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Constraint
07-10-2008, 03:05 AM
I don't see how Agarest Senki is big.
^ Well, because It would be their first PS3 game. No reason otherwise.
Unless there is some previously unannounced megaten, or some such, this would be the biggest thing they could do.
Or it might just be a new trauma center for wii (port of under the knife 2) or something. I'd be a bit disappointed.
RayFoxSith
07-10-2008, 07:41 AM
I was saying that Ray was either telling me to shut up or the Growlanser kids to shut up.
No, I was replying to that person who said the thread needed more posts. It wasn't aimed at you at all. Plus Eliminage and Poison Pink are not ####.
Olethros
07-10-2008, 08:29 AM
shut up Sei. The bot was talking bout Elminage and Poison Pink...
I hope you're right SE, but I doubt it.
Constraint
07-10-2008, 08:10 PM
Unless there is some previously unannounced megaten, or some such, this would be the biggest thing they could do.
Or it might just be a new trauma center for wii (port of under the knife 2) or something. I'd be a bit disappointed.
But Atlus USA doesn't develop games.
Voodoo
07-10-2008, 08:13 PM
Unless there is some previously unannounced megaten, or some such, this would be the biggest thing they could do.
Or it might just be a new trauma center for wii (port of under the knife 2) or something. I'd be a bit disappointed.
But Atlus USA doesn't develop games.
No one said they do.
I guess their "big news" was LA2. Oh well, maybe next time.
Olethros
07-11-2008, 07:45 AM
^ Love the new sig., Sei.
Thanks!. I've been inspired to allow a greater part of the
ethereal artist, Muse to flow through me, of recent chronology.
That would be murbly, standing before her dwelling,
in both the physical and metaphysical sense. Her size
grown quite a bit, she can no longer comfortably fit in.
'Cept in those circumstances when the outlying plane of
existence in her immediate surrounding would be of a
temperature displeasing her, in which circumstance
with methods unspecified she would fit herself in.
So cute.
~Chuu
Zeether
07-11-2008, 10:29 PM
More like Super Battletoads Taisen Original Generation
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 01:53 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
RayFoxSith
07-14-2008, 01:56 PM
Looks like you're already there. :wink:
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 02:01 PM
Looks like you're already there. :wink:Well, I earned it.
Olethros
07-14-2008, 02:04 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
Hold on a minute here. There are Draglade fans?
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 02:17 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
Hold on a minute here. There are Draglade fans?
No there isn't.
Olethros
07-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Oh good. The world makes sense again!
Sayckeone
07-14-2008, 02:22 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 02:41 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Kakizaki
07-14-2008, 02:45 PM
^Just drop it dude. It is going to go nowhere fast.
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 02:46 PM
^Just drop it dude. It is going to go nowhere fast.
Actually this could be funny.
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 02:47 PM
^Just drop it dude. It is going to go nowhere fast.Drop what?
DamnedToBeFree
07-14-2008, 02:51 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a181/DamnedToBeFree/blah/34.gif
James Fiend, we hardly knew ye.
Olethros
07-14-2008, 02:52 PM
^Just drop it dude. It is going to go nowhere fast.
Listen to him; he speaks truth.
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 02:58 PM
I appreciate the warnings, guys, but I don't think I've violated any terms of service yet. If I have, the moderators don't seem too shy here about letting people know.
PS I like Super Robot Taisen more than Etrian Odyssey, even though fantasy RPGs are so rare and unique on the DS.
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 02:59 PM
I appreciate the warnings, guys, but I don't think I've violated any terms of service yet. If I have, the moderators don't seem too shy here about letting people know.
PS I like Super Robot Taisen more than Etrian Odyssey, even though fantasy RPGs are so rare and unique on the DS.
Oh jeez
MoogleGunner
07-14-2008, 06:21 PM
Wait... liking strategy RPGs more than regular RPGs is "Oh Geez" material now?
RayFoxSith
07-14-2008, 06:51 PM
Strategy RPGs tend to have more depth than the regular RPGs you see.
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 07:28 PM
Wait... liking strategy RPGs more than regular RPGs is "Oh Geez" material now?
Actually I made that comment due to what I expected Saycke to say in response. Thanks for playing though, better luck next time.
Sayckeone
07-14-2008, 07:33 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Hey, bro. You're the one who first wanted to make fun of others, so anything I say to you is warranted.
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 07:35 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Actually its internet tough guy and Dual has that copyrighted.
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 08:02 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Hey, bro. You're the one who first wanted to make fun of others, so anything I say to you is warranted.Using the term "bro" is never warranted.
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Actually its internet tough guy and Dual has that copyrighted.
I like "internet tough guy" it was good times.
Sayckeone
07-14-2008, 08:53 PM
I registered to post about this but after reading through the thread, I guess that sort of thing is beneath this forum.
How high does my post count need to be before I can make fun of Draglade fans?
SRT fans have no right to make fun of Draglade fans. I, however, have the right to make fun of you.Oh no, internet bully. I better play dead.
Hey, bro. You're the one who first wanted to make fun of others, so anything I say to you is warranted.Using the term "bro" is never warranted.
Using bro is always warranted.
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 09:02 PM
Using bro is always warranted.I see you trying to flank me.
Sayckeone
07-14-2008, 10:00 PM
^What was the point of that?
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm not here to answer your questions. I'm here to learn more about super robots that taisen on the PS2.
Sayckeone
07-14-2008, 10:05 PM
^I wasn't talking to you. Constraint deleted his post.
Voodoo
07-14-2008, 10:09 PM
I'm here to learn more about super robots that taisen on the PS2.
HAHAHA
James Fiend
07-14-2008, 10:15 PM
^I wasn't talking to you. Constraint deleted his post.Oh. Your carat misled me.
@Voodoo
Thx m8, I find that comedy is in the timing.
Olethros
07-15-2008, 09:28 AM
Looks like Voodoo made a new friend. I'm happy for Voodoo. :D
Voodoo
07-15-2008, 09:32 AM
Looks like Voodoo made a new friend. I'm happy for Voodoo. :D
Oddly im not :?
Olethros
07-15-2008, 10:10 AM
^ LOL.
Page 19. Only one more to go!! :shock:
^And then what? Onwards to Page 30?
Olethros
07-15-2008, 10:47 AM
Haven't thought that far ahead yet. :?
James Fiend
07-15-2008, 10:53 AM
All this support for Super Robots brings a tear to my eye.
Come on Atlus it's E3, announce something already :P
Like some kinda box with Original Generation, Gaiden and some customizable robot action figure with led lights for eyes.
Futomimi
07-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Atlus isn't attending E3 this year....
Sayckeone
07-15-2008, 07:20 PM
Yeah. They turned their back on us and got in bed with the anime fans.
Voodoo
07-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Yeah. They turned their back on us and got in bed with the anime fans.
But at least we saw it coming miles away.
James Fiend
07-15-2008, 07:31 PM
I might be wrong, but I imagine most of the people who shell out for E3 aren't looking for the two year old PS2 Japanese rpgs. Anime conventions are a much better option.
^ They said in the last newsletter that they weren't done announcing things.
And SRT is something they could announce. Coincidence? I think not.
MoogleGunner
07-15-2008, 08:09 PM
It's a bit of a stretch. Personally, I've given up hope. If you want it that badly learn Japanese, it shouldn't take more than a year or two with dedicated study, and you'll be able to play the rest of the games too.
Onion of Mystery
07-15-2008, 08:32 PM
Atlus isn't attending E3 this year....
Because we were at E3 last year, and it got us jack squat that we couldn't have done better with a series of newsletters. We decided not to waste our money again and instead send our information to the news sites and the fans directly, instead of waiting for journalists to wander past.
Kakizaki
07-15-2008, 08:34 PM
^I don't think anyone is blaming you guys for not going.
Chronis
07-15-2008, 08:37 PM
I know I'm not. I remember even posting somewhere that it wouldn't be worth the money to get barely any coverage.
Raidou11
07-15-2008, 08:37 PM
^I don't think anyone is blaming you guys for not going.
Futomimi
07-15-2008, 09:13 PM
Atlus isn't attending E3 this year....
Because we were at E3 last year, and it got us jack squat that we couldn't have done better with a series of newsletters. We decided not to waste our money again and instead send our information to the news sites and the fans directly, instead of waiting for journalists to wander past.
Yeah, I know that E3 sucks now, especially for the smaller guys. I was just informing the person who apparently wasn't aware that you guys were skipping it.
James Fiend
07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
^ They said in the last newsletter that they weren't done announcing things.
And SRT is something they could announce. Coincidence? I think not.It probably is a coincidence. Some will disagree, but OGs for PS2 is the kind of thing that actually would benefit from something like E3, what with the big shiny explosions and lasers. I find joy in many Atlus products, but Persona and Super Robot Taisen seem easiest to market.
randar23rhenn
07-15-2008, 11:47 PM
"Okay, it feels like we're always ending these blasts the same way, but here goes: Faithful... We're not done announcing titles for this year. We know, it's crazy. More to come in the near future, of course. Near future? Could that be a hint? OMG!"
I know this is a ridiculous stretch but: Near Future... could it be... SRT: OGs?!
Kakizaki
07-15-2008, 11:49 PM
Super Robot Taisen seem easiest to market.
How?
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 12:08 AM
Super Robot Taisen seem easiest to market.
How?2D robots making big explosions catches the eye. Whether people would actually go on to enjoy the game is another debate, but the big colorful over the top action scenes are more immediately impressive as an advertisement than say, a scene from Growlanser.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 12:27 AM
^Except for the fact that mecha hardly hold any sway in the U.S. People may enjoy the display, but it would have zero resonance as far as the product is concerned.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 01:28 AM
^Except for the fact that mecha hardly hold any sway in the U.S. People may enjoy the display, but it would have zero resonance as far as the product is concerned.Maybe, maybe not. I think mech games tend to appeal to a slightly wider variety of people than other niche games, but once they found out that it was a tactical rpg, there would probably be some people who were let down.
Constraint
07-16-2008, 02:10 AM
Atlus isn't attending E3 this year....
Because we were at E3 last year, and it got us jack squat that we couldn't have done better with a series of newsletters. We decided not to waste our money again and instead send our information to the news sites and the fans directly, instead of waiting for journalists to wander past.
Please, a hint of SRT: OGS.
say something.
MoogleGunner
07-16-2008, 08:19 AM
Technically, they already gave us a hint.
Okay, it feels like we're always ending these blasts the same way, but here goes: Faithful... We're not done announcing titles for this year. We know, it's crazy. More to come in the near future, of course. Near future? Could that be a hint? OMG!
The question is, of course, what game are they making, and how have the veiled it?
Reading the first letters, which they did before with Yggdra gives us:
O, i f l w a e t b t s w, b h g: F... W n d a t f t y. W k, i c. M t c i t n f, o c. N f? C t b a h? O<MG>!
Reading all of the last letters gives us:
y, t s e e s g e s e e y, t e s: l... e t e g s r s r. e w, s y. e o e n e r , f e. r e? d t e a t? <OM>G!
This gives us a little more, mainly the apperance of SEES right at the beginning, but Persona 3 is over and done with, and as you can see, e and s are rather common word enders in English, so I'm not convinced.
That's all of the obvious things. Of course, if we knew the resolution of the computer AtlusAram originally typed this on, as well as the program, we could look for line starters and enders, but we don't really have that option, lending us only to being able to take the above lines and go through them looking for evidence of OGS. The first letters option gives us something, namely the section before the colon starts with 'o' and ends with 'g', which COULD correspond to Original and Generation, but that is a rather deeply veiled hint, so I think we can safely throw it out, though I post it just in case that is revealed to be a hint.
Last letters has a sequence that says 'fe,re' but that' not really useful, unless they're working with Nintendo on New Shadow Dragons and Sword of Light. Of course, there are several other options where this hint could be, I could apply several rotation algorithms or other cryptoanalytical schemes, and eventually, I'd be guaranteed to find a hint... but in this case, I think it's safe to say that any of those things are incredibly unlikely.
Of course, I think it's clear that we already have a hint, meta, that is: The OG Board and this Topic still remain 2 years after the release of the games, one of which is in a near constant state of breaking the rules: People are either off topic or lobbying in it, and the other has less than 50 posts. The fact that both remain is perhaps the greatest indicator that they plan on translating another part of the series, for which their options are OGS, OGG, and the new DS one.
Kid Marin
07-16-2008, 09:01 AM
I don't know if SRT OG PS2 will be released in NA, but NISA has an interesting announcement planned for september-october:
NIS America also discussed with us two upcoming titles that we can't tell you about quite yet.
[...]
The second won't even be announced until September or October, but Jack says that, "a lot of the hardcore RPG fans will [enjoy the announcement]," and that the series has been around in Japan for a couple of generations.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1285.html
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 09:35 AM
I don't know if SRT OG PS2 will be released in NA, but NISA has an interesting announcement planned for september-october:
NIS America also discussed with us two upcoming titles that we can't tell you about quite yet.
[...]
The second won't even be announced until September or October, but Jack says that, "a lot of the hardcore RPG fans will [enjoy the announcement]," and that the series has been around in Japan for a couple of generations.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1285.html
Hmm... now THAT is truly interesting. I'll keep track of this. Thanks alot for the source.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 10:17 AM
^Except for the fact that mecha hardly hold any sway in the U.S. People may enjoy the display, but it would have zero resonance as far as the product is concerned.Maybe, maybe not. I think mech games tend to appeal to a slightly wider variety of people than other niche games, but once they found out that it was a tactical rpg, there would probably be some people who were let down.
I think you are over estimating their appeal. Look at Front Mission. The last two out in the U.S. dropped in price rather quickly. Front Mission 4 was $14.99 a few months after its release.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 10:19 AM
^Except for the fact that mecha hardly hold any sway in the U.S. People may enjoy the display, but it would have zero resonance as far as the product is concerned.Maybe, maybe not. I think mech games tend to appeal to a slightly wider variety of people than other niche games, but once they found out that it was a tactical rpg, there would probably be some people who were let down.
I think you are over estimating their appeal. Look at Front Mission. The last two out in the U.S. dropped in price rather quickly. Front Mission 4 was $14.99 a few months after its release.
You forgot to mention how much better the front mission series is.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 10:22 AM
^That is true as well. If a quality series can't sell, well then.
System_Error
07-16-2008, 11:06 AM
I don't know if SRT OG PS2 will be released in NA, but NISA has an interesting announcement planned for september-october:
NIS America also discussed with us two upcoming titles that we can't tell you about quite yet.
[...]
The second won't even be announced until September or October, but Jack says that, "a lot of the hardcore RPG fans will [enjoy the announcement]," and that the series has been around in Japan for a couple of generations.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1285.html
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 11:23 AM
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
No.
That sentence sounds way too introductory for it to be speaking of sequels to games they have already released. Not to mention, AT and MK aren't of the Atelier series... they are only similar in spirit.
Constraint
07-16-2008, 11:27 AM
I don't know if SRT OG PS2 will be released in NA, but NISA has an interesting announcement planned for september-october:
NIS America also discussed with us two upcoming titles that we can't tell you about quite yet.
[...]
The second won't even be announced until September or October, but Jack says that, "a lot of the hardcore RPG fans will [enjoy the announcement]," and that the series has been around in Japan for a couple of generations.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1285.html
Yeah, that's either a tales game(highly unlikely) or it's definately Super Robot Taisen Original Generations, because the series has been in Japan for a couple generations.
Purgeon
07-16-2008, 11:35 AM
As much as Id like to think that it was, they said hardcore RPG fans. While Super Robot Wars is an RPG, i really wouldnt call it hardcore. I'm not getting my hopes up.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't know if SRT OG PS2 will be released in NA, but NISA has an interesting announcement planned for september-october:
NIS America also discussed with us two upcoming titles that we can't tell you about quite yet.
[...]
The second won't even be announced until September or October, but Jack says that, "a lot of the hardcore RPG fans will [enjoy the announcement]," and that the series has been around in Japan for a couple of generations.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1285.html
Yeah, that's either a tales game(highly unlikely) or it's definately Super Robot Taisen Original Generations, because the series has been in Japan for a couple generations.
Yeah because Tales of and SRT are the only series that have been out in japan for generations
Olethros
07-16-2008, 11:53 AM
YES!!!
Page 20!!!!!! :P
Kid Marin
07-16-2008, 12:07 PM
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
By the way it is formulated, it sounds like new territory for NISA. I'm thinking about something like SRT, Sakura Taisen or Summon Night.
Hmm I know Atlus isn't at E3 this year, I was just saying they could take the momentum to announce something. To be honest, it was mostly wishful thinking on my part.
Although if you take off the "M" in "OMG" you do get "OG".
Constraint
07-16-2008, 12:16 PM
As much as Id like to think that it was, they said hardcore RPG fans. While Super Robot Wars is an RPG, i really wouldnt call it hardcore. I'm not getting my hopes up.
Um, it is hardcore. :roll:
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
By the way it is formulated, it sounds like new territory for NISA. I'm thinking about something like SRT, Sakura Taisen or Summon Night.
I agree. I hope its SRT but I'd like either of the mentioned options.
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 12:58 PM
Although if you take off the "M" in "OMG" you do get "OG".
:roll:
Constraint
07-16-2008, 01:03 PM
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
By the way it is formulated, it sounds like new territory for NISA. I'm thinking about something like SRT, Sakura Taisen or Summon Night.
right, but Summon night isn't even about the future.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 01:27 PM
Tengai Makyou.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 02:14 PM
Have there been ports of SMT 1 and 2 to the PSP or DS? Near future makes me think of 202X.
It would be nice if it was an OG, though.
MoogleGunner
07-16-2008, 02:19 PM
They could be being sarcastic about it being a hint, and they're actually ruling out games set in the modern era, which opens up Elimage and OGs as Fantasy and Sci Fi games =/
Sanctine
07-16-2008, 03:30 PM
Tengai Makyou.
I hope to hell. Please god, let it be true.
But SRT is unlikely, and Tales is a plain no. Sakura Taisen is a possibility, but also unlikely. Summon Night is the most probable.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 04:08 PM
Tengai Makyou.
I hope to hell. Please god, let it be true.
But SRT is unlikely, and Tales is a plain no. Sakura Taisen is a possibility, but also unlikely. Summon Night is the most probable.I thought the whole Bandai Namco thing was the reason SRT was unlikely. Wouldn't that also apply to Summon Night?
Sanctine
07-16-2008, 04:12 PM
I thought the whole Bandai Namco thing was the reason SRT was unlikely. Wouldn't that also apply to Summon Night?
Anyone who discloses a reason as to why SRT hasn't gotten a release here is bull####ting. The only people who would know the reason are the ones who have been involved with the game in the past, and they care too much about their jobs to tell anyone.
And NISA has (allegedly) picked up Ar Tonelico II, so Summon Night is extremely possible, seeing as they were both Banpresto games acquired by Namco.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 04:18 PM
Atelier has been around for 2 generations, so I would expect it to be Mana Khemia 2 and AT2
By the way it is formulated, it sounds like new territory for NISA. I'm thinking about something like SRT, Sakura Taisen or Summon Night.
right, but Summon night isn't even about the future.That's debatable. It's really more like "alternate universe" but the whole steampunk thing isn't such a big stretch.
And Sanctine, I hope you're right. I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Sanctine
07-16-2008, 04:25 PM
I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Honestly, I hope not. I hope SRT is dead and gone here.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 04:30 PM
I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Honestly, I hope not. I hope SRT is dead and gone here.
Ditto.
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Word.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 04:48 PM
I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Honestly, I hope not. I hope SRT is dead and gone here.
Amen
Well, If Ar Tonelico II is possible, then SRT would be as well, Banpresto and all.
Who knows, might be the case. There is a lot of interest in these games too, more than I would think is in things like Master of the Monster lair and Ontamarama, but who knows.
And I guess there is also the very vocal group that hates everything. But a few of them hated Disgaea, and Persona 3 as well, and those did fine saleswise, so I wouldn't take their opinions as indicative of overall public interest or support.
Personally I'd pick up both, or either game Day one.
That is more than I could say about Zoids, OD, Master of the Monster lair , Dokapon or... pretty much every other Atlus announced release announced thus far other than Trauma Center and Yggdra Union.
LordGeo
07-16-2008, 05:57 PM
I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Honestly, I hope not. I hope SRT is dead and gone here.
Amen
Does that mean that if Atlus was to announce SRT OGs and/or OG Gaiden then Sanctine, Voodoo, Kakizaki, and Sayckeone would do something extreme?
Now I REALLY want Atlus to bring over more SRT... I want to see what those four would do if it happened...
MoogleGunner
07-16-2008, 05:58 PM
I like the job Atlus did with SRT so hopefully it's still an option.
Honestly, I hope not. I hope SRT is dead and gone here.
Ditto.
Yeah, but you guys also hope the entire Megaten series is dead and gone here.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 06:30 PM
Some people won't be happy until RPGs go back to the days where an event happens and you get a prompt that says "READ PAGE 17: MAN IN HAT APPEARS"
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 06:34 PM
^No.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 06:42 PM
^No.No, you won't be happy, or no, you don't want super-duper old school rpgs? I'm starting to question just how hardcore you are that you won't read a book with your game.
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 06:47 PM
No, as in, you have no idea what you're talking about.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 07:15 PM
No, as in, you have no idea what you're talking about.Yes I do.
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 07:17 PM
No, you don't. I'm not arguing with you, bro. You have no idea what any of us like, so please don't act like you do.
What do you guys like? Like, name your top 5 rpgs. Might as well stay off-topic...
We're going on 30 pages whoo!
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 07:27 PM
No, you don't. I'm not arguing with you, bro. You have no idea what any of us like, so please don't act like you do.Oh, sorry bro. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Hitoshura says that this is how people are supposed to be on the internet but I guess I overdid it. Hugs and kisses.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 07:28 PM
What do you guys like? Like, name your top 5 rpgs. Might as well stay off-topic...
We're going on 30 pages whoo!Who is staying off-topic? The discussion has somewhat veered back to whether this might be announced.
Sayckeone
07-16-2008, 07:32 PM
I'll give you my top five from last gen, in no particular order:
Shin Megami Tensei 3
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Final Fantasy XII
Dragon Quest VIII
Romancing SaGa
If I went with overall, I wouldn't be able to compile a definitive top five list.
Oh, sorry bro. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Hitoshura says that this is how people are supposed to be on the internet but I guess I overdid it. Hugs and kisses.
You're ridiculous. I'm through talking to you.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 07:32 PM
Im all for this thing staying off topic.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 07:35 PM
You're ridiculous. I'm through talking to you.COMMU BREAK
^ Don't get too nasty or the powers that be will close the thread and then it will never be 30 pages.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 07:57 PM
^ Don't get too nasty or the powers that be will close the thread and then it will never be 30 pages.
Im ok with that too
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 07:59 PM
^ Don't get too nasty or the powers that be will close the thread and then it will never be 30 pages.I might be wrong, but I don't think I've stood out as being nasty at any point. I've been called stupid, full of ####, dim and ridiculous but I guess it was out of step to say that some people would rather play old games. I'll try and keep my vicious streak in check.
On topic, how long ago did OG come out in Japan? I'm wondering if the ship hasn't already sailed on localization.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 08:07 PM
OG came out last year in June.
It isn't too late. Far from it. But don't only rely on Atlus to get the job done.
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
^ Don't get too nasty or the powers that be will close the thread and then it will never be 30 pages.I might be wrong, but I don't think I've stood out as being nasty at any point. I've been called stupid, full of ####, dim and ridiculous but I guess it was out of step to say that some people would rather play old games. I'll try and keep my vicious streak in check.
On topic, how long ago did OG come out in Japan? I'm wondering if the ship hasn't already sailed on localization.
^ Oh, I apologize if I sounded like I thought you were being nasty, I did not intend to convey anything of the sort.
I was just saying that the powers that be enjoy closing threads, and as Voodoo said (jokingly?), some people wouldn't mind getting this thread locked.
It wasn't adressed at you in particular, but rather, reasonable people that don't get off on trolling people with niche tastes at a niche jrpg company's forums.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
So we have ancient tastes simply because we dont care for this piece of #### series? please remove your head from your ass before posting again.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 08:13 PM
I was just saying that the powers that be enjoy closing threads, and as Voodoo said (jokingly?), some people wouldn't mind getting this thread locked.
I was far from joking about that.
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 08:23 PM
[quote=James Fiend]
^ Oh, I apologize if I sounded like I thought you were being nasty, I did not intend to convey anything of the sort.
I was just saying that the powers that be enjoy closing threads, and as Voodoo said (jokingly?), some people wouldn't mind getting this thread locked.
It wasn't adressed at you in particular, but rather, reasonable people that don't get off on trolling people with niche tastes at a niche jrpg company's forums.You're right.
@ Jonboy
Only June? That's not too bad then. Do you know anything about the DS game that came out/is coming out? I played around with SRW W and the series looked surprisingly good on the DS.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 08:28 PM
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
So we have ancient tastes simply because we dont care for this piece of #### series? please remove your head from your ass before posting again.
...So you acknowledge your membership in the Fantastic Foursome?
I'd be fine with that.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
So we have ancient tastes simply because we dont care for this piece of #### series? please remove your head from your ass before posting again.
...So you acknowledge your membership in the Fantastic Foursome?
I'd be fine with that.
Where do these tools come from? What is it about P3 and SRW that turns people into idiots?
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 08:32 PM
[quote=James Fiend]
^ Oh, I apologize if I sounded like I thought you were being nasty, I did not intend to convey anything of the sort.
I was just saying that the powers that be enjoy closing threads, and as Voodoo said (jokingly?), some people wouldn't mind getting this thread locked.
It wasn't adressed at you in particular, but rather, reasonable people that don't get off on trolling people with niche tastes at a niche jrpg company's forums.You're right.
@ Jonboy
Only June? That's not too bad then. Do you know anything about the DS game that came out/is coming out? I played around with SRW W and the series looked surprisingly good on the DS.
Yeah, they look great on the DS. I've heard about this spin-off sort of game, but that's about it (Not sure if that's what you're talking about though). It isn't anything like SRT gameplay-wise but it sorta takes place in the same universe. I'm far from a good source though so I'd check the GameFAQs boards to see if there's info if I were you.
Futomimi
07-16-2008, 08:32 PM
Big boobed witches? Oh wait, that's that one other game.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 08:33 PM
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
So we have ancient tastes simply because we dont care for this piece of #### series? please remove your head from your ass before posting again.
...So you acknowledge your membership in the Fantastic Foursome?
I'd be fine with that.
Where do these tools come from? What is it about P3 and SRW that turns people into idiots?
I'm no idiot, Human Torch. You're just mad.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 08:43 PM
Hey James Fiend, you and I should stay on topic for the sake of our beloved thread.
Have you imported OGs? I've actually went backwards and imported OG Gaiden first since it was on sale. I plan on buying OGs at some point to experience what came before.
TheMagicHat
07-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Geez. A couple of little tidbits on Atlus Faithful and RPGFan and the thread explodes.
Well, if a couple pages in one day can be considered exploding... >_>;
I'm still of two minds on this. Personaly, I'd love to own an english version of OGs/OGG. However, knowing how passionate certain parts of the SRT fandom get about "their" game getting "butchered" in another language, I am worried. Hell, things seem ugly enough HERE between the fans and non-fans right now. >_>;
I'm glad I live on the lower level of my apartment building. If SRT OGs does end up being the title the Atlus or NISA bring over, the fallout could be devastating.
Hell, I'll just keep watching for comments from Sayckeone, Voodoo, etc just to stay amused.
Kakizaki
07-16-2008, 09:02 PM
Yeah, but you guys also hope the entire Megaten series is dead and gone here.
Not one of us ever said anything even remotely close to that.
DamnedToBeFree
07-16-2008, 09:06 PM
Wow...
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 09:15 PM
Hey James Fiend, you and I should stay on topic for the sake of our beloved thread.
Have you imported OGs? I've actually went backwards and imported OG Gaiden first since it was on sale. I plan on buying OGs at some point to experience what came before.I'll wait a bit longer before I start modifying my PS2. I've been playing the fan translation of SRW3 and I applied to edit for SRW Alpha. I think they are still taking requests at the Aeon Genesis site if you check the front page.
To some degree I actually like OG more than the crossover series, as the crossover series can get extremely crowded. Even so, W seemed really good and I heard the PSP one is fun too.
I guess since I know the story already, it probably wouldn't be such a big thing to import the OGs. I know Chinese so gameplay is rarely a problem for the imports.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 09:18 PM
Of course, the Fantastic Foursome would love to hear that the ship has sailed so that there's room for their ancient tastes.
So we have ancient tastes simply because we dont care for this piece of #### series? please remove your head from your ass before posting again.
...So you acknowledge your membership in the Fantastic Foursome?
I'd be fine with that.
Where do these tools come from? What is it about P3 and SRW that turns people into idiots?
I'm no idiot, Human Torch. You're just mad.
Im sorry but your lame attempts at witty humor just prove what a Tool you are. You think way to highly of yourself if you think your capable of making me mad.
Hell, I'll just keep watching for comments from Sayckeone, Voodoo, etc just to stay amused. Glad you enjoy them, Keep checking back because theres bound to be plenty more.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 09:43 PM
Im sorry but your lame attempts at witty humor just prove what a Tool you are. You think way to highly of yourself if you think your capable of making me mad.
lol...
You use the word "tool" so you're lame by default. Time to take a backseat, Johnny. I'm trying to stay on topic here. Go that way.
James Fiend: I have Alpha Gaiden, and I can't wait until Aeon Genesis finishes translating it. You'd ought to look into that as well, though it's pretty difficult.
I think the crossover series are awesome in their own right, but the OG games are quite special too. You're right though... they can get a little crowded. I know nothing of Japanese or Chinese so I'm reading up on the OG story to stay in the know as I play the games.
SickleCellAnemia
07-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Wow...
James Fiend
07-16-2008, 09:54 PM
I have Alpha Gaiden, and I can't wait until Aeon Genesis finishes translating it. You'd ought to look into that as well, though it's pretty difficult.
I think the crossover series are awesome in their own right, but the OG games are quite special too. You're right though... they can get a little crowded. I know nothing of Japanese or Chinese so I'm reading up on the OG story to stay in the know as I play the games.Do you mean I should look into Alpha or translating games? I intend to learn Japanese once I'm more comfortable with Chinese (Asian Language is my college minor) so fan translations will eventually be good practice.
If you mean that Alpha is hard, I'll find that out once the fan translation gets edited. There is a surprising amount of text for these games.
Jonboy
07-16-2008, 09:59 PM
Heh, sorry... I should've made that clearer but I'm speaking of the difficulty of @Gaiden itself.
Translating? Whoo boy... I don't have the slightest clue on how that works. I leave that to the experts. One of them is on the srwg site giving updates on the Alpha Gaiden project though there hasn't been an update in months.
But yeah, if you ever have the opportunity to get @Gaiden, I'd check it out. The translation is going to take quite a bit more time before it's done. Youtube has a demo video from Aeon Genesis showing Alpha Gaiden running in English. Check that out too.
Voodoo
07-16-2008, 11:23 PM
Im sorry but your lame attempts at witty humor just prove what a Tool you are. You think way to highly of yourself if you think your capable of making me mad.
lol...
You use the word "tool" so you're lame by default. Time to take a backseat, Johnny. I'm trying to stay on topic here. Go that way.
Seeing as you've sunk to nothing more then "no im not you are" comments i'm going to call this done as well.
Sanctine
07-17-2008, 03:31 AM
Does that mean that if Atlus was to announce SRT OGs and/or OG Gaiden then Sanctine, Voodoo, Kakizaki, and Sayckeone would do something extreme?
Now I REALLY want Atlus to bring over more SRT... I want to see what those four would do if it happened...
Not buying a game can be TOTALLY EXTREME!!!!
Voodoo
07-17-2008, 09:23 AM
Does that mean that if Atlus was to announce SRT OGs and/or OG Gaiden then Sanctine, Voodoo, Kakizaki, and Sayckeone would do something extreme?
Now I REALLY want Atlus to bring over more SRT... I want to see what those four would do if it happened...
Not buying a game can be TOTALLY EXTREME!!!!
Yeah we're kinda CRAZY like that.
Sayckeone
07-17-2008, 10:10 AM
TOTALLY WACKY!!!
Shunyata
07-17-2008, 02:35 PM
R.I.P. David Tennant
You were the best Doctor.
Hmmm Aeon Genesis is still translating Alpha Gaiden??? I thought they quit considering they have been translating the game since 2003.
Sayckeone
07-17-2008, 02:41 PM
R.I.P. David Tennant
You were the best Doctor.
What are you talking about? He's not dead.
James Fiend
07-17-2008, 02:45 PM
R.I.P. David Tennant
You were the best Doctor.
Hmmm Aeon Genesis is still translating Alpha Gaiden??? I thought they quit considering they have been translating the game since 2003.Gideon posted updates for Alpha and Alpha Gaiden within the past few weeks.
R.I.P. David Tennant
You were the best Doctor.
Good night sweet prince.
RayFoxSith
07-17-2008, 03:14 PM
WHAT THE #### IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
Futomimi
07-17-2008, 03:44 PM
Yeah uh... what?
DamnedToBeFree
07-17-2008, 03:59 PM
YOU"RE LYING!!!
Futomimi
07-17-2008, 07:25 PM
ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why does everyone defy me? :(
DamnedToBeFree
07-17-2008, 07:42 PM
If you google "R.I.P. David Tennant", a link to this thread will pop up on the first page.
Sayckeone
07-17-2008, 08:06 PM
Let me try.
Sayckeone is awesome.
EDIT: That didn't work. :(
SickleCellAnemia
07-17-2008, 08:17 PM
Why does everyone defy me? :(
How dare you defy Atlus!! You'll all pay!!! :twisted:
Constraint
07-17-2008, 09:08 PM
Is AtlusAram from Arabia?
DamnedToBeFree
07-17-2008, 09:14 PM
Yes.
Voodoo
07-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Is AtlusAram from Arabia?
No he's from the Dell factory.
James Fiend
07-18-2008, 02:02 AM
Heh, sorry... I should've made that clearer but I'm speaking of the difficulty of @Gaiden itself.
Translating? Whoo boy... I don't have the slightest clue on how that works. I leave that to the experts. One of them is on the srwg site giving updates on the Alpha Gaiden project though there hasn't been an update in months.
But yeah, if you ever have the opportunity to get @Gaiden, I'd check it out. The translation is going to take quite a bit more time before it's done. Youtube has a demo video from Aeon Genesis showing Alpha Gaiden running in English. Check that out too.I hope the editor of Alpha Gaiden keeps the terms and names from the Atlus localization. Gideon gave out a test block of dialogue for would be editors and Grungusts are Grungasts. :-(
He also keeps the u in names like Ryouma. Hopefully that's just his rough draft and not his preference.
^ Well, he did say that it was a mess and he needed a good editor, so I wouldn't worry too much, his stuff is usually pretty good.
James Fiend
07-18-2008, 06:36 AM
^ Well, he did say that it was a mess and he needed a good editor, so I wouldn't worry too much, his stuff is usually pretty good.Based on his translations of SRW1 and 3, his overuse of people yelling "FUUUUUUUCK!" when their mechs explode, while not improbable, does feel out of place.
^ I'd probably yell #### if my mech exploded. A few times even.
Even if not ####, it would most likely be a strong expleitive to show my displeasure with the whole situation.
James Fiend
07-18-2008, 09:58 AM
^ I'd probably yell #### if my mech exploded. A few times even.
Even if not ####, it would most likely be a strong expleitive to show my displeasure with the whole situation.Yeah, I know, but given the atmosphere of mecha anime, most from the 70s, it's pretty odd. Plus the whole videogame thing. Like, I'm sure getting hit with an arrow sucks, but most of the RPGs that get localized don't have your elf warrior screaming obscenities.
Constraint
07-18-2008, 02:35 PM
^ I'd probably yell #### if my mech exploded. A few times even.
Even if not ####, it would most likely be a strong expleitive to show my displeasure with the whole situation.Yeah, I know, but given the atmosphere of mecha anime, most from the 70s, it's pretty odd. Plus the whole videogame thing. Like, I'm sure getting hit with an arrow sucks, but most of the RPGs that get localized don't have your elf warrior screaming obscenities.
So your one of those guys who gets mad over changed localized names :roll: .
James Fiend
07-18-2008, 05:11 PM
^ I'd probably yell #### if my mech exploded. A few times even.
Even if not ####, it would most likely be a strong expleitive to show my displeasure with the whole situation.Yeah, I know, but given the atmosphere of mecha anime, most from the 70s, it's pretty odd. Plus the whole videogame thing. Like, I'm sure getting hit with an arrow sucks, but most of the RPGs that get localized don't have your elf warrior screaming obscenities.
So your one of those guys who gets mad over changed localized names :roll: .Uh, do I seem mad? I said that it would be nice if the fan translation was edited to be more consistent with the content that already exists in English. In none of the crossover anime used in Super Robot Wars do pilots consistently scream obscenities. As for the Ryouma/Ryoma thing, Ryoma is the spelling used in the English version (at least in the new remake, the original never made it here).
But it's a fan translation, so there's really nothing to get "mad" about since you don't pay for the localization.
Constraint
07-18-2008, 07:11 PM
NVM.
It still doesn't matter about names and whatnot. I hate japnophiles. They're born americans, not ####ing americans who hate thier own kind' voices.
James Fiend
07-18-2008, 07:21 PM
NVM.
It still doesn't matter about names and whatnot. I hate japnophiles. They're born americans, not ####ing americans who hate thier own kind' voices.Oh, yeah, I think you misunderstood me. I have no preference for keeping anglo names in kana or not, I just prefer an English translation to be consistent with other works already officially published in that language.
For example, say an anime is released in the west and the main character's name is "Billy." I would find it annoying if one of the games was then fan translated and they decided to go with "Biruri" or whatever the katakana looks like. Same if I played Musashi's Adventure for NES and the translator decided to go with "Mash."
Constraint
07-19-2008, 08:03 PM
NVM.
It still doesn't matter about names and whatnot. I hate japnophiles. They're born americans, not ####ing americans who hate thier own kind' voices.Oh, yeah, I think you misunderstood me. I have no preference for keeping anglo names in kana or not, I just prefer an English translation to be consistent with other works already officially published in that language.
For example, say an anime is released in the west and the main character's name is "Billy." I would find it annoying if one of the games was then fan translated and they decided to go with "Biruri" or whatever the katakana looks like. Same if I played Musashi's Adventure for NES and the translator decided to go with "Mash."
Simply appreciate the fact that it's getting translated.
James Fiend
07-19-2008, 10:54 PM
NVM.
It still doesn't matter about names and whatnot. I hate japnophiles. They're born americans, not ####ing americans who hate thier own kind' voices.Oh, yeah, I think you misunderstood me. I have no preference for keeping anglo names in kana or not, I just prefer an English translation to be consistent with other works already officially published in that language.
For example, say an anime is released in the west and the main character's name is "Billy." I would find it annoying if one of the games was then fan translated and they decided to go with "Biruri" or whatever the katakana looks like. Same if I played Musashi's Adventure for NES and the translator decided to go with "Mash."
Simply appreciate the fact that it's getting translated.Yeah, alright. I'm going to go translate some games and replace the text with random quotes from Shakespearian works now. People better get on their knees.
Shunyata
07-21-2008, 02:12 PM
LOL well for one i was talking about Doctor Who's David Tennant. Yes he did die one way or another........ :?:
As for Alpha and Alpha Gaiden how much is translated so far? The last Patch i had only had the menus and the first 3 lvl's for Alpha Gaiden.
Shunyata
07-21-2008, 02:13 PM
Oh yea and Since we Are not To Far off Topic........ Atlus pleaSe LoacaLize Super Roboto TAisen Original GenErations.
James Fiend
07-21-2008, 05:44 PM
LOL well for one i was talking about Doctor Who's David Tennant. Yes he did die one way or another........ :?:
As for Alpha and Alpha Gaiden how much is translated so far? The last Patch i had only had the menus and the first 3 lvl's for Alpha Gaiden.According to Aeon Genesis, Alpha is 65% done and Alpha Gaiden is 50% done.
Olethros
07-23-2008, 08:58 AM
I love this topic. It has to be the fastest growing forum tumor I've seen in quite some time. Amazing!
randar23rhenn
07-25-2008, 07:48 AM
I'm really hoping this is their "big announcement" they hyped in that one newsletter. Come on ATLUS!
Zeether
07-26-2008, 05:26 AM
You wish :roll:
Constraint
07-26-2008, 01:19 PM
^ Shut the #### up. :oops:
Futomimi
07-26-2008, 01:31 PM
That was mean. :cry:
Voodoo
07-26-2008, 01:49 PM
^ Shut the #### up. :oops:
Try taking your own advice buddy.
sdragon21
07-26-2008, 07:38 PM
:( Dear god, i've been gone for almost 2 months, and this thread is already starting to go down the toilet.
*sigh* I guess me creating this thread was all for nothing...
RayFoxSith
07-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Sorry, this thread was down the toilet ever since it was created.
Voodoo
07-26-2008, 08:33 PM
Sorry, this thread was down the toilet ever since it was created.
Word.
Constraint
07-27-2008, 11:33 PM
^ Shut the #### up. :oops:
Try taking your own advice buddy.
Word.
Raidou11
07-28-2008, 12:17 AM
Oh yea and Since we Are not To Far off Topic........ Atlus pleaSe LoacaLize Super Roboto TAisen Original GenErations.
I thought it was already localized. Atlus had localized the gba versions, but not the ps2 version. Oh well... I support this too.
Purgeon
07-28-2008, 09:46 AM
Oh yea and Since we Are not To Far off Topic........ Atlus pleaSe LoacaLize Super Roboto TAisen Original GenErations.
I thought it was already localized. Atlus had localized the gba versions, but not the ps2 version. Oh well... I support this too.
Don't bother, they burn you at the stake if they see you support the topic of this thread, :roll:
Olethros
07-28-2008, 10:01 AM
Burning at the stake is a bit much. We simply like to point out the error of your ways. :D
Sayckeone
07-28-2008, 10:04 AM
Oh yea and Since we Are not To Far off Topic........ Atlus pleaSe LoacaLize Super Roboto TAisen Original GenErations.
WTF is going on in this post?
Voodoo
07-28-2008, 10:06 AM
Burning at the stake is a bit much. We simply like to point out the error of your ways. :D
Thats because you guys are assholes :roll:
Olethros
07-28-2008, 10:53 AM
^ Voodoo, come on now. Asshole is not the proper term here. Didn't you really mean to say anal sphincters? :P
Futomimi
07-28-2008, 12:40 PM
Oh yea and Since we Are not To Far off Topic........ Atlus pleaSe LoacaLize Super Roboto TAisen Original GenErations.
WTF is going on in this post?
Friends don't let friends fap and post.
Sayckeone
07-28-2008, 01:05 PM
^Hai, Mimo. I watched Inside.
pancakesandsex
07-28-2008, 01:17 PM
Why are people so vehemently opposed to the localization of this title? It's a great game.
I think its a running joke with them. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
Futomimi
07-28-2008, 01:33 PM
^Hai, Mimo. I watched Inside.
I saw! I need to go reply to your post.
^ Mimi I still haven't! :( Too scary!
But I did see Machine Girl which is also bloody but not disturbing!
Futomimi
07-28-2008, 01:38 PM
GO DO IT! (as soon as you're feeling up to it)
edit: I looked up Machine Girl on Netflix and it sounds fun, so I added it to my queue. Thanks!
Sayckeone
07-28-2008, 01:49 PM
Why are people so vehemently opposed to the localization of this title? It's a great game.
If the GBA ones are anything to go by, it's a terrible game.
Voodoo
07-28-2008, 01:52 PM
The GBA ones were crap. If you want a good Mech SRPG go play Front Mission. Go to the Square-Enix forums and lobby for Front Mission 5.
GO DO IT! (as soon as you're feeling up to it)
edit: I looked up Machine Girl on Netflix and it sounds fun, so I added it to my queue. Thanks!
It is! I think you'll like it!.
System_Error
07-28-2008, 02:15 PM
The GBA ones were crap. If you want a good Mech SRPG go play Front Mission. Go to the Square-Enix forums and lobby for Front Mission 5.
Ya for real, we need FM5. DAMN YOU SAYCKE FOR MAKING ME BUY FM1ST. STOP EXPOSING ME TO NEW GAMES BITCH.
Ya, thats my way of saying thanks lol.
Voodoo
07-28-2008, 02:18 PM
The GBA ones were crap. If you want a good Mech SRPG go play Front Mission. Go to the Square-Enix forums and lobby for Front Mission 5.
Ya for real, we need FM5. DAMN YOU SAYCKE FOR MAKING ME BUY FM1ST. STOP EXPOSING ME TO NEW GAMES BITCH.
Ya, thats my way of saying thanks lol.
Now go get FM3 and 4.
How is 4? It reviewed terribly. I actually have it (brother bought for me a few years back) but haven't ever played it. I remember 3 was a bit on the easy/tedious side.
Sayckeone
07-28-2008, 02:26 PM
4 is not bad at all. I never finished it, but I liked it. If you like FM, you'll dig it, otherwise, you might not.
System_Error
07-28-2008, 02:30 PM
The GBA ones were crap. If you want a good Mech SRPG go play Front Mission. Go to the Square-Enix forums and lobby for Front Mission 5.
Ya for real, we need FM5. DAMN YOU SAYCKE FOR MAKING ME BUY FM1ST. STOP EXPOSING ME TO NEW GAMES BITCH.
Ya, thats my way of saying thanks lol.
Now go get FM3 and 4.
I have 4
Voodoo
07-28-2008, 02:31 PM
Ditto on what Saycke said. 3 is better then 4 imo.
Foryth
07-28-2008, 02:42 PM
3 is better then 4 imo.
Indeed. Though I have yet to finish 4.
As a side note, I just read on some romhacking news site that someone started working on an FM5 translation project. :)
Engine_Swordv13
07-28-2008, 03:12 PM
Atlus Hurry Up! The Fans Have Spoken!!! :D
Voodoo
07-28-2008, 03:28 PM
:roll:
I'll prolly give it a spin one of these days then. I liked the DS one.
Constraint
07-30-2008, 01:14 AM
Why are people so vehemently opposed to the localization of this title? It's a great game.
If the GBA ones are anything to go by, it's a terrible game.
Quality, my friend. The PS2 is far better.
pancakesandsex
07-30-2008, 04:07 PM
Why are people so vehemently opposed to the localization of this title? It's a great game.
If the GBA ones are anything to go by, it's a terrible game.
What bothered you? Plot or gameplay?
Gameplay wise SRW is a well oiled machine. They iterate on the formula almost yearly which has given them many opportunities to optimize the interface and add all sorts of little features that make the game play better. There are many many interface improvements and niceties that the PS2 versions add to the equation. If you dislike the core mechanics then so be it, but it's a far, FAR cry from crap. It is quite a different core game than something like front mission, and I wouldn't consider one a replacement for the other. That's like telling someone basketball is a suitable alternative to baseball because they are both sports that use round balls. The rules are too different.
Plot/character wise the game will be pretty hit or miss. Either the tongue in cheek super robot show references and homages will resonate with you like it's the best thing ever, or it will fall completely flat, and this seems to be peoples main problem with the title.
Sayckeone
07-30-2008, 04:19 PM
Everything. It was nothing more than an over the top FE with mecha. FE is boring as ####.
pancakesandsex
07-30-2008, 04:45 PM
Everything. It was nothing more than an over the top FE with mecha. FE is boring as ####.
I haven't played FE, is it honestly similar in any way other than the map screen perspective? From what I understood the core mechanics were quite different.
Either way though, why such opposition to it even coming out for the people who DO enjoy "over the top FE"?
Sayckeone
07-30-2008, 04:51 PM
It's relatively the same ####. Also, because Atlus could be using its resources for better titles.
Futomimi
07-30-2008, 04:53 PM
I don't even really care anymore. It's not like Atlus isn't wasting resources on bug SRPGs and Idea Factory titles.
Voodoo
07-30-2008, 04:56 PM
^True but why encourage them to keep doing it?
Honestly SRT is a lot better than a lot of Atlus titles that get less h8. Ontamarama comes to mind :P/
I really liked SRT. The plot was full of interesting homages, the game ran like an anime show, it wasn't too easy (if doing missions etc) and there was a good amount of content. Sure, it wasn't front mission, but it wasnt that bad.
I'd still day one it.
Olethros
07-31-2008, 08:28 AM
^True but why encourage them to keep doing it?
They'll keep doing it with or without our encouragement.
Constraint
07-31-2008, 11:47 AM
It's relatively the same ####. Also, because Atlus could be using its resources for better titles.
Yes, titles that sell 2000 titles, and lower. :roll:
Voodoo
07-31-2008, 11:50 AM
It's relatively the same ####. Also, because Atlus could be using its resources for better titles.
Yes, titles that sell 2000 titles, and lower. :roll:
No I think he ment titles that don't suck like SRT.
Sayckeone
07-31-2008, 11:53 AM
It's relatively the same ####. Also, because Atlus could be using its resources for better titles.
Yes, titles that sell 2000 titles, and lower. :roll:
Because SRT sold so many copies.
Constraint
07-31-2008, 11:56 AM
The dumbasses decided to release the GBA ones, which everybody didn't give a #### about because of the DS.
Voodoo
07-31-2008, 11:58 AM
LOL calling them dumbasses on their own forum takes stones.
Futomimi
07-31-2008, 12:01 PM
It's relatively the same ####. Also, because Atlus could be using its resources for better titles.
Yes, titles that sell 2000 titles, and lower. :roll:
Yeah, it's too bad that Atlus never releases quality games that actually sell well enough to turn them a profit. BRB, gonna lobby for the EO series to come stateside.
Sayckeone
07-31-2008, 12:04 PM
Excuses, bro. SRT is extremely niche. Even on PS2, it wouldn't have been a huge seller.
Constraint
07-31-2008, 12:07 PM
Hell, you never know, Growlanser 5 sold pretty well here, and it was definitley a bad quality game.
Sayckeone
07-31-2008, 12:12 PM
Growlanswer V was produced in extremely limited quantities, as it was a one print run and will never be printed again. Even if every copy sold, it still did not sell a lot.
Shunyata
07-31-2008, 03:06 PM
SupEr RoboT WARS for LiFe BitChes
Lets get one thing Straight, Front Mission 4 was a giant steaming pile of stinky Gunking ####. It could'nt hold a dildo sized candle to SRW.
Also super robot wars was one of the first Strategy games to come out in japan. SRW must be praised at this fact.
LoCAlize Super RoBot WArs Por FAVor
Voodoo
07-31-2008, 03:11 PM
SupEr RoboT WARS for LiFe BitChes
Lets get one thing Straight, Front Mission 4 was a giant steaming pile of stinky Gunking ####. It could'nt hold a dildo sized candle to SRW.
This is what happens when you smoke crack.
Futomimi
07-31-2008, 03:16 PM
Most creative spammer I've seen yet.
SickleCellAnemia
07-31-2008, 04:18 PM
SupEr RoboT WARS for LiFe BitChes
Lets get one thing Straight, Front Mission 4 was a giant steaming pile of stinky Gunking ####. It could'nt hold a dildo sized candle to SRW.
This is what happens when you smoke crack.
Crack is whack!
Raidou11
08-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Excuses, bro. SRT is extremely niche. Even on PS2, it wouldn't have been a huge seller.
What about the DS?
Constraint
08-04-2008, 07:18 PM
Yes, surprisingly, Rondo Of Swords did well.
Raidou11
08-04-2008, 08:36 PM
Yes, surprisingly, Rondo Of Swords did well.
That game has nothing to do with SRWOG. Rondo of Swords is more of a Izuna spinoff featuring Izuna and Shino.
RayFoxSith
08-04-2008, 08:59 PM
I think he was talking about RoS being a DS game and how it 'did well' even though it was a niche title. I didn't like the game, if you ask me.
Raidou11
08-04-2008, 09:30 PM
I think he was talking about RoS being a DS game and how it 'did well' even though it was a niche title. I didn't like the game, if you ask me.
I see.
Edited: I will buy RoS once I get a DS though. Izuna and Shino looks so much better in this spin-off rather than the original series.
randar23rhenn
08-05-2008, 11:41 AM
time to give up hope. we get the arcana hearts and dokapon kingdoms instead of these types of games from now on
Olethros
08-05-2008, 11:45 AM
I think he was talking about RoS being a DS game and how it 'did well' even though it was a niche title. I didn't like the game, if you ask me.
I actually didn't care for it either, Ray.
Also, Dokapon was a way better choice to bring over than SRT would have been.
randar23rhenn
08-05-2008, 11:47 AM
I think he was talking about RoS being a DS game and how it 'did well' even though it was a niche title. I didn't like the game, if you ask me.
I actually didn't care for it either, Ray.
Also, Dokapon was a way better choice to bring over than SRT would have been.i dont see the logic there
He doesn't like SRT. Also some party games have done well, relatively recently. Probably what he means. This is no accurate forecast of future performance though, and most party games have sunk. Even ones with actual franchises behind them, and being that party games aren't really about the plot, I would think this is one of the few instances where a franchise would help.
I would therefore think that a party game RPG would be a lot more niche than a SRPG similar to fire emblem.
Thus, I would disagree. SRT would be the better choice.
Atlus would seem to believe in the potential of SRPG's as well, with 3 coming, or out for 360 which are ALL (going by reviews) a lot worse than SRT. They however expect to make money, I would assume.
As proof of my reasoning I offer the Metacritic score for SRT 2 (82)http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/gba/superrobottaisenoriginalgeneration2
And that of Operation Darkness (47) http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/operationdarkness?q=operation%20darkness
And, of Spectral Force 3 (59) http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/spectralforce3?q=spectral%20force%203
There is a degree of subjectivity, but this would seem to indicate that, say, SRT 2, is a much better game all things considered than quite a few of Atlus's other strategy releases. Some people didn't like the games, and they are quite vocal, however.
I thought Rondo was okay.
Voodoo
08-05-2008, 12:59 PM
Everyone seems to be forgetting that SRT sucks though.
You musta missed the numbers! They say otherwise!. You might not have liked it, yet it does not sux.
And I likes it!
Voodoo
08-05-2008, 01:07 PM
Thats because game reviewers are ####ing idiots.
*EDIT*
removed comment that would probably get me banned.
Foryth
08-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Edited: I will buy RoS once I get a DS though. Izuna and Shino looks so much better in this spin-off rather than the original series.
I wouldn't call RoS an Izuna spinoff, considering they only make a cameo appearance and you might not even see Izuna at all in the game if you don't unlock Shino first.
I would therefore think that a party game RPG would be a lot more niche than a SRPG similar to fire emblem.
Thus, I would disagree. SRT would be the better choice.
That doesn't necessarily mean that the ROI on SRT would be higher. I imagine there are probably higher/more costs to localizing SRT than Dokapon, Operation Darkness, and Spectral Force 3. One of these might only need to break 1,000 units sold to profit, while SRT could need 100,000 (made up numbers, obviously). I don't think it's correct to compare them on a one to one basis like that.
Hell, Idea Factory probably paid Atlus to localize SF3 themselves!
Raidou11
08-05-2008, 01:26 PM
Dokapon is surely a better choice than SRT, because the characters look cute. \(^x^)/
SRT don't suck, but I find the game to be extra lengthy. I like SRT, even though I rarely play it. Personally, I don't like SRPG gameplay.
Edited: I will buy RoS once I get a DS though. Izuna and Shino looks so much better in this spin-off rather than the original series.
I wouldn't call RoS an Izuna spinoff, considering they only make a cameo appearance and you might not even see Izuna at all in the game if you don't unlock Shino first.
They both look cool in RoS.
^^ Thats true, but we can only go on available public data. Although it is my understanding that SRT didn't do very well on GBA, that might very well have been due to the timing and the platform. From what I know, Yggdra didn't do that well either and it is getting a PSP version localized.
It would be nice if we knew the costs, sales etc to make a better comparison, but I don't think Atlus is gonna wanna release those.
What I find sad, I guess, is that being on the forum for a games company that releases niche games, we get people that attack the niche games that other people like. And then they deliver these opinions as if they were the ultimate truth of the universe when they don't really correspond that well to the available data.
Saying that game X should stay in Japan because you did not like it is awfully insulting and presumptuous to the people that did. Some people don't like the game, we get it. There is really little reason to come here and post everytime you stumble across the thread to remind everyone how little you liked it and how awesome it would be if it didn't exist.
It reminds me of Madden fans lambasting RPG's or whatever isn't to their liking. And it's more than a little sad.
The cool crew running around the niche site determining what is good or not and what others should get to play or not with basis solely on their tastes. Kinda hijacks the whole idea of a niche translation company.
Zantagor
08-06-2008, 07:33 AM
I thought the biggest excuse for the game not coming here now was that it was a Banpresto game which is now own by Namco....
But with the recent announcement of Poison Pink, doesn't that kind of throw out that excuse out the window ;)
Not that I care much anymore having finished the game several times already.
I'd still buy it of course if it would ever come out here.
Ar tonelico 2 too has been announced. Hopefully this means that Banpresto is fair game and either Atlus or Nisa will pick this up.
Raidou11
08-06-2008, 11:37 AM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
System_Error
08-06-2008, 11:52 AM
Magna Carta 2 is a lie
Nisa already announced Ar Tonelico 2, coming out in November or so.
I'd love the ACE games being translated, they are awesome.
Voodoo
08-06-2008, 12:34 PM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
Maybe because the first one was complete garbage. Seriously I would rather play SRT then another Magna Carta.
Raidou11
08-06-2008, 01:40 PM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
Maybe because the first one was complete garbage. Seriously I would rather play SRT then another Magna Carta.
I do realize that many people...mainly in the stateside had a growing hatred for Magna Carta, because the game was more or less visual novel type in a sense. It had a massive amount of voiced dialogues and there aren't enough battle gameplay, but that is not the same thing as sucked. The game is awesome, it easily ran out of print. I still couldn't buy a copy of the game anywhere. Jeez... (-_-)
Voodoo
08-06-2008, 01:48 PM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
Maybe because the first one was complete garbage. Seriously I would rather play SRT then another Magna Carta.
I do realize that many people...mainly in the stateside had a growing hatred for Magna Carta, because the game was more or less visual novel type in a sense. It had a massive amount of voiced dialogues and there aren't enough battle gameplay, but that is not the same thing as sucked. The game is awesome, it easily ran out of print. I still couldn't buy a copy of the game anywhere. Jeez... (-_-)
No the game was garbage. sorry there is no way of getting around it. The gameplay was crap, The story was horrible and the graphics and audio were mediocre at best.
IT had nice art!
But yeah :(
Raidou11
08-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
Maybe because the first one was complete garbage. Seriously I would rather play SRT then another Magna Carta.
I do realize that many people...mainly in the stateside had a growing hatred for Magna Carta, because the game was more or less visual novel type in a sense. It had a massive amount of voiced dialogues and there aren't enough battle gameplay, but that is not the same thing as sucked. The game is awesome, it easily ran out of print. I still couldn't buy a copy of the game anywhere. Jeez... (-_-)
No the game was garbage. sorry there is no way of getting around it. The gameplay was crap, The story was horrible and the graphics and audio were mediocre at best.
Unfortunately, I haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know otherwise.
System_Error
08-06-2008, 02:26 PM
Then don't defend something you have no clue about...
DamnedToBeFree
08-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Banpresto makes a lot of good games, but most of them never show up on the stateside. Quite disappointing..
Some of the good games include: Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi, Super Robot Taisen Z, Another Century's Episode 3, Ar Tonelico II, Super Robot Taisen Original Generations Gaiden, Summon Night 4, and Magna Carta 2.
I think Ar Tonelico 2 will be localized soon though, probably NISA. Magna Carta 2 would possibly be localized as well, since the first game was localized, why not a 360 sequel?
Maybe because the first one was complete garbage. Seriously I would rather play SRT then another Magna Carta.
I do realize that many people...mainly in the stateside had a growing hatred for Magna Carta, because the game was more or less visual novel type in a sense. It had a massive amount of voiced dialogues and there aren't enough battle gameplay, but that is not the same thing as sucked. The game is awesome, it easily ran out of print. I still couldn't buy a copy of the game anywhere. Jeez... (-_-)
No the game was garbage. sorry there is no way of getting around it. The gameplay was crap, The story was horrible and the graphics and audio were mediocre at best.
Unfortunately, I haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know otherwise.
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