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don't touch me there
03-10-2010, 07:23 PM
In the post-game, the smith offers me hints, but I cannot get them to work!
"Genseki items forged with Fire, Illusion, and finally Earth turn blood red"
So I took a Genseki shield and put it under the orbs for those skills yet nothing has happened. I have tested alternate methods (and a few other recipe hints from the smith) but have nothing but failure. It hurts that the orbs are jerks and will sometimes remove a seal and push the ones behind it up.

I found a Japanese site that seems to have tips if this isn't working right but I cannot get a translation that I can follow. Maybe it doesn't relate to this at all, even.
竜脈で○○をつけて○○でちゃんと埋めたのにアイテムが変化しない

* 合成で印をつけていませんか?→最後の印は必ず竜脈でつける
* 強化値が中途半端な装備を供えていませんか?→強化限界に達している装備品を規定の竜脈に供え る

From a few online translations, it seems the first point says the last seal has to be done with orbs (and not melding?)..and that's what I did (I also put the shield back under a brown orb to fill the last actual SLOT with Earth, too (Fire, Illusion, Earth, Earth, Earth) and it also did not work.

the second point has to do with the bonus points? The shield was at max (+75) and that did not work.

I think everyone else that was interested in testing these things got a copy of Final Fantasomething and are busy with that now. I am hitting my frustration limit with orbs and scrolls and traps.

Any help with this is greatly appreciated, and thank you for reading.

don't touch me there
03-12-2010, 05:53 AM
Well perhaps I have figured it out due to a test I forgot to do.

I melded a -1 shield to the Genseki to make it one point shy of max bonus points, then I set it under the Earth orb again and let it go until a mole broke the barriers and what I got was a Crimson Shield +3 with an Earth seal so I guess the last piece of the puzzle is probably letting the orb temper the item to it's max power. Bummed about losing the +75 I had on the Genseki shield to start over on a new one, but now I can try those other recipe hints I got! Maybe I just reset the game and get my bonus points back to try out another shield...

OkamiGeisha
05-19-2010, 09:29 AM
What is with the blackening out of the text?

laughingman
05-19-2010, 07:41 PM
You do not need to have an item tempered to the max to have it transform. From extensive testing, I can tell you that a sword/shield will not transform into its upgraded form unless all its available slots for seals are filled.

The Genseki Shield has five slots for seals, and its recipe needs three.
I have had one with Fire, Illusion, Illusion, and Earth that remained a Genseki Shield until I put it under an Earth orb for a few resonances, and ended up with a Crimson Shield. I had the same thing happen when it had Fire, Illusion, Earth, and Earth; and Fire, Fire, Illusion, and Earth. The order seems to matter, but the seals that are duplicated does not.

I have crafted every item I have gotten a recipe for under this assumption, using unmodified weapons/armor/armbands.