Super Robot Taisen:Original Generations

[Takara_Kitsune]

Okay, well... too lazy to hit the quote buttons, so... I'll reply the old fashioned way...

Tatsuya, I'm sorry to hear that your PS3 is unrepairable. I actually have another recommendation for you. It will sound dumb, but hear me out. Instead of getting another backwards-compatible PS3, get a slim PS2, and then try to get a PS3 that isn't backwards-compatible as a last resort if you can't find one.

From what I'm able to determine, by the way, is that PS2 won't die by the end of the year, but... in the US, it's on the way out for sure. I noticed Atlus only announced games that were on current-gen consoles, meaning not the PS2.

I know Atlus released EF, and I'm grateful for that... honestly, it was what got me into the series. Which is kinda dumb, why should I be upset about a game I seriously waited a month for? The rest of you have been potentially waiting longer... but I really kinda just fell in with the series. I'll get a game that's something new to me, and I'll become obsessed. SRT was one of those games. Last game to manage making me obsessed would be the Zoids Saga series, and before that Tales. And considering the last new Zoids Saga game was released in 2005, you can tell it's a rare occurrence for me to get really into something. Ironically, we don't see many Zoids games in the US anyway, so I've already been importing those. I suppose it's time to start importing more SRT while I'm at it.

Sdragon, I see you have the best intentions with what you've said. However, Atlus didn't exactly let us down. I suppose the deal is, I think they would have released OGs and OGG. But... the profit potential isn't there. As a business, Atlus needs to do what they can to make money. I think the amount of work for the SRT games would probably cost them too much for little return. Fact is, Atlus can't please everyone. But they do their best to, I think. I don't think XSEED would take SRT, by the way... because I don't think Atlus has given up on the series, and they own the trademark in the US. Let's just say that's a whole new level of litigation that no party wants involved in.

Zeta Nova, I... don't really understand why you insist on selling your PS2. I would recommend holding on to it. Even moreso because you hardly get anything for trading it in. I hear you get $30 for it. That's not even a tenth of the PS3 value! I think Atlus didn't say anything about this because, while SRT is huge for us, it's not for the overall. Let's be honest, most people that follow Atlus follow Atlus for Shin Megami Tensei. Atlus gave news about that. Now, on NISA, well... I would point out that they are actually not as consistent as you say. Atelier games have been released very randomly. When NISA releases a game, it often carries some sort of bug, often one that didn't exist in the Japanese version. Atlus does their damnedest to make sure as many bugs as possible are squashed before release. Anyway, point is, taking cheap shots at Atlus won't exactly help the cause of getting anything you'd want from them in the future. As far as "Thanks for nothing"... no, that's not true. They have given us a lot, for the most part. I don't think any other publisher would have been crazy enough to release the two GBA SRT:OG games. Anyway, also take note on the NISA comparison... all of the SRPGs they have released without fail are Gust. Atlus releases games from multiple developers.

To anyone else that posted with support... well, hey, it was worth a shot. Atlus did say, though, that they never would release a game based on pushing, voting, or petitions... so, it's just the way it is. No SRT: OGs for us, and... you know, it makes me sad, I was kinda down last night over it, but, not much we can do. Thing is, even a glimmer of hope was brought on by the fact that there are companies like Atlus that even bother to release some of these games that would otherwise never see a release outside of Japan. So, more or less, I would say not to hate on Atlus for not announcing or releasing the game... because they have in the past, and continue to release new properties that would otherwise be Japanese-exclusives. That's what they do, I can't ask them to do much more than that.

... of course, this said, I still would have liked for them to release it. But, that is not very likely at all. I'm disappointed, but not at Atlus. Let's remember, there are still other games that Atlus may release in the future in this series... so let's just leave it at that for now.

[Super Robot Fan]

Wow, it is really too bad we wouldn't see these game over here.

[sdragon21]

I really do wish we could get 1 more SRT game over here, be it for any system.

[Super Robot Fan]

Me too, I guess I will live in denial and still hope that this game gets release here. I'll just pretend like I didn't read that article.

[sdragon21]

Me too, I guess I will live in denial and still hope that this game gets release here. I'll just pretend like I didn't read that article.

I know how u feel. It's like watching your pet getting run over right in front of u. I would hate to see tatsuya's post after having him find out that this ain't coming stateside.

[Super Robot Fan]

I know what you mean and it is also too bad that his 60gb PS3 is broken too, getting a 60 gb PS3 now would be pretty hard and expensive.

[sdragon21]

Something just crossed my mind: Couldn't this be ported over to the wii? The wii does have the biggest user base right now, and there are little to no SRPG's on the console (excluding phantom brave and fire emblem.)
Or, mabye they could distribute this game to XBLA and PSN with the help of digital eclipse. For those who don't know, Digital Eclipse have been porting games for quite a while. They've workd on porting Castlevania:SOTN to XBLA and the upcoming Marvel Vs Capcom 2 to both 360 and PS3.

[Super Robot Fan]

Well while that is true, I think the amount of work of having to port it from PS2 to the Wii may have some complications. Even if there isn't any complications, we don't know what the cost of they doing this will be. If the cost outweighs their benefit, they will probably not.

But who knows only they do and there is also a chance even if it is 0.001%.

[Zeta_Nova]

Also Capcom's chances of having Tatsunoko was slim as well. But here, the mechs in this game are mostly comprised of original characters piloting them.

And, I also want to apologize to you guys. I was totally out of line laying down what I may've said earlier. It's just that I was really wanting this game to come to our side. And with numerous SRPGs coming this year (by NISA). Namely Disgaea 2's resurrected (and enhanced) PSP version. Then there's P.B: We Meet Again etc...

[Super Robot Fan]

That is true the chances were slim and that's why I will still keep my hope for this game of coming.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Don't worry about it Zeta. I think we're all kind of frustrated at the moment. I try to hold back from saying what's on my mind, but let's say you were definitely thinking about the same way, just... you actually were saying it. ^^;

I've kinda gotten into a habit of, if I'm feeling particularly heated about something, I log out for a bit so I can collect my thoughts so I don't say something I regret.

A Wii port is unlikely, by the way. Atlus USA doesn't do that, it'd be up to Banpresto to do it... currently part of Nam Cobanda Isle, so, yeah... chances of this happening are at roughly .04%. Chances in Bizarro World are actually at 99.94%, but Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations is a different game there. And the Wii isn't popular in Bizarro World, either.

And to answer your theoretical question, sdragon: Tatsuya has sort of replied here. (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721&page=4)

Anyway... I think I may work on my Japanese skills... and maybe start looking into how hard it is to crack a PS2 game for fan translation...

[sdragon21]

If a licensed SRW were to make it over, the only one i could see it making it is SRW W for the DS,due to the fact it has the least amount of licensed series (7 or 8 i believe, excluding gundam.)
I also forgot to add, this will probably be my last time posting on this thread. I feel that it's time for this thread to rest in piece, and that it's time for me to move on.(Don't worry, i'll still be around.:) ) Thank's Guys, it was fun while lasted...

[Zeta_Nova]

As for OG and OGG, it has no known licenses. All the characters are all originals. This' like the 2nd most title that some publisher would possibly pick up.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well I'm still be Vigilant And see if theres Any possibility For at all ... Im Never Gonna give up on this !! For OGS!!!

[Super Robot Fan]

Don't worry man, you are not alone for I too have not given up hope on this game yet.

[Zeta_Nova]

Also, my theory was that if Bandai Entertainment themselves were to cast U.S VAs and package the Super Robot Taisen OG: Divine Wars and OG: The Animation instead of leave it to Bandai Visual. Then Bandai would also be able to work with Atlus to re-cast the same VAs to do SR Taisen Original Generations and Original Generations Gaiden.

Or, the U.S VAs that did Bandai Entertainment animes rather.

[Steel Greyfalke]

:agree:Thats theory is rightous all we need to do is cover the characters who werent in DW & OG;the animation (lets use Edward James Olmos MWAHAHAHA Huuh)

[Zeta_Nova]

No, I meant like anime VAs that've done over 20-50 yrs worth of Bandai Entertainment, Funimation or Viz animes. Not some random VA.

[Steel Greyfalke]

the only Reason I threw him in was more of the fact Yes we should use Most of our Well known VAs But throw a little some thing that might us an edge(specially since Nausicaa) ok idont think that'll work out but How about some of the VAs from U.S Manga Corps (im just throwin that in) Sorry if i mad dude..

[sdragon21]

I might have possible good news.

Earlier today, RPGfan had done an interview with Gaijinworks Victor Ireland. There was a lot of good stuff he talked about, but this one paragraphs take's the cake:

"Victor also confirmed with us that, presently, Gaijinworks has three projects ongoing, and one of them (which is apparently quite a big deal) should be ready to announce in the near future. At that time, Vic said, the Gaijinworks website will go from *just a logo* to a real site with content coverage and sneak previews of the games they're localizing and/or publishing, starting with Miami Law and the as-yet-unannounced title."

It's very possible that this "Big Deal" game could possibly be OGs.

Long story short: Keep the faith alive!!!

[Steel Greyfalke]

Hmm well think how big it was a Project it was to make the Very First SRTs It was probably a real big deal so yea! Thanks this could be our Victory (im a bit of a SRT patriot)

[Takara_Kitsune]

Certainly an interesting thought, sdragon...

However, this is Victor Ireland we're talking about here. Same guy who headed Working Designs... and they had a tendency to not only take forever on what they were working on, but sometimes never even finished what they started.

I will point out this, first of all: The keywords metatags for Gaijinworks website are "Gaijinworks, ichiban, gaijin, otaku, RPG, jRPG, role-playing game, japanese role-playing game, videogames, games, anime, microsoft, xbox 360, playstation, sony, import games, outside is the new in, localization, 11 is over, award-winning, one nation under games"

None of these specify SRT in any way.

I will point out something a bit more definitive, however. Gaijinworks can't possibly work on a Super Robot Taisen game because of this:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1488/trademarksrt.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trademarksrt.jpg)

Atlus owns the trademark for Super Robot Taisen. Super Robot Wars is not registered to anyone, either, if you were thinking that. Any variation of "Super Robot", "Robot Wars", and "Robot Taisen" is either already registered or will direct back to the trademark for Super Robot Taisen. Therefore, the only company that could reasonably release a new Super Robot Taisen game would be Atlus... otherwise, these trademark forms would indicate a transfer of ownership to someone else... and with the recent release of OG Saga: EF, this is most certainly impossible.

Additionally... there were some problems between Victor Ireland and SCEA... so that would very well indicate that they would be sooner working with Microsoft than Sony... but it would appear the metatags indicate some sort of interest in Sony... so hard to say.

[Super Robot Fan]

That would be great if it is, lets wait and see.

[Steel Greyfalke]

true Atlus Holds a contract but some contracts get tranfered but this is usually rare..

[sdragon21]

Takara_Kitsune, i don't know why you hate Victor Ireland, but just be thankful that this game "might" make it over here. I've heard he does tend to read other websites forums, and he might have struck a deal Atlus to bring this game over.

In closing, let me leave you with a quote from the man himself:
"Delays are temporary, mediocrity is forever."

[Takara_Kitsune]

I don't hate Victor Ireland. I just know that he's got the same problem that Peter Molyneaux has. Says things that are bigger than he can deliver. Don't get me wrong, I loved Working Designs games, but... I don't expect that he would obtain the rights for this game, is all... and also taking into account the well-publicized issues between him and SCEA, I don't think it's possible that Gaijinworks would make a game for a Sony console.

... Ironically, those stories from late 2005 have disappeared, so... I'll have to do some searching to see if I can't find them.

Anyway, the only way that Gaijinworks would be allowed to release SRT: OGs/OGG would be a combination of events...

First thing: Gaijinworks would have to successfully work out a deal with Namco Bandai... which I hear is similar to pulling teeth under most circumstances. Then a deal would have to be worked out with Atlus to use their trademark. This would probably not be too difficult if Atlus truly had no plans.

Second thing: Gaijinworks would have to work out a deal with SCEA for getting the game printed. SCEA and Victor Ireland really do have some issues between them, which involve the delays on their products, as well as the fact that Mr. Ireland repeatedly would put content into the games that was not approved by Sony... because apparently Sony does have to approve them.

Finally: I believe that in order to use the name, Atlus would probably need to be the publisher... regardless of who did the localization. This... actually would make some level of logical sense, and would be beneficial to both parties.

... Okay. So, you got me. I guess it's not so impossible. However, a 'big project' would seemingly define something a little less niche... however, I know Victor Ireland has a thing for SRPGs, so... I suppose we will see.

[sdragon21]

I also figured out 1 more thing.
Atlus may own the rights to Super Robot Taisen, but not to Super Robot Wars. For those who don't know Taisen=Wars in english.
So if gaijinwork does bring it here, It'll probably end up being called Super Robot Wars:Original Generations.

[Steel Greyfalke]

So either wat SRW/SRT dosent matter as long as it gets here unlees of course(other incident that keep us from such a Gourmet game)

[Takara_Kitsune]

I also figured out 1 more thing.
Atlus may own the rights to Super Robot Taisen, but not to Super Robot Wars. For those who don't know Taisen=Wars in english.
So if gaijinwork does bring it here, It'll probably end up being called Super Robot Wars:Original Generations.

I actually pointed that out in my other post. :P But that has been taken into account. No one has trademarked Super Robot Wars.

Sorry for being such a pessimist. Been one of those "spirits are dropping drastically by the day" weeks... not just because of SRT, by the way. ^^; I've been going on what is essentially the worst excuse for a job hunt since... well, ever. You can't really hunt what isn't there, if you catch my drift. v_v;

Either way, that's amounting to me being moody and an uber-pessimist. I didn't mean to take anything out on you, if it came off as such. I think maybe I should take the same cue Tatsuya did and take a couple days off the forums.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I feel ya but as I we must find some thin to holdus off before anything Really Major is announced.

[sdragon21]

I feel ya but as I we must find some thin to holdus off before anything Really Major is announced.

Have you thought about buying some games???

If you have a GBA or DS/Lite, i highly recommend Metroid Fusion and Golden Sun if you haven't bought them already. If you can find both at Gamestop, combined, they'll run you a little less than $15. (I should know, i'm picking up both games tommorow!:D)

Trust me, both games should hold you off until we hear something official, be it from Atlus or some other company.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I might buy A Wii or get some More PSP or DS games I do own both & Metroid Fusion, Good replay Value but i havent finished Golden Sun ,but think But i still havent Finished SRT D either but you got Any PSP Suggestions?

[Zeta_Nova]

Speaking of Golden Sun, did y'hear that they will be releasing a new Golden Sun. For the DS. Anyways, you guys still have hope of when this game gets localized?

[Inzaghi]

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1488/trademarksrt.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trademarksrt.jpg)

Atlus owns the trademark for Super Robot Taisen. Super Robot Wars is not registered to anyone, either, if you were thinking that. Any variation of "Super Robot", "Robot Wars", and "Robot Taisen" is either already registered or will direct back to the trademark for Super Robot Taisen. Therefore, the only company that could reasonably release a new Super Robot Taisen game would be Atlus... otherwise, these trademark forms would indicate a transfer of ownership to someone else... and with the recent release of OG Saga: EF, this is most certainly impossible.

Actually, it says quite clearly in the image you posted that although we were the trademark's original registrant, it is now owned by Banpresto Co. Ltd.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Actually, it says quite clearly in the image you posted that although we were the trademark's original registrant, it is now owned by Banpresto Co. Ltd.

I've never been good at reading these documents... but... that would mean that the trademark has been handed back to it's original owner? Smitty Werbenyagermanjensen? I mean Banpresto? Because I followed this as Banpresto was the original owner, and you guys were able to obtain it from them... and if that's the case, why were you able to publish games in the series? I hear Namco Bandai is ridiculous to work with on anything that is their property... and since Banpresto is now Namco Bandai property... @_@

Well, I guess this means some thing I didn't account for are possible, then. Another question that will never get an answer, but is worth asking... If you guys are not releasing Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations or Original Generations Gaiden... do you know if someone else plans to? Or is that some sort of secret Localization/Publisher code that you can't break?

[sdragon21]

Holy ####, Inzaghi's back!!!

[Takara_Kitsune]

He was on last night. Because I actually sat here and was being all creepy watching the forums. As they say, "Lurk more - it's never enough".

Anyway... I guess I have all the information I need for now. Now to go back to my eternally stupid task of looking for leaks via the ESRB, Trademark and Patent Office, and the Network Domain Registry. I could honestly just play the games I have, but I admit, I don't feel like it lately.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well U.S speaking Super Robot Taisen :the Animation is Clearly Under Bandai Visual Abd Banpresto is just a gaming subdivision (Hence Why is Tenchi Muyo on the SFC)(oh god that was a fun game) anyway thats Consumer America eve though i dont think i made a point *rimshot*

[sdragon21]

He was on last night. Because I actually sat here and was being all creepy watching the forums. As they say, "Lurk more - it's never enough".

Anyway... I guess I have all the information I need for now. Now to go back to my eternally stupid task of looking for leaks via the ESRB, Trademark and Patent Office, and the Network Domain Registry. I could honestly just play the games I have, but I admit, I don't feel like it lately.

Well, good luck then...and may the force be with you.

[Takara_Kitsune]

He was on last night. Because I actually sat here and was being all creepy watching the forums. As they say, "Lurk more - it's never enough".

Anyway... I guess I have all the information I need for now. Now to go back to my eternally stupid task of looking for leaks via the ESRB, Trademark and Patent Office, and the Network Domain Registry. I could honestly just play the games I have, but I admit, I don't feel like it lately.

Well, good luck then...and may the force be with you.

Thanks. :3 And... despite my general pessimism, that's my way of holding out hope. I said this earlier, but I suppose it bears repeating... I do definitely envy your optimism on this.

[Steel Greyfalke]

He was on last night. Because I actually sat here and was being all creepy watching the forums. As they say, "Lurk more - it's never enough".

Anyway... I guess I have all the information I need for now. Now to go back to my eternally stupid task of looking for leaks via the ESRB, Trademark and Patent Office, and the Network Domain Registry. I could honestly just play the games I have, but I admit, I don't feel like it lately.

We've got faith in ya 'Buddy!!:)

[Super Robot Fan]

Good luck with that and I hope you do find something.

[Zeta_Nova]

Yeah man, cuz I've been wanting to play this game ^^.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I still belive it can still happen If were confident about SRT OGS localization.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I won't give up on it. I think we need to look at the Earthbound/Mother fans for inspiration... Um... except minus the ridiculous campaigns. I meant more like, if it doesn't happen, we take it into our own hands...

I'm going to start practicing my Japanese again, and start on learning kanji... right now I play my imports with just my basic skills, which are enough to read character, item, and sometimes robot names... but I'll relearn these skills and either work on a fan translation of the games, or I'll write a translation guide... if need be. It sounds daunting and somewhat impossible, especially given my attention span, but I'll do my best!

[Steel Greyfalke]

Earthbound : Good thats one game that has a lot of inverted Beatles songs,
but i'm gonna take some japanese classes this fall to improve in Reading , but this is in case I have to buy a freeloader & import OG/OGG & Maybe an SFC... to fully enjoy this

[Zeta_Nova]

If you guys say so. I wouldn't want to pass up a great opportunity.

[Steel Greyfalke]

this is a last resort tactic but i'm patient

[Super Robot Fan]

hopefully, we will not have to resort to any last resort tactics because I believe that this has a chance of getting localized.

[Zeta_Nova]

Meh, I give up. Once A.J makes up his mind. Like with that "I have no plans, yet I'll look into it and see what I can do to get it localized". But this doesn't happen.

My PS2's a sitting duck, like with these newer Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIII, Cross Edge all going to the PS3.

[Jackgar]

Wow, it looks like people have been putting the request for this one in forever. I've known that there's been alot of legal issues regarding the series, and endless Frontier got my hopes up again. I've played this through an import, and it's awesome, and I played 1 and 2 on the GBA so I know the story, but there's nothing like having it all together.

And hey, Zeta, there's still Devil Summoner 2 to keep the dust off. Ghostbusters and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 look like they should be good,too, when those come out.

[Steel Greyfalke]

*WAVES ARMS *All right you got the Dog Gundam!! anyway Endless frontier is a really good game id suggest to any SRW Fan or Non Mainstreamer, thanks for the support,bro!

[Jackgar]

THIS TAIL IS BURNING RED! IT HOWLS, AND TELLS ME TO DEVOUR YOU!

But yeah, Endless Frontier was all sorts of fun, to be sure. You know a game's good when the only "flaw" you tend to find on reviews is that there are alot of boob jokes.

So, if I'm reading some of the stuff above right, we now have to go to Bandaico themselves if we want this? That'd be awful. They won't even put the SD Gundam games out in the states,not even the upcoming G Gen Wars (which I'm going to import as soon as it comes out), so what chance would this have? ><

[PainKilleR-[CE]]

but... that would mean that the trademark has been handed back to it's original owner? ... Because I followed this as Banpresto was the original owner, and you guys were able to obtain it from them... and if that's the case, why were you able to publish games in the series?

The way the document reads, Atlus USA registered the trademark in the US, most likely at some point after getting the rights to publish a game in the series (judging by the date on the form: Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation). As far as I know, since Super Robot Taisen is Banpresto's property, there's no reasonable way Atlus USA could have held on to that trademark, but the trademark would have needed to be registered when the game was released to prevent someone else from doing so, and prevent legal problems that might cause a recall of the game.

Under whatever arrangement the trademark was transferred to Banpresto, but that doesn't prevent other people from publishing games in the series, it simply means they need to license the trademark from Banpresto (which wouldn't be a major headache since they would have to license the rest of the IP as well).

[Steel Greyfalke]

acually there is a lotta debate About SRW OG/OGG & technically Atlus publihes & distributes this game but Banpresto is under Bandai Namco so its up to higher authorites to actually release this + a shot to the heart (im so sorry) But SD Gundam was not very popular in the U.S (which is Why they shouldda aired SD Gundam material circa 1984) hence Importing..

[Zeta_Nova]

lol I suppose Jack. But I'm mostly a Persona fan, not a generic SMT fan. And my interest is on ATLUS' other SMT: Devil Survivor.

[Jackgar]

I'm looking forward to Devil Survivor as well, no question.

Anyway, SRW's legal issues have always been pretty headache-inducing. I just hope we won't have to take this to Bandai namco themselves. They're hard people to talk to.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Yes they are,

[Takara_Kitsune]

I'm looking forward to Devil Survivor as well, no question.

Anyway, SRW's legal issues have always been pretty headache-inducing. I just hope we won't have to take this to Bandai namco themselves. They're hard people to talk to.

Yes they are,

I've learned the hard way about Namco Bandai... ugh...

I have mentioned previously, in this topic, even, that I'm a huge fan of the Tales series. They choose which ones we get in the US so randomly, I gave up and imported the ones that had any question. You know it's bad when a game series has not had half of it's entries localized... and I truly believe that the Tales series is good enough to compete with Final Fantasy, but... well, they won't put the effort into releasing all the entries, and they're also not 'realistic' style... which we all know photorealistic graphics are the only way to sell a game... *eyeroll*

Oh well. Anyway, point is, dealing with Namco Bandai directly would be like having a shouting match with a deaf person. You can shout really loud, and the deaf person may not shout back, but no matter how loud you yell, you'll never be heard. May be a totally politically incorrect analogy, but it is a fitting description.

More or less, my point is, Namco Bandai doesn't react to petitions, letters, or anything. Like no reply. Oh, and don't count on their forums either. The staff they have there are just moderators. Like... they're hired as moderators. At least we know our Atlus Forum mods actually have some involvement with the processes in the studio, too. :3

And to clarify, the only Namco Bandai forums I've been to are the Tales Series Forums... I don't even know if they have any company forum on their site.

[Steel Greyfalke]

They did the same thing W/ anime ,SPT Layzner & Giant Gorg comin State side Cancelled ...WAAH

[Zeta_Nova]

With these negative comments, do you guys still hold on to that "hope" of this game getting localized?

[Steel Greyfalke]

Yes. all things go through phases

[Zeta_Nova]

Perhaps we'll try again later this fall or by the time FFXIII releases to the masses next year.

[Steel Greyfalke]

we all need to chill for a while

[Zeta_Nova]

Me, by then I would've forgotten about this game and just play PS3, Wii and 360.

[Takara_Kitsune]

With these negative comments, do you guys still hold on to that "hope" of this game getting localized?

I'm a pessimist and a realist by nature. I'm afraid that it's just my nature to point out such things.

However, the Namco Bandai comments were not made in pessimism... that's for real. Past experience has proven so. Full list of games I was involved in the push for them to localize:

Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny 2, Tales of the Tempest, Tales of Innocence, Tales of Destiny Remake, Tales of Rebirth PSP, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, Tales of Destiny 2 PSP, Tales of Eternia PSP, Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition.

... Want to know which of these were localized? None.

Full list of games that were localized:

Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Destiny, Tales of Destiny II (Which is not the same as above Destiny 2), Tales of Legendia, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology, Tales of Phantasia GBA (gimped version of the game with a bad translation), Tales of Symphonia 2, Tales of Vesperia.

Yeah. I realize that some of these are remakes and all that, and that some of what was released only in Japan was actually more or less the same as stuff that got released in English anyway... but you know, when something is in demand, there are people that wish to play, and will buy it, coupled with bad press from certain media outlets (there are still sites that say stuff like, "And how many bad Tales games Namco Bandai pumped out last year") and really, it's a great series that actually does something new for RPGs with it's battle system, which for those of you that don't play, is much like Star Ocean 3 and 4's battle system. The stories are cliched, but tell me one series that doesn't have that, and tell me that FF actually does it better, because it doesn't.

However, the point is, if Namco Bandai decides not to do something, they will never, ever do it. They're worse than Nintendo. At least Nintendo sends you a form letter that turns you down. But Namco Bandai? Ha. They don't even do that much. You know how much that sucks? I'm not saying it to be a pessimist. I've been after Namco Bandai for years on some of these things... and to add SRT to the list gives me more reason to continue, but... really, it's not easy, even moreso when your hopes get dashed repeatedly... and then instead of announcing a main series game, you get a spinoff like Radiant Mythology, which while good, you would have much preferred to see Tales of Destiny Director's Cut.

It even sucks worse when there was even a time that XSEED, one of the other companies that, like Atlus, will cater to what the fans ask for, tried to get the North American publishing rights to Tales of Rebirth. Hah... it was absolutely the dumbest thing ever. A game in high demand, but not high enough for Namco Bandai to release, was being more or less taken off Namco Bandai's hands, so to speak, and they'd get a cut for doing NOTHING. Guess what happened? Want a guess? Well, see Tales of Rebirth on your local Gamestop shelf? No? Guess why? They refused! Yes, they opted against making a little money and letting someone else do it, who would have done quite a good job on it, I might add, in favor of being greedy with their licenses because they wouldn't have gotten all the profit!

... Anyway, sorry for the rant. It's a matter of, I hate supporting them for the fact that they never try to cater to fans... yet at the same time, they make the games I so desire, so when they release even one, I snap it right up. It's a very conflicted feeling. v_v;

[Jackgar]

It's really a sad case that you don't want to support them because they just completely refuse to take the fanbase's requests into account, but you just have to because of the high quality of product they tend to put out. I, for one, won't give up on the localization of a game like this, and, though it's tough to remain optimistic, I've seen enough surprise ports in the last few years to think it's hopeless.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I think you misunderstand. I was referring to Namco Bandai. Not Atlus. Atlus puts out a high-quality product and I support them in whatever they do.

I was pointing out why I am a pessimist in the face of Namco Bandai being the holder of the Super Robot Taisen license... because if Atlus doesn't release it, the suggestion made on the previous page was that we start asking Namco Bandai. Which is impossible, as Namco Bandai doesn't budge on releasing something if they don't want to.

If you look at my wall o' text up there, you can see I'm pointing out Namco Bandai's failures, not Atlus. However, I will state this in case you did realize that's what I was indicating. I do think the Tales games Namco Bandai brings through are well done, but they don't give a passing glance to any they don't want to do.

Also, if you didn't follow why Namco Bandai owns the SRT license, Banpresto was bought by Namco Bandai within the last year or so. Banpresto is the developer of SRT. So, in effect, Namco Bandai owns SRT. Namco Bandai is known to be greedy with their properties, so provided Atlus didn't localize it, and we decided to push for Namco Bandai releasing OGs, Namco Bandai would ignore us completely, as stated above, because Namco Bandai does not do what fans suggest.

On the other hand: Atlus does their best to cater to the fans. They don't always, but they do their damn best to. Even thinking one would suggest Atlus doesn't cater to the fans would be ridiculous. Atlus listens more than any other company I know of. Only companies I know of that even get close: Working Designs, Capcom, XSEED, and NIS. Ignition Entertainment is up-and-coming with this sort of thing, too. And... despite the fact that I do find some annoyances with Victor Ireland doing translations again, Gaijinworks will probably cater just as much as Working Designs did.

I suppose the point is, I don't give up on the game getting localized, but if it gets to the point that we're asking Namco Bandai, then it'll be a cold day in hell before we see OGs in english as an official release.

Edit: And... I kinda see I'm pushing the topic further and further away from the origin... I hate to say this, but I also think I'm making some enemies rather than friends... so, to preserve the peace, I think I will voluntarily leave the forums for now. I notice a majority of the replies to my posts lately have been from people rather upset with what I'm saying, so I figure it's best to take off before I do any real damage. I'll probably regret saying this and come back tomorrow, or I'll leave for a few months. Either way, sorry for stirring up drama, and I'll catch you all later.

[Jackgar]

No, I know you were talking about "Bandaico". Atlus has yet to disappoint me in any of those areas. If I was unclear about that, then I do indeed apologize.

Also, if you're referring to my reaction, then I just think maybe you misread it. The sad part isn't towards you, it's towards Bandai Namco. It's sad that they won't cater like you were saying.

[Zeta_Nova]

Meh, I'd say why put off when you can play what's today. Like today's SRPG/turnbased combo. That is of Cross Edge, Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice

[Jackgar]

Knights in the Nightmare's a good pickup,too, as far as (quasi, at least), SRPGs go,too. And if you hadn't already played them, try to hunt down OG1 and 2 for the GBA.

[KaoruMikagami]

i`m with you.urghh i dont understand at all what they say when i play this game.but oh well i just play it until finished though

[Steel Greyfalke]

Some of us import & Never Finish (SRT D) *DADUMDUMDUM*

[Constraint]

I liked Super Robot Taisen D. It was pretty different from the other games. I thought it had some dark/gloomy feel to it.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I loved Garland a.k.a my Favorite unit I just stuck on one stage , But i think SRT Needs Mor Megazone if you ask me.

[Jackgar]

I wasn't a huge fan of D, which is odd, because it has some of my favorite series in it.

Has anyone else gotten W or K besides me?

[Tatsuya Suou]

????????????? Hmm
Interesting.........
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4573/srwhotnewsfam6srwneo4.jpg

[Zeta_Nova]

Here's hoping that A.J will look into this game. Been wanting to play a SR Taisen game on a game system. With voice acting.

[Latooni11]

*Sigh*
This is seriously depressing.

Original Generation is one of my favorite series of all time. (And that's on the GBA! Seriously, a GBA game being one of my favorites ever?!) And the chance of having it on the PS2 was so awesome... I can't believe they are passing up such a great game, when the DS Endless Frontier is a much weaker installment into the series.

Dang it, I'm half tempted to boycott Atlus at this point.

[Zeta_Nova]

Sorry, but I gotta say this. Sometiems you've gotta man up ATLUS. Even NIS America is takin' into account what the SRPG fans like. Why do you think we've received every conceivable Disgaea game to date? It's because gamers like these kind of games.

There's a time, that I agree that you've got to say no. But yet, there should even be a time where you say; "YES". By saying no this time, you've let every conceivable SRT Original Generations fan down. All I'm sayin' is this. Please, don't keep leaving us in the dark man. We want to play these games as much as the japanese fans do.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Must Have!!!! Omg !!

[Zeta_Nova]

Same here. This' about the only mech SRPG I've been wanting to play. Well, this and SR Taisen Original Generations.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I own W,A,D,EX,OG,OG2 ,A Portable and Link Battler

[Super Robot Fan]

I know what you mean, we need this.

[Steel Greyfalke]

:grouphug:For the Fans & the Collectors (which I'am Both):D

[Zeta_Nova]

So, in a sense. Are you guys saying that the only conceivable SR Taisen that the U.S will be possibly getting is Original Generations? Considering that NEO and Academy have a host of anime series mechs attached to them.

[Constraint]

Non srw original titles will never be localized. get over it.

[Steel Greyfalke]

:agree: Constraints right we must concentrate on OG for various reasons

[Zeta_Nova]

True. I guess I'll be happy if it's OG + OGG will be the only conceivable U.S title that will ever get localized. Didn't care much about those other series.

[Super Robot Fan]

I agree as long as we get this out of the others Super Robot games, I fine with that.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Same here, Any non OG i can import it anyway

[Jackgar]

Something I'd always wondered is if they ever plan to make DS versions of OGs or OGG. And as a bonus, you get to use any sava data from a GBA OG game you put into slot-2 (Suck it, DS-i!). I think if that did happen, which is a possiblity, that might have a better prospect for being ported.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well all i know is that All SRT GBA games Except R are gonna be ported to the PSP so maybe OG Portable?

[Super Robot Fan]

You know maybe it would be possible for atlus to release these games as a downloadable game for the PS3 and or PSP. This way I think they would have to take into the cost of producing like 100,000 copies copies and only say 60,000 copies was sold. But if it was a downloadable game they wouldn't need to pay for the production of 100,000 copies.

[Zeta_Nova]

You're crazy. I'd rather play it out of the blue-ray disc. Besides, I'd only play OG/OGG only. Seeing as this is only the mech game that has non-licensed mechs/characters.

[Steel Greyfalke]

actuallly i wasnt talkin about OG , being a downloadable game but personally id rather have a physical disc & so that i can add it to my other SRT games

[growlanservoter]

While Browsign my local Gamestops used GBA case I noticed OGS2 and after enjoying the DS title imensly I took a chance and payed the 7.99 for it and now I cant put the little bugger down. Deff a great and addicting game some of the battle songs are the same as on the ds title except that the DS ones are remixs still addicting now I have to go out and find the first OGS. Oh yea and I am all for a new SRT game to come over here :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

Me too bro:agree:

[Zeta_Nova]

Oh, I see. Though, it'd be pretty hard. As most of the Atlus games are not on PS2. They're like spread throughout multiple systems (DS, PSP) etc...

[Steel Greyfalke]

I actually see more Atlus games w/ handheld systems but if we Get a New Persona we probably can get another SRT addition PS2/3 wise

[Super Robot Fan]

I was just suggesting it, while I too prefer to have a physical copy. I was just suggesting that if one reason why we might not see it was the cost of production, making it downloadable would cut out the cost of producing physical disks, boxes, manuals, etc.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well its a good plan to cut down costs , but SRT is (well in my perspective) is one of those games that You need to touch & Gloat about haw awesome the cover art is ,but i dont think will sell as well if it was down downloadable, though...

[Super Robot Fan]

That is true and I am not saying that this is what should be done. I would love to have a physical copy to just admire the boxart and everything. But if things take a turn for the worst in localizing this, and if making it downloadable was the only way, I think I would do it.

But I still haven't lost hope in this coming over to the States, so I will just leave my downloadable game idea away for now.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Makes sense But no one shold lose hope ,Physical disc or Downloadable copy ,Just getting it in the U.S. is what matters to me !:D

[Takara_Kitsune]

I'm sorta back. I like the enthusiasm, but dare I come back a pessimist and point out that as of yet, no PS2 games have been made into digital distribution format? And that if it were to be released as such, Namco Bandai would have to actually make OGs into a download first since Atlus USA doesn't perform that kind of conversion?

In my time away, I did realize that Banpresto no longer makes video games at all. They've been sort of stipped of their properties in the Namco Bandai merger, and instead any work under the name Banpresto is just for the mechanical prize machines they run in Japan.

Aside from this, I've kinda calmed down on the point. I think I'll just be sitting back to see what happens, and I'll comment when I feel like it.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well just see what happens,

[Zeta_Nova]

Meh, I'd already given up. And when this month's over. I may just sacrifice the PS2 and DS in favor of the PS3. If it's one thing I hate to hest. It's this; "Sorry, but we don't have plans on localizing the game". Really disappointed ATLUS.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Graphic speakin What if it was ported in the Ps3 thius Game might look good in Blu-Ray

[Zeta_Nova]

Yeah, tons better.

Though, IMO. PS2's like a dead duck. It'll never have games like ATLUS' anticipated PS3 game Demon's Souls, SQUARE's high profile games; FFXIII, Versus XIII etc...

Muchless DS' SMT: DS.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Ps2 is a Rotting duck here in the U.S, speaking of which Atlus had SRT OG GBA Wrapped up how long ? this could help.....

[Takara_Kitsune]

Ps2 is a Rotting duck here in the U.S, speaking of which Atlus had SRT OG GBA Wrapped up how long ? this could help.....

I can't obtain full information on this, as it was before my time following Atlus closely. However, I will say that it was kept a secret for a fair bit of time. Both GBA games were announced at E3 2006.

Officially, SRT: OG1 was released 4 years after the original Japanese release. SRT: OG2 was released 1 year after the Japanese release. Really, it's more or less. I'm rounding because I'm lazy.

PS2 is actually not dead or rotting yet, although I will say that there's not a whole lot left on it. This (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/releases.html?limiter=1) should cover what's left. Not a superb list, but it does cover what's left for us.

The problem is, by previous example, E3 was the best time to announce. However, Atlus has also changed a bit since 2006. I mean, in a good way, mind you, but they go about their announcements a bit differently than they did back then... I think. I really don't know. Like I said, I wasn't here then. ^^;

[Steel Greyfalke]

well that makes A lot of sense

[Kyoji]

Dead topic is dead. And if anyone yells at me about bumping, I don't care, I want to keep this topic ALIVE!

But anyway, I've been playing some of the other SRW titles I've imported... I keep finding myself wanting to play OGs on PS2, though. Bandai-Namco, Banpresto, Atlus... doesn't matter who releases it, I just want to be able to play it with an English translation. Heck, if I have to, I'll find a translation guide, print it off, and play an imported version!

I really think that it could be a big seller if it had some advertising. It's just one of those games you have to try.

Anywho, end rant.

[Super Robot Fan]

I agree with you, I really want to play this game and would like this game to be translated. But as of right now there is nothing to do, but wait for this game's announcement.

[Zeta_Nova]

I've given up hope the day that he said that they have no plans on localizing the game. Really disappointed there A.J. Which I've overal decided to give up the PS2 and trade it in for the PS3.

[Steel Greyfalke]

still gonna wait cuz (well good Video games Are always released behind my back)
but I'll try to Import it, but ill watch N Wait

[Takara_Kitsune]

Personally, I'm not waiting anymore.

I do think that was obvious when I took on my hugely pessimistic stance weeks ago. However, if it is announced, I'll go back into 100% fangirl mode. But unless it happens, forget it. >.>

Even without OGs/OGG, I have plenty of games to look forward to. (And plenty I own right now that I should finish)... so no real complaints here. But I do really want OGs and OGG. I'll be watching for any special deals on Play-Asia...

[Super Robot Fan]

Well, I already have a backup plan which including me buying a Japanese PS2 and importing the two games. But I will wait till Sept or Oct before deciding to import it.

[growlanservoter]

I just imported Alpha 3 what sold me was the fact the gundam endless waltz mechs were in it and the fact that Arado, Seolla and their mechs are back ^^

[Takara_Kitsune]

You may want to look into OG Gaiden right now, by the way. The Limited Edition is on sale for less than the price of just buying OG Gaiden alone. I'm tempted to do it myself, even though I don't have the money right now.

[Steel Greyfalke]

same here minus the Japanese Ps2

[growlanservoter]

So giaden is a direct sequal to the GBA games and the remake of the GBA games why hasn't ATLUS published either of them the are both OG games so Liscensing shouldnt be a problem :( I mean ATLUS publihed the remakes of Rivera which I love and Yiggdra union which I hated :( Why not publish the remake of OG on the PS2 and its sequal :(

Deffinate Import material man I have imported more game this year than I have gotten english released ones ><

Super Robot Taisen Endless Frontier is the only engish publihed game I have picked up this year. Thats not counting pre owned GBA and DS games such as OG and OG2 :D

[growlanservoter]

The OGS and Gaiden look awsome on the ps2 plus there is the pairing system :D

[Zeta_Nova]

Meh, for me. I think importin's for loosers :p. In the end, it's U.S companies like; ATLUS, Square Enix, CAPCOM, NINTENDO etc... that tend to give us bonus content. Yet the importers would be left in the dark, which they receive no bonus content.

Like with the SRT OG EF soundtrack CD.

[Purgeon]

Try it before you bash it.... As for the loser part I'll refrain from posting what I really want to post. Bonus content is just that, a bonus. I have purchased everything theyve ended up releasing even though I may have imported it. As far super robot wars goes, its the only way to play most of the series. You look up videos of Alpha 3 and tell me with a straight face it doesnt look like the best of the series, cause believe me "friend" it is. You wait all you want but you aint ever going to see that one come the US. Importing is not for losers nor should people do it for the sake of playing a japanese game and thinking theyre cool for doing so, its for playing a game period and if playing a game makes me a loser, guess what pal? Your a on a videogame forum so I ASSUME you play videogames, thats makes you a loser too!

Btw I highly recommend OG Gaiden, Compatible Kaiser is reason enough.

[Takara_Kitsune]

The OGS and Gaiden look awsome on the ps2 plus there is the pairing system :D

Oh? You mean like the one in K? I actually didn't know that. That's cool! :3 Only downside is, the one in K is a bit hard to understand... because they just had to include a bunch of Kanji in the all-text tutorial. ^^; But needless to say, when I have gotten it to work, the pairing system is quite awesome. :3

Meh, for me. I think importin's for loosers :p. In the end, it's U.S companies like; ATLUS, Square Enix, CAPCOM, NINTENDO etc... that tend to give us bonus content. Yet the importers would be left in the dark, which they receive no bonus content.

Like with the SRT OG EF soundtrack CD.

I admit, I don't know where you get the idea it's for losers... and you are aware that to some extent, you can still get the bonuses when you import, right? Japan has bonuses, too, and depending on the stock they have, they often will have some of the bonuses. Like when I bought Tales of Hearts, it came with the Drama DVD. And I don't know where you'd think Square-Enix gives 'bonus' content. More often than not, you pay extra for it. Sure, it's a 'bonus'... if you give them $10 more.

Try it before you bash it.... As for the loser part I'll refrain from posting what I really want to post. Bonus content is just that, a bonus. I have purchased everything theyve ended up releasing even though I may have imported it. As far super robot wars goes, its the only way to play most of the series. You look up videos of Alpha 3 and tell me with a straight face it doesnt look like the best of the series, cause believe me "friend" it is. You wait all you want but you aint ever going to see that one come the US. Importing is not for losers nor should people do it for the sake of playing a japanese game and thinking theyre cool for doing so, its for playing a game period and if playing a game makes me a loser, guess what pal? Your a on a videogame forum so I ASSUME you play videogames, thats makes you a loser too!

Btw I highly recommend OG Gaiden, Compatible Kaiser is reason enough.

I'm intending on waiting until the end of the month to order OG Gaiden, I only hope Play-Asia still has the Limited Edition on sale at that point. I need to make sure it will go on my credit card bill for next month. ^^;

Edit: Oh, they've moved onto next month's billing cycle already. OG Gaiden time! :3

[Super Robot Fan]

Well, not to sound like I have given up hope on this title or anything. But if this game doesn't come here to the States, those who really really want to play this are probably willing to import it.

[Lord Eternal]

Seems lately there is a lot of division between the fans who support this series. Honestly, why?

I do wish this game would come to the States, but not because I just think it should be avaliable to us. SRT: OGS is a very well put together game, considering it includes content the GBA versions of the games never possessed, such as battles against the menacing Valsion Type CF's, big mean green mass-produced varients of the mech.

Free Battle always appealed to me, since you could put together rather interesting scenarios for battle, such as having Alteisen Reise wipe the floor with Soulgain in one shot of it's Trump Card, or Claymore Overload if you want to call it that.

I know it would be very difficult to assign all the voice actors spots for the characters and not displease fans, but I honestly would be happy if everything was just subbed. I'm sure others share this same opinion.

But for now, all I can do is wait, and hope for a day where OGS will make an American appearence.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Yes if nothing happens Id import if it's not released but I think theres still is a needle thin chance.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Well, not to sound like I have given up hope on this title or anything. But if this game doesn't come here to the States, those who really really want to play this are probably willing to import it.

I really want to play... and as a follow-up to before, I ordered the Limited Edition of Gaiden (Limited Edition really just comes with a real-type PT figure. Kinda cool. :3) and I also ordered Original Generations while I was at it. (Best series version of OGs) Its not so much that I've given up. I suppose this is 'security'. If there is never an English version, I've got the Japanese ones. If an English version comes, then by all means I'll buy it. (Same goes for any other games that I have imported. If they see an English release, damn right I'll buy it...)

Seems lately there is a lot of division between the fans who support this series. Honestly, why?

I do wish this game would come to the States, but not because I just think it should be avaliable to us. SRT: OGS is a very well put together game, considering it includes content the GBA versions of the games never possessed, such as battles against the menacing Valsion Type CF's, big mean green mass-produced varients of the mech.

Free Battle always appealed to me, since you could put together rather interesting scenarios for battle, such as having Alteisen Reise wipe the floor with Soulgain in one shot of it's Trump Card, or Claymore Overload if you want to call it that.

I know it would be very difficult to assign all the voice actors spots for the characters and not displease fans, but I honestly would be happy if everything was just subbed. I'm sure others share this same opinion.

But for now, all I can do is wait, and hope for a day where OGS will make an American appearence.

I've had a very pessimistic outlook in general lately. Unfortunately, that does seem to cause somewhat of a rift, and is probably not helping close the divide here. I have decided to (at this point have initiated the process of) import the Japanese versions. I love Atlus, I appreciate what they've released, but I admit it is foolish for me to continue waiting for them to release a game that's not coming. (Makes me sound hugely impatient, which is ironic, since I seriously haven't been waiting as long as a lot of people here. However, once a game is well past two years from it's Japanese release, the odds feel low. Every day that passes without an announcement is even less of a chance of release.)

Anyway, only debate I've left related to this is... swap disc, imported console, or modified console? And I think option 3 is out of the question. (Because I can't find the parts on any sites that will ship them to America...) Option 1 is a pain, so that leaves option 2.

Yes if nothing happens Id import if it's not released but I think theres still is a needle thin chance.

I think there's still a chance too. I just like to have a little insurance policy of sorts by having the import versions... just in case. And having them will shut me up for a bit. :P

[Steel Greyfalke]

A good insurance idea at that & OGG lmeted edition Comes With ART-1 The one mech that'll look good next to Gundam G-3, :p

[Takara_Kitsune]

A good insurance idea at that & OGG lmeted edition Comes With ART-1 The one mech that'll look good next to Gundam G-3, :p

Thanks. :3 And even though I am going about this business with importing it, I'd still love to see an English version. As I said several pages back, I know enough Japanese to play, but not necessarily enough to understand what they're saying.

And I'm kinda wondering why they have so many Limited Edition OGG in stock. Actually, scratch that. $100 price tag for a game + figurine is a bit much, and I don't care how nice the figurine is, still expensive.

Also, I seem to have gotten lucky, and found a way to do previously mentioned Option #3. Unfortunately, I've gone over my monthly budget for July already. I'm going to need to do some freelance work to get some extra cash now. ^^; Also... strangely, this is the first time in recent history I can't blame Atlus for my lack of cash... hm...

[Yet Another Tim]

If Namco Bandai denied Atlus USA rights to localize this, then, let's force NBGA to put this on PSN, seeing how OGs seems to be late to the party.

That way, Namco Bandai can give itself the chance to promote one of its own in-house products that need more attention in America, in another platform beside Nintendo's.

[growlanservoter]

My Atlus has given up on the ps2 I am sure if OGS and gaiden were to hit the psp Atlus would be all over it like the early bird is to the worm :D
I would get the cpllectors one with the ART figure but I just ordered the Seolla figure that was on sale and I got the WildFalken 1/144 scale model coming and it will look awsome next to my gundam heavy arms custom from endless waltz 1/144 scale model.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I don't think Atlus has necessarily given up on the PS2, but it looks less likely that they'll make any more PS2 games by the day.

On an unrelated note, about the same time I ordered the OGs and OGG, I was able to order one of those really nice Kotobukiya Zoids kits... Dad offered to pay for it for me. :3 I guess the advantage to still living at home is that your family still knows what you like. :P It was unrelated, but somewhat related since Kotobukiya also makes the SRT model kits and figures.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well I know that Supposedly Banpresto is gonna remake Most of the SRT series seen on the GBA ,this could mean that if OG/OG2 Are remade And or ported this might See localization , Hence more of what could be a testbed for a PS2/3 version.

[Constraint]

Erm, OG and OG2 are already remade for the PS2 O_o. Hence, Original Generations.
It'd be a stupid move to port OG and OG2 to the PSP, if that's what your saying.

Supposedly, the PSP only has a port of MX and A. There'd be no reason to port OG and OG 2 to the PSP.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I do see where you're coming from... however, did they say they were going to do all of them? So far they just remade SRT A. The other PSP SRT is MX, which was originally on PS2. (And it's a lovely game, by the way. :3 The complaints on load times are somewhat valid, but they're no worse than anything else on PSP, so it's not bad. You want bad loading times, buy Spectral Souls... which is a good game, but has ungodly loading times... FOR UNVOICED TEXT SPEECH BUBBLES)

But, Steel Greyfalke, I will agree with your statement in part: Because of the particular games they are porting to PSP (both GBA games as full remakes and PS2 games as enhanced ports) the odds are acually pretty decent we could see OGs and OGG on PSP. Most 2D-style games from PS2 seem to be candidates for a PSP port. Current list off the top of my head: Tales of Destiny 2, Tales of Rebirth, Super Robot Taisen MX, Mana Khemia, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, and Disgaea 2. That... makes me feel the odds are pretty high for OGs/OGG... since those two are in a similar style to MX.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Erm, OG and OG2 are already remade for the PS2 O_o. Hence, Original Generations.
It'd be a stupid move to port OG and OG2 to the PSP, if that's what your saying.

Supposedly, the PSP only has a port of MX and A. There'd be no reason to port OG and OG 2 to the PSP.

I do see where you're coming from... however, did they say they were going to do all of them? So far they just remade SRT A. The other PSP SRT is MX, which was originally on PS2. (And it's a lovely game, by the way. :3 The complaints on load times are somewhat valid, but they're no worse than anything else on PSP, so it's not bad. You want bad loading times, buy Spectral Souls... which is a good game, but has ungodly loading times... FOR UNVOICED TEXT SPEECH BUBBLES)

But, Steel Greyfalke, I will agree with your statement in part: Because of the particular games they are porting to PSP (both GBA games as full remakes and PS2 games as enhanced ports) the odds are acually pretty decent we could see OGs and OGG on PSP. Most 2D-style games from PS2 seem to be candidates for a PSP port. Current list off the top of my head: Tales of Destiny 2, Tales of Rebirth, Super Robot Taisen MX, Mana Khemia, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, and Disgaea 2. That... makes me feel the odds are pretty high for OGs/OGG... since those two are in a similar style to MX.
@ Constraint & T. Kitsune

what im trying to say I only heard that Banpresto wanted to port Advance,Destiny, & i think Reversal (im not sure about Judgement though)
but OG/OGG could still be a possibility cause Well Look at MX


but in another case Roa(r) is mentioned in OG:A (but im still not sure if this helps) Cuz some People dont know But Roar Seems like A be some sorta Mascot in a case ....

[Zeta_Nova]

Speaking of this, I had a dream. That ATLUS announced this during E3. Along with Demon's Souls and SMT: Devil Survivor. Or rather, this was the last E3 09 Atlus game to be announced in my dream :P. And Demon's Souls and SMT: Devil Survivor being the top two

But was the first game to show up on ATLUS' E3 press (of course in my dream version of E3 09).

Like how Rock Band took the stage as a show opener. SRT: Original Generations and SMT: Devil Survivor was the show opener of ATLUS. Like one of the kids of Devil Survivor was piloting a mech in the P.C opener. Namely SMT: DS' Atsuro, which he was piloting R1. And Ryusei was talking to him :P.

Which they did a parody of a stage in SRT: Original Generations. Called; SMT: Original Generations Survivor. Then A.J took to the stage and announced this, SMT: Devil Survivor and Demon's Souls to the media.

[Takara_Kitsune]

That's certainly interesting. ^^

Too bad Atlus doesn't get any sort of stage time, eh? I'm sure it'd be worth it. I do know they get panels at comic conventions sometimes, though... Or maybe just once. I don't really know.

And... strangely, you're not alone on dreaming that Atlus announced SRT in some form at E3. When I got really moody and hopeless during E3 about the lack of announcement... it was ironically because I had repeatedly dreamt it, but was also not quite in full sleep. Daydreaming while partially asleep, I suppose. Well, it was lack of sleep and some relationship problems (but those are a bit irrelevant).

Anyway, strangely enough, SRT and DS could have some things in common. :P Turn-based strategy and all. It'd be like... a SRT game with fighting while not in the robots, too.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Speakin of SRT inspired dreams (whith hints of various other things of insanity)
but E3 was held at an Airbase for on odd reason but to unleash What was A fullsized,Full Functional Version of Alt & R-1 for the release of SRT OGs/OGG double disc set, I flipped my wig (But then I woke up before the announement of a specific date & realized Banpresto or Atlus Wouldnt Give That away as Spoils Especially Alt (& if Cheney Got His hands on Alt *shudders*) but Maybe A Gokin of Alt or a ATX Jacket... But The U.S Would let us spend that much to Have somethin that fun...

[growlanservoter]

I just started up Kusuha's chapter and I have to say I am really loving Alpha 3. Well except for Jeeg and Miwa they are all kinds of epic fail ><

[Steel Greyfalke]

Man Trying to Find Xabungle on DVD is hard but builds Character. + Xabungle is on of my Faves in Alpha , Macross Plus too

[Purgeon]

I just started up Kusuha's chapter and I have to say I am really loving Alpha 3. Well except for Jeeg and Miwa they are all kinds of epic fail ><

Whoa now! Jeeg may not be as powered up as Gaogaigar or mazinkaiser but hes agile and hard to hit, upgrade his mobility and then tell me he aint useful.

[Steel Greyfalke]

although not in Alpha but in SRT 4, L-Gaim is also Very Agile.

[growlanservoter]

I just got to the point where the Eva units join and I have to say I am using all the gundam wing endless walt gundams, strike, kushua, bullet the beast looking combiner the macross dudes and the Black mech that has the floating little red usless dog with him that never attacks the rest of my units are eiter sitting on the side lines ^^ and I boosted Jeegs mobility and he got blown away 3 times on a 5% chance on a boss fight yea he stinks :D Gundam Sand Rock is taking his place for agility :)

[Steel Greyfalke]

Sandrock is one of the more useful(in my case with A,W ,A Portable the First Alpha, & D) of E.W. Gundams

[Purgeon]

I just got to the point where the Eva units join and I have to say I am using all the gundam wing endless walt gundams, strike, kushua, bullet the beast looking combiner the macross dudes and the Black mech that has the floating little red usless dog with him that never attacks the rest of my units are eiter sitting on the side lines ^^ and I boosted Jeegs mobility and he got blown away 3 times on a 5% chance on a boss fight yea he stinks :D Gundam Sand Rock is taking his place for agility :)

Jeeg is one of Go Nagai's Children, he doesnt know how to fail. Your just using him wrong, jk. lol

[Takara_Kitsune]

Well... I just wanted to say, I have both OGs and OGG on the way... and I managed to kill my PS2 during the modchip installation...

So... I don't have a working PS2 anymore. I'm ordering a replacement mainboard for it, and getting a Japanese PS2. I'm not going to screw around with unauthorized hardware again. >.>

If it breaks, I'll get it fixed by a specialist. I may be skilled with computers and network equipment, but I suck at surface-mount soldering... yet I'm an expert at non-surface soldering. So... if you're like me, and think you're good enough to solder it yourself, and you're "Experienced"... don't do it. I learned the hard way. I'm just lucky there are still repair parts for the thing...

[Kyoji]

It just kinda irks me that the games obviously have quite a following, and Atlus just kinda pushes it off to the side. But oh well. I'll just make due with my Alteisen Riese and Rein Weissritter modelkits until they actually release the damn thing over here (not holding my breath, darn you Atlus US decision makers. D: )

[Tatsuya Suou]

Hello all, I return to the OG thread after the Week of E3. I know that I posted the announcement of SRW NEO prior to this post but I have a reason. One thing I will like to say for those who view this thread, atlus faithful or guest from perhaps other forums, I have a secret that I will like to revile today. As many have already known by now, I am a persona user and fan of the SRW series. What I have to revile is who I was before I came here. It is said that a Persona is a materialization of you're other self, mine is that of my last forums (or rather image board) I was actively in. Just to finally get it out of my chest and tell the truth as to why I know so much about SRW; here is my PERSONA!..... I was once known as Metalman W.9 (http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6356/1222120612744.jpg)………..I am a member of /m/ from 4chan. I'm am sure I don't need to explain much but just this, for what its worth, I was one of the sane ones on /m/. The /m/ image board of 4chan was an ideal place to find pictures and discuss about all kinds of mecha related things both new and old. For quite some time it was one of the best boards around due to its lack of trolls or those who will do every thing to destroy a good thread. That is until last year when things turned for the worst and /m/ slowly start to decay. For a long time I was what was known as a "lurker" meaning that even though I spend most of my time at /m/, (to get info on SRW and on suggestions on robot anime; not to mention hard to find pics on any mecha I want) I did not interact with the community of /m/. That is until one day someone started a discussion on one of my all time favorite megaman games, Megaman Legends. In truth the only time I post something at /m/ was to get a question answered but this time I decided, you know lets have a good talk about Legends. To my surprise it was a success; not only did we have good discussions at a time of instability of /m/'s status but posted good stuff to keep it going for a strait 10 threads in a row. Around the second or third thread there was confusion on who was who, because I started the second one and anons was getting confused when a question was asked. In the beginning there were three of us who kept the threads going, One had a name (or as known in 4chan a tripcode) Andy Waltfeld. He handle the more random things that kept the threads, which are now called the /m/ega threads, from getting too stale. The other was an Anonymous like me and the first who started the threads. He and I was the two that every one was getting confused of since he started them and I continued them. Around the sixth thread that was made he deiced to call himself Flashman (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7855/4435854.png). Not only he was responsible for starting the threads in the first place but he is working on a project to make and anime OVA style FLASH for Megaman Legends because it dose not have one. And last is myself. For close to the tenth and final thread in the "original /m/egam treads I still didn't have a name. Keep in mind that I was a lurker and did not know what affect having a name will do. So in the end I went by the name Metalman Trigger to reflect on the majority of the threads being that of MML. But by the time I settled with a name and continued on I found that we went a thread more than what we agreed on. So at thread eleven I decided to but an end to the on going /m/egatheads and the three of us(who at the time was called the Sage Trinity (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/236/threewisemen.jpg) lol) went our separate ways. Afterwards I went back to browsing around and once I saw that there was still interest of megaman in /m/ that I decided to return with the new and determine name, Metalman W.9.(however to keep me in a Anonymous persons I did not made a tripcode) My goal for /m/egathrreads was to bring content mostly from my own archives. And to get this out of the way, to prove I am the original Metalman W.9 (and not some copy) I will post two images from the old threads. One is a pic that I found that if you are both a fan of megaman and a fan of gundam, this here (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/911/1208922012751.png) will show you the connection between the two. The other is related to the first in which I parody MML with Turn-A gundam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6NbNEP8Il8) over here (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8388/rockmanturnaintrofixed.png). I do not know the rest of the internets thoughts on 4chan but for what its worth it got me up to date information on all things mecha and helped with my skills in positing. (not to mention find others who are as crazy as me :seesaw: For some time I haven’t been on /m/ with up to date info. For reasons I don't want to get into I have been banned for something so small. However I just got it removed after the long wait so I now I see /m/ with no problems. (aside from spam bots infestation, codename V and usual trolls) From what I see it is better than it was (for the most part) and it has geared to Kamen Rider. So this is who I am members of altus forums, take it as you will and enjoy one more treasure from the megatheads with a touch of Kamen Rider here (http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5135/1223134181051.jpg).

By now many of you are wondering, "what the hell dose this have to do with SRT:OG?!" ..Not a damn thing! lol I just wanted to show that little secret about me and show off how I know all things SRT. It is also explains my new look as of late, I decided to go back to one of my favorite things in the Megaman saga. And for those who don’t know, this is my "calling card"… (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEM7y5_5WDQ)

Now onto SRT, these past two weeks after E3 have been interesting to say the least. On a similar way that it was handled, we have a interview here (http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/12/the-e3-2009-shin-megami-tensei-interview-part-1/) about Growlanser, Like OG, it said that there are no plans for Growlanser to the US. I am personally supporting both and want Growlanser just as much as I do OG. I find it interesting that the two games that are wanted the most in the atlus forums get a "no plans" answer. I have a theory on that, like the admins on this thread, the one who "Spencer" is interviewing cant really say anything but we have no plans on a high demand game. It reminds me on this (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/09/25/will-endless-frontier-super-robot-taisen-og-saga-generate-raunchy-jokes-overseas/) older preview on Endless Frontier on because of Namco Bandai involvement with Banpresto, it is believe that the game will be released only by NB and thus remove content. We all know that it was done by atlus in the end. I think it was discussed a few pages back and it was Inzaghi who stepped up and answered it. As of right now the SRT name is under Banpresto's control, but keep in mind that they are now part of Namco Bandai. ( Now I PM this with Takara_Kitsune and we agreed that if NB is responsible for bring OG than we can kiss any hope left goodbye) The interesting part that this was somewhat pointed out on the Endless Frontier preview, however not only atlus had full control of the game but kept every thing intact.(innuendo, kos-mos, ect) So I believe the ultimate question that must be answered somehow is, exactly how Namco bandai and atlus collaborate when it comes to the SRT games. It may hold the answer to not only OG but non-OG (licensed) SRT games as to if it is even possible to see them in the US. I know that no body from atlus can answer that because as far as I am considered, they really don't know themselves and can only say for now we have no plans. For all we know the game is in the works for localization but is on halt due to negotiations with NB. I believe that once they gives us something than a "no plans for the game" than we will know the truth.(ex. would be if it has that negotiations with NB failed and thus couldn't bring the game over)

Another thing that can be the issue is that if it dose get announced than it will be too late to make the money worth wile. Who knows why they waited this long but if they do it than it maybe the same as the ones in OG1 and 2 for the gba. The greatest mistake for that is atlus brought it near the handhelds lifespan was up. I believe that this game will be remade for newer consoles like PS3 and 360. Banpresto' already made there first step in the next-gen jump with NEO. If OG will have an improved version for the PS3/360 than I am sure atlus will have to localize it right away as a means to but a rest to this two-year demand for the PS2 version. Plus since it will most likely be the first SRW game to be fully voiced then a dub might follow suit.

That is how I go about this, you may take this as you like as well. For now I will take an leave of this thread; I do not have anything more to add for it and do not want to bump it for the sake of keeping the thread alive. (I know only to return only to leave but it is best for now) I'll still be around the forums and will post anything relating SRT I can find. I am a /m/an after all so I have sources. With that being said I have a gift I will like to give to every one. There hasn’t been much activity as of late and it is for the best right now. This link below is The Gate of Magus, a database of information on all of OG. And by OG I don't mean just the ones in this game but on the whole SRW series.

[Tatsuya Suou]

Oh and I mixed out on text space. LOL

I guess there is one last thing I can say is this. For those who say that SRT is a niche series, well the same can be said about the Persona series, same can be said about Trauma Center, same can be said about Disgaea, same can be said about Final Fantasy. (..ok that last one is a stretch) What I am getting at is that all games that are aren’t’ known outside of Japan has the potential of being a hit in the US. (the games I put as an example are of once niche games become great in there own way). And I see even now there are still many who find the gba games and see how fun and addiction it can be. I know many are now saying non-OG games are still an impossibility; I posted my theory on how it would work here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117274&postcount=1324) and here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117275&postcount=1325). SRT is waiting and it WILL be an SRPG to remember. I know many of you now are settling for downloadable content as a last resort, but as far as I know atlus isn't doing much with that and besides it deserves to be in a physical format with spoils. I know I am asking much with the spoils but to get those who already imported the game and don't care to buy it again, they will need to make something special with it. (be it anything that was discussed before)

Oh and Takara_Kitsune; Banpresto is still making games along with NB. One is Queen's Blade Spiral Chaos (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3361)and another is a New SRW for the Wii (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3791). You’re list dose point out what I said before that right now altus can't announce the game even if they can. I know for a fact that both atlus and E3 has changed as a whole, unless it is a major company (Sony, Capcom, Konami ect.) then smaller companies like atlus and NIS won’t announce much. Like atlus, I don't think NIS America had any announce for E3.
I said before the better choices is for them to wait until Banpresto remake OG/OGG for the PS3.( After all it isn't the first SRT game they remade for a newer console) If it somehow does get announced then it will most likely be atlus last PS2 game. I'm sorry about your ps2, but this is why I don't mod my own if I had one. If anything I would have a back up if I were to mod a unit. I'll PM on you on that when I can.

And to Zeta_Nova, you think imports are for losers? Pyschotaku (http://www.screwattack.com/myvidsdontsuck/Semi2/Pyschotaku) disagrees with you. LOL:D But seriously, even though I said before I can't import like I used to do I am in no means against importing a game if it won't come to the US. I would have already played this game, alpha trilogy, Z and others if I could. I know Takara_Kitsune mentioned swap magic, mod or Japanese’s console but it would still require me to buy a ps2 either way and am still saving up on a new PS3. Trust me there are a lot of good import games out there, so if you can find one worth you while. Also, did you get that thing I sent you, aka PM?

Lord Eternal, if you're worry about the English voices than my OG dub project (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3133) is the place for you; I'm happy it reached 2000+ views. But as I mentioned, having this remade for the PS3 would make it easier to for better English voices and dual audio, which the game must have to please everybody.

Kyoji, I know you and others think it is atlus fault for no OG, but like I said the most likely reason is Namco Bandai. Right now they can't say anything on the mater without giving fans any indication. After all NB just won the war against Atari on the Dragonball games; more on that here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3921).

Also there is talk about having the ART-1 for spoils. Even though it is a sweet mecha as shown here (http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5601/srwhotnewskotoart14.jpg), it is for Real lovers. Don't get me wrong I love it just as much as anyone else, but it I was to chose between that and THE SWORD THAT CLAVES EVIL (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6323/dsc0023x.jpg) for a limited edition than I would go for Super. That is the main reason to have a Gespenst for a figurine because it can be a Real and a Super so everyone wins. :) A good example of a limited edition I am looking forward to is BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3770/blazblue.jpg) for the PS3. (sigh, even though I have to buy it before I get enough money for a new unit)

I had a SRT inspired dreams around the time of E3 too. We got an announcement of of OG come to the US in the winter and to follow it we get an shocking announcement of SRW alpha trilogy and Z for the PS3. It will be the talk of /m/ for how impossible this was, but here it is. It would be the second game to be a surprised announcement next to TVC. And then I get a PM of an atlus admin saying that because it's coming to the US that they are looking into some of my VA's in my dub thread....I know; insane right.

I like that some of you are playing alpha 3 and see how awesome it is, I wish I could play it. I wonder what are you're favorite Banpresto Originals in it and you do you think could be in OG3?


Also there are those who do want this but will see that like the gba ones, it still leave many wanting more. Many /m/en like me are waiting patiently for the continuation of the OG story. Although the main characters from ATX is done, team SRX still has so much to accomplish. We still need to see the OG debut of Rai-Oh (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7435/1239683616796.jpg). We still need to have Shin Koryuou (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4126/5fqn.png) and Shin Ryukoou (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3568/m06008.jpg) in OG. We need to see if the F team (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/985/39d336734a247c1d8601b05.jpg) will make an appearance. We have yet to see the New Aggressors (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5650/alpha3.jpg) in OG. We also need to see of other Banpresto Originals in OG like Team J (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4430/sampleaa555c8914694c04a.jpg) and SRW W's largest mecha in the SRW saga, The Valzacard (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7447/4538111.jpg). We also have yet to see the clash of two Elemental Lords (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8527/p35i.jpg) or the Heat crusher (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4828/1867237.png) makes its way to OG. I personally would like to see EF to guest appear in OG, like suzuka on a full sized Jaki-Gun-Oh (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8896/1302278.jpg) or two similar OG characters meting for the first time (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9196/1210606776939.jpg). The cast still have enemies that yet to be in SRT: OG as shown here (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9857/1217087236958.jpg). We still have yet to see in OG a warrior with the one he swore to protect (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1081/606c7973e71dcc2cec48b70.jpg). We also have yet to see team SRX's ultimate final weapon (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5735/01b55f1020f066fdc2ce794.jpg) and last but not least; we need to see the two sides (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2715/23d94b9070219d94a877a47.jpg) of the TIME DIVER (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2023/645247.jpg). (As you can see there is a lot win has yet to be done in OG) And on my time back at /m/ I found that if a new OG were to be made than it would most likely be with a new cast, I just hope they finish at least SRX storyline.

I suggest everyone who is waiting for OG and have already finished with the gba ones, play SRW Alpha Gaiden. It plays like any other SRW game, it is a solid game for the ps1 and most importantly there is a translation to it. I do not mind importing if I am able to and if the game has a translation. (NXC has one but I am unable to play it) Now I will not tell you how to find the game or the translation, but if you PM me I can give you a hint.

One last thing I would like to say although I said I have no way of playing it, I do have ways of finding them with no problem. I will not say how but if you wish to know my secrets of my time in /m/ then PM me if you like. ( an example of my skills as a /m/an I'll show off a little pic of Valsione (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9991/srwhotnewsoghgb1.jpg)from a new OG art book) My dub thread have at last reached over 2000 views, I post something their one day. I leave this with one last video below, it song is from another game that is said to be one of the best in robot games, Another Century's Episode 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYlfiaPehrc&feature=related). The video is what I used to get me though the deepest of downers and bring forth true Courage, Guts, Bravery, win and Epic all in one. It is of course from @3 and it is one of the greatest I can find; Plus I will add one more great video that tributes the Alpha saga. As I said, I'll respond to any questions if you have them and if you want to PM me on something in relates to anything mecha than fell free. So until we find out more at the end of the year, I will take my leave. Good bye for now.......persona.

The Gate of Magus - Banpresto Originals Database
(http://srwog.velv.net/)
SRW Alpha Just Forever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLUkwnoMS2E&mode=related&search=)

SRW sinku the Crimson
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a3Xk2AuXUk&feature=related)

[Kyoji]

That's... wall-o-text-licious. x_x

I can't read it, for it hurts my mind.

Also, Tatsuya, I place no blame on Atlus for not bringing over OGs sooner. I just think it's irritating that it's been out for so long and there hasn't even been an attempt to talk with the fans and actually get it released. All we've actually had is this thread, and it's obviously not seen anything other than hopes and dreams, but never anything actually concrete.

At this point, however, I've given up on seeing a US release of OGS. I'll have to either learn Japanese or wait for a script and/or fan translation to get my fill. And if I do learn Japanese, then I'll be able to play all the SRWs out there anyway.

[Tatsuya Suou]

:tongue: Sorry for all of that, I have been working on it for weeks.

Anyway I just think the culprit behind all this is NB. It just too bad that we might have though it would work with Endless Frontier coming this year. I’m willing to wait until I have means of important again.

Anyway, like I said I will no longer bump the thread but I will ask questions and give updates on anything SRW.

[Steel Greyfalke]

don't forget the originals in D

[Steel Greyfalke]

Speakin of SRT Spoils Didn't Volks actually Make G Compatible Kaiser & Ialdabaoth Action Figures/ Chogokins , if anybody can tell me the price of one? ,

[growlanservoter]

I just bought a 1/144 scale model of WildWrugar :D I just got my seolla figure and my falken in the mail so time to put her together :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

Goin in to the past What was the first SRT Game you've ever played?
For me it was SRT EX (SFC)

[System_Error]

I will laugh if Atlus is just trolling you guys and releases this game. the summer does seem mighty bleak.

[mlisette23]

I will laugh if Atlus is just trolling you guys and releases this game. the summer does seem mighty bleak.

So does everything after October, which is really weird considering how many games Atlus released earlier this year.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I will laugh if Atlus is just trolling you guys and releases this game. the summer does seem mighty bleak.

I don't really care. If they release it, fine. I'll buy it in English. But I have my lovely Japanese versions in case they don't. :3

So no worries from me. :3 If there's one thing that can be counted on, I'll always support the English release of a game even if I have the Japanese version. For two reasons: Voting with my money, and even though I am capable of playing them in Japanese doesn't mean I'm going to be all elitist about it. I really would like if everyone who wanted to could play. (Which reminds me, I really hate when people get mad about a game getting localized just because they imported it. I find that generally annoying. If a game is good, EVERYONE should play it! :3)

[Diarma]

I too will buy all the English versions of Japanese RPGs they release to support them as much as I can. But I fear we will have to wait for a fan translation in the next 5 - 10 years, or until some wise guy creates an application that translates Japanese text to english...

[Tatsuya Suou]

I will laugh if Atlus is just trolling you guys and releases this game. the summer does seem mighty bleak.

Heh, it won't be the first time I've been trolled on a grand scale. There have already been two times this month; one is from a legend in trolling known as Kamen Rider V3! (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1966/1246581604860.jpg) and the other is.....this link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDivT6hj9Vw&fmt=18)

Anyway I say that it will be a mistake if atlus were to released it on a console that isn't making anymore games.(unless they announced it for the PS3) I want the SRT to become a permit franchise that is on par with Persona, not some one shot game like they did with the gba games. I still believe that by some crazy way, if it dose become big then atlus could release SRW games with licensed characters. (starting with Alpha) And speaking of the Alpha games, I just finished a discussion with /m/ that it will be a very long time to see any translations to Alpha 2 and 3. (and I am sure most will find learning Japanese is more difficult and for me I don't have the time and am too lazy)

And very good words, Takara_Kitsune; I too can't stand when people bitch and wine that they will have to buy a game twice because they imported or worse not buy it at all.

So if atlus brings this I hope they will surprise us with not only this game, but as Yet Another Tim mentions, having Namco Bandai step up and co-publish the SRW rights so there will be no more problems with NB.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Let's hope NB Dosent have problems whith this Franchise

[Super Robot Fan]

I agree with Takara_Kitsune, I have imported both of the games and I am playing it now. If this were to be released in English, I would pick it up in a heart beat.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I havent ordered mine Yet but Im Gonna make a n over sized bokken Shaped like Grungust Reishiki 's Zankantou sometime.

[Lord Eternal]

I swear, if Atlus is just pulling our leg and is developing this secretly, I would laugh until I passed out, then go buy the game.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well if this happens I'm Juust gonna Crank up The Benny Hill theme as how hilarious this is...

[Shunyata]

First off i would like to say holy hell this thread is long. Next Bamco has already produced a next gen SRW offering on the 360. If I remember correctly it was poorly accepted. I believe the Wii one will be a high point but Banpresto is loosing ground with fans by turning the franchise into a 3d one. I also think that Banpresto has lost its edge with two super robot games oddly titled similarly, Neo Super Robot Wars and Super Robot Wars Neo. I also want to add that if Atlus has announced that SRW-OGG will not be localized then they should sticky it as a seperate thread and lock out this thread. I think Atlus is desperate right now. They want to play it safe, and SRPG's are not giant sellers. I will fight to keep this thread alive but we cannot convolute it with postings about "What persona we used to be in other forums". If you wanted to announce who you were then do so in the appropriate places and keep this thread for 'hate', 'robot patriotism', and speculation only.

And Atlus, in all honesty get off your ronson's and figure something out so that we can move on.

LoCaLize SuPEr RobOT WARs OrigINal GeneRATIONS PoR FaVoR

[Yet Another Tim]

Guys, reasons why I want Namco Bandai to step in and co-publish this OGs with Atlus USA consist of the following:

--I don't want Atlus USA get into a scenario with Namco Bandai, reeking of Atari's loss of the Dragon Ball game rights. It even made Atari closer for Chapter 11.

--This would allow Namco Bandai to learn to localize one of its own series, with help from Atlus USA, while teaching them the importance of marketing Big-in-Japan franchises... in America!

--This would give a proper swan song to Atlus USA's involvement with the localization process, while the fans get to see how Namco Bandai will take over the subsequent installments

PS: Should SRW: OG go home to Namco Bandai, it would be wise for NBGA to make a SRW-related move, by taking a page or two from Ouendan-->EBA.

SRW: OG x Gundam

That way, Namco Bandai would be able to promote SRW: OG, with help from its flagship mecha franchise, Gundam.

[Steel Greyfalke]

SRW: OG x Gundam

That way, Namco Bandai would be able to promote SRW: OG, with help from its flagship mecha franchise, Gundam.

Hmm maybe we'll see RX-78CA in this one too

[Zeta_Nova]

Unbelievable, after all this you guys still hang on to that hope. Dispite A.J giving his final unfortunate say on the matter? If it was me, I would've given up.

Seems that Atlus doesn't cater to their fans as much as said licensors; FUNimation, Bandai Entertainment etc...

[Steel Greyfalke]

I know it's Crazy but Might be the 2nd biggest Thead on Atlus to date (i think) but im a Mech patriot Who ever Publishes it I'll buy it Anyway

[Yet Another Tim]

Zeta Nova, one of the trademarks of a Super Robot series consists of three Latin words:

Deus Ex Machina

We're hoping for this to happen.

[happysmiles!]

srw patriots unite!!

[Steel Greyfalke]

Let me Crank up the Getter Robo Theme then ! XDDDD

[Shunyata]

cant forget the Mazinger theme also....

Dah dah da, dah dah da, da dah da da da da dah

[Steel Greyfalke]

a New Mazinger Remake was Released in Japan a few months ago & I have yet to see it..... -_-

[Takara_Kitsune]

Unbelievable, after all this you guys still hang on to that hope. Dispite A.J giving his final unfortunate say on the matter? If it was me, I would've given up.

Seems that Atlus doesn't cater to their fans as much as said licensors; FUNimation, Bandai Entertainment etc...

I don't necessarily hang onto it. I do think it's a rather hypocritical move of me to buy the Japanese versions. I say I'd still buy an English version if it happens. And I am serious there. I will buy that without question. And A.J. didn't actually give anything final about it. It was unfortunate, yes. But... Atlus can deny anything they want. I deny that I broke my PS2 installing a modchip! I can deny it, but you know what? I broke my PS2 trying to install a modchip. (And promptly bought a new one, meanwhile screwing myself out of some imports this month. Sucks, but I can't live without a PS2. Well, I can. I just choose not to.)

And... Atlus caters more than FUNimation, and especially more than Bandai Entertainment... I laugh at that second one because... The parent company of Bandai Entertainment, Bandai Namco Holdings, is probably involved with our lack of OGs and OGG. In fact, Bandai Namco Holdings forcibly took back the rights to the Dragonball anime properties from FUNimation. It's like The Pokemon Company with the Pokemon anime being forcibly taken back from 4Kids, except that FUNimation actually did a good job with the localization of Dragonball (censorship wise, it's minimal. They didn't cut episodes for use of guns or sexual innuendo. Or violence. Or the flu. Or potentially offensive characters. >.>) I guess FUNimation caters quite a bit, though. But Atlus does release a hell of a lot of niche games, you know. It's not like they're not catering... heh... that'd be like saying Sony caters more to the hardcore gamer than Microsoft. Both pretty much cater equally, when you get down to it... everything else is end-user perception.

Anyway, final point: I haven't given up, but I don't expect anything, either.

cant forget the Mazinger theme also....

Dah dah da, dah dah da, da dah da da da da dah

I'm a bit more particular to Mazinkaiser's theme. ^^ But that's just me. :3 I rather like the entire "Super Robot Song Request Best" collection.

[growlanservoter]

Takara like you I cant live without my PS2s lol and I just got OG Gaden in the mail so now I am playing 5 SRT games at once. I have to say I am getting burned out a bit and the games are startign to merge lol. I looked at my Alpah 3 team and was like dang where is Excellen and my fully upgraded Weiss :D or When I was playing OG and spent 30min hunting down Kira to give him SP up >< I fully bame this board for this addiction lol :D
P.S. this board is the longest running on the bards.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I have my OG Gaiden, it just got here yesterday. (It's the Limited Edition box... very nice. Play-Asia is awesome for having it on sale. :3)

Sadly, that little story about the modchip that I've already repeated a few times... it's very true, so I unfortunately don't have a console that can play Japanese games right now. I need to determine what I'm going to do about that fairly soon... But at least I know I have the game, so I won't miss out. :3

[Enzeru]

So the PS2 version is like a retelling of OG1 and OG2, right? I'm playing 1 right now since it just arrived today, and it's awesome!

[Super Robot Fan]

Actually, the PS2 version is almost the same as OG1 and OG2 but with some extra stages and there is also an extra of OG2.5, even though 2.5 is short in OGS it continues on to OGG.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I'lll Have to buy some thing like a Freeloader For my Ps2 if im gonna Buy this.. -_-

[Tatsuya Suou]

New long post in 3…2….1!

Yet Another Tim

Y.A.T, I summon “Copycat”, it gives my power to copy your catchphrase…in America!

I totally agree with you all but one thing OG x Gundam; as I posted awhile back that, even though Gundam is a great robot series, there will be some who won’t like an SRW game with only “Reals” like Gundam in it. (that is one of the main issues with the up and coming SRW NEO and its abundance of Supers, with close to no reals) I don’t want the series to result to having only one robot series in it. The OG series is for Banpresto Originals ONLY, having Gundams in it will mess up the whole thing. (it’ll just might as well be called SRW: Gundam edition) Besides we already have Gundams in OG, they’re called Huckebeins. (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1883/12237824199.jpg) My concern is that even if NB were to do that and make an OG x Gundam then not only will it be an issue of an overabundance or Reals but it'll still most likely not come to the US. I still don’t get why they have only released one Gundam related game for next gen in the US while so many are made in Japan; I know that they need to get back popularity after losing with SEED and there failed marketing of Gundam model kits with the new 00, but it would help if we see more Gundam games that are not a dynasty warriors clone…in America!!!

And totally agree on that, Deus Ex Machina is indeed what will happen in this thread. And when it comes to two characters in OG whose ending is much different from og 1 & 2.

Although it is a good idea I would like for NB and atlus to make negotiations with the five companies who currently dub most of the robot anime. More on that is in my insane theory in both here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117274&postcount=1324) and here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117275&postcount=1325). I also would like if NB were to give atlus most of the controls in the localization like they somehow did with Endless frontier. (kudos for the translation, atlus )All in all I want, SRW to be just as big as Persona and become an addicting SRPG game that have your favorite robots in all different shows… in America!!!


Steel Greyfalke

I have had means to add D to my list of things I want for future OG games but I could not find any good pictures of the mecha.
The only pics of SRW D I can find are sexy pics of Cliana Rimskaya (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4123/topzandcliana.jpg) (which I don’t mind) There is only one good pic and it is a Gatai pic of Forte Gigas (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/31/5jzq.jpg).

The one you’re talking about is Shin Mazinger-Z, it is right now halfway done with 14 episodes already subbed. I have a little clip of it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6eBBaG82A); you know if there is one new super robot anime I want Bandai or FUNimation to bring to the US it is this, next to Kotetsushin Jeeg.

As far as I know the freeloaders that exist is called Swap Magic, it only works for the original PS2s but it gets the job done with no problem. I would buy one two but I don't have any means to buy an old model and I still want a translation to the damn game. I mean if @2 and @3 are any indication then this won't get a fan translation like @G any time soon.

Zeta_Nova

It isn’t me who keeps this thread going, besides things chance in many things. You can be negative all you want but there are many here who will keep this going. (even though It is pointless to ask for the PS2 one right now) As Takara_Kitsune said, atlus dose caters lot of niche games, so if anyone can bring this it would be them. Besides as I said before, the most likely cause is NB, A.J may have said they have no plans to avoid completely saying no we will not bring OG to the US, and to clam down the OG thread. (In which he failed in the latter) I believe that it will work like this: ATLUS: we are bring Super Robot Taisen OG to the US. Every one on the OG thread: YES we are getting OG for the PS2!! ATLUS:…we didn’t say anything about bringing it to the PS2; SRT OG coming soon for playstaion 3…..did you like it…!

Super Robot Fan

I may have to disagree; if you mean story wise then you’re half right. This game has all new content with storylines from characters of other SRW games. And something else that is a spoil so read if you dare: As many have played so far, in the end of OG2 both Axel Arma and Alfimi Einst both died. In the PS2 version of OGG by using her Einst powers, Alfimi manages to save both Axel and her by "fusing with each other". I learned that shocking truth from a thread at /m/. Plus the PS2 version improves form the gba ones in every way.

Shunyata

I assume you mean Shin Super Robot Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zY6WytImI) in witch is called more than Neo super robot wars. I didn't know it was called Neo SRW until you mentioned it. Fun fact, shin was the first game to introduce the SRX team storyline as shown here an variable formation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fqW2HjWM0).

Not to sound like I’m bashing the 360, but most the first Japanese games that came on it didn’t turned out well. As I posted it on the updates here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=124421#post124421), Neo is looking to improve on what XO failed on. As far I SRPG’s, you think there not great sellers; then I assume you don’t know how big Disgaea is. (…I hope that Overlord Laharl kid don’t come back here..) I know that because of the one game that once was localized by atlus, the Disgaea series became a franchise for NIS America. Whose to say the same won’t happen with SRT; if anything it can bring more interest to SRPGS. Take growlanservoter, who became addicted to the series by one or two games. Atlus is doing much better than other mid level companies out there.

You know that it is pointless to ask for the thread to be locked or have atlus post a sticky saying there not releasing it. As I said again and again, the REAL reason I think atlus isn't bringing this is because of trouble with Namco Bandai. Due to it taking too long to resolve they have said FOR NOW we have no plans for OG for the PS2. (Because no one from atlus has corrected me on this like when Inzaghi stepped in and said who currently held the name of SRT; I can say for sure that his is most likely the case) This is what I said after my expose to the forums.

I’m sorry you didn’t like my creative post, (and inside joke for people who play P3/P4) I posted it for to reasons, one is because some here wanted to know how I feel with the events of E3 and the other is because I want to. And as I posted on this old thread here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3569) that I lost my chance to introduce myself the way I want to and say the hell with it and moved on.

Sorry you thought my post was convoluted but I wanted to expose how I know so much, if didn’t like my post then oh well. I owe /m/ with most of my mecha knowledge. You’re lucky I’m not from /v/ were I would go on about being an atlus fan makes you fat( ie fatlus) or whatever the reason they call atlus fans that. (and would most likely be removed from the forums, and rightfully so) I just wanted to show that I come from a band of crazed robot fans and to show the forums that there is someone with the knowledge and insanity to add in the cause. And while I’m on the topic, why the hell do you want to have the thread bumped with ‘hate', 'robot patriotism', and speculation only? The 'robot patriotism' is one thing but why do you want to keep it going with pointless post. And before you say my post was pointless, if you bother to read after my time at /m/, then I explained that I don’t want this thread to go for post to post. Personally I wanted to end this with 50 pages, but I didn’t get that wish. Besides I don’t think being on /m/ is to bad, I’m sure the likes of Olethros and SickleCellAnemia may have just as crazy places they went before settling here. Another reason it is how I put “ a super long post” is because there are those who post here and I don’t have the time to post what I want to say quickly. (this post took two days to complete and it was only because it is close to the weekend.) So sorry if you didn’t like my long post, no hard feelings:)……..But if anyone else has a problem with me then it is a Metal Blade (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4549/cw2metalman.jpg) to the Face.

Steel Greyfalke and Takara_Kitsune
My friends :grouphug:

I have many themes to keep the blood boiling, some that I have posed in my vids. Most are from JAM project like this Non-SRW one from GARO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBB6Yj_iilE&feature=related) And some form macross like M7 Heart and Soul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R06olgzAP-I) (epic end) and Information High (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxiMz3w2sM&feature=related) But right now I am enjoying the Mazinger-Z upgrade, Shin Mazinger-Z Kanjite Knight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUcLuw-3GA). Baddass!!!

So thus ends another long post, I meant what I said that I would no longer keep the thread up for the sake of staying on the front page in the boards. That dose not mean that I don’t' support this, I am just like Takara_Kitsune and growlanservoter, that I want it but don't expect it no time soon. (but unlike those to, I still can't play the import) I want every one to remember one thing, unless atlus corrects me on this, I am positive that all of this is because of NB cockbloking atlus chance to bring this the right way. I'll post something in regards to any news SRW related or it I want to replies to another’s post.

So I’ll see you around.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Nice Cliana pic! , Well i'll see if someone can sell me a Jpn PS2 w/Power converter ,but i dont know if memory cards are region free , so look around

[Yet Another Tim]

New long post in 3…2….1!

Yet Another Tim

Y.A.T, I summon “Copycat”, it gives my power to copy your catchphrase…in America!

I know that they need to get back popularity after losing with SEED and there failed marketing of Gundam model kits with the new 00, but it would help if we see more Gundam games that are not a dynasty warriors clone…in America!!!

And totally agree on that, Deus Ex Machina is indeed what will happen in this thread. And when it comes to two characters in OG whose ending is much different from og 1 & 2.

Although it is a good idea I would like for NB and atlus to make negotiations with the five companies who currently dub most of the robot anime. More on that is in my insane theory in both here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117274&postcount=1324) and here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=117275&postcount=1325). I also would like if NB were to give atlus most of the controls in the localization like they somehow did with Endless frontier. (kudos for the translation, atlus )All in all I want, SRW to be just as big as Persona and become an addicting SRPG game that have your favorite robots in all different shows… in America!!!

You know that it is pointless to ask for the thread to be locked or have atlus post a sticky saying there not releasing it. As I said again and again, the REAL reason I think atlus isn't bringing this is because of trouble with Namco Bandai. Due to it taking too long to resolve they have said FOR NOW we have no plans for OG for the PS2. (Because no one from atlus has corrected me on this like when Inzaghi stepped in and said who currently held the name of SRT; I can say for sure that his is most likely the case) This is what I said after my expose to the forums.


So thus ends another long post, I meant what I said that I would no longer keep the thread up for the sake of staying on the front page in the boards. That dose not mean that I don’t' support this, I am just like Takara_Kitsune and growlanservoter, that I want it but don't expect it no time soon. (but unlike those to, I still can't play the import) I want every one to remember one thing, unless atlus corrects me on this, I am positive that all of this is because of NB cockbloking atlus chance to bring this the right way. I'll post something in regards to any news SRW related or it I want to replies to another’s post.

So I’ll see you around.

Tatsuya Suou, "SCREW THE RULES, I HAVE MONEY!!" I activate the trap card, Chain Disappearance, to remove Copycat from play AND allow me to keep abusing memes... in America! :p

Hmm... Endless Frontier is my gateway to OG; man, I just need to continue with this crash course. Heh, I just learned today that Huckbein units are Gundam expies.

Also, I didn't know that that's how bad 00 is doing. I swear, someone at Namco Bandai's marketing department needs to be FIRED, seeing how Namco Bandai's flagship mecha franchise, Gundam, is being inadequately marketed. Since that's the case (Gundam and OG, both being Real Robots), I swear, Namco Bandai seriously needs to jump into the crossover fighting game bandwagon, seeing how Capcom USA is the king of crossover fighting... in America! How? A Super Robot Wars fighting game; hell, I'm itching for a tag team of Gundam Deathscythe (Duo Maxwell) and Angelg (Lamia Loveless).

Yeah, it's painfully clear that NBGA brought over a game THEY think the North American market wants; note to Namco Bandai: Americans want Japanese games... in America!

Stop milking Dragon Ball and start milking Tales, Namco Bandai; or else, I'll ask the Xenosaga fanbase to demand you to sell off Xenosaga to Nintendo.

Oh, by the way, Takara_Kitsune gave us this point, in another thread:

Takara Kitsune, guess how profitable Dragon Ball is, in comparison to Namco Bandai's in-house Tales, SRW: OG, and Summon Night combined.

Yes, that's right: IT'S OVER 9000!

WHAT!? 9000!?

But yes, seriously, I'm aware that Dragon Ball is pretty profitable. However, in that respect, Namco Bandai does actually use Dragon Ball to set the bar for others. Meaning... to obtain the license for other stuff, Tales, SRT, etc... I'm willing to bet they charge equal to what they would for Dragon Ball stuff.

It's just stupid that they actually expect to make an equal amount of money on something that isn't equally as popular. It's better to make even a 1% profit on something while 50% goes to someone else, and the other 49% to production costs, than making nothing at all on it.

[Takara_Kitsune]

Nice Cliana pic! , Well i'll see if someone can sell me a Jpn PS2 w/Power converter ,but i dont know if memory cards are region free , so look around

Actually, if you're in the US or Canada, you're all set on the power adapter. Japanese power outlets are 100Volts at 50Hz, and US outlets are 110/120Volts at 60Hz. The power supplies for the Playstation series are rated to handle both. So if you get a Japanese PS2, you're actually all set. If you're anywhere else in the world... you may want to look into getting a special adapter. ^^; Especially if you're in Europe. 240volts at 50Hz there.


Anyway, to reply to everything else, I just want to be clear, Malik Blishtar has absolutely nothing to do with Marik Ishtar. Absolutely not.

And also that... I think if we are left to count on Namco Bandai for this at all... it's going to be moderately hopeless. Main reasoning from my point of view: Namco Bandai hates remakes. (Of games that didn't sell because they didn't advertise). All I have to say: Tales of Destiny Director's Cut. That could have sold. And quite well, for that matter. OGs is a remake of Game Boy Advance games that were released already. Go figure, they'll take it into account. This includes if they were going to license it out, by the way. Oh. And charge over 9000 times what the game is worth to them. >.>;

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well Banpresto Made Super Robot Spirits (mind you the worst selling SRT of all time) + I think If that was made Capcom should help W/development since they made Tech Romancer & Helped develop Federation v.s. Zeon (it says so on the back side of the box in fine print)......

[growlanservoter]

If you have an english ps2 just use the power cord from that instead of the one the Jap ps2 comes with. And yes memory cards are region free I have all my SRT, Growlanser, and Fate//unlimited codes data saved on my memory cards which are my 2 originals.

[Super Robot Fan]

@Tatsuya Suou, I believe you may be right, however I wouldn't know if the story of both OG1 and OG2 match up to the GBA version since I just started playing. There is also the fact that I am playing using some Kanji I know and my katakana and hiragana. But thanks for telling me the story is different, I think I will look for a faqs or translation guide of the story after I finish the game.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Speaking of OG/OGG would anyone here Cosplay as a Gespenst/Gespenst Kai if you had the chance? I would:D

[Shunyata]

"Shunyata

I assume you mean Shin Super Robot Wars in witch is called more than Neo super robot wars. I didn't know it was called Neo SRW until you mentioned it. Fun fact, shin was the first game to introduce the SRX team storyline as shown here an variable formation.

Not to sound like I’m bashing the 360, but most the first Japanese games that came on it didn’t turned out well. As I posted it on the updates here, Neo is looking to improve on what XO failed on. As far I SRPG’s, you think there not great sellers; then I assume you don’t know how big Disgaea is. (…I hope that Overlord Laharl kid don’t come back here..) I know that because of the one game that once was localized by atlus, the Disgaea series became a franchise for NIS America. Whose to say the same won’t happen with SRT; if anything it can bring more interest to SRPGS. Take growlanservoter, who became addicted to the series by one or two games. Atlus is doing much better than other mid level companies out there.

You know that it is pointless to ask for the thread to be locked or have atlus post a sticky saying there not releasing it. As I said again and again, the REAL reason I think atlus isn't bringing this is because of trouble with Namco Bandai. Due to it taking too long to resolve they have said FOR NOW we have no plans for OG for the PS2. (Because no one from atlus has corrected me on this like when Inzaghi stepped in and said who currently held the name of SRT; I can say for sure that his is most likely the case) This is what I said after my expose to the forums.

I’m sorry you didn’t like my creative post, (and inside joke for people who play P3/P4) I posted it for to reasons, one is because some here wanted to know how I feel with the events of E3 and the other is because I want to. And as I posted on this old thread here that I lost my chance to introduce myself the way I want to and say the hell with it and moved on.

Sorry you thought my post was convoluted but I wanted to expose how I know so much, if didn’t like my post then oh well. I owe /m/ with most of my mecha knowledge. You’re lucky I’m not from /v/ were I would go on about being an atlus fan makes you fat( ie fatlus) or whatever the reason they call atlus fans that. (and would most likely be removed from the forums, and rightfully so) I just wanted to show that I come from a band of crazed robot fans and to show the forums that there is someone with the knowledge and insanity to add in the cause. And while I’m on the topic, why the hell do you want to have the thread bumped with ‘hate', 'robot patriotism', and speculation only? The 'robot patriotism' is one thing but why do you want to keep it going with pointless post. And before you say my post was pointless, if you bother to read after my time at /m/, then I explained that I don’t want this thread to go for post to post. Personally I wanted to end this with 50 pages, but I didn’t get that wish. Besides I don’t think being on /m/ is to bad, I’m sure the likes of Olethros and SickleCellAnemia may have just as crazy places they went before settling here. Another reason it is how I put “ a super long post” is because there are those who post here and I don’t have the time to post what I want to say quickly. (this post took two days to complete and it was only because it is close to the weekend.) So sorry if you didn’t like my long post, no hard feelings……..But if anyone else has a problem with me then it is a Metal Blade to the Face."






Disgaea is no longer a high seller. If I remember the third one did extremely poorly over here in the states, hence all the re-releases of the older games on different platforms. They are sucking it dry. In terms of SRPG, it is deffinately not a big seller. even the final fantasy tactics that recently came out bombed. Then again i could be talking out my ronson but when i look at the top sellers of america in video game magazines, they are mostly nintendo related productions or first person shooters.

I play persona and i very much enjoy the game but i thought this thread said Super Robot Taisen not Persona. I employ you to be as creative as you want and i think your knowledge is viable, but take some time with your posts. Relax, dont get so excited, and calmly put together posts. People will read them even if you are talking about a posts that are a few weeks old. No need to over excert yourself on typing.

I think the true reasons behind atlus's no plans for OG statement is because like everybody in this economy they are suffering. We are only a handful of people who have committed ourselves to buying this product. If it were a more popular franchise, say Persona for example, then they would be releasing as much of the product as possible, but alas, this is not an alternate dimension where one-to-one scale giant robots are being built on American shores nor are we in a period were the Mecha Animation is praised in the states.

And as for this thread being closed, there are plenty of super robot websites and threads elsewhere. All i want is a definitive answer to be posted, but then again i dont even think moderators know whats going on in the game department, they only do what they are told. That is all i ask. If i remember correctly there is alot of spite in this forum about atlus's statements regarding OG, plus the fact that we are robot fans in the first place has garnered some hate. I like speculation because we are not getting any answers here, and I am a super robot patriot since SRW:2g for the gameboy.

If anything your posts are pointless to the point my head hurts. I doubt anybody cares about who you were in other forums or where received all your 'Mecha training'.

I am not starting anything. I have no hate, i have only love for fellow super robot fans. I am actually quite pleased that we both do not like the troll "codename v".

In closing i have to say,

Hannahfans for life

SRW: Genesis R.I.P.

and

Burn in hell ADV


LoCalize SUPer RobOT WaRs OriginAl GeneRATIOns PoR FaVor

[PainKilleR-[CE]]

Disgaea is no longer a high seller. If I remember the third one did extremely poorly over here in the states, hence all the re-releases of the older games on different platforms. They are sucking it dry. In terms of SRPG, it is deffinately not a big seller. even the final fantasy tactics that recently came out bombed. Then again i could be talking out my ronson but when i look at the top sellers of america in video game magazines, they are mostly nintendo related productions or first person shooters.

I hate to stray a bit off-topic, but Disgaea 3 has sold twice as many copies in the US as both of the portable versions of Disgaea 1 combined. That's not talking huge numbers, and it's only about half the Japanese sales, but it's pretty good for a small-time publisher. For comparison, Mana Khemia (for which NISA is releasing the sequel in August) sold roughly 1/4 the number of copies as Disgaea 3. As we all should be aware, the first Disgaea on PS2 went to Greatest Hits status, but it took several years and numerous printings to reach that point (but it's more than 10x the number of copies that have sold of Disgaea 3).

We're generally not discussing top-sellers overall when we're discussing games brought over by NISA and Atlus USA (no offense to Atlus, as Atlus and NISA are pretty much the only companies I buy games from any more). What Atlus constitutes as a strong seller may not even be worth localizing for a company like Nintendo or Sony (but I will note that both companies have been much more willing to localize smaller-selling titles lately, probably doing them at lower budgets to keep sales going through the dry periods).

Still, as another comparison, the number of PS3s that have sold in NA is about 1/7th the number of PS2s that have sold in NA.

Five of the top 10 games in the week of July 4th were some form of fighting game (Fight Night, BlazBlue, UFC), about half selling more copies in a week than seem to have been sold of SMT: Devil Summoner 2 with the plushy (if not all 10 of them). The number 4 title seems to have sold almost as many copies in 2 weeks as Persona 4 has worldwide since release, and is the PS3 version of the number 1 title.

SRPG is not a huge genre, but it does have a small number of Greatest Hits titles, including both the original and remake of Final Fantasy Tactics. The FF Tactics Advance titles have each sold over half a million copies, which are numbers I'm sure Atlus and NISA would like to see more often. Fire Emblem and Advance Wars have been doing well enough for Nintendo to keep bringing them out, and while NISA's sales aren't great, SRPG is their bread & butter, with a side of Alchemy-based JRPGs from Gust.

To bring things back around, NISA not releasing another Disgaea game would be like Atlus USA not releasing another SMT (or Persona) game. Those are the flagship products for the two companies, and they're made by the parent companies of the two publishers. As long as the audience in the US is good enough for the budget the company is willing to put into the game, they will continue bringing them over.

When it comes to someone else's title, though, they not only have to weigh the fan base, the quality of the title, and the cost of the localization, but also the cost of licensing that title. Additionally, for all we know the holders of the IP involved here aren't willing to license it out to bring this game to NA at all.

[Shunyata]

*ahem*

the sales alone for Disgaea - Afternoon of darkness on the psp in America have exceeded what Disgaea 3 has made. Add to that the remake on ds and the soon remake of 2 on psp and you have easily milked the cow dry. Its funny how this once was the flagship for Atlus in japan and now it is NIS. I wonder now, if what happened to Disgaea is what has happened to Super Robot Wars OG.

by the by you can look up sales chart information at vgchartz.com. You can even set up charts between different countries.

Long live Hannahfans

Long Live Super Robot Wars Genesis

LoCalIZE SuPer RObOT WaRS Original GEnEraTIonS PoR FaVoR

[PainKilleR-[CE]]

*ahem*

the sales alone for Disgaea - Afternoon of darkness on the psp in America have exceeded what Disgaea 3 has made. Add to that the remake on ds and the soon remake of 2 on psp and you have easily milked the cow dry. Its funny how this once was the flagship for Atlus in japan and now it is NIS. I wonder now, if what happened to Disgaea is what has happened to Super Robot Wars OG.

I read the numbers wrong, I'll admit as much, but the numbers for Disgaea 3 are still very good for a niche title on the #3 console.

Atlus Japan was never involved in Disgaea. You can check the box a little more carefully, the copyright is Nippon Ichi Software, and it wasn't the first NIS game Atlus published in the US (NIS published Disgaea in Japan). It made enough money, though, that NIS decided to open NISA to publish their own titles, which makes sense, though they haven't released anything that's done as well as the first game.

The equivalent would be if Super Robot Wars OG were to actually be published by Bandai Namco (or Namco Bandai, whichever they call themselves this week). I'm not even sure what Namco spends their time publishing these days, they seem to use the same system as the lottery to pick games to publish, and they NEVER take games out of the selection pool. They're just as likely to release Pac-Man again as Super Robot Wars OG.

[Olethros]

*ahem*

the sales alone for Disgaea - Afternoon of darkness on the psp in America have exceeded what Disgaea 3 has made. Add to that the remake on ds and the soon remake of 2 on psp and you have easily milked the cow dry. Its funny how this once was the flagship for Atlus in japan and now it is NIS. I wonder now, if what happened to Disgaea is what has happened to Super Robot Wars OG.

by the by you can look up sales chart information at vgchartz.com. You can even set up charts between different countries.

Long live Hannahfans

Long Live Super Robot Wars Genesis

LoCalIZE SuPer RObOT WaRS Original GEnEraTIonS PoR FaVoR

I promised myself I wouldn't post in this thread anymore (to avoid annoying the admins) but I couldn't resist this one time:

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71867&postcount=24

[Shunyata]

Proof?

[Olethros]

Did you actually look at the linked post? That's a quote from one of the admins/employees of Atlus. One who has access to ACTUAL sales numbers. Proof enough?

[SickleCellAnemia]

Personally I wanted to end this with 50 pages, but I didn’t get that wish. Besides I don’t think being on /m/ is to bad, I’m sure the likes of Olethros and SickleCellAnemia may have just as crazy places they went before settling here.

The only other crazy places Olethros has been to is the nuthouse, and currently his laboratory.

[Revid Emit]

I just registered here in this forums because I, too, want my voice heard over OGs and OGG's localization.

Please Atlus, bring these gems here.

[Steel Greyfalke]

I just registered here in this forums because I, too, want my voice heard over OGs and OGG's localization.

Please Atlus, bring these gems here.
good to hear ,Brudda

[Olethros]

Personally I wanted to end this with 50 pages, but I didn’t get that wish. Besides I don’t think being on /m/ is to bad, I’m sure the likes of Olethros and SickleCellAnemia may have just as crazy places they went before settling here.

The only other crazy places Olethros has been to is the nuthouse, and currently his laboratory.

It's true!! :o

Olethros' Secret Laboratory???

[LadyMiaow]

One day, the dream will be realized. It took several years for Original Generation to come out, afterall.

[Takara_Kitsune]

One day, the dream will be realized. It took several years for Original Generation to come out, afterall.

If there's something I learned... most games have two or more endings.

In a particularly famous one, the main character waits for a miracle. From here it goes one of two ways. The miracle does in fact come... or, "The miracle never happen". Unfortunately, that second one was pretty common, as there were two very particular things that were required for the miracle to come. I don't know if we have those two things that will allow the miracle to happen... but we may.

If any of you have the capacity to, though... (meaning a PS2 that can play Japanese games), I will recommend importing OGs and OGG. Worth the price on Play-Asia for sure. I finally got my PS2 set up to run Japanese games, and even just 5 minutes of gameplay tells me this is worth it. :3

[growlanservoter]

Grrrah I can't belive I missed getting Lagow in Alpha 3. Iam now on chapter 29 and I won't mis getting the Monstroid Mech :D
Also how cost efficient would it be for Atlus to release OG and OGG in a limited bundle together with no extra stuff?

[Steel Greyfalke]

do plush Alts exist? they got Plush MS

[Constraint]

Man, this topic is full of off topicness. Even though you guys are talking about things related to SRT: OG, this is a suggestion thread afterall. Not a discuss about plushies and action figures.

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well When it comes to SRT:OG Equippable weapons which did you find most useful I found the M13 Shotgun very effective when fully customised IMO

[Takara_Kitsune]

Man, this topic is full of off topicness. Even though you guys are talking about things related to SRT: OG, this is a suggestion thread afterall. Not a discuss about plushies and action figures.

To some extent, I think it's about keeping some level of attention focused on the thread. I do think it's in vain, however. After all, the Arcana is the means by which all is revealed...

... and the Arcana have revealed nothing. -_-;

[DestronPrime]

Translate it, I'd say.

Although I believe there was an anouncement about no more PS2 games? I don't know if that was true though xD

[growlanservoter]

The Shishio blade and Ball hammer are awsome ^^

[Crimson Cloud]

You guys still going on and on about this? I thought this topic would close some time ago. It's nice to have dreams but let's face it, enough is enough. They are obviously not gonna do it =/

[growlanservoter]

Thats why ae are labeled Atlus Faithfuls cause we have a small shred of faith left for this series :D So does anyone else like that wild Wurger L I just wish it could pull off Twin bird strike

[Kyoji]

Personally, I don't like the Wurgers. Guess it's just personal taste.

[Ferolakra]

Really just posting to continue my support fo OGs and OGG.

I actually liked the Wild Wurger L red colour more than the basic unit, I usually put Leona in it. But my favourite unit is Huckebein Mk II.

[Takara_Kitsune]

I continue to post here because I've come to like the regulars that come to this thread. :P

I already have both games in Japanese, so I'm not really desperate anymore... I'd still love to see them in English, but I'm fine without them. If Atlus did end up announcing them, though, as previously mentioned... I'd jump right onboard.

And... you know... surprisingly enough, I actually like one of the ships more than anything. I'm talking about the Hagane. It's pretty much the coolest thing ever! ^^ I don't care that the Kurogane has it's "Titanic Drill"... I like the Hagane. ^^ Not to mention, the original captain has got to be one of the coolest characters. ^^ It made me sad when I saw a topic on GameFAQs actually asking "Who is Daitetsu?" ;_; I think it was because they couldn't read his name, it was on the OGs board, after all... but seriously. "Who is Daitetsu?" indeed...

[growlanservoter]

Daitetsu is the man he took that hit from the Shiragani with honor :(
Of all the piolets though My favorites would have to be Rastel, Arado, and Seolla

[Constraint]

*sigh*

That is all.

[X-Grunger]

D:
namco has teh license D: D:

[growlanservoter]

Bamco i full of epic fail they hate releasing anything good over here and they skip every other tales game not taht I care about tales games :D
Back on topic I got my email saiing that OGS is on the way woohoo.
Which battle quote is this funniest in the game I love the conversations between Kyosuke and Excellen they always get me laughing :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

OGS takes many references from various Anime but I havent seen an Banpresto Original based on Dragonar but anyway
I think conversations between Excellen & Bullet are way too hilarious :seesaw:

[growlanservoter]

the whole bunny suit conversation between Excellen and Arado slays me everytime i read it lol

[Steel Greyfalke]

My favorite lines Are : when Ratsel says Sanger caught the Sea Bass
& Sanger :Less talking & more killing!

(correct me if i'm wrong)

[Zeta_Nova]

Nice :). Can't wait to see this game make it to SDCC 09 if Namco Bandai does including this game at the game show along with Tekken 6, Dragon Ball: Raging Blast & Revenge of King Piccolo.

[Steel Greyfalke]

lets hope..

[Zeta_Nova]

Well, there were those that received that email on this topic that can actually have a say. They have actual proof.

Like how ATLUS goes over the top when they're announcing something big when they send us an email.

[Yet Another Tim]

Is it just I, or Namco Bandai is afraid of the niche? Last I checked, in America alone, FF was niche; now, courtesy of FFVII, FF is now mainstream on a worldwide basis.

Why won't Namco Bandai just take a page or two from the international promotion of FFVII?

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well, there were those that received that email on this topic that can actually have a say. They have actual proof.

Like how ATLUS goes over the top when they're announcing something big when they send us an email.

Actual proof? Hmmmmmmmmmm well im still gonna wait if SRT OG does get annouced by either company ,I'll buy it just so I can buy it & add it to my Mecha library.

[Zeta_Nova]

Tim, Square is a world wide company. It caters to all nations.

In this case, it'd be a japanese-only company that Namco operates. Which's that of Banpresto. And games like these aren't well known world wide. As compared to the likes of Final Fantasy, SaGa, The world Ends With you etc...

[Takara_Kitsune]

I believe Namco Bandai is one of those companies that believes those things said on forums about everyone outside of Japan hating anime. Which is ironically hypocritical for a company that just fought for several months to take back the Dragonball series from Atari. (Atari is pretty much screwed completely now by that deal, by the way...)

And Square Enix only has managed to gain mass appeal with Final Fantasy. SaGa and TWEWY aren't that popular. I mean, they have a cult following, but they're not Final Fantasy. The only SE property outside of Japan to be big is Kingdom Hearts. In Japan, obviously Dragon Quest is big, whereas it only has a cult following outside of Japan. Also, Star Ocean only has a cult following worldwide. The thing is, Square Enix makes so much money, they pretty much can do the big-name games in addition to the niche titles... so they do.

Namco Bandai makes... some money, but they pretty much have the worst marketing team on earth. I've seen monkeys sell more than them. Pretty much, if it requires any ads to sell or have attention drawn to it... Namco Bandai won't sell many at all. SRT requires a very targeted ad campaign. Namco Bandai would fail to note this, thinking they need HUGE ADS ON THE SIDES OF BUILDINGS. However, this is expensive. So, they will pass on ads entirely. Just as with the Tales series, a few banner ads on RPG related sites would go a long way, and maybe something in some magazines, and promo materials at Gamestop? It seriously works! But it won't happen.

Atlus goes about the whole thing differently. They hardly advertise at all yet still make a profit of some sort. The deal here is that they cater to the niche crowds, produce only in numbers they know they can sell, and they make a solid, polished product. Positive word of mouth sells, you know? I can't say I've been disappointed in a single Atlus-published game I purchased. Some of them are super-niche, and for that they may throw off a broad audience, but they've been quality. Because of the quality, I'm pretty much a customer for life. Meanwhile, you have other publishers that aren't quite as selective about what they release, and they get a bad reputation for it. One bad experience has the possibility to ruin the image of a company in one customer's eyes.

Anyway... point is, Square-Enix releases just about everything worldwide, save for those International versions of their games. (Seriously, with a name like "International"... you'd think they'd be released everywhere. ^^; ) Namco Bandai is selective, but doesn't seem to know how to advertise selectively. Atlus is selective about the advertising and the games. Unfortunately, Atlus' method means that if something doesn't really sell well the first couple of attempts, even if there are some hardcore fans that want it, they will have to give up on it. I don't have the numbers on the SRT games, but I don't think they sold well... and so Atlus needs to move on to things that may make more profit.

[Super Robot Fan]

That is a very good point you made Takara_Kitsune and I would have to agree about the advertisements that each company does and also lets hope this does show up to SDCC 09.

[Zeta_Nova]

Yeah, and also considering the emails you guys got as well.

Though, can you guys quote what your email said that Namco has the license?

[Steel Greyfalke]

I didn't get one J/K

[Shunyata]

There was no SRW: OGS At Comic-Con. Sad as the Bamco booth was, there was no sign of even a gundam game.

[Steel Greyfalke]

they might be hiding something

[PainKilleR-[CE]]

Is it just I, or Namco Bandai is afraid of the niche? Last I checked, in America alone, FF was niche; now, courtesy of FFVII, FF is now mainstream on a worldwide basis.

FF 1 saved Square, so they had good reason to put a strong push behind the titles that later bore the series name. FF 7 just happened to be the perfect storm that quadrupled the sales.

In a way, comparing Namco and Square is pretty apt, though: neither company seems particularly willing to bring over games that get a lot of vocal supporters in the US when the sales just don't compare to their main series. Square could probably care less what they publish over here if they could get the sales of a Final Fantasy game every time, but they know they can't. When they can tie in to the Final Fantasy cash cow, they certainly do, which is why Kingdom Hearts is their second most successful series. It's also why they could care less about bringing over more than the occasional SaGa or Seiken Densetsu. They released Front Mission 1st on the DS but not Front Mission 5?

In the same manner, Namco/Bandai will continue making seemingly random choices, especially when the Tales games seem to have such hit or miss sales numbers anyway. They'll continue to cash in where they can, but they won't take any more risks than they feel they have to.

It amazes me that none of the larger development/publishing houses seem willing to let anyone else do localization of their games if they decide not to publish themselves, but there may be any number of other things going on with these sorts of decisions, and they may decide to hold back definitive statements because they haven't made real decisions (and eventually it just slips past their target dates anyway).

[rpgram]

I would like to say, while I doubt that this game will ever come over here, I REALLY freaking want it, and wish that it would...I LOVE super robot wars and have bought all the games that have come out over here (I also own both the OVA and TV series when they were offered, how easy is my wallet to them?) and wish there was more SRW stuff for me to get in English. Sadly, I must confess I'm not sure if this game will ever come to fruition over here just because of the time that has past, and only the fact that the PS2 has not died off yet because of PS3's current status gives me any thoughs at all of it coming out here.

[growlanservoter]

Does everything unlock the same like in the GBA games?

[Steel Greyfalke]

Goin on about disribution How may are familar w Great Battle & SRT Compact (still need a Wonderswan Color)? this is not a negative remark

[Shunyata]

SRW compact color was bad @$$. The previous SRW: compact 2 for regular wonderswan was all neatly glossed up and combined into one freakin huge first Super Robot outing on the ps2 as SRW: Impact. Great game, but at level 83 you just become strained. Was Great Battle for the Game Boy Color?

[Steel Greyfalke]

There is a version of Great Battle for the Game boy It was SD the Great Battle Pocket (No Roar in this one) but most of em are for the SFC , As for SRT Compact / Compact 2 I only got the emulator on the computer, :very_sad:

[growlanservoter]

SRT isnt worth getting viruses over an emulator :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

Well im still gonna Look fer a Wonderswan Color in the U.S Cause of my Mecha/Bandai/Banpresto/Collecting habits

[Shunyata]

Just get the first wonderswan game skip the second-three chapter and buy SRW: Impact then definately buy or download the two for wonderswan color. Also if your a gundam fan the amuro game is definately worth a play on wonderswan color. Oh and gundam emotional jam is pretty good too. As are the evangelion games.....one piece games.......dragonball game...... Wait why the hell didn't we get this hand held......... sure beats the neo geo pocket color

[growlanservoter]

Ive been watching Gundam 00 on sci fi and I have to say I love it more than Gumdam wing. When is 00 gonna get an SRT debute :D

[Steel Greyfalke]

not sure but 00 reminds me of Zeta but if you listen to Daybreak's Bell it sounds a lot like Love from an Aqueous Star but SRT Wise I hope its lined up W/ Dragonar, GGG or even Gundam Unicorn..

[Shunyata]

Im sick of seed in SRW. Want 00 sooooooo bad. 00 with Turn A would pretty much sum up all the gundam i would ever need in a Super Robot Game. Cant wait for the new G Gen game too as i hear it features 00.

[growlanservoter]

Those Youtube videos were making me salivate so I just ordered OGS preowned off ebay for 19.99