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Old 05-03-2012, 12:45 AM   #1
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just English dubs only?

Not that I'm biased or anything, I just prefer my ears to not bleed.
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As usual with Atlus games, expect solely an english dub unless otherwise stated in an official press release.

Atlus usually never includes dual audio in their games anyway, so there's a 99.99% change that it is not happening.
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Atlus released King of Fighters XIII with its' original japanese dubs. So I was only hoping since it's another fighter.
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As usual with Atlus games, expect solely an english dub unless otherwise stated in an official press release.

Atlus usually never includes dual audio in their games anyway, so there's a 99.99% change that it is not happening.
I wouldn't rule it out. Blazblue had dual audio tracks in the game, so I don't see why not for this game (Keeping in mind that I'm under the assumption this is in Arc System Works hands).

The best answer that we're going to get is directly from Atlus themselves. If you're reading this, I'm crossing my fingers for dual language tracks.

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Considering this is game developed by Arc System Works, and because it's going to be released internationally, I can bet that the game will have dual audio (and even international text options!).

I'll probably be using English the most though since the only characters that I really like the Japanese voices for are Yu's and Chie's.
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Crossing my fingers as well. It's pretty standard fare for fighters, no?
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I just prefer my ears to not bleed.
Geez man, that sucks. Does it only happen when you hear people speaking English? What language do people usually speak to you in?
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The image that conjured was priceless. Thank you very much for brightening my day, good sir!
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There will be duel audio.























See what I did there?
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just English dubs only?

Not that I'm biased or anything, I just prefer my ears to not bleed.
Then turn the voices off, every Persona game now has that (3, 4) this one is no exception. I really don't get it... my native language isn't english and I don't complain about it... but I have an ear to tell if a dub is bad or good... and the Persona games have good dub. I mean, there are professionals doing voices in the game: Johnny Yong Bosch (considering that he'll come back), Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman, Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, etc. so don't complain when a compay is trying their best, because believe me, I know they are trying hard like bringing the original cast (in which two are unavailable... correct that word please) as I've seen, I think they got Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman and Laura Bailey back for Arena... I hope they bring the rest back... I'm really hoping for it.
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Then turn the voices off, every Persona game now has that (3, 4) this one is no exception.
"Instead of improving this feature, lets just ignore/remove it"

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I really don't get it... my native language isn't english and I don't complain about it... but I have an ear to tell if a dub is bad or good... and the Persona games have good dub. I mean, there are professionals doing voices in the game: Johnny Yong Bosch (considering that he'll come back), Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman, Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, etc. so don't complain when a compay is trying their best, because believe me, I know they are trying hard like bringing the original cast (in which two are unavailable... correct that word please) as I've seen, I think they got Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman and Laura Bailey back for Arena... I hope they bring the rest back... I'm really hoping for it.
Well. I disagree.

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There will be duel audio.


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Cracking jokes is cool and all, but perhaps Atlus could make an official comment on this and close the thread in a timely manner?

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Geez man, that sucks. Does it only happen when you hear people speaking English? What language do people usually speak to you in?
Not literally, metaphorically. Mostly Earth languages, I understand more than one.

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I can only hope.

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Then turn the voices off, every Persona game now has that (3, 4) this one is no exception. I really don't get it... my native language isn't english and I don't complain about it... but I have an ear to tell if a dub is bad or good... and the Persona games have good dub. I mean, there are professionals doing voices in the game: Johnny Yong Bosch (considering that he'll come back), Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman, Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, etc. so don't complain when a compay is trying their best, because believe me, I know they are trying hard like bringing the original cast (in which two are unavailable... correct that word please) as I've seen, I think they got Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman and Laura Bailey back for Arena... I hope they bring the rest back... I'm really hoping for it.
Your post was quite the tear jerker. Truly heartfelt, my dear poet.

It was just a question, a simple "NO" or "YES" would have been just fine. I just wanted to hear from the horse's mouth whether or not they decided to keep the japanese voice-over.
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Cracking jokes is cool and all, but perhaps Atlus could make an official comment on this and close the thread in a timely manner?
When we have an official answer, you'll get an official answer, and it won't be from me.

Minus the last part of that sentence, that's the same response that I get when I ask about the topic. You can refer back to any of the past dual audio topics, because the response is the same. We always try for dual audio, but there are a number of things that can/do prevent it from happening.
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We always try for dual audio,
That's good to know. We appreciate the hard work you guys have done.
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Not literally, metaphorically. Mostly Earth languages, I understand more than one.

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Then turn the voices off, every Persona game now has that (3, 4) this one is no exception. I really don't get it... my native language isn't english and I don't complain about it... but I have an ear to tell if a dub is bad or good... and the Persona games have good dub. I mean, there are professionals doing voices in the game: Johnny Yong Bosch (considering that he'll come back), Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman, Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, etc. so don't complain when a compay is trying their best, because believe me, I know they are trying hard like bringing the original cast (in which two are unavailable... correct that word please) as I've seen, I think they got Yuri Lowenthal, Karen Strassman and Laura Bailey back for Arena... I hope they bring the rest back... I'm really hoping for it.
Your post was quite the tear jerker. Truly heartfelt, my dear poet.

It was just a question, a simple "NO" or "YES" would have been just fine. I just wanted to hear from the horse's mouth whether or not they decided to keep the japanese voice-over.
Then the answer is: There is a possibility that it won't, if so... take it like a man D:<........... you know what I mean, just don't make such a ruckus about it. I like Dual audio of course... sometimes I switch from english to japanese in BlazBlue... just for fun, but I keep it in english. In any case, don't be one of those people that will skip a game because of something so trivial --or whatever you refer it-- as english voices.
Manly Biceps (cool username, bro) said, they are trying but there are a few things that get in their way. Remember, Atlus isn't Arc System Works or Aksys, so it isn't that simple as putting the Dual audio.
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Remember, Atlus isn't Arc System Works or Aksys, so it isn't that simple as putting the Dual audio.
The game is being developed by Arc System Works with the direction of Atlus.
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The game is being developed by Arc System Works with the direction of Atlus.
It's been stated that Arc is only developing the actual battling portion, so the rest of it may very well be ATLUS. We don't know for sure.
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Remember, Atlus isn't Arc System Works or Aksys, so it isn't that simple as putting the Dual audio.
The game is being developed by Arc System Works with the direction of Atlus.
It's been stated that Arc is only developing the actual battling portion, so the rest of it may very well be ATLUS. We don't know for sure.
Yeah. Even though Arcsys is making the gameplay, Persona belongs to Atlus and so it's still different to add Dual audio like in BlazBlue.
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Arc System Works is good at making some of their games Dual Audio, granted Guilty Gear did not have it but Guilty Gear 2 did and the english voices sucked ... well some did. Persona on the other hand is a different story, you will see Dual Audio in P4:Arena.
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I'm of the opinion that Atlus USA is in some way contractually obligated to use a dub-only track. Even in games where there's technically space to leave a dual-audio option (e.g. Catherine, being all up in that Blu-Ray and all), we still get only the one language. The only exception that comes to mind is Heat from DDS2.

And, no, a non-MegaTen game won't count as a counterexample.

So, I wholly expect this game to also show up with English-only audio. If it turns out otherwise, then I'll throw my current theory out. Simple as that.
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I'm of the opinion that Atlus USA is in some way contractually obligated to use a dub-only track. Even in games where there's technically space to leave a dual-audio option (e.g. Catherine, being all up in that Blu-Ray and all), we still get only the one language. The only exception that comes to mind is Heat from DDS2.

And, no, a non-MegaTen game won't count as a counterexample.

So, I wholly expect this game to also show up with English-only audio. If it turns out otherwise, then I'll throw my current theory out. Simple as that.
I doubt they're contractually-obligated; they've already stated they always try to, but there are multiple reasons (technical as well as cost-effective) why they can't.
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It basically drops down to the guys in charge.

If they say yes to it, then we'll get it. If they say no, we won't. The rest of the staff doesn't find out until the big man says so, and until that point they're as in the dark as the rest of us.

Though in my opinion, odds are they take into account everything, including profit estimation from both sides. If they find themselves willing to take less profits just to add some dual audio for the hell of it, they'll do it. This however, will be dependent on total profits from the games up til now, either from this fiscal year or from the last couple of them. I'm not a business major, but I like reading the waters and giving my 2 cents on the matter from a business perspective.
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It basically drops down to the guys in charge.

If they say yes to it, then we'll get it. If they say no, we won't. The rest of the staff doesn't find out until the big man says so, and until that point they're as in the dark as the rest of us.

Though in my opinion, odds are they take into account everything, including profit estimation from both sides. If they find themselves willing to take less profits just to add some dual audio for the hell of it, they'll do it. This however, will be dependent on total profits from the games up til now, either from this fiscal year or from the last couple of them. I'm not a business major, but I like reading the waters and giving my 2 cents on the matter from a business perspective.
Hopefully it wouldn't be "for the hell of it" but instead to please a group within their fanbase, thus building a more amicable relationship with their customers.

As an example, Atlus themselves threw in a free preorder artbook for Persona 4. Printing those had to come out of somebody's pocket.

Also my 2 cents from a business perspective.
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Then turn the voices off, every Persona game now has that (3, 4) this one is no exception.
"Instead of improving this feature, lets just ignore/remove it"

Cool solution.
Improving? Haha. Sure, if propagating ignorance is considered improvement.

Also, the OP's "Not biased" comment is pretty dang hilarious.
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I hope one day to see a wheel they spin that decides whether or not a game gets dual audio.
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If they say yes to it, then we'll get it. If they say no, we won't. The rest of the staff doesn't find out until the big man says so, and until that point they're as in the dark as the rest of us.

Though in my opinion, odds are they take into account everything, including profit estimation from both sides. If they find themselves willing to take less profits just to add some dual audio for the hell of it, they'll do it. This however, will be dependent on total profits from the games up til now, either from this fiscal year or from the last couple of them. I'm not a business major, but I like reading the waters and giving my 2 cents on the matter from a business perspective.
Hopefully it wouldn't be "for the hell of it" but instead to please a group within their fanbase, thus building a more amicable relationship with their customers.

As an example, Atlus themselves threw in a free preorder artbook for Persona 4. Printing those had to come out of somebody's pocket.

Also my 2 cents from a business perspective.
An artbook, however, is much easier to deal with than programming an entirely new menu option. They have graphic designers on their team, I'd imagine, whereas they've stated before they don't do a lot of programming here. Coding an entirely new menu option to switch voices is tough; one mistake could screw up something completely unrelated.
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They actually have a dedicated Dartboard.



They are also next to a REALLY great donut shack.

You just have to think about the core details:

How much would it cost to have the game programmed to have english and japanese audio coded into it?

Will the games' sales suffer if dual audio was not included? Would losses surpass the cost to implement?

Wouldn't you rather have a free donut and some coffee right now?

Then you'll know how Atlus prepares.
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It basically drops down to the guys in charge.

If they say yes to it, then we'll get it. If they say no, we won't. The rest of the staff doesn't find out until the big man says so, and until that point they're as in the dark as the rest of us.

Though in my opinion, odds are they take into account everything, including profit estimation from both sides. If they find themselves willing to take less profits just to add some dual audio for the hell of it, they'll do it. This however, will be dependent on total profits from the games up til now, either from this fiscal year or from the last couple of them. I'm not a business major, but I like reading the waters and giving my 2 cents on the matter from a business perspective.
Hopefully it wouldn't be "for the hell of it" but instead to please a group within their fanbase, thus building a more amicable relationship with their customers.

As an example, Atlus themselves threw in a free preorder artbook for Persona 4. Printing those had to come out of somebody's pocket.

Also my 2 cents from a business perspective.
An artbook, however, is much easier to deal with than programming an entirely new menu option. They have graphic designers on their team, I'd imagine, whereas they've stated before they don't do a lot of programming here. Coding an entirely new menu option to switch voices is tough; one mistake could screw up something completely unrelated.
It was simply an example. Both of these things cost money, the artbook and dual audio. The point was that there's a reason for doing them besides money. One could argue that customer satisfaction eventually leads to money though.

Not sure if they have graphic designers on staff, but they definitely didn't create the artwork in the book if that's what you're implying. It was the guys in Japan. Dual audio, too, would have to be programmed by the guys in Japan.

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Improving? Haha. Sure, if propagating ignorance is considered improvement.

Also, the OP's "Not biased" comment is pretty dang hilarious.
Including dual audio is propagating ignorance? How exactly?
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@Blacksmoke,

I am dumbfounded by this as well...
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