The Y's Series: Any or All (Y's spoken as ee's) (PS2 or DS)

[Dimon]

I know that Falcom owns this series, but the only ones we ever got in the USA was a watered down version of YsIII: Wanderers from Ys in the 1990's, and Ys: The Ark of Naphiston (which i still consider a very good game) in 2003. I was wondering if there was a way that these games could be made by Atlus. Im referring to any not released here previously, although the fire version of YsIII would be nice (REMIX version). The problem being that Konami has it's grip on the Y's series, and there sitting on it. I know that the 1st Y's game was actually on PC, but the rest have been redone several times, including the complete version and the Blue Earth water Complete version in Japan. Now i would like to see some of the older releases here, which we never seen them before.

FYI: If you are not familiar with this game series, don't worry, not many people are. Let me explain the premises of the game series. Basically, the series is an ongoing adventure of Adell the Red (named for his long red hair). Because of the limited releases here, many of the friends he met in Ys: TAON went over the heads of most people who played the game. For example, the pirate was from a previous game, and so was the Romainus fleet hunting Adell. Strangely enough, most Y's games start with Adell falling off a boat, whether it be flying or floating. Gameplay Type: Hack and slash type, classic console type, similiar to some early SNES games, like Brainlord. The neat thing about this series is each game builds on the previous ones. For example, some references from the previous game may appear in the second game in the series. It is not like FF where each game has a seperate hero and seperate system. Most of the Y's fighting system is similiar to the previous one. There are differences among the games, as Adell learns new ways to make armor and such. Adell is also like Indiana Jones with a sword. He is an archeologist of the times. In the last game, for example, the boss was a super-computer. He had to destroy it before it eradicated the lifeforms on the planet because there evolutionary track was different than the older civilization. Technically, The Ark of Naphiston is just a big fancy computer that controlled the whole planets environment, until this guys messes with the programming of it...

Well, that is the basics of the game series....I just wish atlus would bring it over to North America, and then eventually to our European friends.

[Magnvs]

Hi! ^^ It's not Y's, it's Ys, it's better to avoid spreading that old misconception :P Secondly, please put spoilers warning, since you revealed some plot infos that could potentially ruin some parts of the games to those who had never played them ;)

Returning IT, there are currently more Ys available in english than one could suspect: Ys Books 1 and 2 for the Usa Turbo cd, Ys3 for Snes\Genesis, Ys6 for Ps2\Psp (Ys strategy for Ds, localized in Europe, has only the setting in common with the main series, being an rts) and, passing to fantranslations, Ys 1&2 Complete for Pc (the best versions of the original Ys saga to date) and Ys Oath in Felghana (an incredibly good remake of Ys3 who redefines many key plot and gameplay elements) for Pc, not to mention Ys4 (Sfamicom version)'s english patch and Ys5's, which is currently progressing. In due time, a patch for Ys Origins (an even more action-packed prequel to the series) will probably be made.

Moreover, the first Ys came to Win Pc only after releases for Pc88, Pc98, Msx2, Famicom, FM Towns and Sharp (not to mention the remake for Saturn, the two remakes for cellphones and the one for Ps2), and the Pc release, the Complete version (which contains some minor upgrades to the previous Pc release, Ys Eternal) is pretty old nowadays, even forgetting that Atlus USA (as far as I know) does not deal in the Pc game market nor intends to, while the Ps2 one (Ys1-2 Eternal by Taito) has been heavily criticized (I have never played it, though, since it seems inferior to the Pc Complete versions).

Among the Ps2 Ys remakes by Taito, the most peculiar imho is Ys3, remade in the same side-scrolling perspective of the original Ys 3 (opposed to the isometric view of Oath in Felghana, the Pc remake) with nice graphics and beautiful sprites.

As a sidenote, I advise anyone to avoid the Ys 1\2 remakes for Nintendo Ds: they are cheap rip-offs of the Pc Complete versions, with a crappy polygonal engine in place of the beautiful 2d original. Not too surprising, since they were made by Interchannel Holon, but still disappointing since they could have simply taken Pc's Ys Complete without bothering to ruin it.

[RayFoxSith]

This is still not stopping me from getting them. I've never played the first two and have been wanting to get Ark of Napishtum for a long time. I'm not sure if Atlus could localize those, though.

[DamageCity]

I prefer to call it Why's.

[Magnvs]

This is still not stopping me from getting them. I've never played the first two and have been wanting to get Ark of Napishtum for a long time. I'm not sure if Atlus could localize those, though.
If you want to play Ys1-2 (and it's only right to do so, they are awesome even today ^^), why not buy the Pc remakes (the requirements are laughable) and play them with the english patch?

They are by far the best versions available, and probably will cost you less than the 2 Ds games (which are sold as two games AND at an all-but-budget price :P) from any import site. If you are interested, you can buy a copy of Ys 1-2 Complete at Himeya Shop, but I am sure you can find it at lower prices in other import stores ^^

Regarding Ys6 the Ark of Napishtim, as you probably know it has been localized by Konami for both Ps2 and Psp, so it shouldn't be a problem ;)

[RayFoxSith]

Yeah I knew Napishtum was already released here. I remember playing 3 or 5 a while back (it was the one where Adol and his friend met a fortune teller) and I didn't really enjoy it. Maybe the side scrolling was throwing me off or something.

I prefer to call it Why's.

[Ticci]

Returning IT, there are currently more Ys available in english than one could suspect: Ys Books 1 and 2 for the Usa Turbo cd, Ys3 for Snes\Genesis, Ys6 for Ps2\Psp (Ys strategy for Ds, localized in Europe, has only the setting in common with the main series, being an rts) and, passing to fantranslations, Ys 1&2 Complete for Pc (the best versions of the original Ys saga to date) and Ys Oath in Felghana (an incredibly good remake of Ys3 who redefines many key plot and gameplay elements) for Pc, not to mention Ys4 (Sfamicom version)'s english patch and Ys5's, which is currently progressing. In due time, a patch for Ys Origins (an even more action-packed prequel to the series) will probably be made.

Moreover, the first Ys came to Win Pc only after releases for Pc88, Pc98, Msx2, Famicom, FM Towns and Sharp (not to mention the remake for Saturn, the two remakes for cellphones and the one for Ps2), and the Pc release, the Complete version (which contains some minor upgrades to the previous Pc release, Ys Eternal) is pretty old nowadays, even forgetting that Atlus USA (as far as I know) does not deal in the Pc game market nor intends to, while the Ps2 one (Ys1-2 Eternal by Taito) has been heavily criticized (I have never played it, though, since it seems inferior to the Pc Complete versions).

Among the Ps2 Ys remakes by Taito, the most peculiar imho is Ys3, remade in the same side-scrolling perspective of the original Ys 3 (opposed to the isometric view of Oath in Felghana, the Pc remake) with nice graphics and beautiful sprites.

As a sidenote, I advise anyone to avoid the Ys 1\2 remakes for Nintendo Ds: they are cheap rip-offs of the Pc Complete versions, with a crappy polygonal engine in place of the beautiful 2d original. Not too surprising, since they were made by Interchannel Holon, but still disappointing since they could have simply taken Pc's Ys Complete without bothering to ruin it.

Hi Magnvs ^^
Could you please explain your opinion about Wanderers from Ys?I read it's kinda different from the other games of the series,so I wanted a deeper analysis ^^
Anyway,I followed your suggestion and I'm really enjoying Napishtim ^^

[>:-(]

Buy Ys 1 and 2 on PC + use English Patch

Buy Ys: The Oath of Felgahana + use English Patch

Use emulator to play translated version of Ys 4.

Wait for Ys 5 translation patch.

Buy and play Ys 6: the Ark of Napishtim on PS2

Wait for Ys: Origins translation patch.

[pancakesandsex]

Ys VI is the only one worth playing on ps2.

the other "remakes" are low budget messes and not developed by falcom (taito did them) They are generally regarded as being quite poor.

The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par

PC is the best place to experience the series, unfortunately only in japanese.

Beware the translation patches, the author is a pretentious dick and wants payment for a fan translation, and has gone so far as to threaten to put, or actually add malware into a leaked version of his felghana patch.

[Master Zombots]

The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par Why is that? Did they change the story?

[Sanctine]

The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par

I heard Ys: Strategy was incredibly bad, so I didn't import it. I probably will one day, for curiosity's sake.

[>:-(]

I heard Ys: Strategy was incredibly bad, so I didn't import it. I probably will one day, for curiosity's sake.

The game was released in english.

[Sanctine]

The game was released in english.

Uhh... I'm aware. I wouldn't buy an RPG in a language I can't understand.

I was planning on importing it from Europe, but never did.

[>:-(]

Uhh... I'm aware. I wouldn't buy an RPG in a language I can't understand.

I was planning on importing it from Europe, but never did.

Okay well you never know, on the other hand every time I read someone that played the game says Ys Tactics sucks, so yeah better not buy it as it was not even developed by Falcom. Ys Tactics only as the name to it, but beside that it is not ys at all.

[Ticci]

The game was released in english.

Uhh... I'm aware. I wouldn't buy an RPG in a language I can't understand.

I was planning on importing it from Europe, but never did.

Trust me,I'm from Italy and I actually played the game.Don't buy it.Teerible graphics,ridicolous plot and horrible gameplay.Buy it only if you wish to make your head explode :)

[pancakesandsex]

The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par Why is that? Did they change the story?

Story has nothing to do with it, its just YS 1-2, the gameplay is supposed to be awful in comparison.

[Sanctine]

Trust me,I'm from Italy and I actually played the game.Don't buy it.Teerible graphics,ridicolous plot and horrible gameplay.Buy it only if you wish to make your head explode :)

Thanks for the advice, but I've got to play a game for myself. Oftentimes I'll love something everyone hates.

I heard the music was excellent.

[Ticci]

Trust me,I'm from Italy and I actually played the game.Don't buy it.Teerible graphics,ridicolous plot and horrible gameplay.Buy it only if you wish to make your head explode :)

Thanks for the advice, but I've got to play a game for myself. Oftentimes I'll love something everyone hates.

I heard the music was excellent.

Yeah sure,testing something is always the right choice ^^

[Magnvs]

Hi Magnvs ^^
Could you please explain your opinion about Wanderers from Ys?I read it's kinda different from the other games of the series,so I wanted a deeper analysis ^^
Anyway,I followed your suggestion and I'm really enjoying Napishtim ^^
Hi! ^^ It's a pleasure to see another JCFC member here on the Atlus board XD

Anyway, the first versions of Ys3 (aside from only-jap systems, the Famicom, TurboGrafx Super Nes and Genesis releases, the first localized by fan translation and the others brought to the USA by various publishers) broke from the series'tradition by changing to side-scrolling view (much to the fans'contempt, as for Zelda 2). This move was deeply criticized, and Ys3 was considered by some the worst of the series. Not surprisingly, the Ys brand reverted to its old ways with the two versions of Ys4 (for Pc Engine and Super Famicom).

The Ps2 version was probably the best among the cheap Taito Ys remakes, sporting the same side scrolling progression found in the original game, but with beautiful sprites and a surprisingly decent gameplay (at last compared to the many issues found in the other Taito remakes XD).

The true gem, however, is Ys Oath in Felghana, a Pc Falcom remake of Ys3 that feels like a complete overhaul of the original: the side scrolling view was abandoned, adopting an isometric perspective, and the graphic is fabulous, as well as the gameplay, a modified and more action-oriented version of Ys6'Pc version.
Even the dialogues were rewritten in order to have a more complete and realistic feeling, adding some scenes and references to the saga (remember that in the Ys timeline Ys3 is the sequel of Ys4, which in turn starts after Ys2) and, along with Ys1&2 Complete, it's a must for any Ys fan out there ^^



I heard Ys: Strategy was incredibly bad, so I didn't import it. I probably will one day, for curiosity's sake.
Well, the graphics are crap-tastic and the gameplay is totally insane (the heroes'speed or their strenght compared to the normal troops, for instance), but Ys Strategy manages to be interesting if you are into the Ys Setting (read: Ys fanboy XD): the canon Ys games don't do much to develop the geopolitical scenario of that alternative pre-known-history Europe, while YsS contains a great deal of informations and dialogues that can be rather valuable in order to understand Adol's world.

p.s. I totally support your "first play, then judge" policy :wink:
The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par Why is that? Did they change the story?
Ds'Ys 1 and 2 are Interchannel - Holon's rip offs of the Pc Complete versions, and they suffer from bad graphic, somewhat worse controls and a general poor feeling: given their unfriendly price, you would do better to import Ys1&2 Complete for Pc and apply the english patch ^^

[Ticci]

Hi! ^^ It's a pleasure to see another JCFC member here on the Atlus board XD

Anyway, the first versions of Ys3 (aside from only-jap systems, the Famicom, TurboGrafx Super Nes and Genesis releases, the first localized by fan translation and the others brought to the USA by various publishers) broke from the series'tradition by changing to side-scrolling view (much to the fans'contempt, as for Zelda 2). This move was deeply criticized, and Ys3 was considered by some the worst of the series. Not surprisingly, the Ys brand reverted to its old ways with the two versions of Ys4 (for Pc Engine and Super Famicom).

The Ps2 version was probably the best among the cheap Taito Ys remakes, sporting the same side scrolling progression found in the original game, but with beautiful sprites and a surprisingly decent gameplay (at last compared to the many issues found in the other Taito remakes XD).

The true gem, however, is Ys Oath in Felghana, a Pc Falcom remake of Ys3 that feels like a complete overhaul of the original: the side scrolling view was abandoned, adopting an isometric perspective, and the graphic is fabulous, as well as the gameplay, a modified and more action-oriented version of Ys6'Pc version.
Even the dialogues were rewritten in order to have a more complete and realistic feeling, adding some scenes and references to the saga (remember that in the Ys timeline Ys3 is the sequel of Ys4, which in turn starts after Ys2) and, along with Ys1&2 Complete, it's a must for any Ys fan out there ^^



I heard Ys: Strategy was incredibly bad, so I didn't import it. I probably will one day, for curiosity's sake.
Well, the graphics are crap-tastic and the gameplay is totally insane (the heroes'speed or their strenght compared to the normal troops, for instance), but Ys Strategy manages to be interesting if you are into the Ys Setting (read: Ys fanboy XD): the canon Ys games don't do much to develop the geopolitical scenario of that alternative pre-known-history Europe, while YsS contains a great deal of informations and dialogues that can be rather valuable in order to understand Adol's world.

p.s. I totally support your "first play, then judge" policy :wink:
The DS ones are also supposed to be incredibly sub par Why is that? Did they change the story?
Ds'Ys 1 and 2 are Interchannel - Holon's rip offs of the Pc Complete versions, and they suffer from bad graphic, somewhat worse controls and a general poor feeling: given their unfriendly price, you would do better to import Ys1&2 Complete for Pc and apply the english patch ^^

Well,I would dare to say it's my pleasure,I think I should bow my head in this board as well ^^
Anyway,I read many reviews 'bout this Oath in Felghana and it seems really interesting.Maybe I should pick it up someday.OiF aside,I'm really enjoying Napishtim (as I said before) and I think I have a chance to became a Ys fanboy XD


Ah...Thanks for the info^^

[Haruna]

I don't know if Atlus USA has the means to, but I'd love to see Gurumin, Ys: The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin get PS2 versions. I'm sure Falcom would do it themselves if they had PS2 dev kits(at the time they started getting into PSP, I don't think Sony was releasing PS2 kits as the PS3 was out.)

[Futomimi]

I don't know if Atlus USA has the means to, but I'd love to see Gurumin, Ys: The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin get PS2 versions. I'm sure Falcom would do it themselves if they had PS2 dev kits(at the time they started getting into PSP, I don't think Sony was releasing PS2 kits as the PS3 was out.)

No, Atlus USA doesn't port, they just localize.

[Haruna]

No, Atlus USA doesn't port, they just localize.

Figured. But just for a moment, I figured I could dream...

[Hitoshura]

I could care less about PS2 versions, I'd just be happy with YsF and YsO getting PC localizations. PS2 versions would have to downgrade YsF and YsO IMO.

[Overdrive]

All of this information is courtesy of Gamespot, search term, "Ys". If a game doesn't say "Came out in Japan" then it came out in North America, or location is unknown. Again these sources are from Gamespot. The reason why I'm posting this is because I've noticed numerous mistakes, so I decided to post this up. And it's not pronounced ee's. It's pronounced "Ease". And what gets me a lot is the people who call it by the letters, Y - S. It's pronounced "Ease".

DS Titles:

Ys Strategy came out in Japan, March 23, 2006.
Ys DS came out in Japan, March 20, 2008.
Ys II DS came out in Japan, March 20, 2008.
Legacy of Ys: Books I and II is coming out for the DS on February 10, 2009.

Mobile Titles:

Ys Book I: The Vanished Omens came out in Japan, April 12, 2005.
Ys came out in Japan on March 25,2005.
Ys: The Oath of Felghana came out in Japan, December 25, 2005.
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim is coming out in Japan, TBA.
Ys IV: Mask of the Sun is coming out in Japan, TBA.

MSX Titles:

Ys II came out in Japan, 1988.
Ys Book I and II came out in Japan in 1991.

Nintendo Entertainment System Titles:

Ys came out in Japan, August 22, 1988.
Ys II came out in Japan, May 25, 1990.

PC Titles:

Ys Eternal came out in Japan, 1988.
Ys: The Oath of Felghana came out in Japan, June 2005.
Ys Origin came out in Japan, December 21, 2006.
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim was cancelled.

Playstation 2 Titles:

Ys I and II: Eternal Story came out on August 7, 2003.
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim came out on February 25, 2005.
Ys IV: The Mask of the Sun - A New Theory came out in Japan, May 26, 2005.

Playstation Portable Titles:

Ys: The Ark of Napishtim came out on February 28, 2006.

Sega Genesis Titles:

Ys Book I and II came out in Japan, 1991.

Sega Master System Titles:

Ys: The Vanished Omens came out in Japan, October 15, 1988.

Super Nintendo Titles:

Ys Book I and II came out in Japan, 1991.
Ys IV: The Mask of the Sun came out in Japan, November 19, 1993.
Ys V Expert came out in Japan, March 22, 1996.

Turbografx-16 / Turbo Duo:

Ys Book I and II, 1989.
Ys III: Wanderers from Ys, 1991.
Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys came out in Japan, December 22, 1993.

Wii Virtual Console:

Ys Book I and II, August 25, 2008.

X68000 Titles:

Ys came out in Japan, 1988.
Ys II came out in Japan, date unknown.

[System_Error]

I like when people call it Y-S. Easier to find.

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