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blammo
11-07-2009, 07:49 PM
How the heck do you kill this fella? Have you been able to kill it before the second one shows up? I have been farming and using broadsword +6 with the gloom armor and still no luck. Any hints?
lesky1369
11-07-2009, 08:02 PM
you can actually kill the first one through fog door. otherwise try to stay in the middle area and keep the fire between you. thats what i did. co-op is good too
GuyIncognito
11-07-2009, 08:06 PM
How the heck do you kill this fella? Have you been able to kill it before the second one shows up? I have been farming and using broadsword +6 with the gloom armor and still no luck. Any hints?
To do it legitimately, try using the fire pot as a shield against their attacks. You can go behind it to heal and cast warding on yourself (if you have it), once in a while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uir_NE6ulaY
BTW, if you equip garl vinland's shield (without even wielding it) you get a magic defense bonus.
Saint_Lucifer
11-08-2009, 01:35 AM
Id say get a friend who has demons souls get them to place there soul sign then what you do is both concentrate on the first one then when the second one comes up just switch and leave your partner to kill the other one while you kill the main one!!
If your on your first playthrough id use moving soul arrow and soul light!
It helps!
HijiriOni
11-08-2009, 05:27 AM
Also fun facts if you have a friend helping. The man eaters get retarded if the phantom stays outside the fog shooting through it. It will randomly charge the fog and try to attack the phantom but it can't get through the fog.
LxLgn
11-08-2009, 06:42 AM
Use firestorm, but if you can't then concentrate on cutting the tails off first then just dodge their charges.
Also don't try to fight both of them while on the straight pathway. Instead fight them around that torch on the platform.
It makes dodging easier and keeping track of both them possible.
obie191970
11-08-2009, 07:18 AM
To do it legitimately
Actually, I kind of thinking that FROM has that in there on purpose. It's the only area with two bosses and the only area where you can actually fire an arrow through the fog - On top of that, the majority of bosses have a cut scene before they show up and this one is just sitting there in view. They have released patches to the Asian version and localized the game for the US and that is still in there - Methinks that these are a lot of coincidences to be a glitch.
GuyIncognito
11-08-2009, 08:10 AM
To do it legitimately
Actually, I kind of thinking that FROM has that in there on purpose.
Then, I shouldn't feel bad for doing it, as well? ;) ...the second maneater *almost* killed me, though. BTW, I noticed a hint when fighting old hero. There is a safe spot behind a set of stairs that lead to nowhere. The treasure on those stairs is a set of arrows...
obie191970
11-08-2009, 08:19 AM
BTW, I noticed a hint when fighting old hero. There is a safe spot behind a set of stairs that lead to nowhere. The treasure on those stairs is a set of arrows...
For a ranged character, that is the place to be.
LemonFrosted
11-08-2009, 08:38 AM
It was actually this boss that got me thinking about a really strange idea (I had to door cheese the first one, my character was just too fragile to survive an unlucky charge+charge): a lot of the game is very similar to, if not outright, a puzzle game. Puzzle games tend to be extremely time consuming on the first play through, but fractionally so the second and third. Anecdotal example is that Ico took my ~18 hours for my first playthrough, then when I accidentally saved over my end-game file while showing my GF the opening cut scene we went beginning to end in a single sitting of a little over 2 hours.
The point is: what if by design or accident they created something that's so hard it basically boils down to "find the exploit"? Now, on one hand "find the exploit" sounds like it'd completely negate the majority of the challenge, but that already happens with most puzzle games and even most of the puzzle game segments in DS. Sure, the Dragon God puzzle segment is still tricky to pull off even once you know it, but the Old Hero and Storm Lord aren't. At all. In fact once you know the trick the Old Hero you can keep your risk profile to zero for the entire fight. Even cheesing Maneater you still have to fight the second one face to face.
LemonFrosted
11-08-2009, 08:47 AM
To do it legitimately
Actually, I kind of thinking that FROM has that in there on purpose.
Then, I shouldn't feel bad for doing it, as well? ;) ...the second maneater *almost* killed me, though. BTW, I noticed a hint when fighting old hero. There is a safe spot behind a set of stairs that lead to nowhere. The treasure on those stairs is a set of arrows...
Even better advice: shoot once then wait. If you shoot 2-3 times in a row (or hit him with your sword) he'll leap at you and mess up your day. If you shoot once he'll do a stumble animation, shout, and then go back to what he was doing. Wait for the shout then shoot again: he'll never pinpoint you in the room. This works for melee too, as long as you're walking quietly: walk in, chop, walk out.
tic2000
11-08-2009, 03:23 PM
I used thief ring and poison cloud. When I first entered I just ran towards the exit and hide between some pillars. When the 2nd Maneater appeared it flyed around and then stoped. I walked behind and used poison cloud. 4 clouds and it died. Then I walked to the other who was watching towards the entrance. Again poison cloud. They don't move at all if they can't hear you, even if they take damge from the poison.
GuyIncognito
11-08-2009, 05:14 PM
I used thief ring and poison cloud. When I first entered I just ran towards the exit and hide between some pillars. When the 2nd Maneater appeared it flyed around and then stoped. I walked behind and used poison cloud. 4 clouds and it died. Then I walked to the other who was watching towards the entrance. Again poison cloud. They don't move at all if they can't hear you, even if they take damge from the poison.
Interesting. I just looked in the strategy guide. Their poison and plague resistance is "strong." So if poison worked, maybe so would plague--and you only have to cast it once. I'll definitely try that.
Septiego
11-08-2009, 06:52 PM
If you have Firestorm, you can use the fire brazer in the middle of the area as cover and cast the spell when Man-eater gets near. In most cases it'll one shot kill him (or at least take a very significant chunk of his HP) and you won't even have to worry about the second one showing up while you still have the first to deal with.
Soulless One
11-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Im in my NG +++ with my knight, and that beast went down with two firestorm
jsbradley7
11-08-2009, 10:05 PM
BTW, I noticed a hint when fighting old hero. There is a safe spot behind a set of stairs that lead to nowhere. The treasure on those stairs is a set of arrows...
He got me on the stairs so this isn't 100%. I move up the right hand side and shot him in the back. When he starts heading back I back into the corner and hit the O button which puts me flush with the wall. Haven't gotten hit here yet (knocking on wood).
GuyIncognito
11-08-2009, 11:13 PM
He got me on the stairs so this isn't 100%. I move up the right hand side and shot him in the back. When he starts heading back I back into the corner and hit the O button which puts me flush with the wall. Haven't gotten hit here yet (knocking on wood).
I never actually went up the stairs--I stayed at the bottom of the stairs. I noticed there were arrows up there, after the fight.
Zorael
11-09-2009, 04:37 AM
Depending on your weapon they can be pushovers, too. I have a blessed Mirdan Hammer, and each twohanded swing took maybe 15-20% off of each gargoyle.
When I ran in and waited for the first one, he conveniently got bit by his own tail right away, giving me four free swings. Then I had to back off and wait for him to pounce, but once he did it (and I dodged it), he was pretty much dead.
The only thing I can say is that if you try to duke it out in melee and you manage to get the timing down with regards to dodging, only allow yourself one swing and then back off. Too often have I started a longer combo than I had time for and gotten pounced when I should've backed off to await the next opportunity.
And yes, you can kill the first one from the other side of the fog with a bow.
jedbeetle
11-09-2009, 10:59 AM
Id say get a friend who has demons souls get them to place there soul sign then what you do is both concentrate on the first one then when the second one comes up just switch and leave your partner to kill the other one while you kill the main one!!
If your on your first playthrough id use moving soul arrow and soul light!
It helps!
How could you have moving soul arrow on your first playthrough of the maneaters?
Just curse their mothers every time you die. Then go kill people as the old monk to make yourself feel better. You'll come back all refreshed.
Oh and summon help.
Dominions
11-09-2009, 11:06 AM
I never knew about being able to run up to the brazier, I've just been meleeing the things dead near the doorway. Warding is an awesome spell against the Maneaters, I just get up in their face with a greataxe and start swinging. You're immune to stagger and knockdown while in the attack animation so no worries about getting tossed off the bridge, though you've gotta watch out where you dodge lol.
It was tough, especially melee against both at once as the second maneater showed up when the first was down to 20%
Wolfram
11-09-2009, 02:53 PM
I found this boss fairly easy. Died first time and learned his attacks, killed them 2nd time. I'm playing a fully armored knight, using dragon longsword +5 and tower shield lvl 60. The 2nd maneater certainly surprised me but I just smacked down the first one's final bit of HP before the 2nd one got in to close (I think I dodged it's first charge so I had a few seconds). I fought them on the first walkway... didn't even think about getting up on the platform lol. These guys aren't that powerful, I could block anything they dished, and by simply strafing around when they did normal attacks I could get in a couple swings, chopped their tails off right away although I wasn't really meaning to heh. I can imagine them being a huge pain in the butt as a lightly armored class, tho. Then again, most bosses would be.
tomoe
11-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Firestorm takes care of him in short order. Use Warding so you can get in close without fear of retribution for his melee attacks.
pktazn
11-09-2009, 05:24 PM
BTW, I noticed a hint when fighting old hero. There is a safe spot behind a set of stairs that lead to nowhere. The treasure on those stairs is a set of arrows...
For a ranged character, that is the place to be.
Actually you can just shoot him from one of the corner's after entering the fog if you're going for a ranged kill. Just walk over to a corner, get really close to a pillar, shoot him, hide behind the pillar and wait until he roars (make sure you're completely hidden though otherwise he'll see you), rinse, lather, repeat.
I found it safer to do that than trying to get all the way to those stairs... which I saw after I beat him lol.
Edit: Crap I forgot to post about the Maneater. I was able to win by running to the brazier and using firestorm on the first one and then actually fighting the second one. I would say careful rolling is your friend but really, patience is key. If you're too brash they'll just double-team and shove you off the edge :S
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