P3(FES/P) Visual Novel

[Zhou]

Here's a question to the Atlus community, would a visual novel (or kinetic novel) based off of Persona 3 FES/P interest you? Why?
Personally i would be... i remember all those times i fell asleep while in Tartarus only to wake up with the grim reaper smiling over me, another hour of grinding and a few floors lost.

Select only two choices please.

Link to P4 thread: http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4345

[Fatney]

Absolutely not. The social link system is pretty much the same as visual novels already (especially in the portable version!), so why would I play the same game just without the action?

[Foobar]

So we'd be calling this Persona 3 NGE (No Gameplay Edition)?

Since I have a hard time phrasing a response to this without it coming off as heckling, I'm just going to settle for "No."

[Nanaya]

I'd play it. Because it would be like a novel, but everything moves. Also because I'm a sucker for great storytelling.

[Enzeru]

Of course. A visual novel retelling...

OK, so not really retelling. But with a S. Link-ish dating sim system, I wouldn't mind.

[Iris]

I already have to fight to stay awake in the daily life half of the game on a replay to begin with, so if you take out the combat, there's nothing left for me. :(

[Enzeru]

I noticed the P4 thread is locked, so I'm gonna say this here:

P4 would be much better, as there could be a lot of detective choices in the story that lead to Game Overs if you get them wrong.

[ichinukechuu]

I wouldn't mind if it's a visual novel, if they replace the fighting sytem with a mini game system then I guess it would work. They already made a Pachinko machine of P3, so why not a visual novel? But come to think of it, that doesn't make it a visual novel if they put mini games in it... Oh well, but for P4, it could work as a CYOA(choose your own adventure) game which sort of plays as a visual novel.

[Zhou]

Yeah... the P4 thread got locked but the story and the way it could be told is different. Regardless I'm personally not too much of a fan of P3's Tartarus or P4's as stated but the story i liked and well if anything it could be passed off as a light novel.

[ichinukechuu]

well if anything it could be passed off as a light novel.

Speaking of light novels, they already made a Persona 3 light novel and a fanbook also. But I can't find much info about the novel though.

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

If it were a supplemental story I would be interested. I love novel games. But if there is no additional story, I have no interest.

[MightySpirit]

It interests me. Mainly because I love P3 so much, I wouldn't mind seeing yet another adaption of it. Plus, this would put more of a focus on the relationships, which I would have loved to see in the game. You can only go so far in the games D: I also wouldn't mind this for P4 as well.

[Eggn0g]

I dont see what could be done in a VN that couldn't be done in the way Persona 3/4 where done.

[Foobar]

I dont see what could be done in a VN that couldn't be done in the way Persona 3/4 were done.

I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm gonna say they want this because they're not really into the RPG side of it, but find talking to anime girls more interesting.

I really hate the term "visual novel." Its like people are trying to make it sound more dignified and sophisticated than it is. You know, like how comic books are "graphic novels." But then, that actually does sound more refined.

These are just a dating sims, though, which are generally a creepy, unfunny derivatives of point-and-click adventure. Other games have tried to intergrate it, but the reason it actually works in Persona is because there's an underlying game mechanic involved and the point doesn't end up finding the ladies in awkward, compromising positions, but instead guiding them in their emotional growth, even if they never realize you've been cheating on them.

Oh and there's other people to help, too, though I don't know why I'd hang out with an elementary school girl or the smarmy student council vice-president. Or that weird foreign kid.

I appreciate the element more in context to the game as a whole, if I just wanted a point-and-click, I'd defer to Phoenix Wright or Tales of Monkey Island .

That last one is not a Namco RPG, by the way. :P

[Enzeru]

Visual Novels aren't dating sims. Dating sims are dating sims.

If "The Letter", one of my favourite VNs, were considered a Dating Sim...I would kill all who called it that. Why? You don't point and click. ALL YOU DO IS CLICK. Click. Click. Click. And read text. Click Click. Read. Click. Read. Occasionally, you may have a choice; does this affect the ending? Maybe, maybe not. However, if The Letter were a dating sim, these would be your options:

Your Past Self
Your Mom
Your Dad

These are the only people in the game. Did I mention there are no character pictures? Most VNs - oh, I'm sorry, dating sims - I've played do not have any - mostly just background images and music. Same with "Collage", another one of my favourites. No character images. Just some RL photos. And guess what you do? Click. Sometimes you make a decision, but this only affects a Game Over you may soon have or not have. Must I list more? Thing is, Visual Novels are NOT Dating Sims. If I refer to a dating sim I will say Dating Sim, such as if I talk about Tokimeki Memorial. When I talk about Visual novels, I will say as such, for example, when I am talking about Planetarian. Visual Novel is NOT a glorified term for dating sim, simply put.

[Foobar]

This all just begs the question of - why not just read books instead? Why ask Atlus to revisit the game for a fourth time when it already accomplishes what it set out to do in its presentation.

The OP states that he's not really interested enough to play the games and would rather have a visual novel, but then the mangas exist to cover the story anyway.

I just don't get why this is wanted. Seems to me the bases have all been covered. Manga, anime follow-up (well, kinda), updated PS2 release, updated PSP version. I don't really think there's much left to dip from the P3 pool here.

[Enzeru]

This all just begs the question of - why not just read books instead? Why ask Atlus to revisit the game for a fourth time when it already accomplishes what it set out to do in its presentation.

The OP states that he's not really interested enough to play the games and would rather have a visual novel, but then the mangas exist to cover the story anyway.

I just don't get why this is wanted. Seems to me the bases have all been covered. Manga, anime follow-up (well, kinda), updated PS2 release, updated PSP version. I don't really think there's much left to dip from the P3 pool here.
Now that this thread contains P4, too, that's the main thing I'm interested in. The whole detective-like aspect of the story combined with the TV world would make a great VN with lots of choices.

[Foobar]

It has a detective angle, but its not like its Ace Attorney Investigations or Hotel Dusk. Just getting past *the critical decision* days to get to the true ending - or at least the first critical day - didn't always line-up. There's three points in the game that can prevent you from seeing the true ending and only one of them really plays the detective angle at all, in which you'll review the facts and so on. The first critical point wasn't even logically constructed, forcing numerous replays through one single day of the game just to get the right outcome or you were defaulted to the abrupt ending of the game.

The second critical point was a good moment for P4, but it was really the only moment of any critical piecing-together of what you had seen over the course of the story. Meanwhile Devil Summoner 2 reviews the case chapter-by-chapter, which brings it closer to a real detective story feel.

I think a good detective kind of story follows the flow of any good criminal investigation show. You investigate, analyze the information regularly, build on that, look for inconsistencies to root out and such.

In that respect, P4 really wouldn't make a good point-and-click. It only goes for that once.

[Enzeru]

True, but, for example, you could have conversations with the shadows from the TV world instead of battling them to set said person free.

[Saburo Hikari]

Although I do love the J-RPG element in Persona 3 and 4, I also would love a Persona 3 and 4 style game without the J-RPG part. It would be a high school simulation. You would raise the social stats (Courage, Diligance, Understanding, Expression, Knowledge, etc.) that would help you in school and with character interaction. You would hang out with friends to become closer to them. If you like a character, you can try dating them. How you perform in school would affect how your friends think about you and how your future will be. Etc.

Of course, a central story alongside the high school simulation would be great too, like how Persona 4 is.

I think the experience of playing the game itself would be the game's reward. Just like how the better visual novels are. Of course, what sort of future you may have in the ending could be one too. I mean, one of my favorite things about Persona 4 are the random hangout scenes.