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Rurik
05-05-2009, 07:15 PM
It's more the mecha genre I was referring to than the gameplay genre, the only other turn based mecha strategy franchise I can think of is Front Mission, and it's not much more well known than SRW, and that series is from Squaresoft, a much more well known franchise.
Forever Zero
05-06-2009, 03:22 PM
It's more the mecha genre I was referring to than the gameplay genre, the only other turn based mecha strategy franchise I can think of is Front Mission, and it's not much more well known than SRW, and that series is from Squaresoft, a much more well known franchise.
Mecha is more SRW's subgenre. At its core, it is a SRPG. Really, mecha isn't too much of a genre at all, just a style or setting of another genre, such as SRPG(SRW), Action(ZOE), RTS(Mech Commander), etc. It's the same as how fantasy really isn't a genre of videogames, more a style/setting.
The closest I can think of something being an actual mech genre would be something like Mech Warrior or Armored Core.
And if you're worried about bringing an unknown SRPG over, they did it with Disgaea, and look what happened. And are you saying there is more risk in bringing SRW OGG/OGs over than Endless Frontier, which is a spinoff with a totally different style of play to the already niche SRW OG series?
Zeta_Nova
05-06-2009, 03:40 PM
Yeah man, don't get our hopes down by having these discouraging comments.
LordGeo
05-07-2009, 06:52 PM
Well, Spencer from Siliconera interviewed some of Atlus' staff on Endless Frontier, and Spencer ends the interview with the question we all want answered...
"It’s great that we’re getting Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier, but what about the two PlayStation 2 Super Robot Taisen Original Generation games?
AJ: Spencer… Spencer…
…
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Spencer…"
So I take it that "Spencer" is all the Atlus people will be saying in relation to this title from now until their actually announce it.
Crimson Cloud
05-08-2009, 03:45 AM
One thing is sure, if they didn't want it they would have said something like ''Atlus is currently not working on bringing SRW:OG to US'', my thought anyway. Whatever the case I'm not loosing hope ;)
Ilirik
05-08-2009, 03:02 PM
I joined up just to express my desire for getting Super Robot Wars: OG game on ps2 translated. Never played any other besides GBA version which I absolutely loved. Cannot mention my excitement when I saw videos of ps2 version but also a disappointment because it was never translated. Please Atlus, consider this game.
Jean-Baptiste Clamence
05-08-2009, 06:29 PM
I bought Endless Frontier to support the SRW franchise on this side of the Atlantic. I loved both OG games on the GBA, and would love to see Original Generations make its way to the West. I think it's a solid idea - not to mention lucrative, by the looks of it (1200+ posts.) I'm too lazy to browse through 42 pages of messages, so I'll ask here: has Atlus given any significant reason why the game wouldn't be translated?
Anyhow, that's two cents' worth of opinion right there.
Urvin1
05-13-2009, 11:57 AM
Something I just remembered. Is Sony still being adamant on their friggin policy on PS2 games having voice acting and all?
Chronus
05-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Hello,
I am a new fan of the Robot Taisen series after trying out Super Robot Taisen OG Saga, enjoying that a lot (go KOS-MOS!), and proceeding to buy the excellent GBA games, Original Generations 1 and 2.
After doing some internet searching, I see there are both PS2 and PSP versions of the Original Generations games with vastly improved graphics. I would love for these to be ported over and translated to English by Atlus.
If this were done, I most certainly would reserve a copy immediately. Good quality strategy RPGS are hard to come by, especially those with amazing animation, storyline, and music such as Super Robot Taisen Original Generations.
Please consider porting this to an American audience.
Thank you.
Dragen
05-16-2009, 04:24 AM
Something I just remembered. Is Sony still being adamant on their friggin policy on PS2 games having voice acting and all?
Unsure, but I'm sure they have a ton of excuses at hand for a game they just don't want to see over here. We can keep hoping Atlus will hear our pleas and bring out OGS though. :)
sdragon21
05-16-2009, 11:10 AM
Something just crossed my mind. Atlus is going to be attending E3 this year. So if they're gonna announce OG, that's the place they'll do it. Keep your fingers crossed!!!
LordGeo
05-16-2009, 11:14 AM
Something just crossed my mind. Atlus is going to be attending E3 this year. So if they're gonna announce OG, that's the place they'll do it. Keep your fingers crossed!!!
There's also no indication of what Atlus will be showing at E3 either. Atlus hasn't given IGN a list of titles, so the company isn't a part of IGN's E3 2009 game list. All we can do is guess and expect them to at least show their late June releases as well as maybe Knights in the Nightmare, which is released right when E3 starts.
Also, with the exception of Persona PSP, Atlus will have no other upcoming titles by the start of July, so E3 is the perfect place for Atlus to make any new title announcements in general.
chaos_bringer00
05-16-2009, 11:51 AM
YEA!!! BRING THIS AWESOME AND SEXY GAME OVER...
I'LL buy it for sure! :D
Zeta_Nova
05-16-2009, 12:45 PM
Yeah, E3's Atlus' only chance of bringing this game stateside. Other than this, it'll be up to the various leaks (ala; ESRB or Amazon).
Urvin1
05-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Yeah, E3's Atlus' only chance of bringing this game stateside. Other than this, it'll be up to the various leaks (ala; ESRB or Amazon).
Are you talking about possible future leaks or current leaks that I don't know about?
I still don't understand from that Spencer interview, did they just tease us mercilessly?
If Atlus so dearly wants my hard earned money, they know that they only have to bring over OGS and OOG, and I'll flat out pre-order it the second it hits online vendors. C'mon now Atlus, you know you wanna :)
Zeta_Nova
05-16-2009, 11:23 PM
Both, if this doesn't get to Atlus by the time E3 gets underway. It'll be up to the various leakes.
But, mostly E3 as word will spread like a wildfire to Super Robo fans (GameFAQs, this forum, the Atlus Online forum y'name it).
And IF Atlus decides to do this game. I hope it's a two games in 1 disc deal, meaning the OG and OGG. Unlike the single Re: Chain of Memories game that fans got. Which FM+ was supposed to be packaged as well.
Urvin1
05-16-2009, 11:51 PM
*Has been looking for leaks for the passed hour*
Tatsunoko vs Capcom is coming over to the states, news which is bittersweet to me.
sdragon21
05-17-2009, 05:12 AM
*Has been looking for leaks for the passed hour*
Tatsunoko vs Capcom is coming over to the states, news which is bittersweet to me.
Yeah, i went off the freakin wall when i found this out. Now this gives me hope that one day, a licensed SRW game will make it over. If capcom was able to do it with tatsunoko, mabye Namco Bandai could do it with SRT.
Crimson Cloud
05-17-2009, 07:53 AM
So Atlus didn't reveal E3 lineup? Well, there is still hope then that it will appear there if they are willing to do this. I'm looking forward in seeing how will it all end. All the OG characters are patiently waiting as well :tongue:
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x99/Rodimus_Cloud/3d350c50c477ce6f32c980c1c89d7b6c7ac.jpg
Tatsuya Suou
05-17-2009, 09:55 AM
The OG robots are waiting too as shown in this chart of all the mechs that has and yet to appear in OG. Edit: Good morning post time go ^
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3944/9143cda7.gif
Ferolakra
05-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Just joined to add my own hope for these games to come over to NA.
Daren
05-17-2009, 08:38 PM
I agree, I loved the two GBA games and I'm still working on Endless Frontier. But I'd love to see this game come state side.
Soul Earth
05-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Hello there,,, :)
I was watching this topic since a while ago, and thought another way to speak to Atlus about this along with this forum.
I created a petition on this site: http://www.petitiononline.com
And this is it: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mohb1234/petition.html
So please everyone sign it, and tell all you know who love this game to sign. :grouphug:
Best regards,
Inzaghi
05-18-2009, 08:46 AM
No petitions, please.
Rednusander
05-18-2009, 08:47 AM
Soul Earth, there is a sticky you should read at the top of the Game Suggestions forum.
It clearly states:
As an addendum to Onion's notes: the Suggestion forum is a place to suggest games, not lobby for them. We read all suggestions and take them into account, but posting "call to arms" and trying to overwhelm us with sheer numbers (in the hundreds...) will generally never work.
Tatsuya Suou
05-18-2009, 01:29 PM
Hello there,,, :)
I was watching this topic since a while ago, and thought another way to speak to Atlus about this along with this forum.
I created a petition on this site: http://www.petitiononline.com
And this is it: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mohb1234/petition.html
So please everyone sign it, and tell all you know who love this game to sign. :grouphug:
Best regards,
I imagine you jumped the gun to give your support but as the two above posted, it is best to let this thread handle this. Have faith in atlus, they will not let us down.
With love.
:grouphug:
Zeta_Nova
05-19-2009, 05:21 PM
Considering that EF also got off to a really good start. This also gives me hope. And from the various youtube SRT OG Saga videos. You guys did a much better translation with this game, as compared to the GBA ones.
Takara_Kitsune
05-19-2009, 10:33 PM
Well, I'm new to the Super Robot Taisen series, I picked up Original Generation 1 and 2 a week before OG Saga: EF was released. But I admit, these games are great! I can't believe I was missing out on them! I'd gladly support a release of more of the same on PS2. :P
... Actually, at this point, I'm even considering importing Super Robot Taisen A Portable, since that won't get an NA release anyway. It seems not only to be the giant robots that appeals, but the particular brand of turn-based strategy these games deliver. ^^ (Except EF, obviously. But that's got it's own appeal. :3)
Oh, and, Zeta Nova... I think there were some limits on what would fit in certain blocks for text, and maybe limits on what characters could go where... in particular, battle phrases. They seemed unusual many times. Sort of akward. I notice they seemed to avoid using punctuation if possible. I think it uses a form of block-lettering that would have wasted space if they'd used too much. No complaints here, though. I found some of the battle phrases to be part of the charm. Reminds me of Zoids Saga. Which, by the way, Original Generations, in my opinion, is like taking all the good stuff from Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, and Zoids Saga, and combining it into one. Minus the Zoids themselves, unfortunately. :P But that's the vibe I get from the games... which makes them essentially a dream for me. Very hard to put them down.
Urvin1
05-20-2009, 10:49 AM
I've been wanting to play the JP version of the game for awhile, but I'm holding off until E3, waiting and seeing if Atlus will drop the announcement bomb on us.
Edit: Ouh, apparently Atlus is bringing Demon's Souls over to states. >O
sdragon21
05-21-2009, 05:08 PM
12 days till E3. Please, for the love of god, let this be one of the game's they announce.
Zeta_Nova
05-21-2009, 09:48 PM
Aside of wanting to play SRT K. This' mostly the only SRT I've been wanting to play since the GBA run-ins. Please, don't let this chance slip by Atlus.
Takara_Kitsune
05-21-2009, 10:44 PM
Aside of wanting to play SRT K. This' mostly the only SRT I've been wanting to play since the GBA run-ins. Please, don't let this chance slip by Atlus.
I've decided to import K. It's ironic that I was going on and on about "SRT being like Advance Wars + Fire Emblem + Zoids Saga" and SRT K has a bunch of Zoids from Genesis in it. ^^
But, no way will we ever see a North American release on that... so IMPORT TIME!
... I'm grabbing that and MX Portable, since, well... MX looks to be awesome as well. I'd get A Portable, but I need to get some more money first. :P
Urvin1
05-21-2009, 11:48 PM
Any SRW game with a license series in it will most likely never make it North America, simply because will be a property nightmare, or so I hear. OG has a chance because it has no licensed mecha in it. For those games, you might as well import or use other shady methods to play.
But seriously, I'm importing the OG games if Atlus' E3 doesn't bring over them. C'mon guys, I want to give you my money, I'm just waiting for that game. Don't drop the ball please. :frown: Just look how big this thread has grown for just one franchise.
Takara_Kitsune
05-22-2009, 01:42 AM
Any SRW game with a license series in it will most likely never make it North America, simply because will be a property nightmare, or so I hear. OG has a chance because it has no licensed mecha in it. For those games, you might as well import or use other shady methods to play.
But seriously, I'm importing the OG games if Atlus' E3 doesn't bring over them. C'mon guys, I want to give you my money, I'm just waiting for that game. Don't drop the ball please. :frown: Just look how big this thread has grown for just one franchise.
Yeah... I know. ;_; Makes me sad, but, what can you do? Anyway, just ordered MX Portable and K. Pretty much, not having those was bothering me. So I'll have then whenever they ship. Play-Asia should start giving me a frequent shopper discount. >.>
Anyway, I won't import the OG games if Atlus doesn't release them, since I have the two GBA ones anyway, I can do without the PS2 version of the same thing with some awesome exclusive content... OH WHY DID I HAVE TO NOTICE THAT?! ;_; I don't have any proper way to play PS2 imports, and the PS2 I have is old enough that I can't find parts to make it run Japanese games. I'd buy a Japanese console, but, I'd much rather spend that money on more games than redundant hardware. (But it would also let me get Zoids Tactics, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, and of course, some very nice Japan-only PS1 games... hm...)
Zeta_Nova
05-22-2009, 07:26 AM
Yeah, but we were lucky with Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Dispite the licensing barrier. Hopefully we'll be able to work something out with just this OG game as well.
Purgeon
05-22-2009, 09:20 AM
Any SRW game with a license series in it will most likely never make it North America, simply because will be a property nightmare, or so I hear. OG has a chance because it has no licensed mecha in it. For those games, you might as well import or use other shady methods to play.
But seriously, I'm importing the OG games if Atlus' E3 doesn't bring over them. C'mon guys, I want to give you my money, I'm just waiting for that game. Don't drop the ball please. :frown: Just look how big this thread has grown for just one franchise.
Yeah... I know. ;_; Makes me sad, but, what can you do? Anyway, just ordered MX Portable and K. Pretty much, not having those was bothering me. So I'll have then whenever they ship. Play-Asia should start giving me a frequent shopper discount. >.>
Anyway, I won't import the OG games if Atlus doesn't release them, since I have the two GBA ones anyway, I can do without the PS2 version of the same thing with some awesome exclusive content... OH WHY DID I HAVE TO NOTICE THAT?! ;_; I don't have any proper way to play PS2 imports, and the PS2 I have is old enough that I can't find parts to make it run Japanese games. I'd buy a Japanese console, but, I'd much rather spend that money on more games than redundant hardware. (But it would also let me get Zoids Tactics, Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, and of course, some very nice Japan-only PS1 games... hm...)
Dude, the ps2 versions blow the GBA versions away. If your thinking of importing them its totally worth it. The likely hood we will see these stateside is slim to nil, just go for it and enjoy how awesome they are.
Zeta_Nova
05-22-2009, 09:39 AM
Hey man, don't bring our hopes down like that. It isn't cool to the ones who want it brought over. Why do you think we have this topic up in the first place? It's because so that Atlus can look into getting it.
And 'sides, another reason why we'd want to try it is that we'd prefer the game be played in english form (japanese VOs with translated english menus and text). Me, I would. And also anotha thing, I don't import yo. Never have, never would.
Urvin1
05-22-2009, 12:41 PM
Atlus would have to be blind not to see the numerous fans wanting a translation. Endless Frontier has sold better then the two GBA games and I'm pretty sure the PS2 games would sell just as well. (At least better then the GBA games)
Takara_Kitsune
05-22-2009, 12:49 PM
Dude, the ps2 versions blow the GBA versions away. If your thinking of importing them its totally worth it. The likely hood we will see these stateside is slim to nil, just go for it and enjoy how awesome they are.
Oh, I'm aware. I've watched some videos, and I've heard most of the OST. I know there's really no comparison, but, I'm saying if we don't get Original Generations and/or OG Gaiden, I can at least still enjoy Original Generation 1 and 2 on GBA. Anyway, there's not much of a chance on the hardware side of things that I'll work that out. I don't really want/need a Japanese PS2, and the parts to modify my existing one (which is one of the older types, I haven't found any of those types of parts for it, honestly...) is next to impossible. I'll just settle for being able to import the portable games. If I wait long enough, I'm sure they'll make Original Generations/Gaiden for PSP or the often-rumored PSP2.
Hey man, don't bring our hopes down like that. It isn't cool to the ones who want it brought over. Why do you think we have this topic up in the first place? It's because so that Atlus can look into getting it.
And 'sides, another reason why we'd want to try it is that we'd prefer the game be played in english form (japanese VOs with translated english menus and text). Me, I would. And also anotha thing, I don't import yo. Never have, never would.
I think this game has a chance, really. I won't speak for Atlus, but it's just one of those feelings. As far as imports, I wouldn't mind at all if I had the hardware. I import all the time, there are a ton of games that just never make it to North America. I have a basic understanding of Japanese, so I can read menus and names... but not much else, unfortunately. By the way, don't say you never would import... there are some nice advantages to doing so... like previously mentioned, one can obtain games that will never see a North American release. Let's just say that importing has been very good to me, and I'd recommend it to anyone that wants to play games that won't be released outside of Japan.
Thankfully, companies like Atlus try to close that gap... and they do a pretty good job of getting a lot of obscure, otherwise overlooked titles into North America. I import to get the rest. :P
Zeta_Nova
05-22-2009, 11:57 PM
One thing though, imports sometimes don't provide bonuses. Only Atlus does with games like these. And as said, I'd rather play games like these in their english form.
Also, sometimes Atlus may give fans an extra bonus in the game itself. I doubt imports do that, unless if their extended versions of the already finished english game.
Takara_Kitsune
05-23-2009, 08:46 AM
Eh, if the game had little to no chance of a North American release, I don't care if it has a bonus or additional features.
... Now, given, there is one thing that would be concerning, and that is when games have game-breaking bugs in the Japanese release that are corrected before a North American release. Example being: Class of Heroes. I assure you the bug there almost had to have been there already, but it's bad enough that Atlus delayed the game nearly two months. I'm glad they caught it, but I really wanted the game way before Atlus called it, and I was going to import.
As a side-note on imports... I'm not sure if you knew this, but if you order from sites like Play-Asia, did you know that they will often send you the preorder bonus if they have them? Of course, these would be the Japanese preorder bonuses, but they are 'bonuses' nonetheless.
Purgeon
05-23-2009, 11:50 AM
Hey man, don't bring our hopes down like that. It isn't cool to the ones who want it brought over. Why do you think we have this topic up in the first place? It's because so that Atlus can look into getting it.
And 'sides, another reason why we'd want to try it is that we'd prefer the game be played in english form (japanese VOs with translated english menus and text). Me, I would. And also anotha thing, I don't import yo. Never have, never would.
I am all for this being released, i'd buy it in a heart beat. Im just a little jaded. I remember signing up for this forum just like you, I was like "oh I'll post showing my support for it". What a mistake that was, everyone jumped down my throat for doing that. You guys are lucky, no one seems to be giving you a hard time supporting this game. I love atlus, I love their work, but the people on these forum, holy crap are they d^cks.
Zeta_Nova
05-23-2009, 11:52 AM
As for bonus. I really don't mind if there's no bonus at all. I just want to get down and playing the game. Hopefully we'll get to see something from Atlus during the time of E3.
LordGeo
05-23-2009, 11:56 AM
I am all for this being released, i'd buy it in a heart beat. Im just a little jaded. I remember signing up for this forum just like you, I was like "oh I'll post showing my support for it". What a mistake that was, everyone jumped down my throat for doing that. You guys are lucky, no one seems to be giving you a hard time supporting this game. I love atlus, I love their work, but the people on these forum, holy crap are they d^cks.
That's partially why I stopped posting here for a while. But the overall environment of these forums have become a bit more welcoming than they were before, so I post here more often once again.
But let's not go away from the focus of this topic, SRT OGs, so I'll stop digressing here.
Takara_Kitsune
05-23-2009, 04:01 PM
Well, as far as the more welcoming nature of the forums, they cracked down on some of the people who were making this a hostile environment. I have a rather low post count for having joined in 2007... for the reason that, I pretty much gave up posting here for a while because I decided coming here to potentially be insulted was pointless. But they started enforcing things. I tend to word my posts in ways that could be misinterpreted, but I promise I never have any ill intent with my posts.
Looking back at your first post in this thread, though... I can see that it wasn't so much that they were trying to be mean, it's more the case that Atlus won't be swayed by petitions, lists of demands, or huge threads requesting the release of a game. However, I do believe that they pay attention to requests, and if the demand is there, they may do it. In the case of Original Generations, the demand is there. So, if the Atlus staff determines they want to localize it, and they determine they can in fact make money from it, as well as obtain the rights, then they very well will release it.
I do, however, have a feeling that Original Generations carries potential for a North American release. But, as with anything else, we will have to wait and see. I'm not being overly hopeful, just keeping an eye out. But there are several factors in support of this: OG Saga: EF was recently released. This means that the series may have had more attention drawn to it. (It was the reason I picked up Original Generation 1 and 2, so... it did help there). There are people on staff that seem to be interested in releasing more games in the series, which is why we did see OG Saga. And finally, if OG Saga had any sales that moved into new customer territory, then it's possible that new fans would be likely to purchase Original Generations. Also, one last thing to note, would be that interview about OG Saga on Siliconera: http://www.siliconera.com/2009/05/07/super-robot-taisen-og-saga-endless-frontier-undressed/
Of course, I don't know if that truly means anything. If it does, great! If it doesn't? Well, it doesn't. :P
Tatsuya Suou
05-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Ahem...Gentlemen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok0BUyjJOHI) As we know, announcements and leaks are happening right and left from many companies. In less than two weeks, E3 will don upon us once again. Will this game be atlus surprise game, well all of us hope so. Right now I will once again replay to a few post I wanted to do like last time.
It's more the mecha genre I was referring to than the gameplay genre, the only other turn based mecha strategy franchise I can think of is Front Mission, and it's not much more well known than SRW, and that series is from Squaresoft, a much more well known franchise.
Mecha is more SRW's subgenre. At its core, it is a SRPG. Really, mecha isn't too much of a genre at all, just a style or setting of another genre, such as SRPG(SRW), Action(ZOE), RTS(Mech Commander), etc. It's the same as how fantasy really isn't a genre of videogames, more a style/setting.
The closest I can think of something being an actual mech genre would be something like Mech Warrior or Armored Core.
And if you're worried about bringing an unknown SRPG over, they did it with Disgaea, and look what happened. And are you saying there is more risk in bringing SRW OGG/OGs over than Endless Frontier, which is a spinoff with a totally different style of play to the already niche SRW OG series?
:agree:
This I can totally agree on, I myself am example of how a niche game can make one a cult fan. Not only I am a PERSONA user and fan of the SRW series, I am also a crazed Disgaea fan. I know how a game that is unknown to many can make or break any chance of seeing more. OG 1 and 2 for the gba was unlucky in atlus first attempt at bring SRT to the US. But like Disgaea, this game can be big in the states and like it the game will be a cult classic.
One thing is sure, if they didn't want it they would have said something like ''Atlus is currently not working on bringing SRW:OG to US'', my thought anyway. Whatever the case I'm not loosing hope ;)
You know there is a possibility that atlus dose have it planed, however there is the possibility that I kind of want to point out. Having this game to the states is a double edge sword. I have no doubt that it will be successful and will make up for the lack of sales of OG 1 and 2 but on the other side is once this get successful, many would want more. What I mean is that atlus would have to find a way to get SRT games other than OG because as of right now there is no plans for an OG 3.
Something I just remembered. Is Sony still being adamant on their friggin policy on PS2 games having voice acting and all?
I doubt it but for the majority of games I have seen, there is almost always a dub in it, I know there are some exceptions but they are rare. That is one of the many reasons I made the SRT OG dub thread (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3133). It gives atlus an idea on what a good dub of the game could be.
Well, I'm new to the Super Robot Taisen series, I picked up Original Generation 1 and 2 a week before OG Saga: EF was released. But I admit, these games are great! I can't believe I was missing out on them! I'd gladly support a release of more of the same on PS2. :P
... Actually, at this point, I'm even considering importing Super Robot Taisen A Portable, since that won't get an NA release anyway. It seems not only to be the giant robots that appeals, but the particular brand of turn-based strategy these games deliver. ^^ (Except EF, obviously. But that's got it's own appeal. :3)
Oh, and, Zeta Nova... I think there were some limits on what would fit in certain blocks for text, and maybe limits on what characters could go where... in particular, battle phrases. They seemed unusual many times. Sort of akward. I notice they seemed to avoid using punctuation if possible. I think it uses a form of block-lettering that would have wasted space if they'd used too much. No complaints here, though. I found some of the battle phrases to be part of the charm. Reminds me of Zoids Saga. Which, by the way, Original Generations, in my opinion, is like taking all the good stuff from Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, and Zoids Saga, and combining it into one. Minus the Zoids themselves, unfortunately. :P But that's the vibe I get from the games... which makes them essentially a dream for me. Very hard to put them down.
I glad you enjoy the SRT games of gba and DS. You know I would mind seeing a translated SRW A Portable one day. This is the game that features the shadow mirrors (namly Lamia Loveless and Axel Arma) as the main cast.
Now when it comes to akward text it is more in the line of OG 1 & 2. For some text, it can go too fast to read in a atck. For me the most noticble is some of Aussenseiter attacks and the atcks of Ryukooh/Koryuoh as shown in this Video of Ryukooh and Koryuoh in OG 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAUVZ4W3G8&feature=related).
You’re right that SRT brings the best of SRPGS and throw giant robots in the mix. Like I said, it is possible for this one game to one of the best SRPGs to come to the US.
I would like to also respond to some of you're post above on imports. I posted my thoughts on importing a few pages ago but this one will explain it better. I personally have no problem in importing a game if I know for a fact that it will never come to the US. Back in the days on the first Playststion, I had this one import fighting game called Tobal 2. Back then the older models had port in the back and there was a devise I had that once I added it let me played imports without the need of modding my PS1. To this day I still have the game and as long as I had the old playstiaon and the devise I used, playing imports were never a problem. Once I transferred to the playstioan 2, things started to change. Back then I had less interest of imports and focus on the game that were in the US. Somewhere close to the beginning of the PS3 I started to get back into imports and wanted to find out how to play them on the PS2. The only answer I can find is "buy a Japanese’s PS2". (at the time I didn't know about swap magic) So I forgot about it and went to PS3, one that is backwards compatible. Once again I was disappointed about the region free option being for PS3 games only. For what I know there is no way to play import ps1 or ps2 games on the PS3 without modding it. Even though the easiest way is to buy an Japanese’s system, for me it is not an option. Ever since the very first playstion, the most likely thing to happen to my console is that it starts breaking down. Usual cases are some games have "disc read error", no games will play on the console or on my most recant issue with my PS3 is weird lights on the screen. (witch is geting fixed this week.) To sum it up, I CAN'T IMPORT GAMES anymore. I know I’m not the only one who has this problem. Even if I bought a Japanese system, there is still the chance of it having the same issue of the ones I had before and it will be much harder to replace one. If I could import, I would get this game (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3470) and this one (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3524) I suggested that got shut down for negative responds. (technically I can play ps1 imports on my PC but that dose not count for it is not on a console I can play on a TV and I can only play ps1 games.) As far as bonuses I think atlus would give us something good for the long wait. I posted a suggestion on atlus spoils they could use a few pages back that consist of a music CD, an artbook or a mini Gespenst. Any of these would be good to have with the game.
So there ends once again my long ass post. (it gets hard to reply to post sometimes) I am grateful of all you're support in this game, but there is one more thing you can do to give you're support. I know all of you who support the thread bought Endless frontier, but the one thing a suggest everyone to do; Newcomers and everyone else who post here) is to "Rate This Thread". This is the longest suggestion thread atlus ever had but it is not rated at five stars. Notes that before Demon's Souls (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3195&page=2) was announce, it was up to five stars for Excellent. Most of games that are close to being released from the suggestion threads are rated five stars. The ratings are above the thread; I suggest all to rate this on five for Excellent to feature guarantee this game to come here.
My next post is my theory on how atlus can acquire non-OG SRT games. With E3 on the way, now is the best time to announce this game. The PS2 right now is out selling the PS3 so there is still hope for this. They will have to release this by the end of the year so they can get enough interest in the SRT series to have my theory work out. The link below is the perfect trailer for atlus to use to announce the game. It shows team SRX, team ATX ps2 exclusives and some good robo action. You know a great thing that atlus can do for this game aside from the spoils I mention before is that they could have exclusive content for the game in the US version. Those new to OG it is a must watch.
By now I am sure most of you are losing hope. But I will stay strong and believe in atlus. Keep in mind they have yet to officially say they have no plan to bring the game here and with Endless Frontier, there are doing their best to get people back into the series before they try and release this game. So let us wait till E3 or at least until atlus say that they won’t localize this game.
Super Robot Taisen:Original Generations Trailer from atlus (maybe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGJ2dCqZS20&feature=related.
SickleCellAnemia
05-23-2009, 04:27 PM
but the people on these forum, holy crap are they d^cks.
Hey, don't talk about Olethros like that you dick!!!
Takara_Kitsune
05-23-2009, 06:42 PM
Too long to quote in my reply, Tatsuya, but I can see what is meant by the text being akward now. I suppose the good thing with such things as that, is one tends to passively read it after the first few times... but it's definitely something you'd have to read more than once to get. (Thankfully it's not story stuff... I'd be annoyed in that case. ^^; ) It seems somewhat that my original comment applies a little still to the text speed there... except in this case, it's less a space issue, and more of a time one. For that animation, there was limited time, and I know Atlus often has to work with said limits. In the Japanese version, it may very well have had something short in those spaces. Like, "HA!" or the like.
I decided to hold off on getting A Portable for now, by the way. I found myself much more interested in K and MX Portable for the moment. I was quite pleased that K actually added in Zoids... Yes, I bought it primarily because of the Zoids. >.>;; Kind of dangerous, though, with all of these SRT games out there, I tend to become interested in a new series and get as many of them as I can find. (Which would also explain my backlog being so huge...)
Anyway, I overall stick with handheld imports that don't require special consoles or modifications because of the failure factor... I do possess the skills to repair some things, but obtaining parts for a PS2 is not easy, really. Well, it is, but... that's now. In the future, it won't be so. My current goal with PS2 is actually to get myself a backup console for when my original style PS2 inevitably fails.
Overall, I agree that that trailer would work since it does show both teams, but... it's a bit on the long side. Atlus seems to keep their trailers short most of the time. So I imagine if they did use that trailer, it'd be cut down in time. Maybe more of a montage than showing each character for very long.
Zeta_Nova
05-23-2009, 11:06 PM
Well, we'll know during this week and E3 week. But like with most of you, I haven't lost hope. Because with even the impossible times, Capcom also got us Tatsunoko vs Capcom. And here gamers thought that the game wouldn't hit our side of the pacific.
Maybe Atlus'll do the same with this game.
Tatsuya Suou
05-23-2009, 11:59 PM
I decided to hold off on getting A Portable for now, by the way. I found myself much more interested in K and MX Portable for the moment. I was quite pleased that K actually added in Zoids... Yes, I bought it primarily because of the Zoids. >.>;; Kind of dangerous, though, with all of these SRT games out there, I tend to become interested in a new series and get as many of them as I can find. (Which would also explain my backlog being so huge...)
Anyway, I overall stick with handheld imports that don't require special consoles or modifications because of the failure factor... I do possess the skills to repair some things, but obtaining parts for a PS2 is not easy, really. Well, it is, but... that's now. In the future, it won't be so. My current goal with PS2 is actually to get myself a backup console for when my original style PS2 inevitably fails.
Overall, I agree that that trailer would work since it does show both teams, but... it's a bit on the long side. Atlus seems to keep their trailers short most of the time. So I imagine if they did use that trailer, it'd be cut down in time. Maybe more of a montage than showing each character for very long.
So you're a fan of Zoids, I was surprised in seeing it in the new SRW game. Between that, Godannar and Gun X Sword in it too this was a game I was interested in. Like SRT W before this it has a good exclusive robots in it, like Voltron, aka golion.
One more little tidbit on my loss of interest in imports. Back then most impost for my was mostly of fighters, actions or shooters. Anything else that has a lot of text in it I stay away from, and SRW was no different. I am happy for both the PSP and DS is region free and can play anything, but I get nervous when playing a game with a lot of dialogue in it. Granted SRW games are very easy to play once you get the gameplay once but my issue is the un-translated dialog. I personally wanted SRT W mostly for the duo of Gaogaigar and Voltron (Golion) but once I heard that the originals in this has some robot that is the size and power of ten SRX's I was like ":o what?" I have a tendency to want to know what's going on in a game like SRW. (Like in K that you have I want to know more about the mecha in this as show here. don't see it if you want to know all the original robots in K (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8104/img20090429170107.jpg)) Thank goodness for translators to solve that problem with SRW @G. But if they start doing @2 and @3 translates ions, I wont be able to play them on my PC.:(
I would do the same and get a back up unit, but I never have enough money to buy two of the same system.
After checking the atlus channel and seen their trailers, I can see how long this is compared to the one I posted. Just about all of the trailers are around less than two minutes. Most of what I found can run pretty long, even this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3IwbBatYRI&feature=related) that is caps about three minutes and it is the shortest of the trailers. Others I found are commercials that are too short like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfPCoJ-rCh4&feature=related) or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoZ0BJvX36k)that is about a minute long. I think if atlus were to release a trailer for this (and let it be sooner that the EF one please) it will be this one for SRW Z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nG1uRpVzZE&feature=related). Not only dose it shows an intense fell, epic music and awesome robot action, it also is about the same length of the trailer atlus has. Only thing is that they would obviously used OG videos instead of Z. I also think if they do a montage like you suggested than I would suggest that in the beginning of it that they will use flashback footage of the old gba OG games as it evolves into the remake.
One more thing, the idea of having a mini Gespenst as part of the spoils comes from this little beauty (http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SD-GES.htm) here.
I also found a fun little fan made video of what an OG3 would look like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOD1u2rkobw&feature=related
Urvin1
05-24-2009, 12:21 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think the other elemental lords will ever make it into OG, of course I am recalling from memory from an interview with Banpresto long ago. Could be wrong (hope so).
Ah, SRW K, awesome game. GXS was friggin awesome, Dann was incredibly broken and incredibly awesome to use. I actually liked the originals in that game more then I did than W (Bullet Striker didn't catch with me)
I'm still boggled on how they managed to bring TxC over to the states? Perhaps it’s not as a copyright nightmare as licensed SRW games?
OUh! Make sure to vote!
Edit: Mini Gespent with chibi Gilliam or chibi Kyosuke yelling that famous attack!!
Takara_Kitsune
05-24-2009, 01:17 AM
I was caught off guard by the Zoids thing, too, since I had been comparing the two OG GBA games to Zoids Saga from the moment I started playing... (Mostly battle screens and music style... Steel Ark/Soaring Dragon still reminds me of some of the Arcadia-related music from Zoids Saga) I was browsing videos to look for other videos like the synchronized Eva attack in MX, and I caught one that said "Zoids Genesis - Super Robot Taisen K" and I about had a heart attack.
Overall, I admit, I've missed out on a lot of the mecha anime out there, obviously, I've seen some Evangelion if I'm getting all worked up over the synchronized attack (and the little things they made sure to put in, like the music and the little timer. That's what I dedicated accuracy. I mean, really.) And I saw enough of G-Gundam to think that Shining Finger and Shining Finger Sword are the coolest things ever. I suppose a distinct disadvantage to playing text-heavy imports is that one does miss out on story details. I do to an extent, but I can read enough katakana to read menus, item names, character names, and quite often the names of the robots (although not always!). I admit, I'd like to improve my Japanese reading skills enough to enjoy the stories. In part, I get imports because we'd never see them, and I fear missing out on them. It's bad enough trying to track down a North American version game that's out of print... I can't even imagine the nightmare of trying to track down an out of print import... (Not impossible, but... probably costly and time-consuming).
Oh, on the subject of trailers, the one you linked first, "PV4"? That'd be perfect. I realize it's longer than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVvmQVnpNw&feature=channel_page) but it goes at about the same pace overall anyway. A lot more game for Original Generations. :P Also, you managed to make me want SRT Z now. The Big O and Eureka Seven? That's... a big selling point right there. ^^;
And that little Genpest is quite nice. ^^ I honestly personally would buy OGs without a spoil, but, if they put one in, and that was what they decided, I'd be up for it. I actually see in the trailers they got an artbook in Japan. I'd be up for that, actually. I always enjoy looking at detailed artwork, so if it's full of full-page artwork of the robots, then I'd actually like that more than the figure. ^^;
And I wonder... OG3, would it look more like the GBA games, or would they go with the style of XO and put it on a console? Which XO looks slightly insane, by the way. And for some reason leaves me feeling like there should be Yatterman cameos in there. (Must be because some of the voice actors are definitely from that. :P)
And I don't yet know about any Elemental Lords, since I haven't finished up the two OG games on GBA yet... but I will say this much, Urvin1... Capcom pulled off a rare miracle with that TvC thing. I'm excited about it, but... I suppose it is partially because only 4 of the related anime are licensed in the US, and I suppose those license holders were willing to cooperate. Way I see it, it could only benefit them. Put characters in a game, it's marketing. People will get curious, want to know more, and next thing you know, there's a market for Tatsunoko anime in the US. Same thing could potentially work for Super Robot Taisen... but, because of the nature of the cameos, it'd be harder. I mean, a game that's literally carrying 20 series worth of cameos in one title may be a bit weighty to negotiate. It's not that no one's willing, it's just that it's potentially something that could take years, and I don't blame Atlus for not wanting to get involved with that. You have three things to worry about in that case: Things that are not licensed in the US. Things that are, and the license holders are willing to allow usage. And then things that are licensed and the holders are not willing to let the license be used unless they are paid a ridiculous sum of money up front. I'd rather Atlus spent their money on more games than on gaining rights for something that may not recoup their costs, if you know what I mean. You'd buy it, I'd buy it, and everyone on this thread would buy it... but that doesn't cover the $30k that the holder of "Anime License X" wants up front.
sdragon21
05-24-2009, 12:29 PM
The only thing i'm praying for is that OGs get's announced, is that it'll have a summer release. I start college in the fall, and on top of that i'll be preocupied with my current job, which i currently work 20 hours a week, so i'll have some time to play games, but not as much as i used to.
Zeta_Nova
05-24-2009, 01:29 PM
Well, for me. I just want to play anything that includes a mech RPG sometime this year be it SRT OG EF or this game. But mostly this game.
Tatsuya Suou
05-24-2009, 04:50 PM
:agree: I want this to be announced for this year as well. Even though PS2 is out selling the PS3, we still don't know atlus state in localizing ps2 games.
So for the time being, I'll hold back a bit on my theory and get to reply on some post.
Unfortunately, I don't think the other elemental lords will ever make it into OG, of course I am recalling from memory from an interview with Banpresto long ago. Could be wrong (hope so).
Ah, SRW K, awesome game. GXS was friggin awesome, Dann was incredibly broken and incredibly awesome to use. I actually liked the originals in that game more then I did than W (Bullet Striker didn't catch with me)
I'm still boggled on how they managed to bring TxC over to the states? Perhaps it’s not as a copyright nightmare as licensed SRW games?
OUh! Make sure to vote!
Edit: Mini Gespent with chibi Gilliam or chibi Kyosuke yelling that famous attack!!
I heard about that from an interview on it that the producer of SRW wanted to focus on other characters than the elemental lords. It makes sense because before Alpha @, the Masoukishin (aka elemental lords) was used as the primary Banpresto Originals, next to team F. I world love to see them one more time in OG3. The game you' see the elemental lords is SRW @ for the snes (sfc). I have a clip of the game here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBBSkuy9fMg&feature=related) and it is on the verge of a translation as well. I don't know much but I heard that the innuendo in this game is even crazier than Endless Frontier. I hope that if we do see some elemental lords in OG3 than I would want to see this fight between Masaki vs Asakim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poXymgXSlF0&feature=channel_page). It will be the Masoukishin equivalent of Sanger vs Wodan.
In case you're wondering what I mean by Team F is that in the older SRW games there was the F series that had one of the first pilots of mechas like the Gespent, Grungust and Huckebein. The pilots are Irm Kazahara and Ring Maos old PT team. They have been mention from time to time in OG1 and 2 and aside from those two the other members only appeared in SRW F. Here is a Part1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgkASHieVl8&feature=related) and Part2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qICThCWnat4&feature=related) of what it would be like if team F were to show up in OG fighting the "Guest", then advance fleet of the "Privi Consol' that the Inspectors were in. I would also like to see them in OG 3; except they would be the same age as Irm and Ring is now.
And that is the sprit; the atlus forums like it when a tread is rated high. This other thread (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2908) that have not to long ago get five stars. Hopefully we will see both real soon.
Overall, I admit, I've missed out on a lot of the mecha anime out there, obviously, I've seen some Evangelion if I'm getting all worked up over the synchronized attack (and the little things they made sure to put in, like the music and the little timer. That's what I dedicated accuracy. I mean, really.) And I saw enough of G-Gundam to think that Shining Finger and Shining Finger Sword are the coolest things ever. I suppose a distinct disadvantage to playing text-heavy imports is that one does miss out on story details. I do to an extent, but I can read enough katakana to read menus, item names, character names, and quite often the names of the robots (although not always!). I admit, I'd like to improve my Japanese reading skills enough to enjoy the stories. In part, I get imports because we'd never see them, and I fear missing out on them. It's bad enough trying to track down a North American version game that's out of print... I can't even imagine the nightmare of trying to track down an out of print import... (Not impossible, but... probably costly and time-consuming).
Oh, on the subject of trailers, the one you linked first, "PV4"? That'd be perfect. I realize it's longer than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVvmQVnpNw&feature=channel_page) but it goes at about the same pace overall anyway. A lot more game for Original Generations. :P Also, you managed to make me want SRT Z now. The Big O and Eureka Seven? That's... a big selling point right there. ^^;
And that little Genpest is quite nice. ^^ I honestly personally would buy OGs without a spoil, but, if they put one in, and that was what they decided, I'd be up for it. I actually see in the trailers they got an artbook in Japan. I'd be up for that, actually. I always enjoy looking at detailed artwork, so if it's full of full-page artwork of the robots, then I'd actually like that more than the figure. ^^;
And I wonder... OG3, would it look more like the GBA games, or would they go with the style of XO and put it on a console? Which XO looks slightly insane, by the way. And for some reason leaves me feeling like there should be Yatterman cameos in there. (Must be because some of the voice actors are definitely from that. :P)
You're missing out on some good mecha anime out there. Although I myself haven’t seen every robot anime that is in the SRT series but I've seen a good deal. I own the whole series of Evangelion(though I can bring myself to finish it) as well as the ones I mention before, like GXS and Godannar. Because I have little time these days in my life I normally avoid watch subs, with the exception of Macross and Gaogaigar. There is a lot of benefit in either learning Japanese in how to read it or speck it. Since I knew someone who tried to read kanji said how hard it is, so if I were able I would speak Japanese. But I am too lazy to study it. Man I can’t imagine how hard it would be for me to find an import that is out of print either. That is why if a game that I like comes out that could be rare or if I happen to find a rare game I try to buy it as soon as I can.
The PV4 is basically the forth trailer that Banpresto officially broadcast in Japan. There are others out there but PV4 was there last one I believe. I also want to show you the better version of it that is in sync here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywsHz1GXG2E&feature=related). Got this from My dub thread(I know, shameless plug) and should have been the one I showed you in the first place. They also had a PV trailer for OG gaidan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64IcaPgZ3Qg&feature=related) and since you are currently playing OG 1 and 2 this will show you the characters in mecha that isn't in the gba games. :p Glad you like the Z trailer; when I saw it I think it would work well for atlus. The PV4 could work if atlus want to use it but if they have yet to make a trailer that is three minuets long or could shorten it up and use that as well as other PVs that Banpresto released.
Good thing you like my idea. I would also buy this on day one even without spoils but having something like a little Genpest would be good. As for the artbook, it would be like the ones in Persona 3 and 4, if you want to see samples than you should see my post with Crimson Cloud a few pages back.
I think they will first make it on the DS and then as OG/OGG remake it for a system. Or they could just release it state to console and maybe but it on the PS3. (region free yay!:D) Not to spoil it too much but as far as the Elemental Lords, the fight between Masaki and shu is unresolved since shu doesn’t even fight in OG2. We don't even get to see his Neo Granzon (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3830/neogranzon.jpg).
You last commit goes to what my theory is on how atlus can get the SRT games over here. So wait a little while longer for it one my next post.
sdragon21
05-24-2009, 06:48 PM
You know what would be freakin sweet??? If Namco Bandai made a SRW game with every single gundam series known to man. Throw it on the 360 and PS3 with hi res 2d graphics, incredible animation, plus tailor it exclusively for a U.S. audience and *BOOM* Namco Bandai would have an instant money maker on their hands.
Anybody else agree with me on this???
Purgeon
05-24-2009, 07:09 PM
You wanna see Neo Granzon play OG Gaiden, that game rocked! No pun intended. If they brought OG 1and 2 out I do hope that one would follow.
Tatsuya Suou
05-24-2009, 07:24 PM
You know what would be freakin sweet??? If Namco Bandai made a SRW game with every single gundam series known to man. Throw it on the 360 and PS3 with hi res 2d graphics, incredible animation, plus tailor it exclusively for a U.S. audience and *BOOM* Namco Bandai would have an instant money maker on their hands.
Anybody else agree with me on this???
I agree to an extent; you see I believe that the heart of an SRW game is its variety. While it my be awesome to see an SRW game with EVERY GUNDAM SERIES EVER (and new ones like 00 and Unicorn) there will be some against it because fans my not like an SRW game with only Gundam in it. (Reals vs Supers fandom ex.) And besides there is still Bandai Entertainment, localizing company of all things Gundam, to work with. I agree for having an US exclusive SRW game, but to satisfy all fans it will have to be more or it will just be Dynasty Warriors Gundam with SRW gameplay.
You wanna see Neo Granzon play OG Gaiden, that game rocked! No pun intended. If they brought OG 1and 2 out I do hope that one would follow.
Wait, you mean this Neo Granzon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=397TFVed90Q&feature=related) in OGG? We'll for those who beat OG2 find out that you don't even see him in it. So this will be one reason to get this in the states.
sdragon21
05-24-2009, 07:37 PM
You know what would be freakin sweet??? If Namco Bandai made a SRW game with every single gundam series known to man. Throw it on the 360 and PS3 with hi res 2d graphics, incredible animation, plus tailor it exclusively for a U.S. audience and *BOOM* Namco Bandai would have an instant money maker on their hands.
Anybody else agree with me on this???
I agree to an extent; you see I believe that the heart of an SRW game is its variety. While it my be awesome to see an SRW game with EVERY GUNDAM SERIES EVER (and new ones like 00 and Unicorn) there will be some against it because fans my not like an SRW game with only Gundam in it. (Reals vs Supers fandom ex.) And besides there is still Bandai Entertainment, localizing company of all things Gundam, to work with. I agree for having an US exclusive SRW game, but to satisfy all fans it will have to be more or it will just be Dynasty Warriors Gundam with SRW gameplay.
You wanna see Neo Granzon play OG Gaiden, that game rocked! No pun intended. If they brought OG 1and 2 out I do hope that one would follow.
Wait, you mean this Neo Granzon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=397TFVed90Q&feature=related) in OGG? We'll for those who beat OG2 find out that you don't even see him in it. So this will be one reason to get this in the states.
You've got a point Tatsuya, i wouldn't want it to be like DW:Gundam with SRW gameplay. If there was to be a US exclusive SRW game, i'd wanna see some Transformers in there, preferably the Armada Series.
Tatsuya Suou
05-24-2009, 07:48 PM
Most definitely would like to see Transformers in it. For me it would be either Cybertron or G1. But what I really want to see and I am sure many would agree is an epic show know as Megas XLR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNu6_dxWbNo) to be an US exclusive.
Zeta_Nova
05-24-2009, 08:36 PM
That'd be cool. We'd have our share of japanese and U.S VOs screaming the attacks :). Then throw in some Heroic Age and AQUARION, and have FUNimation's actors
Takara_Kitsune
05-25-2009, 12:54 AM
Admittedly, I think Transformers is overrated. ^^; Which is probably not something to say when there are others clearly very interested in it. (And it's ironic, since I love transformation, and clearly have some sort of affinity for giant robots, yet here I am calling Transformers overrated...)
Either way, it could be pretty cool, a Super Robot game with some American stuff in it... I had to laugh a bit when you mentioned Megas XLR, Tatsuya. That show was great. ^^ Unfortunate it had such a short run, though... Like all good shows, they just never catch on. I almost would have placed it up there with Freakazoid. ^^ And that's saying something.
Crimson Cloud
05-25-2009, 01:28 AM
If there was to be a US exclusive SRW game, i'd wanna see some Transformers in there, preferably the Armada Series.
That would be a good idea, especially Armada as I find it most appealing of all newer transformers series.
I would also agree with people who stated that they wish to see OG/OGG released this year, if the translation happens. I'll be much more busy next year as I'm finishing the collage and starting a real work so this time of year is the best for me to play it and at least beat it 3-4 times :D
Zeta_Nova
05-25-2009, 07:07 AM
Well, in that case, Atlus would need to recreate backgrounds for Armada. Like in Cyberton or somewhere on Earth (United States etc...).
sdragon21
05-25-2009, 02:21 PM
1 week to go!!! By this time next tuesday, we'll know wether or not original generations will indeed be heading stateside.
Keep the hope alive!!!
Zeta_Nova
05-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Either that, or I'm cashin' in for a PS3. Still though, I haven't lost hope.
Tatsuya Suou
05-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Can't wait!:D I know atlus wont' let us down. Having EF tells us that they want to give SRT another chance. But they must be careful this time.... I myself do own a 60gig PS3 (witch is finishing it's repairs by the end of the week.)
Admittedly, I think Transformers is overrated. ^^; Which is probably not something to say when there are others clearly very interested in it. (And it's ironic, since I love transformation, and clearly have some sort of affinity for giant robots, yet here I am calling Transformers overrated...)
Either way, it could be pretty cool, a Super Robot game with some American stuff in it... I had to laugh a bit when you mentioned Megas XLR, Tatsuya. That show was great. ^^ Unfortunate it had such a short run, though... Like all good shows, they just never catch on. I almost would have placed it up there with Freakazoid. ^^ And that's saying something.
I'll admit that Transformers has lost its spark (no pun intended) when it comes to popularity these days. The trilogy that was out (Armada Energon and Cybertron) wasn’t as good for those who’ve seen shows before it like Beast Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMOGPX8-I8). If you’re ever interested in Transformers than I suggest you watch the 1984 Transformers movie or Beast Wars witch is my favorite in the saga. But for now in enjoy the best of both worlds with this Optimus Prime Liger Zero Custom.
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/359/transformersoptimuslige.jpg)
Yeah Megas XLR is now a clut classic for crazed robot fans like me. Having that and other US exlusive in a SRW game would be someting eilse.
If there was to be a US exclusive SRW game, i'd wanna see some Transformers in there, preferably the Armada Series.
That would be a good idea, especially Armada as I find it most appealing of all newer transformers series.
I would also agree with people who stated that they wish to see OG/OGG released this year, if the translation happens. I'll be much more busy next year as I'm finishing the collage and starting a real work so this time of year is the best for me to play it and at least beat it 3-4 times :D
Like I said my favorite is Beast Wars, next to the old movie. I’m not that big a fan of Armada or the other two (mainly because the US versions dialogue is too cheesy for my tastes.) But I do agree it is ok for newcomers, but I would still prefer Beast Wars for a first timer.
The job I have gives me time in between to get either enough gaming or enough time on my PC on a daily basis. OG/OGG must release this year because not only would be yet another impossible thin to happen, (next to Street Fighter 4 and TVC) but it will make the ps2 give more time in its lifespan.
My theory should be ready on my next post so be sure to check it out and before I post it that it is only my thoughts and it isn’t fully related to OG.
Zeta_Nova
05-25-2009, 06:06 PM
Well for me. As much as TF is an interesting series. I'd rather have FUNimation's own AQUARION added to the mix. With japanese VOs and english text.
Tatsuya Suou
05-25-2009, 06:34 PM
But..AQUARION is already in SRW Z as shown here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOVgdw6KmQw). And as a hint to my little theory it dose have to do with Funimation Entertainment and the fact that the have this and other licenses from ADV and Geneon.
Zeta_Nova
05-25-2009, 07:15 PM
That's right. Though, what about MS Gundam 00 and Code Geass? I doubt any SRW has picked these series yet
Tatsuya Suou
05-25-2009, 07:39 PM
Not yet, but they will soon, most likely in Z2. Both of these are under the license of Bandai Entertainment. From what I know Bandai is the first of the several major companies while Funimation Entertainment is the second. (mainly because of the ongoing acquirement of ADV and Geneon)
Zeta_Nova
05-25-2009, 07:42 PM
Oh well. At least this game alone still has lots of original mechs. Even though they're not owned by a known licensor. Both this and OGG. Hopefully by this year (perhaps E3) that we may see something along these lines :).
sdragon21
05-26-2009, 11:47 AM
E3 can't come soon enough. Please let it bring good news.
Tatsuya Suou
05-26-2009, 12:11 PM
Here is the theory I hinted in some of the thread I posted, this is what I think atlus should do to get more SRT games to the US. Because this is longer then my normal 'long post" I’m going to post two parts. Be sure to read it and I will tell you right now, even though I think this is what I think they should do, I don't suggest them to do it unless they are able to. This has noting to do with the thread suggestion but instead of posting a new thread, I deiced to put it here as semi-related. Keep in mind that if OG/OGG were to be released here and it is successful the most logical thing to do next is to localize more SRT games. But wait; here comes the licensing nightmare going down atlus throat. This theory is what I think atlus should do to beat this problem.
As many know by now giant robot anime has many licensee by many companies in the US. But most my not know that about 90% of robot anime has been handled be a few major companies. Some may know of these companies when they watch anime but I have done some research and found five companies that have localized the most when it comes to giant robot anime.
Those five are the following: Bandai Entertainment, known for it's gundam franchise, ADV Films known for its supers and non-gundam series like Mazinkaiser and Macross, Media blasters, who know for licensing Gaogaigar, Voltron and Tekkaman Blade, Geneon Entertainment and Funimation Entertainment. For Funimation Entertainment, they have started acquiring products from both Geneon Entertainment and ADV Films and have since then licensed AQUARION and Heroic Age. Some robot animes like Zoids: Genesis are licensed by Viz Media but since it is a rarity for that company to license giant robot animes, I didn’t include them.
My theory is that Atlus would have to establish an agreement with these companies in some way. They my be able to only have to make an agreement with Bandai Entertainment and Funimation Entertainment for approval to license there produce for the games localization, but it would be best if they can get approval for all companies that are currently active. Keep in mind I am fully aware that by doing this it will cost atlus tons of money and if they don't get a profit from them than they would go out of business. This is only my theory so I don't need anyone telling me that it will never work.
I said the same thing for other games but I have been proving wrong. A few months ago, NIS America has localized a game called Cross Edge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9WgEC-yBvY). I personally don't know much about it other than the fact that it five different licensed charters in it.(notably ones in capcom and NIS flagship series Disgaea) I thought that there is a possibility for one company to have an agreement from several companies to use there products. I still wasn't sure how feasible it is for the concept to work, that is until I heard of this news (http://www.capcom-unity.com/kramez/blog/2009/05/18/capcom_e3_mystery_game_1_revealed_in_july_nintendo _power). By some sort of impossible feat, capcom has announced current licensed nightmare game Tatsunoko VS Capcom over to the US. I do not think some of you understand how important this is in terms of licensing issues. Aside for many characters from Tatsunoko produces one character, Yatterman is in itself is a licensing nightmare. The show always has cameos of the likes of speed racer, Gatchaman and many others. An example is of Yataman’s rivals team Doronjo meet up with both Speed Racer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Og6RuaKo4)and Gatchaman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1LITc4kGmk&feature=related) in the new Yataman anime.
Tatsuya Suou
05-26-2009, 12:12 PM
I want to reply to some things Takara_Kitsune in an earlier post.
Capcom pulled off a rare miracle with that TvC thing. I'm excited about it, but... I suppose it is partially because only 4 of the related anime are licensed in the US, and I suppose those license holders were willing to cooperate. Way I see it, it could only benefit them. Put characters in a game, it's marketing. People will get curious, want to know more, and next thing you know, there's a market for Tatsunoko anime in the US. Same thing could potentially work for Super Robot Taisen... but, because of the nature of the cameos, it'd be harder. I mean, a game that's literally carrying 20 series worth of cameos in one title may be a bit weighty to negotiate. It's not that no one's willing, it's just that it's potentially something that could take years, and I don't blame Atlus for not wanting to get involved with that. You have three things to worry about in that case: Things that are not licensed in the US. Things that are, and the license holders are willing to allow usage. And then things that are licensed and the holders are not willing to let the license be used unless they are paid a ridiculous sum of money up front. I'd rather Atlus spent their money on more games than on gaining rights for something that may not recoup their costs, if you know what I mean. You'd buy it, I'd buy it, and everyone on this thread would buy it... but that doesn't cover the $30k that the holder of "Anime License X" wants up front. .
You put a few good points here. It is true that the announcement of TVC is noting short of a miracle. I believe that the Tatsunoko products that are licensed in the US that has to do with this game is five. That being Gatchaman, Casshern, Tekkaman, Hurricane Polymar and Karas. I’m sure the one you missed was Hurricane Polymar; I think that’s because that not only that the OVA remake was brought here but it was by Urban Vision whose status is low as far as I know. If you read on the Nintendo Power article on this game you will see a part in it that says “Since the Tatsunoko characters are originally Japanese anime charaters, I higly recommend the players check them out on DVDs and though other media prior to trying out the game.” This was a quote of the producer of the game. Now this my be nothing but a gesture for those who are Curious about Tatsunoko, but if you ask me this is opining a door for what you said about Tatsunoko company in the US. This same philosophy is the same for atlus and SRT. By working an agreement with the five companies and Banpresto and have the ability to release more SRW games, they can do the same and recommend players to see that anime that relates to the mehca that is in the game. By doing this correctly, they can make SRT as popular as there Persona franchise. As far as companies that are willing to give altus licenses, if they see the profit probability then they may consider. However as you said it may take to long of a time to get one license or a company would want too much money for it. (one mecha anime I can think of that my be a problem is macross 7, for those who don’t know this anime has a music band that is very popular in Japan in the 90s and if it were to be licensed in the us it will cost to much for anyone to handle with.) It is true there is no guarantee that having the licensee so that the game can be brought over can make a profit, but there is always a chance that it would. Like I said in another post I am a fan of the NIS America game Disgaea. That game was in the same boat as SRT that it was a small game that became very well known because of it’s sues of it’s first game. Because of the successes of that game, there is now an NIS branch in the US. (funny thing is that the first game was localized by atlus themselves) So even though it is a big risk, if they want to get more SRT games here than that is a risk to take. (though I don’t recommend if it means the end of atlus)
As far as the mecha animes that are currently in SRW games, I have found a Wikipedia link featuring Every robot to appear in SRW games. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_series_featured_in_Super_Robot_Wars) As you can see the ones like gundam as I said can be done by Bandai ones like Mazneer and Gravion can be done by Funimation, but what about the others without license. That would be handle by Namco Bandai. I say this because I look at a game like Dynasty warriors gundam for an example; that game feature gundam series that have yet to show in the US. But as I said the two major companies to work an agent on are Bandai Entertainment and Funimation Entertainment. Both have acquired the most and both would be the two best suited to work out an agreement on.
Lets say atlus were to try and localize SRW Z for the US, the newest SRW game for consoles. They would have to only work with the two major companies plus Namco Bandai/Banpresto on the non-licensed animes. The licensed anime of Bandai are: Overman King Gainer, The Big O, The Big O 2nd Season, Zeta Gundam, Char's Counterattack, Gundam SEED Destiny and Eureka Seven. The ones Funimation has is Aquarion but if there will continue to gain more products from ADV then it will be Gravion and Gravion Zwei to. The others that are not license are Gundam X, Turn A Gundam, Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Getter Robo G, Grendizer, Zambot 3, Daitarn 3 ,Xabungle, Orguss, Baldios and God Sigma. Quite a few isn’t there. The two Gundam animes, would most likely be handed by Bandai while ones like Mazinger Z, and Getter Robo G would be by ADV or Funimation. The unlicensed ones may only need approval by Namco Bandai to be used by atlus. The thing is in order to be able to use unlicensed animes it will most likely be the need of approval to both Namco Bandai and Banpresto.
The bottom line is that Atlus knew they were taking a risk with Endless frontier. Because they are tiring to bring back interest in SRT, they are unintentionally bringing interest in series as a whole, not just OG. Once they bring OG/OGG here as well it will
They have sown the seed; the rest is up to them for it to bare fruit.
So there you have it, my insane little theory in how atlus can localize non-OG SRT games. I don't encourage them to do it if they can't, but if capcom can pull of the impossible with TVC then anything is possible. (granted atlus isn't nearly has huge of a company as capcom is now but NIS America is not to different from atlus and they were able to handle license issue to bring a game to the states.) I would one day like to see more SRT games in the near future and maybe we can get collector sets of past SRW games we missed now with full translation in them. I'll end this with two epic videos of SRT ALPHA 3 and SRT Z to show many what it would be like if atlus were to one day solve the licensed issue that plague these amazing games. With E3 only a week away, I do hope that OG/OGG will finally be released here. If atlus were to consider this idea, just keep in mind I don't want them to if they will go out of business, but If they can pull a miracle like Capcom than I can say that with certainly that the Super Robot Taisen series would become they second major series next to Persona.
SRW @3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCw1HsHeck8&feature=related)
SRW Z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq8fpn5MUd8&feature=related)
Zeta_Nova
05-26-2009, 12:24 PM
E3 can't come soon enough. Please let it bring good news.
I'm with you there, and seeing as this' one of the presenters of E3. And from looking at the vids on youtube. I've been also wanting to play this game as well.
sdragon21
05-26-2009, 02:21 PM
I want to reply to some things Takara_Kitsune in an earlier post.
Capcom pulled off a rare miracle with that TvC thing. I'm excited about it, but... I suppose it is partially because only 4 of the related anime are licensed in the US, and I suppose those license holders were willing to cooperate. Way I see it, it could only benefit them. Put characters in a game, it's marketing. People will get curious, want to know more, and next thing you know, there's a market for Tatsunoko anime in the US. Same thing could potentially work for Super Robot Taisen... but, because of the nature of the cameos, it'd be harder. I mean, a game that's literally carrying 20 series worth of cameos in one title may be a bit weighty to negotiate. It's not that no one's willing, it's just that it's potentially something that could take years, and I don't blame Atlus for not wanting to get involved with that. You have three things to worry about in that case: Things that are not licensed in the US. Things that are, and the license holders are willing to allow usage. And then things that are licensed and the holders are not willing to let the license be used unless they are paid a ridiculous sum of money up front. I'd rather Atlus spent their money on more games than on gaining rights for something that may not recoup their costs, if you know what I mean. You'd buy it, I'd buy it, and everyone on this thread would buy it... but that doesn't cover the $30k that the holder of "Anime License X" wants up front. .
You put a few good points here. It is true that the announcement of TVC is noting short of a miracle. I believe that the Tatsunoko products that are licensed in the US that has to do with this game is five. That being Gatchaman, Casshern, Tekkaman, Hurricane Polymar and Karas. I’m sure the one you missed was Hurricane Polymar; I think that’s because that not only that the OVA remake was brought here but it was by Urban Vision whose status is low as far as I know. If you read on the Nintendo Power article on this game you will see a part in it that says “Since the Tatsunoko characters are originally Japanese anime charaters, I higly recommend the players check them out on DVDs and though other media prior to trying out the game.” This was a quote of the producer of the game. Now this my be nothing but a gesture for those who are Curious about Tatsunoko, but if you ask me this is opining a door for what you said about Tatsunoko company in the US. This same philosophy is the same for atlus and SRT. By working an agreement with the five companies and Banpresto and have the ability to release more SRW games, they can do the same and recommend players to see that anime that relates to the mehca that is in the game. By doing this correctly, they can make SRT as popular as there Persona franchise. As far as companies that are willing to give altus licenses, if they see the profit probability then they may consider. However as you said it may take to long of a time to get one license or a company would want too much money for it. (one mecha anime I can think of that my be a problem is macross 7, for those who don’t know this anime has a music band that is very popular in Japan in the 90s and if it were to be licensed in the us it will cost to much for anyone to handle with.) It is true there is no guarantee that having the licensee so that the game can be brought over can make a profit, but there is always a chance that it would. Like I said in another post I am a fan of the NIS America game Disgaea. That game was in the same boat as SRT that it was a small game that became very well known because of it’s sues of it’s first game. Because of the successes of that game, there is now an NIS branch in the US. (funny thing is that the first game was localized by atlus themselves) So even though it is a big risk, if they want to get more SRT games here than that is a risk to take. (though I don’t recommend if it means the end of atlus)
As far as the mecha animes that are currently in SRW games, I have found a Wikipedia link featuring Every robot to appear in SRW games. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_series_featured_in_Super_Robot_Wars) As you can see the ones like gundam as I said can be done by Bandai ones like Mazneer and Gravion can be done by Funimation, but what about the others without license. That would be handle by Namco Bandai. I say this because I look at a game like Dynasty warriors gundam for an example; that game feature gundam series that have yet to show in the US. But as I said the two major companies to work an agent on are Bandai Entertainment and Funimation Entertainment. Both have acquired the most and both would be the two best suited to work out an agreement on.
Lets say atlus were to try and localize SRW Z for the US, the newest SRW game for consoles. They would have to only work with the two major companies plus Namco Bandai/Banpresto on the non-licensed animes. The licensed anime of Bandai are: Overman King Gainer, The Big O, The Big O 2nd Season, Zeta Gundam, Char's Counterattack, Gundam SEED Destiny and Eureka Seven. The ones Funimation has is Aquarion but if there will continue to gain more products from ADV then it will be Gravion and Gravion Zwei to. The others that are not license are Gundam X, Turn A Gundam, Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Getter Robo G, Grendizer, Zambot 3, Daitarn 3 ,Xabungle, Orguss, Baldios and God Sigma. Quite a few isn’t there. The two Gundam animes, would most likely be handed by Bandai while ones like Mazinger Z, and Getter Robo G would be by ADV or Funimation. The unlicensed ones may only need approval by Namco Bandai to be used by atlus. The thing is in order to be able to use unlicensed animes it will most likely be the need of approval to both Namco Bandai and Banpresto.
The bottom line is that Atlus knew they were taking a risk with Endless frontier. Because they are tiring to bring back interest in SRT, they are unintentionally bringing interest in series as a whole, not just OG. Once they bring OG/OGG here as well it will
They have sown the seed; the rest is up to them for it to bare fruit.
So there you have it, my insane little theory in how atlus can localize non-OG SRT games. I don't encourage them to do it if they can't, but if capcom can pull of the impossible with TVC then anything is possible. (granted atlus isn't nearly has huge of a company as capcom is now but NIS America is not to different from atlus and they were able to handle license issue to bring a game to the states.) I would one day like to see more SRT games in the near future and maybe we can get collector sets of past SRW games we missed now with full translation in them. I'll end this with two epic videos of SRT ALPHA 3 and SRT Z to show many what it would be like if atlus were to one day solve the licensed issue that plague these amazing games. With E3 only a week away, I do hope that OG/OGG will finally be released here. If atlus were to consider this idea, just keep in mind I don't want them to if they will go out of business, but If they can pull a miracle like Capcom than I can say that with certainly that the Super Robot Taisen series would become they second major series next to Persona.
SRW @3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCw1HsHeck8&feature=related)
SRW Z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq8fpn5MUd8&feature=related)
*Gives Tatsuya One Hell of a round of Applause, and an extremly big cookie after the Applause*
Zeta_Nova
05-26-2009, 05:32 PM
For SRW Z, chances're kinda slim. No thanks to those various licenses in those games. Unlike OG/OGG, where there's no known license whatsoever.
Tatsuya Suou
05-26-2009, 05:53 PM
*Gives Tatsuya One Hell of a round of Applause, and an extremly big cookie after the Applause*
Aww thanks, I love cookes!:smile:
For SRW Z, chances're kinda slim. No thanks to those various licenses in those games. Unlike OG/OGG, where there's no known license whatsoever.
More like slim to none, if OG/OGG don't sell well once it is released. But on the chance it doses, then there is an off chance this could be one way of doing it. Like I said for Z it will be Bandai, Funimation, Namco Bandai and Banpresto that atlus would have to negotiate with. (On a side note Funimation is showing its importance for localizing the new Evangelion 1.0 and announcing that for the release of Sgt. Frog stating that they will keep the Macross and Gundam references intact)
Well we will find out atlus answer in less than a week.
Zeta_Nova
05-26-2009, 08:00 PM
Well, as it stands the sites, even IGN seem to be pretty busy. Updatin' round the clock with these interesting Pre-E3 titles. Perhaps we may see one for this game on these Pre-E3 articles :).
Kyoji
05-26-2009, 08:02 PM
Well, we can hope. ...we can hope... I just beat OG2, and I am NOT satisfied with how it ended. I NEED OGs and OGG.
Zeta_Nova
05-26-2009, 08:24 PM
I think we all want to play this game. Considering that this' the true successor to the GBA game. And that it builds on it.
sdragon21
05-27-2009, 02:21 PM
*huddled in corner*
Must... Have... Giant Robot Fix...
Tatsuya Suou
05-27-2009, 02:46 PM
Stay strong my comrade.. stay strong. If you haven't beat it already I would play Endless Fortier to hold you off for now. (that’s what I'm doing) almost finished with it and I can say it is very related to "one group of enemies" in OG2.
Well, we can hope. ...we can hope... I just beat OG2, and I am NOT satisfied with how it ended. I NEED OGs and OGG.
:agree: Very this, not to spoil it for others but not only do we get an unavoidable loss of a new member of your team but we never get to encounter a certain boss from OG1.
I think we all want to play this game. Considering that this' the true successor to the GBA game. And that it builds on it.
Not only that but next to Z is the latest SRW game for consoles.
Anyway, by the will of the Time Diver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT0SauXS30A&feature=related), THIS GAME WILL COME!
sdragon21
05-27-2009, 02:55 PM
Thank you, Tatsuya. BY THE WILL OF THE TIME DRIVER,GRANT ME THE POWER TO KEEP ON FIGHTING!!!!
Zeta_Nova
05-27-2009, 03:59 PM
Anyways, how many stages does this game have as compared to the original GBA game? Heard it has like 47. Enough to get your mechs up to speed. Unlike Fire Emblem.
Tatsuya Suou
05-27-2009, 04:14 PM
More like 50+ from what I hear, (not including secret stages) and lets not forget the robots that aren’t in OG1 and OG2. Excuse the TIME DIVER engorgement moment earlier.
Zeta_Nova
05-27-2009, 06:10 PM
Also does it have a "stage replay" mode where your mechs can replay a certain battle map, so that your characters are leveled enough to face the next enemy? Like with the Luminous Arc and Disgaea series, they let you play a particular stage and that you can level up your characters.
sdragon21
05-27-2009, 07:08 PM
:)Also does it have a "stage replay" mode where your mechs can replay a certain battle map, so that your characters are leveled enough to face the next enemy? Like with the Luminous Arc and Disgaea series, they let you play a particular stage and that you can level up your characters.
No, SRT OGs does not have a stage replay feature. Once you finish a stage, you have an intermission screen where you can upgrade yout units, train your pilots, save your game and more before moving on. Also, in order to power up your mechs and their attacks/weapons, you need to use money earned in battle. So think of it this way: More Money=Stronger Units.
Hope that helps.
Tatsuya Suou
05-27-2009, 07:23 PM
That is in the gba ones, this one I'm am posting is for the PS2 one.
Now I am not sure if this true, what I am telling you now is based on a little research on the game and some youtube vid commits. From what I heard (and I think it's a good addition) there is the Free play mode (or battle viewer?) were you play as the bossed in the game or you can remove limits on pilots so they can pilot mecha the normally wouldn’t like Latooni Special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fh1LghX9U), axel taking over (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAEcnFvm2s8) while Kyosuke is on vacation, the Zweizergain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bGGp6fE44&feature=related) the Excellen Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcmd8oIBVCk&feature=related) and this impossible one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hchsrbnQ0fA). (Now the thing I said about the bosses, I am still not sure about but if you look then they are on the ally side. But if I’m wrong than it could be hax) I do know there are other mini gamse in it too.
Constraint
05-27-2009, 07:30 PM
I'm still gonna cling to hope till E3. If nothing is announced about this game, then I have lost all hope for this to come stateside.
Takara_Kitsune
05-27-2009, 07:51 PM
At this point, I'm trying to avoid E3 news, as it just increases anticipation and makes things seem longer. Of course, there's a lot of good stuff coming our way anyway... I mean, even without OGs or OGG. Like we already know we're getting Persona PSP, and I'm certain Atlus USA will pick up HOSPITAL. Not to mention Devil Survivor in a few weeks, and Class of Heroes in a little over a week.
That's not even including the non-Atlus games that we should all be hyped for. BlazBlue, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver... It's going to be fun hearing what comes out of E3, but I do agree with what they said on Kotaku with all these announcements... "And... why do we have the convention again?" :P
Zeta_Nova
05-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Yeah, if it doesn't make it by E3 when Atlus announce the rest of their games. Then I will totally switch to other noteworthy Wii or PS3 titles. Which my PS2's in danger of getting sold or traded in to GameStop towards something worthwhile playing; The PS3 :(. I really want to play this really bad
Still, I know Atlus won't let us down and we'll know something during the big show next week.
Takara_Kitsune
05-27-2009, 10:46 PM
Yeah, if it doesn't make it by E3 when Atlus announce the rest of their games. Then I will totally switch to other noteworthy Wii or PS3 titles. Which my PS2's in danger of getting sold or traded in to GameStop towards something worthwhile playing; The PS3.
Still, I know Atlus won't let us down and we'll know something during the big show next week.
Well, let's keep in mind, Atlus has a tendency to announce games throughout the year. They don't save all the announcements for one time in particular. However, this one seems likely to be announced at E3 if ever.
As far as noteworthy Wii games... I forgot to mention in my post, that Muramasa is another game I'm looking at. And... I'd hold off selling your PS2 if you liked Atelier Iris or Mana Khemia, because Mana Khemia 2 is supposed to get an official release date at E3... or so I hear.
Zeta_Nova
05-27-2009, 11:08 PM
True it may not just be E3. Though that odd reply; "spencer....spencer..." kinda hints sometime during the course of this year.
And that half of the Tales team working on XSEED's new promising Wii title; Arc Rise Fantasia.
sdragon21
05-29-2009, 05:17 AM
We're nearing the home stretch, a little less than 72 hours to go until E3 beins.
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 06:05 AM
Indeed. It'd be cool to finally read what they're saying, in it's english form.
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 08:23 AM
Can’t wait to see they’re answer. That odd "spencer....spencer..." remark in the end was also somewhat related to my theory I posted before. Maybe along with this game, they will also give us a surprise with it. Perhaps pull off an impossible like Capcom and actually bring the Alpha trilogy or Z to the states, one could hope.
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 10:11 AM
Yeah, Atlus never lets us down :). Well afterall; Atlus, Square, Nintendo and Capcom take into account to what the fans want. Unlike NBGI, where they'e more "hush-hush" about giving us their Tales games
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 10:23 AM
Very true, they are making up for last years E3. If they don't want to lose fans, then they'll announce the next tales game. (even though for me I haven't played that many Tales kind of because I lost track of them.)
Also for all those who haven’t voted yet, there is still time before E3. Lets make this and Growlanser thread reach "five stars".
Crimson Cloud
05-29-2009, 12:12 PM
Don't be greedy guys, it is already enough if they consider OG1/OG2 and maybe OG Gaiden but thinking about Z or other out there would be unfair. I'm not saying they shouldn't but if they decide to release that instead of OG I'll be coming for blood because of you guys :p
sdragon21
05-29-2009, 12:21 PM
If Atlus were to bring over any of the Alpha Trilogy, i'd for sure get alpha 3 for the Evanglion and Virtual On Mechs alone.
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 01:19 PM
Don't be greedy guys, it is already enough if they consider OG1/OG2 and maybe OG Gaiden but thinking about Z or other out there would be unfair. I'm not saying they shouldn't but if they decide to release that instead of OG I'll be coming for blood because of you guys :p
:D Aw don't worry; I wouldn’t want them to release either before OG. I know atlus by now; I don't think they will do something THAT crazy before seeing how OG/OGG will sell.
Here is how I think it will go down, atlus release OG for the ps2 FIRST. Then after seeing how it dose in salls (and trust me that it will defiantly sell better than the gba ones) then given the opportunity, they will find some way to get non-OG SRT games here. This is why I posted my theory to show what atlus would have to do. Plus OG Gaiden is kind of like OG2, it’s complex but there are only three versions of OG on the PS2. ( OG, OGG and OG 2.5 )
Also for @3 for me is the likes of Gunbuster and Gaogaigar to bring me to buy it on Day One.
Urvin1
05-29-2009, 03:48 PM
That would be nothing sort of a miracle if they brought any of the other alphas here, but I'll just satisfied with just the OGS...I can surely do without ever getting Alpha 3.
*Shivers at the thought of Macross 7*
And now we have Trauma Team! D :
Don't forget to vote!
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 06:37 PM
Aw team M7 isn’t that bad. Besides there is so much awesome in the game that one team won't spoil it for you. For those who don't know Macorss 7 in SRW@3 here is a quick vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3IIkyRe8fs) on them. Anyway I don't want atlus to even consider this if they can't. For now I will settle for OGS, but on that one day when the time is right.
Time to show a little what @3 has to offer even with M7. Complete with the Gespenst them song. TIME TO COME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-135p90ArbY&feature=related)
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 06:58 PM
With those kind of intense animations. I doubt any company would say "no" and would step up and would want to pick this up. Mostly you guys, because I know you like flashy stuff and anime videogames.
OWARI-DA!
JAM Project - SRT/SRW OG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnSGsKFQ-o): Rocks
Urvin1
05-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Aw team M7 isn’t that bad. Besides there is so much awesome in the game that one team won't spoil it for you. For those who don't know Macorss 7 in SRW@3 here is a quick vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3IIkyRe8fs) on them. Anyway I don't want atlus to even consider this if they can't. For now I will settle for OGS, but on that one day when the time is right.
Time to show a little what @3 has to offer even with M7. Complete with the Gespenst them song. TIME TO COME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-135p90ArbY&feature=related)
Its considered one of the weakest (if not the worst) Macross in the series. I understood the premise with the power of song, but what I gathered in the first couple of episodes it almost disregarded other favorable traits Macross was known for and focused on the crap-tastic. Don't get me wrong, any person can tell that series had it hokey moments, but when Variable fighters inch lazily to the right to avoid enemy fire, you know there is a problem. There is a reason why my Alpha Gaiden Isamu was amongst my top tier! It was because he dodged like crazy and hit like a full fledged semi truck. Valkyries are fast, highly advance transformable fighters! Banpresto doesn't give speedy stats to reals who fly in a straight line and get shot down.
But... maybe I'm just one of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who felt betrayed by the show. But then we got Macross F and it washed away the bad taste in my mouth. Of course, if Banprestro can make Brain Powered tolerable and fix the Seed Destiny plot, then maybe one day I'll give the Sound Force a chance. Ouh, no offense to the M7 fans out there.
But I want my OGS first >.>
Vote!
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 07:28 PM
Yeah, I never liked Macross. The only mech that interested me at the time was the Gundam franchise + Jinki:Extend.
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 08:09 PM
Liked it ever since it was once called Robotech. (but lets not get into that)
With those kind of intense animations. I doubt any company would say "no" and would step up and would want to pick this up. Mostly you guys, because I know you like flashy stuff and anime videogames.
OWARI-DA!
JAM Project - SRT/SRW OG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnSGsKFQ-o): Rocks
Hey a variation of the ROCKS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krAn44bzjhk&feature=related)vid from my dub thread (seamless plug). But it not just us on this thread; anyone with a love for giant robot action will love this. And the SRPG gameplay is one of the most fun around. (but for now I'll stop with the vids just to not make this into a SRT video thread.)
Aw team M7 isn’t that bad. Besides there is so much awesome in the game that one team won't spoil it for you. For those who don't know Macorss 7 in SRW@3 here is a quick vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3IIkyRe8fs) on them. Anyway I don't want atlus to even consider this if they can't. For now I will settle for OGS, but on that one day when the time is right.
Time to show a little what @3 has to offer even with M7. Complete with the Gespenst them song. TIME TO COME! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-135p90ArbY&feature=related)
Its considered one of the weakest (if not the worst) Macross in the series. I understood the premise with the power of song, but what I gathered in the first couple of episodes it almost disregarded other favorable traits Macross was known for and focused on the crap-tastic. Don't get me wrong, any person can tell that series had it hokey moments, but when Variable fighters inch lazily to the right to avoid enemy fire, you know there is a problem. There is a reason why my Alpha Gaiden Isamu was amongst my top tier! It was because he dodged like crazy and hit like a full fledged semi truck. Valkyries are fast, highly advance transformable fighters! Banpresto doesn't give speedy stats to reals who fly in a straight line and get shot down.
But... maybe I'm just one of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who felt betrayed by the show. But then we got Macross F and it washed away the bad taste in my mouth. Of course, if Banprestro can make Brain Powered tolerable and fix the Seed Destiny plot, then maybe one day I'll give the Sound Force a chance. Ouh, no offense to the M7 fans out there.
But I want my OGS first >.>
Vote!
It seems you made you're mind on Macross 7 and nothing I would say would change it. For me I agree in comparison to normal Macross shows like the original and plus that this is the worst. I won't make excuses for it, M7 is one thing and one thing only: a lighthearted rock fest, not suited for people who like lots of robot action. (but in its defense, the Diamond Force was awesome no mater how you look at it) I haven’t watch frontier yet but I have heard around that it has mixed reviews. For me the heart of Macorss was always the music, and yes even though Macorss 7 failed miserably in the highflying action, it succeed well in the music score. (With lead vocalist Yoshiki Fukuyama, being one the best in J-Rock) I always look at M7 as not you're typical Macorss series and I don't recommend others should to. It is more to people with an open mind and who is more into the music than the action. I know that isn't what people want with their transforming fighter jets, but if seen with a different perspective than it is tolerable. (and like I said Diamond force is worth it alone, Gamlin Kick! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ3S3SGTUUg)) Besides regardless on if you liked the show or not, you got to respect the guy for doing this moment in macorss history (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYeweTvfiM&feature=related).
Anyway like I said, I'll lay off on the vids and non-OG talk for now. I, like others will wait for OG.
And you must of notice, one vote per user. Plus they will have to put it on five for Excellent. What I would like to see if this could get to five stars and up to 50 pages. (Already at 46)
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 08:12 PM
Well, T minus 3 days. We'll know something by then. Can't wait til' E3 gets underway :). But it's not just Atlus. I'm also interested in what Capcom's brining to the U.S version of Tatsunoko vs Capcom.
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 08:33 PM
Same here man, TVC is Capcom's answer for no marvel vs. capcom 2 HD that is on PSN/XBOX LIVE. And on Tuesday morning we will find out its Mystery Game #2. (let it be MM Legends 3) Check out the thread (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1193&page=4) here for videos of the US version.
Another game I'm looking forward to is DMC creator’s new game Bayonetta. (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3689)
Needless to say this E3 is shaping up much better than last year.
Urvin1
05-29-2009, 09:33 PM
I can be opened minded, its just seems that M7 subtracted from other areas and put everything into music, which isn't a bad thing since all the other Macrosses had pretty f'ing good music. In my case, I wasn't really expecting the level of cheese in the first 2-3 episodes, and I went in and I was willing to give it a change. The action is not the sole reason I liked the other shows. The highfly action was only part of the reason. but... Since we're off topic already, have you watched the series Tatsuya? Does it actually get better as it progresses?
Bayonetta, while odd, it does seem to have that kind of charm I've grown to love from DMC. Jackpot!
Tatsuya Suou
05-29-2009, 10:30 PM
It indeed doses get better in time, Lets say around episode 15. I have indeed watched the whole series, 50 episodes plus extras, movie and OVA. (Yes; despite not being what many expected in a Macross series, it is the first to reached 50 episodes) That little clip I showed you was in a special encore episode; the Gamlin Kick! was in episode 18. It is true that for the most part it dose get silly but in an awesome way. It's hard to explain but I world try the first 20 episodes, around the time a certain "life sucking alien girl" shows up. But if you like the music then I can say that M7 is one of the best in the Macorss series. Trust me when I say, "I was prepared before hand" because if I wasn't and I only watched 2 or 3 episodes I would say it sucks too. In the end, it is still all about the music, but you'll appreciate it much more in the later episodes.
All it needs is Dante himself getting his ass kicked for a change by Bayonetta. lol
Well goodnight. :yawn:
Zeta_Nova
05-29-2009, 11:10 PM
Well, there's always Saturday, Sunday or next week.
Yet Another Tim
05-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Seeing how back when my little brother and I used to live overseas (and get to watch mecha anime on broadcast television), I will vouch for this, seeing how Namco Bandai Games America would rather milk Dragon Ball dry, which has already been done... OVER 9000!... times now, over the course of 20 years and counting.
Besides, I don't want to see SRW OGs get turned into spoiled milk, metaphorically speaking.
For the record, Summon Night, SRW OG, and Tales are all fresher for the milking... in America!
Zeta_Nova
05-30-2009, 04:53 AM
Well, if you want to see the game in the states. You've got to to vote. Personally though, I'm willing to start fresh with this series. And at this point, I don't care if it'll be done only in japanese VOs, as long as it gets translated of what they're saying.
sdragon21
05-30-2009, 05:49 AM
Still hoping for an english dub if this game gets announced. But if all the VO's are in japanese, i can live with it.
Zeta_Nova
05-30-2009, 06:39 AM
True, as you're only using VOs for the original characters. And that there's no license involved with this one (thank goodness) :D. And a cool thing is if they opt to include dual audio.
sdragon21
05-30-2009, 07:06 AM
It would be incredible if they included dual audio. If they were to do spoils for this game, here's what i would want:
CD Soundtrack featuring select songs from the game
A 90 page artbook
A plushie Alteisen
Steel Greyfalke
05-30-2009, 11:10 AM
It would be incredible if they included dual audio. If they were to do spoils for this game, here's what i would want:
CD Soundtrack featuring select songs from the game
A 90 page artbook
A plushie Alteisen
I think if they brought OG/OGG on us soil I would want the following :
A Gokin of Banpresto's Yuusha : Compatible Kaiser W/Battle Force Logo Keychain
an artbook W/ Commentary
BGM Tracks on CD
A T-shirt
Zeta_Nova
05-30-2009, 07:48 PM
If it was me, if Atlus decides to do this. I'll just be happy with the game alone. Don't want to push them too hard.
Tatsuya Suou
05-30-2009, 07:55 PM
Seeing how back when my little brother and I used to live overseas (and get to watch mecha anime on broadcast television), I will vouch for this, seeing how Namco Bandai Games America would rather milk Dragon Ball dry, which has already been done... OVER 9000!... times now, over the course of 20 years and counting.
Besides, I don't want to see SRW OGs get turned into spoiled milk, metaphorically speaking.
For the record, Summon Night, SRW OG, and Tales are all fresher for the milking... in America!
Seems you've been hanging out with "cowgirl" kaguya too much. lol :D
But you're right; when OG comes over here it will be just as big as dragon ball back when it first came out.
As for the two post above; while I believe that an artbook and soundtrack is a must for spoils( CD having 20 songs similar to Persnoa 3 and artbook base on the ones a few pages back) the plushie/figure would have to be a Gespenst. There is a reason for this; say for example I world want a mini Daizengar/Aussenseiter for an atlus spoils, someone like sdragon21 would want an alt. instead, then Steel Greyfalke would want a Compatible Kaiser mini, THEN another user may want a little SRX for spoils and then another would want a mini Fairlion....lol The suggestion of a mini Gespenst is the most logical pick for atlus to use. I am sure there are fans who love a robot more than another or in some cases if one likes team ATX or team SRX as in this video of there main robots go at it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CguXPYrwvgs&feature=related). There will be unnecessary complaints either way you look at it. The Gespenst as many know is the most unbiased when it comes to favorites.( both SRX and ATX piloted them as there first mechs) A Gespenst is ideal for any fan of OG. I doubt that atlus will have a Gespenst as good as this one here (http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/SD-GES.htm) but it will still be good. And for those who don't know the Gespenst, the Super of OG "Grungust" and the Real of OG "Huckebein" were the first Originals of SRW. (next to Cybuster and Valsione) I have a tribute video with an alternate version of of "time to come", SRW4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=CY2YOvf83Zs&feature=channel_page).
NOW SPEAKING OF DUBS! :D
As I have been shamelessly plugging in my last few post, SRT OG The dub Project (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3133) is the place for what I think would make a good cast of VAs for OG. The thread contained clips of the actors other work; rolls I fell would suit well for and as a bonus videos of OG/OGG for samples of the Japanese VOs, plus little extras. The main purpose is for others who view the thread will give there thoughts and suggest on what VA's they think will work. I have got a few good ones form others like the ones who have posted here. I want to help altus get an idea on how a good sounding English voiced SRT game would sound like. After hearing some feedback on some of the voices I pick (like how Steven Blum and Crispin Freeman wont work due to the whole "union" thing) and come up with a little list below on who I want atlus to but in the English version of OG.
One in particular I want more that JYB for Ryusei is Sanger Zonvolt to be done by Christ Sabat. He is one of the best VA's of Funimation Entertainment, well know for his multiple rolls in Dragnball Z. Sabat has the right tone and feel I would hear in Sanger's voice. Back when I first started thinking what would make good dubs of OG I saw the Sgt. Frog test video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=iQ5mQPVQmZ8) and hear him do Corporal Giroro and I thought, he must do Sanger Zonvolt. And as far as if he ever done swordsman voices, he is also the voice of Zoro in the One Peace re-dub. And it's not just Sanger, his counterpart and shadow mirror version Wodan Ymir fits well because they share the same voice. As I said Sabat is known for doing multiple rolls in voices, even at the same time. (when DBZ Vegeta and Piccolo are speaking together it is Sabat who is doing both voices) This video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdf72gmxaoU&feature=related)has his roll as King Piccolo would work perfectly for Wodan. There are others reasons for the others but to avoid going crazy about them I suggest to look at my dub thread and check the videos next to there names to hear how they sound like. It would perfect if this is dual voiced so that non-OG fans won’t miss out on the Original voices. Sure atlus did that with Endless Frontier but I would love for them to put good care and give us both options and a good English version. But in the end if it is Japanese only, I will be ok with it.
Now because we still have a little time before E3 (and I want to see if we can get this thread to 50 pages:p) I want to hear those who view the threads there thoughts on who would voice who. And as before don't forget to vote for newcomers and be sure to vote for " Excellent ". I'll see you later.
Ryusei Date: Johnny Yong Bosch
Excellen Browning: Wendee Lee
Sanger Zonvolt/Wodan Ymir: Christopher Sabat
Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield: Richard Ian Cox
Ingram Prisken: Jason Douglas
Levi Tolar /Mai Kobayashi: Michelle Ruff
Latooni Subota: Stephanie Sheh
Masaki Ando: Eric Vale
Lune Zoldark: Kate Higgins
Axel Arma: Yuri Lowenthal
Shu Shirakawa: Liam O'Brien
Folka Albark: Dr. Mark Gatha
Zeta_Nova
05-30-2009, 08:33 PM
Yeah, that might just work :). Suprisingly, they're also the only ones that can shout those thousand+ attacks in the game.
Urvin1
05-31-2009, 02:51 AM
As I read from Destructiod sometime today, Atlus has sent a press release announcing the games they will showcase at E3, and as indicated by the article, they will also hint at a few secret games coming at E3 if I'm not mistaken.
Atlus + E3 + SRW: OGS = Orgastic WIN! Make it happen >.>
Not sure if providing a source violates board rules. :/
sdragon21
05-31-2009, 05:20 AM
A little less than 24 hours to go. Keep the hope alive!!!
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 07:26 AM
As I read from Destructiod sometime today, Atlus has sent a press release announcing the games they will showcase at E3, and as indicated by the article, they will also hint at a few secret games coming at E3 if I'm not mistaken.
Atlus + E3 + SRW: OGS = Orgastic WIN! Make it happen >.>
Not sure if providing a source violates board rules. :/
Hopefully you're right. Because I've been wanting to play this game.
Crimson Cloud
05-31-2009, 10:06 AM
My personal favorites that I want to see on E3 (among many others) are Dragon Age: Origins, Final Fantasy XIII, Mass Effect 2 and Magna Carta 2 as I'm role-playing punk, but SRW:OG announcement from Atlus's side would be my number one Win. :devil:
Few hours to go, although yeah it may now be on day one but patience is all we have left.
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 01:44 PM
Well, whatever happens I trust Atlus that they'll pull through with this or any other game announcements :).
Urvin1
05-31-2009, 02:13 PM
You can go to Destructoid (google it) and just hit back on articles until it pops up.
I know a few people who will burst into a psychotic rage if they don't announce it...and I'll be forced to mod and play :/
On similar mech news, S-E have released a trailer for the new Front Mission game...and its a third person game. I hope its in the same spirit as the previous games or Armored Core with customization.
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 02:34 PM
Yeah, I saw it. Wonder what those "mystery games" of Atlus are about. Here's hoping it's Original Generations :).
Tatsuya Suou
05-31-2009, 03:20 PM
Quick link here (http://www.destructoid.com/pre-e3-2009-atlus-e3-win-133984.phtml&skin=) for those who are lazy. Yeah, I am looking forward to it being this long awaited game. (or maybe that and something even more of a surprise)
Atlus has already surprised us so far with so many announcements as of late, and in less than a day for E3 will get even more. It's not just atlus, I interested to companies like capcom (mystery game 2 to be reveled on Thursday) and Nintendo most of all. They relay need to make up for last years E3 (http://the-minusworld.com/2008/07/16/the-5-most-embarrasing-moments-of-nintendos-e3-conference/).
And as I said before, newcomers who haven’t voted yet, you can still before atlus announce their games for E3. Remember it is ONE vote per user, and if you want to see it go to five, the fastest way is to select five stars for "Excellent". Since I can't think of any way to get this to 50 pages how bout you're thoughts on what atlus will give us for this game. Say like spoils, US exclusives, dual language and of course as I last posted, you thoughts on good dubs for OG.
On last thing in regards to spoils, This Daizengar (http://gamu-toys.info/sonota/sonota/dfo01/dfo01.html) and this Aussenseiter (http://gamu-toys.info/sonota/sonota/dfo02/dfo02.html) is what I would be talking about were if not the decision to keep it a Gespenst.
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I just saw that. But doesn't Atlus tend to look into games even at 4 stars? Because T.T (Trauma Team) or Hospital was at 4. And they swiped the game right away.
Steel Greyfalke
05-31-2009, 06:33 PM
well that makes sense cuz I heard they might pull Ps2 games outta commision in late july And the clock is ticking, so im gonna get another copy of Endless frontier just to support....... I Must See(and cosplay just for My own amusenment) Ialdabaoth & Compatible Kaiser in the U.S.
Tatsuya Suou
05-31-2009, 06:49 PM
Even though that might be a possibility, I doubt it really is going to happen. As of now ps2 is making much more money than the PS3 is, so they may keep it going at least until next year.
Yeah, I just saw that. But doesn't Atlus tend to look into games even at 4 stars? Because T.T (Trauma Team) or Hospital was at 4. And they swiped the game right away.
Yes that is true indeed; games like Devil Summoner 2 (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1744) and Knights in the Nightmare (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528) were only 4 stars and they got picked up. Heck even Steal Princess (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230) and Endless Frontier (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351) was in three stars and were announced. The reason that I want this to five stars is for a reason other than atlus announcing it. As you know, once a game that is suggested gets announced the thread gets locked and becomes void for any more post. I did a quick sweep on the suggestion board and came up with this: despite only being "4 stars", this thread is the most viewed and has the most replies in the whole board. (47 pages and counting :D) Needless to say that regardless if it dose get announced, this thread will go down in atlus forums history as one of the largest threads ever. Before the game gets announced at E3 I want to try to get this to five stars and to cap at 50 pages, thus make this legendary thread one to remember. If it really dose get announced in a few days than I seriously doubt that it can get to 5 stars, let alone 50 pages.
So that basically it as to why I keep telling those who haven’t done it yet. Ether way, starting tomorrow we will find out once and for all, and if I can at least get this to 50 pages than I'll be happy.
Steel Greyfalke
05-31-2009, 07:15 PM
well umm quick question who's a good candidate to bo the voices of Roar ,Emmy & Dark Brain (i sure hope they use Mina Mina As Dark Brains Voice I dont know if that'll work out)
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 07:24 PM
Well, english or no english. It will still play out really cool :D. But still, it'd be cool if there would be english VOs.
Steel Greyfalke
05-31-2009, 07:32 PM
Word, either way Seiyuu Voices are fun (& Imitatible) :agree: but what will be the retail price , if it makes it?
dbolt
05-31-2009, 07:45 PM
I don't think it would cost more than 40 bucks. Anyway I'm hoping Atlus announces this game at E3 :)
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 07:46 PM
Probably $39 or $49 (if it gets packed with Original Generations Gaiden).
Daren
05-31-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm really excited to see if this will get announced. Tomorrow can't come soon enough.
Steel Greyfalke
05-31-2009, 08:18 PM
well if that happens i've already got a stash prepared just in case :devil: MUAHAHAHAHA
Steel Greyfalke
05-31-2009, 08:27 PM
speaking Of Original Generations/Gaiden does any one wanna get the Gespie Mk II Kai Model kit,
Zeta_Nova
05-31-2009, 08:33 PM
I hear that Daren. Let's keep our fingers crossed. But as for the game. How many people can you recruit?
Takara_Kitsune
06-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Yeah, I just saw that. But doesn't Atlus tend to look into games even at 4 stars? Because T.T (Trauma Team) or Hospital was at 4. And they swiped the game right away.
They picked that one up right away, first of all, because it's an Atlus flagship series, if you hadn't caught onto that. I think, to be honest, that it got leaked earlier than Atlus had hoped. I think the intent was to announce it next week.
Titles that Atlus is likely to pick up immediately and say, "We're publishing this":
Shin Megami Tensei (Especially if it's Persona. Devil Summoner 2 was an odd case, however.)
Trauma Center
Most Sting titles
More or less, Trauma Team/HOSPITAL defies the suggestion system. It would have been published by Atlus even if there was a "Hell no, Atlus, DO NOT publish this game" topic. I mean, there wasn't, and I'm all over Trauma Team. That's something I've been waiting for for a while. :3 (Meaning: Day 1!)
I'm still hopeful on Super Robot Taisen. I'd be happy with OGs, even if they passed on OGG. However, I'd like both, for obvious reasons. However, with Super Robot Taisen, they must obtain the rights. When it's an Atlus game to begin with, Atlus USA can announce it the very moment Atlus Japan announces it if they want.
Zeta_Nova
06-01-2009, 05:05 AM
It'd be cool if they did both. As for your later comment, Atlus could definitely look into doing this series. Like how CAPCOM did with Tatsunoko.
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 07:44 AM
well umm quick question who's a good candidate to bo the voices of Roar ,Emmy & Dark Brain (i sure hope they use Mina Mina As Dark Brains Voice I dont know if that'll work out)
Well I have a list of both Roar and Emmy on my dub thread but I'll post an improved version here. Because Compatible Kaiser is the spiritual successor of Gravion I want to give dub voices from that anime. For Fighter Roar It will be either Chris Patton (Eiji Shigure) or Greg Ayres (Toga Tenkuji). For Fighter Emmy it will be either Luci Christian (Luna Gusuku) or Jessica Boone (Eina). I have a video clip here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2N88D3OGBk&feature=related) of Gravion to show the voices that I posted and to show why I say it is a predecessor of Compatible Kaiser. This is also how I got the VA for Ingram Prisken. His VA (Jason Douglas) is in this as Klein Sandman. As for Dark Brain, I am unsure who would make a good VA for him. (as I am for Neu Regisseur) The only one I can think can pull it of surprisingly is Tim Curry, I can imagine him voicing this giant menace.
Probably $39 or $49 (if it gets packed with Original Generations Gaiden).
It will most likely be 39.99 and I have decided after debating it a little that it will most likely be one disc. That one disc I am talking about it 2.5 for this contains OG and OGG plus extras. (although I am still a little unsure about it) The only way if it gets a higher price as if they make a collector set of it.
I hear that Daren. Let's keep our fingers crossed. But as for the game. How many people can you recruit?
By recruit do you mean the characters/robots you get or the number of units you could put in a mission? Well I do know that for the gba one you could have a maximum of 20 characters in a mission depending on what mission you're on. Quick question, have you played OG1 and 2 for the gba yet?
We are in day one of E3, can't wait to start hearing the announcements. And for off-topic: who would win in a fight: Dark Brain or Neo Granzon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t_dsuTvJ8A)?
sdragon21
06-01-2009, 12:14 PM
I know how that battle ends, and it aint pretty...
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 12:21 PM
And boom goes the universe!
Zeta_Nova
06-01-2009, 12:24 PM
No, well. Not in a long while.
sdragon21
06-01-2009, 12:25 PM
A little less than 24 hours to go.
Please Almighty Gods of Atlus, let this game be announcend, and please don't let's this thread and 2 years of asking be for naught.
Super Robot Fan
06-01-2009, 03:08 PM
yes lets all pray for this game's announcement.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 03:13 PM
ooh missed that one , Tim Curry, but in the jpnese Voice of Dark Brain Sounds sorta like A Demonic Computerized Voice, As For OG?OG2 Yes I own both of 'em And outta my own Crazy twisted Idea But Think R.Lee Eremy Might be Good Voice Actor Addition in this OGs , Just to laugh about...........:
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 03:14 PM
I Feel ya Brudda.(sniff)
sdragon21
06-01-2009, 03:27 PM
if this is one of the announced games tommorow, a little piece inside of me can finally rest easy after 2 long years... Then that little piece will rush straight to gamestop after work wednesday and put his money down on the game. :seesaw:
Takara_Kitsune
06-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Well, I suppose no matter what happens, I'll be keeping an eye on things. Do we know when precisely Atlus will make any announcements?
At least for now, I have the distraction of SRT: K and MX Portable. (I didn't even expect them until Friday! ^^; ) So I'll keep myself distracted. :3 (And K so far is confusing, since I thought it was all post-2000 anime in here, but it has Mazinger-Z. Oh well, no arguments here! :3)
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 03:41 PM
Yea! ROCKET PAUUNCHHI !!! but yea Im al ready have my self ready to pre order.
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 04:21 PM
If this is an expected annoucement, when exactly? If not at the Sony Conference tomorrow, maybe perhaps during the day after?
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 04:29 PM
ooh missed that one , Tim Curry, but in the jpnese Voice of Dark Brain Sounds sorta like A Demonic Computerized Voice, As For OG?OG2 Yes I own both of 'em And outta my own Crazy twisted Idea But Think R.Lee Eremy Might be Good Voice Actor Addition in this OGs , Just to laugh about...........:
I thought about that too, Tim Curry once did a similar roll in the 90's. It was something I used to watch. Get ready for a nostalgia rush here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUps5eyrSw&feature=related), here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9h9jqMnOeA&feature=related) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDAoPoYEbIU&feature=related)!
And by the way the question on the gba games was for Zeta_Nova. He asked a few questions that made wander if he played the gba og1 & 2.
if this is one of the announced games tommorow, a little piece inside of me can finally rest easy after 2 long years... Then that little piece will rush straight to gamestop after work wednesday and put his money down on the game. :seesaw:
Damn, has it been two years since this treads been around? You have been strong with this when many gave up on it. I'm sure that it will get announced either before or after E3. Lets' just say that in a way this will become legendary when it is announced soon. With EF’s release I am sure they are getting ready to bring this here.
Well, I suppose no matter what happens, I'll be keeping an eye on things. Do we know when precisely Atlus will make any announcements?
At least for now, I have the distraction of SRT: K and MX Portable. (I didn't even expect them until Friday! ^^; ) So I'll keep myself distracted. :3 (And K so far is confusing, since I thought it was all post-2000 anime in here, but it has Mazinger-Z. Oh well, no arguments here! :3)
It has been said by Onion of Mystery that it will probably be tomorrow (witch sucks because I got to stay a few more hours at my job) don't know if that will change.
As far as being confused with why good ol Mazinger-Z is in there. Well if you go back on you're history, Mazinger-Z is the only robot to be in almost every SRW game ever made, He is the ryu of SRW.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 04:36 PM
Sooy bout the gba question, did'nt know,
LordGeo
06-01-2009, 04:41 PM
If this is an expected annoucement, when exactly? If not at the Sony Conference tomorrow, maybe perhaps during the day after?
Sony will probably never talk about an Atlus title at an E3 press conference, unless a Shin Megami Tensei title reached God of War levels of sales.
Anyway, Atlus will reveal the mystery titles tomorrow, most likely just by showing them off alongside the confirmed titles. SRT OGs is not "confirmed" per se, but has been highly wanted for years and the recent release of SRT OG Saga Endless Frontier has very much given us more hope.
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 04:46 PM
Sooy bout the gba question, did'nt know,
Don't worry about it, and one more nostalgia rush (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4TxDRazwk&feature=related) vid for you on Dark Brain's VA..........OH by the why I forgot to add in Dark Brain Vs Neo Granzon; whoever wins, the universe is DOOM! DOOM DOOM! (I’m going sing the doom song now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vtFRsBieA)) :D
Takara_Kitsune
06-01-2009, 04:53 PM
It has been said by Onion of Mystery that it will probably be tomorrow (witch sucks because I got to stay a few more hours at my job) don't know if that will change.
As far as being confused with why good ol Mazinger-Z is in there. Well if you go back on you're history, Mazinger-Z is the only robot to be in almost every SRW game ever made, He is the ryu of SRW.
Ah, alright, then. :3 Thank you again as always, Tatsuya. ^^
And, thank you for knowing why Mazinger-Z is in there. I actually wouldn't have known that bit of info. I'm working on learning as much as I can about the various series involved, because I'd like to help out at the super robot wiki (http://superrobotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page). I was a bit taken aback by the clearly "not modern" style of Mazinger-Z, and had to ask a friend of mine who's a bit of a classic anime buff when it was from.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 05:00 PM
Just thinking of Granzon in ANY Form Sends chills down my back:o
Now picture this Katina Tarask W/ The Gunnys VO. that beeen on my mind for the longest time..
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 05:10 PM
Gunnys VO? Please elaborate on that because for a VA for Katina Tarask my pick is Lisa Ortiz.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 05:14 PM
Voice Over,Gunny(short for Gunnery Sgt.) Is R.Lee Eremy its just That Katina just got his personality(it's suppoused to seem strange with that voice comedy wise) a blooper sorta thing
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 06:12 PM
If this is an expected annoucement, when exactly? If not at the Sony Conference tomorrow, maybe perhaps during the day after?
Sony will probably never talk about an Atlus title at an E3 press conference, unless a Shin Megami Tensei title reached God of War levels of sales.
Anyway, Atlus will reveal the mystery titles tomorrow, most likely just by showing them off alongside the confirmed titles. SRT OGs is not "confirmed" per se, but has been highly wanted for years and the recent release of SRT OG Saga Endless Frontier has very much given us more hope.
Tomorrow? Did Atlus actually said they would do that on the 2nd?
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 06:21 PM
Endless Frontier should probably help ,by the way how many copies have been sold ,Numbers help.:D
LordGeo
06-01-2009, 06:22 PM
Anyway, Atlus will reveal the mystery titles tomorrow, most likely just by showing them off alongside the confirmed titles. SRT OGs is not "confirmed" per se, but has been highly wanted for years and the recent release of SRT OG Saga Endless Frontier has very much given us more hope.
Tomorrow? Did Atlus actually said they would do that on the 2nd?
Well, not on this forum but an e-mail sent to suscribers titled "Atlus + E3 + WIN" said that all will be revealed on June 2, which is tomorrow. Considering that tomorrow will be when the booths fully open it makes sense to reveal them then.
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 06:23 PM
If this is an expected annoucement, when exactly? If not at the Sony Conference tomorrow, maybe perhaps during the day after?
Sony will probably never talk about an Atlus title at an E3 press conference, unless a Shin Megami Tensei title reached God of War levels of sales.
Anyway, Atlus will reveal the mystery titles tomorrow, most likely just by showing them off alongside the confirmed titles. SRT OGs is not "confirmed" per se, but has been highly wanted for years and the recent release of SRT OG Saga Endless Frontier has very much given us more hope.
Tomorrow? Did Atlus actually said they would do that on the 2nd?
The only thing we know is what is said here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118340#post118340) today.
Voice Over,Gunny(short for Gunnery Sgt.) Is R.Lee Eremy its just That Katina just got his personality(it's suppoused to seem strange with that voice comedy wise) a blooper sorta thing
Oh that sergeant guy (http://www.rleeermey.com/). That might be funny (and kind of cute) for katina to do that, but more the reverse; Katina in the sergeant uniform talking like R.Lee Eremy(Drop an give me 50 Russel!) For me I have been called it VA for voice actor" I could just say dub but I want it to sound professional. Different strokes for different folks.
I Hope I can find some time at work tomorrow
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 06:44 PM
well pro is the way to go, oh Yous said Mazinger Was the Ryu of SRW Than Who would Dragonar ,Layzner,& L.Gaim Be like?
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 06:45 PM
Awesome-sauce :) Just need to find a distraction until the live conferences tomorrow.
Ya know, since we're loosely on the topic of dubs, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Crispen Freeman as a VO candidate.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 07:01 PM
What about Albero Est & Lorenzo De Montiago? Im jealous of both their Mechs.. so Sweetdiculous
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 07:14 PM
well pro is the way to go, oh Yous said Mazinger Was the Ryu of SRW Than Who would Dragonar ,Layzner,& L.Gaim Be like?
Not sure because I'm not that experienced with either. I only said that because Mazinger Z is literally in just about every SRW game. The Ken of SRW would be Getter Robo.
Awesome-sauce :) Just need to find a distraction unto the live conferences tomorrow.
Ya know, since we're loosely on the topic of dubs, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Crispen Freeman as a VO candidate.
Well if you looked at my dub thread (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3133) than the roll I gave Crispen Freeman is non other than Mr.TROMBE!!! himself "Elzam V. Branstein" (Ratsel Feinschmecker in OG2) The reason I stopped when it came to him is as I said, I am not sure if him or Steven Blum is available due to the whole union issue.
And as for the two MX ones, I have yet to find a good dub for them, but in my thread you can see Albero Est and Hugo Medio under the MX list.
Be sure to check it out; and on that imagine JYB saying "Sweetdiculous" as Ryusei.
Zeta_Nova
06-01-2009, 07:20 PM
What about mech otaku; Ryusei? Personally, either Jason Spisak or Johnny Yong Bosch would fit perfect?
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 07:29 PM
what about using The cast who Did Dunbine or Fist of the North Star . might find some canidates
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 07:58 PM
What about mech otaku; Ryusei? Personally, either Jason Spisak or Johnny Yong Bosch would fit perfect?
Jason Spisak's a good pick though sounds a little too young for the roll to me. Last thing I heard him do was Geo Stelar from Mega Man Star Force.
what about using The cast who Did Dunbine or Fist of the North Star . might find some canidates
Not sure about Fist of the North Star, but I have some VA's from Dunbine. Most notebly Show Zama's VA "Jay Hickman" will voice Grungust pilot (and playboy) Irm Kazahara.
Zeta_Nova
06-01-2009, 08:02 PM
Also the SO4 cast? Which was about 100% of the whole FUNimation in house actors.
- Travis Willingham
- Greg Ayres etc...
Hear they do a cool job. And that Funimation seems to do their homework when picking the perfect VA for that character. As compared to Bandai or Viz, where it's more random.
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 08:15 PM
What about Andrew Philpot?
Tatsuya Suou
06-01-2009, 08:30 PM
Also the SO4 cast? Which was about 100% of the whole FUNimation in house actors.
- Travis Willingham
- Greg Ayres etc...
Hear they do a cool job. And that Funimation seems to do their homework when picking the perfect VA for that character. As compared to Bandai or Viz, where it's more random.
Bandai of old did good job when it came too dubs, the newer Bandai is a little shaky but still good. As of now Funimation is only goring by gaining more from ADV, and thus getting more VA's from them. Just take a look at the VA list for Evangelion 1.0 (http://www.mania.com/evangelion-10-cast-announced_article_115253.html) to see for you're self.
And as far as random VA's you are thinking about, Steel Greyfalke; I would make a list of the VA's and the characters in OG a who would voice who like I did in my thread as show here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3133). See you tomorrow.....
Zeta_Nova
06-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Well, it's almost time for Atlus to reveal what they got in store. We'll know by then if they truly have this as one of their suprise games along with their confirmed games.
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
I honestly cannot imagine anything else they could imagine or bring over from Japan. Perhaps thats just wishful thinking?
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Cant wait either So im praying that our Ideals our Supported For the Long Running Traditon That is Super Robot Taisen (& Sweetdiculous Is still part of my Vocabulary)
SickleCellAnemia
06-01-2009, 10:47 PM
I cant wait eithar I SO HOPE ATLUS ANNOUNCES THIS TITLE!!!!! ^_^
Steel Greyfalke
06-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Does anyone How well Endless Frontier Sold in the U.S?
Urvin1
06-01-2009, 11:19 PM
Does anyone How well Endless Frontier Sold in the U.S?
Not exact, but by VGchartz's numbers, it sold around 20K by its 4th week. And yes, that is a whole lot better than the two OG GBA games.
Takara_Kitsune
06-02-2009, 12:40 AM
I have to say this... but I feel that we SRT fans are quite vigilant, aren't we? :P
I'm online almost all hours of the day anyway, and I think there's been new posts at least every hour since Sunday evening. ^^; I only hope we hear something after all of this waiting. ^^;
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 02:37 AM
Got that right; as sdragon21 said, we have been whaiting for two years for this. I got to go to work now, but I hope to get a break in between.
sdragon21
06-02-2009, 03:30 AM
Day 1 of e3 begins!!!
In just a few short hours, we will know wether or not this will be one of atlus's e3 announcements.
We have to,no, we must keep faith alive!!!
2 years of asking hopefully will bring this loved series to the states at long last!!!
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 04:49 AM
Don't you mean Day 2 :)?
On today on G4
- NINTENDO
- SONY
Here's also hoping that they come through with this.
sdragon21
06-02-2009, 07:14 AM
oops,sorry.
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 07:22 AM
Anyways, when does ATLUS go live? Because, in a lil' bit we'll be having the NINTENDO press con.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 07:45 AM
(Turns those few hours weren’t as long as I thought. Got caught in the rain midway from break but its cool cause now I can check this out till one.)
I have till this afternoon to go back to work, so I'll be here for the next few hours. And were at page 49:D I agree that on Urvin1 last post that Endless Frontier sold much better than the gba games. And I am beating the game today and I can say for sure that this takes place after OG 2. Hope atlus stats there announcement soon, same with capcom. (still waiting to hear about mystery game 2. For now I'll check out the Nintendo press conference.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 08:32 AM
Question...Did Atlus announce Shiren the Wanderer for the Wii earlier? If not...well we got it now. : /
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 08:36 AM
Were have you heard it from? I have been monitoring their twitter (http://twitter.com/atlususa) for a while now and haven't heard of anything yet.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 08:43 AM
Were have you heard it from? I have been monitoring their twitter (http://twitter.com/atlususa) for a while now and haven't heard of anything yet.
Been hoverirng on Kotaku and Destructoid.
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-09-atlus-announces-shiren-the-wanderer-for-the-wii-134464.phtml
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 08:47 AM
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out. (Damn only an hour letf before my breaks over)
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 09:40 AM
hours up! I'll see you a little later....
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 11:39 AM
And another... :/
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-09-atlus-announces-101-in-1-party-megamix-for-wii-134516.phtml
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 11:44 AM
Well, my fingers're still crossed and hoping that the next announcement is SR Taisen OG
Aussenseiter6001
06-02-2009, 12:32 PM
Somebody is going to Gespy Kick Atlus' booth down if they don't announce something soon.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 12:49 PM
Those two games better not be the only secrets they were going to announce. Shiren I can understand, but who cares about the other game?! I like to think they are saving the best for last.
Don't disappoint us Atlus.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 12:51 PM
Back from work! :) Ho oh, Manly Biceps is teasing us so much over here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118478#post118478), but I know what he and Rednusander got up their sleeves. Hm hm hm. Anyway; So far the other announcement are pretty good. Were getting a new Metroid by Team ninja of all people and I saw the E3 Trailer of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. Next up is Sony, so much to take while getting back. I know that we will get an answer soon.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Just finished watching the Sony conference. IT was better then I expected...no Z.O.E. 3 though >.> Got FF13 with english VOs and FF14...which I do not care about
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 01:04 PM
I didn’t expect ZOE 3 (what is two MGS games announced instead) to be announced. I have to check back later on FF XIII later on how the VA's sound like.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 01:10 PM
I can tell you that it didn't sound like crap :) But for what reason is S-E crafting FF14 in the same steps as 11? D:
Decept
06-02-2009, 01:14 PM
MGS: Peace Walker's trailer was amazing.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 01:23 PM
OK I am going to say this now; even though I am much of a fan of MGS as anyone else, I really want to see another Z.O.E game. The second was so great and left us wanting more. But I guess the demand isn't as high as the next MGS game. By the way this look, we will most likely see Z.O.E in the next SRW game before a third game. It will look kind of like this awesome fan work here (http://hmq.pos.to/gallery/img/anubis/anubis_swf.html). :D
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 02:17 PM
Mow if we can combine a totalnuber of how much OG/OG2/OGEF sold combined We should get a an idea of its likelyhood in the U.S , via Production costs
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 02:23 PM
Well when it comes down to it, EF helped a lot in sales. We just have to see, we should at least get a start answer this time around.
sdragon21
06-02-2009, 03:32 PM
Just a little longer guys, hang in there.,.
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 03:33 PM
Well im Gonna celebrate if Something is announced:D
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Well it looks like we have pictures here (http://www.joystiq.com/photos/e3-2009-west-hall-show-floor/2052624/) and here (http://www.joystiq.com/photos/e3-2009-west-hall-show-floor/2052617/) on atlus booth and the only thing that is new is a game known as Trine. So for now it is unknown but I will still give out hope. If others give up on this, I won't; I know that it will be announce this week or after E3. Because this is my 200h post I wanted to start a new thread I was think about but with all the E3 craziness, it will most likely be overlooked. So instead I will post an awesome (and hilarious) SRX vs ATX.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3936/akibakko118889974761497.jpg
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 04:05 PM
Thanks dude. Well, at least there's still a few who still believe that this'll cross over to the pacific.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 04:20 PM
Nice picture. :/ Exactly how many days are left in E3 and has Atlus fired off all of their secret games for this event?
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Dontcha mean Sweetdiculously Hilarious
Super Robot Fan
06-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Just curious but when is Atlus suppose to announce their E3 titles?
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 05:06 PM
@Steel; We've only got Wednesday and Thursday. Which tomorrow, SQUARE ENIX announces their games.
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Hmmm Square Enix , Hope they Bring Somethin Very Different,anyway if OG is not announced & is set for a later release We can take it:grouphug: , but yea i'm gettin anxious too
Takara_Kitsune
06-02-2009, 05:53 PM
I'm sorry to say my hope is wavering a little, Tatsuya. ^^; I do still hope we will get SRT: OGs, but...
... You know what? I didn't sleep last night. That'd explain why my hope is wavering. ^^; I watched that video of the whole damn Microsoft press conference. They really had to make that nearly 2 hours, didn't they? -_-; And go figure the Nintendo one was the best one IMO. :P (GOLDEN SUN DS!)
And Atlus still has a good list of games to keep an eye on. Shiren the Wanderer, Trauma Team, Devil Survivor, Persona PSP... and still excited about Class of Heroes even if everyone I've spoken to about it insists I will hate it. -_-;
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 06:04 PM
Nah my hope isnt fading it,s just that i was thinking About this thread & how this is almost similar like Bian Zoldark's Speech. :D
Takara_Kitsune
06-02-2009, 06:26 PM
I... um... think this is a no-go.
http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721&page=3
All of the titles have been figured out. This wasn't one of them.
It could happen post-E3, but I wouldn't count on it. Oh well...
Steel Greyfalke
06-02-2009, 06:30 PM
like i said we wait & then strike when the timing is just right.
Super Robot Fan
06-02-2009, 06:41 PM
There is still a chance that this could be released after E3, so I will not lose hope.
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Hope you guys're right. Because after this month's over, I'm gettin' a PS3.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 07:02 PM
I'm sorry to say my hope is wavering a little, Tatsuya. ^^; I do still hope we will get SRT: OGs, but...
... You know what? I didn't sleep last night. That'd explain why my hope is wavering. ^^; I watched that video of the whole damn Microsoft press conference. They really had to make that nearly 2 hours, didn't they? -_-; And go figure the Nintendo one was the best one IMO. :P (GOLDEN SUN DS!)
And Atlus still has a good list of games to keep an eye on. Shiren the Wanderer, Trauma Team, Devil Survivor, Persona PSP... and still excited about Class of Heroes even if everyone I've spoken to about it insists I will hate it. -_-;
Hey man you're lucky you could see the whole press conference. I had to go to work and only had a few hours in between breaks. So for me, trying to get all the updates an news is difficult. Although Nintendo did much better than last year, thank god.
I know atlus has some good games on the line already (and more to come even after E3) I just wanted to put an end to the waiting. Look it's all right to be unsure if it will happen, but as long atlus hasn't said anything about it I will still give them the benefit of the doubt. After all they released Endless Frontier for a reason, and I finally beat it today.
I... um... think this is a no-go.
http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721&page=3
All of the titles have been figured out. This wasn't one of them.
It could happen post-E3, but I wouldn't count on it. Oh well...
It is the same thing I posted before and as I said the only new game at their booth was Trine. Like I said as long as atlus say, "they have no plans to release it" then I will keep strong. (foolish I know) But I will let you in on a little secret. A week before E3, Rednusander and Manly Biceps have been viewing this thread from time to time. Now that could mean anything, but since it was after EF was around for a month I have see at least one of them viewing this thread. So lets just wait a little longer. (although it is quite bold of you to ask directly, wouldn’t hurt right?) Keep in mind there is still that "spencer....spencer..." reply in that one interview. Like it or not they will have to come up with an answer this year. Whether it is at E3 or after is still up in the air.
And on a side note: we finally reached 50 pages!:D .. I know having this game announced is more important, but this will go down in this forums history as the one longest thread ever.
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 07:17 PM
Yeah, this alone is proof that you guys no doubt want this other than those promising requested titles.
Super Robot Fan
06-02-2009, 07:17 PM
@Zeta_Nova, are you getting the newer models of PS3, cuz I heard they don't have backwards compatibility with PS2 games anymore.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 07:28 PM
Yeah, this alone is proof that you guys no doubt want this other than those promising requested titles.
This is true Zeta_Nova. 50 pages and 30,000+ views. (by users or guest) As of now, unless Sony says’s otherwise. All PS3 that have full backwards compatibility (ie. Play ps1 and ps2 games) are only in the 80 gigs and not the bran new ones. The 80 gigs can only play 80% of ps2 games due to it being on emulators. So Zeta_Nova, If you can, I would find a 60 gig like I did for full backwards compatibility. (even though they are hard to come by) But be warned, even the ps3 can break down. Mine is still in repairs and am waiting for when it is done.
Super Robot Fan
06-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Tatsuya Suou why did your PS3 break down I am curious to this and where did you go to repair it?
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 07:57 PM
I don't know if this is a rule violation but my ps3 has a video issue and has lights blanking the screen while the game turns on. I live in LI so there is a store that was request by someone I know at my local gamestop. Right now I have been waiting two weeks for results but I should be expecting it by the weekend.
Oh.. On another side note, it looks like I found out what Capcoms mystery game 2 is. Resident Evil on the psp (http://kotaku.com/5276528/oh-yeah-psp-getting-its-own-resident-evil).:( Look don't get me wrong, I like RE but like I said on MGS, not only was it unnecessary but a game that I know many people wanted (like me) is Megaman legends 3. Like MGS We already have more than enough of the game. Why they said it was a game we all waited for is beyond me. ...But that is enough ranting on my part.
Super Robot Fan
06-02-2009, 08:13 PM
Much appreciated, as I hope I don't have to repair my PS3 yet and I am surprised about how Fate Unlimited Code is coming to the US.
But to stay on topic, isn't it rumored that the PS2 will die or something like that by the end of this year? Cuz I hope not I really don't want to import this.
Tatsuya Suou
06-02-2009, 08:30 PM
Not quite because last I checked on the matter, the ps2 is out selling the ps3 as of late. So if it were to die out then it will most likely next year.
Anyway I'll see you guy's tomorrow.
Urvin1
06-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Time to find a distraction, it'll be awhile before any of the good games come our way and I need something to pass the time until E3 runs its course.
Zeta_Nova
06-02-2009, 09:28 PM
*sighs* I knew it the game didn't make it by this E3. This' only the announcement I've been waiting to hear from ATLUS. But to no avail. And to be honest, I really didn't care much for those other announced games. Well, SMT: DS is an exception and Demon's Souls (since I'm now lookin' into getting a PS3). Though, I'm more interested in these anime mech-based combat that has your characters on a grid (SRPG style).
I'm sorry, but I don't think this was a "Atlus+E3=Win" for me. Not when this game wasn't included into the mix of Atlus E3 announcements of today.
Daren
06-02-2009, 11:15 PM
I know what you mean Zeta.
Takara_Kitsune
06-02-2009, 11:17 PM
Zeta, I agree with you. I'm super bummed. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with some of the other announcements, but... I admit, my main interest here was Super Robot Taisen. It could still happen, but at this point I'm feeling doubtful. I mean... if you look at the list of games Atlus announced, it's steering away from PS2... meaning they're probably done with it.
Overall, my interests in what was shown: SMT: Devil Survivor, Persona PSP, and Trauma Team. Shiren is interesting, and I know a lot of people want that. I'll probably try it when it's released.
This E3 was (I guess 'is' since it's not over yet) is definitely better than last years... but I admit, I got hyped for things that didn't happen... which I think is worse than anticipation with no particular focus. I'm just slightly depressed that we won't see SRT: OGs or OGG. I suppose I'd best start figuring out how to import it... I guess I'll get a bunch of Japanese PS2 games and get a Japanese PS2. May as well at this point... it does actually meet the formula for buying a console that I go by... which is "Total Value of games > = Total value of console". I've surpassed that point... and I could get SRT Z. And Tales of Destiny Director's Cut while I'm at it... I guess that's my bright side. Oh well...
sdragon21
06-03-2009, 04:48 AM
I have a better chance of getting a roundhouse kick to the head by Chuck Norris than Atlus announcing this.
Long story short: Atlus really let the SRT fans down.
Zeta_Nova
06-03-2009, 05:19 AM
I understand how you want these games ATLUS. But overall you let me down on the most interesting, "looking forward to" game. That is; Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations and Original Generations: Gaiden. I've been really let down.
Thus, I have no choice. But to shoot for a PS3.
Latooni11
06-03-2009, 07:09 AM
Oh come on guys, don't lose hope.
If we lose hope, that also shows Atlus that we've lost interest. And the only possible way for this game to ever get a release, is to keep the interest in this game high.
PS2 is not dead yet, the fact that Devil Summoner 2 was released not that long ago is proof of that. Keep your hopes up.
Zeta_Nova
06-03-2009, 08:33 AM
I suppose. Though, for me. It doesn't matter anymore. I'm gonna trade PS2 for the PS3 into GameStop. And I wasn't a fan of the SMT: Raidou vs K.A game to begin with. The only one I'm interested is the one on DS, SMT: DS.
Tatsuya Suou
06-03-2009, 08:43 AM
I got bad news on my part; turns out that my PS3 is non-reparable. I called to find out about the status of it and I am going at lest get it back from the repair shop. (upset I still have to pay 35$ for service) So as of now I have no playstion and only my Wii to keep me company. Though it isn't the first time I was without a playsiton, replacing this one is more of a problem. Not only do I need to find a now discounted 60 gig to have full backwards compatibility (witch alone will cost me 300$ or more) but I will have to find a way to get my data from my HD by either switching it with a new one or some other way.
So I'm kind of down on that; I try to keep my sprits up for all who waited two years for the game, but it's going be difficult. I know that the game would most likely not be announced at E3, I accepted that. But now I have to make some choices. And there is the fact that even if I buy a new ps3 (60 gig or otherwise) it still won't play imports. (other than ps3)
But when it comes to this game, I honestly think the PS2 will not die by this year, least of all in SRT. Like the dreamcast before it, the PS2 will have many games made even after it is replaced with a new model. Take SRW Z for instance; this game was released last year when PS3 had at least two years around. Despite that, SRW Z was made for the PS2 and even though it is a hunch, I can say for sure that the next SRW game to be announce for consoles will be for the PS2. So if such a thing as OG 3 or EF 2 were to be announced it would most likely be on the PS2. As far as I know, Banpresto rarely made any games for the PS3 as of yet.
I still fell that this will be announced soon, but right now my sprits are low. I do know that Endless Frontier was localized in order to get interest back to the series, but I believe now is the time for atlus to say once and for all If they will bring this game here or not. No more silence, no more assumptions and no more cryptic responses. ( I believe we should at lest get a strait answer from that interview) I don't want this 50 page thread that spans of two years to be wasted. So for now I'll be posting less here unless needed, my heart is out to those who waited much longer than me.
I hope I can find some luck on my next playsiton. So I see you all for now.
Zeta_Nova
06-03-2009, 09:50 AM
No more silence, no more assumptions and no more cryptic responses. ( I believe we should at lest get a straight answer from that interview) I don't want this 50 page thread that spans of two years to be wasted
Yeah guys, this' gone long enough. Even Square Enix and Nintendo told the press and fans right out what we'd be getting from their line up. Be it suprise or none suprise. If you want to give back to the fans. It's best to tell it straight out rather than hide your secrets of upcoming game announcements.
Purgeon
06-03-2009, 09:52 AM
I suppose. Though, for me. It doesn't matter anymore. I'm gonna trade PS2 for the PS3 into GameStop. And I wasn't a fan of the SMT: Raidou vs K.A game to begin with. The only one I'm interested is the one on DS, SMT: DS.
Just putting this out there, think about that decision. You wont get much for it. A ps3 is a wonderful system but your chances of getting a backwards compatible system are very low and they cost more than a brand new system these days. Hold on to your ps2 man, it has so many great games. Besides, the minute you do trade it in, theyll release super robot wars and youll have to pay between 60 and 100 for a another ps2. Your only gonna get 30 for it max so hold on to it. Get the ps3 and have the option of both systems. Thats just my advice though.
Crimson Cloud
06-03-2009, 10:50 AM
Personally I was looking forward to Microsoft conference as I have Xbox360 so SRT not being translated is a disappointing news, but I'll live through it. Devil Summoner doesn't interest me so only game I'll play till' I sell my ps2 is Mana Khemia 2. Oh and Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age and Alan Wake kinda pumped me up so I'm not gonna mourn that much if SRT:OG doesn't hit the shelves. Maybe a bit arrogant but it's really their loss. :D
sdragon21
06-03-2009, 12:05 PM
you guys are gonna hate this:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/03/so-about-super-robot-taisen-original-generations/
I guess it's time to go ask Xseed. Thanks for nothing, Atlus.
Crimson Cloud
06-03-2009, 12:12 PM
you guys are gonna hate this:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/03/so-about-super-robot-taisen-original-generations/
I guess it's time to go ask Xseed. Thanks for nothing, Atlus.
Hmm, like I said, it's their loss. I guess I'll just start learning Japanese or wait for someone else to do the translation. The only thing that this place will hold me is Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series, but if the next-gen is PS3 exclusive, then I'm out of here.
P.S. You never know, maybe they will announce at the very end of E3 as a surprise :p
sdragon21
06-03-2009, 12:21 PM
you guys are gonna hate this:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/03/so-about-super-robot-taisen-original-generations/
I guess it's time to go ask Xseed. Thanks for nothing, Atlus.
Hmm, like I said, it's their loss. I guess I'll just start learning Japanese or wait for someone else to do the translation. The only thing that this place will hold me is Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series, but if the next-gen is PS3 exclusive, then I'm out of here.
P.S. You never know, maybe they will announce at the very end of E3 as a surprise :p
I'll wait till friday. If we hear nothing by then, everyone who's been posting on this thread should e-mail xseed and let them know that you want to see this game in the US. Like you said Crimson Cloud, Atlus's lost is someone else's gain.
Sagadego
06-03-2009, 12:40 PM
RIP Atlus here comes the pitchforks and the torches
Zeta_Nova
06-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Sorry to hear that Atlus.
pktazn
06-03-2009, 02:26 PM
I support this thread :]
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