How many of You Use to Play World of Warcraft?

[pointchiz]

Just curious how many people use to play WoW and got bored to death of it and found Demon's Souls to be far more challenging and innovative?

[m_Sum]

I did. I played WoW for about 2 years, raided 2 times a week. Then I realized I don't like games where I'm forced to co-op. I shut down my account and bought a PS3.

and 2 years of WoW cost me $360+ buying the game. So $400 total!

[Merovingian]

I played WoW way too much, and I was totally addicted for three years.
I'm glad I don't play it anymore.

[Spine-Fist]

I played for a couple weeks in '06. Got bored fast.

[Karkarov]

Well I used to play it, raid leader, helped found a guild, main tanked for 2 years, blah blah blah. Long story short, it isn't worth the effort. Playing WoW is like mowing the grass. Once you get over the first bit of excitement at something new you get bored of the grind.

[HarbingerOfChaos]

All of you guys = Nerds! lol


Just kidding.

Played ten minutes of it. Hated it.
Demon's souls is the first RPG I enjoyed.

[Morrigan Stark]

Never.

[fred]

Played for about a year and a half. Great game loaded with many many not so great personalities. MMO's seem to attract a special kind of hyperactive abusive nerd type and for me that's what made the experience less than what it could have been. If they improved the questing, made them less of a grind with real boss fights and gave real quest rewards then we wouldnt have to be raid slaves which is where the maladjusted psychos really thrive. The pvp is unparalelled. Say what you will about class balance and all that, wow bg's are the most fun you can have with a mouse and keyboard.

[MonkeySlime808]

games i like was final fantasy 11 and 12 sky.

[kaijura]

A college mate wanted to go shower, so I got the opportunity to control her character for like 10 minutes. All I remember is I think it was a raid and what I was supposed to do was spam space bar.

However, I did garner up 4-5 years worth of FF:11.

[Whiteraven_XXVI]

played last year got bored at around lvl 56 as a hunter hehe

[AudaciTy]

Nope, never. I never saw the allure to that game, it looks so boring and tedious to me.

[Hahalo]

Didn't dare to start, cause I was hooked on Ragnarok Online for 5-6years.. farming and selling for cash, guild wars, competition etc etc..

Demon Soul it's more flexible as you don't have a commitment.

[m_Sum]

WoW is sort of evil. I don't blame Blizzard really, but that game feeds on people who are obsessive and/or have an addictive personality. Like myself.

Playing a video game is a safer and cheaper addiction than say booze or drugs. But it's still not a good way to live your life.

And yes once you figure out the game you basically stand around and spam one or two buttons and hope the other 24 people around you are spamming their buttons. The real test is when you have to do something tricky like stand on a ledge (twins boss) and not fall off or stand on an elevator (SSC) and not fall off. It amazed me how many idiots couldn't do it. The SSC elevator is about 15X bigger than the one in DS that you take to get to ED and people would fall off!

Anyway yes, I liked WoW at the time....but I regret putting as much time as I did into it.

[SeikenZ]

Played it for 3 years, rogue and a mage. Stopped after it got too tedious for me (~4 months ago). I always aim for the best gear/items in a game and since I never would have gotten any top-tier with the amount of time I could invest, I just decided to quit.

It annoyed me that you practically need to have no life to have some of those things. And when you do get some, a new patch arrives and everything is obsolete - vicious circle to make you keep playing more and more and more untill you drop dead or regret having ever played it in the first place.

Wholeheartedly agree wit m Sum

[dusted]

I started this game when people talked me into playing it when burning crusade came out. I joined my friends guild when I started my character not knowing I was going to get ganked and camped just because most alliance hated the guild lol. It was all fun for awhile with my poor little bloodelf paladin heal bot but once I started raiding I could only handle doing it for like 4 weeks then quit.

I think the only real fun I got out of this game was the pvp, Arena was great played with some gladiator ranked teams but it seems if you don't play the cookie cutter builds / team your going to lose in the high ratings. That's when I just did battlegrounds and teamed up with some people I did arena with.

I went back to wow to try out wotlk and I liked their quests this time around well at least some of them but was still the same old grind too 80. Arena didn't change much still needed cookie cutter build blah blah blah, battlegrounds was the same except strands of the ancients that one was pretty cool.

Now I stay away from MMO's and just stick to what doesn't require me to dedicate 100% of my free time RPG's and FPS games.

[LewsTherin]

Two of my oldest friends are GM's for WoW, and even with the offer of a free subscription I can't bring myself to play WoW. I find their definition of a 'quest' to be rather comical.

"How did you become a powerful hero/villain"?

-"I slew as much wildlife as I could, and took their organs to an NPC"

[Free-Fall24]

I went to my cousins back in 2005 where he introduced me to Final Fnatasy Online and World of Warcraft.

I wanted to start getting into MMORPG's and got tired of Dungeon Siege 2. So I gave FF a shot and hated it. No PvP and seemed like a huge grind fest. I gave WoW a go and liked being Undead. So I got it and played it for about three years until I noticed the affects of being a WoW addict.

I got Fat.

I quit. Never looked back. I wanted to Raid, couldn't get into Raids. Wanted to PvP. They F'd it up when they introduced Cross Realm BG's. (Feathermoon had the Top PvP'rs)

I realized what a huge waste of money that game was. After three years..

Demon's Souls is the only RPG I've ever felt great accomplishment from when I solo a Boss. But now news of Final Fantasy 14 Online? And being free to PSN? If it has PvP with those outstanding graphics and visuals? ... My life will be in ruin.

[Hawuvajo]

only games that i played for more than 1 year:

MuOnline - 1 year
DotA (Defense of the Ancients, aka. Custom Map of Warcraft III) : 5 years :p (i like demon's souls b/c it is just like DotA, but your "team" is composed by only one player, you.)
but i can tell you, i could incorporate most tactics of survival/attack from DotA to DS ^^

and now, Demon's Souls has taken DotA place at my playtime ^^

[YUR_GRANDMA]

I know this is off topic but only RPG I ever seriously played and had fun on was a korean rpg called 12 sky.

It was amazing, had most of the things other rpg's had at the time but felt a lot more fun. There was a great community, there forums are one of my favourites and at different times of days there were battles between the 3 factions.

They were pretty much king of the hill games but there was quite a lot of teamwork involved. It was really fun.

[m_Sum]

After I quit WoW and bought a PS3, I got my PvP fix by playing Fat Princess. I found it pretty fun. Sort of like a WoW battleground. The fact that very few people have headsets makes it a bit disorganized but sometimes you'll get in a group that knows what they are doing and it's really fun.

It's also fun when both teams are full of noobs and you can solo capture the flag(well princess) while everyone is busy trying to get kills.

[Taychon]

A college mate wanted to go shower, so I got the opportunity to control her character for like 10 minutes. All I remember is I think it was a raid and what I was supposed to do was spam space bar.

However, I did garner up 4-5 years worth of FF:11.

lol not to be an asshole dude but spam spacebar i think your either lying or thats a gross exaggeration. if youve never really played the game dont comment on it like you know what the game is about lol

[TheUnflinching]

I used to play WoW but I got bored with it in 3 years.

[Karkarov]

A college mate wanted to go shower, so I got the opportunity to control her character for like 10 minutes. All I remember is I think it was a raid and what I was supposed to do was spam space bar.

However, I did garner up 4-5 years worth of FF:11.

lol not to be an asshole dude but spam spacebar i think your either lying or thats a gross exaggeration. if youve never really played the game dont comment on it like you know what the game is about lol

I hate to tell you this since you think wow is uh... hard or requires skill... but the top hunter on my server played by targeting a mob and then rolling their mouse wheel over and over because they attached a macro to it that basically did everything for them. I also have seen a video of a range dps dude who does a naxx run in northrend and all he does is literally headbutt his keyboard over and over and his DPS meter placed him in 3rd for his raid.

So yeah, I could believe all he had to do was hit space over and over.

[m_Sum]

A college mate wanted to go shower, so I got the opportunity to control her character for like 10 minutes. All I remember is I think it was a raid and what I was supposed to do was spam space bar.

However, I did garner up 4-5 years worth of FF:11.

lol not to be an asshole dude but spam spacebar i think your either lying or thats a gross exaggeration. if youve never really played the game dont comment on it like you know what the game is about lol

It probably wasn't spacebar, but his point is valid. Many classes can do fine in a raid by spamming a single spell. Resto Shaman and Chain Heal comes to mind. And with macro's a lot of people were set up to spam a single button and it would use the best of 2, 3 or sometimes even 4 attacks. Hunters were know for this.

P.S. this is some of the crap that made WoW lame when you really got into it. Oh and all the dumb asses like us arguing about... :P

[gearsofsera]

not me that you can have for sure,

in my opinion

world of warcraft is for babies(credit card owning ones ;-), as a grown up who still has a high interest in Games, I really don't like its toon-graphic stye.

whereas demon's souls is definitely more designed for a more grown up group of gamers.

the only thing I have to say good about wow is that it`s world is constantly expanded - would love to see something like that in a world of demon's souls.

greetings,
gears

[BladerX]

Just curious how many people use to play WoW and got bored to death of it and found Demon's Souls to be far more challenging and innovative?

I'm a former WoW raiding tank. Too bored to keep playing. This game would rock on PC. Don't suggest a console, I'm too keyboard and mouse oriented to change to a controller.

I would *LOVE* to see this game on the PC. I saw it being played at a friend's house.

[Se_7_eN]

I was a Lock in WoW, raided 4 times a week. Got really old, specially with no new content.

[TannosukeDemon]

I used to, but not anymore. Maybe I'm a RPG fan, but I have the limitation for those things. I can't afford to be a "plant" and be stupid just like that. I have my IRL things to do.

FYI, I was a lvl62 male Night Elf Warrior in Genjuros Server. I raided with many parties in all distances. I left my char as he is in the Outlands. It's the best for him. :P

[guts]

Nope. Too afraid I'd get addicted.
I got addicted to this game instead :devil:

[Taychon]

Nope. Too afraid I'd get addicted.
I got addicted to this game instead :devil:

come on dude afraid you'd get addicted? that whole addiction thing is for weak willed people that wont take responsibility for there own actions. so they say its outta my hands i'm addicted

[rockavitch]

I played it for about 6 months last year, lvl58 Warrior and a lvl70 Paladin, got pretty bored, realised I'd need to buy Lich King to do something new and after adding up the money I spent already I realised I had better things to do.

Was only playing out of boredom, was out of work etc so needed something to fill my day.

[m_Sum]

Nope. Too afraid I'd get addicted.
I got addicted to this game instead :devil:

come on dude afraid you'd get addicted? that whole addiction thing is for weak willed people that wont take responsibility for there own actions. so they say its outta my hands i'm addicted

Weak willed or whatever the cause....people get addicted to video games and the internet (facebook, myspace). That's the whole basis of what addiction is, you can't self control. The pokemon aspect of WoW makes you want to keep playing. Some dumb ass kid died of exhaustion playing WoW! Some of the people I played with were online every time I logged in. As far as I could tell they played close to 24/7. Missing work, ignoring your family, staying locked in your room for a week straight.....all sound like addiction to me.

[DH321]

I never played WoW. I played WaW though :D (cod)

[Cowdude]

I've played WoW since the start - and am still playing it now... Awesome game - if you play it at a high level... I didn't play another game in all that time (about 5 yrs!), until I bought a PS3 at Xmas. I only bought the PS3 because I'm gonna be a dad this summer, so won't have time to play WoW properly, so decided its time to hang up my raiding boots.
I gotta say, I am enjoying Demon'sSouls a lot tho' - although I do miss the other 24 people to run about with, and the other thousands of people loitering about. Demon's Souls seems a bit empty in comparison.

[DH321]

I've played WoW since the start - and am still playing it now... Awesome game - if you play it at a high level... I didn't play another game in all that time (about 5 yrs!), until I bought a PS3 at Xmas. I only bought the PS3 because I'm gonna be a dad this summer, so won't have time to play WoW properly, so decided its time to hang up my raiding boots.
I gotta say, I am enjoying Demon'sSouls a lot tho' - although I do miss the other 24 people to run about with, and the other thousands of people loitering about. Demon's Souls seems a bit empty in comparison.

You can't really compare an mmo's multiplayer atmosphere to any other game. Considering that WoW IS an mmo, what you've stated is a bit obvious.

In all other aspects, I will have to go with Demon's Souls.

[m_Sum]

an MMO with demon's souls style combat would be amazing. Turn-based and whatever they call WoW's combat style is what ultimately bores me about most RPGs. The WoW style of combat is way better than turn-based but still pretty unsatisfying compared to Demon's Souls.

[pointchiz]

an MMO with demon's souls style combat would be amazing. Turn-based and whatever they call WoW's combat style is what ultimately bores me about most RPGs. The WoW style of combat is way better than turn-based but still pretty unsatisfying compared to Demon's Souls.

Yea, heat seeking projectiles and roll the dice actions has been around since the 90's.

[Cowdude]

You can't really compare an mmo's multiplayer atmosphere to any other game. Considering that WoW IS an mmo, what you've stated is a bit obvious.
Yeah - this is true. It's just what I've been used to, and DS is indeed a very different game - and awesome in its own right.

[Taychon]

Nope. Too afraid I'd get addicted.
I got addicted to this game instead :devil:

come on dude afraid you'd get addicted? that whole addiction thing is for weak willed people that wont take responsibility for there own actions. so they say its outta my hands i'm addicted

Weak willed or whatever the cause....people get addicted to video games and the internet (facebook, myspace). That's the whole basis of what addiction is, you can't self control. The pokemon aspect of WoW makes you want to keep playing. Some dumb ass kid died of exhaustion playing WoW! Some of the people I played with were online every time I logged in. As far as I could tell they played close to 24/7. Missing work, ignoring your family, staying locked in your room for a week straight.....all sound like addiction to me.

yea but its also a bull#### way for people to either avoid the game or make comments about it when they have no idea what the game is about such as the guy who said hes too afraid hed get addicted so he got addicted to ds instead. come on are you really addicted or just bsing. sure addiction is real but sayin your addicted to make a point on a forum as to why you wont try a game is beyond stupid

[m_Sum]

yea but its also a bull#### way for people to either avoid the game or make comments about it when they have no idea what the game is about such as the guy who said hes too afraid hed get addicted so he got addicted to ds instead. come on are you really addicted or just bsing. sure addiction is real but sayin your addicted to make a point on a forum as to why you wont try a game is beyond stupid

I see nothing wrong with him knowing himself well enough to avoid getting hooked. Sure video games aren't crack, but it's the same idea.

[Taychon]

yea but its also a bull#### way for people to either avoid the game or make comments about it when they have no idea what the game is about such as the guy who said hes too afraid hed get addicted so he got addicted to ds instead. come on are you really addicted or just bsing. sure addiction is real but sayin your addicted to make a point on a forum as to why you wont try a game is beyond stupid

I see nothing wrong with him knowing himself well enough to avoid getting hooked. Sure video games aren't crack, but it's the same idea.

dude have you even played the game? do you even have any idea why your saying its addictive or are you just copying off what you heard someone else say about the game? your saying getting hooked when theres no addictive quality to the game just say you dont wanna play but dont say youll get hooked because its not getting hooked its not a mental or psychosomatic need to play the game its just someone playing because they dont wanna stop playing.

[m_Sum]

dude have you even played the game? do you even have any idea why your saying its addictive or are you just copying off what you heard someone else say about the game? your saying getting hooked when theres no addictive quality to the game just say you dont wanna play but dont say youll get hooked because its not getting hooked its not a mental or psychosomatic need to play the game its just someone playing because they dont wanna stop playing.

I played the #### out of it for 2+ years. I do know why I'm saying what I'm saying. IMO it's addictive because people compulsively log-on to escape real life or at least alter their mood. I remember before WotLK, one dude in my guild telling us he had just reached 300 days played on his main....WTF! that is 7200 hours played. That guy, IMO, was addicted.

This is turning into a bit of a flame war, so I won't comment after this post.

Obviously we have disagreeing points of view and different definitions of addiction.

[pointchiz]

yea but its also a bull#### way for people to either avoid the game or make comments about it when they have no idea what the game is about such as the guy who said hes too afraid hed get addicted so he got addicted to ds instead. come on are you really addicted or just bsing. sure addiction is real but sayin your addicted to make a point on a forum as to why you wont try a game is beyond stupid

I see nothing wrong with him knowing himself well enough to avoid getting hooked. Sure video games aren't crack, but it's the same idea.

dude have you even played the game? do you even have any idea why your saying its addictive or are you just copying off what you heard someone else say about the game? your saying getting hooked when theres no addictive quality to the game just say you dont wanna play but dont say youll get hooked because its not getting hooked its not a mental or psychosomatic need to play the game its just someone playing because they dont wanna stop playing.

If you're talking about World of Warcraft then yes, the game is designed to keep people playing and paying the subscription fee.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php

The article above was written by John Hopson who works at Microsoft game studios and has a doctorate in behavioral brain sciences. It's extremely technical and also provides results of experiments performed on animals in an effort to get them to behave a certain way.

The best example I can give you is the slot machines at the casino. The slot machines are designed to make money, not lose money. The player is being rewarded with small winnings at random intervals. The large winnings do occur but, very rarely. These random rewards triggers a certain type of behavior in some people. The player keeps playing and coughing up quarters. There are people more susceptible to this than others. The ones that can't control themselves are addicts.

World of Warcraft is almost like a slot machine. The boss might drop your loot this week but, if he doesn't there's always next week and so on...

[Cadaverous194]

Hey this realy isnt the post to say this but i cant find a suitable one.
Ive recently researched this game after seeing all its good rating and i realy want to buy it
The catch is im in europe and i want to know if i can still acess the online features on a us server if i play from europe?

btw i played wow got a few level 80s quit when the lich king patch came out :P

[Notpig53]

hello im new, im going to use your thread to post my question

i couldnt get into oblivion, is there a chance in demons souls?





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[S.Bingham]

I play WoW now. I have been playing it on and off for a few years.
It's a good game with a lot of content. Sure the quests aren't the most creative, but when a game has 2000 quests+ you understand why. The game simply is impossible to come anywhere close to completing and has a very deep and IMO, good in depth lore, even though it is beginning to look old.

WoW is one of those games you have to remember that you will never be the 'best' in, but its still fun and when you have a huge, good group, raiding can be fun.

As an earlier poster said, unfortunately most of the people who play, are complete time wasting idiots who should be banned from playing games in the first place.

[ipwnu1337]

I've never played WoW before, but I suppose that this, in general, can apply to almost any MMO.

I used to play Runescape pretty compusively, and then DDO, but now, I'm bored of MMOs in general. It's just a large level grind. You go and grind to the next level, get a bunch of shinies, and then repeat. In both of the said games, you actually had to cooperate with team members, or else you would not suceed. I didn't like that. The lack of a set storyline in both of those games doesn't help either.

MMOs, in my opinion, are just a huge cashgrab for the creators. They're made to be addicting, but not actually very fun. Free MMO's are just saying: "Here's this chicken bone. You can gnaw on it all you want, but you won't get any meat onto it until you pay up. And you have to keep paying us every month or else you won't get that meat". Paid MMO's are just the same, except you don't even get the bone. Once you have to kill 20 million thingamajigs to advance to the next level, it gets ridiculously boring, and even the prospect of more shinier shinies isn't enough to keep me playing.

/end rant.

[ICE PICK]

i played everquest for 3 months when it came out....it was cool but eh, paying monthly to play 1 single game is not for me, i think its a joke

i saw WoW but it seems like a kids game to me like really cartoony and crap so i never tried it out, but it seems WoW and everquest are pretty much the same thing otherwise

i primarily play shooters tho, but LOVE action RPGs, also a huge fan of monster hunter.....just too bad its on wii now :(

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Double You Tea Eff mate?

[Khlaid]

Yeah I've played on and off for two years now.. just got back after like three months off, its ok some parts of it like pvp I really enjoy, but honestly what I'd really like to see is the same style of world and such as wow with combat mechanics of DS, or for that matter dungeons for 5 peeps in DS

[keiya]

i played WoW. i stoped cause it just started to feel like a job. making sure your logged on for raid times and stuff. however i like WoW better then demon souls. even though WoW was maily a co-op game, you where still able to play with others and you could choose weather or not to PvP. personally i like pvp but its just kinda ruined in Demons souls. not to metion you gotta love trying to beat one area spending 3 hours trying to get passed it and as soon as you do a phantom drops in that is 300 soul lvls higher then you and kills you and you have to start over again. besides all that i just imediatly take away 2 points from any game where you cant jump. if you cant jump its imediatly on my critique list. also adding to all that the whole lose all progress and start over everytime you die along with the fact that to play this game you have to get used to seeing the "you died" screen every five minutes mainly cause of the the whole "oh my character has to take three hours to get up and being vunerable the whole time you are" thing. i will admit, yes the game is addicting cause you really want to get passed that area. but after a while the frustration of it all gets close to that of "i want to kill the nearest person" hell i already gave my brother a black eye because i kept dieing on the false king. he laughed 1 time and i just pulled out one of those kinda punches that you would think only came from a boxing glove that pops out of a jack in the box. demons souls would definatly be better if you could save your progress every so often. or at least drop off your souls into the bank guy.

[m_Sum]

i played WoW. i stoped cause it just started to feel like a job. making sure your logged on for raid times and stuff. however i like WoW better then demon souls. even though WoW was maily a co-op game, you where still able to play with others and you could choose weather or not to PvP. personally i like pvp but its just kinda ruined in Demons souls. not to metion you gotta love trying to beat one area spending 3 hours trying to get passed it and as soon as you do a phantom drops in that is 300 soul lvls higher then you and kills you and you have to start over again. besides all that i just imediatly take away 2 points from any game where you cant jump. if you cant jump its imediatly on my critique list. also adding to all that the whole lose all progress and start over everytime you die along with the fact that to play this game you have to get used to seeing the "you died" screen every five minutes mainly cause of the the whole "oh my character has to take three hours to get up and being vunerable the whole time you are" thing. i will admit, yes the game is addicting cause you really want to get passed that area. but after a while the frustration of it all gets close to that of "i want to kill the nearest person" hell i already gave my brother a black eye because i kept dieing on the false king. he laughed 1 time and i just pulled out one of those kinda punches that you would think only came from a boxing glove that pops out of a jack in the box. demons souls would definatly be better if you could save your progress every so often. or at least drop off your souls into the bank guy.

So you punched your brother because you aren't able to recognize attack patterns in a video game? Maybe you should give up video games and try water colors or gardening or something.

I also like how you blame the game for your actions. You're a good American, but now we just need your brother to sue Atlus.

[pointchiz]

i played WoW. i stoped cause it just started to feel like a job. making sure your logged on for raid times and stuff. however i like WoW better then demon souls. even though WoW was maily a co-op game, you where still able to play with others and you could choose weather or not to PvP. personally i like pvp but its just kinda ruined in Demons souls. not to metion you gotta love trying to beat one area spending 3 hours trying to get passed it and as soon as you do a phantom drops in that is 300 soul lvls higher then you and kills you and you have to start over again. besides all that i just imediatly take away 2 points from any game where you cant jump. if you cant jump its imediatly on my critique list. also adding to all that the whole lose all progress and start over everytime you die along with the fact that to play this game you have to get used to seeing the "you died" screen every five minutes mainly cause of the the whole "oh my character has to take three hours to get up and being vunerable the whole time you are" thing. i will admit, yes the game is addicting cause you really want to get passed that area. but after a while the frustration of it all gets close to that of "i want to kill the nearest person" hell i already gave my brother a black eye because i kept dieing on the false king. he laughed 1 time and i just pulled out one of those kinda punches that you would think only came from a boxing glove that pops out of a jack in the box. demons souls would definatly be better if you could save your progress every so often. or at least drop off your souls into the bank guy.

People tend to respond to problems in 2 different ways.

Mastery and Performance.

Take Joe and Bob. Give them both an easy problem.

Bob will be very happy that he solved the problem. There will be a big smile on his face and he'll also like to show off his achievement to others so that they can see how amazing he is.

Joe on the other hand is simply satisfied that he was able to solve the problem. He learned a new skill which may be useful if he encounters a similar problem in the future.

Give them both a hard problem.

Bob will get frustrated after his first failure. He'll try again and when he fails again, he'll get even more frustrated. After the third failure his frustration has reached a level where he'll either quit or completely lose his mind; which may result in doing things he might regret later on. Bob realized that he can't perform the same way when dealing with easy problems. Instead of blaming himself, he blames anything other than himself.

Joe might laugh or be amused after he got his ass kicked. His first failure taught him that he'll have to pay more attention next time. After the second failure, the problem has tightly grasped his attention. There may be strategy involved and he's focused on solving it by trying new approaches. After his third failure he becomes invigorated. This is a really a hard problem and it's challenging him to find the solution. Joe becomes increasingly motivated to solve it. After a few tries, he solves the problem and feels a tremendous sense of accomplishment.

[SeikenZ]

There's an awful lot of Bob's going around, that's for sure.

[cainos666]

i think wow is far better than Demon's soul, 100000000 time better i wouldnt quit wow for this game that's for sure

[Jyaer]

Haha, I feel like this is a confessional...

I played WoW since beta back in 2004 and have played through all expansions up to Wrath of The Lich King. I've went through all aspects of the game, time and time again and have spent considerable time through it as a part of my life.

I was a carebear (PvE'er) for 2 1/2 years in WoW, in other words, a raider, helped build up a raiding guild, gearing others up, including myself by a point system known as DKP (Dragon-Kill Points). Then after Burning Crusade came out (1st expansion), I became fed up with using the same character and wanted to explore the new race and expansion to the fullest -- by creating a new character and .. yet again, diving into raiding, full time. Within that time, I had decided to change my perspective of the MMORPG and pursued the PvP aspect which didn't go to as far a level as my raiding accomplishment (yeah, I actually call it accomplishment ... need to find a word for all that money + time invested).

Anyway, somewhere along the second expansion I decided to stop as I had been severely undermining my studies as a Pre-med student in college. But it wasn't so easy, the MMORPG genre most clearly affected me in such a way that I had little real care for real life as the social community in WoW and interactions with guild members had grown to a dangerous level. When I say "dangerous level", I had gained a few problems during my time in WoW. Here is the list:

1) Denial of real life values while interacting with family and friends
2) Reduction of friends and contact with such friends, even a relationship for online friends in WoW (social networking, etc)
3) Weight gain and lack of care for physical appearance
4) Losing/lacking concentration in studies due to mind wandering to items to gain (for character progression and to stay up-to-date with content) from weekly raids(4-5 raids a week, 3-4 hours per night) --- just like some earlier posters mentioned a slot machine comparison to WoW, it's a very accurate analogy.

These are just the few reasons off the top of my head but my addiction knew no boundaries. I had lost one year, freshman year of college and only went downhill from there with momentary "bursts" of detachment from World of Warcraft but evidently, went right back to it. I had lost the girl that had loved me since I was more attached to getting "phat loots" or items/gear that would make me more competent with other fellow raiders in the guild and other guilds (raiding guild competition in any server if you are on the top 3). I still remember the tremendous weight that I had gained which had inadvertently caused an accident during a sports activity that I would soon go to surgery for. I had definitely lost a good deal of athletic potential within the time of WoW addiction.

With a heavy heart I can say these things but also realize and remind myself that I have gone through too much with the MMORPG craze, including playing a couple other MMOs in between my "pauses" from WoW -- which was also, nonetheless a side-effect of the addiction I had grown from WoW, in order to compensate for the fact that I "needed" to play a WoW-like game even though I was taking a break from the game. Not to mention, I had gone back to WoW during the latest expansion, Wrath of The Lich King but within 2 months I had given up once I noticed the trend that I was bound to repeat.

Since then, I had stopped playing WoW for almost 1 year now and feel that I am well without it as well as other MMOs for some time but most of all, had realized the countless mistakes that I have committed to my real life family members and friends. I also realize this had inadvertently affected my little brother had I spent more time with him and played with him, instead of creating an avatar of myself for the virtual world, literally.

I haven't given up being an MMO gamer entirely but I am positively more aware of the side-effects and devastation that video game addiction, more specifically, MMORPG addiction like World of Warcraft can create. I agree with some of the earlier posters and respect those who have their own opinion of the game. Needless to say, I have gotten my life back on track albeit slowly and resort to playing PS3 or portable titles when I want to, as I still am a gamer but... I am in the up-most control.

I have also lost all the weight that I had gained and oh yeah, I do play Demon's Souls ... without having to commit myself like I had with WoW (for reasons stated above). ;)

[Dalamari]

I've been playing WoW on and off since it started, usually only a couple months at a time.