My one major gripe with Demon's Souls is my major gripe with a lot of PS3 games...

[pedrovay2003]

...And that's the fact that your save file can't be backed up or transferred.

Don't get me wrong -- Unlike other PS3 games, I actually understand why the save file is locked with Demon's Souls. Since the game is constantly saving and you have to take all of your mistakes and just roll with them, it would be cheating to just reload your save to undo something you screwed up. However, I can't seem to justify putting so much time into a game that requires that much patience and dedication, only to possibly lose that save for a number of reasons (broken console, needing to reformat for one reason or another, upgrading to a Slim, etc.). The PS3 backup utility doesn't help, either, seeing as how the data MUST BE restored to the same exact console.

A friend of mine is coming in from New Jersey next month (I'm in Utah, by the way), and he's really into this game. I'm the one that got him into it, in fact. He really wants to show me his characters, but that can't happen unless he brings his entire PS3 out here, fighting the horrendous security in more than one airport to do so, despite the fact that I have my own PS3 in my house just waiting for us to play it. It's really inconvenient.

I'm not trying to sound mean, cruel, ass-ish, etc. etc., but this really is a problem to me. People over on the Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 5, and other PS3 game forums have complained about those locked saves as well, but the difference is that Resident Evil 5 was actually patched to remove the locks on the save files. Is there any chance that Demon's Souls could see that same treatment? As ridiculous as this may sound, that would actually make the game more enjoyable to me.

[Alex]

I agree.

We also discussed this already. :) How to save your save? (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4237)

[RedRocket]

Why don't developers just keep locked save games on their servers?

[ChiTownBoi]

they have their files locked so ppl wont go hacking the files. it happened to call of duty 4 for the online multiplayer there were hackers for quiet a while many ppl stopped playing for a while, and if all else get a external hdd and back up all ur files and there ya go u saved ur DS file

[reson8er]

I had to send my PS3 in for repair, and lost all my Street Fighter 4 save data. Killed the game for me, I'm really considering selling it now, as I don't have the patience to go through all the unlocking crap again.

[Mounce]

a Lot of PS3 games? What?...

Demon's Souls is the only game I know of....when I played a years worth of games on my 60GB and had to sell it, I transferred all my saves successfully to my Flashstick, and put it on my 120GB, so I don't know what you're talking about? .....

[RedRocket]

Game save data for both the asian and NA versions of Demon's Souls are copy protected when trying to make a single copy to something like a flash drive.

Verified today. So, if you did it before, then DS has changed.

[Zion0153]

So, if you just do a backup of your entire PS3 hard drive so you can transfer it to a bigger hard drive on the same PS3, will the save transfer with it?

[pedrovay2003]

I agree.

We also discussed this already. :) How to save your save? (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4237)

Gah, I'm sorry about that... I'm kinda new here, despite my long-time love of anything Atlus. :D



a Lot of PS3 games? What?...

Demon's Souls is the only game I know of....when I played a years worth of games on my 60GB and had to sell it, I transferred all my saves successfully to my Flashstick, and put it on my 120GB, so I don't know what you're talking about? .....

You can't transfer Demon's Souls data to a flash drive, SD card, memory stick, etc. They are permanently locked to the hard drive. System Backup won't do it, either, if you try to restore the data to a different console.

As for the games that have locked saves, here you go:

Bomberman Ultra
Brain Challenge
Crash Commando
Dark Mist
The Eye Of Judgment
Fat Princess
Killzone 2
LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Mega Man 9
Mercenaries 2: World In Flames
Need For Speed: Carbon
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Singstar
Skate 2
Street Fighter IV
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection Online
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
UFC: Undisputed
Wolfenstein

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and Resident Evil 5 were patched to remove the copy protection. I think Demon's Souls needs to get the same treatment. I understand that there's a chance that people will hack their saves, but honestly, it's not worth the trade-off. I can't make myself invest the time in the game without knowing nothing will go wrong in the future. Call me paranoid.

(By the way, I know From Software made the game, but Atlus actually listens to people, unlike 90% of game companies. Just saying. :P)

Also, Zion0153, yes, that should work. I've never done it myself, but it should work as long as the physical console is the same.

[ICE PICK]

good thing the ps3 has usb ports :P

a external harddrive is epic with a PS3...especially when you constanly want to swap files off your computer + when you start having a lot of games taking up your PS3 HD just put them on the external till u want them....gg

[Zion0153]

I agree.

We also discussed this already. :) How to save your save? (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4237)

Gah, I'm sorry about that... I'm kinda new here, despite my long-time love of anything Atlus. :D



a Lot of PS3 games? What?...

Demon's Souls is the only game I know of....when I played a years worth of games on my 60GB and had to sell it, I transferred all my saves successfully to my Flashstick, and put it on my 120GB, so I don't know what you're talking about? .....

You can't transfer Demon's Souls data to a flash drive, SD card, memory stick, etc. They are permanently locked to the hard drive. System Backup won't do it, either, if you try to restore the data to a different console.

As for the games that have locked saves, here you go:

Bomberman Ultra
Brain Challenge
Crash Commando
Dark Mist
The Eye Of Judgment
Fat Princess
Killzone 2
LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Mega Man 9
Mercenaries 2: World In Flames
Need For Speed: Carbon
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Singstar
Skate 2
Street Fighter IV
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection Online
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
UFC: Undisputed
Wolfenstein

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and Resident Evil 5 were patched to remove the copy protection. I think Demon's Souls needs to get the same treatment. I understand that there's a chance that people will hack their saves, but honestly, it's not worth the trade-off. I can't make myself invest the time in the game without knowing nothing will go wrong in the future. Call me paranoid.

(By the way, I know From Software made the game, but Atlus actually listens to people, unlike 90% of game companies. Just saying. :P)

Also, Zion0153, yes, that should work. I've never done it myself, but it should work as long as the physical console is the same.


Thanks for answering that. I'm gonna upgrade my 60GB (Backwards compatible ftw) PS3 to about a 500GB hard drive, so I wanted to make sure my save would go with it...

[Mounce]

I agree.

We also discussed this already. :) How to save your save? (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4237)

Gah, I'm sorry about that... I'm kinda new here, despite my long-time love of anything Atlus. :D



a Lot of PS3 games? What?...

Demon's Souls is the only game I know of....when I played a years worth of games on my 60GB and had to sell it, I transferred all my saves successfully to my Flashstick, and put it on my 120GB, so I don't know what you're talking about? .....

You can't transfer Demon's Souls data to a flash drive, SD card, memory stick, etc. They are permanently locked to the hard drive. System Backup won't do it, either, if you try to restore the data to a different console.

As for the games that have locked saves, here you go:

Bomberman Ultra
Brain Challenge
Crash Commando
Dark Mist
The Eye Of Judgment
Fat Princess
Killzone 2
LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Mega Man 9
Mercenaries 2: World In Flames
Need For Speed: Carbon
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Singstar
Skate 2
Street Fighter IV
Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection Online
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2
UFC: Undisputed
Wolfenstein

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and Resident Evil 5 were patched to remove the copy protection. I think Demon's Souls needs to get the same treatment. I understand that there's a chance that people will hack their saves, but honestly, it's not worth the trade-off. I can't make myself invest the time in the game without knowing nothing will go wrong in the future. Call me paranoid.

(By the way, I know From Software made the game, but Atlus actually listens to people, unlike 90% of game companies. Just saying. :P)

Also, Zion0153, yes, that should work. I've never done it myself, but it should work as long as the physical console is the same.

Well, makes sense since I don't own or have played any of THOSE games, but yes, I already knew Demon's Souls was locked, but that helps prevents annoying BS of people like, giving out their saves of Maxed-level chars and stuff more-than-likely.

Reduce abusers.

[pedrovay2003]

See, the thing is that saves can be locked to PSN IDs, making it possible to back them up and transfer them to different consoles, but requiring you to have the original PSN ID linked to the save file when you use it. Dead Space and Mirror's Edge did that, and it worked out beautifully.

[Ckarasu]

See, the thing is that saves can be locked to PSN IDs, making it possible to back them up and transfer them to different consoles, but requiring you to have the original PSN ID linked to the save file when you use it. Dead Space and Mirror's Edge did that, and it worked out beautifully.

Hmm. Interesting. I didn't know that.

Also, what are you so paranoid about? PS 3's seem to have a pretty low failure rate, and the chances of you losing your file seem pretty slim. You shouldn't dwell on it too much. Just enjoy the game.

[pedrovay2003]

It's not something I'm really paranoid about per say, but something I like to think about for the future's sake. I like how consoles can last decades if needed, but hard drives are a lot more delicate than other forms of storage. The PS3 does indeed have an extremely low failure rate, but it IS a piece of electronic equipment, and it may have problems later on. It's a long-term thing that bugs me.

Also, I don't like to "stack" consoles, so if the inevitable PS4 plays PS3 games, it would suck to start it all over just because it couldn't be moved from one console to the other (like what happened with ALL original Xbox games when playing them on the 360).

And for the record, trust me, I'm enjoying the game a ton. :D I don't let this fact detract from the experience -- It's just something that's a concern with me when playing a lot of games.