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MetalSlugIV
11-09-2009, 10:02 AM
I'm on a pure mage build now. I'm upgrading the Kris Blade in the left hand. I have the ring of magical sharpness on at all times and the Monk's headwrappings. Is it worth it to put points into faith just to use the talisman of beasts? I'm using this character to get my last trophy (the sage's trophy for learning all spells). I read that the magic attack power is higher than the silver catalyst but are those points better spent in magic power?

Gawain
11-09-2009, 10:58 AM
I ended up getting the 18 Faith to use it, for multiple reasons. It also allows me to use the Blueblood sword, as well as some miracles. I tend to run with either evacuate or Second Chance. Nothing like being able to teleport out, or be able to die and get revived instantly.

It just helps add to the repetoire of things you bring, and I found it to be really helpful.

obie191970
11-09-2009, 12:17 PM
If you have no interest on the Faith side, then you should look into the Insanity instead of Beasts. You may need to pump intelligence a little more and really stock up on spices.

I love the Beast, but I use a good mix on both sides so the convenience outweighs all other factors for me.

MetalSlugIV
11-09-2009, 12:24 PM
I plan on getting intelligence up to 40 since at that point spell slots no longer increase. I considered making the insanity catalyst but it is out of the question this run because I want to use the Yellow Demon's soul for homing soul arrow. Since I won't be farming this run I guess I will use the Old Hero's soul to get second chance and that will require 16 faith for the two slots anyway. So I after considering my options talisman of beasts it is then!

MisoSowee
11-09-2009, 12:31 PM
You don't understand how awesome second chance is for me as a mage. It's AWESOME :D

MetalSlugIV
11-10-2009, 06:59 AM
Second chance just saved me in PvP. Some faith build invaded me in 1-3. He dodged my firestorm and then used Wrath of God on me. Second chance kicked in and I was able to run away. Full heal, cast another second chance and then come back. I think he was waiting around a corner for me. He shouldn't of given me that chance because instead of getting in range for firestorm I just used Homing Soul Arrow and it one hit him! Second chance is my favorite miracle now!

skottey
11-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Second chance is my favorite miracle now!

I replaced my occasionally used "evacuate" in my miracle carrying capacity with the "second chance" and also use that instead of my "warding" (total protection) on the magic side, allowing me to carry both the firestorm and fireball with my magic slots. I always enter a level with 99 fresh spice and a few old spice if I have them. If I don't have 99 fresh spice, I go to 1-4 and farm one or two runs and buy them off the blacksmith for 300 each.

I am liking the "second chance" but found that I got myself pinned in 5-1 on NG+ and was killed, second chance revived, and killed very quickly. Warding would have protected me in those cases enough to not die and I could firestorm or melee my way out (especially the giant trolls). So, my take on "second chance" is that you kind of have to change the way you play. You absolutely cannot get pinned but it is great in instances of 1 shot kills via the enemies ranged attack.