Super Robot Taisen:Original Generations

[Steel Greyfalke]

well do you think The FSS should be in SRT? cause I'd Like to see a different formula in the story if FFS is added......

[growlanservoter]

I was scrolling through the SRT endless frontier threads and I cant remeber who but one of the admins said that Atlus would love to publish any SRT game they can get their hands on. So in other words some other company or companies doesn't want us to have the SRT goodness :( I appriciate that ATLUS has brought us 3 great games from this series. But GOD do I want OGs and Gaiden to get US translations that would be the perfect send off Atlus could give the PS2 :D Anyways my import OGs just came in and iam still on chapter 35 of Alpha 3 >< I really need to finish one before i play the other :D Also does anyone know where to get the US release of the anime where the DVDs arnt over 30 bucks ><. I was lucky to get vol 3 off amazon for under 20 :D

[Crimson Cloud]

Anyone know where to get a story translation or character in game conversations in a form of summary? Maybe someone made it out there but I didn't find it so if you know, please PM me.

[Onion of Mystery]

Anyone know where to get a story translation or character in game conversations in a form of summary? Maybe someone made it out there but I didn't find it so if you know, please PM me.

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

[growlanservoter]

Asome Onion simply awsome thanks :D

[Tatsuya Suou]

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

You...YOU!!..Oh well, I can't be mad at you guys; after all, that looks well done. I haven't been around here as of late though I do like that all of you are keep in this alive, whether this happens or not. Amazed this is going up to page 60. I would like t see results rather than posting back and fourth, but I will say again. I believe this may have a chance ONLY if this gets ported to next gen consoles. Atlus fateful, we will have to accept that games for the ps2 are close to done here in the US. I will wait until I here if I am right about OGs being ported for the PS3/360. And if this dose happen I expect atlus to localize this one,


Well before I leave, for those who want to see not just YouTube vids but see SRW live, then me and my fellow /m/en have provide this for you. Super Robot Wars The live stream. (http://www.livestream.com/Verranicus) You can see many from /m/ as well as myself (Metalman W.9) over the streams. Fell free and watch from 6pm EST to 7pm, everything after is show/movie time. (but come back tomorrow for tonight there was a change of plans) Take care Atlus fateful.

[growlanservoter]

As always youtube does OGs no justice the graphics are amazing. I keep wondering how Banpresto crammed 2 games onto a single duel layered disk :D And ATLUS passed over this amazing gem ;D

[Steel Greyfalke]

blame Namco Bandai IMO

[Zeta_Nova]

Eh, why even bother. I already given up. 'An sides, I already have a PS3. So I'll just shoot for NIS America's Last Rebellion or SEGA's Resonance of Fate instead.

[Steel Greyfalke]

well nobody knows the future of SRT OG in the U.S. but hey if Gundam Unicorn is Released in 2010 in the U.S than there might be Hope (i hope)

[Verranicus]

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

You...YOU!!..Oh well, I can't be mad at you guys; after all, that looks well done. I haven't been around here as of late though I do like that all of you are keep in this alive, whether this happens or not. Amazed this is going up to page 60. I would like t see results rather than posting back and fourth, but I will say again. I believe this may have a chance ONLY if this gets ported to next gen consoles. Atlus fateful, we will have to accept that games for the ps2 are close to done here in the US. I will wait until I here if I am right about OGs being ported for the PS3/360. And if this dose happen I expect atlus to localize this one,


Well before I leave, for those who want to see not just YouTube vids but see SRW live, then me and my fellow /m/en have provide this for you. Super Robot Wars The live stream. (http://www.livestream.com/Verranicus) You can see many from /m/ as well as myself (Metalman W.9) over the streams. Fell free and watch from 6pm EST to 7pm, everything after is show/movie time. (but come back tomorrow for tonight there was a change of plans) Take care Atlus fateful.

xD I'm the owner of that channel. Just registered to let you guys know that your times are off. I play from noon-3PM EST now due to some time constraints.

Currently on level 40 on Touma's route of @3. Going to be playing Z after I finish.

[Zantagor]

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

You...YOU!!..Oh well, I can't be mad at you guys; after all, that looks well done. I haven't been around here as of late though I do like that all of you are keep in this alive, whether this happens or not. Amazed this is going up to page 60. I would like t see results rather than posting back and fourth, but I will say again. I believe this may have a chance ONLY if this gets ported to next gen consoles. Atlus fateful, we will have to accept that games for the ps2 are close to done here in the US. I will wait until I here if I am right about OGs being ported for the PS3/360. And if this dose happen I expect atlus to localize this one,


Well before I leave, for those who want to see not just YouTube vids but see SRW live, then me and my fellow /m/en have provide this for you. Super Robot Wars The live stream. (http://www.livestream.com/Verranicus) You can see many from /m/ as well as myself (Metalman W.9) over the streams. Fell free and watch from 6pm EST to 7pm, everything after is show/movie time. (but come back tomorrow for tonight there was a change of plans) Take care Atlus fateful.

xD I'm the owner of that channel. Just registered to let you guys know that your times are off. I play from noon-3PM EST now due to some time constraints.

Currently on level 40 on Touma's route of @3. Going to be playing Z after I finish.

Funny thing, I've been broadcasting SRW@2 @3, Z, OGS, OGG on and off on JTV for the past 10 months ;)

Though nowadays I'm mostly playing SD Gundam Generations Wars

[Steel Greyfalke]

Along w/ SRT: OG we need more SD Gundam Sengokuden..Gotta love those Musha Gundams

[Tatsuya Suou]

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

You...YOU!!..Oh well, I can't be mad at you guys; after all, that looks well done. I haven't been around here as of late though I do like that all of you are keep in this alive, whether this happens or not. Amazed this is going up to page 60. I would like t see results rather than posting back and fourth, but I will say again. I believe this may have a chance ONLY if this gets ported to next gen consoles. Atlus fateful, we will have to accept that games for the ps2 are close to done here in the US. I will wait until I here if I am right about OGs being ported for the PS3/360. And if this dose happen I expect atlus to localize this one,


Well before I leave, for those who want to see not just YouTube vids but see SRW live, then me and my fellow /m/en have provide this for you. Super Robot Wars The live stream. (http://www.livestream.com/Verranicus) You can see many from /m/ as well as myself (Metalman W.9) over the streams. Fell free and watch from 6pm EST to 7pm, everything after is show/movie time. (but come back tomorrow for tonight there was a change of plans) Take care Atlus fateful.

xD I'm the owner of that channel. Just registered to let you guys know that your times are off. I play from noon-3PM EST now due to some time constraints.

Currently on level 40 on Touma's route of @3. Going to be playing Z after I finish.

Funny thing, I've been broadcasting SRW@2 @3, Z, OGS, OGG on and off on JTV for the past 10 months ;)

Though nowadays I'm mostly playing SD Gundam Generations Wars

That reminds me, in a non SRW OG topic, I have a fellow /m/an who streams good robot anime. Check it out!
David Bowie mechandmore. (http://www.livestream.com/mechandmore)

[Verranicus]

http://www.atlus.com/srt/index.html

Oh ho ho...

You...YOU!!..Oh well, I can't be mad at you guys; after all, that looks well done. I haven't been around here as of late though I do like that all of you are keep in this alive, whether this happens or not. Amazed this is going up to page 60. I would like t see results rather than posting back and fourth, but I will say again. I believe this may have a chance ONLY if this gets ported to next gen consoles. Atlus fateful, we will have to accept that games for the ps2 are close to done here in the US. I will wait until I here if I am right about OGs being ported for the PS3/360. And if this dose happen I expect atlus to localize this one,


Well before I leave, for those who want to see not just YouTube vids but see SRW live, then me and my fellow /m/en have provide this for you. Super Robot Wars The live stream. (http://www.livestream.com/Verranicus) You can see many from /m/ as well as myself (Metalman W.9) over the streams. Fell free and watch from 6pm EST to 7pm, everything after is show/movie time. (but come back tomorrow for tonight there was a change of plans) Take care Atlus fateful.

xD I'm the owner of that channel. Just registered to let you guys know that your times are off. I play from noon-3PM EST now due to some time constraints.

Currently on level 40 on Touma's route of @3. Going to be playing Z after I finish.

Funny thing, I've been broadcasting SRW@2 @3, Z, OGS, OGG on and off on JTV for the past 10 months ;)

Though nowadays I'm mostly playing SD Gundam Generations Wars

That reminds me, in a non SRW OG topic, I have a fellow /m/an who streams good robot anime. Check it out!
David Bowie mechandmore. (http://www.livestream.com/mechandmore)

By any chance, do you have some way I could get in touch with this friend of yours besides his lviestream? Have some questions for him.

[growlanservoter]

I just found OG gaiden for 21.50 on ebay and thats after shipping and handleing woot

[Tatsuya Suou]

By any chance, do you have some way I could get in touch with this friend of yours besides his lviestream? Have some questions for him.

David Bowie? Well not really, all I can say is lurk at /m/ and if you see a thread by him then ask him there. Other than that ask at the livestream, and he may give you an e-mail.

Now I have one last non-SRW related post; heck it is it even about Giant Robots. Remember when you were growing up and saw the power rangers for the first time, there was a side story called "Masked Rider". For those for a nostalgia rush check it out here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZXU54mIjM&feature=related) and here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_9tSg83jyw&feature=related) Now aside from the nostalgic feel you most likely won't care for it now. But for those who don't know, Masked Rider or Kamen Rider has a big following the likes of Godzilla. The Masked Rider is truly known as Kamen Rider BLACK RX, a successor to Kamen Rider BLACK. I will show you what BLACK and RX are meant to be like here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwlok9QSiZU) and here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2weDFxeT6As)

Were I am going with this is that I will present one last stream that I found on /m/. This is he steam were I spent the most time in and has got men into Kamen Rider and tokusatsu/live action after the time of the old Masked Rider. The times are on 8:00 pm est. from Monday to Saturday. The stream might take a break once the fall comes, but for now enjoy hanging out with others as crazy as me. Now this is not for every one, so if your not into Kamen Rider or toku that is fine.

Kamen Rider/Masked Rider is well known for powered armored cyborgs that ride bikes, has a sense of Justice and most importunely, can kick someone out of existence in what is known as a RIDER KICK.

This will be my last non-SRW related post I think, don't want to keep the tread up until I hear about OG's for the PS3. Take care and fight for Justice atlus fateful!


RIDER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71dSuSPXtR8)

HENSHIN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-7uPpaJndI)

http://www.livestream.com/JusticeTime

[Steel Greyfalke]

Masked Rider I remember that ,anyways I was thinking but this'll sound stupid but to play a form of OG starting off in La Gias to what should be OG3(someday) but to start off At the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beginning of the Franchise to be included..... It came to me in a dream (maybe I should work W/whats left of Banpresto....)

[Shunyata]

oh boy i wish i could still get my hands on the SRW: Divine Wars anime but alas, honaimaise is now gone and so is its distribution company in the united states, dot-anime. Only place that i have seen where you can get these are off of ebay or amazon. Right stuf is on permanent back order so no go. Of course this is if you are willing to shell out over 400 dollars for the series. I am hoping for a re release through regular bandai, but here is to hoping.

[growlanservoter]

last i read bandai is re releasing the ovas for 39.99 it comes before the divine wars anime series :D so far gaiden isnt as good as alpha 3 and ogs feels kind of slow compared to alpha 3 :) but still great games all around.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Speaking of Which did anyone Watch Cybuster? to me It's ok ...

[growlanservoter]

i didnt know there was an anime about cybuster how many episodes is it

[Steel Greyfalke]

theres 26 Episodes

[Crimson Cloud]

Divine Wars is nothing special, pretty lame adaptation if you ask me. It's only worth checking out it if you want to see characters a bit. The Three episode OVAs is much better and more worthwhile.

[Kamen Advent]

It's strange that this seems to be the most highly requested game for Atlus to bring over and yet we have yet to see it.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Man I hope We see it or thats profit lost to the franchise & that only hurts the Gaming Industry

[Shunyata]

the Cybuster anime was the biggest pile of donkey doo doo to ever be drawn by hand. First off, masaki is an old man, second it takes if i remember more than half the show before we get to see some real action with the lord of elementals and its just so hollow story wise it was shocked i even sat through 16 episodes of it. And what was up with shuu?????..................... i guess thats why it was on sale for 3 dollars a dvd at rightstuf

[Steel Greyfalke]

for 3 dollars a dvd at rightstuf
& theres the Story of how I wound up with the DVDs now this came to me in a Dream but What if a Show was based off of Fighter Roar & Compatible Kaiser (in a dream its cool ,but in Reality the Franchise would die)

[growlanservoter]

If Atlus could bring another one out iam sure they will but as it has been stated previously Bandai namco sucks donky doo and will continue to do so cause bamco fails epically and will never change. Quite frankly bamco needs to declare bancruptcy and thats the end of that ><

[Shunyata]

Bamco will never go bankrupt as an anime distributor, but as a video game company..........heres to hopin............

[Yet Another Tim]

If Atlus could bring another one out iam sure they will but as it has been stated previously Bandai namco sucks donky doo and will continue to do so cause bamco fails epically and will never change. Quite frankly bamco needs to declare bancruptcy and thats the end of that ><

It's safe to conclude that retrieving the Dragon Ball game license is their greatest achievement... in America!

[growlanservoter]

And that isnt much of an achievem ;D

[Takara_Kitsune]

'kay, so, I stopped commenting on this thread for a few reasons... I don't see much of a point in hoping for this game anymore, I've imported it, and the others I wanted have been ordered already, or are queued up for order...

However, I will say one thing, and it's something that you should keep in mind before you say stuff like, "Namco Bandai should go bankrupt/out of business". First of all, I remind you that there are people who work there, and they would be out of a job if anything did happen like that. I don't care where you work, even if you hate it... you don't want the company to go bankrupt or out of business.

... second of all... do you REALLY think that Namco Bandai going out of business would help matters with anything? Well, if you do, you are wrong. They may sell off their properties, yet, at the same time, they very well could just let them sink with the ship, you know. It's happened before, so I don't see why this couldn't happen here, too. Do you really think anyone would actually buy the Tales series or Super Robot Wars? Think about it: One is the overlooked RPG gem that does more right than a lot of RPGs out there... the other is the overlooked and mostly unheard-of SRPG outside of Japan that consists of crossovers from various mecha anime that aren't that popular in the US right now? Yeah... I see the odds being more along the lines of the series sinking with Namco Bandai in this theoretical event, or being sold off to companies that actually manage to do a worse job at distribution and localization.

Companies are there to make money. That includes Atlus, by the way. Atlus does marketing right, they appeal to their target audiences very well, and they don't try to go beyond that. Sure, they pick up some new members to the audience every now and again, but that's fine, they get their money and the customers are happy with what they get. Namco Bandai fails at marketing, as they don't even attempt to advertise what they've got, and expect everything to sell as well as Dragonball-related things. It's the fault of bad marketing management, and unfortunately, it seems Namco Bandai likes to make up for their bad management by charging a fortune on licenses that are not worth what they're charging...

Anyway, point is... just because you're not getting something, doesn't mean that hundreds of people should lose their jobs. I admit I'm not happy with how Namco Bandai handles things (I've got some major frustrations about the Tales series that go beyond their random picks on what to localize...) but I pretty much handled that by bypassing the US branch when it's clear what I want won't be happening in America. Believe me when I say there are a lot of games we don't get in the US, that we will never get here... and that's just how it is. Don't like it? Start importing. Also, you may want to learn some basic Japanese. At least know how to read the menus. "Save", "Load" and "End Turn" are some that you'll want to know for any SRT games...

[Zeta_Nova]

I agree with Takara. About the only SRPG that's popular over here is the Disgaea franchise. Muchless we've been getting like mostly all of their catalogue

From the likes of;
Disgaea
Mana Khemia
that Disgaea spinoff; Can I Really Be the Hero (lol)

Sure, I'd be happy if SRT OG would get accepted into the U.S. But there's other interesting games as well. That's coming from Japan.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Very True, Well SRT Got Accepted in It's GBA & DS Form so Playstation wouldn't be so bad but ,hey Sakura Wars Will finally make to the U.S so this is still a sign of whats to come Next year & the Following

[growlanservoter]

Is Sakura Wars a strat rpg like SRW?

[Steel Greyfalke]

Yes but idont think its Exactly like SRW,& the Site is up , the only reason I Got into this was the GBC game ,the Manga & the fact that Koubu look sorta like Scopedogs

http://www.sakurawars.us/

[Tatsuya Suou]

Just wanted to give an update on one of the links I posted. David Bowie mechandmore is no more. Now enter the Galactic Leyline, streaming now with Gundam, enjoy from /m/ with love.

http://www.livestream.com/leyline

[growlanservoter]

Ill look into the sakura wars then :)

[andyxowner]

i support i played endless frontier hella fun i would like to see some more super roboob games here :]

[Dark Warrior]

Maybe there are more interesting games, but wouldn't it be good if we can understand the WHOLE story of OG Gaiden instead read the story shortened by MNeidengard on gamefaqs? We'll miss most of the fun part of the game, and sometime won't even know where to read next or complete the mission without a faq to show you what is that mission, skill point,... and we'll miss most of the cool things of the games, too! I just wanted to know what they're saying and its complete story (instead of playing and read the faq the same time), and ps2 version is much better than the GBA ones, right? I'll buy one right away if Atlus release an English version of it, the SRW series might be more familiar in US (or other country where people don't know Japanese but they do know English), and Banpresto might gain more (much more) income because there will be no more limit in language (not everyone know Japanese, but everyone know little English), Atlus might even gain more income as well!
And finally, if my there is something wrong with my English, then sorry.

Oh, I forgot, if there are any trouble finding hidden text, just get on gamefaqs (for secrets) or ask Banpresto (for other things) for it, although you wouldn't need to read this line, it's just something just get to my head, and don't remove the voice, just keep the original (Japanese).

[growlanservoter]

We would all love to see it happen the 2 biggest problems are that it is a PS2 game and BandaiNamco.

[Shunyata]

I believe the whole 'Bamco goes under' Is a theoretical hope that will never happen. But if you feel the need to defend something then by all means i wont stop you.

As for translations.....HAS ANYONE NOT PLAYED THE TRANSLATED ALPHA GAIDEN FOR THE PSP OR PSX. Freaking amazing to be able to actually read the story and see all your favorite mecha characters talking to eachother in engrish. Plus it improves gameplay beyond just 'quick skipping' through most of the dialogue making the beauty that is alpha gaiden last.

I do not condone Firmware or Emulation but the guys who released the translation worked hard on it and I think any SRW fan should give it a spin.

LoCalize SUPEr Robot WArs OriGinaL GenERaTioNs PoR FaVor

[Steel Greyfalke]

Alpha Gaiden for Psp ? I Must Have!!!

[Onion of Mystery]

I do not condone Firmware or Emulation but the guys who released the translation worked hard on it and I think any SRW fan should give it a spin.

Does not compute!

[Enzeru]

I do not condone Firmware
I hate firmware too!

or Emulation but the guys who released the translation worked hard on it and I think any SRW fan should give it a spin.
You could always buy the game and...do things that I shouldn't talk about here.

[Steel Greyfalke]

[/quote]You could always buy the game and...do things that I shouldn't talk about here.[/quote]
Oh Crap! my ps1 Disc Thanks for reminding me, Dude

[Syrione]

I do not condone Firmware or Emulation but the guys who released the translation worked hard on it and I think any SRW fan should give it a spin.

Does not compute!

Since it's a fan trans only way to play it is with an emulator. As the patched game doesn't normally work on the console unless modded.

[Onion of Mystery]

I do not condone Firmware or Emulation but the guys who released the translation worked hard on it and I think any SRW fan should give it a spin.

Does not compute!

Since it's a fan trans only way to play it is with an emulator. As the patched game doesn't normally work on the console unless modded.

No, I meant the "I don't condone emulation, but you should all go emulate it" sentiment.

[Steel Greyfalke]

So thats okay if I Get an emulator for my psp?

[CDN Slacker]

Suggestion: If localizing SRT: Original Generation on the PS2 is causing problems (since the PS2 is on its death bed at this point) why not just port it to PSP or have it up for grabs as a DLC? Hell, I wouldn't mind if only the text were translated and all the original Japanese dialogue were to remain in tact like oh say . . . SRT OG Saga Endless Frontier perhaps.

[Onion of Mystery]

So thats okay if I Get an emulator for my psp?
That's not at all what I'm saying.

[Steel Greyfalke]

So thats okay if I Get an emulator for my psp?
That's not at all what I'm saying.cause isn't it technically legal to own an emulator if you have the physical disc of the same game & What should I do then?

[Onion of Mystery]

So thats okay if I Get an emulator for my psp?
That's not at all what I'm saying.cause isn't it technically legal to own an emulator if you have the physical disc of the same game & What should I do then?

It's a tricky line to walk down, and we're not going to discuss it here, the reason being that this is the official message board for a video game publisher and we're not keen on the idea of making Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft angry at us by discussing how to circumvent their protection.

As per our stated rules (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4000), I'm gonna politely request that the topic get back to robot wars, super or otherwise.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Anyways Gettig back on topic Who is SRT's Considered the most Original Of the Banpresto Originals? Will take all bids.:D

[Takara_Kitsune]

Anyone who has music worthy of overriding everyone else's. You know who I mean. ^^

[Steel Greyfalke]

Sanger Zonvolt,Folka Albark ,& Fighter Roar I dunno Theres a lot of good Music in SRT:OG, Armageddon Love thatsong It gives me thoughts :evil: & Inpired Mecha designs based on Chinese Tunics & Celtic legends.

[Constraint]

I think this topic needs to be locked.

[Dark Warrior]

Wonder why, but it looks like this is one of the longest topic here, and why no one has answer could they translate it or not?
Anyone who has music worthy of overriding everyone else's. You know who I mean. ^^
Trombe! (Don't for get the "!" behind "Trombe" !)

Anyone has an idea on how to get them interested in this game?

I think this topic needs to be locked.
Why?

[growlanservoter]

The answer is Kusuha she has been in most of the SRT games.

[growlanservoter]

Wow I just watched the trailer for SRT NEo for the Wii its looking pretty sweet ATLUS there ya go a SRT for a next gen :D.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Wonder why, but it looks like this is one of the longest topic here, and why no one has answer could they translate it or not?
Anyone who has music worthy of overriding everyone else's. You know who I mean. ^^
Trombe! (Don't for get the "!" behind "Trombe" !)

Yeah, you got it. ^^ Apparently that is Elzam's obsession in many fan videos. :P I think it was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6peJ0Bk7fPk that it was in and I was just rolling on the floor over it.

I think this topic needs to be locked.
Why?

I'm going to be honest, I do agree to some extent. Things have definitely gone off topic a few times to the point that... I don't think it will go back. However, I do think it is a slightly fun topic. It's just that once you get a thread as long as this one, keeping on topic does start to become nearly impossible.

[sdragon21]

From now on, i'll just be happy if we get anything SRT at all in the U.S., but i doubt we'll hear anything soon due to the fact that NamcoBandai likes to be stingy about letting other publishers handle their games.

[Uaisop]

I think this topic needs to be locked.

And yet you're using a mecha as avatar?
That's quite ironic....

[Takara_Kitsune]

I think this topic needs to be locked.

And yet you're using a mecha as avatar?
That's quite ironic....

I don't quite think that was the point. The point Constraint was making, is the topic has become off-topic, and has become little more than wishful thinking. Although I think the message that the game won't be coming has been successfully delivered.

[Dark Warrior]

Don't give up hope. I'll get anything about SRW if they have English as their language (I still prefer hearing Japanese voice so I could improve my listen skill and they sound more like the characters OriGinal voice, I just use OG to that for fun :D)
Why don't we just forget about those off-topic posts and get back to this topic ourselves?
Like Capt. Daitetsu once say: "Don't give up hope...", the next part (live your way out) is not suit for when we just want it release in English (I say English because I'm not in US, if it's released, I'll just buy it using online store).
Just I'm playing Japanese version of Gaiden and I just want to read and understand everything in it, every text. Rather than go on gamefaqs for storyline, akurasu.net for menu, SC,... translations, I need English (American is only a little different from English so I call all of it by English for short) version!

[Enzeru]

If Sakura Taisen can come here, I'm sure SRT can come here.

[Steel Greyfalke]

^Absolutely Correct if Sakura Taisen can make it to the U.S, So can many Various & diverse Titles can too

[sdragon21]

I've got a really weird feeling that we'll be seeing this game in the us soon. But it won't be from ATLUS, but Xseed games instead.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I've got a really weird feeling that we'll be seeing this game in the us soon. But it won't be from ATLUS, but Xseed games instead.

Lets hope it gets here somehow..

[Dark Warrior]

After reading what sdragon21 said, I've got a feeling Atlus will consider translate this or they'll lost a lot (yes, very much!) income, maybe if they want to know how much they'll get, they should see how much they've gained when they release SRW OG GBA version.
Or if don't, why don't we just make a poll to see if the numbers of members want them to release this game more than ones that don't?

[Steel Greyfalke]

that would help.

[Shunyata]

I am freely sayin that translated, these two games would be awesome.

Elzam by Far.


Annnnnnnddddd to Bring us Back......All the Way Backkkkkk..........

PlEase LocAlizE SuPER RoboT WaRS OriGiNAl GenEraTions PoR FaVoR And if you cant do it in ps2 form, I will gladly support a different Format Release.

[Dark Warrior]

Should be PS2, because most of us (maybe?) already have PS2 because PS3 and some others just released not too long ago, not everyone would sell it while they still got some PS2 dishs, right?

From now on, why don't we have a little "sidetrack", like some talk beside the main talk?
Like:
Anyone watch TakuTheNarattor (http://www.youtube.com/user/TakuTheNarrator)'s videos (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TakuTheNarrator&view=videos)? They're very good and fun!
Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp4g-NsD7AY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGKE8ECZ0FQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv4r86ZRmNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIrTFlw_pCM
There are plenty of them, just sit back and enjoy the show, remember to watch it in order to enjoy the best experience, especially some series :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

good memories of Xabungle Stomps Kirby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9NbNy_s8QA

any ways have it the fact that Alts Revolving Bunker/Revolver Stake what mm are those rounds ,just wondering

[Enzeru]

I've got a really weird feeling that we'll be seeing this game in the us soon. But it won't be from ATLUS, but Xseed games instead.
XSeed is doing some pretty awesome publishing recently. Muramasa, Rune Factory, Half Minute Hero, Lunar...They're definitely getting up their in my favourite publishers (never topping ATLUS of course!).

[growlanservoter]

Should we go and bug X-seed sense ATLUS seems adamant to publish this :D. Also a poll may help but whats to say that its not the same people revoting lol or creating accounts just to raise the poll. On the down side a poll may not change circumstances ATUS has heard our pleas and cries for an english translation. Its do or don't this late into the juncture if only they hadn't waited so long to release the GBA ones then OGS and OG Gaiden may have had a better chance >< But if we are ever gonna see either game its gonna be ATLUS or X-SEED. So lets go bug the heck out of XSEED now :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

^ I'll give it a shot

[Dark Warrior]

But do you know what is Xseed's website?
Some of us are running out of patience, I think. If they already release these game on GBA, they should release this game on PS2, it'll draw our attention and buy it right after it's released!
And growlanservoter is right, some people will create more account to raise the poll and they might even make Atlus stop consider translate this. And if we keep on suggesting this game, I believe that they'll make it, I do!
For all SRW fans! Atlus should translate more, there are much more SRW games out there, like Alpha series, they're on PS2 too! If you're done with this, you could keep on giving us SRW games by moving to Alpha series and come back when OG3 is out (if Banpresto will make one)

any ways have it the fact that Alts Revolving Bunker/Revolver Stake what mm are those rounds ,just wondering
You think it can be measure using mm? It should be like a few meters! Unless Banpresto tell us, no one know, really.

[growlanservoter]

here is the website for x-seed
hxxp://www.xseedgames.com/

remove the xx and put in tt :D

PS i never gave the revolver or pile bunker much thought :D

[Constraint]

I think this topic needs to be locked.

And yet you're using a mecha as avatar?
That's quite ironic....

So you just signed up an account to tell me this?

[growlanservoter]

X-seed said in an email that they have no intentions for SRT ><

[Enzeru]

That sucks...

Also, I lol'd at this:
http://atlus.com/srt/

[Steel Greyfalke]

that does...

[Dark Warrior]

X-seed said in an email that they have no intentions for SRT ><
Consider that they just lost hundreds of loyal fans of SRW ^^!
Also, I lol'd at this:
http://atlus.com/srt/
They could add more information...
And they could add a PS2 section and Gaiden if they release the game.

And you know, the first time I found out about PS2 version of this game was about a year ago. Hoping that they'll release an Eng version after a year, I just so disapointed and buy a Japanese version of OGG to play while reading the faqs and story on gamefaq.
But one is for sure, no matter when they release this game, until they release this, I'm not gonna sell my PS2! Or I gonna get it when they release the game, I don't want to buy the PS2 again. Beside, maybe when they run out of idea which game to release next, they might jump into translating this game!

[Dark Warrior]

X-seed said in an email that they have no intentions for SRT ><
Consider that they just lost hundreds of loyal fans of SRW ^^!
Also, I lol'd at this:
http://atlus.com/srt/
They could add more information...
And they could add a PS2 section and Gaiden if they release the game.

And you know, the first time I found out about PS2 version of this game was about a year ago. Hoping that they'll release an Eng version after a year, I just so disapointed and buy a Japanese version of OGG to play while reading the faqs and story on gamefaq.
But one is for sure, no matter when they release this game, until they release this, I'm not gonna sell my PS2! Or I gonna get it when they release the game, I don't want to buy the PS2 again. Beside, maybe when they run out of idea which game to release next, they might jump into translating this game!

[Shunyata]

WHo is xseed and how can they get the rights from bamco and or atlus.?

Are they just another niche gaming company?

LoCaLizE Super ROBot WaRs GenERAtions POR FaVor

[Steel Greyfalke]

XSeed isnt goona do anything ,Hmmm..

[growlanservoter]

I finally got around to playing OG Gaiden OMG now I remeber why I fell in love with this series :D. I wish Atlus would at least give us Gaiden it looks like OGS is a lost cause by now :(

[Steel Greyfalke]

it wouldn't have been much of a lost Cause if Bamco wouldn't have absorbed Banpresto...

[Dark Warrior]

Yes, that's right!
And why don't we tell some in Atlus to try and play this game, it's just too good to ignore.
I only know this game by coincidence, I just going online then I saw my friends talking about some SRW games, I ask them for a little "review", then decide to buy OG1 on GBA, then, I can't resist buying OG2!
When I heard Gaiden was out last few year (2 or 3 years), I just wait but now, I decided to buy Japanese version and read the faqs to understand it story! If Atlus release Gaiden (at least Gaiden) in English, I'll buy it right after I know it's released!
You know, reading the faq isn't enough, you'll miss much fun parts and good parts of the story, the faq only to tell you the main story and only tell fun parts some time and not full yet!

Maybe now, can I ask you if my English is okay? (sideline :D)
And more, anyone know that TakuTheNarrator on YouTube is gone for a few years?

[Steel Greyfalke]

XSeed isnt goona do anything ,Hmmm..
@ Dark Warrior actually your english is better than mine I'm now growing an accent which is weird I typed GOONA!

[growlanservoter]

I wonder if its possible for atlus to tell us why these were over looked :( but it wont happen. Heres to hoping we get the Wii release cause the Wii is region locked and I don't liek the wii enough to buy a jap system for one game :D

[Dark Warrior]

XSeed isnt goona do anything ,Hmmm..
@ Dark Warrior actually your english is better than mine I'm now growing an accent which is weird I typed GOONA!

Thank you, and why did you quote your own post anyway? And what kind of accent?

Anyway, I just read some other forum's topics and I see they're still waiting for OGs and OGG to be released in English every time a SRW topic is open, no matter what is that SRW game, they still said something like: "I wonder when OG PS2 version is going to be release in English?"! But they don't know about this forum, I can't tell them because the last posts is too long ago.

And about the Wii, I don't know... :question:
I wonder if its possible for atlus to tell us why these were over looked
Atlus should tell us why they didn't read this topic for too long, and why they didn't give us any answer yet if they did read this!

[Steel Greyfalke]

[quote=Steel Greyfalke;133244]XSeed isnt goona do anything ,Hmmm..
@ Dark Warrior actually your english is better than mine I'm now growing an accent which is weird I typed GOONA!

Thank you, and why did you quote your own post anyway? And what kind of accent?

A weird mix of Tex-mex & Japanese, & I quoted myself to point out GOONA,

[Dark Warrior]

Right... I see. I know it's gonna but I wasn't paying attention to the post you qouted :D
And do you know anyway to let the admin answer us?
The last think he said was like "Please go back to robot war, super or anything", then I don't see him anymore!
I've been waiting for 2 or 3 years now! I need some answer, at least say "we're considering about this game" or anything like that, even if I've completed the games 10 times, I'll still buy the English version, seriously.

[Crimson Cloud]

Don't think they will release it, they had a good chance. Ps2 is slowly sinking now and people are going on next gen consoles. I just sticked to my Japanese version and reading faqs around the net.

[Steel Greyfalke]

should I do the same?

[Dark Warrior]

I think you should, PS2 really is sinking, and they might sell the machine if they and we don't get more good PS2 games, although I really want to know what the characters is talking about, I really want to, I just want to read all its conversations, I want to read it all, there are very many parts that we miss, faqs can't give us everything in the story.
If Atlus only give us 1 answer that they'll consider it, I'll tell everyone that likes this game to keep their PS2, if you know Vietnamese or other languages, you should go around any SRW topics on the internet, I'm sure you'll find dozens of them!
Sorry, I'm not in a very good mood right now.

[sdragon21]

I just figured Something Out: Atlus said they wern't gonna localize Original Generations, but they didn't say a thing about OG Gaiden. So there's still a chance that'll come here, but i'm not holding my breath.

[growlanservoter]

When did they say that generations wasn't coming out? The only info I have gotten is via email saying that generations wasn't on the list at the moment. Basically it was neither a yes answer or a no answer. But like ya siad I am not holding my breath for it. Gaiden is'nt looking to get a release either but I am happy with my import. (Goes back to playing Gaiden).

[Tatsuya Suou]

Well then...http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136640#post136640

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6732/1254794478174.jpg

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well then...http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136640#post136640

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6732/1254794478174.jpg


1st Perorder if localized!!:D

[Tatsuya Suou]

Most likely...Now it’s getting interesting!
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1839/1254797447218.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8331/1254797492226.jpg




I know this belongs in Endless Frontier, just excited about the sudden news.
Posting same pics here, get to it atlus.8)
http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136658#post136658

[Steel Greyfalke]

Most likely...Now it’s getting interesting!
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1839/1254797447218.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8331/1254797492226.jpg




I know this belongs in Endless Frontier, just excited about the sudden news.
Posting same pics here, get to it atlus.8)
http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136658#post136658


Ialdabaoth so Glorious !!!! Its like Hokuto no Ken fused with DBZ & G Gundam, *Screeches with Glee*:D

[Purgeon]

Think I'll pass on the above. Still havent been able to finish Enless Frontier. Its a solid game but all the Super Robot Wars references keep on reminding me that this game IS NOT super robot wars. Had it been all new characters and not a loose tie in, it would have been more playable... Sadly I think those tie ins basically set the game up for its own downfall. Its probably an interesting start into the SRW series but for someone who loves the old style... it just cant compare.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Think I'll pass on the above. Still havent been able to finish Enless Frontier. Its a solid game but all the Super Robot Wars references keep on reminding me that this game IS NOT super robot wars. Had it been all new characters and not a loose tie in, it would have been more playable... Sadly I think those tie ins basically set the game up for its own downfall. Its probably an interesting start into the SRW series but for someone who loves the old style... it just cant compare.

I Argee but its better than Super Robot Spirits 64 *Shudders*

[Purgeon]

I played A srw game on 64. Not sure if its the same one your talking about but I kinda liked it... Then again i didnt get to far. I think shining gundam and getter robo showed up just as the devil gundam did. Thats the last i remember.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Was it 2d Sprites & 3d Backgrounds Cause thats Super Robot Wars 64 but Super Robot Spirits was full 3d fighting game

[Purgeon]

Yeah definitely wasnt a fighting game, haha. I kinda wanna check that out now just to see such a spectacle.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I say Go with Tech Romancer I wolda preferred this game like Battle Assault but thats my opinion.but its good to add variety to your systems no matter the game.

[growlanservoter]

It was endless frontier that got me into the SRT games I love endless frontier. :D

[Tatsuya Suou]

Like I said a few pages back, I'll present any up to date info on SRW games that I can find, and this time I'll do something a little different. Aside form the main suggestion thread that has the temp page as well as first game play; I'll add the main characters here.

The info from this link here (http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1228227_1407.html) and you can thank /m/ for the translations. (It isn't complete due to it being a rough translation so if you want to add to it a bit then feel free.)


Also enjoy the first gameplay OG Saga 2. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQysPVLgUnI)





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Aledi Naash
Protagonist, currently 17.
A young warrior from a race known as "Shura", have been thrown into a fighting life since 12 years old in the war ridden country called "Hakoku"[波国].
Has the nickname "Gouren no Aledi"[Aledi the hard trained?] and is a master of melee combat, wields the techniques of the "Haouken" and "Kishinken".
Has a very serious character, [can't read a kanji, kind of get the meaning that he trains often].



http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2047/vrqm23zfk8ojq6akb3sav8r.jpg
Neige Hausen
Princess of the honorable Hausen family from the country of elves "Elfetale", now 117 years old.
Got caught up in a dimension shift in the previous war [first game?] and was transported to Hakoku.
There she live with the Shura till she finally had the chance to return to Endless Frontier[?].
Strong-willed but wilful, [something about her habit in speech].
Fights with a big spear, "Feyslayer".


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Rasatsuki Arkon
A Rasetsuki of legend that rests in the "Tower of [can't read kanji]" in Hakoku.
Rasetsuki are robots that move on the strong desires [? 覇気], it runs on the battlefield together with its controller during battles.
However before Arkon can have a befitting controller, Hakoku fused with Endless Frontier and it disappeared[?].
Aledi sets off on a journey to chase after the Rasetsuki.

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Youseiki Feicried
A Youseiki that is passed down in the Hausen family.
Youseiki are mechanical armors that move on magic[魔力? or demonic power?].
Before the elves are transported to Endless Frontier there was a great war, at that time the Youseiki went missing.
Before the Youseiki return, Feicried once again appears.....[? really rough trans here]
- theres mystery surrounding Feicried, disappearance then reappearing?


I have updates on two other threads, be sure to check them out.

[Constraint]

You know, this is a suggestion thread, not a let's discuss about SRW related stuff. Especially Frontier Exceed which has got nothing to do with a localization for SRW OGS.

[growlanservoter]

Awsome just awsome keep up the good work. I love Neige. That gameply footage just made me pick up endless frontier again :D

[Shunyata]

Technically if we are discudding who our favorite original bot's are then it places in the 'LoCalIZEation OF Super RoBoT WArs OriGINaL GeNErAtIonS' thread based on the pure fact we are discussing banpresto originals.

[Shunyata]

Still ELZAM in my book...... ^_^

[Dark Warrior]

And Zengar in mine.
To get back to the topic, let's discuss about our favorite mechs.
Now, what are your favorite mechs?
Mine is the Yaidabout (play it, then love it, it has cool attacks!), Dygenguard (why I wouldn't I like this?) and Altensei, Wessritter (these 2 are best to go with each other), and some others, too.
But I'll see if anyone like mechs that I like.
And, thank you for continuing to support this topic :D

[growlanservoter]

Oh man I have so many I love to use but my all time favorites would have to be Wild Wurger and Falken, Dancugar and Dearka and yellow gundam from Alpha 3. In all of my SRT playthroughs these mechs seem to always end up on my team. Ryuko, Idabolath, Altesien, Weisritter, Destroid Monster, Black Getter, Wing Zero, Heavy arms, Quatra, Hi Nue, Sazabi, Dygenguard, Trombe, Combatable Kaiser, Strike IWSP, J, Guy, Great Mazinger, Goldymarg only so I can use oblivion hammer atack, Puru and puru 2, SRX, R-gun Banprios,Art-1,Rblade,and then in Gaiden I am finding that the combined AM gunner and Huckbein (Rio and Ryoto) is a pretty kick ass unit. Now if only I could read and understand the story/ dialougues :(

[Zeta_Nova]

Bah, why worry about this when there's also the possibility of us gettin' Luminous Arc 3 from ATLUS. Personally for me, I ditched the PS2 already in favor of PS3. At the moment that ATLUS said that they didn't have any plans on doing SRT OG and OGG.

[Rambler]

Signed up to show my support for these titles.

Also @ Zeta_Nova - In a lot of your posts on this topic all you say is something about ditching the ps2 for the ps3 or that you have already given up on the localisation of this game or something else negative towards it. Alright we get it, you dont need to post the same thing 20 times.

[growlanservoter]

I tried the second LA and I didn't find it to be that great. I am glad I borrowed it from a friend and didn't buy it >< The DS title I want now is endlessfrontier exceed :D

[growlanservoter]

Ok I just finished my second play through of OGS and OGG here are the next 2 SRT games iam looking at Z and advance portble which one should I get?

[Shunyata]

See zeta some of us around these here parts actually have a ps3 that is backwards compatible. I will support this even if the ps2 dies. MY personal fav mechs of the originals has to be SRX...... Or even the dis-srx...... Banprios is kind of a cop out in my opinion.

Definately get the bad @$$ness that is SRW:Z. Freakin amazing new animations plus it has my two ultimate favorites, Turn A and Turn X.

[Purgeon]

See zeta some of us around these here parts actually have a ps3 that is backwards compatible. I will support this even if the ps2 dies. MY personal fav mechs of the originals has to be SRX...... Or even the dis-srx...... Banprios is kind of a cop out in my opinion.

Definately get the bad @$$ness that is SRW:Z. Freakin amazing new animations plus it has my two ultimate favorites, Turn A and Turn X.

Whoa now! Lets not say things we cant take back. The Banpreios kicks major butt! What other Super robot can break dimensional walls with the ease it did huh? Not to mention, it doesnt need to combine, its attacks are ridiculously more powerful, its just an all out great mech. Id like to see the Astanagant in the OG universe before the dis srx since that was just fan service.

Z is an amazing game, i'll agree there.

[Shunyata]

But...... Banprieos just looks so........Ugly for an original. It may kick butt and all but it looks like an oversized voltron from power ranger world...........

http://media.photobucket.com/image/banpreios/LanceVulcano/Banpreios2.jpg

[Purgeon]

But...... Banprieos just looks so........Ugly for an original. It may kick butt and all but it looks like an oversized voltron from power ranger world...........

http://media.photobucket.com/image/banpreios/LanceVulcano/Banpreios2.jpg

How can you say that? Its design is amazing! Voltron and the rangers wish they were as awesome as that machine is.

[Dark Warrior]

http://media.photobucket.com/image/banpreios/LanceVulcano/Banpreios2.jpg
I think it's really is good, but it looks a little too much, I think.

[Purgeon]

It doesnt look much different than the original, just buffed up, which youd expect from an upgrade. At least its head looks better proportioned than the originals.

[Crimson Cloud]

How come there is a large fan base with these titles and such a few games have been translated? That is the one thing I'll never understand. And other one is, well, with so much people around the net I'm surprised that someone didn't translate down character conversations walkthrough from ps2 games. I know some people would actually pay for that to understand their imported games better ;)

[Shunyata]

One huuuuuuge mecha Faux Pas are the Freakin HUGE LEG SPIKES!!! I mean come on that is so ugly they could of done better...... which they did with dis-srx.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/dis%20srx/GX87/DiSRX.jpg

It still has the spikes but atleast it meshes together better visually then the virtual on steroid reject..........

Wont deny though that the banpreios is ultimately more powerful

[happysmiles!]

Banpreios?? Christ! Back in my day, when we used to play our Super Robot War titles on jimmy rigged PS1s, SRX was the baddest mofo in town. You could only combine that guy a limited number of times because he was just that badass. And there was always that risk of the Toronium Engine just blowing up and destroying everyone (and everything). Now how exciting is that? Not to mention the R Series pilots were complete newbies and had the absolute COOLEST combat instuctor ever. Ah, now those were the good old days. Banpreios is just too refined. No thrill to it at all. Blah.

[Shunyata]

Man I remember in Neo Super Robot War, if you didn't save up those transformations there would be hell to pay once you got to the extra stages........... I think im gonna play that again just so i can see the beginning of the SRX team and giant robot animations.

[Purgeon]

The leg spikes are his sword! WTH dude?

And hey I have nothin but respect and love for the original.

[Shunyata]

Well the creators were all probably sittin around one day, "Well we are putting in Virtual On Mechs in this game so might as well give the SRX a makeover that will look just like em. Why not give him rediculously huge leg spikes while we are at it. Wait. What are the leg spikes for? Well its an ode to the Power Rangers. Wait. Why? I thought this was going to be an original design? Nope i changed my mind I want it to look like an overgrown Power Ranger Zord mixed with Virtual On. Oh and lets include huge leg spikes for absolutely no reason an use them for a sword."

This guys is one that truly needs a makeover:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/cybuster/Teranar/CybusterCute.jpg?o=27

[Steel Greyfalke]

This guys is one that truly needs a makeover:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/cybuster/Teranar/CybusterCute.jpg?o=27[/quote]

than Cybuster would look like a higly detailed Billbine & ITS SO CUTE!!!!

[Purgeon]

Why didnt you just tell me you didnt like the cybuster? I wouldnt have wasted all this time defending the SRX cause now I know your full of it. DONE!

[growlanservoter]

Cybuster is cool but it always seems to be dropped for the Wugar L :D

[growlanservoter]

Z is out of my price range till i get paid but i can get MX how is it?

[happysmiles!]

Z is out of my price range till i get paid but i can get MX how is it?

MX is hours of fun. Best thing about it is its portable. Makes those boring college lectures go by so much faster.

[growlanservoter]

Ah iI see MX has psp release as well but that is more that Z I was looking at the Ps2 version of MX. PS2 is and will always be my favevorite system. Sony can never improve on perfection. That junk they call the PS3 isn't worth 300 bucks maybe 100 but I will deff dish out 300 for another Japanese PS2 if mine craps out :D

[Purgeon]

That junk they call the PS3 isn't worth 300 bucks maybe 100 but I will deff dish out 300 for another Japanese PS2 if mine craps out :D

Its well worth the 300 bucks. The Blu Ray player alone is stunning.

[sdragon21]

The thing's i would give to see this on XBLA and PSN...

[growlanservoter]

Blue ray is way to expensive for me to worry about right now lol
but if an SRT title hits the ps3 ill get one :D

[happysmiles!]

That junk they call the PS3 isn't worth 300 bucks maybe 100 but I will deff dish out 300 for another Japanese PS2 if mine craps out :D

Its well worth the 300 bucks. The Blu Ray player alone is stunning.

Agreed my friend. Speaking of Blu-rays, anyone going to buy Gundam Unicorn in March? I know I am :)

[Steel Greyfalke]

That junk they call the PS3 isn't worth 300 bucks maybe 100 but I will deff dish out 300 for another Japanese PS2 if mine craps out :D

Its well worth the 300 bucks. The Blu Ray player alone is stunning.

Agreed my friend. Speaking of Blu-rays, anyone going to buy Gundam Unicorn in March? I know I am :)
Yes I have to, I Own Most of the U.C.timeline & Char's Counterattack .

[Purgeon]

Those gundam Blu Ray titles are japan only right?

[SpaceMartian]

Whoa it's been almost two years since I posted here (in fact you can see my first and only post on the first page).

Well it's a shame that some publishing companies have no interest in bringing this game over. Since the PS2 is nearing the end of its time, wouldn't it be a better idea to localize and release the two games for download on PSN, or put them on a single Blu-ray for PS3? It's wishful thinking, and I totally doubt any company would do this for such a niche title...

However, I'm still showing my love and support for such an underrated (in the US), yet awesome title. ;)

[growlanservoter]

ATLUS please give the fans this game a Limited Ed bundle would sell out I am telling ya put OGs And Gaiden together I am sure banpresto or Bamco will be okay with it :(

[Steel Greyfalke]

Bamco better agree!!! or Else they get a complaint letter with a moldy Chicken nugget!!!

[growlanservoter]

I figured Id post here first rumors are flying around the Banpresto is working on a PS3 title and to confirm even more I checked RPGfans release dates and sure enough there is a TBA next to SRT under the PS3 category. I didnt post a suggestion thread due to the fact that these are just rumors but if it is true sense the US PS3 can play import games I may be investing in a ps3 sooner rather than later :D

[Purgeon]

There have been rumors of s ps3 Super Robot Wars for a long thime now.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I figured Id post here first rumors are flying around the Banpresto is working on a PS3 title and to confirm even more I checked RPGfans release dates and sure enough there is a TBA next to SRT under the PS3 category. I didnt post a suggestion thread due to the fact that these are just rumors but if it is true sense the US PS3 can play import games I may be investing in a ps3 sooner rather than later :D

I think I shall too

[happysmiles!]

Those gundam Blu Ray titles are japan only right?

Simultaneous release.

[James Fiend]

It warms my heart to see this thread still going strong.

[Sseklebeast]

Off topic sort of but have you all seen the translation project for SRW J? If this has been mentioned before I apologize.

http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,5845.0.html

From what I've read it's making steady progress.

[Purgeon]

Those gundam Blu Ray titles are japan only right?

Simultaneous release.

I see. Thank you for the info.

[growlanservoter]

ok I just got z and Mx on the ps2 next paycheck hopfully i can pick up A for the psp and Impact. How is impact for the ps2 I love Alfimi but I dont want to get the game just for her ><

[growlanservoter]

Argh scratch that I got Impact on ebay for 10 bucks so :)
Why didn't anyone tell me SRT was an addiction XD

[Steel Greyfalke]

ok I just got z and Mx on the ps2 next paycheck hopfully i can pick up A for the psp and Impact. How is impact for the ps2 I love Alfimi but I dont want to get the game just for her ><
I need MX portable but i have A Portable

[growlanservoter]

while waiting for my new/used imported games to arrive I am running through Alpha 3 again and now I have a question. Did A3 come first before OGS and OGG because the attack animations seem more lively and not as stiff as OGS or OGG but I love them all just the same :)

[Sseklebeast]

Yes, Alpha 3 was first by about two years or so.

[Shunyata]

Cant wait for Gundam Unicorn. What SRT game i really want is that lonely Cybuster title for the psx. I forget what it was called but it looked so bad @$$ that i really wanted to play it. "Panzer something or another........."

Impact is the longest SRT game you will ever play. EVER!! Its like 93 stages long. Oh and get ready for the brutality of that games skill points..............

MX is far better in my opinion plus you get to save eva unit 3

[growlanservoter]

Sweet news :) is unit 3 playable as well :)

[Purgeon]

Sweet news :) is unit 3 playable as well :)

Unit 3 You say... Might have to dust off that game and start playing it again. Really couldnt get that into MX. A was vastly superior to it, mainly for the reason of better series to start with and the actual getter robo theme. If it only had mazinger z's then Id be set.

[growlanservoter]

I think it is while at work today I was goofing off on gamefaqs and there is a forth Eva piolet other that shiji rei and asuka.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I think it is while at work today I was goofing off on gamefaqs and there is a forth Eva piolet other that shiji rei and asuka.
Isnt that Toji (i think) thats his name

[pktazn]

I would love to see this series... unfortunately I think the reason it's so hard is because of all the copyrighted mecha in it so they have to get permission from a lot of different companies :[

BUT if it were released here, I would definitely buy it.

[sdragon21]

Come on atlus, you know you want to send the PS2 off with a bang, and you're obviously sitting on a gold mine. So why not take a risk and bring this over???

[Purgeon]

Toji huh? I would have preferred Kaworu, but hey, Ill take unit 3 any day.

[growlanservoter]

Yea toji is the name of the 4th piolet :)

[Steel Greyfalke]

Yea toji is the name of the 4th piolet :)
YAYYY I Was Right!

[Yet Another Tim]

At the moment that ATLUS said that they didn't have any plans on doing SRT OG and OGG.

That reminds me: I called up D3 Publisher of America days ago and asked them about whether they have plans to localize Super Robot Wars; I received this response over the phone, to the effect of: "We do not have the liberty to answer that question." Instead, they did guarantee me they "are under direct orders from Namco Bandai to localize their parent company's games (Namco Bandai games)."

[sdragon21]

At the moment that ATLUS said that they didn't have any plans on doing SRT OG and OGG.

That reminds me: I called up D3 Publisher of America days ago and asked them about whether they have plans to localize Super Robot Wars; I received this response over the phone, to the effect of: "We do not have the liberty to answer that question." Instead, they did guarantee me they "are under direct orders from Namco Bandai to localize their parent company's games (Namco Bandai games)."

Wait, did D3 bring over Chaos Wars??? If they bring over OG's, I will be so pissed...

[Onion of Mystery]

At the moment that ATLUS said that they didn't have any plans on doing SRT OG and OGG.

That reminds me: I called up D3 Publisher of America days ago and asked them about whether they have plans to localize Super Robot Wars; I received this response over the phone, to the effect of: "We do not have the liberty to answer that question." Instead, they did guarantee me they "are under direct orders from Namco Bandai to localize their parent company's games (Namco Bandai games)."

Wait, did D3 bring over Chaos Wars??? If they bring over OG's, I will be so pissed...

No, no, that was O3. Their logos do look kind of similar.

[sdragon21]

That's good 2 know... Wait a sec, Onion posted in this thread for what seems like the 1st time in forever. Is this a sign from the atlus gods that good things are on the way???

[Onion of Mystery]

Nope. I can't comment on rumo(u)r, but I can correct absolute falsities.

[sdragon21]

http://www.thefullgamut.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/darth_vader_nooooooo.gif And i was so close to getting an answer out of Onion!!!

[Purgeon]

PS2 is unfortunately very dead guys, its time to bury this hope. There is a list of like 6 games slated for the rest of this year and next year combined. Its over, we lost.

[growlanservoter]

Its not over until the world ends in 2012 >:D. Seriously though who is D3 never heard of them? And just because only 6 ps2 games are slated for this year and next year doesnt mean that we wont still get an announcement :)

[Elysion Zero]

The Nintendo 64 is even more dead, but if Atlus released a translated Super Robot Taisen 64 there would undoubtedly be buyers who still have their old consoles tucked away for a rainy day and a stroll down yesteryear.

The PS2 isn't quite dead yet and OGs/OGG aren't anywhere near dated. If they were released stateside, it's hard to imagine that sales wouldn't exceed that of either or possibly both OG1 and 2 due to the vastly superior quality of the game and the love mecha fans would have for it. Of course, it's probably a considerably greater amount of work to bring over a console game compared to a handheld one. However! It's only fitting since Atlus is releasing all the handheld OG games that they also bring over probably (read: hopefully) the only two console games of the series, especially since they expand on the series by adding new material. Atlus' release of Original Generation just isn't complete without them. Now I don't know how hopeless an english release of OGs/OGG is, but it's never time to throw in the towel as long as even 1 Super Robot fan in the US still has a PS2. Of course, most probably already do and the rarity of a stateside PS2 SRW release would prompt the ones that don't to purchase their own. And that's even more reason to keep this topic alive. Unless Atlus is actually working on those games as we type. In which case I'll be forced to shed MANLY TEARS of appreciation. Still, supply and demand never hurts. As in, we and any other mecha fans on the internet continue demanding OGs and OGG in english until it is supplied to us for a price around sixty or so dollars.

Afterthought: Wait...what's this about D3 and them releasing games for Bandai Namco? Are we suggesting this in the right place?

[Steel Greyfalke]

The Nintendo 64 is even more dead, but if Atlus released a translated Super Robot Taisen 64 there would undoubtedly be buyers who still have their old consoles tucked away for a rainy day and a stroll down yesteryear.

The PS2 isn't quite dead yet and OGs/OGG aren't anywhere near dated. If they were released stateside, it's hard to imagine that sales wouldn't exceed that of either or possibly both OG1 and 2 due to the vastly superior quality of the game and the love mecha fans would have for it. Of course, it's probably a considerably greater amount of work to bring over a console game compared to a handheld one. However! It's only fitting since Atlus is releasing all the handheld OG games that they also bring over probably (read: hopefully) the only two console games of the series, especially since they expand on the series by adding new material. Atlus' release of Original Generation just isn't complete without them. Now I don't know how hopeless an english release of OGs/OGG is, but it's never time to throw in the towel as long as even 1 Super Robot fan in the US still has a PS2. Of course, most probably already do and the rarity of a stateside PS2 SRW release would prompt the ones that don't to purchase their own. And that's even more reason to keep this topic alive. Unless Atlus is actually working on those games as we type. In which case I'll be forced to shed MANLY TEARS of appreciation. Still, supply and demand never hurts. As in, we and any other mecha fans on the internet continue demanding OGs and OGG in english until it is supplied to us for a price around sixty or so dollars.

that was the most Beautiful thing ever posted on this topic *SNIFF* For MECHA & The glory of MANLY TEARS!!

[Purgeon]

You know what, I hope D3 does publish it. They published one of the best games in the universe out done only by SRW, Earth Defense Force. If they released it I'd have sell my soul to that company.

[sdragon21]

You know what, I hope D3 does publish it. They published one of the best games in the universe out done only by SRW, Earth Defense Force. If they released it I'd have sell my soul to that company.

Was EDF any good??? BTW, anyone who is anyone should e-mail D3 and let them know that you want OG's in the states!!!!

[kat_ears_kahrain]

You know what, I hope D3 does publish it. They published one of the best games in the universe out done only by SRW, Earth Defense Force. If they released it I'd have sell my soul to that company.

Was EDF any good??? BTW, anyone who is anyone should e-mail D3 and let them know that you want OG's in the states!!!!

I had a blast with EDF. Bit repetitive, but some of the missions still had me shouting out loud in excitement.

"Oh god... robot... big robot... RUN RUN RUN!! OH MAN!! IT'S SHOOTING AT ME! AAAAAAHHHH!!!"

[Sagadego]

you forgot a line
edf! edf! edf!
one of my fav. 360 games
also does d3 have a forum?

[Elysion Zero]

The American D3 website doesn't seems to have a forum. It'd be nice to know whether it or Atlus is more likely to release OGs/OGG. The fans long for clarity...well, what few fans care anymore. However! It's in the spirit of pre-OG Super Robot Taisen to carry the torch for a US release for years! And for games that may be a licensing nightmare and have an even smaller chance of being brought over! Because real men don't take no for an answer. Especially not when it comes to giant robots or kamen rider. Except when kamen rider is butchered and americanized like power rangers. Then it's clearly a "do not want." But as long as OGs has its original japanese music and dialogue then the torch will never burn out, for it is lit by the hotblooded spirit of mecha fans in the US, Europe and any other country where people understand english but not japanese.

[Purgeon]

you forgot a line
edf! edf! edf!
one of my fav. 360 games
also does d3 have a forum?

Beautiful line! I love when they chant that. I really could play EDF till i turned blue. The sheer amount of weapons you can find is nothing short of amazing.

[growlanservoter]

What is d3's website so i can email them. I am also wondering if we are gonna see SRT Neo?

[sdragon21]

here you go growlanservoter:
www.d3publisher.us

[Yet Another Tim]

Afterthought: Wait...what's this about D3 and them releasing games for Bandai Namco? Are we suggesting this in the right place?

Well, Namco Bandai owns 95% of D3 and as a result, the latter is releasing Blue Dragon: Awakened Shadow in America, as Namco Bandai published it in Japan.

[Elysion Zero]

Hmm...the safe bet is still that Atlus is still the most likely to publish OGs and OGG. For that reason, we must get this topic to 100 pages somehow. What awesome things about OGs and OGG haven't been discussed in this topic yet?

[growlanservoter]

coolio thaks mate.

[OmegaZero]

Let's see here... This button?....

Well, Let's just add me to one of the fans and supporters of the great Super Robot Wars franchise. I'd gladly pay any price to get OGs, OG:Gaiden, in fact, ANY Super Robot Wars game translated and purchasable in english!

[sdragon21]

It would be so awesome if they announced OG's during the week of christmas (Just sayin atlus...)

[Elysion Zero]

An announcement for OGs would be awesome at any time of the year. Now releasing it near Christmas, that would be awesome.

[growlanservoter]

If a christmas anouncenment was forthcoming I think we would have had it by now. :( Maybe the release announcement for next year will come for christmas though. :)

[growlanservoter]

I am on my second playthrough of MX and I decided to use dendoh this time around and I have the Unicorn drill and the lion disk availabe but how do i equip them i cant seem to find the sub menue that allows me to do this like in Alpha 3 or OGS and OGG

[Elysion Zero]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/919293/31061
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/919293/30537

You'll find menu guides in those two FAQs. And this topic is getting far too tame. Unruly mobs are the most persuasive when it comes to screwing things up and getting things done.

A mass email campaign wouldn't hurt either. So ITT let's start the INTERNETS FOR OGS MILITIA! Because anyone can be a militia, so says the second amendment.

[growlanservoter]

Ah but ATLUS doesn't answer to Lobbying or demands in fact they hate that so say their second rule. ;P Thanks for the links mate. Back on topic what your highest damage out put using any of the twin attacks. Mine is Kyouske and Excelen's rampage ghost at 70000 iish dmg. thats max infight and gunfight attacker and max pile bunker and blaster X and maybe a critical as well :D seconded by twin bird strike at 50,000 ish

[Elysion Zero]

Isn't the topic suggesting OGs rather than discussing it? And my max is around 5000ish. I didn't get far in the game before region locking prevented me from using codebreaker without swap magic which screwed it up. Atlus doesn't want me to enjoy OGs. And that's terrible.

Edit: Axel and Alfimi are dead by the end of GBA OG2. They're alive in EF2. Will Atlus do translation magic if the game doesn't explain what happened in the time gap, or will they release OGs and OGG before EF2? Or will they cop out completely and release the game as it is no matter what? GENTLEMENT, PLACE YOUR BETS! I'm betting Atlus will cop out. OGs was released more than 2 years ago and there's no word whatsoever about it. If they're keeping it a secret, it's pointless and only causes fans to think less of them. It's something they should be putting on a billboard that says "No other publisher is as manly and hotblooded as we are."

[growlanservoter]

Applause encore encore :D
On a serious note game faqs has the main story plot of OGG as an FAQ check it out :)

[Elysion Zero]

It's not the same. Reading it alone or glancing back and forth while playing are nowhere near as accurate as being able to read the dialogue as you play through the game. The jokes, the wit, the battle speeches. ALL OF IT IS LOST! And that's terrible. FAQs aren't a substitute for playing the actual game, only a guide to help one get through said game. A FAQ can't replace a full english translation of OGs and OGG.

[Shunyata]

I believe in the ps2 versions Axel is still alive at the end of the ogs. I know this sounds contradictory, but i remember a few people in japan did not like how they went so for the ps2 they added scenarios that tells a slightly different story.





LoCalize SUPer Robot Wars OrIGiNal GenERatIOns PoR FaVoR

[Shunyata]

Im not sure if you can save Elfimi though???

[Elysion Zero]

Yeah, Axel was changed to be a more sympathetic characters who wasn't just a guy obsessed with defeating BEOWULF! by giving him a little bit of a backstory with prequel stages in OGs OG2 along with a starring role in a Sound Drama on the CD that came with the Japanese version of Endless Frontier. Alfimi could be recruited near the end of OG2, but she died shortly after Axel did.

OGG takes their deaths and uses plot magic and save them both. They were playable in Gaiden and now they're in Endless Frontier EXCEED as a single unit.

[sdragon21]

The govenor of california would like to take the time to address atlus bringing over OG & Gaiden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ALySsPXt0

[Shunyata]

Ahhhh who doesnt like plot magic where good characters are brought back to life a la "Gundam Unicorn"....... Amuro and Char.........Superman........CAptain America.....




LocALIze SupER RoBot WarS OrIgInAl GeNeRaTions Por FaVor

[Elysion Zero]

A better question is "who doesn't dig giant robots?" Because Megas made it clear that even chicks dig them.

[growlanservoter]

Its gonna be ahrd to have a fanvase because its always the same 14 people posting in this thread. Axel is awsome awsome awsome. I am sure we will get Endles frontier exceed but OGS and OGG I have a feeling are gonna get the Growlanser treatment. Swept under the rug and ignored. In this economy I cant blame ATLUS for not bringing them over. Had Wall street, government officals, and realitors not messed up everything then I am sure this woulod have seen a US release. Or maybe there is some other reason that maybe ATLUS wanted to bring it over but Bamco said nope. Who knows I am stoked for Exceed though and I will keep playing my import versions.

[sdragon21]

You forgot about the fan translation of SRT Judgement.
Man oh man i can't wait for that.

[growlanservoter]

What system is judgement for?

[Shunyata]

its for gba

[Shunyata]

greatest giant robot of them all is in that game....... God Xeorymer....... That thing needs the proper 2d animation treatment.

[sdragon21]

I've started a thread over at the NISA message boards, and since they are still bringing over PS2 games, i thought it would be cool to ask if they could publish it stateside. Here's a link to the thread, and sign up for the forums to show your support:
http://www.nisamerica.com/forum/index.php?sid=98f2ac06ec5e9cc8738c2c6a7641efba

Remember, Where there is life, there is hope.

[Takara_Kitsune]

No offense, but I didn't really see the point in asking NISA.

And I know I've said nothing for a while, but I agree with a poster on the NISA forums that this thread should have been locked. No, I haven't been in this thread the entire 2 years... honestly, I was here 3 months, then not, but I continue to watch.

It's a good game. Unfortunately it's a very niche game. Not saying Atlus doesn't do that, but they definitely don't do that near the end of a console's lifetime where the odds of getting ignored are higher.

Anyway... if you truly want the game, import it. Go through any means you can to get a Japanese copy of OGs and OGG. But at this point, don't count on any company releasing it.

Gaijinworks won't. (And I don't want them to, it's just going to be more of Victor Ireland's lies. I regard him in the same manner I regard Peter Molyneaux. By that, I mean someone who has good ideas, will never achieve them, and should shut up about them).

Atlus won't. Look, I hate to be the one to say it. But the reason Atlus isn't closing the thread is because they feel there would be backlash from those that have participated this long. (And because I think they didn't mind having a place to discuss this, but it's clear the game is over. The miracle never happen, etc.)

NISA won't. Sorry to burst your bubble, but NISA takes up a lot of Gust titles, and a few niche titles that are made by Gust's partners. Yeah, there have been pairings that were odder (Sega + NISA for Sakura Wars)... but I honestly have to say, that they've got their own schedule, and it doesn't involve SRW: OGs or OGG.

Capcom won't, either. Sorry, but that's a definite no. Capcom has enough of their own stuff to focus on.

XSeed does localize oddities, and I admit that SRW is right up their alley. But they totally won't. They also have their own things to focus on, and I know that they're pretty much a 'one or two projects at a time' studio. I don't believe this would be profitable for them, and I'm sure they agree.

Ignition is a no, also. Sorry, just... no. They take up niche titles, but they're not going to take SRW: OGs/OGG.

Essentially, I'm saying... don't count on miracles. And it'll take one for this to happen. I fully expect to get flamed for my comments here. I don't care. I would have been happy to see a localization of SRW: OGs/OGG. But let's face it. PS2 is fast approaching it's end. (And Atlus never said themselves that PS2 games are dead to them... I don't know if that was someone from here that said that on the NISA forums, but Atlus never said it...) Two years is a long time to wait for something. Even longer when it is repeatedly hit with false hopes. I got on this train in what was probably the 7th wave of false hopes. No one reads 3000 posts over to check how many times this happened before. I'm sorry, but the truth is, this will never happen. I don't mean to crush anyone's hopes or dreams, buf I will say that if your hopes and dreams are entirely centered around a game that was not likely to leave Japan... then you need to rethink your priorities. (Or get yourself a Japanese console or a modified one to play imports...)

Anyway... I feel bad. I see this topic, I come back, and... I see that some of you are still hopeful. That's nice. Being hopeful. But for your own good, I say that you should stop hoping here. I don't know how old some of you are, but if you're young enough to have such blind hope for things... I advise you take your hopes and hope for something else... because if you're as young as I imagine you must be to hold out your hopes like this... you are too young to be having your hopes crushed permanently. And yes, I'm a bitter person, I'm a cynic, but I'm realistic. I can't emphasize enough that my goal isn't to destroy anyone's hopes and dreams, but I'd hope that none here are relying on this game being released. Because it's not going to happen.

[Kakizaki]

^There is a lot of wisdom to be found in that post.

[Elysion Zero]

Silly Kakizaki, Super Robot Taisen isn't about E-Wisdom. It's about BOLD HOTBLOODED PASSION, MANLY TEARS AND NEVER GIVING UP! Super Robots are about turning the odds from 0% into 110%. NAY! Into 150%! Hopes and dreams exist for a reason. They're not made of the possible or easily achieved. There's no point in hoping for the inevitable, the doable. Hopes and dreams exist to ignite desire in the face of utter defeat. Among the many mistakes of "wisdom" is that it thinks hope has a limit. That's nothing but the absurdity of a naysayer who doesn't understand the depth of a man's passion. Surely everyone has already shed their manly tears for the loss of OGs and OGG. Now there remains nothing but a steadfast vigor and nothing to lose! Of course, many have simply given up and accepted the utter futility of it. They don't want it bad enough, which is why they're partly to blame for the lack of localizations. Of course if you give up halfway then you're doomed to failure. And all it takes is, what, 5 minutes every day before bed for typing a post supporting an Atlus release of OGs and OG Gaiden? With that level of conviction it's no wonder the fanbase couldn't sway the corporate money making machine into sacrificing some of its profit for our sake. Wisdom, you say? I call it surrender. Because that's what giving up is. Wisdom is the knowledge one can use to succeed, and an admittance of failure is anything but. However, I will thank you for a list of other places to lobby for OGs and OGG.

Gaijinworks
Capcom
XSeed
Ignition

For any that aren't defeatists: WE HAVE OUR ARCHING ORDERS! We may not have the strength or numbers of Anonymous. We may not have the conviction to stand out in the streets in front of Atlus HQ all day wearing Guy Fawkes masks. We may be more like a starving dog that's currently disemboweling itself, eating away at its own existence instead of striving even harder to find the food we so desperately long for. BUT EVEN SO! NONE OF THAT HAS ACCOMPLISHED OUR GOAL! There is still much to do. And at least one person should do it. Otherwise the fanbase isn't worth to even lay their hands upon a Super Robot Taisen game. Not if we're a bunch of quitters. ARE WE A BUNCH OF QUITTERS?! I say nay.

If we were to gather even 300 Super Robot Taisen fans, willing to kill 5 minutes of their time each day for our cause, our numbers would be great enough to fight against any and all challenges that stand in the way of the two greatest PS2 games being localized. And we would succeed. Not because we gave up. Not because we spread out and made meager appeals to publishers. No, it would be because we stood together for a single cause. The power of human resolve is far greater than any dollar amount. Because together, WE. ARE. SUPER ROBOT FAAAAAAAAAANS! We are few, but our presence is strong. It is as strong as we make it. Because our power comes from hopes and dreams. Our power is the kind that creates miracles!

So I ask you this, fellow posters in this topic and in the Endless Frontier EXCEED topic: Are you fanboys or ARE YOU FANMEN?!

[Tivor]

Silly Kakizaki, Super Robot Taisen isn't about E-Wisdom. It's about BOLD HOTBLOODED PASSION, MANLY TEARS AND NEVER GIVING UP! Super Robots are about turning the odds from 0% into 110%. NAY! Into 150%! Hopes and dreams exist for a reason. They're not made of the possible or easily achieved. There's no point in hoping for the inevitable, the doable. Hopes and dreams exist to ignite desire in the face of utter defeat.

The key difference is that, in Super Robot shows, the characters themselves do the hard work to turn the odds from 0% to 150% and achieve what they want in the face of utter defeat. Sure, there may be some deux ex machina at work here and there, but the key point is that THEY ARE DOING THE HARD WORK THEMSELVES.

In contrast, what you are saying is, "I'm never going to give up until SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO ALL THE HARD WORK FOR ME!!!"

Pretty big difference.

[Elysion Zero]

Point taken. You're right. But what you suggest is more unreasonable than asking a publisher that already has the resources and know how to publish OGs and OGG. Moving on, time to direct the troops. All 1 of them. Myself. And maybe a few stragglers who come out of hiding to shamefully support Super Robot Taisen.

Gaijinworks: webmaster@gaijinworks.com
NISA: Thread Link (http://www.nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20&sid=42e9d172b2161a3d2fcf54688e272377)
Capcom: Thread Link (http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/21991477/Capcom,_can_you_please_localize...)

XSeed & Ignition Entertainment: No forums or simple email contacts. If anyone has any suggestions on what the best way to suggest OGs and OGG to them is, please do speak up.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I get the feeling that if I post in this thread, there's a good chance it'll get locked, so.....

[Elysion Zero]

If it gets locked, we can always make a new one. Feel free to post here as well as at the NISA and Capcom threads. The more support the better. It's only hopeless if SRT fans are hopeless.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Eh... I tried.

And I'm not a defeatist, I'm realistic. Have fun not playing the game. >.>

[Kakizaki]

But what you suggest is more unreasonable than asking a publisher that already has the resources and know how to publish OGs and OGG.

No it is not. It is probably more reasonable for you to simply learn Japanese. Problem solved.

You realize that almost all of us that have been here for some time have had games that we desperately want localized, but Atlus USA just wasn't able to do them. Some of those requested titles had been later installments of series in which the first title had been published here previously, only for us not to see the sequel.

People also lobbied for said titles, but the main difference was that these people were smart enough to realize a few things. Namely that Atlus USA was a business that had to make sound business decisions - like localizing a title that could generate a profit. Also, they may have been smart enough to understand that there were many factors outside of Atlus USA's control - licensing, permission to publish title on platform, etc....

[Elysion Zero]

Brilliant. I should learn Japanese instead of wanting a game localized. Then I guess I don't need to buy Atlus games. Such great advice that if everyone followed it Atlus would see lower profits. "HEY YOU, INSTEAD OF BOTHERING US TO DO WHAT WE DO GO LEARN TO NOT NEED US TO DO IT!" I lol'd hard at the message you've sent. And not just for that reason.

Even if I did go on to learn Japanese, that wouldn't solve the practical problem I have with the Japanese copies of the game. I repeat: Problem Not Solved. Codebreaker won't work with either of them using swapmagic. No, it's not just about learning Japanese. It's about getting a modchip and screwing around with my PS2. That, or I need to get a Japanese PS2 and possibly a Japanese codebreaker if the one I have doesn't work with it. I need to shell out money for that and put in god knows how many hours of time and effort to learn Japanese and become proficient enough in it to understand every word, every character in Super Robot Taisen. And all because Atlus, localizer of games, doesn't want to localize games that act as both sequels and prequels to the games in the series that they're probably going to continue to release. It makes sense, sure. But only enough to make me just utterly speechless.

Now luckily for me, I'm not smart enough to understand that there are factors outside of Atlus USA's control. I've heard nothing even remotely specific regarding these uncontrollable factors, so I can only assume that they don't exist. All I know is that they've brought over every OG title except for the two PS2 ones, and the most distinct message I get is that they don't think it'll be profitable enough. As a Super Robot Taisen fan who'll pre-order both on day one, it's hard for such a message to resonate within my thick skull when even defeatists "creating a self-fulfilling prophecy" (read: accepting the defeat they create by accepting it) are talking about how they'd be happy if the games were localized.

They don't have the actual sales figures of a single localized console SRW to support their claims that it wouldn't be profitable. They're aparently only going by the profit of handheld games. Not that they didn't do an awesome job at localizing them, but at the end of the day a handheld game isn't as balls-to-the-wall and graphically pleasing as a console game. It's only reasonable to come to the conclusion that a comparison of sales for games of different type and quality would favor the console game. And logically, if they were the same game then the only conclusion to come to is that the game with superior quality would sell that much better. Now I don't have all the Atlus sales figures and estimates and what not. I can only use logic and reason to come to conclusions regarding profitability. And when both are screaming the exact opposite of what Atlus is telling me, their words just seem like a bunch of nonsense that's unsupported by any sort of publically known fact or figure while almost disregarding the superior quality of OGs and OGG when compared to the quality of OG1, OG2 and EF1 combined.

To summarize: I'm an idiot whose problem wouldn't be solved by learning Japanese. Thus, I continue to take the position that Atlus should kick logic and reason to the curb by localizing OGs and OGG.

[Tivor]

I need to shell out money for that and put in god knows how many hours of time and effort to learn Japanese and become proficient enough in it to understand every word, every character in Super Robot Taisen.

The alternative is Atlus shelling out money and put in god knows how many hours of time and effort to localize the game, for an endeavor that all but promises poor profitability.

Guess which option is more viable for Atlus.

Seriously, you're only being selfish here. If you are that serious about Super Robot philosophy of "never giving up, turning odds from 0% to 150%", etc, etc, etc, then man up and learn Japanese and take other necessary measures to ensure that you get to enjoy the games. Be a fanman, as you put it.



at the end of the day a handheld game isn't as balls-to-the-wall and graphically pleasing as a console game. It's only reasonable to come to the conclusion that a comparison of sales for games of different type and quality would favor the console game. And logically, if they were the same game then the only conclusion to come to is that the game with superior quality would sell that much better.

Yes, that's exactly why Nintendo DS is still the best-selling platform over Xbox360 and PS3. COMBINED.

[Kakizaki]

Brilliant. I should learn Japanese instead of wanting a game localized. Then I guess I don't need to buy Atlus games. Such great advice that if everyone followed it Atlus would see lower profits. "HEY YOU, INSTEAD OF BOTHERING US TO DO WHAT WE DO GO LEARN TO NOT NEED US TO DO IT!" I lol'd hard at the message you've sent. And not just for that reason.

Even if I did go on to learn Japanese, that wouldn't solve the practical problem I have with the Japanese copies of the game. I repeat: Problem Not Solved. Codebreaker won't work with either of them using swapmagic. No, it's not just about learning Japanese. It's about getting a modchip and screwing around with my PS2. That, or I need to get a Japanese PS2 and possibly a Japanese codebreaker if the one I have doesn't work with it. I need to shell out money for that and put in god knows how many hours of time and effort to learn Japanese and become proficient enough in it to understand every word, every character in Super Robot Taisen. And all because Atlus, localizer of games, doesn't want to localize games that act as both sequels and prequels to the games in the series that they're probably going to continue to release. It makes sense, sure. But only enough to make me just utterly speechless.First, you can dispense with some of the smart aleck comments. You are kind of treading on some dangerous ground.

Second, do you realize how completely selfish you sound? Do you?

Why would a company want to drain money into a product it loses money on? A handful of people that desperately desire a product does not equate to rational reason to release a product.

Your comments / threats regarding no longer buying Atlus products are silly dude, seriously. I've already asked you what previous Atlus titles you had purchased and what future Atlus titles you were interested in. You've made it abundantly clear that your scope of interest is incredibly narrow. You most likely aren't interested in anything Atlus publishes outside of the SRT products save for a few obscure pokemon-like mecha titles available in the past. I don't think I need to put 2 and 2 together.

Third - Learning another language would benefit you beyond just enabling you to play SRT/SRW titles in their native language.

Fourth - Yes, buy a Japanese PS2. That is what I did. If you had that, why on earth would you need a Codebreaker? You are only trying to over complicate the matter to make it seem as though you are suffering through some great plight. You aren't. These are only video games.

The amount of money you have to spend in comparison to Atlus is minuscule and the benefit to loss ratio is also much higher.

Heck, you could use some of the time you are dawdling away here to start studying.

Like I said before in this thread, you aren't the first one here that has been in a similar position, and you probably won't be the last. I myself have felt the same way at times, but logic has to sink in at some point.

I will say you are making excellent headway into getting this thread locked.

[Zantagor]

Fourth - Yes, buy a Japanese PS2. That is what I did. If you had that, why on earth would you need a Codebreaker? You are only trying to over complicate the matter to make it seem as though you are suffering through some great plight. You aren't. These are only video games.

The amount of money you have to spend in comparison to Atlus is minuscule and the benefit to loss ratio is also much higher.

Heck, you could use some of the time you are dawdling away here to start studying.

Like I said before in this thread, you aren't the first one here that has been in a similar position, and you probably won't be the last. I myself have felt the same way at times, but logic has to sink in at some point.

I will say you are making excellent headway into getting this thread locked.


Or get an HD/USB Loader, buy the game, transfer the disc on ISO format then on the device.

As for learning the language, you'd be surprised at how fast you can start picking up words if you put a minimum of effort into it.

I was playing Tales of Graces the other day, and I surprised myself understanding almost 1/3rd of what was being said during the intro.


If I had the technical know-how on hacking PS2 games for translation, I would gladly try it.

Best way to learn the language in the process ;)

[Purgeon]

"First, you can dispense with some of the smart aleck comments. You are kind of treading on some dangerous ground."

Oh look at this, whenever some one doesnt share the opinion of a mod, they are treading on dangerous ground. You can say hes wasting his time but he cant defend himself with a bit of sarcasm and a hint of anger? Its so nice to see things never change on he internet.

Zero I gotta say, lost hope in this way long ago, but man i gotta hand it to you, you gotta way with the hot-blood! Keep fighting and dont ever look back, no matter what anyone says.

[Tivor]

"First, you can dispense with some of the smart aleck comments. You are kind of treading on some dangerous ground."

Oh look at this, whenever some one doesnt share the opinion of a mod, they are treading on dangerous ground. You can say hes wasting his time but he cant defend himself with a bit of sarcasm and a hint of anger? Its so nice to see things never change on he internet.

Zero I gotta say, lost hope in this way long ago, but man i gotta hand it to you, you gotta way with the hot-blood! Keep fighting and dont ever look back, no matter what anyone says.

Have you even read through the thread?

There is a difference between expressing one's opinion, and incessantly pushing that opinion onto others even after all the useful discussion has been done. What Elysion Zero is doing is the latter. There has to be a point in any civil discussion when people go, "ok, I said my piece, you said your piece, let's agree to disagree." Expressing one's opinion does not equal "I won't stop until you agree with me," especially if that said opinion is just a big ball of stubborn selfishness.

[slayn]

This thread. This thread!

[Elysion Zero]

So someone went and deleted the post above this, making the beginning paragraph of this post nonsensical. In its place, please enjoy these brief relevant youtube videos:

Great combinations or greatest combinations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UZoxD15pY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLVNpBBuoTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMxI9s255fM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g453nb5QOME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BI4UD1V198

SECRET UNIT: Gespenst Mk.II Type-MS (Meat Shield)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2sB7DGZjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMbbq2NtZ2g

On another note, I can't help but lol when asked why I'd need a Codebreaker if I had a Japanese PS2. It's obviously because I'm not a real fan due to the fact that I use cheat codes. But I'll chalk that up to mistaking swap magic for codebreaker. Anyway!

I suppose there just isn't enough fan support to make any difference. One person advocating a release will, of course, be told to suck it up and learn Japanese. As one lacking the e-social skills to gather numbers, the will to devote a huge portion of time to learning another language for just two games or the desire to shell out more money just to play something I can't understand...I guess I'll throw in the towel as well and thank Atlus for dismissing the entirety of the english speaking Super Robot Taisen fanbase as so insignificant that we wouldn't even be worth selling OGs and OGG to. As if that isn't the greatest insult a company can issue to a paying demographic.

Of course, I'll probably pick the towel back up, tie it around my e-head and resume advocacy during future random influxes of interested fans. At least if there are any. One can only hope that this topic continues for the next two years. Now it's just a matter of waiting for EF2 to be localized before another round of "OGs and OGG are awesome games of the same series that would be totally worth localizing." Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna take my Guava soda break.

[slayn]

It's just a game, dude. Stop taking this so personally.

[Elysion Zero]

Super Robot's are a man's soul. And the internets is Serious Business.

[growlanservoter]

Zero chill mate we all feel your pain but the time you spend demanding here is time you could be using playing the game lol. Any how I am on my fourth playthrough of OGG and I have to say after 4 years of watching Subbed anime and spending the last year playing SRT games I understand Japanese alot more than I did before I started playing. Learnng Japanese doesn't have to be a painstaking path that you cram all at once. Just take your time to try and understand it. Patience and Perseverance are the greatest of virtues (Just ask all the SRT pilots). Just take every point of view. I am in the same boat as you in that I want a miricale to happen. But as Kakizake stated everyone of us has felt this pain of not getting a game they wanted translated. But try to put yourself in ATLUS's shoes. They tried OG1 and OG2 at the end of th GBA life and both did ok but neither warrented enough profit from what I hear to make it worth the time to try it again. Plus its not like the games or a japanse ps2 are hard to find or overexpensive. Ebay has some decent prices on Used SRT games that are still in top notch condition. I say play your SRT and when the PS3 Srt is released Lobby for it. OGS and OGG are Japanese and are to remain such. I haven't given up hope but I have seen the logic in Atlus not releasing the games. The way our econpmy is now ATLUS can't throw themselves to the sharks for a few fans. Besides if they go under bringing us OGS and OGG who is going to release EF2. Bandai Namco hehehehehahahahaahaBWHAHAHAHAHAAHA don't make me laugh. I own OGS and OGG and I love them for what they are. Its time to lock this thread it was an awsome thrill ride but now tis time to lobby for EF2. That game deserves a chance to shine now. Moving on.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Okay, well. Zero. I just want to say... I realize you are passionate about it. And that's fine. But I think it's clear you're putting a bit much into this.

Anyway, I'll say this: One, I don't have a ton of money either, but I managed to chip my PS2 (If you're not skilled at soldering, don't even try it...) and I got OGs and OGG. (In the process, I got a few other games that I wanted, as well...)

I'm not going to say I don't know any Japanese, but my skill is limited. I can't read most kanji, and I can only phonetically read kana. And yet I still manage to play the game alright. Yeah, I know, "But how can you enjoy the game without the story?". Well, that's what story guides are for... and even as someone who comes off as knowing a lot about Japanese and Japanese games (meaning I get confused for some sort of otaku) I really am not some Japanese-games only purist.

And I will say this also. Even with the suggestion to learn Japanese, I would like to point out that even if I could speak and read Japanese fluently, I would still prefer to play my games in English when available.

Anyway. Yeah... I feel it's clear that this topic has been allowed to go on too long. I remember when I first came to this topic, I didn't read the pages I missed. Which was 2 years worth of pages. I thought that new developments had come. But looking it over, I realize that what I truly missed... was every E3, every TGS, every PAX... every time a damn games convention happened... this topic surged with speculation on the "big announcement" of this game.

And yet it never happened. And to be honest, it never will, from any publisher in the US. I'm sorry if that truth hurts anyone, but yeah, it's the truth. It's a good game. But it's a niche game. And it's a niche that Atlus can't afford to cater to. To be honest, if Atlus were to go for another SRW title, I'd want it to be Endless Frontier Exceed. And in all likelihood, if anyone does release it, it will be Atlus. But I don't think anyone else will be picking up the other titles. OGs, OGG, or any of the non-Original Generation SRW games will ever be released in America. And don't think of using Tatsunoko vs Capcom as an example of why a non-OG game will come, because that one had interesting circumstances that I really hope one day will come to light for those of us that didn't catch them.

Anyway. Long story short: We were lucky to get OG1 and OG2. I am glad Atlus chose to release them. But fact of the matter is, a lot of what's in Japan stays in Japan. If it doesn't come, that's not reason to get mad. It's reason to do something about it for yourself. I've dealt with Namco Bandai and their stupid release policies for years. You know what I did about it? I began importing the Tales games that weren't to come here. And I'm much happier for it, instead of relying on a publisher in the US localizing it.

Fact is, sometimes you've just got to help yourself. And in this case, no one else is going to be able to help you here. You can learn Japanese and get yourself a Japanese or modified PS2, as well as the Japanese versions, which at most will cost you the price of the games, the PS2, and the books you learn from... or expect some company to sink a couple million into localizing the game. I think it's clear which is more likely to happen. And sorry, but as far as companies having a lot of money, remember Atlus isn't Square-Enix. They do have a limited budget.

[Elysion Zero]

1. This discussion is still on the topic of OGs. Thus, the topic shouldn't be locked. And even if it was locked, another would appear. OGs has been on the first page of this forum for what I assume is the entirety of 2 years. We've at least gotta hit the four year mark before talking about calling it quits. Remember OG1? Released 4 years after it came out in Japan. If we stop short of that, we'll never know whether Atlus would have changed their mind once this economic mess that "sound business practices" (read: the desire to make money) caused starts winding down as capital begins to flow from banks back into the economy. Because it will happen. Sometime within the next two years. I hope.......HOWARD DEAN FOR 2012! Because balls can solve both the economy and our lack of OGs and OGG. Because when the former gets better so do the chances of Atlus setting profit aside to finish what they started. Also, I assume that as time goes by games will get cheaper to publish. Which I hope happens to OGs and OGG within the next 2 years as well.

2. Unless the PS3 SRT is released before Atlus decides a console is dead, then there's no point in lobbying for it. Unless it's an OG game. But considering that most SRT games for the consoles are crossovers, there's probably no need to even bring the PS3 SRT up until it even has a name.

3. Don't kid yourselves. I know that there's no chance Atlus will bring OGs and OGG over. The difference between us is that I don't let it stop me from lobbying for it anyway. Why not? Its chances can't go anywhere but up, and doing something feels better than doing nothing and wallowing in defeat.

4. And don't kid yourselves about EF2 either. It's ok to lobby for it, no, it's good to lobby for it. But it should be done with the knowledge that it's almost a sure thing. They haven't missed a handheld OG game, only the two console ones that are awesome and a stain on their record of localizing SRT. EF2 doesn't really need the same type of dedicated lobbying that OGs and OGG do. One can also lobby for all three. There's no rule that you have to choose one.

5. Tatsunoko vs Capcom...non-OG titles...what you talkin' 'bout Willis? OGs and OGG don't have all the extra licensing fees that would require the fanbase to be mainstream. Even at a 0% chance of Atlus localizing them, their chances are still better than non-OG titles. If OGs and OGG are deemed to be not profitable, non-OG titles must be considered a money pit. Although in Taisen's defense, Atlus hasn't sold a single console SRT game. Their entire argument for a lack of profitability is based on speculation and stores not stocking the game despite the fact that online retailers exist through which the game can be sold. Companies may call stuff like that "sound business practices." People who believe in God call it "Religion." Me? I'm a man of fact and evidence. I call it "BS." So I guess...by my logic non-OG titles would be worth bringing over. But only because OGs and OGG sales haven't proven otherwise. Because they were never given the chance to exist. And that's terrible.

6. So I'm looking at a site that's telling me Persona 4 sold worse in Japan than OGs and only beat it in sales because it was localized in America. Can anyone confirm or disprove this? Because if this is true, it stands to reason that OGs would've topped Persona 4's worldwide numbers had Atlus localized it as well. And that would mean Atlus has been lying to us about poor sales. Or that they're wrong. Or that I'm wrong. Still! In Japan the market is saturated with Super Robot Taisen games. And both markets are saturated with RPGs. But the American market is not saturated with Super Robot Taisen. So it stands to reason that all SRT fans would buy the game.

I feel cheated by the corporate moneymaking machine that localized the worse-selling Persona 4 instead of the better selling OGs and its sequel OG Gaiden. It's just like when I got a box of mcnuggets where one had a part bitten off. It should not be. IT SHOULD NOT BE! And yet it is. Which is why we need to organize a protest in front of Atlus HQ wearing GESPENSTO masks and holding up stereos playing Rocks loudly. As absurd as it sounds...we all know it'd totally work. Because it would disprove Atlus' conclusion that the games would not sell.

[slayn]

6. So I'm looking at a site that's telling me Persona 4 sold worse in Japan than OGs and only beat it in sales because it was localized in America.

You just really don't get how businesses work, do you?

Find some numbers that show what Persona 4 sold in America versus the SRT games that have been localized. That's what is important to Atlus. I would not find it at all surprising if Persona 4 beat out all three SRT games combined. It is simply not a popular series in this country. You need to live with that and stop this incessant rambling.

[Elysion Zero]

You just really don't get how businesses work, do you?

Obviously.

Find some numbers that show what Persona 4 sold in America versus the SRT games that have been localized. That's what is important to Atlus. I would not find it at all surprising if Persona 4 beat out all three SRT games combined.

Neither would I. I've been saying all along that the console games would sell better than the handhelds. Using the sales of apples and oranges to figure out how well watermelons sell just seems absurd, and even downright utterly ridiculous when put into metaphor form. If Persona 4 did sell better than SRT handhelds, then that just goes to support my own point. The fact that that handhelds are the standard by which Atlus judges what the sales of a console game will be just seems like they're not even giving SRT a fighting chance. If this site is anywhere near correct, then handhelds are no indication due to the fact that Devil Survivor for the DS had about 1/3 the sales of Persona 4 in America. If they applied the handheld's figure to the console game's would they have still deemed Persona 4 profitable enough?

It is simply not a popular series in this country. You need to live with that and stop this incessant rambling.

There'd be no need for incessant rambling if the plublically stated logic behind the denial of OGs and OGG's localization didn't seem fundamentally flawed. Comparing handhelds to console games? Measuring popularity? Speculating on how profitable something will be without even a similar product to compare it to? Comparing them to localized handheld games rather than other console games that had similar sales numbers in Japan? It's no wonder I don't get how businesses work. It doesn't seem to make any rational or reasonable sense. It seems like a big bunch of guesswork based on things that may not even be relevant or that may be relevant to a completely different extent than Atlus would have me believe. Just thinking about how they'd get an accurate measure of a game's profit using those standards makes my head hurt. But then again, it's probably not about an accurate measure. It seems like nothing more than "LOWER BUDGET HANDHELDS NOT SELL WELL. ATLUS SMASH CHANCES OF MUCH BETTER CONSOLE VERSION AND SEQUEL! ATLUS PUBLISH SPINOFFS INSTEAD. FANS NOT GIVE ATLUS ENOUGH MONEY WHEN THEY HAVE CHANCE TO. ATLUS NO WANT RELEASE GAME WITH BACKSTORY FOR CHARACTERS IN SPINOFF SEQUEL."

...I think I just died a little inside. INTERNETS!

[slayn]

I hope this thread is around forever. It is such a wonderful little goldmine of crazy.

[Olethros]

6. So I'm looking at a site that's telling me Persona 4 sold worse in Japan than OGs and only beat it in sales because it was localized in America.

You just really don't get how businesses work, do you?

Find some numbers that show what Persona 4 sold in America versus the SRT games that have been localized. That's what is important to Atlus. I would not find it at all surprising if Persona 4 beat out all three SRT games combined. It is simply not a popular series in this country. You need to live with that and stop this incessant rambling.

He stopped making sense days ago. He's using circular logic and an attempt (and a poor one at that) at eloquent speech to both justify and cover-up what has become blatant flame baiting. He only continues this nonsense because he managed to get a response by the admins the first few times. If everyone stops playing along now, he'll get bored and go away. Childish people always do.

[Elysion Zero]

Circular logic is the best kind of logic when regular logic utterly and completely fails to accomplish anything. And it keeps the topic active. By George Bush's standards, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Something had been done. The goal hasn't been met, but at least someone's still chugging along supporting an OGs release. Because characters with phallic themed weapons are so much more awesome when their manly speeches are vocalized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1uCdfK1tE

And now we're on our way to page 68. Let's aim for 100, because then we win the forums. COMRADES! Let us join hands and charge towards the finish line.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

[slayn]

I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Traitor!

[Onion of Mystery]

I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Traitor!

You know who else were traitors? Sanger and Elzam! Look how they turned out!

[Sseklebeast]

I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

Lol not all of us are fanatics like this guy! :P

Yes, I'd love to play OGS/OGG in English but I know it's not happening. I'm glad that I can still enjoy the Japanese version even if I don't know how to read it. There is a story breakdown that tells you everything that is going on, per mission, on gamefaqs so I'll settle for that.

On a slightly unrelated note, I'm real excited for SRW J's fan translation! :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

Lol not all of us are fanatics like this guy! :P

Yes, I'd love to play OGS/OGG in English but I know it's not happening. I'm glad that I can still enjoy the Japanese version even if I don't know how to read it. There is a story breakdown that tells you everything that is going on, per mission, on gamefaqs so I'll settle for that.

On a slightly unrelated note, I'm real excited for SRW J's fan translation! :D

Same here

[Takara_Kitsune]

I love how my mention of non-OG SRW somehow was taken as "OMG NO SRW EVAR".

I never said there were licensing issues with OGs or OGG. The only licensing issue would be to get the license from Namco Bandai themself. Which I will say right now is an unusual case all around. But at this point, the chances are actually nil of it being worth Atlus or any other company's time.

No company will ever put out a press release that says, "Okay, well, PS2 is dead to us..." The only company with the right to declare the PS2 'dead' is Sony themselves. Everyone else's job in the lifecycle is to just slow down their PS2 development and move on to development for other consoles. Note that Sega never said the Dreamcast was dead. But don't count on any official support from Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo/Sega if you want to develop on one of their discontinued systems. Sony is set to discontinue formal support on the PS2 in 2012, if I'm not mistaken. So by all means, Elysion, you go ahead and get the rights for the game and publish it in English yourself. Clearly that's the only way you're going to see the game in English. (Or if a fan translation group does it. I believe somene is working on it, but... yeah, you're not going to see one on the store shelf. Ever.)

I love SRW still despite the complete and total lack of logic out of Elysion Zero. It's somewhat like the "TALES OF SYMPHONIA WAS THE FIRST TALES GAME EVER AMIRITE GUYZ" people. It's annoying, but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of Tales of Destiny, Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Eternia, and Tales of Destiny 2.

Anyway, all I can say is there will come a time when you realize that the right decision would be to do something for yourself and obtain the game and all for yourself, in Japanese. Honestly, even if I lobbied until hell froze over, that would never have gotten Namco Bandai to release Tales of Destiny 2, Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, Tales of the Tempest, Tales of Innocence, Tales of Hearts, and all the other Tales games that are yet to come but will never be seen outside of Japan. To hope for any more than that is foolish. And I will say, believing every single line of "don't ever give up" that you've heard in a game or anime is never going to work for you. Giving up is sometimes the only option. You want to hold out hope? Be my guest. Just don't expect results.

[Purgeon]

"Super Robot's are a man's soul. And the internets is Serious Business."

I will follow you into the pits of hades itself, Zero! Fight da powa!

[Elysion Zero]

But at this point, the chances are actually nil of it being worth Atlus or any other company's time.

When apparently the majority of the fanbase has given up, of course it's not going to be worth their time.

I love SRW still despite the complete and total lack of logic out of Elysion Zero. It's somewhat like the "TALES OF SYMPHONIA WAS THE FIRST TALES GAME EVER AMIRITE GUYZ" people. It's annoying, but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of Tales of Destiny, Tales of Phantasia, Tales of Eternia, and Tales of Destiny 2.
I think I now hate SRT because of this guy. I don't even want to be known as part of the fanbase.

Something's wrong if you have to actually mention that people on the internets don't affect your enjoyment of games. Or you're enjoying games for the wrong reasons. Either way, I'd appreciate nobody pinning their dislike of Super Robot Taisen on me. If you're really a fan of Super Robot Taisen, at the very least you're not just going to start hating it because someone's still holding a torch for localizations of two games for not even as long as it took Atlus to release OG after its Japanese release. I'd go even further to say that if you're really a fan of Super Robot Taisen, you could take 5 minutes out of your day to hold your own torch as well.

People seem to misunderstand something. It's obvious, yet apparently it hasn't sunk in. Arguing that it's pointless to continue lobbying for Super Robot Taisen works against Super Robot Taisen localizations and makes efforts pointless. No real fan would consistently go out of their way to work against Super Robot Taisen. It's the very opposite of being a fan. I may use some crazy logic, but at least I can claim to be a fan without being accused of undermining the very thing I'm a fan of. Although, you do have a point. I wouldn't want to be known as part of the fanbase either if the fanbase believes that it's better to quit than continue supporting Super Robot Taisen. That kind of fanbase reminds me of watching Democrats on MSNBC. The only word that comes to mind is "incompetence." Because I can't think of anything else to describe the majority of the fanbase advocating someone stop supporting the very thing their fans of. It's a complete contradiction that defies the fanbase's very existence. It kicks logic and reason to the curb in the worst way possible. And it completely explains why the fanbase has thus far failed to be convincing enough to warrant localizations of OGs and OGG. However, knowing that doesn't make it any less of a bitter pill to swallow.

Honestly, even if I lobbied until hell froze over, that would never have gotten Namco Bandai to release Tales of Destiny 2, Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, Tales of the Tempest, Tales of Innocence, Tales of Hearts, and all the other Tales games that are yet to come but will never be seen outside of Japan.

Did you even try lobbying until hell froze over? You may be right, but many people lobbying until hell froze over is far more convincing than a single person. If everyone unites without any of the "fanbase" trying to argue against success, then the chances of accomplishing something skyrocket.

To hope for any more than that is foolish. And I will say, believing every single line of "don't ever give up" that you've heard in a game or anime is never going to work for you. Giving up is sometimes the only option. You want to hold out hope? Be my guest. Just don't expect results.

Hope is what allows humanity to continue to exist. It gives us reason to live. To argue against hope is to argue for despair. And that's what sounds foolish.

Giving up may be an option now, but it isn't the only option. As long as there is still a Game Suggestions forum and a Super Robot Taisen Original Generations topic open, we will always have the option to continue appealing to Atlus. I do want to hold out hope. And I hope that you and every other fan will do the same. It's not about expecting results. It's about strongly expressing our desires to the extent that it creates results. Obviously I don't expect that to happen, not with the defeatist attitude that seems to have swept over the majority of the fanbase. HOWEVER! Someone has to have the RB-79K Balls to not just give up because Atlus says we should. To heck with what Atlus says. As fans, we should make it about what we say. Because ultimately showing the strength of the fanbase is what increases the chances of any game localization.

Arguments in favor of quitting have no meaning when it's those very arguments that create a reason to quit. I for one won't be part of that cycle. I reject that option and all that it stands for. I still want Atlus to localize OGs and OGG and you should, too. Thank you and good night.

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