Super Robot Taisen:Original Generations

[Takara_Kitsune]

All I have to say... is seriously, you're crazy. There's no point in arguing with you, because you're seriously in your own little dream world.

[Elysion Zero]

In that case, can I count on your continued support for Atlus localizing OGs and OGG?

[Gen Eric Gui]

You can be a fan of something but still have enough common sense to realize when your time is wasted. I enjoyed OG1 and OG2 on the GBA, and I'll still be playing them years from now. I've even started importing some of the Japanese DS titles, and I'l probably grab the new Wii game before long. But I (and everyone else with an lick of common sense) long ago realized that begging for a game on a dying system is a gigantic waste of time. There's a clear difference between being a fan and being pants-on-head insane.

That's really all there is to say on this matter.

Edit: Actually, there is one more thing to say. Your begging would have slightly more credence if you didn't treat the translation of OGG and OGs as Atlus' "duty" and instead showed some damn thankfulness for even getting the original two games in the first place. All I hear from you is "YOU'RE KICKING THE FANBASE TO THE CURB BECAUSE YOU HATE US!", but not once have I seen you say something along the lines of "Thanks for what you've translated so far." Honestly, you've shown nothing but disdain for Atlus' work so far, and how you think that's going to get you any favors from anyone is beyond me.

You're acting like a spoiled child, and until you stop, you and your requests aren't going to get any respect from anyone.

Edit 2: I'll bet $10 he's going to respond with "Thanks for the last three games. Now can I have OGG?"

[Purgeon]

"In that case, can I count on your continued support for Atlus localizing OGs and OGG?"

I doubt my involvement would make a difference, ive ticked alot of people off in the past, lol. But sure, what ya want me to do? How can I help? Whats the plan?

Also... and this is only a suggestion, no more "get'er done", please? Red necks and super robots arent a good combo. You got a good thing goin with the hot blood, stick with that.

[Takara_Kitsune]

In that case, can I count on your continued support for Atlus localizing OGs and OGG?

Ha... No. I got what I wanted. I have the games. And the lack of localizing OGs and OGG aside, I actually like a lot of other things Atlus has released. Shin Megami Tensei and the Trauma Center series are also longtime favorites. Meaning I'd rather they focus on new titles in those series, where they may have a chance at some profit, than beating the dead horse you're on.

You can be a fan of something but still have enough common sense to realize when your time is wasted. I enjoyed OG1 and OG2 on the GBA, and I'll still be playing them years from now. I've even started importing some of the Japanese DS titles, and I'l probably grab the new Wii game before long. But I (and everyone else with an lick of common sense) long ago realized that begging for a game on a dying system is a gigantic waste of time. There's a clear difference between being a fan and being pants-on-head insane.

That's really all there is to say on this matter.

Edit: Actually, there is one more thing to say. Your begging would have slightly more credence if you didn't treat the translation of OGG and OGs as Atlus' "duty" and instead showed some damn thankfulness for even getting the original two games in the first place. All I hear from you is "YOU'RE KICKING THE FANBASE TO THE CURB BECAUSE YOU HATE US!", but not once have I seen you say something along the lines of "Thanks for what you've translated so far." Honestly, you've shown nothing but disdain for Atlus' work so far, and how you think that's going to get you any favors from anyone is beyond me.

You're acting like a spoiled child, and until you stop, you and your requests aren't going to get any respect from anyone.

Edit 2: I'll bet $10 he's going to respond with "Thanks for the last three games. Now can I have OGG?"

I fully expect Edit 2 to come true. He's twisted everything I've said to his own agenda... Wait, do crazy people have an agenda? Oh well. Anyway, I don't understand being so persistent. I was annoyed initially when they didn't announce it, but I let it go. Atlus has done more than enough to appease me. :P (Seriously, look at that upcoming lineup and say you're disappointed. No, not you Elysion Zero. Obviously you will be disappointed no matter what.)

Edit: Purgeon, you are joining in a fool's game. I recommend that you not do so. But I will agree with you on one thing... the mention of "get 'er done" and "balls" is quite irrelevant to the subject matter. Even moreso than most everything else here.

[Elysion Zero]

You can be a fan of something but still have enough common sense to realize when your time is wasted. [Irrelevant stuff] But I (and everyone else with an lick of common sense) long ago realized that begging for a game on a dying system is a gigantic waste of time. There's a clear difference between being a fan and being pants-on-head insane.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5369/pantsman1.jpg

Real men wear their pants on their head. And real men realize that the only bigger waste of time than begging for a game on a dying system is telling someone not to do so using more than one paragraph. The best case scenario for the former is that the game gets released. The best case scenario for the latter is that nothing changes. Clearly, you're not in much of a position to be criticizing me for wasting time.

That's really all there is to say on this matter.

Wait for it...

Edit: Actually, there is one more thing to say. Your begging would have slightly more credence if you didn't treat the translation of OGG and OGs as Atlus' "duty" and instead showed some damn thankfulness for even getting the original two games in the first place. All I hear from you is "YOU'RE KICKING THE FANBASE TO THE CURB BECAUSE YOU HATE US!", but not once have I seen you say something along the lines of "Thanks for what you've translated so far." Honestly, you've shown nothing but disdain for Atlus' work so far, and how you think that's going to get you any favors from anyone is beyond me.

There we go. Ranting is fun, isn't it? There's always more to be said. Moving on, I was thankful up until the point that Atlus skipped over OGs and OGG. I'm still thankful for EF and EF2 and I've shown that thanks by purchasing the first and making plans to preorder the second when Play-Asia allows it. If profits are the bottom line, there should be no greater thanks than giving them my money for the fine product they've created. And how is it showing disdain for Atlus' work when I want more of it? I love Atlus' work. I just don't like the fact that they intend to leave their work on OG incomplete. And I don't expect that attitude to get any favors, not after my predecessor supporters stroked the ol' Atlus shaft with praise for 2 years without convincing Atlus to even begin work on OGs. If they couldn't do it, then I probably can't. And it wouldn't matter if I did. The only thing that I can do, the only thing that matters is that there's continued support for an OGs and OGG release. The chances may be 0%, but at least Atlus knows that people will still buy the games if they ever had a change of heart.

You're acting like a spoiled child, and until you stop, you and your requests aren't going to get any respect from anyone.

Tell me what respect's accomplished in regards to OGs. Then try arguing that I should make an attempt to earn it.

Edit 2: I'll bet $10 he's going to respond with "Thanks for the last three games. Now can I have OGG?

"Thanks for the last three games. Now can I have OGs?" I believe you owe me $10.

I doubt my involvement would make a difference, ive ticked alot of people off in the past, lol. But sure, what ya want me to do? How can I help? Whats the plan?

The plan is to keep the topic going. It's not a good plan, but it's a plan nonetheless and generally takes only 5 minutes if you're supporting SRT rather than competing in the Special Olympics event called "Arguing on the Internets."

Also... and this is only a suggestion, no more "get'er done", please? Red necks and super robots arent a good combo. You got a good thing goin with the hot blood, stick with that.

Megas XLR. A fat gamer from Jersey pimped his ride into a Giant Robot. And it's the most awesome Giant Robot ever. Rednecks don't do traditional Super Robots, but they're still kickass pilots like anyone with manly spirit.

Ha... No. I got what I wanted. I have the games. And the lack of localizing OGs and OGG aside, I actually like a lot of other things Atlus has released. Shin Megami Tensei and the Trauma Center series are also longtime favorites. Meaning I'd rather they focus on new titles in those series, where they may have a chance at some profit, than beating the dead horse you're on.

Good for you. You say you'd rather spend more time lobbying for popular games than beating a dead horse that takes a couple minutes to beat every day all while taking far longer to beat the dead horse of trying to disuade me. Wouldn't it be far more productive for you to join me in beating this dead horse?

I fully expect Edit 2 to come true. He's twisted everything I've said to his own agenda... Wait, do crazy people have an agenda? Oh well. Anyway, I don't understand being so persistent. I was annoyed initially when they didn't announce it, but I let it go. Atlus has done more than enough to appease me. (Seriously, look at that upcoming lineup and say you're disappointed. No, not you Elysion Zero. Obviously you will be disappointed no matter what.)

Sorry I didn't meet your expectations.

I've seen the upcoming lineup, and it does disappoint me. It's not because I'll be disappointed no matter what. It's because Atlus has no plans on releasing the two best OG games after releasing a bunch of lower quality handhelds. Now before someone goes on a tirade about how I don't appreciate Atlus, I'm not saying the work they did was lower quality. Their work was superb, but it's still limited by what they're actually working on. If they put that Super Robot Spirit to work on what are likely to be the only two console games I'll ever bother Atlus about, I'd be as happy as a rooster in a henhouse. Heck, if they even just announced that they were going to begin work on the games it'd shut me up. And I'd probably buy some sort of Atlus merchandise if they opened a store. Definitely an Atlus T-Shirt and maybe some of whatever else they'd be selling. Because I'd be happy to support a publisher that gives a damn about not half-assing work on SRT by leaving the best ones stuck in Japan. Heck, I suppose I could buy a few other Atlus games as well if they stopped using poor profits of lower quality games as an excuse not to publish this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmFEXNpmCLA

But that's not going to happen. Or it will and they're trolling the fanbase by not announcing that they're actually working on the games as I type. It's probably not the latter, but I can hope. However, I'm not one to leave things to hope alone. If Atlus doesn't see an active payerbase for their games, then that's even less reason for them to release a couple niche titles. That's why I'm persistent. I've sat around for 2 years without bothering Atlus on the forums, and I'm not about to be disuaded by those who don't actually care enough to seemingly even want OGs and OGG in english anymore.

I let a lack of OGs go at first, too. I was hoping Atlus would decide to do it without the prodding of fans, considering that they'd already released the the first two OG games. But they've failed to appease me. And they've insulted the proud Super Robot fanbase by saying we're not a profitable target consumer. That just adds insult to injury. You may be appeased because you're getting the games you want, and that's good. But I don't want all those games that Atlus is releasing. I just want two, and then maybe one handheld every couple of years. It's not asking much, but apparently it's asking too much. And I say NAY! Because all I ask is that they finish what they started, profits be damned. If the other series are so much more popular, they should be able to make ends meet somehow. Unless those titles aren't that popular either. In which case it stands to reason that they should go and do OGs and OGG instead.

Edit: Purgeon, you are joining in a fool's game. I recommend that you not do so. But I will agree with you on one thing... the mention of "get 'er done" and "balls" is quite irrelevant to the subject matter. Even moreso than most everything else here.

Arguing against suggesting OGs in the OGs suggestion topic is less irrelevant? It's the complete opposite of the topic's purpose, so you're not quite the authority on what belongs in this topic. Purgeon's a big poster, and he can decide for himself whether he want to play a fool's game or just give up. Instead of being such a downer, put your own persistence to good use and join in this fool's game as well. Because impossibilities are meaningless to fools, and that increases the chances of the game being released tenfold!

[Gen Eric Gui]

OK, dude. You can go on supplying your comedy gold.

And did you honestly use VGCats as an example of something "cool"? Really?

[Steel Greyfalke]

"In that case, can I count on your continued support for Atlus localizing OGs and OGG?"

I doubt my involvement would make a difference, ive ticked alot of people off in the past, lol. But sure, what ya want me to do? How can I help? Whats the plan?

Also... and this is only a suggestion, no more "get'er done", please? Red necks and super robots arent a good combo. You got a good thing goin with the hot blood, stick with that.
O_O Rednecks in Super robots , anyway this seems to be getting out of hand....

[Tivor]

I don't know. I can sorta picture Excellen quipping a "you might be a redneck if..." jokes. >_>

[Steel Greyfalke]

I don't know. I can sorta picture Excellen quipping a "you might be a redneck if..." jokes. >_>

No im thinkin Larry the Cable Guy in Kojis' suit in Mazinger Z

[Purgeon]

I loved Megas, do not get me wrong but there is a huge difference between those characters and larry the cable guy. But really, this isnt foolish at all, a man is standing up for his beliefs in the face of adversity. Thats... well thats freakin commendable I say! Alright! heres to SRW OGS in 2011!

[Yet Another Tim]

Er, can we just bug Namco Bandai/D3 to put OGs in PSN? Seeing how Namco Bandai is overdependent on Dragon Ball, it seems safer to have it released via PSN... in America.

[Elysion Zero]

Er, can we just bug Namco Bandai/D3 to put OGs in PSN? Seeing how Namco Bandai is overdependent on Dragon Ball, it seems safer to have it released via PSN... in America.

Devise a plan, post it and supporters of OGs shall bug away. Personally, I'd still rather see OGs and OGG on the PS2

[Gen Eric Gui]

Nobody but shovelware companies are putting anything on the PS2. Putting anything on there is a pointless waste of money, because 90% of the gamer population isn't buying PS2 games anymore. Why can you not understand this concept?

PSN is your only recourse for these games, and even that is highly, highly unlikely, especially given that you are trying to get it out of Namco, who won't even translate most of it's beloved Tales series.

If you want to play OGs or OGG so bad, import it and play it off of a script like everybody else.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Actually i think id SRT would look good in HD..........

[Purgeon]

You guys can clamor for these on PSN all you want but you forget atlus only localizes these things. So until the Japanese put them up first its a snowballs chance. And to this day there has yet to be a ps2 game on the PSN let alone 2 of them.

[Elysion Zero]

If PS2 is a no go then I suppose we do only have one choice...

BEG ATLUS TO PORT OGS AND OGG DIRECTLY TO THE PS3! Because we'll get our localized SRT and they'll be selling it to us on a console they haven't decided it's not profitable to release it for. Super Robot fans assemble and support this alternative solution that should make both publisher and consumers relatively satisfied!

[Onion of Mystery]

If PS2 is a no go then I suppose we do only have one choice...

BEG BANPRESTO TO PORT OGS AND OGG DIRECTLY TO THE PS3!

Let me point you in the direction you'll need to get that going.

[Onion of Mystery]

Okay, after two years and almost two hundred thousand views (most of which I suspect being the same people over and over) this thread has run its course. Here's why.

The purpose of the Game Suggestion forum is to allow the forumgoers to clue us in to the existance of games that might otherwise go unnoticed. NOT, as stated in the stickies, to rally or mob or hector us about why or why not we choose to do what we're doing. We're well aware of the OGs and OGG games, and have been for years. Mission accomplished.

This thread was kept open to allow users to continue talking about the game. Since it's come to the point where this cannot be done without constant sniping back and forth, it behooves us to shut it down. Elysion Zero, we initially acknowledged your arguments, but gave up after your inability to hear our words. Instead, the thread then turned into a series of "Elysion posts something followed by a dogpile from other posters" cycles. I don't want to see other users end up doing things that would end up getting them banned due to this sort of thing. Elysion's been more polite in the face of this stuff than I would have expected, and that's to his credit.

Also, we're going on vacation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to come back to the office and have to read two weeks' worth of this thread when all the schools have let out for the winter.

So, here's what you should take from this message:
1) We know OGs and OGG exist.
2) We're closing this thread.
3) Don't start another one.
4) Play nice.