Ignition grabs Arc Rise Fantasia

[Pixel]

Ignition has stolen (http://www.siliconera.com/2009/10/22/ignition-grabs-arc-rise-fantasia-from-xseed/) Arc Rise Fantasia from XSeed a la Muramasa. Look forward to another quality localization from Entalize (http://www.entalize.co.jp/) with an emphasis on paraphrasing. RPGamer (http://www.rpgamer.com/games/valknights/valknightses/valknightsesint.html) foreshadowed the exchange of rights 8 days ago:
How is Arc Rise Fantasia holding up? We've been curious about this one for a while now and it just doesn't seem to be getting the love it deserves.
We have no new updates on Arc Rise Fantasia at this time, but you'll see something announced about the latest status on that project sometime soon.What's going on here? Is XSeed in trouble? Is Marvelous being fickle? Can we look forward to Ignition stealing licenses from other companies?

Merge if there already was an official thread.

[poiuiu]

There is no suitable response to this other than hahahahahahahaha.

And I highly doubt this is 'stolen' as it's more like Ignition took up the table scraps of something XSEED bailed out/purged/omitted/rejected/thrown out/trimming off some unneeded fat.

Not trolling the game or anything, but this news is hil.ar.i.ous.

[slayn]

So long as the game comes out I'm happy. I do love my cliched RPGs.

[Lorinosan]

This infuriates me to no end because Ignition sucks at text heavy games with their horrid "Engrish".

I want to hit something...badly...

[kat_ears_kahrain]

This infuriates me to no end because Ignition sucks at text heavy games with their horrid "Engrish".

I want to hit something...badly...

*pat* *pat* Me too... me too...

[Macheath]

This is a disappointing news. I've been kind of scared of Ignition after what they did to Lux Pain. Man, I've been waiting for this game forever and the new release date is Summer of 2010...great....

[jeffx]

The best way they can redeem the horrible delay is by restoring the underboob cleavage (http://wii.nintendolife.com/news/2009/03/arc_rise_fantasia_n_now_with_100_percent_less_unde rboob).

[Pixel]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18157056&postcount=106
ARF will assuredly be the most ambitious localization that Ignition has tackled to date, and I can guarantee that we won't allow another error-filled Lux-Pain scenario to unfold, nor will we leave the spoken dialog in Japanese with English subtitles. ARF will receive a full English localization, and we're sending a producer from our office to Japan to oversee the recording process.

I absolutely love JRPGs, and I'll do everything in my power to ensure that we handle image epoch's game with care.

Also, if you're a fan of the genre, don't forget about Tecmo/RED/Matrix's Nostalgia, shipping next week for Nintendo DS!
This keeps getting better.

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

Wow. I probably won't pick this up then.

[AdrianMorales]

First the underboob and now this. Why can't we have skanky ladies in RPGs anyway?

[Yet Another Tim]

Is it just I, or am I under the impression that Marvelous is going SNK's route (read: letting Ignition publish their own games)?

[Gen Eric Gui]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18157056&postcount=106
ARF will assuredly be the most ambitious localization that Ignition has tackled to date, and I can guarantee that we won't allow another error-filled Lux-Pain scenario to unfold, nor will we leave the spoken dialog in Japanese with English subtitles. ARF will receive a full English localization, and we're sending a producer from our office to Japan to oversee the recording process.

I absolutely love JRPGs, and I'll do everything in my power to ensure that we handle image epoch's game with care.

Also, if you're a fan of the genre, don't forget about Tecmo/RED/Matrix's Nostalgia, shipping next week for Nintendo DS!
This keeps getting better.

This sounds like a good thing, (They aknowledge that they've done a poor job at localizing in the past, and are seeking to improve things), but this post resonates with a sarcastic tone. I'm as disappointed as anyone that XSEED isn't going to handle this fully, but it sounds to me like Ignition is taking this seriously, and I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they can admit to their past mistakes.

[Zacewing]

This is quite sad, but I'll still be getting the game unless the translation is so awful that the game is unplayable.

But....Summer 2010....

teerz. :'(

[Pixel]

This sounds like a good thing, (They aknowledge that they've done a poor job at localizing in the past, and are seeking to improve things), but this post resonates with a sarcastic tone. I'm as disappointed as anyone that XSEED isn't going to handle this fully, but it sounds to me like Ignition is taking this seriously, and I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they can admit to their past mistakes.

Bettenhausen made similar promises when they announced Muramasa. Although there weren't any huge mistakes, Entalize paraphrased large sections of dialogue, and for that reason the localization could've been better. Now Ignition has announced that ARF will add English VA but still will be localized entirely overseas. Who knows, it might turn out to be a quality RPG, but right now anything more than an incremental improvement over Muramasa sounds like a longshot.

Also, if Ignition can show that they're serious about localization rather than cranking out a half-hearted effort or worse yet joking about it (http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16283175&postcount=1062), then I'll find less reason to be sarcastic about their company's strategy. I think that's fair.

[Lorinosan]

This sounds like a good thing, (They aknowledge that they've done a poor job at localizing in the past, and are seeking to improve things), but this post resonates with a sarcastic tone. I'm as disappointed as anyone that XSEED isn't going to handle this fully, but it sounds to me like Ignition is taking this seriously, and I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they can admit to their past mistakes.

Wasn't that the very same thing that happened with Lux Pain though? Correct me if I'm wrong.

That reminds me...why on God's green earth am I buying Nostalgia again? >.<

[Yet Another Tim]

Shane, if there's a mistranslation, then, I'll blame you.

[Gen Eric Gui]

This sounds like a good thing, (They aknowledge that they've done a poor job at localizing in the past, and are seeking to improve things), but this post resonates with a sarcastic tone. I'm as disappointed as anyone that XSEED isn't going to handle this fully, but it sounds to me like Ignition is taking this seriously, and I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt if they can admit to their past mistakes.

Wasn't that the very same thing that happened with Lux Pain though? Correct me if I'm wrong.

That reminds me...why on God's green earth am I buying Nostalgia again? >.<

Did they even translate text-heavy games prior to Lux-Pain? All I can remember are action games like Metal Slug.

And I didn't have any problems with Muramasa's translation, so I'm not really sure where all the hate on that one is coming from. Maybe I just have lower standards.

[Pixel]

RPGamer (http://www.rpgamer.com/rpgcast/rpgcast102.mp3) has nice insight into how this deal went down. Summarized here (http://board.rpgamer.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=20644;st=40#entry458204).

[jeffx]

I played Nostalgia yesterday. The first hour or so is rife with typos and dubious "English" sentences. Totally killed it for me, otherwise it looks like a fine RPG. But I think I spent more time scrutinizing the script for more typos than actually trying to get into the plot.

I mean god damn, there's a menu item that says "Adventuers". To me that's just insulting. There's also a severe lack of apostrophes, as if they were allergic to them or something.

[Macheath]

^Oh, no, typos don't sound good:frown:. They are annoying and kill the game. Now I'm even more scared about Ignition picking up Arc Rise Fantasia.

[Hraesvelgr]

There's also a severe lack of apostrophes, as if they were allergic to them or something.Perhaps they should have stolen some commas from Way of the Samurai 3, where they're inserted into nearly every sentence in places where they make absolutely no sense.

[Yet Another Tim]

^Oh, no, typos don't sound good. :frown: They are annoying and kill the game. Now I'm even more scared about Ignition picking up Arc Rise Fantasia.

I just hope that Ignition USA would hire grammar Nazis, seeing how the prior already released three games with typos in a row already.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Honestly, as long as I can tell what's going on and the game is fun I don't give half a crap about typos. Of course it's better if there aren't any, but it feels silly to me to let something like typos seriously hinder your enjoyment of a videogame.

[kat_ears_kahrain]

Honestly, as long as I can tell what's going on and the game is fun I don't give half a crap about typos. Of course it's better if there aren't any, but it feels silly to me to let something like typos seriously hinder your enjoyment of a videogame.

Ya, bot Ignition haz prabloms with rally bed typos. or worse... setnace no centz. it duz effet my enjyment when thar r just stupid tipos that a 5t grdr wood not mcuk up.

Ther's also teh voize werk in LUX-PAIN that dont evan mach what teh tesht sez. (Spoken: New York, Text: Shibuya)

[jeffx]

Honestly, as long as I can tell what's going on and the game is fun I don't give half a crap about typos. Of course it's better if there aren't any, but it feels silly to me to let something like typos seriously hinder your enjoyment of a videogame.

dude, my point is that playing this game makes me feel like I'm a fricking English teacher, not a regular gamer trying to have some fun with an otherwise decent RPG. But yeah I'll totally admit to being a grammar nazi. Still...

ADVENTUERS

How the hell could this slip through? Play it you'll see what I mean. It's everywhere.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Honestly, as long as I can tell what's going on and the game is fun I don't give half a crap about typos. Of course it's better if there aren't any, but it feels silly to me to let something like typos seriously hinder your enjoyment of a videogame.

Ya, bot Ignition haz prabloms with rally bed typos. or worse... setnace no centz. it duz effet my enjyment when thar r just stupid tipos that a 5t grdr wood not mcuk up.

Ther's also teh voize werk in LUX-PAIN that dont evan mach what teh tesht sez. (Spoken: New York, Text: Shibuya)

Now, we're not talking about voices. Lux-Pain was an unforgivable mess, but so far with games like Muramasa I haven't noticed the handful of mispellings impacting my game at all.

I mean, there were quite a few mispellings in Devil Survivor but I didn't see many people complaining about them.

[Hamel]

I mean, there were quite a few mispellings in Devil Survivor but I didn't see many people complaining about them.

Atlus are perfect
it's not a mispell your English just sucks
that is all

[kat_ears_kahrain]

Honestly, as long as I can tell what's going on and the game is fun I don't give half a crap about typos. Of course it's better if there aren't any, but it feels silly to me to let something like typos seriously hinder your enjoyment of a videogame.

Ya, bot Ignition haz prabloms with rally bed typos. or worse... setnace no centz. it duz effet my enjyment when thar r just stupid tipos that a 5t grdr wood not mcuk up.

Ther's also teh voize werk in LUX-PAIN that dont evan mach what teh tesht sez. (Spoken: New York, Text: Shibuya)

Now, we're not talking about voices. Lux-Pain was an unforgivable mess, but so far with games like Muramasa I haven't noticed the handful of mispellings impacting my game at all.

I mean, there were quite a few mispellings in Devil Survivor but I didn't see many people complaining about them.

Muramasa was a really dry translation. Quite a bit was lost in it. Yeah, Devil Survivor had some misspellings, but not on the level that Ignition has failed at.

There's also the non-nonsensical sentences that can be found in Ignition's games. "Seeing such joy is what is to some people,".

Hm... maybe I'll just make that my sig!

[jeffx]

There's also the non-nonsensical sentences that can be found in Ignition's games. "Seeing such joy is what is to some people,".

Hm... maybe I'll just make that my sig!

Then go ahead and purchase Nostalgia, you'll have a field day trying to figure out which new sig to go for.

[kat_ears_kahrain]

There's also the non-nonsensical sentences that can be found in Ignition's games. "Seeing such joy is what is to some people,".

Hm... maybe I'll just make that my sig!

Then go ahead and purchase Nostalgia, you'll have a field day trying to figure out which new sig to go for.

Aw... it is really that bad?

[Macheath]

^Oh, no, typos don't sound good. :frown: They are annoying and kill the game. Now I'm even more scared about Ignition picking up Arc Rise Fantasia.

I just hope that Ignition USA would hire grammar Nazis, seeing how the prior already released three games with typos in a row already.

Yeah, it's really sad, but they need grammar Nazis. Seeing such games three times in a row worries me, but I guess we have no choice but to wait and see :frown:...

[Gen Eric Gui]

I've been talking to the guy who reviewed the game over at RPGFan, and he said he didn't see much of a problem with the translation. He called it a distinct improvement from their previous works. His main problem was that the gameplay was kind of dry, but I'm expecting that, so.

[Macheath]

I've been talking to the guy who reviewed the game over at RPGFan, and he said he didn't see much of a problem with the translation. He called it a distinct improvement from their previous works. His main problem was that the gameplay was kind of dry, but I'm expecting that, so.

Well, that's something good to hear. I'm looking forward to this game:D.

[Yet Another Tim]

BUMP! I somehow managed to get contact with Ignition USA via Twitter, and asked them whether there will be pre-order bonuses, just like the Japanese release.

www.twitter.com/ignitionUSA

http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/13/arc-rise-fantasia-sold-with-a-symphony-of-spoils/

When I shared the link with Ignition USA, they even thanked me for the follow via Direct Messaging, and re-tweeted my question to the game's Twitter account.

www.twitter.com/arcrisefantasia

[Macheath]

After making us wait this long, they should give us a pre-order bonus. I want the artbook/soundtrack!!

[slayn]

All preorder versions have the underboob restored.

[Yet Another Tim]

Guys, please, tweet BOTH of them NOW, to ensure ourselves of BOTH pre-order bonuses.

[jeffx]

All preorder versions have the underboob restored.

Yes, for great underboob justice.

[Macheath]

All preorder versions have the underboob restored.

Yes, for great underboob justice.

I want my underboob!! :D

[Zacewing]

This discussion on Ignition's translations reminds me of practically every English translation of a foreign MMORPG.

It's like these companies don't proofread their #### before releasing it.

[Yet Another Tim]

BUMP! Guess how's the voice acting Ignition's giving us:

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/20/oh-dear-arc-rise-fantasias-dub/

[ViolenceJack]

Hope you can turn off that confirmation after every single action.
Voice acting seems to be as good as Enchanted Arms, and yet its better than Chaos Wars, though isnt everything?

[Superkenon]

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/20/oh-dear-arc-rise-fantasias-dub/

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5764/1262228125344.png

[Yet Another Tim]

Yup. I tweeted IgnitionUSA about it and even made a phone call at 9-ish am.

Here's their number: 1-818-502-9613
Office hours: 9am-5pm Pacific

I left them a voice mail.

[DarkRPGMaster]

The voice acting isn't the worst I've heard. Makes me think of Grandia in that aspect. Jeez, I was kinda hoping that they would sign on Johnny Yong Bosch and Stephanie Sheh for the two main characters. Those of you who watched Eureka Seven should know why.

[Sanctine]

BUMP! Guess how's the voice acting Ignition's giving us:

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/20/oh-dear-arc-rise-fantasias-dub/

I'm definitely buying this game now.

[Enzeru]

Just wanted to say...

I think the voice acting is perfectly fine.

[Superkenon]

Don't be an enabler, man.

[Sanctine]

Just wanted to say...

I think the voice acting is perfectly fine.

It's certainly better than what I could do. I'll never understand the attraction to voice acting nowadays. It's very rare I even hear good voice acting, anyway.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Let me know when there's an option to cancel all the voice acting so I can read in peace.

[ViolenceJack]

Its called the Mute button.

[Hamel]

But mute kills the music and sound effects whice are important (to me at least)

[ViolenceJack]

They'll likely (hopefully) have a Voice, SFX, and Music master volume option.

[Onion of Mystery]

A problem (for me, at least) is that with good acting, you rarely ever sit up and say, "Wow, that's some fantastic voice work there!" because I'm so caught up in the scene. On the other hand, with bad acting it's very easy to notice it.