Most Annoying Boss

[Shintai]

Now I havent beaten this game yet, but Iam think pretty far. Anyways, what is the most annoying boss for you? So far for me, it has to be the guardian on the 110th floor. I felt like flinging my controller across the room. Seriously, it has sexy dance which charms the whole party, AND it has that stupid move where it creates a barrier that counter when you hit him. Then to top it off, hes immune to every element but ice. The only sttrategy that actually worked for this guy, at least for me was to ahve the main character fight alone, use Kusi Mitama since he negates wind attacks and to just hit him with regular attacks till he dies. Seriously Atlus, WTF!?

[RayFoxSith]

Sleeping Table.

[Saishu]

I used Cadenza for all of the status changing bosses. It has always worked out great.

Have Orpheus + Asparas when you start out and use Cadenza first turn, then switch to whatever other Persona you want to use.

[Shintai]

I used Cadenza for all of the status changing bosses. It has always worked out great.

Have Orpheus + Asparas when you start out and use Cadenza first turn, then switch to whatever other Persona you want to use.
Still doesnt work, if the main character gets charmed, which is very possible, you cant do anything, you have to get lucky enough not to get charmed with Sexy Dance, and even if main character never gets charmed, the other characters will and most of the characters have healing spells, and they WILL heal the guardian. >_<

Thats why I think my strategy works best, well at least I havent seen a better one. I mean when you go solo with a persona (kusi mitama) that doesnt have healing spells, he wont do anything, which is much better than hitting your own dudes and healing the enemy.

[Saishu]

I've been really lucky in this game. That was the first thing I noticed when I went to GameFAQs' message board after I first got P3. I've had a lot of good experiences with games based on luck.

I've only died once on this game to a boss. All of the other times I've died were because of Monad or regular enemy encounters.

[Nosaji]

The reaper... My advice bring plenty of somas and precious eggs cuz it's gonna take awhile

[Saishu]

That boss is really easy if you equip your party with the accessories to null their element weaknesses. (Surt, Thor, Abaddon, etc. heart items)

Death isn't smart enough to realize when his elemental attacks are useless.

[Shintai]

That boss is really easy if you equip your party with the accessories to null their element weaknesses. (Surt, Thor, Abaddon, etc. heart items)

Death isn't smart enough to realize when his elemental attacks are useless.No enemy is smart enough to realize when their spells dont work.

[Saishu]

Yeah, but Death is the only enemy that has lived long enough for me to notice.

[Inzaghi]

No enemy is smart enough to realize when their spells dont work.

Well, enemies that have the Break skills will definitely use it to get around your party's elemental resistances. But other than that, yeah, they're not too bright.

[Thunder-Slash]

Sleeping Table.

I second this... no other boss in the game has made me ignore Tartarus for a whole month...

[tross]

I hated the 3rd last floor boss, which I believe was a cross. It took a ton of planning to beat, and I had to rework my strategy several times. I managed to beat it with the ladies, and using deathbound. I had Yukari and Aigis on heal/support, and I just let Mitsuru act freely except when I needed to play defensively. If my party was generally low on health, I would need an extra healer to heal/support. I barely managed to beat this boss with all party members standing, even after all that planning.

[Juanblue85]

Well let me see which one gave me the hardest time hmm I could say the dancer that is green and uses wind attacks and charm it sure gave me a hard time Sleeping Table counts too I died a few times there I got lucky the third time.

[Sseklebeast]

That table boss is the only one I had a little trouble on! Other than that I pretty much ate em for breakfast...hisssss

[Shintai]

Well let me see which one game me the hardest time hmm I could say the dancer that is green and uses wind attacks and charm it sure gave me a hard time Sleeping Table counts too I died a few times there I got lucky the third time.Thats the one I was talking about, the one who uses Sexy Dance(charms the whole party) and uses wind attacks.

[Juanblue85]

Well let me see which one game me the hardest time hmm I could say the dancer that is green and uses wind attacks and charm it sure gave me a hard time Sleeping Table counts too I died a few times there I got lucky the third time.Thats the one I was talking about, the one who uses Sexy Dance(charms the whole party) and uses wind attacks.

OK I just checked my Strategy Guide and the name of the boss is Natural Dancer.

[digi.amuro]

Hidden Optional boss... I got auto-PWN't twice. I was gonna try the strategy for beating her, but by the time I'd looked it up, I was too close to the end to get all the necessary elements together to fight her, so...yeah >_>

[EvilHero]

I second on the Sleeping Table, it makes me not want to go into tartarus.

At the same time, I can't seem to beat Fortune and Strength (October's full moon.) I was so close to killing Fortune, then it dropped the really obscure wheel that killed my main character. I flung my controller across the room, 45 minutes down the drain.

What did you guys do against Sleeping Table and Fortune/Strength?

Edit:
Just beat Sleeping table, quite easily I might add. Used magic mirrors and hoped to reflect Maragidyne, just used a Soma on the party whenever he used Megidola. Set everyone on Full Assault and hoped for the best.

Almost lost at the end, missed on the killing blow three times in a row, wow was that frusterating.

[kufufu]

The World Balance battle made me frustrated for a while with its constant Megidolaon spamming towards the end.

[EvilHero]

Stuck on the 3 hell knights now. I thought I had the fight in the bag after defeating one of them. However, Akihiko thought it would be cool if he started doing absolutely nothing useful (on heal/support he cast -nda spells, no healing and on any other setting he would 'wait') Mitsuru had a similar thing where she would use her useless ice spells when regular attacks were working much better.

I'm so pissed off right now I need to vent on here. I would have had that frusterating battle if the AI hadn't screwed up on me. :evil:

[Futomimi]

Stuck on the 3 hell knights now. I thought I had the fight in the bag after defeating one of them. However, Akihiko thought it would be cool if he started doing absolutely nothing useful (on heal/support he cast -nda spells, no healing and on any other setting he would 'wait') Mitsuru had a similar thing where she would use her useless ice spells when regular attacks were working much better.

I'm so pissed off right now I need to vent on here. I would have had that frusterating battle if the AI hadn't screwed up on me. :evil:

Mitsuru ALWAYS did that for me. Every battle. And she would use Mind Charge against enemies that I could one-shot with a freaking physical attack.

I never really had a problem with the other characters, though. Normally when one of the A.I. uses wait, it's because the enemy used a spell that would cause their attack to be reflected. i.e., if the enemy put up a Physical Reflect spell (I forgot what it's called already), Aigis would always pick "Wait."

[Gen Eric Gui]

You can get around allies casting boneheaded spells by tapping the triangle button to force them to attack for that turn. If you don't want the next person to attack just tap it again to shut it off. Auto-Attack overrides whatever other commands you've given them.

The best way to deal with Strength/Fortune is to get that skill that kills all enemies that are in the "Worried" status(I forget the name.) Even though the boss is immune to the ailment, if he rolls it on the roulette it'll inflict it on him anyway. And the instant death effect form that spell isn't Dark-based, so it still works.

IIRC th only boss I had any significant trouble with was the Sleeping Table.

[mienaikitsune]

For me, it was definitely Strength and Fortune.

For them, I recommend using Cu Chulainn

Ghostly Wail
Mind Charge (or Power Charge. I forget which)
Torrent Shot

[Zeta_Nova]

Emperor and Empress

They shifted weakness. So it was kinda hard to tell. Which the battle lasted like about 10-15 minutes.

[zefie]

For me, it was definitely Strength and Fortune.

For them, I recommend using Cu Chulainn

Ghostly Wail
Mind Charge (or Power Charge. I forget which)
Torrent Shot

Strength and Fortune are pretty easy if you know how to master the Wheel of Fortune... Look on the direct opposite side of the pointer, not at the pointer itself.

As for the Sleeping Table, had him beat in under 5 min. Up your luck with cards, aka your Critical chance, and All-Out attacks will take him out pretty fast.

[Maxine MagicFox]

At this point and time in my game I would definitely have to say "Natural Dancers" was the hardest one for me. Damn thing. It didn't hurt me so much as it hurt everyone else. I had to really level up as well as play around with which attack was the best.

I also don't know if it was just me or what, but if I targeted it and go the useless void stats information Akihiko would continuously try to use a Zio attack on it (which was like 4hp out of it), but if I didn't target the creature he would throw in a few basics and things that did a lot more damage. I even tried to make him conserve SP to see if he would use just a regular attack but then he just kept *Waiting*. I got through the battle without targeting the creature.

[Gen Eric Gui]

You know, if your allies keep using stupid magic, you can tap Triangle to make them attack, and then tap it again during the animation to allow the next character in line to go back to casting spells and things.

A strategy that worked really well for me in Vanilla P3 was charming the Natural Dancers themselves, since they're one of the few bosses that don't null status ailments. Dunno if it works in FES though.

[zefie]

I'll have to go with the obvious and say The Reaper ;). Even with a persona with 99 strength and 99 Endurance, it manages to hit me in the thousands. Although I am only level 65, my persona is level 78, and the max HP IIRC is 999, so I'm starting to question how the hell I'm going to do this..

[Futomimi]

The Reaper is easy with the right Personae.

[Maxine MagicFox]

You know, if your allies keep using stupid magic, you can tap Triangle to make them attack, and then tap it again during the animation to allow the next character in line to go back to casting spells and things.

I NEVER thought of that one! I didn't even think the rush took effect until after your next turn. I'm going to have to practice this one. Thank you for the advice.

I'll call you God though if you can give me advice on how to stop Mitsuru from using Marin Karan all the time. I don't mind if there's a slew of ememies and SOMETIMES it's helpful when there's only one but it's like... STOP USING IT! <_< I'm not much one for status effects anyway.

[Gen Eric Gui]

IIRC, the "Full Assault" (Or whatever it's named) command will cause the character assigned it to just use whatever their most powerful damage-dealing spell is, and ignore healing/status magics. Slap that on her and she SHOULD stop trying to use it.

I honestly don't know why they gave your allies status effect magics. I mean, they're really good spells in a lot of situations(Hence why your allies love casting them so), but they're only REALLY useful paired with their respective boost skill, which none of your allies have. Charm Boost + Sexy Dance is awesome.

[Maxine MagicFox]

... I... just met Sleeping Table o_O; ...

:evil: He made me angry. I knew I was kinda under leveled (I rushed up just to 'get there' and figure out what I needed to do to beat him) but after having only 2hp after he used Megidola was kinda rediculous.

Wish me luck!

[Gen Eric Gui]

Tarunda and Marakukaja are your friends.

[Maxine MagicFox]

I'm not one that uses those sorts of attacks often (I believe in cold, hard damage) but it is noted and I will keep them in mind if I can't beat this bastard my way. I'm still in the process of leveling up, though. I was thinking of going with this team: Yukari (solo healer), Akihiko, and Junpei. I'll probably put them on full assault but I'm not sure. Depends on how quick Yukari is able to heal people.

Uhh... haha, I'm probably derailing this topic a little. Sorry.

[Futomimi]

In general with SMT, buffs are almost unavoidable if you want to make your way through the game efficiently (i.e. without any MORE grinding than it already requires). I'd use the buffs he recommended first, then level up if that doesn't work.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I've found that SMT games in general require very little "grinding" in any sense; pretty much universally I'm leveled up enough just by going through the game. It's all in your planning and effective use of skills rather than whatever EXP level you are at that determines how effective you will beat the next boss.

I mean, hell, Persona 3 actually gives you less and less EXP as you level up, making grinding in the general sense all but impossible until you hit Monad.

And yeah, buffs are basically unavoidable. They're not as universally helpful in P3 as they were in, say, Nocturne, but for a lot of bosses, slapping a Tarunda on them makes them much more manageable(Especially in Hard mode. Intrepid Knight can cast Garudyne for over 560 damage if you doesn't get debuffed, and that's if you RESIST Wind. Tarunda him and Rakukaja yourself and that number drops to a much more survivable 240 or so.)

MOAR DAMAGE isn't the answer in this game, so stop thinking that way if you want to win. Also, let yourself use your Bead Chains. Don't rely on your allies to do all the healing for you. And if you're like so many people and are thinking "I might need them later", you won't. You need them now.

[Maxine MagicFox]

*Nods* Okay. :\ If it's that effective in the game, I suppose I could try it. Just I hate to waste a turn on something that only lasts for about three turns anyway. But, now it's going to kinda bite me in that case since I kinda weeded such skills out of my personae when I could. ^_^ I'll see what I can create, though. In my defense, though, in most other games where people have jumped onto me about refusing to use buffs, I've been able to get through quite fine and easily without them. However, there's no doubting that Persona is a very different game and I'll take the advice.

As for the "saving items for later" mentality. Nah... that one doesn't seem to be with me in this game. I use what I need when I need it if I think it would give me an edge. The constant truth of "I'm the only intelligent non-AI here" and "the game ends when I die, regardless who lives" bares down me constantly. I think I blame Izuna for teaching me how to just use the damn items and stop hoarding them.

[Maxine MagicFox]

So, I ended up dumping my Saki Mitama (or whatever his name is) and made a new one that would give me Matarunda. I couldn't get the other buff you guys recommended. However, I went in with that one and a team of Yukari, Akihiko, and Shiji.

I put the guys on full assault and did nothing myself put use Tarunda and even tried the buff Raku...something (it increases defense). I also wasted about 3 bead chains and 2 balms of lifes. However, you're right *nods* it did make the fight a HELL of a lot easier (actually, one of the easier fights I've had)! :x I'm going to have to change my 'no-buff' mentality with this game, I think. ... ~_^ Only when the bosses are hard asses, though.

[Juanblue85]

umm this is a little off topic but I just learned that Mara maybe be a female. I am still like WTF.

[CSXLoser]

umm this is a little off topic but I just learned that Mara maybe be a female. I am still like WTF. noe hes not. Hes a Demon from Sri lankan buddhism that tempted Buddha with his (hot) daughters.

Anyways, i lost my touch against the wheel of fortune shadow so 2 of my teammates died quickly. Second time was a charm. Got him into Fear Status and critical him to death

[girlkitty]

I never had any problems but my husband spent 2 hours and had nearly finished off the final boss and got hit with Charm and completely healed the boss. He almost broke the controller. I haven't seen him that angry since his save of FF10 got corrupted before his final boss on that game.

[Maxine MagicFox]

In lieu of the fact that Sleeping Table became so much easier when I started using buffs, I'd have to say that Strenght and Fortune have been the most difficult for me thus far. I was TERRIBLE at chosing the right thing with that roulette. I did ace it a little but then got totally pwned when the "upgraded" version came down. I got lucky when I finally managed to get the darn thing berserked. Pfft.

[allie_razakel]

I never had any problems but my husband spent 2 hours and had nearly finished off the final boss and got hit with Charm and completely healed the boss. He almost broke the controller. I haven't seen him that angry since his save of FF10 got corrupted before his final boss on that game.

I got that too. ;_______; Because I was using Metatron and he had Mediarahan. And at that point, I've wasted all my Bead Chain and Somas.

Yes, annoying boss in Persona 3: Last Boss (Avatar Nyx)

The rest are pretty easy. Less annoying.

[Futomimi]

The final boss was pretty much cake for me. I tend to grind a lot, though.

[Saishu]

I just met the secret boss :(

Didn't even see that coming. It would be nice if I could have two turns for every turn.

[allie_razakel]

I just met the secret boss :(

Didn't even see that coming. It would be nice if I could have two turns for every turn.

Death, or Thanatos, right?

[Gen Eric Gui]

The final boss was pretty much cake for me. I tend to grind a lot, though.

The final boss is cake if you figured out how to null out weaknesses. No grinding necessary.

[Saishu]

I just met the secret boss :(

Didn't even see that coming. It would be nice if I could have two turns for every turn.

Death, or Thanatos, right?
No. The one with 20,000 HP.

You know, the last request in the original Persona 3. Don't want to spoil the name.

[Futomimi]

The final boss was pretty much cake for me. I tend to grind a lot, though.

The final boss is cake if you figured out how to null out weaknesses. No grinding necessary.

That too.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I'm currently stuck fighting the 3 Stasis Giants(I forget which floor. Near the end of the game). Does anybody have any tips on kicking their asses. They are the only "bosses" that have given me any real trouble.

[Gen Eric Gui]

They only use Slash attacks. Set Null Slash or Repel Slash and you're set. If you're equipped with a weapon that's Strike or Pierce-type, you can actually go into the battle solo, set it to auto-fight, and the battle will win itself.

Edit: My bad, they can use Double Fangs too, so you might want to stick around in the room to make sure they don't use it on you.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Ah I see. Thanks, I'll definitely give it a try later. Right now though, I'm busy playing Brawl.

Edit 1:Also thanks for the additional advice.

And I just died in Brawl(Boss Rush Mode), so I'll go ahead and switch to Persona 3 now.


Edit 2: And it worked. The hardest battle in the game for me, reduced to nothing more than an "Auto-Fight". :?

[Flußkönig]

I just beat the Sleeping Table on my hard difficulty play-thru.

It ended up being way tougher than I expected, but the revolution skill really ended up saving my ass. Shinjiro (in great condition) was getting critical hits pretty much every time he attacked, so the Sleeping Table ended up going down fairly fast.

[alex azukari]

i found sleeping table easy considering the fact its weak against Ice(or maybe it was fire? dunno XD) i just ended up dying once before i remembered that XD i am currently working on the Empress & Emperor shadows, i am going to try attacking Emperor w/ elements while the others are going after the other one, so atleast one of them is always having to get up and waste its turn, but i still have to worry about LIVING through the Emperor's attacks considering im a tad bit under level....like 6 or so levels to be exact...XD i'd try it today if my ####ing sister would finish watching "Hairspray" for the ####ing THIRD TIME! T_T

[Inzaghi]

The Sleeping Table is a boss encounter waaaay past where you seem to be, Alex. It's not one of the regular table enemies you've encountered in the 2nd block.

[alex azukari]

i konw that its a boss!meh, dont matter, as long as the fuggers dead...still waiting on my damn sister though, how long is that ####ing movie anyway!?!

[Gen Eric Gui]

i found sleeping table easy considering the fact its weak against Ice(or maybe it was fire? dunno XD) i just ended up dying once before i remembered that XD i am currently working on the Empress & Emperor shadows, i am going to try attacking Emperor w/ elements while the others are going after the other one, so atleast one of them is always having to get up and waste its turn, but i still have to worry about LIVING through the Emperor's attacks considering im a tad bit under level....like 6 or so levels to be exact...XD i'd try it today if my ####ing sister would finish watching "Hairspray" for the ####ing THIRD TIME! T_T

No, no. The REAL boss, "Sleeping Table" has no weaknesses to anything. You're thinking of the earlier mini-boss fight against the three weak-to-fire tables. You haven't seen the horror that is Sleeping Table yet.

And why is Emperor even getting attacks in the first place? Emperor and Empress should only get attacks off on maybe the first round. Past that, they should be spending their turns getting up after you know them down, not attacking you.

[alex azukari]

because my attacks miss or i end up forgeting which is weak against element and wich is physical after i attempt to lvl up

[Delition]

For some odd reason, I didn't really have a problem against the Sleeping Tables, but I think that was just due to my main character having a persona that nulled pretty much all of their attacks. I just relegated myself to being the healing bitch throughout the battle and had my allies attack.

I haven't tried running through Monad or going against any of the secret / optional bosses, but nothing was really all that hard my first time through. I did have the whole "play 45 minutes and die against the final boss" thing happen to me, but I just took a break and came back later to beat it.

[Gen Eric Gui]

You can't null out the Sleeping Table's attacks, he uses Megidola.

[Delition]

Most of it's attacks. Megidola didn't do enough damage to me to negate my healing.

[Flußkönig]

For some odd reason, I didn't really have a problem against the Sleeping Tables, but I think that was just due to my main character having a persona that nulled pretty much all of their attacks.


Maybe you are thinking of a different boss, because there is only one Sleeping Table. On hard the Sleeping Table's Megidola was easily killing all of my characters and leaving the main with about 10 hp without casting Tarunda. Media definitely wasn't healing enough hp to survive more than one of those in a row.

[Delition]

Nah, just a typo. Perhaps I was just over-leveled for that boss, then.

[NaoTo]

edit - an Admin warned you about this already. Stop hijacking threads please. -Kakizaki