The SMT: Persona Help Thread

[Juanblue85]

Help your fellow man get unstuck in SMT: Persona.

So this is funny but I can't seem to find the hospital help? : /

[Tsuko]

I cant find any online guides for Revelations Persona listing what options to choose via negotiation for the tarot cards

[DamageCity]

Here is a tip for the Snow Queen route.

Because you can't save in any of the dungeons simply back-up your continue file on a computer. So if you die you don't have to do hours upon hours of game over again, just copy the continue back on to your memory card.

Help your fellow man get unstuck in SMT: Persona.

So this is funny but I can't seem to find the hospital help? : /

Read the instruction manual.

[Juanblue85]

Here is a tip for the Snow Queen route.

Because you can't save in any of the dungeons simply back-up your continue file on a computer. So if you die you don't have to do hours upon hours of game over again, just copy the continue back on to your memory card.

Help your fellow man get unstuck in SMT: Persona.

So this is funny but I can't seem to find the hospital help? : /

Read the instruction manual.

hehehe as you can see I hardly read the intructions manual so I will in this case guess I better start now. For shame :(.

[Gen Eric Gui]

My health and SP seem to regenerate a small amount after battles, is there a specific rate at which they regenerate, or are they refilling at level up and I'm not noticing or something? I skimmed the manual and didn't see anything about this in the battle sections.

[lily]

sp regenerates slowly as you walk in dungeons. hp/sp completely refill whenever you gain levels (both character and persona lvls) i believe.


question: is there a way to cheat at codebreaker so you get first prize? :( how lucky do you have to be...

and also, when you max rank a persona are you supposed to get an item? if so, when? is it supposed to be one of the rewards at the end of the battle you max ranked a persona on? and is it random?

[Iris]

You don't get an item for max ranking a Persona, you get an item for returning a max ranked Persona.

[Kakizaki]

Also when you return a maxed out Persona, the item given is specific to that Persona, not random.

[Tsuko]

I am about to snap this freaking game in half!!!
Its pissing me off so bad

[Gen Eric Gui]

...why?

We can help you if you tell us what's pissing you off.

Edit: If you're talking about Demon conversations, it's mostly common sense. If the demon in timid, try bullying it or appealing to it. If the demon is strange, try having Mark dance. If the demon is old and wise, have Nanjo talk to it. Things like that. Part of the game is experimenting and figuring out how all the different coversation skills work. Also note that most of the time if you find a conversation type that works, you can just keep using it over and over until you've befriended the demon.

[Kakizaki]

I am about to snap this freaking game in half!!!
Its pissing me off so bad

Yes, as Gen asked, why?

You know, in the past you have done an awful lot of talking about the older SMT and SMT related spin offs. The difficulty in this game shouldn't be any type of problem if you have the background and familiarity with the older titles that you have professed you have.

If you're talking about Demon conversations, it's mostly common sense. If the demon in timid, try bullying it or appealing to it. If the demon is strange, try having Mark dance. If the demon is old and wise, have Nanjo talk to it. Things like that.Didn't you once tell me that negotiations in oler SMT titles didn't make sense, and I insisted there where definite correlations or patterns? :P Maybe my memory is incorrect and it wasn't you...

[HIRO]

I am on ng+. I messed up on getting particular persona :[

i'm curious has any had luck successfully contacting every demon so far?

[Kakizaki]

^I don't know when I will get around to finishing the PSP version, but I have had success contacting every demon in the past on the PSX version.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I am about to snap this freaking game in half!!!
Its pissing me off so bad

Yes, as Gen asked, why?

You know, in the past you have done an awful lot of talking about the older SMT and SMT related spin offs. The difficulty in this game shouldn't be any type of problem if you have the background and familiarity with the older titles that you have professed you have.

If you're talking about Demon conversations, it's mostly common sense. If the demon in timid, try bullying it or appealing to it. If the demon is strange, try having Mark dance. If the demon is old and wise, have Nanjo talk to it. Things like that.Didn't you once tell me that negotiations in oler SMT titles didn't make sense, and I insisted there where definite correlations or patterns? :P Maybe my memory is incorrect and it wasn't you...

I said that about Nocturne specifically. The convos in the game felt random as hell. The answers that different demon personalities looked for were different every time you contacted them, or at least it felt like it.

With Persona, I can see the clear correlation between what I'm saying to them and how they're responding, so it's a lot easier to see the connections of how you need to act.

[Kakizaki]

^I'm pretty sure you said that about many titles including and outside of Nocturne (pretty certain it was inclusive of all titles that featured negotiation). Otherwise, I wouldn't have had any reason to bring up my charts for MIP and how moon phases affected the process.

It doesn't matter anyway. That thread was purged long ago - otherwise, I'm fairly certain about the comment and post in question.

[Enzeru]

^Does it really matter? Opinions change.

Anyway, for me, the stupid Bukimi thing is the most annoying monster ever, so I had to get it's card. I recommend you do that if you're in St. Hermelin ???.

[Kakizaki]

Does it really matter? Nope. Not one iota. Although, that could be debatable. People's opinions do change, but it would be nice if said people would keep that in mind before making very absolute comments. ;P

I just get a kick out of people that flip flop without acknowledging it. It really wasn't an attempt to call out Gen. A lot of people have dumped on the negotiation systems of older SMT titles claiming that there was no rhyme or reason to them. It is just kind of funny to see people realize that there indeed is.

[Soushi_Grapple]

So, I'm in the school for the second time, after turning down everyone, about to get Reiji I believe... but I keep getting charmed to death. I guess I need to Negotiate my way through for awhile? Is there any way to block charm?

[Enzeru]

So, I'm in the school for the second time, after turning down everyone, about to get Reiji I believe... but I keep getting charmed to death. I guess I need to Negotiate my way through for awhile? Is there any way to block charm?
That was a problem for a bit. I would just negotiate until you only had to fight the easier enemies. Or try escaping a lot.

[Kakizaki]

I would suggest negotiating over attempting to escape.

[nbinney]

Didn't you once tell me that negotiations in oler SMT titles didn't make sense, and I insisted there where definite correlations or patterns? Maybe my memory is incorrect and it wasn't you...

I've said that specifically about Revelations: The Demon Slayer. Even though it's just a matter of answering yes and no questions, they don't make any sense most of the time.

[nbinney]

I think I found a glitch, but I wasn't going to start a new thread over this.


The clock says I've been playing for about 6 hours, but there's no way that's right. I started my game about 6 hours ago but it's been in stand-by and I've only been playing for about 30 minutes.

[Zacewing]

I think I found a glitch, but I wasn't going to start a new thread over this.


The clock says I've been playing for about 6 hours, but there's no way that's right. I started my game about 6 hours ago but it's been in stand-by and I've only been playing for about 30 minutes.

The playtime still goes while it's in standby. Same with the JPN version.

Also, I just finished the Police Station, and I wanna update my party's equipment and get some new Personae before heading to the Abandoned Factory. Where are the Velvet Room and the equipment shops? In the Mall?

[Karkarov]

Joy Street mall is a good place yes. Rosa Candia (I think thats the spelling) sells armor. I think Peace diner or something equally funny becomes a weapon shop, I dont remember which it was off the top of my head.

[Zacewing]

I went to the Mikage Sun Mall and their was a weapon shop there but it was inaccessible. T_T

Also, is there a way to "Take on" Personas in the middle of a dungeon? Cause most of the of the Personas I fused are a few levels higher than what my characters can use, and once I advance through the Abandoned Factory, I'll probably be able to use them, but backtracking scares me. :(

[Inzaghi]

Also, is there a way to "Take on" Personas in the middle of a dungeon? Cause most of the of the Personas I fused are a few levels higher than what my characters can use, and once I advance through the Abandoned Factory, I'll probably be able to use them, but backtracking scares me. :(

You'll sometimes be able to find a Velvet Room in dungeons, yes.

[Zacewing]

Also, is there a way to "Take on" Personas in the middle of a dungeon? Cause most of the of the Personas I fused are a few levels higher than what my characters can use, and once I advance through the Abandoned Factory, I'll probably be able to use them, but backtracking scares me. :(

You'll sometimes be able to find a Velvet Room in dungeons, yes.

Sweet. :D

[Enzeru]

Kama Palace...Is hard. @.@ Anyone have any suggestions for helpful Personas, preferably no more than level 27?

[nbinney]

are Zombie Girl, Mr. Zombie, etc the same persona?

[Kakizaki]

^Do you mean same demon or do they give the same card. Just a quick note - the enemies you are encountering are demons. You will encounter some demons that can become Persona through card fusion. Not a big deal at all, but getting this straightened out helps cut down on the confusion when asking / answering stuff.

Both of those zombies are in the same family, but they each have their own card.

[Tsuko]

Has Anyone found the Snow Queen Mask yet? if so can you tell where it is located at?

[Enzeru]

Has Anyone found the Snow Queen Mask yet? if so can you tell where it is located at?

To go to the Snow Queen route



Talk to the girl in classroom 2-4.
Talk to Kurourik (黒瓜) in the library on the 3rd floor.
Head to the drama club and talk to the people inside. (Walk through the emergency exit on the 1st floor, pass through the trash burner, and walk along. You'll enter another map. You'll find an indoor gym, walk around the outside of the gym and you'll find some club rooms at the other end. Drama club is among them, but also visit other rooms cause you'll get some equipment).
Head back up to the 3rd floor and talk to the people in the student council.
Go downstairs to the 1st floor and talk to the principal in the principal room.
Now go back to the indoor gym, get into the gym and go through the door next to the stage. You'll enter a small storage room. Take the item Snow Queen Mask (雪の女王の仮面)



From the Persona 1 Wiki.

[Iris]

Kama Palace...Is hard. @.@ Anyone have any suggestions for helpful Personas, preferably no more than level 27?

Phaleg, Phaleg, Phaleg. And Gozu-Tennou. Both are level 18. Phaleg is immune to all magic but dark and has Mediarama. Gozu-Tennou has Megidola once you finish ranking him up.

You can pretty much walk over anything for most of the game this way, and for those few things you can't, there's always negotiation.

[Enzeru]

Kama Palace...Is hard. @.@ Anyone have any suggestions for helpful Personas, preferably no more than level 27?

Phaleg, Phaleg, Phaleg. And Gozu-Tennou. Both are level 18. Phaleg is immune to all magic but dark and has Mediarama. Gozu-Tennou has Megidola once you finish ranking him up.

You can pretty much walk over anything for most of the game this way, and for those few things you can't, there's always negotiation.
Mediarama?! That's a big improvement over my current Dia. xD Do you know what you need to fuse them? If not, that's fine. I'll try to figure them out.

[Tsuko]

Has Anyone found the Snow Queen Mask yet? if so can you tell where it is located at?

To go to the Snow Queen route



Talk to the girl in classroom 2-4.
Talk to Kurourik (黒瓜) in the library on the 3rd floor.
Head to the drama club and talk to the people inside. (Walk through the emergency exit on the 1st floor, pass through the trash burner, and walk along. You'll enter another map. You'll find an indoor gym, walk around the outside of the gym and you'll find some club rooms at the other end. Drama club is among them, but also visit other rooms cause you'll get some equipment).
Head back up to the 3rd floor and talk to the people in the student council.
Go downstairs to the 1st floor and talk to the principal in the principal room.
Now go back to the indoor gym, get into the gym and go through the door next to the stage. You'll enter a small storage room. Take the item Snow Queen Mask (雪の女王の仮面)



From the Persona 1 Wiki.

When do i do all this? i think i have progressed too far into the game,
Do i do all that before entering the Abandoned Factory and going after Kandori?

[Enzeru]

When do i do all this? i think i have progressed too far into the game,
Do i do all that before entering the Abandoned Factory and going after Kandori?
If you've gone through the hole in the furnace, you're on the SEBEC path.

[Tsuko]

hole in the furnace? 0.o

[Enzeru]

Of the school. It leads to SEBEC.

On another note, I can't beat the Harem Queen. Eventually, she uses Dia every turn, which healls about 100 damage, and I can only do around 70 each turn.

[Tsuko]

the only hole i found is the one you pass through when you go to save Mark and Brown from the Police Station,

Maybe level up some more? i havent had trouble with any bosses up that point

[Kakizaki]

^That is the hole he is referring to. You have gone too far to activate the SQQ.

[Tsuko]

i see, so you gotta make the choice right from the start of the game then ><
guess i gotta start over then
I'll just beat the Sebec path on Revelations Persona
it would be easier with the boosted exp and easier random battles

[Kakizaki]

Pretty much.

[Tsuko]

thanks for the help Enzeru and Kakizaki, lucky i made a save right before i went to the hospital in the beginning

[Soushi_Grapple]

Tsuko, if you haven't played the game before most people reccomend doing a SEBEC path (usually with Reiji if you want more plot) and then doing the SQQ on your second playthrough since it has kind of a "side story" sort of thing; at least that's the impression I've been getting. Also the difficulty is much worse.

[Tsuko]

One thing im surprised of is there isnt a option to buy back persona or demons like there is in P3 P4 and Nocturne
i have played the game before Soushi

also I have just been doing auto battle and letting the game play itself unless i need to heal

[Kakizaki]

^For someone that has played the game before I am surprised that you where surprised that you can't buy back demons...and about the amount of trouble the game is presenting you.

You have to play through the game twice anyway to go through both routes. You might as well finish the SEBEC path, learn how to negotiate with demons better, and parlay that experience into a second play through on the SQQ path. I have a feeling that doing it now will frustrate you to no end.

[Tsuko]

^For someone that has played the game before I am surprised that you where surprised that you can't buy back demons...and about the amount of trouble the game is presenting you.

You have to play through the game twice anyway to go through both routes. You might as well finish the SEBEC path, learn how to negotiate with demons better, and parlay that experience into a second play through on the SQQ path. I have a feeling that doing it now will frustrate you to no end.

Revelations Persona was much easier then Persona PSP, im not really having trouble with the negotiating i just dont like to grind exp

I like the Shin Megami Tensei games but i also like rpgs i can just breeze through in less then a week

[Enzeru]

Buying back Spell Cards wouldn't really be useful anyway, IMO. In this game, it's easy to get the one you want.

[Tsuko]

edit - please knock that off - Kakizaki

[Kakizaki]

^For someone that has played the game before I am surprised that you where surprised that you can't buy back demons...and about the amount of trouble the game is presenting you.

You have to play through the game twice anyway to go through both routes. You might as well finish the SEBEC path, learn how to negotiate with demons better, and parlay that experience into a second play through on the SQQ path. I have a feeling that doing it now will frustrate you to no end.

Revelations Persona was much easier then Persona PSP, im not really having trouble with the negotiating i just dont like to grind exp

I like the Shin Megami Tensei games but i also like rpgs i can just breeze through in less then a week

The difficulty level isn't that much higher, and if it is giving you that much more trouble, the SQQ isn't for you right now.

As far as negotiating, you had already stated in other posts that you were having problems earlier. Please quit contradicting yourself. You mentioned that you wanted the strategy guide in order to know who to use when...

Well since this is a SMT spin off, I guess it shouldn't fit into the 'other rpg to breeze through in a week' category now should it?

[Tsuko]

No i guess not

[Soushi_Grapple]

Yeah, I tried to use the Auto Battle feature for awhile when I was getting used to the game and got my butt kicked. lol Unless you're really prepared, its best to pay attention when playing a Megaten game. =D <-- Not directed at you, btw, Tsuko, just stating.

[Foobar]

Is there some kind of EXP bonus given to characters that are more successful with negotiations than others? I'm just noticing Nanjo is getting more out of general fights than the others are getting, even without negotiations.

[Kakizaki]

^No, but are you currently relying more heavily on his attacks or buffs right now? The experience system is weighted -- judging who does what most effectively (sorry, I don't know the calculation for this).

[Foobar]

Right now its more buffs and AoE attacks with him, yeah. So whoever does more, gets more then.

Would it kill Maki to learn Media or Mediarama, then? Grrrr. I guess I'll see what the new personas bring her.

[Kakizaki]

^Yeah, the system does have its benefits, but it definitely can be frustrating if you have someone equipped with a Persona that is slow to get going in its early stages (or just plain sucks).

[Tsuko]

Mediarama?! That's a big improvement over my current Dia. xD Do you know what you need to fuse them? If not, that's fine. I'll try to figure them out.

Persona seem to gain new skills when they rank up so one of the ones you have might get it without the need to fuse new ones trying to obtain that skill

[Kakizaki]

^You see a list of those skills before right before finalizing the fusion in the Velvet Room. So for the most part, you know what you are going to get.

The skills at level up aren't random.

[nbinney]

Both of those zombies are in the same family, but they each have their own card.

Ok, that's what I meant. Thanks!

[Kakizaki]

^That's what I thought. ;)

[Enzeru]

Yeah, I tried to use the Auto Battle feature for awhile when I was getting used to the game and got my butt kicked. lol Unless you're really prepared, its best to pay attention when playing a Megaten game. =D <-- Not directed at you, btw, Tsuko, just stating.I'm about 13 hours in and pretty much every fight has been Auto>Weapons, save for bosses which have been Auto>Replay. So I guess it gets easier if you have good weapons, lol.

[Iris]

Mediarama?! That's a big improvement over my current Dia. xD Do you know what you need to fuse them? If not, that's fine. I'll try to figure them out.

Persona seem to gain new skills when they rank up so one of the ones you have might get it without the need to fuse new ones trying to obtain that skill

Kaki already corrected you re: fusing, so I'mma just add that there are other reasons I recommended Phaleg than to get Mediarama. His resistances are fantastic.

[HaDodges]

So, a question not really related to the post, but I couldn't start a new one. Is anyone else having issues with demons who's Analyze screen says they are weak to something not actually being weak to it? I've come across a few that don't react to their weakness. Blast 'em with guns and only Nate's (Nanjino?) will be registered as a "weak" hit. It's very weird. Without this aspect of the game working, I just feel like I'm playing any other RPG.

[Zacewing]

Did anyone else have trouble with those stupid toilet monsters in St. Hermelin? They keep either using Mudoon to kill off my party or they use Last Resort.

[Karkarov]

The farther you get in the game the more "annoying" demons you run into. You just need to develop strategies to either avoid their encounters or kill them before they can act. However yeah, they can be a real pain. Nothing is more embarrassing either than seeing your party get wiped by a toilet, not that wiping out a toilet is all that fun either.

cwutIdidthar?

[Inzaghi]

Did anyone else have trouble with those stupid toilet monsters in St. Hermelin? They keep either using Mudoon to kill off my party or they use Last Resort.

I recommend you get the Bukimi's spell card as soon as you can and flash it at them every opportunity thereafter to instantly remove them from the battle.

[Zacewing]

I lol'd.

Yeah whenever I get into a battle with the toilets I just spam the protagonist's Sing contact to make them happy, which works. :D

EDIT: Is this a good Persona setup for each of my parfty members?

Main - Phaleg, Seimen Kongou, Airgetlam
Maki - Jack Frost, Pyro Jack, Maso
Nanjo - Aizen Myouou, Urvashi, Quezalcoatl
Mark - Triglav, Sati, Ogun
Reiji - Bres, Lilim, Fuutai

[HaDodges]

Really? We're just going to breeze right past my general inquiry? Excellent.

[Foobar]

Might be your stats are too low and you're seeing some resistance on exploiting weaknesses. I believe magic is the only way to hit a weakness 100% of the time. I don't think Persona is a streamlined as the press-turn systems you might be used to.

As far as guns go, though, if it has wings, shoot it.

Also, when an enemy puts up Tetraja, unless they can null gunfire, gunfire is going to bypass that buff, but physical blows will have a chance at being reflected.

[Zacewing]

I always found it weird that whenever an enemy is weak to Guns, only the protagonist's gun actually hits their weakness. >_>

And sometimes I'll use a spell on an enemy and it'll hit their weakness when that particular element isn't in their list of Weaknesses. For instance, Bird-like enemies are supposedly only weak to Whip and Gun, but when I use a Gravity spell, it hits their weakness.

[Enzeru]

As far as guns go, though, if it has wings, shoot it.
Except when they're angels. xD Angels are always weak to Physica, I noticed. @_@

Anyone finish the game yet? I'm about 15 hours in (Just finished Mana Castle) and it seems like it's about to end. Could surprise me, though.

[Zacewing]

So I still need advice on a good Persona set up for my group? I made some adjustments, but I dunno. I feel as if my Personae suck. :(

Main - Phaleg, Triglav, Airgetlam
Maki - Jack Frost, Janus, Maso
Nanjo - Aizen Myouou, Urvashi, Quezalcoatl
Mark - Sati, Ogun, Shouki
Reiji - Bres, Lilim, Fuutai

Also, I was reading a guide of the PS1 version so I can find out where the Expel Mirror is, and it mentioned a Persona named Vortek (Chariot arcana) that's supposedly really good so I wanna know what it's original name is and what Spell Cards I need to fuse it.

And I finished the St. Hermelin dungeon and I STILL don't have access to a shop that sells melee weapons?

[Inzaghi]

Also, I was reading a guide of the PS1 version so I can find out where the Expel Mirror is, and it mentioned a Persona named Vortek (Chariot arcana) that's supposedly really good so I wanna know what it's original name is and what Spell Cards I need to fuse it.

"Vortek"'s original name is Gozu-Tennoh. There are too many spell card combinations to list for him, just look up which two Orders make a Chariot Persona in the manual.

And I finished the St. Hermelin dungeon and I STILL don't have access to a shop that sells melee weapons?

No shops ever sell melee weapons except for the casino. You'll mainly get new ones either from enemy drops or by deleting max-rank Personas.

[Chidori]

I'm stuck on the SEBEC building dungeon...I can't seem to find the first boss, and I've been wandering around for ages :question:
I heard that you were supposed to go up the elevator to the fifth floor, go down the stairs to the fourth, and then find some stairs leading to where the boss is? The problems is that I can't seem to find those stairs on the fourth floor. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.:(

[Zacewing]

I'm stuck on the SEBEC building dungeon...I can't seem to find the first boss, and I've been wandering around for ages :question:
I heard that you were supposed to go up the elevator to the fifth floor, go down the stairs to the fourth, and then find some stairs leading to where the boss is? The problems is that I can't seem to find those stairs on the fourth floor. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.:(

You have to take the stairs to the FIRST floor, and then there's a staircase that will take you to Kandori's office.

[Tsuko]

please post a link to the persona1 wiki you mentioned

[Foobar]

I'm stuck on the SEBEC building dungeon...I can't seem to find the first boss, and I've been wandering around for ages :question:
I heard that you were supposed to go up the elevator to the fifth floor, go down the stairs to the fourth, and then find some stairs leading to where the boss is? The problems is that I can't seem to find those stairs on the fourth floor. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.:(

You have to take the stairs to the FIRST floor, and then there's a staircase that will take you to Kandori's office.

Yeah I pretty much knew the instant I was allowed to go to the 5th floor right away that that would be to easy. You have to go all the way up, so you can go all the way down to special series of staircases that take you to a sectioned off portion of the 5th.

Sneaky.

Right now I'm in the "***** took my materia" section of the game. Not that my inventory got ganked, I've just trapped myself in some kind of detour to the next objective.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Im in the place with the Harem Queen (sorry if its spoilers, I dont know how to block it out) and I just finsihed going through the dungeon once only to have her send me back down and now I can't find my way up again! I hate this place. Does anyone have a large scale map?

[Enzeru]

Im in the place with the Harem Queen (sorry if its spoilers, I dont know how to block it out) and I just finsihed going through the dungeon once only to have her send me back down and now I can't find my way up again! I hate this place. Does anyone have a large scale map?
B1 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma01.jpg)
B2 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma02.jpg)
B4 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma04.jpg)
B5 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma05.jpg)
B6 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma06.jpg)
B7 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma07.jpg)
B8 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma08.jpg)
B9 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma09.jpg)
B10 (http://persona.game-cmr.com/data/map/image/root/karma10.jpg)

[Chidori]

I'm stuck on the SEBEC building dungeon...I can't seem to find the first boss, and I've been wandering around for ages :question:
I heard that you were supposed to go up the elevator to the fifth floor, go down the stairs to the fourth, and then find some stairs leading to where the boss is? The problems is that I can't seem to find those stairs on the fourth floor. If anyone could help, it would be appreciated.:(

You have to take the stairs to the FIRST floor, and then there's a staircase that will take you to Kandori's office.

Thanks a lot for the help! :)
Also, (sorry for being such a nub) are we supposed to visit Chisato (Harem Queen) again after she sends us back up into the market place? Or what am I supposed to do after she sends me back?

[Enzeru]

Thanks a lot for the help! :)
Also, (sorry for being such a nub) are we supposed to visit Chisato (Harem Queen) again after she sends us back up into the market place? Or what am I supposed to do after she sends me back?
Yeah, just go back to advance the story.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Thanks, Enzeru, hopefully that will help me >< Kinda wierd that there isn't a 3rd floor???

[Enzeru]

Thanks, Enzeru, hopefully that will help me >< Kinda wierd that there isn't a 3rd floor???
On the Elevator on floor 2 you go to the 4th floor.

[Chidori]

Thanks a lot for the help! :)
Also, (sorry for being such a nub) are we supposed to visit Chisato (Harem Queen) again after she sends us back up into the market place? Or what am I supposed to do after she sends me back?
Yeah, just go back to advance the story.

Thanks :)
Does anyone know what's the correct combination of choices to say to Mai?
EDIT: Okay nvm, I found the answer: "Stop hiding" "For everybody" "To find a reason"

[Zachalmighty]

I just went through the dimensional gate after finding Maki's mom as a giant demon and deciding not to kill her. I'm currently going through what was the SEBEC building and I've come to a floor puzzle.

Problem is, I've gotten all the tiles to deactivate and tried to open the door and it won't open. I also tried activating every tile and that didn't work either. What's the trick to opening the door?

[PFV]

@Zachalmighty:
Check the ceiling

[Zachalmighty]

@Zachalmighty:
Check the ceiling

Of the door?

[PFV]

Of the door?
No, each tile. You have to match up the pattern on the ceiling with the floor. It's been a long time since I've actually been through that area, but I'm pretty sure it makes a cross.

[Tsuko]

Thanks, Enzeru, hopefully that will help me >< Kinda wierd that there isn't a 3rd floor???

Sebec forgot to build a third floor between the second and fourth floors lol

[kyofanatic1]

I'm having trouble at the factory/sebec place. I beat the guy on the top floor and the other one got away so I have no idea what to do know? Can some one help me?

[Tsuko]

Examine the desk and a secret door opens

[Enzeru]

Of the door?
No, each tile. You have to match up the pattern on the ceiling with the floor. It's been a long time since I've actually been through that area, but I'm pretty sure it makes a cross.
That's not how I got it, lol. I was about to post this here when I thought:

Persona...Religion...Hmm...

[Kid Marin]

Wow, the difficulty ramps up at the cave under the shrine. :0 Before that, expert mode has been very forgiving.

[Tsuko]

http://persona1.wikidot.com/
Someone keeps deleting everything on this page and leaves a ridiculous message on it

[Xs1nX]

Persona newbie here(but not an RPG newbie)

Anyone care to tell me what build options are viable for stat distribution on level up ?, or at least some idea of the importance/priority of each stat so i can better work out where to put the 3 points each level up ?

[MomoChan]

It's different for everybody, but I mainly dote on Agility and Technique.

Strength is not too big a factor early on since most weapons and physical skills deal poor damage. You need good hit rates and decent magic damage to win in most fights.

Vitality is good every once in a while to increase defense and HP, and Luck should be saved for last, since it only helps with criticals and item drops.

[Zacewing]

It's different for everybody, but I mainly dote on Agility and Technique.

Strength is not too big a factor early on since most weapons and physical skills deal poor damage. You need good hit rates and decent magic damage to win in most fights.

Vitality is good every once in a while to increase defense and HP, and Luck should be saved for last, since it only helps with criticals and item drops.

There is no Technique stat, and Vitality doesn't increase HP, only Defense.

I try to spead out my points, but I focus on Dx because Guns are so ridiculously broken.

[Kakizaki]

^Tech is now dex. In the original U.S. version is was called tech.

Anyway, I typically pump 2 out of every 3 points into tech/dex and then alternate between agility and luck.

[MomoChan]

Eh, didn't notice. Too busy taking in the polished sights.

Regardless, that's still how I disperse stats.

[Zacewing]

^Tech is now dex. In the original U.S. version is was called tech.

Anyway, I typically pump 2 out of every 3 points into tech/dex and then alternate between agility and luck.

Oooh, I get it now. I thought she was thinking of the Tech stat in Persona 2.

Also, I believe I'm about to go to the final dungeon. I don't think I'm underleveled but I thought I'd check to see if my levels and Persona setup are any good.

Protagonist Lv 50 (Marduk, Yatagarasu, Macha)
Maki Lv 50 (Morrigan, Urvashi, Tensen Nyannyan)
Nanjo Lv 49 (Azrael, Vidofnir, Take-Mikazuchi)
Mark Lv 47 (Seiten Taisei, Hermod, Brigid)
Reiji Lv 50 (Illuyanka, Ankou, Anubis)

[Enzeru]

^That seems fine to me. There's no real need to grind unless you want to.

Anyone else pump all 3 points into Dexterity and when that was maximized, pump into Agility? xD

[CoarseDragon]

Anyone else pump all 3 points into Dexterity and when that was maximized, pump into Agility? xD

I went for Agility. I could be wrong but it seemed to pump more stats per increase. It also helps you to go first during battles.

[Zacewing]

So it turns out I wasn't quite at the final dungeon yet. I just finished the Alaya Cavern, and I got the items needed to fuse the ultimate Personas (I believe I got the 5 for all of my party members), but I dunno how to fuse them.

Do you just have to select a Persona of the same arcana during fusion and add the items that were given to you by, uh...you?

I managed to fuse Amen Ra and Susano-o, but I tried to make Reiji's ultimate Persona by selecting Loki (Devil arcana) during fusion but I cycled through all of my "Make special Persona" items and none of them changed Loki into a different Persona except the Fomor Lineage which would've changed it into Bres. >_>

EDIT: Figured it out, but is there a Velvet Room in the final dungeon?

[MomoChan]

is there a Velvet Room in the final dungeon?

There is.

Like you, I was worried that I'd have to backtrack if I wanted to make Personae. But it wasn't necessary after all.

[Zacewing]

is there a Velvet Room in the final dungeon?

There is.

Like you, I was worried that I'd have to backtrack if I wanted to make Personae. But it wasn't necessary after all.

Thank god. Cause I still need to fuse Mot for Reiji, and I'm gonna be doing big grindan in the final dungeon so I can use everyone's ultimate Personas.

EDIT: Just beat the game. I enjoyed the ending. Not too lengthy, but it wraps things up nicely. The final boss was pretty easy. I had a hard time with the 2nd form at first but then I remembered Nanjo had Makarakarn so I started spamming that and I was pretty much untouchable. And I max ranked Amen Ra midfight, so I started spamming Heiroglyphen for uber damage. Gonna start my SQQ playthrough now. :3

[Zacewing]

So I'm at Hypnos Tower on my SQQ playthrough. I died the first time on the 8th floor so I had to do it all over again. :(

So because I don't want to go through the dungeon a 3rd time, what level should I be before I fight the boss? These are my levels now...

Protagonist Lv 19
Yukino Lv 19
Ayase Lv 18
Elly Lv 19
Brown Lv 18

I was thinking about grinding everyone up another level or two, but I figured I'd ask here incase that's not enough.

EDIT: Oh crap, double post. D:

[mas27]

I'm close to the end of the game (haunted mansion) and I'm going for the good ending however I have no idea how I get the Ultimate Persona's when I get the totems.What do I do with them? (I know I'll need to fuse but with what exactly? BTW I'm pretty new to this,also please try to keep the spoilers to a minimum if you have to say any to explain it clearly.)

NOTE:I just realized I necroed,I'm sorry I needed help and I didn't realize.

[Eldorado112]

I dont think I have it in me to play this game for a second game. I mean yeah its fun but im just not used to the old school battle system. If atlus releases a portable version of persona 2 they should change it like p3 and p4

[Iris]

If atlus releases a portable version of persona 2 they should change it like p3 and p4

Because Persona 2's battle system is just like Persona 1's and everythi---oh, wait.

And really, I don't find the battle systems to be that interchangeable. P2's system is designed around a fully customizable party, where you can change everyone's equipped Personae; the Persona roster is also written with that in mind -- every Persona has a lower number of overall spells to learn, and they're much more likely to be built around a single function in battle, as opposed to P3/4 where a lot of Personae are built to be multitaskers. Changing one aspect of that would do weird things to how the game is balanced, unless you did a complete overhaul of everything. Which...no thanks.

[Eldorado112]

If atlus releases a portable version of persona 2 they should change it like p3 and p4

Because Persona 2's battle system is just like Persona 1's and everythi---oh, wait.

And really, I don't find the battle systems to be that interchangeable. P2's system is designed around a fully customizable party, where you can change everyone's equipped Personae; the Persona roster is also written with that in mind -- every Persona has a lower number of overall spells to learn, and they're much more likely to be built around a single function in battle, as opposed to P3/4 where a lot of Personae are built to be multitaskers. Changing one aspect of that would do weird things to how the game is balanced, unless you did a complete overhaul of everything. Which...no thanks.
yeah well p2 battle system sucked lol And yeah i like multitasking its funner to me than just having a specific purpose but i dunno everyone plays different

[Iris]

yeah well p2 battle system sucked lol

Well, you know what they say about opinions being like assholes.....

I love the P2 system because if you want to play effectively, you have to consider how your equipped Personae function as a unit, not just how they perform individually. (...okay, I also love it because I like to carefully abuse the minor arcana mutations and Emperor/World arcana during level-ups and turn Katsuya into a magical nuke dispenser, but that's beside the point.)

The thing about multitaskers versus more strictly defined purpose, though, I don't bring up as a matter of what you like better so much as I bring it up as an example of the game being balanced completely differently, and it's something where you change one thing, and you have to change everything else to make it work properly. At that point, why not just sink all that into a brand new game? There's no need to mess with something that works. (And frankly, while I've heard a lot of people complain about P2's battle system being weird/stupid/not working right in the past, at least half of these people didn't know how to use it. Of course they didn't like it, if they weren't going to bother to learn how it works!)

[Chromanin]

I just beat the SEBEC route, and I'm thinking of going for the Snow Queen next. Does anybody reccomend certain characters to pick? I'm pretty set on Nanjo since he served me well in the SEBEC route and Elly simply because I hate Brown. Are any of them better suited for SQQ or does it not really matter?