Tales of Rebirth

[Futanari]

The release of Namco's Tales games in the West seems to be random, and certainly sporadic.

We received Destiny (PS1) Eternia (renamed Destiny 2), Tales of Symphonia, Legendia and Abyss. Abyss did poorer than expected, at least partially because it was released so soon after Tales of Legendia.

As Tales of Rebirth is an older game, it is unlikely to be released by Namco, especially with the advent of the next-gen systems and the increase in games being developed for them.

So what do you say, Atlus? Why not bring this one over? It's one of the most highly-regarded RPGs with real-time battles, even here in the West. The rights to it might be sold for less than the going rate due to the age of the game (it was released on December 16th 2004), and we all know how quickly games are put in the bargain bin, or released as a "Best Price" edition in Japan.

It appears that a PSP remake is coming out in Japan is coming out on March 19th this year in Japan.

[ZoraGenin]

I'm still waiting for Tales of the Tempest which i've decided isn't going to come here. But any new Tales games are cool with me.

[RayFoxSith]

Bug Namco Bandai. I doubt they'll let anyone else touch their Tales games.

[Futanari]

I suppose that's an option. Tales of Phantasia was released for the GBA in the West 11 years after it first came out for the SNES.

I hope they're not going to do something like that with Tales of Rebirth. :evil:

Then again, they probably gave it just because it was the first Tales game.

[Kakizaki]

^Tales titles on Nintendo systems are completely different licensing wise. Nintendo had a hand in the publishing of both of those titles stateside.

[Hayato]

Tales of Rebirth is my favourite Tales game. Destiny comes in close, though.

Anyway, there's no way Atlus can pick this up. It's a complete impossibility. Namco didn't do it before, and they would've had a better chance at making cash off of it since they're a bigger company. Advertising and stuff. (Though they never really advertise their Tales franchise here, hurr.)

Since the PSP remake is coming out soon, too, any chance at getting ToR released here is solely on Namco-Bandai of America's shoulders. It's questionable to get the older release here than the newer one, after all.

[Magnvs]

Tales of Rebirth is my favourite Tales game. Destiny comes in close, though.

Anyway, there's no way Atlus can pick this up. It's a complete impossibility. Namco didn't do it before, and they would've had a better chance at making cash off of it since they're a bigger company. Advertising and stuff. (Though they never really advertise their Tales franchise here, hurr.)

Since the PSP remake is coming out soon, too, any chance at getting ToR released here is solely on Namco-Bandai of America's shoulders. It's questionable to get the older release here than the newer one, after all.I played ToR using the script translation and my low japanese skills, and I agree with you on the value of the game, second only to TotA imho. The bs was truly awesome for its balancement of action and tactic, and I loved both the pleasant graphics and the more sober atmosphere.

Unfortunately I must also agree with your opinion regarding the localization of Tales games: it's unaccurate to compare Nintendo's Tales'localization with other Tales's, and I fear there is no chance that Bamco could evere let Atlus localize ToR or any other Tales game.
I am still waiting for some infos regarding the localization of the Psp porting of ToD2, and I fear both those games are going to stay as japan-only releases for a long time.

[Zeta_Nova]

Well, as of this moment. And perhaps forever, Namco Bandai will be handling the Tales of RPG franchise.

And our next venture into this franchise is Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, the sequel to the biggest selling Tales game in North America (stated in an interview).

[Magnvs]

Well, as of this moment. And perhaps forever, Namco Bandai will be handling the Tales of RPG franchise.

And our next venture into this franchise is Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, the sequel to the biggest selling Tales game in North America (stated in an interview).
Even Tales of Vesperia for X360 will almost surely come to the USA, let's hope that Tales of Innocence for Ds follows the same path (hoping for Rebirth or Destiny Director's Cut would be a waste of time, I fear :() ^^

[R315razor]

I only care about Symphonia, the other ones can go die in an explosion.

But that is just my opinion.

[System_Error]

Well, as of this moment. And perhaps forever, Namco Bandai will be handling the Tales of RPG franchise.

And our next venture into this franchise is Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, the sequel to the biggest selling Tales game in North America (stated in an interview).
Even Tales of Vesperia for X360 will almost surely come to the USA, let's hope that Tales of Innocence for Ds follows the same path (hoping for Rebirth or Destiny Director's Cut would be a waste of time, I fear :() ^^

Vesperia is confirmed.

[zippedpinhead]

Tales of the Abyss didn't sell poorly. It just was not produced in great numbers. Until recently (when I some how found a copy hidden in a Walmart) I had never seen a brand new copy EVER, and had not seen a used copy for a few months.

The Problem with TotA is that they chose to release Tales of Legendia. That came is not good, not good in the slightest. I was depressed with the art direction (cool that it was by the samurai Champloo person, bad that it was uninspired), hated the gimic of being on what was essentially a giant boat, and disliked the fact that I found the main character unplayable (inexcusable). I usually like trying every character out to play as, but you always have certain battles that you HAVE to play as him. I lost all interest in the game once I realized that it would never get any better.

My favorite Tales of game would have to be Phantasia (any version except the official one). My problem with Destiny was that once I got to the world above, it seemed like it lost all direction. I have it still though.

Question: Should I use my copy and finish playing through it? I recently found my ps1 memory card and I still have my old save. Everyone always says that ToD is just great, how much more is there after that?

[Sanctine]

Tales of Legendia was great. I'll never really understand the hate behind it. Every aspect of it was extremely solid.

[Pixel]

Legendia was great, and Abyss was good, too, if you could stomach the load times.

[System_Error]

oh man, go play Magna Carta if you want long load times lol.

[Magnvs]

Tales of Legendia was great. I'll never really understand the hate behind it. Every aspect of it was extremely solid.Well, the soundtrack was extremely fascinating, even if it was a strong departure from the works of Sakuraba typical of the series, but I found the character design and the dungeon design lacking, not too surprising if you think how it wasn't Namco Tales Studio\ex Wolf Team to do it, but the Namco-MelFes Team.

Plotwise, the firts ten hours imho destroyed many gamers'will to continue, not to mention ToL's reputation: they were a succession of poor-planned dungeons, with scarce plot development and poor dialoques: if you passed this phase, however, the plot became truly fascinating, definitely different from your typical Tales experience. A pity the Character Quests weren't voiced, but still they were an interesting way to continue the game after its first end, and did a nice job of fleshing out some characters (Grune above all).

What was truly awful, imho, was the battle system: if you think of how Tales of Symphonia came out two years before Legendia it remains incredibile (even considering the different teams) how they managed to pull out this 2d-side scrolling-button mashing-combofest bs, too easy for all the first part of the game and imho truly inferior to both the 2d bs of ToD2 and the 3d (well, not completely so) bs of ToS.
I have played almost all Tales games, and Legendia probably was the easiest, with some bosses never hitting ground after the initial attack due to an overpowered (if mildly rewarding) combo system.

That said, I agree that ToL is one of those games that got bashed by people that sometimes haven't seen more than its first hours.

[zippedpinhead]

I made it to the Werites Beacon, about halfway through the game.

If I can't continue to play a game after going halfway through, then I am going to say that game is bad. Everything just left a bad taste in my mouth. Hell I had just gone through Tales of Eternia before going to Tales of Legendia and I still feel that ToL is the Black sheep/poor red headed step child of the series.

Overall, I've said it before but the Best Tales of Game is Phantasia (PSX) the best American release is probably Tales of Symphonia, but that is just my opinion and I have not gotten really far in TotA yet.

[noloe4]

Currently I'm playing Tales of the Abyss and am lovin' it. The battle system is a lot of fun and easy to get used to. As for Tales of Legendia..I have to say I'm one of the ones that actually thoroughly enjoyed the game. Yeah the story was pretty bland and the battle system possibly a step back,but the character interaction and their personalities were so distinctive that it made me wanna finish the game and I'm glad I did. The character quest IMO were the best part of the game and like mentioned before REALLY should have been voiced. I'm still debating on whether TotA will end up being a more enjoyable experience(almost done...I THINK) than ToL,but regardless I gotta let it be known that Tales of Legendia is a diamond in the rough that people need to stop hatin' on.

[Kakizaki]

I keep thinking Tales of Afterbirth when I see this thread.

[toythatkills]

I completed Legendia and it's a horrible game.

The battle system was really dull compared to Symphonia. The world map was terrible, the camera doesn't let you see more than 3 steps ahead and there's never more than one destination, it's the most linear RPG I've ever played, and I've played a lot. Random battles were a step back for Tales. There's only about ten types of enemy and they're pallette swapped to oblivion, which makes the battles duller than already they were. The AI of your team-mates in battles was atrocious. Dungeons were as linear as the world map and the only points of challenge/interest were the puzzle cubes, which it just lets you skip entirely if you can't be bothered. If only that option applied to the entire dungeon. The bosses later on were absurd, like one with a speed stat of about 12 million times your own, which is plain unfair. And the worst thing of all, when you finally get to that battle, the first challenging one in the game, you get sod all EXP for it. I hate games that don't fairly reward the player for the effort they put in and this game is a massive culprit.

I'm sure I don't need more than that for reason to hate it!

I'm not sure why I picked up Abyss after hating Legendia so much, but it was a real return to form and I loved it. I've heard that Rebirth is the best in the series (on PS2 at any rate), it's a real shame Atlus can't pick it up, because it doesn't look like Namco will now Vesperia exists.

[zippedpinhead]

isn't rebirth getting a re release on the psp? If it is, like I believe it is, then this is best worked out by discussing this with Namco.


Link:

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0708/game070806c.shtml

[Zeta_Nova]

-_-' Sorry buddy. But at the moment Namco Bandai plans on rolling out only Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World & Tales of Vesperia only.

[Failedlegend]

Tales of Legendia was great. I'll never really understand the hate behind it. Every aspect of it was extremely solid.

I admit its a great game with a great story (well from the two or so hours I tried it) just like the rest of the Tales series the only problem was the lack of multiplayer.

I dunno if this is everyones take on Tales but between me my brother and his girlfriend and whoevers around or the AI (we used to have a fourth but thats a olong story) We'd always make sure to get together and only play the game when it was all of us.

The reason I love the tales series so much is they made a multiplayer RPG and did it right. Thus Legendia was a letdown and I cant convinxw myself to play it because it doesnt feel right.

Thats my guess of where all the hate comes from Sanctine

[landlock]

-_-' Sorry buddy. But at the moment Namco Bandai plans on rolling out only Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World & Tales of Vesperia only.

That's two more Tales of games then Europe will be getting be the looks of it. Hopefully Vesperia will get a PS3 release eventually so I can import that.

[Yet Another Tim]

Bug Namco Bandai. I doubt they'll let anyone else touch their Tales games.

Or better yet, Ray, make a jab at Namco Bandai's pride, by saying, "Atlus USA's taking better care of Dept. Heaven, Super Robo Wars Original Generation, and Summon Night series than they do in North America.. oh, wait, you're selling the American rights out to Altus USA!?" or something to this effect.

Oh, going back on topic, I'll support this, in hopes of having Rebirth as my potential gateway to the Tales franchise.