Ys: Oath in Felghana - Nihon Falcom - PSP (Action/RPG)

[jeffx]

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Information
Game: Ys: Oath in Felghana
Genre: Action RPG
Platform: Sony PSP
Developer: Nihon Falcom
Official Website: http://www.falcom.com/ysf_psp
JPN Date: 04/22/10
USA Date: ???

Updates
11/27/09: Some enhancements have been revealed! In-game selectable soundtrack (PC-8801/X68000/Original) and a "fully-loaded" Museum (no details). Finally, the events will be completely voiced!
11/26/09: Nihon Falcom just announced Ys: Oath in Felghana for the PSP, a port of a 2005 PC game which in turn is a "remake" (more like re-imagining) of the classic Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (using the Ys VI: Ark of Napishtim 3D engine).

Media
- PSP Trailer (TBA)
- PC Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CJh-RFq4gQ)
- PC gameplay videos (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=oath+in+felghana+gameplay&search_type=&aq=f)
- Screenshots from itmedia (http://gamez.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0911/26/news076.html)
- HG101 article (http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ys/ys5.htm) (based on PC version)


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[MP83]

What can I say? I love the original PC version of the game and would love to see the PSP version getting localized to English. :)

[Enzeru]

Ugh, Ys 6 engine. Still, it'a Ys. Do want. :D Still trying to find a place to get Origins, though. It's a tough world out there. xD

[SomethingDifferent]

Day o... uh, day after Ys Seven.

[Paranoia Dragon]

Love the PC version, & will love this, especially in english & with the bonus features! Day 1

[unknown]

Nihon Falcom said they're pushing for international releases of their games, so hopefully we'll see VII and this soon...

[MP83]

Ugh, Ys 6 engine. Still, it'a Ys. Do want. :D Still trying to find a place to get Origins, though. It's a tough world out there. xD
What's wrong with Ys VI engine? Besides, Oath in Felghana uses modified version of it, so chances are that things that annoyed you about it no longer exist in Oath in Felghana. For instance, if you hated the Dash Jump technique and found it too hard to pull off in Ys VI; it's no longer used in Oath in Felghana. Instead, you have the double-jump feature, which is painless to pull off (just press the jump button in mid-air).

By the way, that other Ys game you mentioned is Ys Origin -- not Origins. :)

[OverGAR]

Nihon Falcom said they're pushing for international releases of their games, so hopefully we'll see VII and this soon...

Yeah I hope on that too.

Do want this game :)

[Soushi_Grapple]

This is a remake of Ys III isn't it? Definetly want it as soon as I finish Ys I and II.. lol

[wyrdwad]

Why aren't there more replies in here? This game is like, one of the greatest games ever made! Getting it in English is a no-brainer... it's FREE MONEY, Atlus! FREE MONEY!! Acquire the license, I say! You shan't regret it!

(Heck, you could sweeten the deal, too, by including both the PC and PSP version together, in a two-pack limited edition box-set, along with the soundtrack! Now THAT would be the coolest thing ever!!)

-Tom

[SkyeWelse]

Yeah, for those that have never played the PC version of Oath in Felghana, you all are would be getting a real treat if Atlus decided to publish it. It is one of the greatest RPGs, let alone one of the greatest games I've ever had the pleasure of playing. Easily one of my top 10 favorite games of all time. The gameplay is much more improved over Ys VI The Ark of Napishtim and the plot of the game simply a masterpiece of storytelling.

I own the Japanese Limited Edition version of the game, but that wouldn't stop me from purchasing two copies if it gets released here in the states. One for me and one to send to a friend. :)

-Thomas

[Einherjar]

Couldn't careless for a localization, played it many times on PC.

MAN, I'VE WAITED 3 YEARS FOR THIS.

Absolutely the best Ys, if not Falcom game up to date.

They better not mess up with the port, adding a special attack was bad enough. If they end up changing the difficulty, it's gonna be worse of a port than Fate/Unlimited Codes.

[cj iwakura]

THIS is an Ys I would buy, Day 1.

(Sorry, I owned book 1 and 2 on the VC. :P)

[Paranoia Dragon]

Yeah, for those that have never played the PC version of Oath in Felghana, you all are would be getting a real treat if Atlus decided to publish it. It is one of the greatest RPGs, let alone one of the greatest games I've ever had the pleasure of playing. Easily one of my top 10 favorite games of all time. The gameplay is much more improved over Ys VI The Ark of Napishtim and the plot of the game simply a masterpiece of storytelling.

I own the Japanese Limited Edition version of the game, but that wouldn't stop me from purchasing two copies if it gets released here in the states. One for me and one to send to a friend. :)

-Thomas

Deffinitly gotta agree with that, one of my absolute favorite games, hands down wonderful!

[Enzeru]

What's wrong with Ys VI engine? Besides, Oath in Felghana uses modified version of it, so chances are that things that annoyed you about it no longer exist in Oath in Felghana. For instance, if you hated the Dash Jump technique and found it too hard to pull off in Ys VI; it's no longer used in Oath in Felghana. Instead, you have the double-jump feature, which is painless to pull off (just press the jump button in mid-air).
Eh, it felt pretty foreign to me, and the graphics were awkward, IMO.

By the way, that other Ys game you mentioned is Ys Origin -- not Origins. :)Oh, hush! xD

[Einherjar]

Eh, it felt pretty foreign to me, and the graphics were awkward, IMO.


Then I take it that you don't like action games or really hate 2D, as how wonderfully the game is executed completely makes you turn a blind eye on the graphics (which isn't bad on the first place). And it's Ys, it'd be weird to have 3D in the first place. If you want to really bad, play Ys6 on PS2 (which induced quite some fanrage), or play Ys7.

This is one of the only few games I've played multiple times over and still isn't bored, others including Devil May Cry 3 and Tales of Destiny (not even persona 3, or DMC4, for that matter, had me run through more than once).

Hands down, best Falcom game I've ever played. It is also the most challenging Ys game up to date. Ys7 is just lulz.

[HJ.]

I registered to say this would be a day 1 purchase for me.

[Enzeru]

Then I take it that you don't like action games or really hate 2D, as how wonderfully the game is executed completely makes you turn a blind eye on the graphics (which isn't bad on the first place). And it's Ys, it'd be weird to have 3D in the first place. If you want to really bad, play Ys6 on PS2 (which induced quite some fanrage), or play Ys7.
Err...What? I love 2D graphics. The graphics in Ys Eternal were absolutely BEAUTIFUL. I'm not expecting that from a PSP but I don't quite like the awkward 3D graphics in Napishtim and I would much rather them be in 2D. I still played through Napishtim and I think it's a great game, but I'd much rather an engine like the Ys Chronicles engine be used rather than the Napishtim engine.

[Hitoshura]

Then I take it that you don't like action games or really hate 2D, as how wonderfully the game is executed completely makes you turn a blind eye on the graphics (which isn't bad on the first place). And it's Ys, it'd be weird to have 3D in the first place. If you want to really bad, play Ys6 on PS2 (which induced quite some fanrage), or play Ys7.
Err...What? I love 2D graphics. The graphics in Ys Eternal were absolutely BEAUTIFUL. I'm not expecting that from a PSP but I don't quite like the awkward 3D graphics in Napishtim and I would much rather them be in 2D. I still played through Napishtim and I think it's a great game, but I'd much rather an engine like the Ys Chronicles engine be used rather than the Napishtim engine.

Wait, before we continue, did you play Napishtim on PS2 or PC? Yes, there is a huge difference graphically.

[Ozymandias]

The graphics for the PSP version of Napishtim was also pretty good.

[wyrdwad]

Ys7 is just lulz.

If by lulz you mean ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, then yes, you're correct. (:

Ys Seven is the best PSP game I've yet played, and possibly my favorite game in the entire Ys series (at the very least, it's tied with Oath in Felghana!). I can only hope Atlus, or another reputable company like them, will be kind enough to fans to bring both games over to the English-speaking world, as they both truly are masterpieces.

-Tom

[Enzeru]

Wait, before we continue, did you play Napishtim on PS2 or PC? Yes, there is a huge difference graphically.
I played the PSP version of Napishtim. Why else would I compare this game to Naphistim?

[Hitoshura]

Hm, I'm kind of confused then, because Napishtim PSP's graphics were the same as the PC's (not the environment graphics though), which is that they were CG'd Sprites, very 2D looking. Not really what I'd call awkward...

[wyrdwad]

Actually, they *are* 2D, not just 2D-looking. 2D sprites on 3D backgrounds.

I think his issue may be with the 3D backgrounds... in which case, playing the PSP version may indeed have contributed to his dislike of the look, since the PSP version looks much "messier" than the PS2 or (especially) PC versions.

The PC version, at its highest resolution, looks *amazing*. The 3D models for everything are extraordinarily detailed.

I also believe Falcom will probably do a much better job with the engine on PSP than Konami did (Falcom actually has more experience with the system at this point!), so I'm confident Oath in Felghana will look much better than Ark of Napishtim in that regard.

-Tom

[Enzeru]

Yes, that's it. The backgrounds. The sprites didn't look 2D to me which just shows that they were done badly (HUGE IMO!) and the environments were just...Messy. They blended in too much.

But, like I said, I'm getting this game ASAP if it comes here. :]

[Einherjar]

Ys7 is just lulz.

If by lulz you mean ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, then yes, you're correct. (:

Ys Seven is the best PSP game I've yet played, and possibly my favorite game in the entire Ys series (at the very least, it's tied with Oath in Felghana!). I can only hope Atlus, or another reputable company like them, will be kind enough to fans to bring both games over to the English-speaking world, as they both truly are masterpieces.

-Tom

I mean bad, compared to Oath and YsO. I was really happy to see YsF taking the classic approach away from Ys6, but I was wrong. It feels too rpg and too much grinding, as opposed to other ys games, which aims the opposite.

How many psp have you played so far? Because it doesn't sound like you had many. I'm fairly certain you didn't play Star Ocean. Action wise, I find even God of War more fun. Ys seven is good as a jrpg, but it's not the best thing since sliced bread.

Yes, that's it. The backgrounds. The sprites didn't look 2D to me which just shows that they were done badly (HUGE IMO!) and the environments were just...Messy. They blended in too much.

But, like I said, I'm getting this game ASAP if it comes here. :]

But you see, people like that, as it feels original. I don't mind personally either way, but there were more than plenty fanrage when Ys6 came out for PS2 and they changed the 2D sprites into 3D models, which is probably the reason why they kept it up until YsF. imo, whether the fans like the game or not, Falcom made Ys7 aiming at the players who never played Ys games more than the fans, as its last few sales on the psp didn't sell well. Since you're don't like 2D sprites in Ys games, if you get ys6, you might as well as get the ps2 port.

[Enzeru]

But you see, people like that, as it feels original. I don't mind personally either way, but there were more than plenty fanrage when Ys6 came out for PS2 and they changed the 2D sprites into 3D models, which is probably the reason why they kept it up until YsF. imo, whether the fans like the game or not, Falcom made Ys7 aiming at the players who never played Ys games more than the fans, as its last few sales on the psp didn't sell well. Since you're don't like 2D sprites in Ys games, if you get ys6, you might as well as get the ps2 port.
Did you miss a post of mine? I LOVE 2D! Ys Chronicles looks like it has great graphics, and, as I said, Ys Eternal had some freaking awesome sprites, some of the best in gaming history. I love 2D sprites in Ys games. If I didn't, I would have hated Ys6, Ys Books I & II, Ys I & II (Turbographix)...the list goes on. Not to mention I already have Napishtim on PSP (no boxart, though :[). Anyway, this topic really isn't about Ys6, and I already said Oath in Felghana is a must get for me, if not a day one.

[Einherjar]

I didn't miss it. But you did mention you don't like how Ys6 and YsF being 2D (you said it yourself the graphics were weird iyo). I don't think I said you hate 2D in my last post. I'm only stating that many Ys fans actually prefer pre-rendered 2D sprites. And that if you don't prefer it, Ys6 on ps2 is actually all 3D.

Yes, that's it. The backgrounds. The sprites didn't look 2D to me which just shows that they were done badly (HUGE IMO!) and the environments were just...Messy. They blended in too much.

[Enzeru]

I didn't miss it. But you did mention you don't like how Ys6 and YsF being 2D (you said it yourself the graphics were weird iyo).I said that I didn't like the sprites themselves, not that they were 2D. I would have preferred if the full game, and not only the sprites, was in 2D.

[Jackstar]

2 copies sold here if you do this Atlus. I want this.

[Einherjar]

I didn't miss it. But you did mention you don't like how Ys6 and YsF being 2D (you said it yourself the graphics were weird iyo).I said that I didn't like the sprites themselves, not that they were 2D. I would have preferred if the full game, and not only the sprites, was in 2D.

I didn't say you don't like 2D. I simply said that you don't like the 2D sprites in Ys series as opposed to some Ys fans, so I suggest you get the PS2 version of Ys6 because of they featured full 3D that changes your appearance depending on your equipment. I thought I was pretty clear.

[Karkarov]

Hmmm remake of the best game in the Ys series with a improved engine from the last entry? Hmmmmm.... Yeap I would buy it. Begining to wish they would tie up the story on this game though and just end the series. Who knows how many more years it will be before the actual sequal and no telling if that will even be the conclusion.

[Enzeru]

I simply said that you don't like the 2D sprites in Ys series as opposed to some Ys fans,
That's the thing. I like the 2D sprites in the YS series, with Ys6 as an exception. But since I already played Ys6 I'm probably not going to buy it again for PS2.

[wyrdwad]

How many psp have you played so far? Because it doesn't sound like you had many. I'm fairly certain you didn't play Star Ocean. Action wise, I find even God of War more fun. Ys seven is good as a jrpg, but it's not the best thing since sliced bread.

Heh, I've played a good 80 PSP games thus far, including the games you mentioned (God of War is OK, but I hate Star Ocean with a fiery passion!), and still find Ys Seven the best of the bunch, with Brave Story: New Traveler, Gurumin, Half-Minute Hero, and Tokobot taking the next few places (and probably a few games I'm forgetting!). I've also played every Ys game, and virtually every Falcom game you can still get ahold of nowadays (and even some you can't!)... *and* I've been working on fan-translations for Xanadu Next and Ys Origin.

And despite all this, I still consider Ys Seven the best game on the PSP, and possibly the best Ys game so far. You may not be a big fan of it, and that's your right - it's your opinion, after all, and I can't change that! - but for me, Ys Seven represents an evolution in the series, and I really, really like where Falcom's going with it. Ys has "grown up," so to speak... it's turning into something new, while still retaining all the charm and funfactor that made it what it is today. And I think people who fault Ys Seven for being different from its predecessors will be in the minority, if the crowd at the Ancient Land of Ys web forum (and 2ch, for that matter!) is any indication... since we all pretty much LOVE the game. (:

-Tom

[Einherjar]

I just think that god of war is better in action than Ys seven.
No matter how much you love Ys seven, and how much you hate Star Ocean, it still doesn't take away the fact that there are a much larger universe (cast, plot, terminology, timeline, etc.) than Ys seven. Therefore, plot wise Ys seven isn't the best. What Ys seven strives for is a balance between the two aspects while not excelling in either one of them. If it's has the best plot ever existed and best action ever existed, the game would get more sales that Final Fantasy VII, and possibly evolve Falcom to a company as large as Square (Square was dying, and FFVII is what saved it. By all means it wasn't a big nor famous company at the time). But it didn't.

[wyrdwad]

Well, I mean I'm clearly only speaking in terms of my own personal opinion. My favorite thing about the Ys series has always been the insanely fast-paced gameplay paired with the rockin' music, and Ys Seven features both in spades. The action is faster than pretty much any other game in the series (though I'll agree the bosses are nowhere near as good as the ones featured in Oath in Felghana and Origin, but the overworld is huge and fun to explore, and the dungeons are great!), and the music is among my favorite thus far ("To Reveal the Way to Go" is one of Falcom's best overworld themes to date!).

Basically, Ys Seven is everything I love about Falcom games, all rolled into one awesome experience. It's got the fast-paced gameplay, the awesome music, and the highly-developed game world I always look for when I play a new Ys title. And in addition to this, it ALSO has one of the best storylines in the series, as well as some of the best characters - Aisha is definitely the greatest Ys girl yet, Mishera is pretty much the second-greatest, and Crshe and Elk are also really charming and lovable.

Add to that some really kickass abilities (all of which are SUPER-FAST), and a lot of classic Ys moments (arguably Dogi's best wall-crush of all time, the return of Geis and the fairies, and numerous musical references to past games), and you have something that manages to capture the spirit of an Ys game, while adding a lot of new elements to the Ys universe.

I dunno... I just really, really loved it. It was exactly the game I wanted it to be, and I can't imagine a better Ys Seven.

-Tom

[Einherjar]

Ys is fast, but by all means not INSANELY fast. There are more than a dozen games I can name right of the bat that are much faster than Ys. You made it sound like it's the most intense action game ever existed, but it's not. Prior to YsF, Ys isn't fast. It's not a matter of opinion, Ys just isn't all that fast. Fast would be something like Tales of Destiny remake on anything above Hard mode. In a game like that you wouldn't even know what's going on. When my friend just started playing with me, all he saw of a bunch of colours, had no idea what's going on, and just died while guarding. Or DMC, where every frame is important, especially if you're using royal guard. With that, I really recommend you to pick up on some good action titles, since it looks like you haven't played many. If you love dungeon explorering instead of boss fights, seriously, the dungeons aren't even creative and hard. If you want some good dungeon explorering, try Zelda Twilight Princess. If you want epic difficulty dungeon, try Zelda Oracles of Age&Seasons. So I stand corrected. Ys Seven has a bunch of different aspects, but none shines enough to beat the games that only focuses on the aspect.

My favourite overworld theme still remains "Boy's got wings".

[wyrdwad]

You're missing the point, though... I'm not saying the Ys games are the FASTEST GAMES IN THE WORLD or anything... I'm just saying they're EXACTLY AS FAST AS I WANT THEM TO BE. They have the PERFECT speed, the PERFECT pacing, and the PERFECT degree of exploration vs. story *for me*. They basically match every one of my own personal criteria for an awesome game, by maintaining a perfect balanced between all of their individual elements. And Ys Seven continues this tradition wonderfully, by being even MORE well-paced, even MORE fun to explore, than any previous title, while also having a really interesting story and a charming cast of characters.

For me, the Tales games, and Devil May Cry, simply can't compare. Yes, I've played them... but the Tales games fail to maintain a consistent pace, since the battles are separate from normal exploration... and Devil May Cry, while extremely fun, doesn't have the same "feel" to it, and isn't AS fun for me.

Like I said, it's all personal opinion. Yours is that Ys Seven is nothing special, and that's fine, I'm not trying to change your mind. But my opinion, and the opinion of just about every regular poster on the Ancient Land of Ys web forum (which is the largest English-language Falcom fan forum, BTW), as well as a good chunk of the 2ch regulars, is that Ys Seven is one of the best Ys games yet, and one of the best games on the PSP. You speak as if it's fact that Ys Seven is nothing special, when it isn't... it's just your opinion. And my opinion is that Ys Seven is VERY special. As far as I'm concerned, it's Falcom's magnum opus, like Final Fantasy VII was for Square. In my opinion, it's one of Falcom's best games of all time, which is something I don't say lightly (because trust me, you'll be hard-pressed to find another English-speaker who's played as many Falcom games as I have - I'm not ashamed to say I'm a complete Falcom fanboy!).

The only reason I'm having this discussion is because you seem unwilling to believe that others could have opinions that differ from yours, and I wanted to make sure you realized that opinions are exactly that: opinions!

Anyway, this is all getting quite off-topic here. As I mentioned before, while I may think Ys Seven is the better game, I also think Ys: The Oath in Felghana is one of the best titles in the series, possibly one of Falcom's OTHER best games of all time, and almost ASSUREDLY the Ys game with the best soundtrack of all time, so I'm really, really excited for the PSP release. I'm looking forward to the changes Falcom is making, too, as I've already played Oath in Felghana to death on the PC, so if I'm going to play it again, I'm really glad to see it'll be a slightly different experience for me, and I have faith that Falcom will be able to take the lessons learned from Ys Seven and apply them well to OiF. Can't wait to give it a try!

-Tom

[Einherjar]

For me, the Tales games, and Devil May Cry, simply can't compare. Yes, I've played them... but the Tales games fail to maintain a consistent pace, since the battles are separate from normal exploration... and Devil May Cry, while extremely fun, doesn't have the same "feel" to it, and isn't AS fun for me.
-Tom

Tales games are generally slow as #### except tales of destiny remake ps2. That game is fast. Inconsistency? It's not like you fight an enemy every 2 seconds in Ys seven. And boss battle in Destiny are longer than Ys seven.

I'm not going with opinion, but DMC3 (not 4) is faster of a game than ysf, as in the frame cancel points, time of reaction they give you, and number of invincibility you get for certain moves. Statistically, DMC is faster of a game.

Anyways, I'm just saying, the Ys seven speed = insane is pushing it, a game like this barely builds up adrenaline. You admitted it yourself that YsF and YsO has much superior bosses. And that's why I like Oath better. I'm in for Ys just for the bosses, and pretty much only for the bosses, which is why I often end up finding myself in time attack than playing the story mode.

Last of all, incorporating Ys seven engine is not going to work, they have remake the whole game along with all the boss behaviors if they want it to work, especially bosses like the giant dragon where guard and dodge can be seriously abused, and earth magic would be absolutely useless despite that it used to be one of most useful move in the game. Bosses like dularn will be a joke, since they used to be a bitch to dodge since you have to position and time your jump, now you can just spam dodge.

[wyrdwad]

They didn't say they're adding ALL of Ys Seven's gameplay systems to OiF PSP, just the skill system. And I think that could work just fine, with a bit of fine-tuning.

I think we've hit on the big difference between us, though: while I DID love the bosses in OiF and Origin, overall, I couldn't care less about bosses. It's the overall funfactor of the combat system, and the level design, that keeps me coming back to the Ys series. Something about every Ys game just feels very "nostalgic" to me, like I'm a kid playing a SNES game again. I can't even really explain what it is, especially in the case of games like Ys Seven which neither look nor play like any SNES game... but somehow, Ys Seven just FEELS like a SNES game, which is something I can't say about God of War OR Devil May Cry... and while I CAN say that about the Tales games, they feel like a different KIND of SNES game - one that I don't like as much.

Even if the bosses in Ys Seven were absolutely horrible (which they're not), I wouldn't mind at all, because I feel that Falcom did an excellent job with the game's combat system and level design. It may not be that well-balanced, and it may not be super-challenging, but it's FUN, and that's all that really matters to me. When I play Ys Seven, I'm having fun doing it - more fun than I've had with almost any other game this decade (and believe me, I've played a LOT of games this decade!). I don't play to be challenged, or to see something new or innovative, I play to have a good time, period. And with Ys Seven, I had a GREAT time.

And on the subject of bosses, it's not like the Ys series bosses are THAT spectacular. Ys Origin's, OK... I remember almost every boss from Ys Origin, as they were truly among the best I've ever encountered. But even OiF's bosses I've mostly forgotten, as they didn't mean all that much to me when I was playing, despite being really cool... and in every other game in the series, I remember either only a small handful of bosses (Ys I and II), or NO bosses (Ys V) - they were cool, but they weren't really all THAT memorable.

In Ys Seven, I'll never forget the final boss, nor most of the dragons, as they were all REALLY, REALLY COOL (I mean, geez, the earth dragon is one of the coolest bosses in the series!). The rest of the game's bosses? I'll probably forget them. Which means Ys Seven is pretty much on par with every other game in the series for me, boss-wise. Not really any better, but not any worse, either.

If you're all about bosses, I can see Ys Seven being disappointing... but bosses are only ONE ASPECT of an Ys game. They're not everything.

I guess what I'm taking issue with is your assumption that because I love the game as much as I do, I must not have played that many other PSP games, or I must not have played many action games, etc. That assumption tells me that you feel Ys Seven is an objectively worse game than other Ys games, than the Devil May Cry games, than the Tales games, etc. - and you really can't say that. No one can! Objectivity is impossible. YOU like the Devil May Cry games, and God of War, and Tales, and previous Ys games better than Ys Seven... but I don't. It's as simple as that! Pure opinion. You feel that Ys Seven isn't up to the standards set by the rest of the series, and I feel it SURPASSES those standards by leaps and bounds. Neither of us is right, neither of us is wrong. It's all just a matter of taste!

I do find it interesting, though, that you mentioned in another topic having played the game in Chinese... because from what I've seen, it seems Ys Seven is much less popular in Chinese-speaking countries than anywhere else in the world. Japanese gamers on 2ch, for the most part, seem to love it, and every English-speaker I know of who's played the game (which is probably around 2-3 dozen people) more or less loves it as well (some have issue with it being PSP-exclusive at the moment, some find the soundtrack too synthy, and some seem to dislike the plot twist near the end, but EVERYONE, without exception, agrees that it has the best combat of any Ys game to date).

Every Chinese and Taiwanese gamer I've spoken with, though, seems really disappointed in Ys Seven, and Chinese message boards are full of people who hate or at least strongly dislike it. I'm kind of fascinated by this from a cultural standpoint, as it seems really odd to me that the difference in opinion between these different gaming cultures would be THAT PRONOUNCED. I mean, it's not really anything new, since games like Monster Hunter and Phantasy Star Portable kinda flopped in North America, but sell gangbusters in Japan... but it's still really fascinating, and I'd love to explore the reasons behind it sometime.

-Tom

[Einherjar]

Calm down, nobody is saying Ys seven if a good game. And the Chinese fanbase is not small by any means at all, or else they wouldn't even bother translating it, in less than half of an year, no less. And I'm not saying DMC and GoW are better.

I'm just stating out the popular Action games purely made for action and nothing but action and comparing it to Ys seven's action aspect (GoW and DMC are famous, and ToDr..... let's just say that Barbatos can deal 669,000,000 damage to you when you can have 9999 max, and most of his attacks can deal 30000+). Most good action games are probably faster than Ys seven (not opinion). Another reason why I brought up Destiny remake is that these two games are somewhat similar. In Destiny, you can have skills also (and lvlup-able)and spam them until your cc runs out. Then you can recover all the CC by standing still for 0.5 seconds. Just that in destiny it is generally much faster, combo oriented and will take some time to adjust.

Then I compared to the best RPGs to Ys seven's plot and setting (like Star Ocean 2 having a longer plot with a larger cast, as well as a larger setting), to bring out my point that Ys seven is a balance game. You said you think Ys seven has insane speed, but even if it is faster (though, I've already said, judging by how the game works, not opinion, DMC IS faster paced.), what good is it if you don't have the appropriate challenge for it? All am I saying that while Ys has okay good plot and action, none of them are STELLAR.

[wyrdwad]

And I'm disagreeing with you. (: Yes, other games may be faster, or even technically better... but that doesn't mean Ys Seven isn't still insanely fast (because it definitely is - compare it with Secret of Mana, or Illusion of Gaia, or even most Zelda games, or any other classic action RPG, and you'll find that the rate at which enemies appear and die is MUCH quicker - and classic action RPG fans are definitely the target audience for this game!), and it doesn't mean Ys Seven isn't REALLY GOOD. Other games may do what Ys Seven does, and they may do it "better" (which is purely subjective), but for me, they don't do it with nearly as much STYLE, and I simply don't enjoy other games anywhere near as much.

And the bottom line is, funfactor is all that really counts. And for me, Ys Seven's funfactor is through the roof. Period. I don't need to justify loving the game, and I don't really want to hear arguments as to why I SHOULDN'T love it. All I care about is that I do. I love it for what it is. I think it's the best game on the PSP, and the best game in the Ys series. You may disagree with that, and you're entitled to that opinion... but mine is unwavering. I love Ys Seven, and though I may not be able to fully verbalize WHY I love it, that doesn't change the fact that I do.

-Tom

[Hyakulegger]

I would so get this game if it came out! Please Atlus, pick this game up for us!

[Superlocke]

I made this account just to tell you how much I want YsF on PSP in english, Atlus!!

and also to Einherjar: You're doing something I absolutely hate, which is presenting your OPINION as pure, hard fact. Please stop.

You may think that Ys Seven doesn't excel at all aspects presented before you, but I will disagree with you completely.

The Ys series always has a VERY well-developed story and cast, and a fun, frantic battle system. Ys Seven to date has represented this the best, and while you may not be able to see that, I will thank you to not go around blindly denying this.

I don't mean to come down on you as a jerk, if it seems that way, I apologize. But it seems like you're just arguing against Ys for the sake of argument.

I'd say especially since Ys Seven hasn't even been released in english, fully translated yet, so unless you can read japanese, I find it hard to believe you can make any claims against it's story. Ys Seven IS an incredibly fast game, even if you think it doesn't do everything the greatest... many will disagree with you.

For example: You raised Star Ocean 2 as an example? For the amount of play time that game takes to complete... proportionally, I feel there is very little character growth, and the story is somewhat shallow.

Is it still a fun game? Yes.

Does Ys 6 and Felghana get more plot/character development done in less time? I would definitely say so. If we ever see Ys Seven in english, I'd wager it will again as well.

Once again, not that Star Ocean 2 is a bad game, (I used it as the example to be nice, if it was Star Ocean 1 there would be absolutely no defending it, I hated it.) But you can see where opinion plays the role of the major divider here.

Just because you see something one way, that does not make it the be-all end-all opinion one should have of a game, so in the future please take care to not make it seem that way.


Wyrd: I'm taggin' out. That was my two cents. You take it from here ;)

[jeffx]

^ thanks for supporting this game, but you just stirred the Einherjar pot.

[Einherjar]

I made this account just to tell you how much I want YsF on PSP in english, Atlus!!

The Ys series always has a VERY well-developed story and cast, and a fun, frantic battle system. Ys Seven to date has represented this the best, and while you may not be able to see that, I will thank you to not go around blindly denying this.

I'd say especially since Ys Seven hasn't even been released in english, fully translated yet, so unless you can read japanese, I find it hard to believe you can make any claims against it's story. Ys Seven IS an incredibly fast game, even if you think it doesn't do everything the greatest... many will disagree with you.

For example: You raised Star Ocean 2 as an example? For the amount of play time that game takes to complete... proportionally, I feel there is very little character growth, and the story is somewhat shallow.

Is it still a fun game? Yes.

Does Ys 6 and Felghana get more plot/character development done in less time? I would definitely say so. If we ever see Ys Seven in english, I'd wager it will again as well.

Once again, not that Star Ocean 2 is a bad game, (I used it as the example to be nice, if it was Star Ocean 1 there would be absolutely no defending it, I hated it.) But you can see where opinion plays the role of the major divider here.

Just because you see something one way, that does not make it the be-all end-all opinion one should have of a game, so in the future please take care to not make it seem that way.


Wyrd: I'm taggin' out. That was my two cents. You take it from here ;)

Okay, first of all, I'm using the chinese translation of ys7, translated by hardcore fans.

And Let's say felghana. Which character have any development? Adol? Dogi? Maybe Valestein and Chester, and Elena, maybe dularn was a bit interesting, and then there's Garland? other than that, I don't see it as deep as some of other things. I'm using star ocean 2 as an example of a PSP game (never played SO1), and the main actually talks, has a character, and has his own share of problems and inferiority complex he has to deal with. Many characters in SO2 have connections to other games in the series, and its cast is definitely larger. Many skits and side scenes contributed to the fact. Felghana feels more like.... Cave story, if you played it. Beautiful and simple. And let's look at the plot. Felghana's plot by all means isn't unique, and is used often in rpg games, pretty cliche and VERY linear, save for the plot twist in the end. We get to see that in the oldest rpg games. Meanwhile, let's a have a look at persona 3 in comparison.

As for the best action on psp, the general fans of actions games would like do disagree with you. I never said the game is bad. It's good. But I'm betting money on that if a reviewer who never played ys games wrote a review, he's going to say, it's a fun hack and slash arpg, and that's pretty much it, nothing much on replay values and all. I don't believe that a hard core action fan would feel the same way about the game as when they first picked up say Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

Well, that's my 2cents. It's a good game, and definitely worth localizing, but it's nothing epic nor is it the best psp game unless you're a hardcore ys fan. I who enjoyed chronicles and YsO YsF, feels like it's a little... blend. Just my opinion.

[wyrdwad]

Ehh, I've already said my piece on this. I will agree with Einherjar on one thing, though: non-Ys fans reviewing Ys Seven probably would just think it's an above-average action RPG, but nothing super-special - an 8/10 game, most likely. Ys Seven is very much designed with Ys fans in mind, and I think a series fan who's played and loved every Ys game up till now (not just one or two, but ALL of them) will be the most likely candidate to REALLY TRULY LOVE Ys Seven, and give it a 10/10 rating.

I fall into that category rather nicely, I think. And I'll admit, I'm biased, as I love the aesthetic and old-school charm of the series... but I can't deny that for me, Ys Seven is the best game on the PSP, and one of the greatest examples there is of Falcom learning and growing from past titles.

Oath in Felghana is another great example, and I hold it in equally high esteem, as I've mentioned previously.

Both games in English would essentially make the PSP the greatest system ever for English-speakers to own, as far as I'm concerned. (: Others would just see them as fun JRPGs with tight controls and faster-than-usual action, and might rank them both as AMONG the best games on the system, but probably not as THE best games on the system.

Still, I think they'd sell very well, and would be very smart acquisitions for Atlus.

-Tom

[bucklemyshoe]

we need more y's

[jeffx]

we need more y's

never heard of y's

[wyrdwad]

we need more y's

never heard of y's

That's totally going to confuse him, you realize. (:

To clarify: Jeffx is noting that the name of the game is "Ys" (no apostrophe), not "Y's".

-Tom

[Enzeru]

Aram should totally make a joke about "Y's" in the announcement for this and/or Ys 7. :D

[Gunloc]

Adding my support for this game.

[Dreamwriter]

Dude, Ys Felghana would be awesome on PSP. It's my favorite PC game - fun, fast-paced action gameplay, great music that fits the action perfectly, and good (if simple) story. It's how Ys III should have been in the first place. I would love to play it on my PSPGo.

[jj984jj]

Dude, Ys Felghana would be awesome on PSP. It's my favorite PC game - fun, fast-paced action gameplay, great music that fits the action perfectly, and good (if simple) story. It's how Ys III should have been in the first place. I would love to play it on my PSPGo.

You bought a PSP Go? That's a pretty exclusive club. If this does make it here you have to hope for a PSN release.

[Necrotek]

Ys: Oath in Felghana is one of the best action-RPG game I've ever played! Full-voiced + good port + English won't leave anyone cold. +1 reason to buy PSP if you didn't play the game on PC.

[daph]

Day one purchase for me if this came out in the US. I played through the PC version but I would sure as hell buy this for PSP.

[KnightofAncient]

Here is the trailer for the upcoming psp version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUaW7iYM3w

[cephaskim]

Adding my support for this wonderful remake.

[PhantomOfTheKnight]

Adding my support for this wonderful remake.

...and thus shall I.

[Wheels]

I'd really like to have this game on my PSP, but I think if we were to get an Ys game on PSP I'd prefer YS VII.

[Nzurozeta]

It would be a lot nicer to have a psp copy of this game rather than forking out the 60 or so for the PC version. Yeaaaaa, bring this one over please!

[jeffx]

so rumour has it XSEED's on the ball

[PhantomOfTheKnight]

Yeah, so I read. (http://siliconera.com/2010/03/21/are-xseed-publishing-falcoms-psp-games/)