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Pbblade
03-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Hello all! So after playing a few months of demon souls hardcore, i decided too fully concentrate myself on PvP, and calculating stuff too see what stats would maximize my damage / health as good as possible combined with a good amount of stamina.. Now i'm currently SL 95 and i've been testing out alot of things due too Invades / being invaded. I myself am a KBS user.. I just enjoy this weapon so much, it's unbelievable and it has alot of potential in my eyes... now the real stuff begins.. I'm just completing 1-3 while getting invaded by a BP, I totally forgot too cast Second Chance but that didn't rly matter, so i'm running back, trying too find a good spot and see what typ of weapons my enemy uses or if hes using magic / melee (wich is quite obvious by the items he wears). So i see hes a double katana user.. Now i noticed hes gonna run past me so i take a good position too pull off a backstab and it worked, taking off 700 dmg, about 60% of hes hp, so i thought i had a good start. Now we started running around in circles waiting for the other too open. I charge in with a running attack and i miss, he backstabs me and BAM, i die.. He one shotted me with 1350 hp using 2 katana's, not using 1 for more dmg.. And it basicly was a minimum of 1350 dmg, it might've been more.. Now can u please explain me how he can pull of 1350+ dmg with a katana, not even enchanted, while i was using a KBS +5 enchanted with cursed weapon doing 700 dmg? I've checked some damage calculators and my KBS should've done more dmg then even a sharp +5 uchigatana. And a makoto / gripless could never have done much more.. The same happend again when i invaded someone in 4-1.. He was using Brand, wich gets no benefits from being upgraded, and just one shots me with a normal attack.. Not even a backstab / riposte.. How are they able too pull off so much damage? it's just insane... Any idea's?

babymim
03-22-2010, 01:40 AM
^Maybe he switched to a Fatal Estoc +5. It kinda looks like an Uchi from afar. :)

Slazer
03-22-2010, 05:50 AM
^Maybe he switched to a Fatal Estoc +5. It kinda looks like an Uchi from afar. :)

This is more than likely the case. Its often difficult to tell the difference because there basically identical in length. And fatal estocs always deal about 1100-1300 dmg or so.

Pbblade
03-22-2010, 05:14 PM
^Maybe he switched to a Fatal Estoc +5. It kinda looks like an Uchi from afar. :)

This is more than likely the case. Its often difficult to tell the difference because there basically identical in length. And fatal estocs always deal about 1100-1300 dmg or so.

I can imagine that a fatal estoc can do so much dmg, but explain me the Brand one shotting me with just an auto hit then :)

HarbingerOfChaos
03-22-2010, 05:26 PM
Simple!


He enchanted it with a +2 penis


But seriously, he was more that likely using some type of glitch.

Pbblade
03-22-2010, 05:28 PM
I've just heard that people can actually lose stats and add those too another, for example, - 99 luck / + 99 strength.. I've read on the wiki they removed it.. Do u think these people would still have it. Cause i can imagine them having 99 str their dmg will be insane.

Slazer
03-22-2010, 07:52 PM
I've just heard that people can actually lose stats and add those too another, for example, - 99 luck / + 99 strength.. I've read on the wiki they removed it.. Do u think these people would still have it. Cause i can imagine them having 99 str their dmg will be insane.

No I doubt it and even if they had 99 strength it wouldnt be thaaaat high. From 50-60 STR I gained like 5 dmg... And im sure the returns diminish even more after 60.

Slazer
03-22-2010, 07:53 PM
^Maybe he switched to a Fatal Estoc +5. It kinda looks like an Uchi from afar. :)

This is more than likely the case. Its often difficult to tell the difference because there basically identical in length. And fatal estocs always deal about 1100-1300 dmg or so.

I can imagine that a fatal estoc can do so much dmg, but explain me the Brand one shotting me with just an auto hit then :)

I dont understand this question. Are you saying he was using Bramd the weapon? And what do you mean by auto hit?

Pbblade
03-22-2010, 09:00 PM
Lemme explain it short, i haven't rly been clear.

He did about 1350+ dmg with Bramd since it cut me off my second chance with full hp (1350) just doing a rolling r1 attack.

rkzhao
03-22-2010, 09:12 PM
probably hyper. Did he have low health?

FITRS
03-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Fatal +5 can do massive damage on backstab.. around 1500 and 2200 on riposte.

Pbblade
03-22-2010, 10:06 PM
No he wasn't hyper since i died before i could even hit him oO. hyper means clever / morian activated right?

rkzhao
03-22-2010, 10:24 PM
yeah but he could have been in hyper before you invaded. Did you look at his health bar?

Pbblade
03-22-2010, 11:26 PM
Yeh, i've noticed that alot of people one shot me tho :o (i play on asian server) it's quite akward, with the most retarded weapons aswell oO

lawson466
03-23-2010, 05:19 AM
Was his uchi cursed? A cursed sharp uchi would do abound 450 base damage I think. Then add foes ring 20% + phantom bonus of 20% or so you're up to 650. Then double it for backstab? Not sure where these things add or multiply. I've done 1350 damage with a crescent estoc before. Though the estoc does get better damage on backstab, but of course I did not have it cursed. It may be possible this is just what happens when you add up all his bonuses. The curse being critical.

Slazer
03-23-2010, 05:44 AM
Lemme explain it short, i haven't rly been clear.

He did about 1350+ dmg with Bramd since it cut me off my second chance with full hp (1350) just doing a rolling r1 attack.

Damn. I can not explain this. If you are sure he was not in hyper then maybe there are more glitches or exploits we are unaware of.

QuantumMercury
03-23-2010, 07:34 AM
Fatal +5 Estoc with Foe's Ring