Whats with the connection issue in this game?

[Pibbman]

Man, I keep having to restart the game to get on the server, getting pretty annoying.

[Zion0153]

Yeah, I'm having the same problem.. Well, I was yesterday.. I'm still having some connection problems when people try to summon me, although it's not too bad, and it might just be the weather.

[RedRocket]

FYI, my character has about 6 hours into it and I have not been disconnected once. About 3 hours last night, ~ 9pm pdt - midnight, and 3 hours today.

[ProjectZwei]

Yeah, i haven't had any connection issues. I've played w/ other people around 8x w/o running into any issues all 8x. Maybe its something on your end?

[ChiTownBoi]

either u dont have NAT type 2 or the ppl ur trying to connect to dont, having NAT type 3 (which is a common issue for online games) causes some pretty nasty issues, in some games more so than others

[Pibbman]

I know my PS3 is setup correctly. I was kind of expecting this kind of issue, since a lot said the asian version had the same problems.

[ChiTownBoi]

well to play the asian version online (w/o problems at least) i had to forward some ports idk if its the same for the us version

[ZomDizae]

well to play the asian version online (w/o problems at least) i had to forward some ports idk if its the same for the us version
I don't think it's the same ports as written on the English instruction sheet but still worth a try...

[Porrage]

I had problems with online at first. My PS3 got a decent signal from my router, and could easily play other games online. However, Demon's Souls would frequently kick me out of online. I moved my PS3 closer to the router and made sure my firewall was off.

I've played for around an hour in this way, with no problems.

Try playing with your firewall turned off, see if that helps. I'm not a computer wiz, so your guess is as good as mine.

[Pendragon90]

I was playing perfectly fine this afternoon, but I went on this evening and I get disconnected aburtly from the game, and I cant seem to connect to anyone. It just says "Failed to connect", it's kind of ruining the overall experience for me.

[Pibbman]

Tried being summoned 2 times, and both failed. Still trying to get someone to summon me on 1-2. I kinda feel like helping someone on it lol. Plus I wanna see how it works.

[Syra]

Yesterday 1-2 was kicking me off every time. It was fine for the level, but whether I was hosting, or helping, I never saw a phantom remain in game through the entire boss battle. My friend and random helper both vanished on me during my fight, I got kicked helping someone else, and then when I helped my friend again later, I was kicked yet again. Apparently he got kicked from that fight another time as well. It seemed only the host could clear the level, everyone else would be booted from the boss battle.

It was fine Tuesday, but I'm not sure what was going on yesterday. It wasn't like I was kicked off the network either, just sent back to my game. It always seemed to wait til the boss was over halfway down too. =/

[Zion0153]

Yesterday 1-2 was kicking me off every time. It was fine for the level, but whether I was hosting, or helping, I never saw a phantom remain in game through the entire boss battle. My friend and random helper both vanished on me during my fight, I got kicked helping someone else, and then when I helped my friend again later, I was kicked yet again. Apparently he got kicked from that fight another time as well. It seemed only the host could clear the level, everyone else would be booted from the boss battle.

It was fine Tuesday, but I'm not sure what was going on yesterday. It wasn't like I was kicked off the network either, just sent back to my game. It always seemed to weight til the boss was over halfway down too. =/

I had the same problem actually... I kept getting kicked whenever I was trying to play with people against the tower guard. Whether I was joining a game or bringing someone into my game, I had a lot of problems connecting to people. I finally managed to kill the thing with two others, who were very quick about it...

[Mounce]

I had problems when I first got the game, after the Tutorial when I died by that 3 eyed demon at the end of it, I seemed to have not been connected for the entire time I played 1-1, which was upsetting cause I was like, "HMmm, something feels missing, even though I've never played this before....WAIT! Where are the messages and blood!?" rofl

after I reconnected and played pretty much from 11PM to 8AM, when playing THEN?....It was perfect, and I was online the entire time, and NOW at 4-7PM'ish Eastern, I can't even get in at all -_-.... was on for 20-30 minutes when I hopped on, but that was it.

[triplehz_rulez]

i haven't had any problems whatsoever except every time i go to that storm place i get invaded 1 yesterday and kicked his butt..then one right after the other today and killed them so far I am 3-0 so these people under estimate my character KAIN lol

[The_Spleen]

Hey I too am having a weird online issue.

While I'm not being disconnected, today while I've been playing even though i'm logged into PSN for some reason I cannot place messages nor do I see anybody else's messages.

I've logged out of the game and PSN and rebooted, but there is no change.

Any ideas what is going on?

[Xolso]

Having so many online issues with this game today, yet everyone I ask says they're having no problems at all, it's so frustrating.....At first, I kept getting disconnected from the online portion of the game and the game had to go into offline mode, after I seem to get past that problem, in soul mode, when waiting for someone to summon me, it kept failing attempts to join someones game when they tried to summon me.....

i would have to keep trying over and over until I get to someone game that doesn't boot me off. finally went I get into a game there isn't any lag at all. One of the games I got into I got to one of the bosses, and we were doing pretty good until I got disconnected... I think I died a little inside

i have a nat type 2 connection( connected to a router)

this is the only ps3 game i'm having online issues at the moment

[Foxix]

Hey I too am having a weird online issue.

While I'm not being disconnected, today while I've been playing even though i'm logged into PSN for some reason I cannot place messages nor do I see anybody else's messages.

I've logged out of the game and PSN and rebooted, but there is no change.

Any ideas what is going on?

Well at least I'm not the only one having this issue. I thought it was just me. But yeah, basically PSN is fine and everything, I can check messages get friends updates and I have no problem connecting to Demon's Souls servers but once I'm connected the messages eventually disappear and I lose the select button's functionality.

[Kurt]

My issue is similar but it always seems to happen when I'm a phantom helping someone fight the tower demon. Right after the tower demon falls down for the first time, when things seems to be going well, the connection becomes unstable and out I go.

[Eskol]

My issue is similar but it always seems to happen when I'm a phantom helping someone fight the tower demon. Right after the tower demon falls down for the first time, when things seems to be going well, the connection becomes unstable and out I go.

Same happens to me, when that happens push start and quit game then reload, also for me, when I was fighting flamelurker everytime i tried to summon it said they were no longer available even though the soul signs just got put down...reload and it fixed

[Jorlen]

It's on most of the forum boards. People are having connectivity issues with the NA version of the game.

No doubt it's related to the new North American server that was put up for this version of the game. I'm just hoping they get sorted out sooner than later.

[Bearcut]

Yeah same happens here, what I do is look for bloodstains in the nexus and if they aren't there I know i'm not online, so I'll reload the profile until I see them.
But when I finally do get online, it usually stays online, and I've never been booted from a game or had someone booted from mine...even played with a friend of mine last night for about 4 hours with no lag or connection issues.
I was assuming the connection problems had to do with my absolutely horrid IP connection (meaning the game might give up on it occasionally), or that the game sold more copies than predicted and the US server is occasionally having trouble handling the load (seems to happen more during peak hours). Any moderators want to confirm this??

[Karkarov]

I still havent had many issues, I did get the issue of being disconnected after getting my body back yesterday but it only happened a couple times. As for actual norml DC's I have only had it happen once. I will say I was killed by a BP last night that seemed to be a step or two off his location though, alot of hits seemed to miss me by a decent margin but hit anyay could be because his halberd may just have a huge hit box.

[Xolso]

My issue is similar but it always seems to happen when I'm a phantom helping someone fight the tower demon. Right after the tower demon falls down for the first time, when things seems to be going well, the connection becomes unstable and out I go.

this is exactly what happened to me, the demon dropped and we started beating on him, and out of no where the session drops

[chrizburnz]

Yeah man I'm having the same issue. My ps3 hasn't disconnected at all from the psn, but it does all the time from Demon's Soul's. I hope this gets fixed soon. It'll be so random too, I'll just be walking and realize there are no more blood splats and I 've only been able to be summoned once and summon someone once, it didn't last long at all either. It's very disappointing, I am able to quit the game and get back in, but doing that on average of every 8 mins sucks!

[Khan]

I registered on this board to voice the exact same problem. Everything is going fine, and suddenly the ghosts and blood stains are missing and select button is not working. I had to complete 1-1 and 1-2 all alone by myself because of this stupid problem. I can't stay logged in for more than 10 minutes. Whats frustrating is that other people are not having any problems at all. Can we please get an update on this problem? Its ruining the game for me :very_sad:

[BKWar]

I have been playing the game since it came out in the US. I have had good and bad days with the connection, but it is the same issue everyone else describes. I will be playing and things will be fine, then the blood splatter and messages dissappear. It seems completely random when it does and does not work. I will be on a couple minutes and i lose the connection with the game server or I will be on for hours with no issue. I am connected to the PSN the entire time and able to do everthing there. My connection is wireless, but i have no problems with it on any other game. It has to be the server. I plan on calling their customer service line on Monday. I will post any solution or news they give me.

[Selbstjustiz]

I'm having the exact same issues as everyone else in this thread.

I'm also using wireless and I'm playing from Europe. But as the poster above me, only this game is giving me troubles.

I hope this gets resolved soon. The game is still great but the Online portion does make it a whole lot more engaging!

[Urisk]

Well, I got myself the US version, too ... and I experience the same problems: Failed summonings ... specially when being summoned myself. I've opened all ports mentioned in the manual / info sheet of the asian version. :/

[Foxix]

I have been playing the game since it came out in the US. I have had good and bad days with the connection, but it is the same issue everyone else describes. I will be playing and things will be fine, then the blood splatter and messages dissappear. It seems completely random when it does and does not work. I will be on a couple minutes and i lose the connection with the game server or I will be on for hours with no issue. I am connected to the PSN the entire time and able to do everthing there. My connection is wireless, but i have no problems with it on any other game. It has to be the server. I plan on calling their customer service line on Monday. I will post any solution or news they give me.

Please please pleaaase let something good come of this! :very_sad:i LOVE this game so much but this error is just silly and really detracts from the overall experience.

[Khan]

I have been playing the game since it came out in the US. I have had good and bad days with the connection, but it is the same issue everyone else describes. I will be playing and things will be fine, then the blood splatter and messages dissappear. It seems completely random when it does and does not work. I will be on a couple minutes and i lose the connection with the game server or I will be on for hours with no issue. I am connected to the PSN the entire time and able to do everthing there. My connection is wireless, but i have no problems with it on any other game. It has to be the server. I plan on calling their customer service line on Monday. I will post any solution or news they give me.
Please let us know what comes out of it. Atleast by then I will have time to finish studying for my exams :p

[Karkarov]

Probably the server is just getting hammered by too many connections to be honest.

[KTA]

Do you guys with issues have time warner by chance?

I know I had to switch my DNS because PSN apparently stopped playing nice with their servers. I've played this game roughly 40 hours since tuesday (woof) and only had 1 brief disconnect.

I'd always get connection errors and have to retry numerous times on psn prior to switching my DNS though.

Google it, there are solutions abound if so....

[DaveKap]

Yesterday 1-2 was kicking me off every time. It was fine for the level, but whether I was hosting, or helping, I never saw a phantom remain in game through the entire boss battle. My friend and random helper both vanished on me during my fight, I got kicked helping someone else, and then when I helped my friend again later, I was kicked yet again. Apparently he got kicked from that fight another time as well. It seemed only the host could clear the level, everyone else would be booted from the boss battle.

It was fine Tuesday, but I'm not sure what was going on yesterday. It wasn't like I was kicked off the network either, just sent back to my game. It always seemed to wait til the boss was over halfway down too. =/

I have been having this exact same problem. I'm 8/8 disconnected when trying to beat the 1-2 boss as a summoned phantom. What the hell is going on?! I never had problems like this on the Asian servers.

[admiralvic]

I have been playing the game since it came out in the US. I have had good and bad days with the connection, but it is the same issue everyone else describes. I will be playing and things will be fine, then the blood splatter and messages dissappear. It seems completely random when it does and does not work. I will be on a couple minutes and i lose the connection with the game server or I will be on for hours with no issue. I am connected to the PSN the entire time and able to do everthing there. My connection is wireless, but i have no problems with it on any other game. It has to be the server. I plan on calling their customer service line on Monday. I will post any solution or news they give me.

im having the same issue, and join this place to see about an issue *also to file a complaint about the cheaply made deluxe edition...* Until today, i assumed my connection was too weak to be on psn/DS at the same time, so i brushed it off *since the average online time for me was 20 mins =\* about 2 hours ago i got bored, and tried to invade someone *im having problems with the boss, and wanted to confirm if its me or the server* i was able to connect and though i got destoryed *him + 2 phantoms -.-* it worked, then later i was able to go to another persons world as a helper... I would love to see a solution or atleast more info to why =\

[Hobbun]

I've only played it once online, so maybe I need to test it again. However the night I did play online I was booted 6-7 times within a period of 45 minutes. And 4-5 of those times were within 20-25 minutes.

I thought it was just me as I haven't read ANY issues on connections issues on the huge GAF thread for this game and also I am using a router instead of wired connection. For those who have seen others complaining online, where have you seen it at?

What I was going to do was try getting mine setup with a wired connection. But if I set it up and found out it be the actual servers, I'd be a bit annoyed.

Btw, what is NAT2/NAT3?

[Intrigue]

I honestly haven't had any connection problems so far, i'd just chalk it up to internet providers.

[Hobbun]

It's not my internet provider as I almost never have issues with my computer connection unless the service is actually down.

[KTA]

well if you have time warner like I said they stopped "talking" kindly to PSN from a infrastructure perspective. Google it i'm tellin ya.

Ever since I made the change i've been pretty good... having said that. I've been getting a ton of lag when pvp'ing on 1 - 4. And wow it's like a dueling ground at this point.

I want to take down that blue dragon but when recruiting allies I keep getting challenged and then my damn recruitment fails!!!

[Hobbun]

I have Comcast, so that infrastructure issue shouldn't be a problem.

Like I said, I thought it was just me as I do have a wireless set up and figured I just needed to go wired. But then I saw this thread and people making reference to other forums complaining about the same. So I don't know now.

[AlibyebyeEssmob]

Add me to the group that is having connection issues. I would get disconnected after about 20 minutes or so of play, which was irritating enough. Yesterday, I played online for a good 5 hours or so, with no issues - summoned two players in to help, etc. - and thought that the problems were fixed. No such luck. I tired to play some last night, I get the message about connecting to servers, but I was not online. I quit, reenter, not online. I did this a few times, and no luck. This morning, I tried again and was not online, so I created a new character. They ended up being online for about two minutes.
It's incredibly frustrating, as the online play is really rewarding, and it worked perfectly yesterday for most of the day. It'd be nice to get some official word on this from Atlus.

[ICE PICK]

my only issue is pulling other people into my room.....if i tried to pull 50 people in my room, it might work twice (i started not even taking a single step during the entire summoning process which does seem like it made a difference....but it still fails more than it works)

but when i get summoned its nothing.....i always go to the other players world

[Buttons]

I have a unique issue. First let me say I have no other connection issues in any game. DS online features work very well for me in general, except for this one issue:

Every time I'm a blue phantom fighting the tower knight, if the tower knight is knocked down, and I participate in attacking his head, I get a message saying "the session has ended." This has happend consistantly at least 10 times in a row. I join with a player, we play through 1-2 without any signs of connection problems. The tower knight gets knocked down, I attack his head, "session ended."

Because this "connection problem" is triggered by specific and predictable events in the game, the simplest explination is that there is a bug in the game.

[KTA]

my only issue is pulling other people into my room.....if i tried to pull 50 people in my room, it might work twice (i started not even taking a single step during the entire summoning process which does seem like it made a difference....but it still fails more than it works)

but when i get summoned its nothing.....i always go to the other players world

do you run around after initiating the summon? I used to do this (go explore while waiting and it'd fail).

I noticed if I stand still and stay right where the tag was it usually works for me... maybe try that???

[Intrigue]

I have Comcast, so that infrastructure issue shouldn't be a problem.

Like I said, I thought it was just me as I do have a wireless set up and figured I just needed to go wired. But then I saw this thread and people making reference to other forums complaining about the same. So I don't know now.

Try reseting your internet settings and finding a stronger signal if it's wireless.Or try a cord.For everyone else,If it's a cord check it to make sure it's plugged in all they way, also check for damages along the cord.

And finally some internet providers do have problems. Amongst my friends and i I'm the only one with At&t provided internet, and i don't have any problems

3 of my friends use road runner which is provided by time warner and they do get disconnected from the DS servers.

And the others have random local providers. They don't seem to have any problems either.


But i have noticed a little more lag on the servers today, might just be the shear amount of people.

[KTA]

But i have noticed a little more lag on the servers today, might just be the shear amount of people.

I hope so as i'd love to see this game do very well.

But at the sametime... I can't find anyone to co op with anymore unless i'm on 1 - 4.

I hope it's just because I steam rolled this game all week and at a generally higher level than most for the time period (90ish atm).

I didn't have to work all week and put 40 hours into this puppy. The MMO esc adventure really ended up clicking with me.

[Radelta]

Hello. Just registered so get help with this.

Anyone got advice for me? I dont seem to be able to use the online at all. It usually says it connects to the server but then when I play, its still the offline mode all the time.

Going to try making new character see if something changes

[Xolso]

anyone else keep getting disconnected from the server? had that happening all day today...... My brother has the game aswell and he doesn't have any connection problems at all and were on the same connection....I have a 60gig ps3 if that has anything to do with it

[Sferzar]

It might have to do with the people playing at the time. You might fail to log into the server during peak hours just because everyone is playing the crap out of this game.

[Mounce]

What I have noticed, is I think this game in North America, doesn't have enough servers to keep up with the demand that it might've actually sold more than they had expected.

The servers blow ####ing chunks during the day, but if you play from Midnight tooo 8AM or 12 in the afternoon? It's smooth sailing....Everyones asleep, theres no stress on the server, and access to being Online is smooth and never ending, never disconnecting you. (Yes, the only time you can properly play this game, PROPERLY play.....is if your sleeping schedule is fcked up like a vampire) cause I really honestly get agitated if I know I can't get online, because I'm missing a big part of the game, I want to be able to damn invade other worlds or be a blue phantom and help others out, get black or white tenancies, but, NoOoOoO! cause there is so much BS with Online, we get to deal with this BS until who-knows when. We are missing a chunk out of the game by having to deal with this inconvenience......they better damn get better and/or a lot more servers to handle the demand SOON. I hate not being able to get online, as it steals away honestly, a chunk of what the game is meant to offer us 24/7.

So, I fear the problem is there isn't god damn enough servers to operate how many people are trying to play the game, simply.

[Radelta]

I was playing late last night, still couldnt log in. Tried some this morning, and just now some more a bit ago.

For me I can never access the online at any time.. :( Says I log in but then i guess im kicked? They need to fix this so i can play the game with my friends

[admiralvic]

What I have noticed, is I think this game in North America, doesn't have enough servers to keep up with the demand that it might've actually sold more than they had expected.

The servers blow ####ing chunks during the day, but if you play from Midnight tooo 8AM or 12 in the afternoon? It's smooth sailing....Everyones asleep, theres no stress on the server, and access to being Online is smooth and never ending, never disconnecting you. (Yes, the only time you can properly play this game, PROPERLY play.....is if your sleeping schedule is fcked up like a vampire) cause I really honestly get agitated if I know I can't get online, because I'm missing a big part of the game, I want to be able to damn invade other worlds or be a blue phantom and help others out, get black or white tenancies, but, NoOoOoO! cause there is so much BS with Online, we get to deal with this BS until who-knows when. We are missing a chunk out of the game by having to deal with this inconvenience......they better damn get better and/or a lot more servers to handle the demand SOON. I hate not being able to get online, as it steals away honestly, a chunk of what the game is meant to offer us 24/7.

So, I fear the problem is there isn't god damn enough servers to operate how many people are trying to play the game, simply.

meh im usually up from 6 pm - 9 am est... and i still have these issues, infact the only time it worked was sunday at 8 am XD

[Karkarov]

I hope it's just because I steam rolled this game all week and at a generally higher level than most for the time period (90ish atm).


Probably. I beat the game at 77 and my last 12 levels were literally just so I could use the white bow (my dex and str were that far short). Since going new game+ I have been invaded numerous times.

[Mounce]

I hope it's just because I steam rolled this game all week and at a generally higher level than most for the time period (90ish atm).


Probably. I beat the game at 77 and my last 12 levels were literally just so I could use the white bow (my dex and str were that far short). Since going new game+ I have been invaded numerous times.

Hrm, I'm 75 and am not even near ending the game, heh.....am strong I guess XD

[Fuxoft]

I am afraid this has nothing to do with providers. I am located in Europe. My home network is behind NAT. PS3 automatically detects is as "NAT2". I have ALL incoming traffic on all ports forwarded to my PS3. I have no problems playing Warhawk and other games online for hours and hours. And yet, when playing Demon's Souls (US version), I am getting disconnected (i.e. I can still play but after 5-20 minutes "SELECT" stops working and bloodstains stop appearing). I can usually reconnect by doing QUIT and then LOAD (although sometimes it doesn't work and I have to do it twice).

However (and this is important), when I disconnected my home router and connected my PS3 straight to the Internet, I played for 2 hours straight without any problems!!

So this seems to be a problem with routing / NAT. My router is in fact dedicated Linux PC used just for routing my connection so I can configure it any way I want but I have no idea what more I can do. As I already said, I am forwarding all incoming traffic on all ports and all packet types to my PS3, I don't have firewall (because everything is forwarded to PS3) and I don't have any problems with other games. :(

[admiralvic]

I am afraid this has nothing to do with providers. I am located in Europe. My home network is behind NAT. PS3 automatically detects is as "NAT2". I have ALL incoming traffic on all ports forwarded to my PS3. I have no problems playing Warhawk and other games online for hours and hours. And yet, when playing Demon's Souls (US version), I am getting disconnected (i.e. I can still play but after 5-20 minutes "SELECT" stops working and bloodstains stop appearing). I can usually reconnect by doing QUIT and then LOAD (although sometimes it doesn't work and I have to do it twice).

However (and this is important), when I disconnected my home router and connected my PS3 straight to the Internet, I played for 2 hours straight without any problems!!

So this seems to be a problem with routing / NAT. My router is in fact dedicated Linux PC used just for routing my connection so I can configure it any way I want but I have no idea what more I can do. As I already said, I am forwarding all incoming traffic on all ports and all packet types to my PS3, I don't have firewall (because everything is forwarded to PS3) and I don't have any problems with other games. :(

this is something i noticed which makes me think the game is glitched, in a way...

When i was having problems on 1-4, i kept droping my soul sign in various places, I would wait a bit then ultimately end up hearing the game skip *the sound stoped for a second then started again normally* and i was only disconnected from online... I can say its not me, since i can play every other game no problem *but lbp, but it lags like crazy* though this game doesnt lag for me *more of a reason i am fast enough to play this online* I have been invaded, I have invaded, and I have helped people fight... so im starting to believe some area's are glitched, and others arnt

[Bearcut]

The weird part is we can get on sometimes for hours with no issues, and other times NO MATTER WHAT I DO, I cannot get online. Thats why it leads me to believe it's a server issue.
Of course, this could be several people having several multiple issues at once.

[DarkFocus]

I see the messages. I can be summoned to others games. People can invade my game. But I can't summon others and I see the blue messages it just always says summoning failed and I've tried at least 50 times in different worlds! Really hope this gets fixed soon. Is there a tech support number I can call?

[Radelta]

The tech support number is (949) 788-0353 . But good luck, I called it this morning and they were literally NO help. They just passed the phone back and forth between each other going "Uhhh Thats odd" "Uhhh never encountered THAT problem before"

So yeah... I STILL cant play DS in online mode.. Awesome.

EDIT: Okay, I figured out its my router blocking me from getting in DS online mode. Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix it? It works fine when directly plugged to my modem but I have to share my connection with other people in my house.

I use a D Link DI-624

[Tsuko]

not being able to play with people that have other versions of it is a huge turnoff for me

[Pibbman]

Atlus is still quiet on this one?

[Radelta]

Bah, I tried to make a new topic, but I dont have privlages it says..

Basically, im wondering does anyone know the port I need open to play online? That MUST be the problem. It works without my router plugged in but I need to share my connection with the family.

Also, every other game works fine going through my router, im not sure what it is about this one that makes it fail :(

[Khan]

Ok since I worked as an IT monkey, I might be able to help with port forwarding. But I'm still convinced that this is a server-side problem, not a client-issue. A router simply duplicates the data and sends it to different computers/systems. There's no packet loss problem in routers (again, not a client issue). But seeing how some of you directly plugged in the cable to PS3 (something which I cant do because of other peeps) and reported that it works, port forwarding might help.

1) Turn on your PS3 and get signed into PSN. Go to your router IP address. Its usually 192.168.1.1 (check the back of your router). Username is admin, password is password.

2) check for attached "systems/devices". There's a list of systems that are using router, and the PS3 one is usually named "-". Look for its ip.

3) go to advanced -> portforwarding

4) select "add custom service" (other routers may have different wording, but its a function to forward ports). Forward the following ports for Demon's Souls (I snooped online to find them):
80
443
5223
3478
3479
3658

You forward them by entering your PS3 IP address in the server box, and the port number in the starting and ending port boxes. For example, if you want to forward port 5223,

Service name: (enter something like PS3-1)
Service type : TCP/UDP (always!!)
Starting port: 5223
Ending port: 5223
Server ip address: (PS3 ip you looked up in attached devices. its usually 192.168.1.x)

Do this for all the ports

5) save and quit.

I have to point out that I'm using a NETGEAR router. If you are using routers by a different company, find the terms closest matching the ones listed here. Some routers have different terms for stuff.

[Radelta]

Thanks for the reply. I tried opening all those ports. Ive got an older D-link, DI-624.

I tried opening all those ports in the "virtual server" area of my router (where some websites said was what D-link calls port forwarding.) Still doesnt work :(

This game must really hate older routers. Still only works online if I plug it directly.

And yeah I know what you mean, for almost all of the day/most of the night I have to leave the router plugged in to share the connection. Otherwise I wouldnt mind swappin out the wires

[BKWar]

Okay I did not have time yesterday to post, but here is what happened when I called tech support. I told them about the issue and the postings and they stated that it is a server problem. The volume of players is so much that it cannot handle all of them. They did not say if they are getting more servers. It is likely they are simply going to wait until the first couple of weeks go and see if the load goes down. I do have one thing that I figured out on my own. When first logging in, quit your profile and relog about 3 times. When I do this I am able to play almost indeffinately. Not fool proof or really a fix, but it helps. The game is still good, the difficulty just goes up without all the hints and the ability to get ur body using the blue or black crystals. Good luck to everyone and here is hoping Atlus fixes it soon.

[Jorlen]

they stated that it is a server problem. The volume of players is so much that it cannot handle all of them.

That's what I was afraid of.

Atlus tech support told you this?

[DarkFocus]

what i don't get is every thing but me summoning players works for me I always get summoning failed and most of the time when someone summons me I get kicked the second i get past the loading screen

[DarkFocus]

hopefully atlus fixes its servers soon

[Mounce]

I'm just a little confused as to why they can't just come out and TELL US the issue so we aren't scratching our heads/asses like idiots complaining about what's going on since no one came to let us know wtf is ####ing up our experience, usually you see a staff member or admin come around and post something, but relating to THIS TOPIC, it's been quiet and nothing at all....

I already assumed it was server issues from the beginning, like Khan said, a router shouldn't really do that at all, for me all it'd mean is if someones torrenting a huge file it won't lag me down or I won't lag them down.

[mAcOdIn]

You know, before I read this thread I was having similar problems and I think I've minimized it to a degree. I first forwarded all the PS3 PSN ports to no real avail, then placed the PS3 in the DMZ and that still didn't really change the amount of time I stayed connected, then I enabled QOS and set the PS3 at the highest priority which did nothing, then I checked a box that said "respond to WAN ping requests" and since then it's been relatively steady.

If it is the servers then I'm just getting on at the right times know or whatnot, really hard to say but in my routers log there's still communication being blocked from my PS3 despite having it in the DMZ. That really confuses me because the router shouldn't be blocking anything but it's blocking outgoing ICMP packets from my PS3 to various addresses.

I still need to play around though, for instance, if I leave it in the DMZ theoretically I shouldn't need UPNP enabled on the PS3, or perhaps it's a combination of UPNP and the DMZ or Port Forwarding that's causing issues with stability.

But it's stable enough now that I put it in the DMZ and told the router to responf to ping requests that I can play online for hours instead of just doing one boss and then getting booted so I'm happier than I was.

Ultimately though I think it's still the games fault in how they do something as other games are more failsafe in this regard and more router friendly but I'd imagine you guys here and I play a heck of a lot more single player games than we do multiplayer so probably don't run into these issues as often as others would.

I really want to know the Demon's Souls server IP addresses so I could add them as the only inbound ping request that's answered by the router to please my paranoid self.

[handheld]

i to have been having this problem however i am experiencing it during the fight with tower knight in multiplayer sessions we will get tower knight down to less than 1/4 of his health all the sudden i get a message across my screen that says session has ended.

i must say its quite frustrating.

[nosoco81]

It's probably not related to this, but I have no where else to post this since I can't make a new thread.......

But my game has stop saving characters. Old characters won't save (I've lost over 5+ hours on them.) Newly created characters don't save. I've deleted all characters, and when I make a new one, exit out to the start screen and go back into the load screen the old characters are still there!?

So basically this game has become worthless. I can't even make a topic about it to try and get help... Does anyone know what is causing this? Incredibly frustrating to say the least.

[Bearcut]

Thats a new one I have to say.
I hate to say it, but the data on the HD might have become corrupted. Are you willing to delete all the game data you have on the PS3 for Demon's Souls and reinstall it? I had a similar problem with Burnout Paradise once, and even though I had to start the game over from scratch, that was the only thing I could do to get it working again. You could backup the data first of course, just in case.

[Whodey]

After trying everything under the sun this game just does not like me ... I bought it for the pure fact of the online play because without that feature this is just another boring RPG =/


Really hope they fix this soon before i just get bored of it and trade it in for Uncharted 2 =p

[GamerSam]

I was one of those that had problems with the online connectivity.. But since yesterday everything has been working perfectly. I'm not sure if it is because I put my PS3 as DMZ (I had previously just opened ports), if I just needed to restart the router, or if Sony/Atlus did something to the server.. but anyway everything works fine for me now :D

[RedRocket]

^ I would agree that Wednesday seemed fine for me. Haven't played today.

I am traveling for work this week so I am at a hotel (different ISP etc). Tuesday I did experience the server problem where no messages, ghosts, etc. So, one cannot say it is my connection at home that caused the problem.

Hopefully it is fully resolved now.

[rawtheory]

I lost 2 hours of work in the second valley of defilement world after the sound glitched out and started stuttering. The level itself glitched and enemies were floating in the air as well as parts of the level itself. I used that item that allows to to warp back to the nexus and loss your souls so I could restart the game but I got stuck on a n infinite loading page. WTF!

PS: this was the second time the sound glitched but the first time I got graphical glitches.

[GamerSam]

I lost 2 hours of work in the second valley of defilement world after the sound glitched out and started stuttering. The level itself glitched and enemies were floating in the air as well as parts of the level itself. I used that item that allows to to warp back to the nexus and loss your souls so I could restart the game but I got stuck on a n infinite loading page. WTF!

PS: this was the second time the sound glitched but the first time I got graphical glitches.

I have never heard about that kind of problems before, so while it may be a random bug it appears against the odds that it happened to you twice. I suspect something could be wrong with your PS3 or the disc. Some of the level data is streamed from the disc while playing, so if some of it fails loading all kinds of crazy things could happen :P

[Radelta]

Personally I just think, for some reason the network coding in this game is very unfriendly to routers.

For me, I cant even get the game to go online when my router is connected, but if I directly plug it to my modem, I get a perfect connection without any interuption/lag/fail to connect messages. And It never drops me either.

Ive got ports open, tried DMZ for a little while (MVC2 Doesnt work with DMZ on so I didnt leave it on) And lotsa of other things on my router. This game must hate D-Link XD

[Bacon Deity]

Sometimes it's fine, and other times, I get stabbed in the back when the BP is still infront of me.

[RedRocket]

Still at the hotel tonight and the issue occurred again to where I was not able to leave or see messages, ghosts etc. so I guess the issue is not resolved.



Personally I just think, for some reason the network coding in this game is very unfriendly to routers.

I do not believe that to be true. I also have the asian version of Demon's Souls and have not experienced this network issue once on that version.

[atomicreligion]

The connectivity is up and down, with me. Sometimes great, sometimes I'll lag into a spear..

[nesciog]

well, looking for a common thing that can cause this
what is you NAT type?
do you use DMZ?
UPnP?
Port forwarding?

I have a NAT type of 3, and I use only port forwarding, although I am trying to to configure a DMZ I just can't figure out how to do it with my router

btw: I still suffer from this issues, so if you don't what have changed?

[GamerSam]

Port forwarding, UPNP and such does not always work as intended on routers. The only foolproof way really is to set the PS3 as DMZ. Anyway I have not experienced problems since I put it as DMZ.

[ichit4k4_set0]

Didnt have any problem when playing last week.
Now though, I get disconnected every 15 min or so and need to restart the game.

Really annoying! Ill play something else.

[obie191970]

Perhaps some of the issues people are having will be rectified with the server maintenance scheduled for tomorrow. That being said, if you have NAT 3, you will have problems in a lot of PS3 games. By putting it at NAT 2, it will solve most issues - That is, if they are stemming from your end of course.

[ichit4k4_set0]

I have Nat 2. I am trying DMZ now.

[Swanson]

When you keep on getting signed out of Demon's Souls.. restart your internet connection. I have clearwire, so what i do is turn off ps3 and PC, unplug the router, then unplug the Clearwire box for 15 sec and then turn everything back on in reverse order.
I had to do this yesterday (Monday the 19th) in order for the game to work normally with out getting signed out of PSN every 5 minutes.

Some other games wont work either for me if i have the problem; like for instance CoD:WaW error 33.

If you don't see any blood stains, messages, or ghosts then all you got to do is quit to main menu and then reload.

[Septiego]

I'm kind of hoping this work that will be taking place on the NA servers tomorrow will fix, or at least alleviate this problem. I've never been able to see bloodstains/messages/phantoms/etc even with trying the return to menu and restart thing. It'd be nice to finally be able to experience some of the online features.

[foul24]

Hey I too am having a weird online issue.

While I'm not being disconnected, today while I've been playing even though i'm logged into PSN for some reason I cannot place messages nor do I see anybody else's messages.

I've logged out of the game and PSN and rebooted, but there is no change.

Any ideas what is going on?

Well at least I'm not the only one having this issue. I thought it was just me. But yeah, basically PSN is fine and everything, I can check messages get friends updates and I have no problem connecting to Demon's Souls servers but once I'm connected the messages eventually disappear and I lose the select button's functionality.


i encounter the same problems of dis-functionality of the SELECT button

[worcestersquare]

I have never been able to connect online in this game, and I have tried EVERYTHING since the game's launch.

I have never had issues connecting with any other games. SF4, COD4, etc, all work fine. I have NAT type 2 and I have my ports forwarded. I even tried DMZ. I consistently have 90% signal strength. Nothing let's me connect and I always get the "cannot connect to server (443 error)" message.

I use a draft N Apple Airport Extreme Base Station. Because of where my TV is situated, I will never be able to use a hardwire to connect to the internet. Does anyone have any advice as to what I can do to remedy this problem? Thanks.

[CoachP9]

I think we are hearing several issues here:

1) gettting bounced quickly (5 to 20 minutes) or not able to get online at all

2) intermittent lag, summoning fails, and tower knight disconnect.


I have not experienced number 1. I am going wireless through a netgear router, no special forwarding, etc. It smells like a local connection issue.

Number 2 seems, at least to this one observer, somewhat time related, and then, by extension, possibly load related as said previously.
On Sunday while trying the Tower Knight, it seemd inevitable that I would get connection dropped after his first fall. I would also experience summons failed for the blue phatoms. Since Monday, this has been very rare. Wondering if Sunday was a heavy load time.

[armortier]

Hi everybody!

Well, I have both asia and us version and I can state: the problem are the us servers.

If you have asia version you can connect normally.

If you have us version, you can connect BUT, you cant play online, send messages (select wont work), touch bloodstains etc.


I hope Atlus fix this soon.

[HijiriOni]

Maintenance tonight, bear in mind it's a new server, it's bound to have issues needing work.

[harlequ1n]

I know this won't help you but, I was having heavy disconnection issues until I decided to wire my PS3 and the problems disappeared altogether.

[Karkarov]

Yeah I did two pvp duels tonight lost both however...

First duel I literally couldn't even tell where he was standing, no really, it was that bad. On my screen he only attacked one time and it was a miss by a mile. 10 seconds later I hear three consecutive "hit" sounds and I am dead. Message the guy some and he admits to the same issue and says he has no idea how he killed me at the end he just started swinging randomly, I kid you not.

The second one my all time favorite moment was when I backstabbed him as he was going for a heal and was at 25% health. On my screen he didn't get the heal off. Backstab appears to kill him, as I kick him off my sword he suddenly has full hp and my backstab did no damage. Eventually I finally make a mistake and he gets in enough hits to kill me before I can heal. This is after I backstab him around 7 times, kick him into fire damage twice, hit him god knows how much, etc etc. At least twice he got full heals in and I never even saw the animation for it to boot.

After that I decided tonight wasn't the night for pvp.

[Khan]

The server maintainence did not fix the online connectivity issue.
I tried wireless as well as directly connecting ethernet cable without router. I also tried portforwarding and my PS3 is automatically set to DMZ. Basically tried everything from my side.

This is a server side issue and I hope Atlus fixes this.

[ChiTownBoi]

its killing the game experience -_-

[dragon23]

the only problem I get is the "failed to summon" host or helper a couple of times. most of the problems I read on the web sounds like a server issue (EX: too many players)

[nesciog]

well..
after the server maintenance yesterday everything is just WORSE
now I'm getting disconnected just a seconds after starting to play.
SELECT is working, and I can supposedly post messages, but after waiting a little while longer I can see no ghost/stains/messages and SELECT is not working once again

[armortier]

The server maintainence did not fix the online connectivity issue.
I tried wireless as well as directly connecting ethernet cable without router. I also tried portforwarding and my PS3 is automatically set to DMZ. Basically tried everything from my side.

This is a server side issue and I hope Atlus fixes this.

Same here.

I've tried everything I could... even knowing that this is a server side problem.
In time: I don't have trouble playing any of the games I have.
I'm very regreted of buying the US version, since I can play the ASIA version without any issue or lag.

DMZ, port forwarding, reseting router... nothing works FOR THIS GAME.

I'm very regreted of buying the US version, since I can play the ASIA version without any issue or lag.

[Xolso]

still having problems...logged on today, seemed ok at first then I get disconnected from the server....I restart the game, managed to stay on long enough to try to be summoned by someone

You're being summoned


You're being summoned


You're being summoned




Failed to connect

funny thing is, my brother, who has the game aswell, had no problems playing and beating this game without any disconnects, AND HE'S ON THE SAME CONNECTION AS ME, connected to a router

The only thing different is that he has a newer 80 gigs ps3, while I have a older launch 60 gig.

It baffles me how he had no problems playing the game despite being on the same connection as me...

[RedRocket]

^^^ I've got two PS3s. One a 80g and the other a 120g slim. I take the slim to hotels and have experienced disconnects at different hotels using the Atlus version DS. My 80g PS3 at home also experiences the disconnect with the Atlus version DS.

I also have the Korean version of DS and have never experienced a disconnect on either PS3. :confused:


Atlus,

PLEASE GET THIS FIXED AS IT IS RUINING THE NA DEMON'S SOULS EXPERIENCE!

[Fuxoft]

After the "server upgrade", the online functionality is actually MUCH WORSE for me. Before the upgrade, I was usually connected at the start of the game and the connection dropped after several minutes (once I lasted even 30 minutes!). Now, I am usually disconnected whenever I stars the game. I have to restart again and again and in only about 20% of the cases I start the game connected. But in 80% of my attempts, the SELECT button does nothing immediately after game start (plus no blodstains, no phantoms etc., of course).

[Septiego]

Yeah, can't say the server update helped with my connection issues either. I'm still unable to stay connected (i.e. leave messages, see bloodstains/messages and phantoms, etc.) for more than about a second after loading up my game.

Ah well. I can't say it's really bothering me much; I'm kind of an offline guy anyway. Still though, it would be nice if these issues could be fixed. I'd still like the option to be able to go online and have it work like it's supposed to.

[Demondays]

Hey.

So I got this game yesterday and started playing, at first I could play normal and all the online applications worked ( bloodstains, messages, phantoms etc..)
and that was great, I loved it.

But this morning when I started playing I would suddenly stop seeing other peoples ghosts and bloodstains but there was no notifications that I had dissconected at all, So i turned my ps3 on and off and it worked again.

Every half an hour or less ( sometimes it DC as soon as i died) It would stop working again, and i would have to turn my ps3 on and off to get it working again. At about 5pm it stopped working all togever and even if i turned my ps3 off and on it still wont connect, this really kills the fun and i find myself not wanting to play without the online features, will this be fixed?

My friend and I are supposed to be doing 1-3 togever, he was going to summon me, But it looks like it wont be happening:(

Atlus, please do something.

[Septiego]

Hey.
[...]


Demondays, a lot of people are having the same problems. Hopefully Atlus will get them fixed, but in the mean time all you can really do is just keep trying to stay connected. That or play offline. It's not that bad.

[Khan]

Hey.

So I got this game yesterday and started playing, at first I could play normal and all the online applications worked ( bloodstains, messages, phantoms etc..)
and that was great, I loved it.

But this morning when I started playing I would suddenly stop seeing other peoples ghosts and bloodstains but there was no notifications that I had dissconected at all, So i turned my ps3 on and off and it worked again.

Every half an hour or less ( sometimes it DC as soon as i died) It would stop working again, and i would have to turn my ps3 on and off to get it working again. At about 5pm it stopped working all togever and even if i turned my ps3 off and on it still wont connect, this really kills the fun and i find myself not wanting to play without the online features, will this be fixed?

My friend and I are supposed to be doing 1-3 togever, he was going to summon me, But it looks like it wont be happening:(

Atlus, please do something.

We're all in the same boat. Restarting PS3 will not fix it because its a server side issue (Atlus, you listening?). For 3 weeks since I got this game, I keep having connections problems. Best bet is to quit from the menu and load your game again since it will reconnect to Atlus servers. It becomes a hassle, since the connection will also drop if you move to nexus or from one world to another. This has been bothering me so much, I would rate the game 6.5/10 simply because of this. Why ship the goddamn game if you cant even maintain it? The fact that Atlus is completely oblivious to our problems only aggravates it.

[Demondays]

That really sucks...

What are atlus playing at!

They better fix it, well i hope they do since i dont want people to start hating the game due to server errors.

I try quiting and relogging but it just doesnt work anymore : /

[armortier]

Well, I tried my last effort to make this work online: I wired my PS3 and... I JUST DONT WORK.

I Can play every game I have online.... eve Demons Souls ASIA version....


I remember when Atlus started the campaign "stop importing".

Maybe it's time to lauch a new campaign: "restart importing".


DS is the best game I played in 5 years (at least) but Atlus is ruining that thought of mine...:mad:

[Perversion]

I have both the import and the domestic versions, and have never had a problem with connection errors on either version. I'm playing on a 60 gig PS3 via a 2WIRE (AT&T) wireless router, and have never had to reconfigure ANY of my network settings.

Exactly once (I think on the import version) I was logged off, and it gave me a full screen (ie-not in the upper right hand corner) "lost connection to server" message, which caused the game to return to the main menu screen. I've never had a problem otherwise.


I played offline last night during the server maintenance for the first time in almost two weeks, and having no bloodstains, messages, etc, after having played with them for so long actually increased the game's sense of isolation and tension in a major way.

[Jerry-Boyle]

Half of my online activity works. Bloodstains and ghosts of other players work FINE and I never experienced problems on that side but black phantoms invading me or me invading them and blue phantoms NEVER EVER worked for me yet and I'm level 91 with almost 50 hrs into this game. So yeah, I am also connected. Rarely get disconnected but phantoms don't work for me:( I have my PS3 port forwarded/ DMZ'd and 80% signal. Currently on wireless but I doubt being wired would work either.

[FiOth]

My only problem is that some times summoning Phantoms fails for no apparent reason (I an not referring to the "no more available" message when someone gets to the Soul Sign first). It is most annoying when I am trying to get back up for a boss fight...

Other than that I NEVER disconnect and encounter comparatively little lag, which is strange since I live in Greece, quite far away from all available servers.

[Xolso]

i'm starting to think these connection issues have to do with signal strength(if you're wireless) , in my room I have less than 80% signal strength usually, this is where i'm having connection issues. In my brother's room he has 100% signal strength (and never had any disconnects or any connection issues), almost all the time. So I took my playstation and the same game disc and played it in his room and had no problems at all( on the playstation I had connection issues with), i played for an hour without any disconnects (which usually happens within an hour in my room)

So i'm guessing for most people the solution would to go wired or somehow get a higher signal strength.
I can't really say this is for everyone, but this is it in my case

[Demondays]

Hey.

I Started playing demon's souls when i woke up and the connection was fine, I could see ghosts and bloodstains etc...

But after about an hour they all dissapeared again and even after I relloged and restarted my internet connection, it still wouldnt work.

This really sucks, how long asre atlus going to keep quiet about this?

[Khan]

i'm starting to think these connection issues have to do with signal strength(if you're wireless) , in my room I have less than 80% signal strength usually, this is where i'm having connection issues. In my brother's room he has 100% signal strength (and never had any disconnects or any connection issues), almost all the time. So I took my playstation and the same game disc and played it in his room and had no problems at all( on the playstation I had connection issues with), i played for an hour without any disconnects (which usually happens within an hour in my room)

So i'm guessing for most people the solution would to go wired or somehow get a higher signal strength.
I can't really say this is for everyone, but this is it in my case

I'm usually connected wireless, but i tried plugging in the cable to see if it did any good. It didn't. And my router is brand new as well (2 months old). Besides, no other game gives me problems. Its a server issue, confirmed.

[Xolso]

i'm starting to think these connection issues have to do with signal strength(if you're wireless) , in my room I have less than 80% signal strength usually, this is where i'm having connection issues. In my brother's room he has 100% signal strength (and never had any disconnects or any connection issues), almost all the time. So I took my playstation and the same game disc and played it in his room and had no problems at all( on the playstation I had connection issues with), i played for an hour without any disconnects (which usually happens within an hour in my room)

So i'm guessing for most people the solution would to go wired or somehow get a higher signal strength.
I can't really say this is for everyone, but this is it in my case

I'm usually connected wireless, but i tried plugging in the cable to see if it did any good. It didn't. And my router is brand new as well (2 months old). Besides, no other game gives me problems. Its a server issue, confirmed.

if you think it's a server issue how can you explain people having no problems at all?

[RedRocket]

if you think it's a server issue how can you explain people having no problems at all?

Then how is it explained that I have two PS3s and both the NA version and Asian version...no disconnects with the Asian version utilizing the same connectivity devices. My second PS3 is used at hotels where the ISP is always different. I have Atlus server disconnects, not PSN, too much and no disconnects on the Asian version.

The one factor that is constant for the disconnects is the Atlus server.

[Khan]

if you think it's a server issue how can you explain people having no problems at all?
Because I have absolutely no problem playing any other PS3 game online? Maybe their servers are not set up to handle traffic from specific regions? Maybe their netcode is really crappy on some cables/routers and needs tweaking? Who knows. Like others have mentioned, problems with Atlus servers.

[FiOth]

The NAT could be a possible issue. If a router cannot handle many tasks due to restrictions in NAT type most games won't function properly.

Check a port-forwarding site to see which ones you need open to properly play DS.

[Jerry-Boyle]

The NAT could be a possible issue. If a router cannot handle many tasks due to restrictions in NAT type most games won't function properly.

Check a port-forwarding site to see which ones you need open to properly play DS.

MY Ps3 is DMZ'd, so no need for port forwarding. That and I can play any game online perfectly except for Demon's Souls and Fat Princess which uses Peer to peer. Perhaps Demon's Souls uses that as well? If so, then that's the problem and may be what some of us are experiencing.

[Phalanix]

I was able to connect online for awhile, then all of a sudden last night I'm no longer connected to the DS server. I tried quitting then re-starting the game, it joins the server when I load my character, but when the game loads, I can't perform any of the online functions.

I think this started when I got the Thief's Ring and equipped it, not sure if the Thief's Ring affects the way I connect? Probably just a coincidence, I tried re-connecting without it equipped, but still no online features.

Likely some sort of US server issue - hope they fix it soon.

[Phalanix]

Connected back into the DS server tonight. Was playing when my Internet connection dropped, my PSN logged out and DS kicked me out of the game saying that I had signed out of PSN.

When I logged back into PSN and then DS, all the online functions were there again: blood stains, messages, spirits, etc.

[FiOth]

The NAT could be a possible issue. If a router cannot handle many tasks due to restrictions in NAT type most games won't function properly.

Check a port-forwarding site to see which ones you need open to properly play DS.

MY Ps3 is DMZ'd, so no need for port forwarding. That and I can play any game online perfectly except for Demon's Souls and Fat Princess which uses Peer to peer. Perhaps Demon's Souls uses that as well? If so, then that's the problem and may be what some of us are experiencing.

It very well might. Try changing related configuration on your router, see if something works.

[AKQJT]

My PS3 has a wired connection with static IP, is in my routers DMZ and my PS3 says NAT2. So no problems on my end.
The connection issues I'm experiencing depends solely on daytime. I play without any problem for hours from early afternoon to 6:00 p.m. (I'm located in Germany, so in the USA it's night or early morning).
After 6:00-7:00 p.m. I still have messages and bloodstains but summoning or playing as black or blue phantom is impossible. Doesn't work a single time.
Looks to me like a server issue when playing in peak times.
(hope my english was ok)

[ICE PICK]

the whole PSN is down atm

[MrScribble]

Ok ive done a few brief searchs on the forums and found little in the way of this problem and since im notallowed to make a thread till ive made 5 posts im going to drop a reply on the end of this one, if there is another thread/answer to my question throw a link my way.

Basically while i can connect to the server with no connection issues see blood stains and tips left right and center im unable to join a coop as a soul (friends cant see my soul sign) or see any soul signs in body form (this may just be bad luck but ive had a decent look around) it happened after a power out... wether this has ANYTHING to do with it i doubt.

Ive opened up some ports indicated by portfast.com for demons souls BUT since im getting everything else connecting fine i doubt this is the issue (using a dodgey old billion 7300).

TLDR: for the lazy people :P demons souls seems to be connecting fine (can see tips/blood) but cant see soul signs/people cant see my soul sign.

Cheers

[Shimizoki]

we had that problem last night, We restarted the game and then dropped a message before our soul sign and that generally made it so that others could see our signs

[Nuri]

So rather than making a thread about this, I just did a quick search and found this thread. Ran into a bit of a connection problem today. The first actually in the series of my 80 (I think 80 or at least close to that much) multiplayer part.

I had two phantoms and was moving through Boletaria palace, and right when we got to the dragon (1-4). It said "The Session has ended." not I'm not sure what that entails and didn't exactly know what happened at the time, but quite frustrating since right after I tried to summon from other soul signs, only to be greeted by "User could not be summoned from last soul sign" or something of the sort.

That "Session has ended" message left me depressed and hope that sort of issue can be dealt with :(.

[Karkarov]

The session has ended either means one of the blue phantoms got dc'd or your connection to the demon's souls server had a hiccup. There are a couple boss fights like the tower knight and adjudicator that are also well known for having issues if you bring two phantoms with you.

[Nuri]

So if one gets DC'd then both of them leave :/? Or both? Meh, I just thought it was unfair since I was so close to 1-4 boss and then that happened to me. I don't want it to be like the other bosses where I had to solo them.

So....much...tears.. :very_sad:

I do remember having two for the tower knight and joining others for the tower knight boss, not really having a problem. It seems the game will put me through heck, but give everyone else cake :tongue:

[Khan]

This has reached ridiculous levels. Last night, I couldn't stay connected at all even after 20 tries.

[Shimizoki]

I think its more human error with router settings being subpar rather than all the blame being on Atlus. I have my issues but the majority of the problems people mention I have never experianced, if it was thier fault I think it would be a much grander problem and effect far more people.

I have some issues with seeing my friend soul signs unless I restart the game sometimes. and restarting the game wouldn't fix a server issue, just a local one

[Jerry-Boyle]

I think its more human error with router settings being subpar rather than all the blame being on Atlus. I have my issues but the majority of the problems people mention I have never experianced, if it was thier fault I think it would be a much grander problem and effect far more people.

I have some issues with seeing my friend soul signs unless I restart the game sometimes. and restarting the game wouldn't fix a server issue, just a local one

Explain my problem, I can see bloodstains, ghosts of other players online running about and leave and read & rate other players messages. However I cannot summon nor invade nor get invaded nor challenge anybody. Been like this since I bought the game. PS3s upstairs with around 80% signal with Nat Type 2 and UpNp enabled and Gaming Mode in my router.
Every game that I played online uses dedicated servers to some degree and no problems, however games that have Player to Player connections I get massive problems from(Fat Princess). So my guess is Demon's Souls sues Peer to peer as there way to connect players to eachother.

[Shimizoki]

While that is possible, I am not sure. I am not saying the server is NOT flawed, merly suggesting that removing all restrictions will help most people. I am not sure exactly what your problem is but it seems to be a slight bit more complicated than mine. Make sure that you can press select and leave a message, if not you might be in offline mode (kinda). I would connect and be online, then it would drop and I would be offline but still see all the bloodstains/messages/soul signs that were then when I DC'd. by restarting the game I could tempraily fix that issue.

[Bizmal]

I have a freind that constantly get disconnect and it will not show msgs or soul marks.

[otakunoise]

so, i'm on new game +, and i haven't been able to play a single successfully connected coop game. well, i can co op in other people's games, and help them out in their campaign all i want. i've never been able to bring anyone into my campaign.

all other online functions work almost without flaw. i've only been disconnected from the server once. i've got nat type 2 and upnp available with the router firewall disabled, and the proper ports open for my ps3. also, our house has a really nice internet connection, because my roommate does web development. is anyone else having this problem?

[liquifiedart]

Somtimes I notice no white phantoms then i try to write a message and cant. Then i have to restart the game in order to get a connection.

[liquifiedart]

*Please say yes*

I have to send my PS3 in for repair and im' most likely not gonna get the same one back!!

The Demon Souls data is copyright protected so it is not gonig to allow me to backup->restore onto the New ps3!!!

Help me!!

[Shimizoki]

*Please say yes*

I have to send my PS3 in for repair and im' most likely not gonna get the same one back!!

The Demon Souls data is copyright protected so it is not gonig to allow me to backup->restore onto the New ps3!!!

Help me!!

Liquified, please don't ask the same question in multiple threads. I believe someone else mentioned in another thread that it is not backed up on the server and you will lose your save. Although I don't remember if it was confirmed or not that is most likely the case.

The only place you posted that was correct was in the patches section.

for your first post, That seems to be a common problem, I have it too

[liquifiedart]

*Please say yes*

I have to send my PS3 in for repair and im' most likely not gonna get the same one back!!

The Demon Souls data is copyright protected so it is not gonig to allow me to backup->restore onto the New ps3!!!

Help me!!

Liquified, please don't ask the same question in multiple threads. I believe someone else mentioned in another thread that it is not backed up on the server and you will lose your save. Although I don't remember if it was confirmed or not that is most likely the case.

The only place you posted that was correct was in the patches section.

for your first post, That seems to be a common problem, I have it too

Does it do anything for you to pretend to be a forum Police Officer? Seriously?
Obviously, I needed to post 5 times to make a thread. So I did. Does it cause a corrosive impact on your life when posts are off topic?

If all the above answers are "no", then your better off being quiet and moving on.

[RedRocket]

So, even though I thought it was going to be useless, I moved my PS3 into my router's DMZ so that there were no firewall/port issues when connecting to the PSN/Atlus servers to play DS.

IT WAS USELESS. I still ended up getting disconnected from the Atlus server. Again, this issue does not stop the game to tell me I have lost my connection, it simply is the issue where there are no longer helpful texts, no ghosts, no summoning, no invades.


Why has Atlus not acknowledged this issue? It is obvious that the mods are watching this forum and I do not recall a single post on this thread of acknowledgment of this Atlus server issue.

I have recommended the NA release version of DS to many people and I am now going to stop recommending it until Atlus gets this server issue resolved.

Atlus, at least tell us you are working on this issue instead of leaving all us DS players hung out to dry. It is reported that by end of third week of sales, Atlus' release of DS has sold 174,588 copies. Even if Atlus only received $20 per copy, that equates to $3,491,760 in just the first 3 weeks. $3.5 million and we can't even get a response that this issue IS Atlus' issues and they are working on it.


Seriously Disappointing

[Shimizoki]

maybe because they are working on it? (they want it to be a surprise, like uncle larry's birthday party) Or because there isnt to much they can do unles they upgrade hardware, or wait it out until the softies die out and stop playing the game?

[RedRocket]

Well, hopefully they are not taking the approach of waiting it out being that they did a second reprint because the game was a lot more popular than they thought it would be because of word of mouth.

There did not seem to be a big budget for advertising and this game is doing well because of word of mouth. It would be a shame if word of mouth in the opposite direction were to start becoming popular.

I suppose I could always report my own post #142 and see if there is any response.

[Shimizoki]

Well, hopefully they are not taking the approach of waiting it out being that they did a second reprint because the game was a lot more popular than they thought it would be because of word of mouth.

There did not seem to be a big budget for advertising and this game is doing well because of word of mouth. It would be a shame if word of mouth in the opposite direction were to start becoming popular.

I suppose I could always report my own post #142 and see if there is any response.

I almost reported your post, but I dont want my name to be the one that reported a post that technically did nothing wrong xD

[RedRocket]

hehe...


I've done the annoying thing before. You do walk a fine line though trying to not be banned. Iv'e done it before. 07 STI on Cobb forums although it was concerning a $700 piece of equipment I bought from them and I became a thorn in their side on their, and other popular forums until Cobb fixed their issue.

I will never be disrespectful, but I do believe that a company should follow through with making sure their products are working correctly.

[Shimizoki]

I will never be disrespectful, but I do believe that a company should follow through with making sure their products are working correctly.

Agreed but remember we are only a little bit in, give it time, they never expected the game to be so good, therefore they were underprepared, im sure they will catch up.

[RedRocket]

Agreed but remember we are only a little bit in, give it time, they never expected the game to be so good, therefore they were underprepared, im sure they will catch up.

Yes, understood. I would feel satisfied if Atlus would at least acknowledge the issue and inform all of us that it was being worked on.

[DarkFocus]

ya if atlus replied i'd feel much better too. right now I feel like their just ignoring it or don't even know it exist. :/

[Shimizoki]

well then somebody flame someone and i'll report it and that will force atlus to look at the thread do it in this format

"flame flame flam flame
Read this entire thread
Flame flame flame
And post on here in response so we feel better
flame flame flame"

[RedRocket]

My intuition tells me, no I'm not female so maybe it's borked, that Atlus is looking at this thread already.

The mods have locked a number of threads that starting slightly going south...doubtful that all those threads had a post that was reported.

[Obsidian]

Edited.

[istar]

I will never be disrespectful, but I do believe that a company should follow through with making sure their products are working correctly.

Agreed but remember we are only a little bit in, give it time, they never expected the game to be so good, therefore they were underprepared, im sure they will catch up.

The game was released in japan about a year before the US launch no?

[Shimizoki]

I will never be disrespectful, but I do believe that a company should follow through with making sure their products are working correctly.

Agreed but remember we are only a little bit in, give it time, they never expected the game to be so good, therefore they were underprepared, im sure they will catch up.

The game was released in japan about a year before the US launch no?

but the US servers are that's having the problem, not the game. the fact it released over there doesn't help the hardware over here. they didn't think Americans would like it so much.

[Jerry-Boyle]

I found out what my problem was. My router when wireless. However when the PS3 is connected to my router via lan line cable the phantoms/black phantoms will work. Not all the time but before they didn't work ever and now they do:) Try plugging the PS3 in. My PS3 was getting 60-80 % signal...I guess you need 100% to use the phantoms.

[Khan]

I found out what my problem was. My router when wireless. However when the PS3 is connected to my router via lan line cable the phantoms/black phantoms will work. Not all the time but before they didn't work ever and now they do:) Try plugging the PS3 in. My PS3 was getting 60-80 % signal...I guess you need 100% to use the phantoms.
That doesn't fix it. If you read the previous messages, you will see that we tried everything, DMZ, portforwarding, ethernet cable instead of wireless and other weird stuff with our router settings. Does. Not. Work. I already had 100% wireless connectivity, but tried the ethernet cable even though it didn't make any sense. I was right, it made no difference. I would still get randomly disconnected which forces me to quit game and load it again. This nonsense sort of off put me from the game. Initially right after buying I was ecstatic and played it nonstop and gushed all over. I didn't realize I was disconnected. After the first week, I tried really hard to stay connected. Nowadays, I don't feel like playing the game due to these problems and I'm having a good time with Uncharted 2. If Atlus doesn't fix this, I probably won't go back to completing Demon's souls.

[Shimizoki]

I found out what my problem was. My router when wireless. However when the PS3 is connected to my router via lan line cable the phantoms/black phantoms will work. Not all the time but before they didn't work ever and now they do:) Try plugging the PS3 in. My PS3 was getting 60-80 % signal...I guess you need 100% to use the phantoms.
That doesn't fix it. If you read the previous messages, you will see that we tried everything, DMZ, portforwarding, ethernet cable instead of wireless and other weird stuff with our router settings. Does. Not. Work. I already had 100% wireless connectivity, but tried the ethernet cable even though it didn't make any sense. I was right, it made no difference. I would still get randomly disconnected which forces me to quit game and load it again. This nonsense sort of off put me from the game. Initially right after buying I was ecstatic and played it nonstop and gushed all over. I didn't realize I was disconnected. After the first week, I tried really hard to stay connected. Nowadays, I don't feel like playing the game due to these problems and I'm having a good time with Uncharted 2. If Atlus doesn't fix this, I probably won't go back to completing Demon's souls.

After a bit more studying and I myself tore my router settings to shreds I have not come up with a solution either. Sorry K. it seems that you have done everything in your power, now its up to atlus.

[Karkarov]

Has it ever occured to you it is your ISP? Who do you connect with, what type of internet is it, what are your NAT settings, blah blah blah. I am not saying it is something you can fix sitting in your house, it probably isn't, but at the same time I have long since learned that when a service is being used by a large number of people and only a minority have an issue it is almost always not a problem with the service itself.

Personally I think PSN in general hates routers. Most of my disconnects (which are rare at best) are actually me getting booted from PSN which has nothing to do with Atlus and DS's.

[Jerry-Boyle]

I found out what my problem was. My router when wireless. However when the PS3 is connected to my router via lan line cable the phantoms/black phantoms will work. Not all the time but before they didn't work ever and now they do:) Try plugging the PS3 in. My PS3 was getting 60-80 % signal...I guess you need 100% to use the phantoms.
That doesn't fix it. If you read the previous messages, you will see that we tried everything, DMZ, portforwarding, ethernet cable instead of wireless and other weird stuff with our router settings. Does. Not. Work. I already had 100% wireless connectivity, but tried the ethernet cable even though it didn't make any sense. I was right, it made no difference. I would still get randomly disconnected which forces me to quit game and load it again. This nonsense sort of off put me from the game. Initially right after buying I was ecstatic and played it nonstop and gushed all over. I didn't realize I was disconnected. After the first week, I tried really hard to stay connected. Nowadays, I don't feel like playing the game due to these problems and I'm having a good time with Uncharted 2. If Atlus doesn't fix this, I probably won't go back to completing Demon's souls.


It fixed it for me for awhile then a new problem occured. My select button wouldn't work, not to mention sometimes I could not see bloodstains & ghosts and obviously the phantoms portion of the game wouldn't work either. So even if I did fix it again for a bit, something with the Atlus's servers ####ed it up anyway. I was still logged into PSN when this was happening and no messages of me disconnecting form Demon's Souls which actually looked like it happened. UpNp enabled, Nat Type 2, directly connected to the internet and media server connection disabled. Could be a problem with the ISP but if it is. Shouldn't this problem affect all my games besides Demon's Souls?

[RedRocket]

^^^ I've got two PS3s. One a 80g and the other a 120g slim. I take the slim to hotels and have experienced disconnects at different hotels using the Atlus version DS. My 80g PS3 at home also experiences the disconnect with the Atlus version DS.

I also have the Korean version of DS and have never experienced a disconnect on either PS3. :confused:

Has it ever occured to you it is your ISP? Who do you connect with, what type of internet is it, what are your NAT settings, blah blah blah. I am not saying it is something you can fix sitting in your house, it probably isn't, but at the same time I have long since learned that when a service is being used by a large number of people and only a minority have an issue it is almost always not a problem with the service itself.


It fixed it for me for awhile then a new problem occured. My select button wouldn't work, not to mention sometimes I could not see bloodstains & ghosts and obviously the phantoms portion of the game wouldn't work either. So even if I did fix it again for a bit, something with the Atlus's servers ####ed it up anyway. I was still logged into PSN when this was happening and no messages of me disconnecting form Demon's Souls which actually looked like it happened. UpNp enabled, Nat Type 2, directly connected to the internet and media server connection disabled. Could be a problem with the ISP but if it is. Shouldn't this problem affect all my games besides Demon's Souls?

Karkarov,

I quoted myself as I have left the same piece of information multiple times on this thread...not criticizing you for not knowing BTW :)

But, the point is I take my second PS3 with me when I travel and experience the same Atlus server disconnects at ISPs in different states. Even when I do have a day where there were no disconnects, the next day at the same ISP there is a disconnect. But, when I play my Korean version of DS, no disconnects at home or on travel. The Korean version and Atlus version are close enough to be considered almost identical. The absolute difference is the servers they are running off of.

Now, if you are still convinced it is local ISPs, then there are A LOT of ISPs out there having the same issue as A LOT of people are complaining of the Atlus server disconnects on this board, PSN and others. If it is true that it is not an Atlus server and it is ISPs, where is Atlus in this thread trying to help us through it because Atlus still looks at fault here? This is a much bigger problem than just a few people having an isolated issue.

I have mentioned it earlier in this thread but it deserves another mention. Because of the Atlus server disconnects, I am informing people to not buy Atlus' version of DS until this server disconnect issue gets resolved.

[Jerry-Boyle]

^^^ I've got two PS3s. One a 80g and the other a 120g slim. I take the slim to hotels and have experienced disconnects at different hotels using the Atlus version DS. My 80g PS3 at home also experiences the disconnect with the Atlus version DS.

I also have the Korean version of DS and have never experienced a disconnect on either PS3. :confused:

Has it ever occured to you it is your ISP? Who do you connect with, what type of internet is it, what are your NAT settings, blah blah blah. I am not saying it is something you can fix sitting in your house, it probably isn't, but at the same time I have long since learned that when a service is being used by a large number of people and only a minority have an issue it is almost always not a problem with the service itself.


It fixed it for me for awhile then a new problem occured. My select button wouldn't work, not to mention sometimes I could not see bloodstains & ghosts and obviously the phantoms portion of the game wouldn't work either. So even if I did fix it again for a bit, something with the Atlus's servers ####ed it up anyway. I was still logged into PSN when this was happening and no messages of me disconnecting form Demon's Souls which actually looked like it happened. UpNp enabled, Nat Type 2, directly connected to the internet and media server connection disabled. Could be a problem with the ISP but if it is. Shouldn't this problem affect all my games besides Demon's Souls?

Karkarov,

I quoted myself as I have left the same piece of information multiple times on this thread...not criticizing you for not knowing BTW :)

But, the point is I take my second PS3 with me when I travel and experience the same Atlus server disconnects at ISPs in different states. Even when I do have a day where there were no disconnects, the next day at the same ISP there is a disconnect. But, when I play my Korean version of DS, no disconnects at home or on travel. The Korean version and Atlus version are close enough to be considered almost identical. The absolute difference is the servers they are running off of.

Now, if you are still convinced it is local ISPs, then there are A LOT of ISPs out there having the same issue as A LOT of people are complaining of the Atlus server disconnects on this board, PSN and others. If it is true that it is not an Atlus server and it is ISPs, where is Atlus in this thread trying to help us through it because Atlus still looks at fault here? This is a much bigger problem than just a few people having an isolated issue.

I have mentioned it earlier in this thread but it deserves another mention. Because of the Atlus server disconnects, I am informing people to not buy Atlus' version of DS until this server disconnect issue gets resolved.

Doubt that will happen, Atlus may be closing down the Demon's Souls servers around April 2010. Read it in the Terms Of Service or w/e when I first got the game. Atleast that was the plan then, terms of service also said they could change it at any point in time. Could be different by now.

[RedRocket]

Doubt that will happen, Atlus may be closing down the Demon's Souls servers around April 2010. Read it in the Terms Of Service or w/e when I first got the game. Atleast that was the plan then, terms of service also said they could change it at any point in time. Could be different by now.

I completely understand where you are coming from.

However, Atlus going for a second pressing tells me different. Atlus determined off of market studies what would be a viable business plan to make profit by bringing DS to NA. They determined how many copies to press for the initial run. They were wrong. The popularity was much higher than even they expected so now what?

Will they still drop the server come 4/10?

Will they charge for online service?

Will they fix their server problem?

Will they even acknowledge the server problem?

Since the game has become more popular than expected, will FROM SOFTWARE follow DS up?

Will Atlus be able to publish a follow up DS for NA?

[jeppys]

I've had a lot of fun with this game (35 hours in), but it has become more and more frustrating not having the online component on a consistent basis. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in as a supporter of wanting some sort of response from Atlus.

[Khan]

t that will happen, Atlus may be closing down the Demon's Souls servers around April 2010. Read it in the Terms Of Service or w/e when I first got the game. Atleast that was the plan then, terms of service also said they could change it at any point in time. Could be different by now.
If you read it correctly, you will understand that Atlus simply reserves the right to shut down servers after April 2010. It does not mean they're shutting them down and closing shop come April. They will base this on number of people still playing the game, software sales, etc. So far, it looks pretty good. Demon's Souls still isn't released in Europe but judging by strong sales and reaction, they might port it.

Even if the connectivity issue is due to ISPs or the cable from ISP to our home, its something out of our bounds. The place where I live, there is only one ISP called RCN. I can't even switch even if I wanted to. I live in a densely populated area, so judging by that the ISP still delivers pretty good speeds all around. Like I said, PSN works flawlessly and so do other games like Uncharted 2 and Left4Dead on PC with great pings. Only when it comes to Demon's Souls I get these nasty connection issues.

[Fuxoft]

I stopped playing shortly after the "server upgrade" (which actually made the connection problems WORSE for me). I tried playing for about 2 hours today and I stayed online the whole time, without any problems! This had never happened to me before in my 40 hours of playing. Because I didn't change anything in my home network configuration, it seems the server issues are fixed (I am not talking about PvP, I never tried that yet) now!

[armortier]

That why Im selling my DS US version and staying only with the ASIA version. Its the same game, Its my same PS3 and it works.

Atlus, you suck hard and I expect I never heard from you again. A LOT of people are having this issue and you just dont do nothing orm at least, makes some kind of annoucement.


Incompetent people.

[Khan]

That why Im selling my DS US version and staying only with the ASIA version. Its the same game, Its my same PS3 and it works.

Atlus, you suck hard and I expect I never heard from you again. A LOT of people are having this issue and you just dont do nothing orm at least, makes some kind of annoucement.


Incompetent people.

What bothers me most is that they're completely unaware. It would be nice to atleast acknowledge the problems.

[RedRocket]

This week has been the worst for connection issues.

MAJOR FAIL on Atlus' part...why?

Other than Atlus not addressing this issue or even acknowledging it yet, I issued a technical trouble with Atlus' Technical Support group well over a week ago with the response that I will be contacted right away.

What, no response from Atlus you don't say? That is some serious BS.

Atlus, WTH is your problem?

PSN, here I come.

[megasaur]

from day one something told me that demon souls would be an over the night niche game to hold people over till diablo 3 comes out. I should of guess it would of been connection issues too.

Thats what I hate most about games with advanced graphics and animations they always just seem to have all these obnoxious connection problems. Age of conan had terrible connection problems too.

[LordShogun]

When you say that you're having server/connections, what problems are you guys getting? For me I'll be playing through normal after signing in and going online, however after I beat a boss and go to the nexus or just simply go back to the nexus from one of the worlds and then return to one all messages/blood stains/souls signs will dissapear and I won't be able to write messages nor grade people I recently played with, when I push select nothing pops up, as if I were offline. It's weird since nothing pops up for me on screen telling me I've been taken off of online mode and put into offline, which gets very annoying after you've been waiting for a soul sign before a boss for help only to realise you've been put into offline randomly..:mad:

[Grimlorn]

I keep on checking these forums to see if Atlus is going to announce something but no they haven't, and they do have mods reading these posts. I made an upset post and it was deleted by a mod, but no pm or anything from the mod. I'm afraid if I do another one I'll just get banned with no warning at all. It's incredible you have to act like an asshole to get a response from companies like these.

They should at least announce they are looking into it and whether or not there is a problem. I mean I have gotten d/cs from the server when invading other guys. "Network problems" not "session failed" problems, but usually I'm fighting for a minute or 2 with huge lag then it happens, and pretty much all of the time now, when I invade I have lag issues, but sometimes people that I fight don't have any lag issues, besides getting hit by me after I die.

I am on a router and the only thing left to do is connect directly to my modem and see if it's an issue with a router. However I doubt it considering I forwarded ports, and if they are the right ports I should be getting a similar connection to one directly connected to the modem. Hell I can host games online if I forward ports on a router.

I've tested internet connection on PS3, it looks the same as on the comp (cable speed). On Nat 2 which is normal from what I've read.

[Khan]

I keep on checking these forums to see if Atlus is going to announce something but no they haven't, and they do have mods reading these posts. I made an upset post and it was deleted by a mod, but no pm or anything from the mod. I'm afraid if I do another one I'll just get banned with no warning at all. It's incredible you have to act like an asshole to get a response from companies like these.

They should at least announce they are looking into it and whether or not there is a problem. I mean I have gotten d/cs from the server when invading other guys. "Network problems" not "session failed" problems, but usually I'm fighting for a minute or 2 with huge lag then it happens, and pretty much all of the time now, when I invade I have lag issues, but sometimes people that I fight don't have any lag issues, besides getting hit by me after I die.

I am on a router and the only thing left to do is connect directly to my modem and see if it's an issue with a router. However I doubt it considering I forwarded ports, and if they are the right ports I should be getting a similar connection to one directly connected to the modem. Hell I can host games online if I forward ports on a router.

I've tested internet connection on PS3, it looks the same as on the comp (cable speed). On Nat 2 which is normal from what I've read.
Its really tragic that Atlus chose to behave this way. Look at Naughty Dog's forums, where mods and game makers are consistently in touch with their users. They patched Uncharted 2 by compiling a list of issues from one of their threads during the Beta, and also recently patched again after hearing about glitches from users. That is how an ideal company should behave. I really lost a lot of respect for Atlus and I stopped recommending the game to people.

The only thing we can do is keep this thread at #1 for as long as possible. Its sad we have to resort to this, but hopefully SOMEONE at Atlus will chance upon it.

[pktazn]

I've been randomly cut off from the game too... there are times when I know it's not the actual connection to the internet but it just simply decides that it doesn't want me.

I use wireless but I'm pretty close to the router so I don't know if that's the problem or not... hmmm... maybe if we keep bumping this they'll try to reach FROM or something if they're not the ones who deal with the actual server patches.

[Winger]

If I had read this thread prior to placing my order for Demon's Souls, I may have went with the Asia or the Japan version. I really hope I don't encounter too many online problems with my inbound US version.

It'd just be my luck for it to finally be announced that a European publisher is picking it up, and then have to buy that version for a more reliant online experience. Damn you Demon's Souls for forcing my hand! It was impossible to resist any longer.

[RedRocket]

When you say that you're having server/connections, what problems are you guys getting? For me I'll be playing through normal after signing in and going online, however after I beat a boss and go to the nexus or just simply go back to the nexus from one of the worlds and then return to one all messages/blood stains/souls signs will dissapear and I won't be able to write messages nor grade people I recently played with, when I push select nothing pops up, as if I were offline. It's weird since nothing pops up for me on screen telling me I've been taken off of online mode and put into offline, which gets very annoying after you've been waiting for a soul sign before a boss for help only to realise you've been put into offline randomly..:mad:

That is exactly the problem most are having. I just make sure to hit <select> prior to leaving my blue summon or ??? because if nothing comes up from hitting <select>, no summoning is going to happen. You will have to quit the game and relaunch it to potentially get reconnected.

[LordShogun]

^Glad to hear it's not just me RedRocket, I thought something was up with my copy of the game for the longest time.

[Khan]

When you say that you're having server/connections, what problems are you guys getting? For me I'll be playing through normal after signing in and going online, however after I beat a boss and go to the nexus or just simply go back to the nexus from one of the worlds and then return to one all messages/blood stains/souls signs will dissapear and I won't be able to write messages nor grade people I recently played with, when I push select nothing pops up, as if I were offline. It's weird since nothing pops up for me on screen telling me I've been taken off of online mode and put into offline, which gets very annoying after you've been waiting for a soul sign before a boss for help only to realise you've been put into offline randomly..:mad:

That is exactly the problem most are having. I just make sure to hit <select> prior to leaving my blue summon or ??? because if nothing comes up from hitting <select>, no summoning is going to happen. You will have to quit the game and relaunch it to potentially get reconnected.

Yep. Hitting select to see if you're connected or not is the only way I can check. Usually right after loading a game, it gets connected or disconnected within the first 5-10 seconds. If it doesn't get connected, I quit and re load the game. If it does get connected, it won't last very long. Rinse and repeat.

[jormanks]

Hi guys, it's a shame we all get problems like this.
The only thing we can do to make them take notice is, maybe, put this thread in the first page. If that doesn't help at all, maybe we can make some gaming blogs to look over here and maybe put some pressure on.

[Khan]

Hi guys, it's a shame we all get problems like this.
The only thing we can do to make them take notice is, maybe, put this thread in the first page. If that doesn't help at all, maybe we can make some gaming blogs to look over here and maybe put some pressure on.

There has not been a single reply from Atlus on this issue, and this thread has been around since the NA launch. I don't know why they are neglecting our problems.

[Jerry-Boyle]

Hi guys, it's a shame we all get problems like this.
The only thing we can do to make them take notice is, maybe, put this thread in the first page. If that doesn't help at all, maybe we can make some gaming blogs to look over here and maybe put some pressure on.

There has not been a single reply from Atlus on this issue, and this thread has been around since the NA launch. I don't know why they are neglecting our problems.
I believe they don't check these forums at all. I have never seen an employee form Atlus on the Demon's Souls boards. They could be elsewhere, but they are def not here.

[RedRocket]

I believe they don't check these forums at all. I have never seen an employee form Atlus on the Demon's Souls boards. They could be elsewhere, but they are def not here.

No disrespect to you...but I do not believe that for a second.


Oh, and Atlus Technical Support has ignored my two technical troubles I logged with them over this issue as well. :question::mad:

http://www.atlus.com/contactus.php

Make sure to use to Technical Support option in the drop down.

[JohnnyNG]

hmm, i haven't had any problems so far other than it taking forever to find someone to play with

[jormanks]

at least you have someone to play with.

[Jerry-Boyle]

Little update to my problem, I now no longer get disconnections from the Demon's Souls server(Or at least for the time I played on it). I got a new cable modem(Old one was 10 years old and kept restarting itself four times throughout the day) and now I stay on the server. However I still can't summon(Get summoned) blue phantoms/get invaded(invade)/challenge unless I'm directly connected to my router.
So if your problem is disconnections from the server, try getting a new cable modem or whatever your using to connect to the internet. It could be outdated and restarting itself like my old one did.

[Khan]

Little update to my problem, I now no longer get disconnections from the Demon's Souls server(Or at least for the time I played on it). I got a new cable modem(Old one was 10 years old and kept restarting itself four times throughout the day) and now I stay on the server. However I still can't summon(Get summoned) blue phantoms/get invaded(invade)/challenge unless I'm directly connected to my router.
So if your problem is disconnections from the server, try getting a new cable modem or whatever your using to connect to the internet. It could be outdated and restarting itself like my old one did.
If your cable modem kept restarting, then you would have noticed it getting disconnected from PSN, no? I mean if my cable modem disconnects, I should get kicked out of not only Atlus' Demons souls server but from PSN as well.

[Jerry-Boyle]

Little update to my problem, I now no longer get disconnections from the Demon's Souls server(Or at least for the time I played on it). I got a new cable modem(Old one was 10 years old and kept restarting itself four times throughout the day) and now I stay on the server. However I still can't summon(Get summoned) blue phantoms/get invaded(invade)/challenge unless I'm directly connected to my router.
So if your problem is disconnections from the server, try getting a new cable modem or whatever your using to connect to the internet. It could be outdated and restarting itself like my old one did.
If your cable modem kept restarting, then you would have noticed it getting disconnected from PSN, no? I mean if my cable modem disconnects, I should get kicked out of not only Atlus' Demons souls server but from PSN as well.
Think that happened as well, so maybe my problem hasn't been fixed. Musta just been a few good few hrs I've played then LOL ####ty oh well.

[therrookiee]

hi, i cant make a new tread, i dont know why, anyway i post it here..

everytime when i start DS i am logged in correctly, without any problems.
but when game starts, then it looks i am not logged in.
i dont see any of users posts, any of their deaths, nothing.
i cant post msg when i pust select button, i cant push select button.

from 20 tries of playing this game, i saw everything maybe 2 times for 5 minutes, then everything dissapear..

something like they automatically log me out..

i am from eu and i have us atlus version..

can be this a main problem?
i think and hope not.

anyone else having this same problem?

btw my internet is ok, every other online game is working perfectly on my ps3..

thank you very much for some help, i really dont know what i can do...

[therrookiee]

oki,
i found the solution here on this forum from user Radelta, thank you...

i repost his msg here >

Personally I just think, for some reason the network coding in this game is very unfriendly to routers.

For me, I cant even get the game to go online when my router is connected, but if I directly plug it to my modem, I get a perfect connection without any interuption/lag/fail to connect messages. And It never drops me either.

---
i tried to plug my cable directly to ps3 without using router.
my router is D-Link DI-524.. he has i think D-Link too..
then is everything working perfectly, finally after 2 weeks, lol

someone can make this msg sticky or something, i cant make a new thread..
for others with same problem, something is wrong with this game and some routers..
or make a patch...

thank you, online is awesome...

[Slash8915]

I haven't had any problems yet.

[Hahalo]

I'm having a major connection issue since 1 week ago and I'm very frustrated, using Linksys by Cisco, Wireless-G ADSL2+ Gateway. I'm using direct cable plug into PS3, anyone have a solutions for it, can PS3 use wireless? Or I must buy a new modem to solve the problem?

My connection is so bad now that

- "Breaking In" sign appear after I have reload my character
- 33 "Breaking In" sign, 2 times invaded, 31 times failed.
- Get pawned even if invaded, there is no way I can dodge any attack.
- Demon Soul Server can logged me on, even when PS3 detect no connection.
- My controller is flying all over the room, so with the Linksys piece of junk.

Do advice, please.

[Jerry-Boyle]

I'm having a major connection issue since 1 week ago and I'm very frustrated, using Linksys by Cisco, Wireless-G ADSL2+ Gateway. I'm using direct cable plug into PS3, anyone have a solutions for it, can PS3 use wireless? Or I must buy a new modem to solve the problem?

My connection is so bad now that

- "Breaking In" sign appear after I have reload my character
- 33 "Breaking In" sign, 2 times invaded, 31 times failed.
- Get pawned even if invaded, there is no way I can dodge any attack.
- Demon Soul Server can logged me on, even when PS3 detect no connection.
- My controller is flying all over the room, so with the Linksys piece of junk.

Do advice, please.
Quite the problem here, yes PS3s do have a wireless setting. However usually having it directly plugged in is better then going wireless. Wireless tends to have internet drops frequently while being directly plugged in keeps the internet steady
It could be that you need a new modem, my old cable modem(10 years old) constantly restarted everybody's internet 4 times throughout the day everyday but when I got a new one it stopped.
Getting pwned in Demon's Souls is not your internets fault. However you could be lagging while they aren't and they could also easily be stronger then you.
This is interesting, so you can't connect to the PSN but you can connect to the Demon's Souls server? Perhaps your going into offline mode?
I'm picturing the actual controller flying around the room, this can not be so explain it better. Like what do you mean flying over the room?

[Hahalo]

Haha I meant I throw the controller for being really frustrated about the connection. Thus "Flying across the room" was use as a description.

Yup, and is weird, cause demon soul server actually logged me on while PS3 have no connection at all.

Thanks for the help, I guess my only option is to consider getting a new modem just for online pvp sake.

[Pieter]

errr...haven't had that problem - thankfully

[jedbeetle]

The only consistent problem I've encountered is when summoning 2 blues for the tower knight. They just disappear at some point during the battle. Does this still happen? I try to rush and kill him before it happens.

[jeremyjebz]

A lot recently I have been disconected right at the end of boss fights when I am a blue phantom. Are people just being jerks or is it a connection issue?
Does anyone else have this problem?

[LordShogun]

A lot recently I have been disconected right at the end of boss fights when I am a blue phantom. Are people just being jerks or is it a connection issue?
Does anyone else have this problem?

My guess is it's the game, when I've been playing through some NG+'s I always try and get two blues per boss to make sure I keep my tendency to pure white while I play online, and sometime for no reason both of them leave, almost always right near the end. My connection itself sometimes acts up being wireless and all, but it happens far to many times to be simply my connection.

[RedRocket]

I have had a lot of Atlus server problems in the past but believe I can now offer some help to lesson those server disconnects. I have done a lot of reading about the different server disconnects people are experiencing and as a result, have tried to lesson mine. Here is the conclusion I have come to:

For those that can never get DS to go online - assign a static IP to your PS3 and then put that IP on your router's DMZ. This allows your PS3 to effectively sit outside your router and not allow any ports to be blocked to potentially be affected. Blocked ports, or other slightly related problems with ports, will kill an online gaming experience.

For those who can go online but end up being disconnected from Atlus' server - Consider hardwiring your PS3. Yes, even if you have a 100% wireless signal, get away from the wireless connections. I have experienced a considerable improvement after moving both of my PS3s to hardwired connections. It is not perfect - ARE YOUR HEARING THIS ATLUS - but it is much improved.

I am now experiencing a lot less disconnects after these two changes. Again, I still can experience disconnects but not nearly the amount I was experiencing.

[Khan]

A lot recently I have been disconected right at the end of boss fights when I am a blue phantom. Are people just being jerks or is it a connection issue?
Does anyone else have this problem?

It has happened to me a lot too. People are not being jerks. They don't go through the trouble of helping you out only to log off during the boss fight. If you notice, if you have two blues helping you out both of them disappear which means that its a server problem.

[ShadowVoix]

I haven't had any connection problems yet after 20+ hours of play.

[Kageh]

I have had a lot of Atlus server problems in the past but believe I can now offer some help to lesson those server disconnects. I have done a lot of reading about the different server disconnects people are experiencing and as a result, have tried to lesson mine. Here is the conclusion I have come to:

For those that can never get DS to go online - assign a static IP to your PS3 and then put that IP on your router's DMZ. This allows your PS3 to effectively sit outside your router and not allow any ports to be blocked to potentially be affected. Blocked ports, or other slightly related problems with ports, will kill an online gaming experience.

For those who can go online but end up being disconnected from Atlus' server - Consider hardwiring your PS3. Yes, even if you have a 100% wireless signal, get away from the wireless connections. I have experienced a considerable improvement after moving both of my PS3s to hardwired connections. It is not perfect - ARE YOUR HEARING THIS ATLUS - but it is much improved.

I am now experiencing a lot less disconnects after these two changes. Again, I still can experience disconnects but not nearly the amount I was experiencing.

I have been playing Demon's Souls for 5 months now on the japanese servers, without a single disconnect, without forced offline, without being booted from multiplayer. It has not happened once in five months.

Enter the US launch, randomly (but very easily reproduceable around prime time) all the bloodstains and signs disappear and my select button stops working. I've had this happen about one out of 2-3 evenings at least once, and if I wasn't paying attention I wouldn't have noticed probably.

Incidentally, it also usually happens when I "zone" in the game (be it through passing a subzone border or after a loading screen).

It is NOT your network. It is a server problem. Unless they changed something big time regarding the game networking implementation when migrating it to the US.

[lesky1369]

ya 200+ hours and have only been logged out of ds server couple times. and it was probably internet issue. are you guys able to play other games online, like call of duty?

some of the boss fights do kick the blues. and many many times if the summoning failed its most likely because either the host or the phantom has died before the summoning could finish.

i will say though, the lag in this game is huge

[WitheredHand]

I haven't had any issues. I play with a wireless connection too.

[Slazer]

I feel sorry for everyone having issues because I have never had a single major problem maybe a tiny one here or there but I think for a playstation game its just as good as any other game online.

[SP1NAL]

mark me down for the diminishing connection issues.

i log in, see people happily ghosting about, and see msg's and signs everywhere... then i go about my business and realize everything is gone. no more ghosts, no more msgs, and i can't use my select function. i've been able to resolve this by back-tracking to the title screen and relogging, but now, not even that works.

with atlus' 100% customer satisfaction dedication, i would've figured there would be an answer to this madness at some point. not that i am saying anything against atlus, as i'm sure they have many things on their plate, but still, it would be nice to get some kind of insight or acknowledgement.

*edit: spelz
**edit: and, of course, they didn't develop the title.

[RedRocket]

I have been playing Demon's Souls for 5 months now on the japanese servers, without a single disconnect, without forced offline, without being booted from multiplayer. It has not happened once in five months.

Enter the US launch, randomly (but very easily reproduceable around prime time) all the bloodstains and signs disappear and my select button stops working. I've had this happen about one out of 2-3 evenings at least once, and if I wasn't paying attention I wouldn't have noticed probably.

Incidentally, it also usually happens when I "zone" in the game (be it through passing a subzone border or after a loading screen).

It is NOT your network. It is a server problem. Unless they changed something big time regarding the game networking implementation when migrating it to the US.

I couldn't agree with you more. I too have the Asian version of DS and NEVER experienced the disconnect issues. Somehow, that does not seem to trigger anything within Atlus...or at least they have not responded AT ALL about server disconnect issues.

That includes the two troubles I have issued with their Support department. To date, I have not been contacted from Atlus concerning either of those issues I've issued with them. Customer service??? Yeah, right.

My point was to explain some of the things I have done to help lesson the disconnects on my end. However, I do agree the main issues stems from the Atlus server and it still requires a fix.

[BirdmanJay]

I usually reboot my router and that fixes it for me. I reload my character and I am usually in the same spot where I initially got signed out.

[kazRium]

I have the same issue with the select button not working and all blue and red signs disappearing. I used to be able to fix it by power cycling my PS3, but that doesn't seem to work anymore. Anyone from Atlus or From out there?

:(

[Kageh]

Since it is a problem where you apparently lose your connection to the Atlus DS server (but not to PSN or the internet), you can keep trying to fix it by quitting game and loading your save, which basically forces another login attempt. You'll see it worked if the select button works and you see signs/bloodstains.

On peak hours it might take as much as 10-20 attempts til you get online again.

And yes, all my other internet stuff is working, I have ZERO packet loss to my wireless router, I know quite a bit about networking and I'm positive my network is okay.

[jormanks]

guys, try to play with your routers.

What i've done since last week is check the connection via the XMB network settings. I do this every time I want to play DS and it goes real smooth. Well, you have to check the download/upload speed, if its very low just enter your router settings and, while doing nothing, click save preferences.
If you do that the router kinda reset itself.

And so I can play. Try it out.

[jeremyjebz]

Ocassionally i stop seeing soul signs etc. and when i go to the main menu and reload my character it normally works, although once or twice i did have to reset my router. So try to reset the router for sure, and you could also try a wired connection if youre wireless, just to see if it makes a difference becuase it is more reliable.

[kazRium]

Well, I'm an idiot..

After a couple of nights of issues, I think I figured it out. My Windows 7 computer had uTorrent open and it was uploading a torrent, using a bunch of my bandwidth. I didn't notice it because by default the apps in the system tray are minimized in 7. Closed that out, problem solved.

Good luck guys, hope you find an answer!

[EskimoSpy]

really getting sick of the dc's. this is a great game that's getting drug through the mud by these dc's. ppl say the asian versions don't have this problem. is that true? is it Atlus server side code? atlus, step up

[jsbradley7]

It has nothing to do with the code, the NA version, or Atlus but rather with the individuals who dc. Considering that players of the Asian versions bow to the individual they have just invaded (an honorable act), it's understandable why players dcing (a dishonorable act) isn't a major problem.

[Thaumogenesis]

I'm getting disconnenctet at the Adjudicator about 8 out of 10 times. It's so annoying. It does not happen anywhere else. Somebody had this happen too?

[RedRocket]

It has nothing to do with the code, the NA version, or Atlus but rather with the individuals who dc. Considering that players of the Asian versions bow to the individual they have just invaded (an honorable act), it's understandable why players dcing (a dishonorable act) isn't a major problem.

that is something entirely different than what this thread was about.

[RedRocket]

I'm getting disconnenctet at the Adjudicator about 8 out of 10 times. It's so annoying. It does not happen anywhere else. Somebody had this happen too?

There seems to be an issue with Adjudicator and Tower Knight when you have summoned or been summoned to where there are two blue phantoms and the host that about 1/2 way through the boss fight, the blues will get disconnected.

Only summon one blue phantom for these boss fights if needed.

[RedRocket]

really getting sick of the dc's. this is a great game that's getting drug through the mud by these dc's. ppl say the asian versions don't have this problem. is that true? is it Atlus server side code? atlus, step up

I was plagued with disconnects on the Atlus version, not the Asian version, when I was using my PS3 with its wireless connection. Ever since I took the time to hardwire my PS3, I do not get the Atlus server disconnects any longer. No other changes had any affect for me.

[worterror]

I too used to have dropped connections at adjudicator and sometimes other bosses where I was a blue phantom or one of two blues plus the host. This was when I was set up wirelessly. I switched to wired and i have never had this problem again. As already stated the problems with losers disconnecting after losing a fight has to do with immature **%%$s who are poor losers. I'll bet those goofs never disconnect after they beat a black phantom though, only when they lose to one.

[YUR_GRANDMA]

yh im getting dc'ed a lot at adjudicator when theres 2 blue phantoms. Its always just when he has a sliver of hp left.

Realy annoying.

[YUR_GRANDMA]

i think I know whats happening in the adjudicator case.

Sometimes I get dc'ed with him sometimes I don't and this is with 2 blue phantoms.

I've been dc'ed 4 times and all of these times have happened the same way. If you attack him then he falls to the ground and then you wail on him but he doesn't die, it always has dc'ed me a little while after once he's gotten up.

If I stand on the steps and kill him with soul ray then i wont get dc'ed, i think wot you have to do is make sure you kill him the first time you knock him down or just hit his head from range.