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Raidou11
08-06-2008, 03:31 PM
Then don't defend something you have no clue about...

Just because I haven't played the game is NOT the same damn thing as being clueless about it. More over, why are you so angry that people actually like playing Magna Carta? :shock:

Perhaps, that is the definition of ignorance.

System_Error
08-06-2008, 03:36 PM
.... I have played Magna Carta & I found it decent. I was just saying don't defend #### you haven't personally played. Screenshots + Video's do not = experience.

Raidou11
08-06-2008, 03:40 PM
.... I have played Magna Carta & I found it decent. I was just saying don't defend #### you haven't personally played. Screenshots + Video's do not = experience.

Oh okay, perhaps I am mistaken. Yes, you are correct. It is actually difficult to judge a game by watching the promo and trailers. My bad for being rude.

TheMagicHat
08-06-2008, 10:30 PM
Just because I haven't played the game is NOT the same damn thing as being clueless about it. More over, why are you so angry that people actually like playing Magna Carta? :shock:

Probably for the same reason they're so angry that people actually like playing SRT.

Then again, I couldn't get past the first hour of Magna Carta yet I love the hell out of SRT. Go figure.

randar23rhenn
08-06-2008, 11:10 PM
I thought Magna Carta was pretty neat once you got past the fact that you could easily dominate everything by just using one character and the others as meat shields.... and that you could only move one while enemies could move all... and the overly complex systems behind the battle system that could be ignored.. and the bad VA

but seriously i liked it. it had some really fun elements

cj iwakura
08-07-2008, 08:16 AM
I always found it strange that an RPG that Atlus were hyping as the most epic game ever(which definitely had the look for it) got such a terrible localization treatment.

The music and atmosphere were gorgeous. The voice acting, opening song, and combat make the game so much of a chore that I can only play it in spans of a few hours.

The part I'm at right now took me two hours to get through with Calintz. Three dungeons back to back to back.

Then the perspective shifts to another party, who have to do the exact same thing.

That was where I put the game on hiatus again.

Super Robot Fan
08-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Wow, this is a really long topic. I guess it looks like Atlus won't be localizing this. Thats too bad, I hope that maybe there will be a chance in the distant future it could be

:D

Olethros
08-12-2008, 12:09 PM
HEY VOODOO!!!!

This guy here stole your nickname! Weren't you the original super robot fan? :twisted:

Voodoo
08-12-2008, 12:39 PM
#### this game and the stupid ass series it came from.

unknown
08-12-2008, 01:05 PM
Finally played the GBA game for the first time today, pretty awesome game >_>

SRWplayer13
08-12-2008, 03:52 PM
I still think its a chance it will come. They will soon release Eternal Poison, a game that made by Banpresto and play similar to Super Robot Wars.

SRWplayer13
08-13-2008, 12:53 PM
I say that Atlus should give us a good reason why not to bring the game over. The game only have original characters, so it not a license problem. All they have to do is change the language to English and keep the Japanese voices. This is a great game we need to have over here in the US. And also there are many fans support this. So Atlus give us fans a solid Yes or No.

Sei
08-13-2008, 12:56 PM
^ They don't ever say no on anything. They can't as it might happen at some point somehow. I hope they are working on this, though.

SRWplayer13
08-13-2008, 01:05 PM
I hope you right Sei. It will be a great game for us. I already have OG 1 and 2 on the GBA and Alpha 3 on the PS2, so I hope they bring this one too.

Super Robot Fan
08-14-2008, 12:02 PM
I agree with u too Sei, I hope that this gets localized.

SRWplayer13
08-17-2008, 11:01 AM
I hope you see this Atlus. Each and everyday this forum grow in demand for this game. There is no issues for localized of Super Robot Wars OG, so we fans need an answer or aleast a sign that it is coming to the US.

Voodoo
08-17-2008, 11:06 AM
I hope you see this Atlus.
:roll:
There is no issues for localized of Super Robot Wars OG

How do you know?

so we fans need an answer or aleast a sign that it is coming to the US.

Not gonna happen unless they make an official announcement that its coming out.

System_Error
08-17-2008, 11:22 AM
I hope you see this Atlus. Each and everyday this forum grow in demand for this game. There is no issues for localized of Super Robot Wars OG, so we fans need an answer or aleast a sign that it is coming to the US.

English. Use it.

SRWplayer13
08-17-2008, 11:23 AM
Other Super Robot Wars have licensing problems to come to the US. But the OG series have only have original characters, so there is no licensing problem. That is why I think it don't have any kind of issues of coming.

System_Error
08-17-2008, 11:25 AM
Other Super Robot Wars have licensing problems to come to the US. But the OG series have only have original characters, so there is no licensing problem. That is why I think it don't have any kind of issues of coming.

Yea, but Atlus should work on ya know better games. (Elminage DS, or the Nocturne remake for example) SRT probably wont sell...

SRWplayer13
08-17-2008, 11:34 AM
If Atlus promote it good, I think it will be a great SRPG game that people will get in to.

Chronis
08-17-2008, 11:57 AM
I hope you see this Atlus.

Lol, that reminded me of

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h108/dependovirus/ignignokt.jpg
I hope you see this because I'm doing it as hard as I can.

Sei
08-17-2008, 01:35 PM
Other Super Robot Wars have licensing problems to come to the US. But the OG series have only have original characters, so there is no licensing problem. That is why I think it don't have any kind of issues of coming.

Yea, but Atlus should work on ya know better games. (Elminage DS, or the Nocturne remake for example) SRT probably wont sell...

I think that is down completely to individual preference. Plus, unless you have, you know, actually played Elminage, it is hard to believe that you can objectively say that it's a better game. Anyway, doesn't that game have it's own thread? I sorta wonder why it keeps coming up in this one.

For completion sake, I offer the Elminage famitsu review score, it isn't that good. Being the land of Wizardy, EO, etc, I would expect games like those rate higher than here as those are relatively untapped genres on the states, but I might be incorrect. I couldn't find many other reviews of it.

Elminage: Yami no Fujo to Kamigami no Yubiwa (PS2, Starfish): 6 / 7 / 6 / 7 - (26/40)

For comparison sake, the first Etrian oddisey scored as follows, Sekaiju no Meikyuu - 8/8/8/8 - (32/40), and the second, thus, Sekaiju no Meikyuu 2: Shoou no Seihai (NDS, Atlus): 9 / 9 / 8 / 8 - (34/40).

I completely support Nocturne, but doubt that that would require that much work, as the game is translated, and, even without knowing the extent of the additions, believe that those arent games known for the amount of text in them. Thus one wouldn't exclude the other.

At any rate, Atlus seems to bet on Srpgs a lot, so who knows. They might be working on it.

Other Super Robot Wars have licensing problems to come to the US. But the OG series have only have original characters, so there is no licensing problem. That is why I think it don't have any kind of issues of coming.

Well, there was a belief that Banpresto being bought out by Bandai would make translating their games impossible as Namco Bandai don't often allow other companies to translate their games, but the announcement of two of their games recently, I would hope that this is no longer an issue. (Eternal Poison and Ar Tonelico 2)

Who knows, Nisa might pick this up and Agarest Senki. I would be satisfied with that if it can't be Atlus.

System_Error
08-17-2008, 02:23 PM
Sei, I was just being an ass I wasn't 100% serious. I honestly wouldn't mind these coming out, just not my kind of thing. Not big on the whole Mech thing.

Sei
08-17-2008, 03:22 PM
Sei, I was just being an ass I wasn't 100% serious. I honestly wouldn't mind these coming out, just not my kind of thing. Not big on the whole Mech thing.

Ah. Sometimes I have trouble telling whether people are serious or not when it comes to SRT. Disregard then!.

Olethros
08-18-2008, 12:11 PM
^ LOL. It's cute how you defend this thread from it's would be attackers! :wink:

DamnedToBeFree
08-18-2008, 12:26 PM
I still have no idea what's going on in this thread.

Voodoo
08-18-2008, 12:28 PM
Yeah it is kinda cute.

Sei
08-18-2008, 12:45 PM
:oops:

TheMagicHat
08-18-2008, 09:34 PM
I still have no idea what's going on in this thread.
It's better that way, Believe me. :P

SRWplayer13
08-29-2008, 10:00 AM
Is anybody out there think it still a chance that Atlus will bring Super Robot Wars OG to the US? We do need more Super Robot Wars games over here. It would be nice to have OG and OG Gaiden. Bandai Visual did release the OVA and Divine Wars, the DVDs that base off the games. It wouldn't the right to have both GBA ver. and not the remake.

Sei
08-29-2008, 10:04 AM
It would be so great.

I think it's announcement might very well just be around the corner!. What with Banpresto games getting licensed left and right.

Constraint
08-29-2008, 12:41 PM
I don't think the Atlus Staff wanna embarass themselves screaming thier lungs like those japanese voice actors.

Other than that, my hope for this game to be released is lost.

Super Robot Fan
08-31-2008, 12:14 PM
Hopefully, that true and that this game does have a chance of getting localized. And maybe they might just leave the japanese voice if the Atlus staff doesnt want to scream like the japanese voices.

Voodoo
08-31-2008, 02:32 PM
How many different ways are you going to say you want this ####ing game?

Chronis
08-31-2008, 06:07 PM
The fact that this thread is over 700 posts but yet Atlus hasn't even peeped about even possibly bringing a SRT game over means.... it'll happen next Tuesday. M I RITE!?

Sei
08-31-2008, 06:50 PM
The fact that this thread is over 700 posts but yet Atlus hasn't even peeped about even possibly bringing a SRT game over means.... it'll happen next Tuesday. M I RITE!?

Announcement next tuesday confirmed!

Zachalmighty
08-31-2008, 07:59 PM
Atlus is failing to bring me my OVERTHETOPCRAZYSUPERROBOTGAME

SRWplayer13
09-01-2008, 06:13 AM
Is it true that we finally getting an announcement on the Super Robot Wars OG game?

Zachalmighty
09-01-2008, 09:11 AM
Is it true that we finally getting an announcement on the Super Robot Wars OG game?LOL

Sagadego
09-02-2008, 08:48 PM
i wish :cry:

Constraint
09-05-2008, 12:16 AM
Is it true that we finally getting an announcement on the Super Robot Wars OG game?

Atlus doesn't listen to it's fans.

Pixel
09-05-2008, 08:33 AM
^They do what they can, but they can't say yes to everything.

Onion of Mystery
09-05-2008, 09:16 AM
Is it true that we finally getting an announcement on the Super Robot Wars OG game?

Atlus doesn't listen to it's fans.

Sure we do. We just don't reply.

unknown
09-05-2008, 10:09 AM
NEXT TUESDAY ANNOUNCEMENT CONFIRMED?

SRWplayer13
09-05-2008, 11:20 AM
Is this announcement is for real or another joke? We don't need false announcement of the game we trying our best to get Atlus to get it localized! Alot of fans still have hope for this game, so we don't any false announcement about it. I won't give up untill we an official announcement or a reply about the Super Robot Wars OG game.

Onion of Mystery
09-05-2008, 11:37 AM
SRWplayer: Nobody, other than people who actually work for Atlus, are privy to the inner workings of the company. Nobody who works for the company is going to spoil the company's efforts by "pre-announcing" things before the official announcement. No-one here, aside from the admins and a few lurkers who don't want to be admins, works for Atlus. I think your sarcasm detector needs a tuneup.

"We are aware of the existence of this game" != "We are announcing our acquisition of the publishing rights."

SRWplayer13
09-05-2008, 12:09 PM
I'm sorry for the things I say in my last message. I know you and the people of Atlus are working hard on the games they bring to the US. It look like I just wait and see what going to happan then. What happan just happan I guss. And again I'm sorry.

rainking187
09-05-2008, 01:10 PM
SRWplayer: Nobody, other than people who actually work for Atlus, are privy to the inner workings of the company. Nobody who works for the company is going to spoil the company's efforts by "pre-announcing" things before the official announcement. No-one here, aside from the admins and a few lurkers who don't want to be admins, works for Atlus. I think your sarcasm detector needs a tuneup.

"We are aware of the existence of this game" != "We are announcing our acquisition of the publishing rights."

"!=" means super equals, right? ZOMG confirmed!

Just kidding. But just wondering, has any game recommendation thread ever gone on for this many pages before?

James Fiend
09-06-2008, 07:42 PM
We are announcing our acquisition of the publishing rights.
YES
ABOUT TIME

c-tez
09-06-2008, 08:39 PM
So does that mean the game is truly coming to the US?

SRWplayer13
09-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Only time will tell.

Zeether
09-08-2008, 10:29 PM
So this thread can stop being a joke thread?

Shunyata
09-12-2008, 12:17 AM
What the hell does the "acquisition of publishing rights" even mean????

LOL its just a way to calm the fans down......


LoCAliZE SuPeR ROBot WArs ORigiNAl GenteraTioN Por FAVOr!!!!

Purgeon
09-16-2008, 09:21 AM
Don't even waste your time thinking about it. Everyone on this board is a freaking joke. It's BS, this game is not coming out. Buy the jap PS2 and play it. Tis what I did. I cant understand Japanese but i sure had a blast playing it. This board should be shut down. :roll:

Onion of Mystery
09-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads these words that appear when I hit the keys on this little board thingy in front of me.

"!=" means "does not equal."

Shunyata
09-16-2008, 04:19 PM
Really this '!=" does not mean equal........ why dont you just say we are aware of the existence but we cant afford the rights or to keep up with our freakin website......

James Fiend
09-17-2008, 12:28 PM
Sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads these words that appear when I hit the keys on this little board thingy in front of me.

"!=" means "does not equal."Does this post mean there will be an artbook too?

Kakizaki
09-17-2008, 12:38 PM
Really this '!=" does not mean equal........ why dont you just say we are aware of the existence but we cant afford the rights or to keep up with our freakin website......

Wow.......

Sei
09-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads these words that appear when I hit the keys on this little board thingy in front of me.

"!=" means "does not equal."Does this post mean there will be an artbook too?

Omg I can't wait, I really like artbooks. Onion's made my day!

James Fiend
09-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads these words that appear when I hit the keys on this little board thingy in front of me.

"!=" means "does not equal."Does this post mean there will be an artbook too?

Omg I can't wait, I really like artbooks. Onion's made my day!I'm going to trace my favorite super robots and make stickers day oneeeee

Zeta_Nova
09-17-2008, 09:13 PM
This' indeed great news. I've been wanting to play this series, since you guys last localized the first two SRT's for GBA.

happysmiles!
09-18-2008, 08:36 PM
FTW! OMGZ omgzomgz!! atlus~ can you cast me as the voice for elzam? or zengar?? maybe both?!? OMG IM SOO HAPPY!!

I'm going to trace my favorite super robots and make stickers day oneeeee
you lyk sooo took my idea mister man! u(^o^)n

QBasic
09-18-2008, 08:48 PM
FTW! OMGZ omgzomgz!! atlus~ can you cast me as the voice for elzam? or zengar?? maybe both?!? OMG IM SOO HAPPY!!

I'm going to trace my favorite super robots and make stickers day oneeeee
you lyk sooo took my idea mister man! u(^o^)n
I DO hope this is a long standing member of this site making a joke account just to post that...

happysmiles!
09-18-2008, 09:08 PM
I DO hope this is a long standing member of this site making a joke account just to post that...
naaw im new! btw~ your avatar makes me giggle. is that wario??

Shunyata
09-18-2008, 09:43 PM
If happysmiles is cast as both elzam and zengar then atlus could you kindly let me tryout for Ingram, Rai, Ryusei, Aya and Archibald Grims please..... if at all let me be Aya.

James Fiend
09-19-2008, 03:00 AM
This' indeed great news. I've been wanting to play this series, since you guys last localized the first two SRT's for GBA.I can't believe this is catching on. I hope we get a reputable game site to report that Atlus has announced this title.

Zeether
09-19-2008, 06:52 PM
I DO hope this is a long standing member of this site making a joke account just to post that...
naaw im new! btw~ your avatar makes me giggle. is that wario??
Far from Wario. It's from some ####ty B-movie from Japan called Prince of Space. MST3K fans know it.

Hossaria
09-19-2008, 09:06 PM
I think I figured it all out. Atlus is waiting for the release of Original Generations Gaiden so as to bundle OGs + OG Gaiden in a deluxe box for NA.

That would probably be the best thing.....possibly ever.

Or maybe not...

Zeta_Nova
09-19-2008, 11:49 PM
This' indeed great news. I've been wanting to play this series, since you guys last localized the first two SRT's for GBA.I can't believe this is catching on. I hope we get a reputable game site to report that Atlus has announced this title.

heh, Knowing Atlus. This may be the case, because they like to outfit such game sites. Like they're doing with Persona 4, L.A 2 etc...

Zeether
09-20-2008, 07:25 PM
If they do dual-audio I nominate Dan Green for an English VA, he's good at hot-blooded shouting as evidenced by the GaoGaiGar dub (which unfortunately was cut off)

Zeta_Nova
09-20-2008, 08:45 PM
Unfortunately, asking for dual audio seems to be unlikely. Because most PS2 RPG games don't offer this option. As compared to 360 and the PS3. Where they have more storage and that this option seems more likely.

jeffx
09-20-2008, 08:53 PM
lol @ 360 having more "storage" space than PS2

you learn something new everyday, eh.

Zeta_Nova
09-21-2008, 07:51 AM
Still, if we get the game without the dual audio track. I'll still be happy, as I will finally get to play this voiced game in english.

Kakizaki
09-21-2008, 10:23 AM
Are you guys still going to be thinking this has a chance 2,3, or 5 years down the road and talking about it then? Give up the ghost.

Zeta_Nova
09-21-2008, 04:45 PM
So what? If they want to finally play this, then so be it. Besides, I'm all for trying out this version of Original Generations.

Kakizaki
09-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Play what?

I could care less about if you guys want to discuss any of these games. That is fine, but the chances that Atlus will pick up any OG for the PS2 are pretty much dead.

Zeta_Nova
09-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I guess I can see where you're comin' from. That it's not as popular as the Tales series in North America huh? And with those many licenses as well.

Kakizaki
09-21-2008, 10:16 PM
Tales? I never even mentioned that. Who cares?

Sei
09-21-2008, 10:43 PM
I think the PS2 is still going strong, and recent releases like Baroque, upcoming Dokapon Kingdom, Persona 4, and Eternal Poison would should that Atlus continues to see it as a viable platform for releases.

Thus, there is still a possibility that Atlus may pick it up!. Older games have been released in the states before, and, as far as I know, there is no really good reason not to do them. SRT is sprite based, so it ages better than a lot of games, as well.


Zeta: The PS2 and the 360 both use DVD's and thus have exactly the same amount of storage per disc. Unless you meant something like the Japanese Voice acting for the 360 Naruto game, which was actually available as a download after the games launch.

I wouldn't mind more stuff like that.

Kakizaki
09-21-2008, 11:23 PM
^There comes a point where a cut-off is inevitable. You could have said the same for GBA games and Atlus in '06. Stores are dedicating less and less space to the PS2 and its games.

James Fiend
09-22-2008, 08:49 AM
I don't know about that. If Konami is still releasing DDR games on the PS2, SRT still has a shot.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 09:50 AM
Yeah, because SRW has the mass appeal that DDR does.........


It works on a publisher by publisher basis......

Zeta_Nova
09-22-2008, 11:54 AM
Oh well, we'll know tomorrow when they [Atlus] make an announcement. Well, from page 27. They said that they would make an announcement on Tuesday.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 11:56 AM
^Wait, what?

Where exactly did they say they intended to make an announcement tomorrow? Where is it on page 27?

edit - You do realize those were people joking, and that stuff was posted almost a month ago right? You see, I don't care about silliness, speculation, or talking about the series in general, but some of you honestly believe what is being written by people who are being completely and obviously facetious in their posts.

cj iwakura
09-22-2008, 12:03 PM
Is it true that we finally getting an announcement on the Super Robot Wars OG game?

Atlus doesn't listen to it's fans.

Sure we do. We just don't reply.

Atlus staff make the best sig-worthy posts.

James Fiend
09-22-2008, 12:04 PM
Yeah, because SRW has the mass appeal that DDR does.........


It works on a publisher by publisher basis......The mass appeal of DDR is my point. If Konami is still willing to put out another DDR on the PS2 (despite having moved on to every next gen system including the Wii) then a limited release niche title like SRT isn't exactly a long shot.

And lol @ the page 27 announcement.

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:07 PM
You mean there won't be an announcement tommorrow? :( :(

James Fiend
09-22-2008, 12:11 PM
You mean there won't be an announcement tommorrow? :( :(Of course there will. Onion specifically said "!=". I think the ! is a simplified Chinese character local to huangdong province for xingqi (weekday), and the = is the Chinese character for er(two). Together this means Tuesday.

cj iwakura
09-22-2008, 12:12 PM
Sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads these words that appear when I hit the keys on this little board thingy in front of me.

"!=" means "does not equal."Does this post mean there will be an artbook too?

Each copy comes with a piece of the Weissritter. Collect all 40,000 and build your own!

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:13 PM
The mass appeal of DDR is my point. If Konami is still willing to put out another DDR on the PS2 (despite having moved on to every next gen system including the Wii) then a limited release niche title like SRT isn't exactly a long shot.

No it isn't the same thing. Konami is a much larger publisher, translating a DDR title is less of a risk -- you know it will still sell, and it is a much smaller investment time wise because it is less text intensive, voice work, etc... There isn't a guarantee with the SRT titles at all.

The broad appeal of a mass market title vs a niche title can't even be compared on the same level. It isn't as if you can assume one user base (DDR fans for example)will be attracted to a title just because it is a game that is being published on a console for which they still purchase games if it isn't something that appeals to them.

Besides, why would we want something so archaic game play-wise?

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:16 PM
I just want to know one thing Kaki!.

Why do you hate happyness?. Never have I seen a single birthday so quickly change someone into a grumpy old man :(

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:17 PM
^I don't, but some of the posts here never fail to surprise me.

Announcement tomorrow? Wow....

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:21 PM
^ You never know! There might be one! My faithfull newsletter comes almost weekly with Atlus goodness.

Every time, before opening the email, I close my eyes and hope. One of these days, a happy announcement of awesome SRPG with over the top kintic action involving mech that are losely based on preexisting one, but cool on their own right, will meet my gaze.

James Fiend
09-22-2008, 12:21 PM
The mass appeal of DDR is my point. If Konami is still willing to put out another DDR on the PS2 (despite having moved on to every next gen system including the Wii) then a limited release niche title like SRT isn't exactly a long shot.

No it isn't the same thing. Konami is a much larger publisher, translating a DDR title is less of a risk -- you know it will still sell, and it is a much smaller investment time wise because it is less text intensive, voice work, etc... There isn't a guarantee with the SRT titles at all.

The broad appeal of a mass market title vs a niche title can't even be compared on the same level. It isn't as if you can assume one user base (DDR fans for example)will be attracted to a title just because it is a game that is being published on a console for which they still purchase games if it isn't something that appeals to them.

Besides, why would we want something so archaic game play-wise?You could make this argument about nearly every game Atlus produces. Ironically, the games that seem to have gotten the most criticism are the games they've put on next gen consoles.

The point about DDR is that the PS2 isn't all that archaic yet. Arguably, the same cult groups that gobble up the Japan heavy culture of DDR overlap with fans of over-the-top giant robot and JRPG.

I doubt it would be worse/do worse than Zoids Assault, in any case.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:22 PM
^ You never know! There might be one! My faithfull newsletter comes almost weekly with Atlus goodness.

Every time, before opening the email, I close my eyes and hope. One of these days, a happy announcement of awesome SRPG with over the top kintic action involving mech that are losely based on preexisting one, but cool on their own right, will meet my gaze.

^Armodyne?

Zeta_Nova
09-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Well, that's what one of the staff members said on this matter. I was just checking back to that pg 27. And said that the "announcement will be Tuesday".

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:25 PM
No! Although that might be decent, I saw the intro on youtube and it looked neat.

I speak of SRT!

Boy, I can't type today.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:32 PM
You could make this argument about nearly every game Atlus produces. Ironically, the games that seem to have gotten the most criticism are the games they've put on next gen consoles.

While you could, it would be under a different set of circumstances, not purely the comparison you have laid out between DDR and SRT, and not all would fit in this hardware generation gap that we are speaking of. There have also been plenty of stinkers in the past couple of years that had little to do with new hardware.

The point about DDR is that the PS2 isn't all that archaic yet. Arguably, the same cult groups that gobble up the Japan heavy culture of DDR overlap with fans of over-the-top giant robot and JRPG.

That is a pretty broad assumption. I could tell you from years of working at GS how far off that is. I'm guessing that if I would have asked every customer that purchased DDR what mecha were, I would have gone months before someone would have even had a clue. Of all of my friends that are into DDR, I can only think of one who likes mecha -- and he couldn't stand OG on GBA. I love Japanese pop culture, despise DDR, love mecha, and dislike OG (while I do like SRW).

Again, if you want to try and compare the two, that is fine, but I don't see any correlation -- both in user base and how it demonstrates there is still a market for niche titles a year or two down the road in the U.S. Especially when DDR isn't a niche title......

I think it is odd you are trying to compare the two user bases to be honest. You once told me the success of one franchise, even if they were very similar, had little influence on guaranteeing the success of the other. In this instance, there is little connection between the two besides your reach.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:33 PM
Well, that's what one of the staff members said on this matter. I was just checking back to that pg 27. And said that the "announcement will be Tuesday".


Quote it then. No staff member said it.

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:36 PM
I think it was me, I don't work at Atlus Zeta.

It was kind of a joke at onion saying... it doesn't matter.

It was a joke, sorry. It might be announced tuesday, but they havent said that it will.

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:37 PM
I think SMT 1&2 on GBA will be announced on Tuesday too.

It is going to be a good day for us Sei!

Sei
09-22-2008, 12:39 PM
I love tuesdays!

Kakizaki
09-22-2008, 12:41 PM
Me too!

punkrocker_271
09-22-2008, 01:08 PM
^ I hate Mondays

Hossaria
09-23-2008, 04:53 PM
Yeah, because SRW has the mass appeal that DDR does........
That's true, at least in japan...


I speak of SRT!
No! You speak of SRW!

Loup Garou
09-23-2008, 06:58 PM
You need to be nicer on here. One of my friends told me he saw this was going to be announced today and I went to try and preorder it. The cashier at Gamestop laughed at me for believing it.

>_< That was really uncalled for by you guys
:mad:
:mad:
:mad:
:mad:



I WANT SRT: OG

Zeta_Nova
09-23-2008, 07:27 PM
Sorry. Though, it wasn't me saying that an announcement would be today [Tuesday]. Because I was just following up sombody's reply saying that it would be "next Tuesday".

Which was on the 27th page of this topic before this board had a major change.

Hossaria
09-23-2008, 09:34 PM
You need to be nicer on here. One of my friends told me he saw this was going to be announced today and I went to try and preorder it. The cashier at Gamestop laughed at me for believing it.

That's what you get for being a little naive (sorry dude, be nice ;) ).

Kakizaki
09-23-2008, 10:17 PM
That's true, at least in japan...


No! You speak of SRW!

I'm aware of the situation in Japan, but as this was a conversation regarding localizing a SRT title in the U.S., the U.S. market is what my comment was pertaining to. ;)

Olethros
09-24-2008, 01:05 PM
You need to be nicer on here. One of my friends told me he saw this was going to be announced today and I went to try and preorder it. The cashier at Gamestop laughed at me for believing it.

>_< That was really uncalled for by you guys
:mad:
:mad:
:mad:
:mad:



I WANT SRT: OG

Out of curiosity, are you being serious or is this a joke?

Hossaria
09-24-2008, 05:55 PM
I'm aware of the situation in Japan, but as this was a conversation regarding localizing a SRT title in the U.S., the U.S. market is what my comment was pertaining to. ;)
Yeah I know, I was just kidding.

That's what you get for being a little naive (sorry dude, be nice ;) ).
Sorry, I'll try to watch my tongue.

Kakizaki
09-24-2008, 07:01 PM
Yeah I know, I was just kidding.


Sorry, I'll try to watch my tongue.

Ah, it's cool man. Not used to you yet so I wasn't sure if you were serious or not.

Don't worry, I understand why you made the comment you did. ;) I had already attempted to explain to a few of the posters in this thread that the "Tuesday" comment was a joke and an old one at that.

Olethros
09-25-2008, 12:34 PM
^ Way to start abusing your power and intimidating the new people right out of the gate Kaki!

Kakizaki
09-25-2008, 12:37 PM
OHH THE POWER FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!


Ahhh, no cool emoticons anymore. :(

Olethros
09-25-2008, 12:40 PM
OHH THE POWER FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!


Ahhh, no cool emoticons anymore. :(

Yeah, what's up with that? I relied on the tongue out emoticon to keep my sarcasm from being taken seriously. I'm sooo going to get misread by someone here....

Kakizaki
09-25-2008, 12:48 PM
^I guess it is old school ascii time. :P

Onion of Mystery
09-25-2008, 01:42 PM
Tongue out emoticon? This one? :p

James Fiend
09-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Ah, there's the announcement.

cj iwakura
09-25-2008, 08:02 PM
So, stupid question. In the event that Atlus USA tried to license SRT: OG PS2 and was turned down, or that they have no real plans to bring it over, will they let us know eventually and put the hopeful waiting to an end?

On the other hand, if they're just prolonging the suspense until an actual announcement, then carry on.

Sei
09-25-2008, 08:04 PM
I don't think they can ever say no. That being said, I heard something big is coming next tuesday...

Kakizaki
09-25-2008, 08:49 PM
So, stupid question. In the event that Atlus USA tried to license SRT: OG PS2 and was turned down, or that they have no real plans to bring it over, will they let us know eventually and put the hopeful waiting to an end?

On the other hand, if they're just prolonging the suspense until an actual announcement, then carry on.

I don't think they have ever officially stated that they weren't bringing over a particular title.

Sei pointed out the same thing I guess.

James Fiend
09-25-2008, 10:06 PM
So, stupid question. In the event that Atlus USA tried to license SRT: OG PS2 and was turned down, or that they have no real plans to bring it over, will they let us know eventually and put the hopeful waiting to an end?

On the other hand, if they're just prolonging the suspense until an actual announcement, then carry on.
They always say that they never say no "just in case." If they announced that they had no plans to bring this over and then ten years later published a SRT OG COLLECTIONS and it included this game, I'd be one of the first ten in on the class action lawsuit.

Olethros
09-26-2008, 08:04 AM
Tongue out emoticon? This one? :p

You've gotten to be a bit more of a smartass over the last month, eh? :p

Onion of Mystery
09-26-2008, 09:03 AM
Nah, it's that the smilie filters are apparently case-sensitive, so I had to go through it and make sure all the variables got covered. I'm just as much a smart-ass.

Olethros
09-26-2008, 09:36 AM
Well that makes sense. Old guys like us don't change our ways very often.

Sei
09-26-2008, 10:27 AM
Awesome custom title Onion!.

Hmmm, it might be a hint of games to come...

Onion of Mystery
09-26-2008, 10:38 AM
No, it's a reference to the Altiesen model on my desk.

Sei
09-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Pics or it didnt happen!

Onion of Mystery
09-26-2008, 11:02 AM
Through the magic of crappy camera phones, I give you a mass Objection!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Bursar/Photos/grouppoint.jpg

James Fiend
09-26-2008, 11:07 AM
Is Alteisen pointing with his gatling gun? I find that rude.

cj iwakura
09-26-2008, 11:52 AM
Growlanser/Disgaea/DMC/Phoenix Wright/SRT crossover confirmed?

RayFoxSith
09-26-2008, 11:56 AM
LOL at the random duck.

Hossaria
09-26-2008, 07:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Bursar/Photos/grouppoint.jpg
That's a pretty nice collection. ;-)

TheMagicHat
09-26-2008, 08:36 PM
The Alt's doing it wrong. It objects better with the Revolving Stake. :P

Nice collection, in any case.

punkrocker_271
09-27-2008, 06:00 AM
Awesome collection onion

sdragon21
09-27-2008, 02:45 PM
Through the magic of crappy camera phones, I give you a mass Objection!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Bursar/Photos/grouppoint.jpg

It'd be pretty funny if the prinny said: "Objection,Dood!!!"

Hossaria
09-29-2008, 07:56 PM
It'd be pretty funny if the prinny said: "Objection,Dood!!!"
That would be interesting.

Zantagor
09-30-2008, 01:29 PM
Hohoh, I've got the Weissritter on pre-order myself ;) (coming out in November)

Hossaria
10-01-2008, 11:54 AM
Hohoh, I've got the Weissritter on pre-order myself ;) (coming out in November)
The Weissritter? Nice choice.

Zeta_Nova
10-01-2008, 12:39 PM
There's no update.

"I heard there was a update next Tuesday"

Really? Then where's this "update". Unless if you guys're joking again.

Olethros
10-01-2008, 12:49 PM
^ OK, I'm going to make this really, really easy for you from now on:

PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY WHO SAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ANOUNCEMENT!

If there is an anouncement, you'll know it.

Xfraze
10-01-2008, 07:26 PM
Not really sure if this has been pointed out yet or not, but a major hurdle with licensing this game is the fact that a large majority of the characters present in it are licensed under different companies here in the states. Maybe in Japan they all fall under bandai, but when the anime or games related to them get picked up here in the states, other people have the rights to that specific title/name. If atlus wanted to localize it, then they would have to deal with all the people who have their finger in the pie (with regards to those specific characters) resulting in it not being worth their time in the long run =/

Kakizaki
10-01-2008, 07:51 PM
^While that may be the case for SRW, does it still hold true for SRT?

The licensing issue is something many of us have brought up in the past regarding SRW.

System_Error
10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
Not really sure if this has been pointed out yet or not, but a major hurdle with licensing this game is the fact that a large majority of the characters present in it are licensed under different companies here in the states. Maybe in Japan they all fall under bandai, but when the anime or games related to them get picked up here in the states, other people have the rights to that specific title/name. If atlus wanted to localize it, then they would have to deal with all the people who have their finger in the pie (with regards to those specific characters) resulting in it not being worth their time in the long run =/


This is OG, not the others. OG = all original wobots.

Hossaria
10-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Not really sure if this has been pointed out yet or not, but a major hurdle with licensing this game is the fact that a large majority of the characters present in it are licensed under different companies here in the states. Maybe in Japan they all fall under bandai, but when the anime or games related to them get picked up here in the states, other people have the rights to that specific title/name. If atlus wanted to localize it, then they would have to deal with all the people who have their finger in the pie (with regards to those specific characters) resulting in it not being worth their time in the long run =/
This is Original Generations, with only banpresto originals, genious.

Kakizaki
10-01-2008, 09:20 PM
That is what I thought.

Sanctine
10-02-2008, 03:30 AM
genious.

.....

Olethros
10-02-2008, 07:44 AM
genious.

.....

:lol:

Hossaria
10-02-2008, 01:13 PM
genious.

.....
I'm aware of the correct spelling, just wanted it to be a little ironic :devil:. Besides there's nothing wrong with a korean speaking engrish :P.

Olethros
10-02-2008, 01:22 PM
^ Way to make it a hell of a lot less funny! :p

Hossaria
10-02-2008, 01:26 PM
^ Way to make it a hell of a lot less funny! :p
Thanks, you're too kind! :P

Hossaria
10-02-2008, 06:37 PM
.....
So many dots........They're scaring me!!!!??? :???:

Constraint
10-03-2008, 01:03 PM
jesus, 100,000 views.

Olethros
10-03-2008, 01:11 PM
^ For some, the dream will never die.

Constraint
10-03-2008, 08:38 PM
For atlus, 100,000 views is a ####ing discussion meeting.

RayFoxSith
10-03-2008, 09:10 PM
That's probably nothing if you consider about a handful of people who come into this thread numerous times. Just by coming into the topic the board recognizes it as a viewing.

Hossaria
10-04-2008, 11:23 PM
^ Indeed

Zantagor
10-07-2008, 01:26 PM
Hohoh, I've got the Weissritter on pre-order myself ;) (coming out in November)
The Weissritter? Nice choice.

Rein Weissritter to be more precise ;)

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-12q-49-en-15-Weibritter-70-2t6b.html

Hossaria
10-07-2008, 07:45 PM
^ It was a great choice, then.

JunoWalker
10-09-2008, 02:49 PM
I think Atlus should bring over more of the SRT series for the DS or maybe even some of the gundam series games. I love the idea of piloting robot suit into combat & would love to see more of the SRT or even a gundam game or 2 perferably from gundam wing or an original series like Mobile Suite Gundam or MS 8th Team. I know there are a lot of gundam games to chose from & don't really know which one to pick so I will leave that up to you at Atlus. I know you have great jugement when it comes to this sort of thing so pick away & dont disapoint us!!!!

Zachalmighty
10-10-2008, 01:02 PM
I think Atlus should bring over more of the SRT series for the DS or maybe even some of the gundam series games. I love the idea of piloting robot suit into combat & would love to see more of the SRT or even a gundam game or 2 perferably from gundam wing or an original series like Mobile Suite Gundam or MS 8th Team. I know there are a lot of gundam games to chose from & don't really know which one to pick so I will leave that up to you at Atlus. I know you have great jugement when it comes to this sort of thing so pick away & dont disapoint us!!!!

They can only bring over the OG games because of the licensing problems inherent in bringing the ones with gundam/big O/Mazinger/etc over.

Xfraze
10-15-2008, 06:53 PM
They can only bring over the OG games because of the licensing problems inherent in bringing the ones with gundam/big O/Mazinger/etc over.

It's really lame how they can't get around it with the whole parody clause too =/

James Fiend
10-15-2008, 08:16 PM
They can only bring over the OG games because of the licensing problems inherent in bringing the ones with gundam/big O/Mazinger/etc over.

It's really lame how they can't get around it with the whole parody clause too =/What do you mean by this? You want Atlus to slightly change everything and the names, or something, to get around it? That would be terrible.

Einherjar
10-15-2008, 08:26 PM
That's probably nothing if you consider about a handful of people who come into this thread numerous times. Just by coming into the topic the board recognizes it as a viewing.

Same applies to all threads.

Gamescook
10-16-2008, 07:23 PM
Gosh, I sure would appreciate yet another PS2 release. I bought both games when they were released on the Gameboy Advance about two years ago and just *now* got around to actually trying them. I couldn't get into the first game because the graphics were so plain, given that it was developed in 2002. The sequel gives no information on the events of the first title, no quick summary for the uncommon new players, so the technical terms and organization names just went right over my head that I couldn't get comfortable and appreciate the improved graphics. I know it looks shallow, but to have a single release of both games, and on a console I still greatly enjoy that allows flashy graphics from the first battle onwards, would be a very nice treat. Certainly, it would be nice for the PS2 to end on such an eccentric note in the US.

James Fiend
10-18-2008, 06:40 AM
Gosh, I sure would appreciate yet another PS2 release. I bought both games when they were released on the Gameboy Advance about two years ago and just *now* got around to actually trying them. I couldn't get into the first game because the graphics were so plain, given that it was developed in 2002. The sequel gives no information on the events of the first title, no quick summary for the uncommon new players, so the technical terms and organization names just went right over my head that I couldn't get comfortable and appreciate the improved graphics. I know it looks shallow, but to have a single release of both games, and on a console I still greatly enjoy that allows flashy graphics from the first battle onwards, would be a very nice treat. Certainly, it would be nice for the PS2 to end on such an eccentric note in the US.

I can't tell if this is a sarcastic post or not. I kind of like that fact.

Hossaria
10-21-2008, 05:42 PM
^
That's not really sarcasm...

Zantagor
10-23-2008, 08:33 AM
^
That's not really sarcasm...

Seemed like genuine point to me, not sarcasm at all.

the 1st GBA title was incredibly outdated when it came out. And the lack of "prologue" info in the 2nd made the story hard to follow at first.

I didn't have these problems because I finished the 1st twice (with both characters) but still, the PS2 version is also a LOT better(both in gameplay and graphic), a lot less punishing too in difficulty.

Sei
10-23-2008, 08:47 AM
It sounds sincere to me. Needless to say, I agree as well.

Yeah, I got SRT OG 2 before 1 and couldn't really get into it due to its lack of some kind of prologue. Luckily, I got the first one soon after and good times followed.

I like real robots :). I found the real robot route in the 1st one the best. Sort of sad they both meld for the ending of the game, but still, you can deploy whichever units you want, so it's always ultimately up to you.

The R-Gun and the Alteisen are my favorite mechs in the series, I think.

Super Robot Fan
10-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Me too, I really like the Alteisen Riese though.

Olethros
10-24-2008, 07:06 AM
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7431/voltronol4.png (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=voltronol4.png)
My favorite was the one that formed the head! :grouphug:

Sei
10-24-2008, 08:28 AM
^ AH! You've played Super Robot Taisen W? That's the one with Beast King GoLion mech in it, it's supposedly good, how did you like it?

I couldn't ever really get too much into Beast King GoLion myself, the dub was okay, but Macross (Robotech) was around, and I've always been partial to Real Robots series.

This page has pictures of the Alteisen and Weisritter models, I've been thinking about maybe getting some of those, anyone else do models?

http://pony-hp.web.infoseek.co.jp/WEISRITTER/WEISRITTER-10.JPG

http://pony-hp.web.infoseek.co.jp/WEISRITTER.htm

Olethros
10-24-2008, 09:01 AM
<3 Sei!

Hamel
10-24-2008, 10:29 AM
I wish licensing wasn't a problem so we could get the games with GaoGaiGar

James Fiend
10-24-2008, 12:50 PM
^ AH! You've played Super Robot Taisen W? That's the one with Beast King GoLion mech in it, it's supposedly good, how did you like it?


I bought the box set of Beast King GoLion the other day. I also tried W a few months ago and the animations were terrific. When you finish someone, it actually changes to a killing move. It is quite satisfying to watch your mech fly through space, dissect the enemy and then strike a fancy pose while they explode in the background.

Zachalmighty
10-24-2008, 03:02 PM
You Mean Voltron?

Super Robot Fan
10-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Wow, Sei that is a nice pic of the models. What scale is that in? I been looking for a Altesien and Altesien Riese model that like 1/100 or 1/60

James Fiend
10-24-2008, 11:43 PM
You Mean Voltron?

He is only one of the Voltrons.

CodeIndigo
11-03-2008, 05:27 PM
This might be something to consider. Last week SCEA dropped the restrictions for content on the PS2, making it an open platform. What this means is that Sony can no longer refuse to approve games based on content, such as-- you guessed it-- audio tracks or graphics. What I'm wondering is if this will possibly open the door for an English release of SRT:OGs at long last?

Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but then again...

Onion of Mystery
11-03-2008, 05:39 PM
Do you have a link to that? I find it hard to believe that Sony is "no longer allowed" to have a say in what is allowed in their game library.

Flußkönig
11-03-2008, 07:37 PM
It sounds like this might just be fore Europe. Here is a link.

http://www.developmag.com/news/30726/Sony-relaxes-approvals-process

Edit:

It is definitely just for Europe at this point.

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/casual-connect-sony-on-developing-for-an-open-ps2-platform/?biz=1

Sei
11-03-2008, 08:37 PM
^ I hope it's for the US too soon! Onion lessgo!

Wow, Sei that is a nice pic of the models. What scale is that in? I been looking for a Altesien and Altesien Riese model that like 1/100 or 1/60

Those are 1/100, here are more pics of the Alteisen and the Alteisen Nacht
http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2007/11/1100-alteisen-coolsome.html

Pretty awesome, I agree. Note the comparison with the RX-78 Gundam!

I also have the Unicorn model, and want to get the Sinanju, but it's preorder sold out too fast.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2973439191_9bdb088a23_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2974293680_dc7ea3b052_o.jpg
Here it is with the Gundam Huckebein :)

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff252/ngee_khiong5/100_Altaisen_09.jpg

unknown
11-03-2008, 09:22 PM
Very nice models Sei.

Zantagor
11-04-2008, 12:06 PM
Nice Sei,

still waiting for my Weissritter Rein to ship from play-asia.

Constraint
11-04-2008, 01:35 PM
^ AH! You've played Super Robot Taisen W? That's the one with Beast King GoLion mech in it, it's supposedly good, how did you like it?


I bought the box set of Beast King GoLion the other day. I also tried W a few months ago and the animations were terrific. When you finish someone, it actually changes to a killing move. It is quite satisfying to watch your mech fly through space, dissect the enemy and then strike a fancy pose while they explode in the background.

Yeah, that's a dynamic kill. There's tons of them in Super Robot Taisen W.

SickleCellAnemia
11-04-2008, 08:03 PM
You want shoes? I got your shoes. I got your shoes right here, buddy. spamspamspamspamspam
OMG shoes!
http://www.undine.deadtime.net/blog/shoes.jpg

Zeether
11-04-2008, 08:17 PM
cool, this thread was so lame it attracted a spambot

giothegame
11-04-2008, 09:09 PM
Sweet new originals from in Super Robots Wars Z.
Gunleon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoybnGcUmA&feature=related

Zantagor
11-05-2008, 07:48 AM
Sweet new originals from in Super Robots Wars Z.
Gunleon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoybnGcUmA&feature=related

Heh, I've been broadcasting live on Justin TV my gameplay of SRW Z almost every night since a few week now ;)

Mission 56 now. Though I'm on the Real Route, so no Gunleon.

Olethros
11-05-2008, 08:03 AM
cool, this thread was so lame it attracted a spambot


LOL!!

Sei
11-05-2008, 08:20 AM
Sweet new originals from in Super Robots Wars Z.
Gunleon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoybnGcUmA&feature=related

Heh, I've been broadcasting live on Justin TV my gameplay of SRW Z almost every night since a few week now ;)

Mission 56 now. Though I'm on the Real Route, so no Gunleon.

That's pretty cool, I'll probably give it a watch :).

I've been thinking about Play asian'ing this one up, what do you think of it overall?

I also really like the design of the Gunleon.

Finally, not SRW related, but I thought pretty awesome if into models: http://www.geocities.com/joehass_nz/lucca.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/joehass_nz/lucca.jpg)

Greyhawk
11-05-2008, 08:47 AM
That's pretty cool, I'll probably give it a watch :).

I've been thinking about Play asian'ing this one up, what do you think of it overall?

I also really like the design of the Gunleon.

Finally, not SRW related, but I thought pretty awesome if into models: http://www.geocities.com/joehass_nz/lucca.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/joehass_nz/lucca.jpg)

Nifty and disturbing at the same time.

TheMagicHat
11-05-2008, 03:58 PM
cool, this thread was so lame it attracted a spambot
Same could be said for several spambotted threads on this forum. This isn't the first thread to get hit. :P

James Fiend
11-05-2008, 07:21 PM
cool, this thread was so lame it attracted a spambot
Same could be said for several spambotted threads on this forum. This isn't the first thread to get hit. :P

Just the most awesome one.

Hossaria
11-09-2008, 06:53 PM
^
That's not really sarcasm...

Seemed like genuine point to me, not sarcasm at all.



What the hell are you talking about? I meant that from the start....

SickleCellAnemia
11-09-2008, 07:00 PM
What the hell are you talking about? I meant that from the start....
...........

Hossaria
11-09-2008, 07:04 PM
Here it is with the Gundam Huckebein :)


You're aware that the Huckebein isn't really a Gudam, right? Both this mecha and the R-1 were designed by Hajime Katouki, who worked in a lot of Gundam series.

Hossaria
11-09-2008, 07:06 PM
...........
...........

Zachalmighty
11-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Sweet new originals from in Super Robots Wars Z.
Gunleon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZoybnGcUmA&feature=related

ahahaha It has a wrench as a weapon lol.

If i saw a MS like that coming towards me I would be looking around for cameras because I had obviously fallen onto the set of transformers 2.

DamnedToBeFree
11-09-2008, 07:11 PM
...........
...........

Sei
11-09-2008, 07:17 PM
Here it is with the Gundam Huckebein :)


You're aware that the Huckebein isn't really a Gudam, right? Both this mecha and the R-1 were designed by Hajime Katouki, who worked in a lot of Gundam series.


Yeah, It was a joke at how the Huckebein looks like a Gundam. I thought it was supossed to be a parody/homenage to them.

Hossaria
11-09-2008, 07:39 PM
Yeah, It was a joke at how the Huckebein looks like a Gundam. I thought it was supossed to be a parody/homenage to them.
It was amusing. But I was afraid some people could misunderstand, specially those who aren't familiar with Gundam designs, so thats the reason I replied.

Bolinoak
11-09-2008, 08:20 PM
Although I am not the only one here to voice their opinion on how this great game should come to the States, I will announce my wishes for this gaming coming to our shores. So Atlus, look at these pages upon pages and just think about it, please.

Olethros
11-10-2008, 08:12 AM
^ If you really broke it down, however, the number of pages isn't really as impressive as it seems.

If you discount all of the posts by people like me who are only in this thread to amuse themselves, all of the random chatter, and count each poster who has asked for the game only once (most of them come and say the same thing about 50 times) then the thread would probably be about a page and a half.

Just sayin...

Sei
11-10-2008, 01:09 PM
Does anyone know of a good source of sourced translations of specs and story bits for the original mechs like the Huckebein and the Alteisen? I am thinking of making wikipedia articles, but haven't really found good sources online.

Pm's are welcome!

Olethros
11-10-2008, 01:56 PM
^ Ooh, Ooh, I DO I DO!!!!!!!!!

Kakizaki
11-10-2008, 01:57 PM
^I never knew that about you O. Been a mecha fan for long?

Sei
11-10-2008, 02:03 PM
^ Ooh, Ooh, I DO I DO!!!!!!!!!

Do you for real?

Olethros
11-10-2008, 02:14 PM
^ Ooh, Ooh, I DO I DO!!!!!!!!!

Do you for real?


:devil: Of course not. Haha, made ya look! :p

Sei
11-10-2008, 02:17 PM
Awww :(

Well, if you do come across something sometime, let me know!.

There really doesn't seem to be a lot of good sourced info. I think I'd probably like to translate one of these games if I have time and find a good hacker at some point.

Olethros
11-10-2008, 02:23 PM
^ Sei, you could use your translation skills for something much better. Aren't there old political documents or literature or something? Seems like there should be more 'positive impact' uses of your time than that.

Sei
11-10-2008, 03:19 PM
That doesn't sound like a fun hobby, though :(. Plus, the same could be said about Gemini's translation of Innocent Sin, or the Mother 3 translation, which I think more people will enjoy than some obscure article.

Finally, the reason I'd prolly do this as opposed to more deep stuff (or other things I'd love to do, like the first Persona) is because these games seem to (from what I've seen and played) be fairly straightforward in the Kanji and grammar that they use, making them perfect practice, while say, Devil Summoner (which I gave a spin to earlier) is full of relatively obscure Kanji, which is fairly out of my current level (but won't be forever, hopefully!).

I'd also love to give Ghiren's greed a spin, but that's fairly advanced as well.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 07:25 AM
^ I see. Well, fun is important and all but I really pegged you for having more civic mindedness. What happened to channeling your inner-Obama?

Sei
11-11-2008, 09:00 AM
Thats an American thing! Up here we channel our inner Harper. Think Bush, but emotionless, super conservative cyborg. You should look up his hit book "The Audacity of token tax breaks for the middle class and huge ones for mega corporations, some of them foreign", "Lebanon Now", and "Privatized healthcare: here and now, or now here?". Good way to learn about the new Canada!.

(The above is satire, please no politics in awesome super robot land. This goes for whoever feels like debating the merits of the current conservative govt. There is an argument thread in off topic that would do better. AGAIN, NOT SERIOUS. [making sure])

Greyhawk
11-11-2008, 09:09 AM
Thats an American thing! Up here we channel our inner Harper. Think Bush, but emotionless, super conservative cyborg. You should look up his hit book "The Audacity of token tax breaks for the middle class and huge ones for mega corporations, some of them foreign", "Lebanon Now", and "Privatized healthcare: here and now, or now here?". Good way to learn about the new Canada!.

(The above is satire, please no politics in awesome super robot land. This goes for whoever feels like debating the merits of the current conservative govt. There is an argument thread in off topic that would do better. AGAIN, NOT SERIOUS. [making sure])

I read "Canada" and suddenly found myself replaying the intro to the original Fallout game in my head.

Sei
11-11-2008, 09:13 AM
It was so awesome. Wish Bethesda had kept something like that.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 10:11 AM
Thats an American thing! Up here we channel our inner Harper. Think Bush, but emotionless, super conservative cyborg. You should look up his hit book "The Audacity of token tax breaks for the middle class and huge ones for mega corporations, some of them foreign", "Lebanon Now", and "Privatized healthcare: here and now, or now here?". Good way to learn about the new Canada!.

(The above is satire, please no politics in awesome super robot land. This goes for whoever feels like debating the merits of the current conservative govt. There is an argument thread in off topic that would do better. AGAIN, NOT SERIOUS. [making sure])

Awww, no fair Sei. I thought that everywhere and anywhere was a great place for politics. :(

Sei
11-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Nuh huh, unless you want to discuss the events that brought side 3 to declare itself the principality of Zeon and declare a preemptive war of independence against the United Earth Federation on the back of Minovsky Ultracompact fusion reactor powered Zakii.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 10:27 AM
^ huh? The who in the what now? :confused:

Sei
11-11-2008, 10:28 AM
:tongue:

Olethros
11-11-2008, 10:32 AM
Didn't anyone teach you to respect your elders? It's not nice to try confusing grandpa. :mad:

DamnedToBeFree
11-11-2008, 10:33 AM
Nuh huh, unless you want to discuss the events that brought side 3 to declare itself the principality of Zeon and declare a preemptive war of independence against the United Earth Federation on the back of Minovsky Ultracompact fusion reactor powered Zakii.


Sei, are you on teh drugs again? It's ok, you can tell us.

Sei
11-11-2008, 10:59 AM
I can quit anytime I want!. I just... don't feel like it right now... yeah.

StrikeRaider
11-11-2008, 11:05 AM
I thought it was because they wanted to force the Earth's inhabitants into space? Or is that just Char's Counterattack?

Sei
11-11-2008, 11:16 AM
^ That's just the Neo Zeon headed by Char. His preferred method of space migration encouragement was via extinction grade asteroid drop!.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 11:21 AM
What the heck is all this robot talk going on in this thread for?

C'mon guys, knock it off already!

Sei
11-11-2008, 11:28 AM
Shush you, you could learn a thing or two from Gundam.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article5058011.ece

If they are successful, the founders of the project told The Times, institutions and companies across Japan could embark on new fields of research: everything from the perfection of a universal translation device to moon settlements and the construction of a mega-particle cannon.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 11:40 AM
^ Alright, that IS kinda cool. Still too much robots, tho. :tongue:

StrikeRaider
11-11-2008, 01:16 PM
Ah. I remember Char's Counterattack. I was just remembering though that Char says something about how his father said that he wanted to force humans into space so that they could evolve.

The#1 reason mobile suits like in gundam can't exist is power supply vs weight distribution. The ability to power such a thing combined with how light they seem to be is physically impossible. The suits in 00 (before the solar furnaces are given to them) are most likely.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 01:22 PM
I could've sworn I said no more robot talk.

StrikeRaider
11-11-2008, 01:33 PM
You cannot control what I say. You are no admin. Plus it is a giant robot thread.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 01:50 PM
It was a joke. Simmer down there, fella. You robot people are so damned excitable....

Sei
11-11-2008, 02:01 PM
Ah. I remember Char's Counterattack. I was just remembering though that Char says something about how his father said that he wanted to force humans into space so that they could evolve.

The#1 reason mobile suits like in gundam can't exist is power supply vs weight distribution. The ability to power such a thing combined with how light they seem to be is physically impossible. The suits in 00 (before the solar furnaces are given to them) are most likely.

Yeah, Char's dad was Zum Deikun and had the theory that humans in space would evolve into newtypes that would get along. Didn't quite work out that way, but apparently Newtypes make mean mobile suit pilots!. Zum didn't leave to see Newtypes however, and his death was one of the things that made young Char a bit murderously unstable around the Zabis :).

00 is, I think, the first Gundam applied to current technology or slightly past that. I think the Flags and the Hsiens are probably more realistic in design and technology to be modern mobile suits than Zakus are. But I still like the Zaku design better :).

The Solar Reactors in it seem to be just renamed Minovsky reactors though, having the same effects of Minovsky particles on radar and communications and being fueled by Helium 3 from Saturn. One of the things I've always liked about Gundam (other than the politics and mostly realistic, non idealized portrayal of war {mobile suits not withstanding}) is how much care went into making the base sci fi concepts sound.

00 Gundam season 2 has what look like Salamis cruisers and Magellan class battleshipsin the intro. I am hoping they will come with a Zeon analog like they did with the Federation. Also a new Zaku. Really liking that show.

Olethros
11-11-2008, 02:06 PM
Ah. I remember Char's Counterattack. I was just remembering though that Char says something about how his father said that he wanted to force humans into space so that they could evolve.

The#1 reason mobile suits like in gundam can't exist is power supply vs weight distribution. The ability to power such a thing combined with how light they seem to be is physically impossible. The suits in 00 (before the solar furnaces are given to them) are most likely.

Yeah, Char's dad was Zum Deikun and had the theory that humans in space would evolve into newtypes that would get along. Didn't quite work out that way, but apparently Newtypes make mean mobile suit pilots!. Zum didn't leave to see Newtypes however, and his death was one of the things that made young Char a bit murderously unstable around the Zabis :).

Yeah, 00 is the first Gundam applied to current technology or slightly past that. The Solar Reactors in it seem to be just renamed Minovsky reactors though, having the same effects of Minovsky particles on radar and communications and being fueled by Helium 3 from Saturn. One of the things I've always liked about Gundam (other than the politics and mostly realistic, non idealized portrayal of war {mobile suits not withstanding}) is how much care went into making the base sci fi concepts sound.

00 Gundam season 2 has what look like Salamis cruisers and Magellan class battleships. I am hoping they will come with a Zeon analog like they did with the Federation. Really liking that show.

So you have a thing for phallic lunchmeats do you? :p

(yeah, humor maturity of a 12 y.o. I know...)

Sei
11-11-2008, 02:10 PM
^ Heh.

Anyway, this is the newest Zaku variant, the Geara Zulu, dunno if this would actually fit in 00, but I really like the design. On that note, I usually don't like the designs of actual Gundams that much, but the Unicorn Gundam is really really awesome. I hope they will animate those novels at some point.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/2455713511_1382e83ea0_o.jpg

StrikeRaider
11-11-2008, 03:34 PM
How can you not like the one with the mustache? I prefer the Original Wing Zero myself though.

The second season of 00 feels a lot like Zeta Gundam in terms of setting. Federation tyranny, A-Laws=Titans, and Celestial Being feels more like Axis than what it was in the first season.

Sei
11-13-2008, 12:56 PM
Heh. Actually I like Turn A. It's one of the models we own, actually assembled too, but not really lined.

That's a good point about 00 and Zeta. I sorta agree. I like how they introduced Newtypes sneakily, too, it's been a while (quantum brainwaves?) I just hope they use the old bell :)


Came across this the other day, its too awesome.

http://anaheimmachines.blogspot.com/search/label/Infinite%20Justice

Olethros
11-13-2008, 01:31 PM
Heh. Actually I like Turn A. It's one of the models we own, actually assembled too, but not really lined.

That's a good point about 00 and Zeta. I sorta agree. I like how they introduced Newtypes sneakily, too, it's been a while (quantum brainwaves?) I just hope they use the old bell :)


Came across this the other day, its too awesome.

http://anaheimmachines.blogspot.com/search/label/Infinite%20Justice

You and the salami?

Sei
11-13-2008, 01:40 PM
The salami got eaten :tongue:.

Zachalmighty
11-13-2008, 01:47 PM
I love Gundam 00 too. Unfortunately for Gundam Wing, it didn't apply well to the US by the time Toonami had it up since the economic problems of the 80's weren't really into the minds of my generation.

Sei
11-13-2008, 01:51 PM
I love Gundam 00 too. Unfortunately for Gundam Wing, it didn't apply well to the US by the time Toonami had it up since the economic problems of the 80's weren't really into the minds of my generation.

Wing is probably my least favorite Gundam. Oz's mobile suits are really underpowered, and really ugly. I like the soundtrack though, and Endless Waltz.

One of the things I really like about 00 is that the Celestial Being and the other units are mostly balances, so there is a point to the fights. A thing I never liked about Wing was that the Gundams were pretty much invincible (more so than usual!).

Also Heavy Arms. Nice 30 seconds of ammunition that can only hit fodder :/. Oh well, at least Hajime Katoki came out of Waltz. :D

Zachalmighty
11-13-2008, 02:20 PM
I love Gundam 00 too. Unfortunately for Gundam Wing, it didn't apply well to the US by the time Toonami had it up since the economic problems of the 80's weren't really into the minds of my generation.

Wing is probably my least favorite Gundam. Oz's mobile suits are really underpowered, and really ugly. I like the soundtrack though, and Endless Waltz.

One of the things I really like about 00 is that the Celestial Being and the other units are mostly balances, so there is a point to the fights. A thing I never liked about Wing was that the Gundams were pretty much invincible (more so than usual!).

Also Heavy Arms. Nice 30 seconds of ammunition that can only hit fodder :/. Oh well, at least Hajime Katoki came out of Waltz. :D

Yeh Gundam Wing was alot about suit capability and ALOT less about actual pilot skill.

StrikeRaider
11-13-2008, 03:33 PM
Nice site. I've always felt my model collection was lacking, I'd buy the models and not just the prints if I could. It's a shame they aren't real.

I don't remember Gundam Wing all that much but I do remember not caring for the story as much as the original MSG.

Hossaria
11-15-2008, 03:28 PM
^ huh? The who in the what now? :confused:
I bow before your intellect ... :p

Well, if you do come across something sometime, let me know!.

Hey, do you know about the Gate of the Magus? This site's all about banpresto originals:

http://srwog.velv.net/

I hope it helps you out.

Sei
11-15-2008, 03:59 PM
Thanks! I actually didn't know of that site, but it seems quite usefull.

Lemme know of any others you may come across. Love the sprites section.

Constraint
11-15-2008, 07:27 PM
If only Banpresto's bitch ass didn't announce Original Generations so soon after Original Generation 1 and 2 was released, we probably would've got this instead of the GBA ones.

Kakizaki
11-15-2008, 07:37 PM
^ huh? The who in the what now? :confused:
I bow before your intellect ... :p

Well, if you do come across something sometime, let me know!.

Hey, do you know about the Gate of the Magus? This site's all about banpresto originals:

http://srwog.velv.net/

I hope it helps you out.

I like your avatar.

Hossaria
11-15-2008, 09:13 PM
^ Thanks it's from "Super Dimensional Century: Orguss", just in case if you didn't knew. After all this series is pretty obscure, but it is pretty good and has unique mechanical designs .

Kakizaki
11-15-2008, 09:15 PM
^Yeah, I was aware of where it is from. ;)

I dig on Orguss.