Knights in the Nightmare

[aminaha]

Recently revealed in Japan with a vague 2008 release date. But still this is Sting's latest handheld rpg- it looks nice. Its a turn-based rts its really strange how can a game be turn-based and rts i guess Sting will show us how. Anyways Atlus localizes a whole bunch of Sting games Riviera, Baroque, Yggdra Union-so hopefiully they'll bring this game over here. Looks like a fun game for the ds.www.cubed3.com/news/9501

[Master Zombots]

Yup, that'd be swell to see this localized. :)

[Kakizaki]

Maybe we should wait until a little more info is released?

[Hello Hello]

Looks interesting. I want to know more.

[Sayckeone]

We got the first two, so why wouldn't we get this one? Oh, wait...

[drunkmoron]

This look interesting. I would get it if it was release

[Kakizaki]

^Even though there is hardly any info on it yet?

[System_Error]

Drunkmoron would buy a Generations of Chaos game >_>

[Sayckeone]

I would buy it if it got released here, and EO2 did as well. Yes, even though there's hardly any info yet. YU was an amazing enough of a game for me to get this.

[Kakizaki]

^Not all Sting games are awesome unfortunately.

[drunkmoron]

Drunkmoron would buy a Generations of Chaos game >_>

I like game involving strategy and all but I'm not that desperate to play one................
However I hadn't touch my DS in a while and the only upcoming DS game that look good is Apollo Justice (which would last a week or 2) so another Sting hand held game would be really nice to have

[Sayckeone]

^Not all Sting games are awesome unfortunately.
Right, but after playing OB back in the day, when you saw TO, you wanted to play it, even if you didn't know much about it. This is the same thing.

[Kakizaki]

^True enough. Although, I saw a huge spread for TO in Super Play magazine before I ever knew of TO. So it isn't quite the same.

[Sayckeone]

I didn't mean you specifically. I saw the huge article in NP(maybe it was GF) on TO back in the day. I just meant, generally, you like one game in a series, you look forward to the next, no matter how little info there is, or how different it appears.

[Kakizaki]

Oh no, I got your point. SMT titles were once the same way for me. I do trend to look at company track record, and Sting had some real stinkers imo for a period.

[Master Zombots]

Here are some nice screens from the game:

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/142/14235020/imgs_1.html

[drunkmoron]

^ this game remind me of both Riviera and Yggdra Union at the same time

[Sayckeone]

^It's a part of the same series, that's why.

[jj984jj]

Yes please! The more Sting games that get localized, the better.

[Master Zombots]

http://ds.ign.com/articles/858/858665p1.html

New preview of the game. They hope that Atlus will localize the game also. :)

[Arjuna]

Looks good, the art style reminds me a lot of Riviera.

[Olethros]

This game looks pretty kewl.

[DarkShear]

I'd buy it, need another game for the ol' DS.

[Sayckeone]

Buy Yggdra Union and Riviera first. They're part one and two of this series.

[DarkShear]

Buy Yggdra Union and Riviera first. They're part one and two of this series.

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap.

[Master Zombots]

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap. Which version? The GBA version is definitely not cheap.

[DarkShear]

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap. Which version? The GBA version is definitely not cheap.

It's cheap if I'm okay with just the cartridge and no manual/box. I would personally be fine with just the cartridge as it would save me $20 that I could spend on another game.

Just cartridge is going for about $17, with the fluff it's $43+.

[Maxine MagicFox]

I didn't know Riviera was part of a series? o_O; (not that I finished the game, either, but...) Yggdra Union... I heard of that one somewhere, but never bothered to pick it up.

Hrrrm, maybe I'll go back to playing that when I'm done with Izuna... why did I stop playing anyway? I was infatuated with that game from the moment I saw the trailer on a demo disk from Nintendo Power.... :\ My backlog seems to be catching up with me.

[Sanctine]

I didn't know Riviera was part of a series? o_O;

Uhh... it isn't. Where did you get that idea?

[Arjuna]

Buy Yggdra Union and Riviera first. They're part one and two of this series.

[Sanctine]

I'm tired as hell.

[Sayckeone]

I didn't know Riviera was part of a series? o_O;

Uhh... it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
Yes, it is. The series is called The Department of Heaven. Riviera was the first episode, YU the second, KitN the fourth. The third episode hasn't been announced yet, but is supposed to be for the PSP.

http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/index.htm

Take a look toward the bottom of the official site.

[Sanctine]

How did I not know this?

[Thunder-Slash]

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap. Which version? The GBA version is definitely not cheap.

My GameStop is selling the two games for $10 each (with box and manual).

[Maxine MagicFox]

I didn't know Riviera was part of a series? o_O;

Uhh... it isn't. Where did you get that idea?
Yes, it is. The series is called The Department of Heaven. Riviera was the first episode, YU the second, KitN the fourth. The third episode hasn't been announced yet, but is supposed to be for the PSP.

http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/index.htm

Take a look toward the bottom of the official site.

Thanks!

[Master Zombots]

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap. Which version? The GBA version is definitely not cheap.

My GameStop is selling the two games for $10 each (with box and manual). New?

[Thunder-Slash]

I've got Yggdra Union, but not Riviera yet. I'll pick that up this week as it's cheap. Which version? The GBA version is definitely not cheap.

My GameStop is selling the two games for $10 each (with box and manual). New?

Well, they are marked as "Used". But I'm pretty sure I saw them a few months back as "New" (for about $20 each). I guess they are taking up space so the GS guys are trying to get rid of them.

[Master Zombots]

Well, they are marked as "Used". But I'm pretty sure I saw them a few months back as "New" (for about $20 each). I guess they are taking up space so the GS guys are trying to get rid of them. Nice, I wish they had some at my local stores.

[Zampano]

The series is called The Department of Heaven. Riviera was the first episode, YU the second, KitN the fourth. The third episode hasn't been announced yet, but is supposed to be for the PSP.

No. First, it's called "Dept. Heaven"; no "of," no "the," and before you argue that "Dept." clearly means "Department," try to remember how many words have the letters 'd', 'e', 'p' and 't' in them in that order, * and then how TERRIBLE Sting is with English. Even in Japanese it's written デプト (deputo). Second, there has been no news of the third, let alone what console it's supposed to be for, aside from the passing mention "then where is episode three?!" under a short explanation of the Dept. Heaven series in the Famitsu article announcing Kitten (my nickname for KitN).
Anyways, it's April, so the official Kitten website should be up soon. Hell, tomorrow's the first Friday of April, and Sting usually reserves big updates for Fridays, so, maybe...

[RayFoxSith]

Honestly, I don't think he cares.

[Sayckeone]

lol

I realize there's no "of", that was a minor mistake on my part, so kindly shut up. "The" is just you being anal.

And Dept. is an abbreviation for department. If Sting means anything in English, that's it. Use all the half assed arguments you want, I really don't care.

I realized there has been no news of the third, which is why I said "SUPPOSED." Meaning, that is what is being said. I never said it was absolutely for any system. Please learn to read.

Other than that, go away.

[Zampano]

And Dept. is an abbreviation for department. If Sting means anything in English, that's it.

No. "Dept." (considering the stories of Riviera and YU) could easily, logically mean anything from deport to depict or deplete.
And I reiterate that Sting sucks at English (Rothe [Rose], Revellion [who knows], Toolus [who knows], etc.)

I realized there has been no news of the third, which is why I said "SUPPOSED." Meaning, that is what is being said.

By whom? I've heard no one say it's going to be for one system or another; hell, I've hardly heard anyone even speculate upon the subject.

I never said it was absolutely for any system. Please learn to read.

Oh dear; boy, please don't imply I said you said that. Because I don't want to get into a bunch of "you said that I said that you said..." nonsense. Please just stop making silly claims, particularly when your claims are proven false by text that appears on this page...

[Inzaghi]

Oh dear; boy, please don't imply I said you said that. Because I don't want to get into a bunch of "you said that I said that you said..." nonsense. Please just stop making silly claims, particularly when your claims are proven false by text that appears on this page...

"Boy" is straddling the line between conversation and insult as used here, not to mention it's the surest sign yet that you're actually Shifen. Whether or not you're him, you're out at the first sign of trolling or argument for its own sake... which you're also straddling the line of here.

[Zampano]

I really have to say I didn't understand that post. But I got the point, and will quiet down; though I still contend that I'm right.

[RayFoxSith]

:roll:

[Sayckeone]

LOL @ Zampano

Is this dude serious?

Also, I still contend that I'm right, but whatever.

[Kakizaki]

Zampano = Shifen/Sturm/Zach. No, I'm not kidding.

[Kakizaki]

LOL @ Zampano

Is this dude serious?

Also, I still contend that I'm right, but whatever.



I wouldn't worry about it Sayck -- not that you are. Per usual Sturm fashion, you know that he will go all straw man if this was to persist anyway.

[theGerf]

Are the episode numbers of Riviera or Yggdra Union ever stated somewhere, or is it just an assumption that they're 1 and 2? I figure there'd be ample room for an episode before Riviera, at least, and probably enough to preempt YU as well.

[Zampano]

The Famitsu article in which Kitten was announced is the only place in which their episode numbers have been officially given.

[Hayato]

The Famitsu article in which Kitten was announced is the only place in which their episode numbers have been officially given.

Actually, no. I have the April (aka, nearly two months old) issue of Dengeki Maoh, and there's an article in here about Knights in the Nightmare, along with some data on the Dept. Heaven series. There really isn't much in here other than the names of the worlds the games take place in (Riviera => ...Riviera, Yggdra Union => Ancaldia, Knights in the Nightmare => Aventheim), and some minor notes about the heaven and hades gates, though.

But it has the episode numbers too.

[Zampano]

... Yggdra Union doesn't take place on Ancardia. Ancardia is the continent that <spoilers> raises out of the ocean.

And by the way, when I said it was the only official, I was referring to the fact that it's the only official source he's going to find with any ease - the Famitsu article is scanned, and, as far as my search abilities have been able to determine (and I HAVE been looking), Dengeki Maoh does not get scanned.

[Zachalmighty]

Zampano = Shifen/Sturm/Zach. No, I'm not kidding.

What kind of game is this?

I have YU and Riviera so I would definitely buy this game if it was localized.


Wait, I am not an asshole. :(

[Zampano]

From what's known so far, it's if you take FFT, do that thing Sting does where they abstract the controls to allow them to make the scene as gorgeous as possible (you control the battle via a sort of wire model view on the bottom screen while it's displayed ever so prettily on the top screen), throw in something about possession, make the turns real time a la Eternal Sonata, add a shooting mini game aspect into the battles, and you've got what we know so far.

[Hayato]

... Yggdra Union doesn't take place on Ancardia. Ancardia is the continent that <spoilers> raises out of the ocean.

Cool. I haven't played Yggdra Union, so I was just taking it out of what the article seemed to explain. Maybe it meant legendary lands associated with the game? :s

As far as I know, Dengeki Maoh does get scanned, but it's only really made available to manga scanlators because of the volume of comics in it. But this is just inference from a friend who has a scanlation group; she was telling me about how much trouble she had to go through to get scans of the Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut manga.

I don't have access to a scanner now, but I can scan the Knights in the Nightmare article later.

[Zampano]

Maybe it meant legendary lands associated with the game? :s
Possible. Ancardia IS mentioned in Riviera, after all.

I don't have access to a scanner now, but I can scan the Knights in the Nightmare article later.
That would be awesome. Thank you.

[Hayato]

Sorry for the wait. Here's the scans; the bit about the worlds is on the bottom of the second page.

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8085/dengekimaoh0408kitnp1sqf1.th.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dengekimaoh0408kitnp1sqf1.jpg) http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7273/dengekimaoh0408kitnp2stx9.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dengekimaoh0408kitnp2stx9.jpg)

[Gen Eric Gui]

If you guys translate this game I'll buy it first day. I have yet to be disappointed in any games from Sting, and I haven't seen anything yet to tell me different about this one.

[Futomimi]

I still haven't played YU, but if it's even as good as Riviera, I would definitely buy it.

[Sayckeone]

I still haven't played YU, but if it's even as good as Riviera, I would definitely buy it.
YU is the best game Atlus released in '06. It is the best SRPG since FFT. It is the best GBA game. You have no excuse for not playing it, Mimi. You might as well track down a copy, since Atlus won't be localizing the PSP version.

[Futomimi]

There's a copy of it both here in Denton and in the Mesquite store that I frequent, where rare RPGs stick around for months/years sometimes at a time. Picking it up is just a matter of budget.

[Sayckeone]

You have no excuse, Mimi. Start eating more ramen and less baked potato soup.

[Futomimi]

lol :P

[jj984jj]

The official Japanese website has a lot more content on it now:
http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/index.htm

It's coming out in Japan July 17th! :D

[Master Zombots]

I really like the music on the site. The game itself seems nice, and I still hope it is localized here.

[Alone]

Did anyone else see the Sting DS game in some .jp store (can't find the link)

I think it was either a Limited Edition, with Yggdra Union and Reviera in addition to Knights, or it was just Reviera and Yggdra for the DS.

Considering that these two games deserve another chance at good sales, it would be nice if this LE was localized.

Edit: found it

Sting DS (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/edigi-game/jan-4933438001287/)

translation, anyone?

[Sayckeone]

^That's just Knight In the Nightmare.

[Alone]

Pity. I was willing to rebuy Reviera and Yggdra for the DS - especially is they were on one cart :(

[Master Zombots]

Pity. I was willing to rebuy Reviera and Yggdra for the DS - especially is they were on one cart :( Same - that would be nice. I doubt either will be ported to the DS though, let alone together.

[&gt;:-(]

I support this as well.

[Forever in the West]

Just dropped $115 to preorder the DHE Special Edition pack of the game, because I waited too long and every other place was sold out of it... Sting hasn't even told people what's in it yet and it's selling out! :(

[Kid Marin]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61H2Pg2qAXL._SS400_.jpg

[Master Zombots]

Wow! That is some nice artwork for the box! :shock:

Thanks for finding that, Kid Marin.

[RayFoxSith]

####, yeah that is pretty spiff.

[Sayckeone]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[Bid]

That boxart is ####ing amazing. I agree, when Atlus localizes this game (it's almost certain to happen), they have to keep this boxart.

[Tivor]

Holy boxart, Batman!!! :shock:

[jj984jj]

What a wonderful boxart. :o

[unknown]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[Sagadego]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[jj984jj]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[RayFoxSith]

I think that's enough lauding the box art.

[RayFoxSith]

http://www.siliconera.com/2008/05/20/episodes-of-dept-heaven-bundled-together/

This is never going to be released here, but something interesting I found.

[Forever in the West]

I hope it means Kitten will have some sort of GBA insert capabilities, like Feel the Magic: XY/XX and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

[Chronis]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[System_Error]

I hope it means Kitten will have some sort of GBA insert capabilities, like Feel the Magic: XY/XX and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

WTF is a Kitten?

[Sanctine]

WTF is a Kitten?

Knights in the Nightmare. Very witty. Uh huh.

[Futomimi]

Atlus, when you bring this over, can you include a kitten as a pre-order bonus?

[Voodoo]

I hope it means Kitten will have some sort of GBA insert capabilities, like Feel the Magic: XY/XX and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

WTF is a Kitten?

http://www.littlefolkspuzzle.com/catalog/1350-30PCFLOORPUZZLE-KITTEN.JPG

Kitten

[Neku]

LOL at Kittin

The only thing that looks more awesome than the box art is the game itself. I'll preorder that game as soon as I get the magical localization e-mail from Atlus, like, next Holidays? No pressure though, nope... but it better comes :P

[randar23rhenn]

yeah that box art is amazing

i hope this gets localized. sting rocks

[Sei]

Keep that, Atlus. Seriously, don't even think of using anything else.

[Voodoo]

Nice quote train guys :roll:

[Alone]

the box art for D.H.E is f***ing amazing!

So, July 17, +2 months ----->

Atlus could have it ready in time for Christmas :o

[ShadowRaskolnik]

the box art for D.H.E is f***ing amazing!

So, July 17, +2 months ----->

Atlus could have it ready in time for Christmas :o

I thought it takes at least four months to localize a title, nevermind you're right. unless Atlus does the same thing it did with Odin Sphere.

[randar23rhenn]

the box art for D.H.E is f***ing amazing!

So, July 17, +2 months ----->

Atlus could have it ready in time for Christmas :o

I thought it takes at least four months to localize a title, nevermind you're right. unless Atlus does the same thing it did with Odin Sphere.as in localize one of the best RPGs of the generation?

[Kakizaki]

What?

[Sayckeone]

Odin Sphere was garbage, bro.

[Kaoro]

Odin Sphere was garbage, bro.
Eh, it was okay. I bought it based on hype and felt pretty disappointed though.

Oh and localize this please! :lol:

[Zeta_Nova]

Here's some new scans for ya as well :D.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4848/kitn1ti5.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kitn1ti5.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2521/kitn2ee4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kitn2ee4.jpg)

Not coming to the U.S. Don't jump to conclusions right away. Look at SQUARE ENIX' Star Ocean: Til the End of Time. Sure, for years fans had that; "The game isn't coming to the U.S"-type of comment. Well, guess what? Eventually, Til the End of Time DID reach the U.S and also it reached overseas as well. In European nations (namely the U.K).

[Sayckeone]

Not coming to the U.S. Don't jump to conclusions right away.
Uhh... You've got to be ####ing kidding me. :lol:

[Voodoo]

Not coming to the U.S. Don't jump to conclusions right away.
Uhh... You've got to be ####ing kidding me. :lol:

You need to learn to make funnier joke accounts :roll:

[Kakizaki]

Here's some new scans for ya as well :D.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4848/kitn1ti5.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kitn1ti5.jpg) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2521/kitn2ee4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kitn2ee4.jpg)

Not coming to the U.S. Don't jump to conclusions right away. Look at SQUARE ENIX' Star Ocean: Til the End of Time. Sure, for years fans had that; "The game isn't coming to the U.S"-type of comment. Well, guess what? Eventually, Til the End of Time DID reach the U.S and also it reached overseas as well. In European nations (namely the U.K).

The merger of Enix and Square, and the subsequent closing of the N.A. Enix office played a large role in this I believe. If that hadn't happened, we may have seen the regular version of SO3 much earlier. That being said, I think you need to start thinking more about the things you decide to post. You really make some ridiculous comments.

[Sayckeone]

Best part was telling us not to jump to conclusions, right after doing so himself. :lol: I'm still loling at that.

[Olethros]

Not coming to the U.S. Don't jump to conclusions right away.
Uhh... You've got to be ####ing kidding me. :lol:

You need to learn to make funnier joke accounts :roll:

Yeah, like me and voodoo. Same guy, different account. We even argue with "ourselves"! Funny stuff, eh?

[Sayckeone]

Some would say that I have been arguing with myself for years when I argue with MZ. Furthermore, what makes you think that the two of you really aren't me? :twisted:

[RayFoxSith]

I say we tell each and every new person that they have just joined onto the ranks of the Collective.

[Olethros]

^lol.

We're rebelling Saycke. You've been the dominate personality for too long now. Even though we couldn't convince MZ to join us, Voodoo and I are starting our own coup.

[Voodoo]

HAHA I found an updated pic of Olethros then

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42039000/jpg/_42039918_picard_borg.jpg



P.S. MZ didn't join because we didn't want to ask him

[Olethros]

^ which is also a picture of you...and saycke...and MZ and .....

[Sayckeone]

^lol.

We're rebelling Saycke. You've been the dominate personality for too long now. Even though we couldn't convince MZ to join us, Voodoo and I are starting our own coup.
Good luck with that.

[Master Zombots]

Wow, nice screens. The character art looks great, as usual.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I can't read any of that, but oh god DO WANT.

[Forever in the West]

Sting finally posted some Kitten wallpapers.
http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/sp/wall/index.htm

[ShadowRaskolnik]

This game is continuing to look interesting, hopefully it will be good.

[Erhard]

Yeah, looks promising enough. Thumbs up and hope for localization.

[Tatsuki]

Definitely. Need my Sting fix!

EDIT: I never noticed, but the gameplay is in English! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=FWVOCDzTPCo)

That must mean it has to be coming here! :lol:

[RayFoxSith]

Not necessarily. Plenty of games in Japan have English text. Sin & Punishment (N64) was practically all in English but didn't see release here until the Wii came around with the Virtual Console.

[Tatsuki]

Not the text, the voices! They're dubbed in English. :wink:

That means someone went through the trouble of getting the voices already. So all that's left is to replace the text and announce the release. :wink:

And SnP was supposed to be released here, but by the time it was ready, the market was dead for the N64. Not at all the same for the DS. :wink:

[Master Zombots]

Hmm, that is sort of strange that the voices are in English. They might have been in English in the Japanese version; although, that would make it much easier for localization purposes. :)

[Alone]

God the wallpapers are gorgeous...

[jj984jj]

Definitely. Need my Sting fix!

EDIT: I never noticed, but the gameplay is in English! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=FWVOCDzTPCo)

That must mean it has to be coming here! :lol:
That has got to be the weirdest take on real-time strategy I've ever seen... I can't wait to play it! :D

I still don't get why they call it a turn-based RTS RPG, I guess it's because you have to choose a character first? It reminds me of what Sega did for Valkyria Chronicles, they called the game an Action RTS RPG when it was revealed but it's also partially a shooter and the game takes place in turns. :lol:

[Alone]

btw, here's a gameplay trailer from youtube (crappy quality :/)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FWVOCDzTPCo

Looks fun! And I think they reused so Sound Clips from Yggdra/Riviera ("going all out" lol)

[Futomimi]

Wow, it looks really fast-paced, especially for an sRPG. I like it.

[Sayckeone]

btw, here's a gameplay trailer from youtube (crappy quality :/)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FWVOCDzTPCo

Looks fun! And I think they reused so Sound Clips from Yggdra/Riviera ("going all out" lol)
That's already been posted in this thread.

Mimi, it's real time turn based. :P

[Gen Eric Gui]

Well, according to Sting, it's not an SRPG. It's a Turn-based, Real-Time strategy game, whatever that's supposed to mean.

[Sayckeone]

^Too slow.

[Futomimi]

lol. WTF is wrong with me today. Sorry.

[Olethros]

lol. WTF is wrong with me today. Sorry.

Only today? How do explain all the other days then? :P

[Voodoo]

Cut Mimi some slack cause the undead aren't known for being very quick

[Sanctine]

Cut Mimi some slack cause the undead aren't known for being very quick

Mimi ain't undead, she's just dirty.

[Olethros]

Cut Mimi some slack cause the undead aren't known for being very quick

Mimi ain't undead, she's just dirty.

Dirty AND undead is my vote.

[Alone]

my bad, missed it >_<

[Futomimi]

BRAIIIIIINNNNNNSSSSSS.
BATHTUUUUUBBBBBBBSSSSSS.

[Erhard]

Looks like the game has some english text in it. (It isn't all japanese. All the important texts are japanese tho) I really hope Atlus Usa localizes this.

[jj984jj]

The game has been delayed to September 25th (http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/sp/releasedate/index.htm) in Japan. I hope, when all is said and done, that's a good sign and not a bad one.

[Master Zombots]

Here's another nice trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35201.html

[Bid]

The music and the end of that trailer, at the title screen, is brilliant.

[jj984jj]

There's another new PV on the official website (http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/), and it's available in both English and Japanese. Just click on the latest news update on the main page and a window should pop up, then choose the second option for English.

This one briefly explains how the game is played, it look absolutely fantastic! :D

[Chronis]

Was it just me or did the woman speaking seems.... off a bit. Good video though. Hopefully it's some sort of sign to Americans interested.... probably not though.

[raum215]

If the Japanese is Deputo, "Deputo Heaven" is what the series is, I think. I hear alot of people say that "so-and-so's english is horrible". Does it ever occur to people that it might not be English?

"Deputo Caelum" is a subject of the work of Pseudo-Dionysus, a mystical Neoplatonist who established the Orthodox opinion of the Orders of Angels that was adopted by the Catholics.

Deputo , the Latin word for "cut off, or severed from" +
Caelum, the Latin word for "Heaven."

Deputo Caelum is a state visited upon the Angels of the Order of the Powers. By being cut off from the "Highest Octaves of Thought" i.e. Heaven, in order to do battle for the Holy Cause, the Powers become corrupt themselves. These holy beings become tainted by the world of Men that they so strive to keep free of the Rebellious ones. But face it, if you're gonna fight fire, you're gonna get hot! same goes for the filth of matter and carnal being!

This is (according to Several mythologies) how the Nephelim were created. The Powers descended to protect humanity at the behest of The Lord, and suffered the temptations of the flesh as they began to experience and suffer "Deputo Caelum". To be in the presence of the Most Holy, and to have that ripped away. How could an Angel not see our world as anything else but Hell to be ripped away but that the light might once again shine upon him?

This is how Gabriel is at once a great agent of god, and at others, a creature of terror and death who has little but contempt for mankind.

(Not to wax religious, but some Qabalists believe that it was in his dark times on the earth, that Gabriel appeared to Mohammed (pbuh) and thus the roots of Islam are perverse. Others believe it was during this time that he was told to go to Mohammed as a final act of redemption, and thus he was redeemed. Others believe nothing of the sort. Others find little interest or worth in what they believe are tales and analogies.)

I could better support this assumption that this has to do with "Deputo Caelum" after I finish Riviera and play YU. I would love to hear from those who have something to say about this.

Incidentally, "deputo" is the Latin root of the word "Deputy", which is another consideration.

your resident occultist,
Ch

[Voodoo]

Wow

[Sayckeone]

raum215, you might be on to something with Deputo Caelum.

[raum215]

raum215, you might be on to something with Deputo Caelum.

Everything from Angel Blade to Yu-Gi-Oh! (closest I could get to A-Z) has some overt if only slight elements of actual Mysticism or Occultism in it. They simply don't share American cultural taboos against the idea of spiritual power being exercised to personal great effect. It is part of my filter to Japanese culture and entertainment.

I know you love this series, and I would say that you commenting on my hypotheisis makes me think I might be on to something.

So it is then funny that people who know *some* English and *some* Japanese then think they might know all they need to know to properly understand a game based on concepts that are perhaps outside of their knowledge spheres, but not outside the spheres of the developers.

amakudaru,
Ch

[Kakizaki]

I can certainly think of one individual who that statement would apply to.

[Inzaghi]

If the Japanese is Deputo, "Deputo Heaven" is what the series is, I think. I hear alot of people say that "so-and-so's english is horrible". Does it ever occur to people that it might not be English?

Your reasoning is interesting (seriously!) but the hole in this theory is that it's not only rendered in kana. It clearly says "Dept. Heaven" in English letters on the Knights website.

[raum215]

If the Japanese is Deputo, "Deputo Heaven" is what the series is, I think. I hear alot of people say that "so-and-so's english is horrible". Does it ever occur to people that it might not be English?

Your reasoning is interesting (seriously!) but the hole in this theory is that it's not only rendered in kana. It clearly says "Dept. Heaven" in English letters on the Knights website.

Thank's for pointing me toward the site, and the BIG loophole in my hypothesis. I seriously haven't looked at it. Been plotting my second string in Etrian Odyssey (the first), and debating starting up Yggdra Union tonight on GBA. No chance it is not just mangled English letters on the front for the impression? In Japan, I saw products that had english on them that was borderline nonsense, but my Japanese/Hawaiian friend explained kana to me, and told me some of the english I see makes use of letters the same way. That was 14 years ago though...

Sidenote: My favorite sign I saw in Japan was in a bookstore that sold bootleg bahaus cd's. It said "The Sales Clerk will not service you for money." I think it meant "don't ask us for change or currency exchange", but I giggled nonetheless. I was informed it was rude to laugh.

Did Riviera and Yggdra Union have this marking on them? *checks pocket* My GBA copies don't. What are Dept. Heaven I, II, and III?

If it is in English... Dept. Heaven is "[The] Department of Heaven"

when abbreviated "Dept." means department, and does not include Participles or Prepositions. "The" is implied because it is a Formal Proper Noun. Dept. Heaven is not "a" Dept. of Heaven... it is "THE" Dept. of Heaven.

However, this is a neat (but not really directly there) thing I just noticed,
Dept. H...

depth.

things that make you go hmm..?[/i]

[Master Zombots]

^I believe that Riviera - The Promised Land is the first game, Yggdra Union is the second game, and Knights in the Nightmare is the fourth game in the series. The third has not yet been revealed.

[Chronis]

However, this is a neat (but not really directly there) thing I just noticed,
Dept. H...

depth.

things that make you go hmm..?

In the English trailer, right? I found that weird, too.

[Nibelungenlied]

aslo its pronounced dept not deputo if you watch the english trailer they say it

[raum215]

aslo its pronounced dept not deputo if you watch the english trailer they say it

I still haven't looked at the trailer, or finished a game in this series... and didn't look at the site before yesterday... I was replying to this previous post in this thread where it says the kana is written "deputo." Here is the exact statement that I mean:

No. First, it's called "Dept. Heaven"; no "of," no "the," and before you argue that "Dept." clearly means "Department," try to remember how many words have the letters 'd', 'e', 'p' and 't' in them in that order, * and then how TERRIBLE Sting is with English. Even in Japanese it's written デプト (deputo). Second, there has been no news of the third, let alone what console it's supposed to be for, aside from the passing mention "then where is episode three?!" under a short explanation of the Dept. Heaven series in the Famitsu article announcing Kitten (my nickname for KitN).
Anyways, it's April, so the official Kitten website should be up soon. Hell, tomorrow's the first Friday of April, and Sting usually reserves big updates for Fridays, so, maybe...

Furthermore: I was not saying this IS the meaning Sting implied, just saying this is A possible way Sting might not be tapping something other than the English language for this word. And furthermore, it is a meaning that only requires Sting has a few books and translated Caelum to "Heaven", which is an exact translation. I have no confidence that it is correct, but it is convenient and interesting. :)

Also here is my thinking, Sting made Baroque. Baroque is a Old French word, and they named a game that, even though most people who know English couldn't define Baroque without a search bar. And the name of that game is a DIRECT reference to irregularity in the pearl, as the "flaw that defines beauty" and the tragedy of creation, and that style of Architecture and even to a degree Music heavily draws off of the ideas of the church that were instilled by Pseudo-Dionysus. What is the kana of Baroque?

[Kakizaki]

aslo its pronounced dept not deputo if you watch the english trailer they say it

Back again?

[Futomimi]

Even though your theories may or may not be what Sting intended with the names of their projects, I'm really interested in what you're coming up with. Please keep us posted.

[jj984jj]

Another gameplay demonstration has been put up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hub58nfvzJY

This time they show both screens so you have a better idea of what's going on, it's still hard to figure out Sting games until you actually play it. I love how this looks.

[RayFoxSith]

This has me interested a little more.

[System_Error]

You know this game is pretty much guaranteed right? Atlus = Sting + Success

[RAGNELL]

looks pretty sweet, very interesting as well

[jeffx]

As a reminder, this comes out today along with World Destruction.

I really hope both get picked up!!! Not to mention Seventh Dragon, which looks sweet so far (screenshots (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/09/seventh_dragon.gif))

[shimo]

As a reminder, this comes out today along with World Destruction.

I really hope both get picked up!!! Not to mention Seventh Dragon, which looks sweet so far (screenshots (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/09/seventh_dragon.gif))
Me too, especially Knights in the Nightmare.

[Sei]

As a reminder, this comes out today along with World Destruction.

I really hope both get picked up!!! Not to mention Seventh Dragon, which looks sweet so far (screenshots (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/09/seventh_dragon.gif))

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[ShadowRaskolnik]

I'm hoping this will be published and released soon.

[lunarXskies]

The hell?
Sting just spoiled (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/lunarXskies/WTF.jpg) the game themselves on their Youtube channel
*the link has a spoiler...obviously*

[jeffx]

I thought this was common knowledge.

[lunarXskies]

How is it common knowledge?
Someone that hasn't been announced in either Famitsu or the main site, now appears in a game no one expects that said person to be in?
..and it's not their first time spoiling stuff for the game either...;;

...although...I can't really say, her, being there is a full-out spoiler unless she's plot-related...>

[jeffx]

I read about it somewhere, sometime ago. that's all, pipe down.

[unknown]

I like her new design a lot more then her past design

That spoiler image has now officially made me interested in this game >___>

[ShadowRaskolnik]

I don't really see how that spoils the game since Sting did state that this game along with Yggdra Union and Riviera: The Promised Land are part of a series called Dept. Heaven, I wouldn't be surprised if we find Milanor or Ein in the game.

[unknown]

Just because the games are in the same universe, it doesn't guarantee that they'll appear.

[ShadowRaskolnik]

That's true, but who knows.

[Rune]

I hope it means Kitten will have some sort of GBA insert capabilities, like Feel the Magic: XY/XX and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

Oh, please no. I hate when games do that. It generally comes down to the consumer either saying they will not buy the game on account of not wanting "the cheap version" or making the attempt to procure the game(s) required for that added functionality.

Mega Man ZX for the DS did that. You needed Megaman Zero 3 or 4 for the GBA. (I think both to get the most out of it.)

Mega Man Star Force for the DS did that. You need one of the GBA Battle Network games for a special scene and weapon. (AR works for the weapon, though...)

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for the GCN did that. You needed both Fire Emblem GBA games to get the most out of PoR. (It was the Sacred Stones game and whatever the other one before it was called.) Then of course you actually have to own a special cable and GBA/SP to connect it.

Those three I own, unfortunately without everything required, but other games have done it.

To me, video game companies are killing the quality (or the perceived quality--which I would also denote as being a cheap version--as in the case of Symphonia, explained below) of their games to aim for a higher revenue.

Similar things include remakes of old games, but those aren't really that bad, and give the people who missed out the first time a chance to experience the game. Where it gets bad is...well, I have one example. It makes me really upset, too. Tales of Symphonia was created on the GCN and made it's way to the U.S. This game was amazingly good. Then it gets thrown on the PS2 for Japan only, and was made far better than before; new costumes, special skills, scenes for story, etc. Namco really frustrated a lot of gamers with that move.

I truly hate having only the cheap version of games.

Now I do own Riviera for the GBA. It is the first Atlus game I purchased. They made a remake of that on the PSP, which I do not own. The PSP version of Yggdra Union just came out ten days ago, and I did get that. Let's say this new Dept. Heaven game comes out with added functionality requiring both GBA games to get the most out of it. Well, now I have to go and buy Yggdra Union for the GBA. Which reminds me, I meant to talk about this earlier. A company making a consumer search for a past game impossible to find new and at a good price is insanely unfair. I'm just going to say $30, the MSRP, because I don't actually know the price it's going for right now. That's money spent for the cheap version of Yggdra Union that I'll never play to improve Knights in the Nightmare, should Knights have the quoted "capability." (Capability has a connotation too positive for a value downgrade like this.) Heck, maybe you'll even be required to make some sort of progress in it and Riviera. Who wants to make progress in cheap versions of games when there are new and improved ones and both have ridiculously large lists requiring tons of time to complete? You've got to have an extremely ridiculous obsessive-compulsive disorder to raise that count from zero. I don't even try now with the GBA Riviera I own.

I found out that these games are part of a series today looking at Yggdra Union on Wikipedia, and now I have to bite the bullet and order Riviera for the PSP in an attempt to have the full versions of the games in the series. Not that it's a bad thing, but it will still take the health points out my wallet. It could really do with a level up right about now! Currently my interest rate is determining the TNL, so things aren't looking too good. (Also, from the looks of screenshots I downloaded to my PSP using the system's bookmarked PSP site, it looks like the character art is cut off a bit at the bottom and Cierra appears discolored. Can anyone verify that for me?) No way am I going to work on any more crazy tasks from the old games, let alone purchase one of them.

Now that's a bit of a mess of disorganized thoughts.
Anyway, I came to the forums and signed up to make sure the localization of Knights in the Nightmare was being spurred on, although I figured it would be, knowing how loyal Atlus fans are.

But seriously, Knights in the Nightmare should be a stand-alone product. Said "capabilities" should be included without the need for anything else. It should be the best it can be straight from the box. That would make it easy for the consumers to vote Yes! on "Prop Kitten."

[James Fiend]

I actually love it when games give you a sort of "loyalty" bonus. Koei used to do that with their ROTK series and it was always nice to get something extra for having shelled out in the past. The Megaman games you mentioned gave you really insignificant extras for having previous games and that's usually how it is. Most games give you an extra item or a very small sidequest for having a save or another game. I can think of Boktai, Castlevania, Metal Gear Solid, Feel The Magic and Digital Devil Saga 2 off the top of my head as games that give you insignificant extras for having saves or GBA inserts.

There are a few games where it really mattered like Shenmue and the old D&D computer games (and maybe Knights of the Old Republic?), because you could actually transfer your character over. Supposedly they are doing that with Mass Effect as well. I support that sort of thing fully, as long as there is a suitably advanced difficulty to accommodate your character.

I really doubt KitN will feature this anyway, but even if it did, it would be a nice bonus for those who bought Riviera and Yggdra Union when they actually came out. There's something to be said for people who bought the "cheaper version" and now have to deal with a new version with lots of extras, too.

[cj iwakura]

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for the GCN did that. You needed both Fire Emblem GBA games to get the most out of PoR. (It was the Sacred Stones game and whatever the other one before it was called.) Then of course you actually have to own a special cable and GBA/SP to connect it.

All this did was unlock extra artwork for the GBA games that you could view on PoR.

It was a nice touch, but hardly crucial.

[Rune]

I actually love it when games give you a sort of "loyalty" bonus. Koei used to do that with their ROTK series and it was always nice to get something extra for having shelled out in the past. The Megaman games you mentioned gave you really insignificant extras for having previous games and that's usually how it is. Most games give you an extra item or a very small sidequest for having a save or another game. I can think of Boktai, Castlevania, Metal Gear Solid, Feel The Magic and Digital Devil Saga 2 off the top of my head as games that give you insignificant extras for having saves or GBA inserts.

There are a few games where it really mattered like Shenmue and the old D&D computer games (and maybe Knights of the Old Republic?), because you could actually transfer your character over. Supposedly they are doing that with Mass Effect as well. I support that sort of thing fully, as long as there is a suitably advanced difficulty to accommodate your character.

I really doubt KitN will feature this anyway, but even if it did, it would be a nice bonus for those who bought Riviera and Yggdra Union when they actually came out. There's something to be said for people who bought the "cheaper version" and now have to deal with a new version with lots of extras, too.

Something to be said for them? Well, if it's only that by itself without compatibility for later games, I'd say tough luck. That's what I get for buying Riviera before Sigma Star Saga, and they go and make a better version on the PSP. (I went that route because I correctly predicted which one would last...or did I? A remake was beyond my scope.)

I own a couple games that let you transfer items and character stats, and I cannot deny that it is very nice to be able to do that sort of thing. Not owning the first would cause you to miss out on some things, like class possibilities, but it was of the sort where you needed the first anyway if you wanted to know what was going on in the story, so it's not a big deal. What I was trying to get at is that people who aren't fortunate enough to own the required components to enhance a game may be or feel barred from the full experience. You cannot deny that.

If this new game required Yggdra Union for the GBA, I would feel pretty ripped off, don't you think?

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for the GCN did that. You needed both Fire Emblem GBA games to get the most out of PoR. (It was the Sacred Stones game and whatever the other one before it was called.) Then of course you actually have to own a special cable and GBA/SP to connect it.

All this did was unlock extra artwork for the GBA games that you could view on PoR.

It was a nice touch, but hardly crucial.

And playable maps from what I hear. I actually haven't finished the game to enable the connection, so I haven't seen it firsthand.

[The Legendary Hero]

BTW, it's not merely Atlus USA employees listed in Kitten's credits, but Atlus USA itself:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Kirby101/Credits.jpg

[shimo]

^Where did you get that?

[jj984jj]

Haha, wow. If this wasn't already pretty much guaranteed, that just confirmed it 100%.

[RayFoxSith]

Would definitely like to see this brought over here.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Awesome!

[The Legendary Hero]

Haha, wow. If this wasn't already pretty much guaranteed, that just confirmed it 100%.

Not really. Atlus might have been contracted merely for the gratuitous amount of English text in the game, or to help with the English voice acting. They may have no hand in a localization of it.

But I wish they'd tell us they do. :(

[The Legendary Hero]

Oh and the game is awesome. I got it yesterday and have played it almost nonstop.

[James Fiend]

Something to be said for them? Well, if it's only that by itself without compatibility for later games, I'd say tough luck. That's what I get for buying Riviera before Sigma Star Saga, and they go and make a better version on the PSP. (I went that route because I correctly predicted which one would last...or did I? A remake was beyond my scope.)

I own a couple games that let you transfer items and character stats, and I cannot deny that it is very nice to be able to do that sort of thing. Not owning the first would cause you to miss out on some things, like class possibilities, but it was of the sort where you needed the first anyway if you wanted to know what was going on in the story, so it's not a big deal. What I was trying to get at is that people who aren't fortunate enough to own the required components to enhance a game may be or feel barred from the full experience. You cannot deny that.

If this new game required Yggdra Union for the GBA, I would feel pretty ripped off, don't you think?


If it required Yggdra Union for the GBA, it would be an insane business decision. It's like making a non-standalone expansion for a game that is out of print on an older system.

I think it comes down to the difference between "full experience" and "small bonus." It was kind of a pain to hunt down Yggdra Union and Riviera for GBA, and later a better version is released for the PSP. I'm not complaining, but if you were going to get some sort of bonus for owning one version or the other, it seems a little more fair to give it to those who own the otherwise inferior version.

[The Legendary Hero]

The ONLY thing YU being in the GBA slot does that I've discovered so far is have Yggdra host the tutorial.

[Onion of Mystery]

On the plus side, I'm pretty sure they'd never port KitN to the PSP, unless Sony creates a touchscreen version.

[Rune]

If it required Yggdra Union for the GBA, it would be an insane business decision. It's like making a non-standalone expansion for a game that is out of print on an older system.

I think it comes down to the difference between "full experience" and "small bonus." It was kind of a pain to hunt down Yggdra Union and Riviera for GBA, and later a better version is released for the PSP. I'm not complaining, but if you were going to get some sort of bonus for owning one version or the other, it seems a little more fair to give it to those who own the otherwise inferior version.

I had thought of it in similar terms. To give small additions (not advantageous ones) and call it a consolation gift seems fair enough.

Yet it still tears me apart somewhat, personally...
Like what The Legendary Hero brought up. If I could at least view that in English on YouTube or something, I suppose that would suffice for me. But seriously, who would make a video of that?

I don't think there's much of a chance of getting the GBA version. Before Nintendo screwed up--I mean, remodeled their site, I believe Yggdra Union was on the top 10 of the most wanted list. I think it was that list... That's what sparked my interest in the first place. Actually, I believe that's the reason why I'm even here now.

An old game with high merits like that must be nigh impossible to get a hold of... Hm... Now I just want to check and see.

Edit: Over...forty...dollars...

Edit: Oh, it shows her on the site... Yggdra got a graphical update.
http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/index.htm
Under Special, second to last option. Oh, and I hear there was a special package of the GBA Yggdra Union with KitN. Will Atlus offer that same deal over here?

[shimo]

On the plus side, I'm pretty sure they'd never port KitN to the PSP, unless Sony creates a touchscreen version.
Very true.
By the way does anyone believe that Maria looks like a reincarnation of Aegina from Yggdra Union or is it just me?

[Cascade Range]

I wouldn't be surprised. There's so many homages to other episodes within the Dept. Heaven Series.

Like the secret boss inYggdra Union PSP, or the Fanelia.

[shimo]

True,it's one big mystery.

[Ruquion]

O Atlus, do us a favor and continue to localize these wonderful, beautiful, original games from Sting. Please continue to consider bringing KiTN over. Hell, just announce it. Do it. Arrange a meeting with Sting. NAO.

[The Legendary Hero]

The secret boss in YUPSP is not a homage to the other DHE games, it is a direct relationship, allowing YU to further the timeline. Kitten does in fact relate the games even further, and I can only assume that, since Episode III takes place at the same time as Kitten (though likely on a different world as with the other episodes) that it will likely be the main glue between all the games.

[Ruquion]

I'm pretty sure Kitten takes place during Ragnarok, right?

[Cascade Range]

The secret boss in YUPSP is not a homage to the other DHE games, it is a direct relationship, allowing YU to further the timeline. Kitten does in fact relate the games even further, and I can only assume that, since Episode III takes place at the same time as Kitten (though likely on a different world as with the other episodes) that it will likely be the main glue between all the games.
If you think about it. It's a homage.

They could just as easily imply that it's the next episode without adding anything from the other series.

Look at it for GBA, the only thing they had in Yggdra Union was the Fanelia from Riviera. That's the only thing from another Dept. Heaven game (that I know of), and it is an item in game (which essentially makes it a secret because there's no item you need to get in game, but of course, everything you need to go through to get the Fanelia... *ramble*). But save the Fanelia, and the secret boss from the PSP version. They're homages.

[The Legendary Hero]

Fanelia was NOT the only thing in YU from Riviera. There were numerous things, such as a subplot regarding the World Tree.
And you don't know what a homage is - a homage, in the literary sense, is an allusion to a work influential to the working paying said homage. God that was an awkward sentence. However, the point is it's not a homage if it develops the series' plot.

[Rune]

On the plus side, I'm pretty sure they'd never port KitN to the PSP, unless Sony creates a touchscreen version.
Very true.
By the way does anyone believe that Maria looks like a reincarnation of Aegina from Yggdra Union or is it just me?
I was wondering about that...

After figuring out what the name of Ein's Diviner meant...well, it makes me wonder if certain characters will end up coming back somehow.

I sure wish they would. Yggdra Union is great fun, but it makes you feel pretty low with the tyrannical slaughtering.

Maybe the main character should have been Hitler.

Hitler: "Justice lies with the Holy Sword!"

Um... I hope you didn't interpret that the wrong way. I'm not trying to imply that it would be fun for Hitler to be the main character, [Possible spoilers] or that Ishiene, Emelone, Canaan, Monica, and the like are Jewish or anything... I'd better shut up now.

[Ruquion]

Hitler Union? He already had one of those.

[jeffx]

Siliconera has a nice little hands-on report (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/10/06/knights-in-the-nightmare-a-taste-of-a-shooterstrategy-rpg-smoothie/).

[The Legendary Hero]

After figuring out what the name of Ein's Diviner meant If only the original Japanese name wasn't different.

[Cascade Range]

After figuring out what the name of Ein's Diviner meant If only the original Japanese name wasn't different.
What's the Japanese name for it? o_O

[The Legendary Hero]

Excellion.

[Rune]

Why stop there? Also in Riviera's manual:
Ein > Ecthel
Rose > Rothe
Lina > Lyuri
Accursed > Infernos
Banango > Bananan
Applecot > Kokori
Gateau > Millefeuilles
Sage > Wise

I don't know why some names aren't in roomaji. I don't know how to pronounce them like that.

According to Wikipedia, Excellion is the name of a character from a Transformers show. That doesn't sound related to Einherjar at all... So you're saying they changed the name just for fun, huh... It was a loose theory in the first place. But those two character pictures look a lot alike on the KitN site (Special, third from bottom). Though it could be the same character in both places, maybe upgraded or something.

I can't read it. Hey, Hero, you play Japanese games, right? You said you bought KitN already. Can you translate...maybe that whole site?!
Go! Sic that kana and kanji! Sic 'em!

(I caught Mr. Bat in Riviera...)

[The Legendary Hero]

Spoiling isn't really my thing. I've already had certain major things in Kitten spoiled for me, but I'm not exactly far enough to spoil anything myself.

[Rune]

Oh, it'd spoil it? Then please do keep silent.

I always did love me some good RPG storylines.

[The Legendary Hero]

I really do hope they localize it. I can understand some Japanese, but I know I'm missing out on some of the story. I'll say this much, it's really depressing, the atmosphere is very dark (hello, Nightmare), and it's goddamn epic.

[punidrop]

Excellion is the name of a character from a Transformers show. That doesn't sound related to Einherjar at all...

I can't read Japanese but I don't think It's Excellion.
Since our wingless angel bears the name Ecthel, his weapon should be "Ecthelion" (Ein and Einherjar, likewise)

Ecthel means "point of spear" in Sindarin.
I know nothing of Sindarin word building, so I guess '-ion' means something like "son".

link to Sindarin dictionary:
http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sindar/online/sindar/dict-sd-en.html

It's one of languages invented by J.R.R. Tolkien, used in The Lord of the Ring.


So you're saying they changed the name just for fun, huh...

They should never change the name, Ecthel sounds really cool for me.
Name-changing localization ruined beutifulness of many games...

[The Legendary Hero]

Excellion is correct. Ecthel isn't. Ecthel was supposed to be Excel.
Sting is stupid. Hence why we also ended up with names like Rothe.

[Omatic]

I hope this gets localized, although seeing Sting's last titles localized, and the amount of English already in the game, leads me to believe that we'll see it in the U.S.

The game looks really great, I look forward to playing it.

[Gunloc]

I would love to see this game brought over.

[four_black_hearts]

I really hope they're working on this right now!

Too bad about Episode 3! :(

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/109/109061/index-2.html

[The Legendary Hero]

I'm thinking that Atlus might not be bringing it out.

[jj984jj]

I really hope they're working on this right now!

Too bad about Episode 3! :(

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/109/109061/index-2.html

Episode 3 is going to be on PC, an online game? Can someone translate that part clearly please?

[valiant]

Do not expect it at all.

It is an MMO

[Tatsuki]

I... can't even believe that Sting would pull that on us.

A home console game, heck even a cellphone game would have been fine, because it could hold the option for a handheld port.

But a PC MMORPG I have no idea what to do with. :(

[jj984jj]

:(

Well... at least they still did this game, right? Hopefully they do a single player version of the story in EPIII on a console or handheld one day.

[four_black_hearts]

Sting's project is on hold anyway, and new dept. heaven cellphone games are coming out all the time. We can still hope that their plans for episode 3 will undergo some conceptual changes.

[shimo]

I was checking KitN website and two awesome things which makes me very happy. And since it's on the website it's not much of a spoiler. The first one is Yggdra is NPC is shown here:

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/982/89666718ni8.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89666718ni8.jpg)http://img372.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

It's not on image but one of the videos she appears as an NPC.
The other awesome thing is Pamela is also in game and playable as seen here:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2424/49105283jt7.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=49105283jt7.jpg)http://img395.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Uncertain, but you will need Yggdra Union for GBA to unlock them both for the game.

[Sei]

Can't wait for the PSP version of this!.

Day one if Atlus does the Japanese LE thing and releases with YU. Else I has no GBA YU game :(.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Can't wait for the PSP version of this!
You and your special touch-screen PSP!:mad:

[Sei]

I hate touch controls :P

[SickleCellAnemia]

^I thought you liked touching OH SNAP OH SNAP

[Olethros]

^ She definitely likes salami.

[Einherjar]

I want to see Ecthel.
Other than that, I would like to say that the box art sucked.

[swordsmanofred]

Atlus, please port this over to the U.S. I saw the gameplay for this game and found the game system and story very interesting. I would definitely buy this for my DS if this gets released here.

[Tatsuki]

Can't wait for the PSP version of this!.
How can it even work without the touchscreen? That sounds like biased whining to me.

And it does seem you need the Yggdra Union GBA cart to unlock Pamela. A pity since I only have the PSP version.

[Kakizaki]

^Easy dude. I don't think Sei is whining about anything.

[lunarXskies]

Can't wait for the PSP version of this!.
How can it even work without the touchscreen? That sounds like biased whining to me.
It was obviously a joke >>;

[Tatsuki]

My apologies. :(

Can't tell anymore nowadays, with all the bickering...

[Olethros]

^ Really fella, this is nothing. A few minor disagreements are inevitable and almost always work themselves out amicably.

Let's not make a mountain out of a few mole hills, eh?

[Kakizaki]

^Well said.

[four_black_hearts]

So...

Yes, Please?

[Alone]

Argghh, why so long! With the amount of English available, it could have been localised in time for Christmas :(

And still no official announcement. Can't you just start posting hints in the newsletter?

[four_black_hearts]

Give 'em some time! There's a serious amount of translation for just the names of the characters and items, let alone the story. Quite a bit more difficult than, say, "My World, My Way" :(

[shimo]

They might not announce this game until first quarter 2009.Maybe.

[swordsmanofred]

Kinda strange since Atlus announced the NA releases of Riviera and YU during the Japanese development. Getting little uneasy here...

[The Legendary Hero]

I'm pretty sure it's not coming. At least not by Atlus's hands.

[shimo]

It will come, give them time.

[System_Error]

I'm pretty sure it's not coming. At least not by Atlus's hands.

Atlus is very busy right now I'm sure

with
My World, My Way
Legacy of Ys
Trackmania

and probably
Devil Summoner RK vs KA

[four_black_hearts]

Seriously! There's over 200 characters!

[jeffx]

I'm pretty sure it's not coming. At least not by Atlus's hands.

Atlus is very busy right now I'm sure

with
My World, My Way
Legacy of Ys
Trackmania

and probably
Devil Summoner RK vs KA


I can see the first two being time-consuming, but the third is more of a marketing effort, now?

[System_Error]

Very True, I was just saying Atlus is releasing 4 games this Q1 probably if not DS in Q2, which is when I expect KitN as well.

[illogicaldreamr]

I'm pretty sure it's not coming. At least not by Atlus's hands.

Atlus is very busy right now I'm sure

with
My World, My Way
Legacy of Ys
Trackmania

and probably
Devil Summoner RK vs KA


Really hoping for Devil Summoner above all the other games.

Atlus is really loving the DS lately.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I second Devil Summoner RK VS KA

[The Legendary Hero]

Atlus has been busier than four games before.
Actually, I can't remember a recent time when they weren't working on four or more games at once.

[four_black_hearts]

Keep the devil summoning where it belongs.

[jj984jj]

I'm pretty sure it's not coming. At least not by Atlus's hands.

j/k? Atlus USA already worked on the JPN version, why would they pass on it now?

[swordsmanofred]

It may be due to KitN's moderate sale in Japan (worse than Riviera and YU) that they are delaying the announcement. Not to mention all those big releases that people at Atlus are working on for next few months such as Persona 4. But that still shouldn't prevent it from coming over since there are decent number of fans for Dept. Heaven series here. I am almost positive KitN will make decent sales if it comes over. I highly doubt Atlus will pass this on since Atlus released Riviera and YU twice respectively. Around February (when three out of four games that Atlus is bringing are released here) at latest, there should be some announcement on other games that Atlus is bringing over. We should just wait by then to decide.

[four_black_hearts]

Hopefully Atlus will take a hint and not release it the same day as the new Pokemon, Super Robot Wars, and the massively over-hyped Wold Destruction. I believe KitN would've fared much better on another day.

[swordsmanofred]

True. Maybe they are waiting for other companies' announcements for all other major releases in 2009 so they don't make that mistake.

[The Legendary Hero]

Atlus USA already worked on the JPN version, why would they pass on it now? It's not like they worked on it for free. They got their pay and they're moving on.

[Alone]

Wait, what? Is Super Robot Taisen DS getting localised?

[swordsmanofred]

It's not like they worked on it for free. They got their pay and they're moving on.

That still raises a question as to why Sting would bother to hire Atlus for putting English text and voice in the game.