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Nephlabobo
09-03-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm stuck on day...3 I think where you go to the cemetery for the first time and fight Beldr
Can't beat him.
I grind and grind and grind and fuse and fuse and fuse.
I'm getting paltry amounts of experience from the one open battle available to me and I'm just repeatedly getting killed during the boss battle.
What can I do?
I'm pretty much ready to give up because I have been stuck on it for over a week.
ShadowYuri
09-04-2009, 02:40 AM
First, only the Protagonist can damage him. (choose the Attack command, which becomes Devil's Fuge for the fight)
So, I recommend using skills like Aggravate (Racial Skill) to have a guaranteed critical (there is another demon who can do that effect while in combat mode, but this is a high-level one, so I don't know if you can fusion him or not). Also, spend your level ups boosting your strenght.
This fight isn't very "fair", because if you take too long to defeat the boss (and with ONE character, it can take a bit of time), he calls his demons again...
But honestly, you can win this. Cheer up! You have to survive! :)
Gen Eric Gui
09-04-2009, 03:48 AM
Get a Kishin Ubelluris and put him in the MC's team so you can attack twice a round. If you can, give the MC Resist Fire. Spam Devil's Fuge (I'm pretty sure that STR does not affect the damage done by this attack, because I had different STR scores in the couple of times I've fought the battle, but I alwasy did the same damage to Beldr regardless).
Everyone else should focus on keeping MC healthy, and should do the best they can in fending off the second wave of demons that appears. They just need to keep them away from Beldr so they can't heal him. Once he can no longer heal himself, the fight is easy.
Nephlabobo
09-04-2009, 10:00 AM
It doesn't matter who I add because I just keep getting turned to stone and killed every goddamn battle! :(
Ephidel
09-04-2009, 10:34 AM
If you have Anti-Mystic that has some ailment defense built in and could help against petrification if equipped. I can't recall if its available at that stage in the game though :|
I do second having a Kishin though (although the one I fused for the fight was the next one up from Ubelluris, Nalagiri). Being able to attack twice makes the fight much more doable.
I can't say much about a 'second' demon for the party though, as I kept switching in and out (one for speed to get near him in the first place, one for healing, one to use when whatever demon I had there before died horribly or ran out of mana :P)
I recall trying to use the other characters as a barrier to keep the other demons away from him too, so that they wouldn't keep healing him.
Nephlabobo
09-04-2009, 12:13 PM
I have been stuck for over a week now, with absolutely no progress whatsoever no matter how much I try and level up and no matter what demons I fuse.
#### you Atlus. This game sucks ass.
I'm done with it.
Most disappointing Atlus game ever.
Rednusander
09-04-2009, 12:55 PM
^ Tone it down, buddy. You don't have to like everything we produce, but remember who's forums you're on. That kind of language directed at us or anyone on the forums is unacceptable.
Kenji
09-04-2009, 01:45 PM
I did my first attempt on this battle, last night. I had it under control through the first wave and until Beldr was in the red, but then I lost control. It was a combination of Vampire Mist, a few Charms and Medias, and my main character getting petrified.
But, hey, difficulty's one of the many reasons I buy MegaTen. :) I'll kill him next time, and a lot of these tips are very helpful.
I'll keep my opening game the same, with my three party members taking down the first wave of demons while Masaru (my protag) stays fresh and approaches the boss. Except, instead of Silky and Kikuri-Hime, I'll have Nalagiri and Mezuki, thanks to the suggestions here.
With Aggravate and Double Up, I'll finish the fight.
Gen Eric Gui
09-04-2009, 05:32 PM
I have been stuck for over a week now, with absolutely no progress whatsoever no matter how much I try and level up and no matter what demons I fuse.
#### you Atlus. This game sucks ass.
I'm done with it.
Most disappointing Atlus game ever.
Look, we've told you exactly how to beat the boss. He is not that difficult.
Beldr only takes damage from the Devil's Fuge, which only your main character has. Thus, you need to maximize the amount of attacking time that the MC gets, and nobody else on the team matters for squat. Every single time you hit with the Devil's Fuge, it's a "weakness" hit that cancels Beldr's extra turns and gives you an extra one. With a Kishin that's 4 attacks possible per round, and Beldr will focus on attacking only the MC unless somebody else is the only character in range.
If he keeps petrifying you, equip a skill that prevents Petrification, or equip your other teams with the skill that removes status ailments(I want to say it's Amrita), which you shold have in your cracked skill list as well as on several healing demons at that point.
With a Kishin to give you double turns and either a healing demon to keep your HP up or some other kind of booster demon to augment your ability to use the Devil's Fuge (I hear that demons with Aggrivate help deal more damage), there should be absolutely no issue in beating Beldr.
Instead of just proclaiming the game is broken because your strategy isn't working, try refining the strategy and making it work another way. That's the entire point of a "strategy RPG" isn't it? The game obviously isn't broken, because everybody else has been able to beat the boss. I think the big problem here is that you seem to think that levelling up is going to solve your problem, when that NEVER helps in Megaten games. Levelling up isn't going to get you jack squat in this game, you need to learn how to play the system and how to utilize the abilities of your demons and your team to make the sitations work.
You can do it. I know you can. You just need to stop stubbornly looking at this as a "levelling problem" and start looking at it as a "planning problem". The very fact that you beat Wendigo on the first day provbes that you know how to use this concept, so I know you can do it again.
Nephlabobo
09-04-2009, 07:08 PM
Screw it, I've already started Phoenix Wright 2.
Kenji
09-04-2009, 09:14 PM
He is not that difficult.
Truer words were never spoken. With Double Up and Aggravate, Beldr was dead in two rounds of attack (six attacks; I missed once). His second wave never even got to move.
Well... off to meet the gigolo of Kannagi-cho.
Thray-Sama
09-19-2009, 02:31 AM
[Sorry to hijack this thread but I've not made enough posts to start a new one! *angry*]
What's the best path to follow if I want to get Midori as a playable character? I bought the game yesterday on import and it's seriously addictive even though I'm only on day one trying to find the secret exit in the Yamanote Line area!
Foobar
09-19-2009, 05:47 AM
There's not really a specific path to getting Midori, just follow goings-on with her and Keisuke and you'll get her on your team.
Though she's really not that useful. Her stats fall into the mage side of things.
Thray-Sama
09-19-2009, 05:56 AM
Thanks for the advice, Foobar... I'll try that out...
Do you have any further advice on how to play the game? I've kind of gotten used to using the demon spells against the other demons by utilising weaknesses in battle but I'm not finding it easy to defeat all of them.
Are Free Battles the type of battles that you can flee from and automatically get healed up then fight and flee again and again until your characters are of a suitable level to beat them in one go.
Foobar
09-19-2009, 06:14 AM
You can flee to your hearts content in Free Battles, just not story or boss battles.
Just keep in mind, unlike our OP here, that the traits you give your characters and demons will also go a long way in helping you defeat bosses. Shin Megami Tensei games tend to go against the "outlevel the boss" RPG approach, adhere to it and you'll be destroyed in the bigger battles.
As far as traits go, most of the physical attack ones seem to be derived from Strength and Agility stats, so if you want physical attacks for your hero, you may wish to apply his points toward those stats so you can gain access to physical traits and skills.
Use free battles to crack as many skills as possible, even if you can use the ability yet, you can still crack it for later use. Don't fret if you miss a crack skill in boss or story fights, though, in general you'll get a chance to get them again. Auto Skills are the trickiest ones to collect, so don't feel bad if you don't get too many.
Also, Pierce and Holy Dance are awesome, so its Blitzkrieg, Dual Shadow and any magic/MP/physical boosting ability/trait. Outfit characters with high magic skill with a variety of spells and support abilities, but be sure to team them up with Demons that have physical skills or a mix of magic and physical, just to offset any potential weaknesses in a team. Vice versa for your more physcially built humans, team them up with some magical demons with a physical skill.
dungeon_man
09-19-2009, 06:42 AM
I have been stuck for over a week now, with absolutely no progress whatsoever no matter how much I try and level up and no matter what demons I fuse.
#### you Atlus. This game sucks ass.
I'm done with it.
Most disappointing Atlus game ever.
They say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is a sign of insanity. If you are getting turned to stone over and over, try some different tactics. Bring the Amrita and Anti-Mystic skills, make killing the basilisks a priority, etc. If you lack the skills and demons to handle that battle, do the free battle to crack some skills, earn some exp, and buy/fuse demons who are better suited to the task at hand.
Either way, don't blame Atlus for your lack of ability. Everybody wants a scapegoat these days.
boryumugo
09-21-2009, 03:08 PM
Dont give up!
Tips:
-Switch trick: give yuzu a demon that can switch, when she is done moving, switch her and MC. This will quicken things up a bit.
-surround MC with your other characters, they can be a sacrifise if it mean something can be defeated
-Free battles, like someone mentioned, free battles are the best way to get macca and exp during the earlier stages of the game. At day 4 or 5, you should already be grinding because the bosses are too hard for a team that only plays boss battles.
-Fusing demons that you leveled up, sometimes, when you fuse those demons, it gives the product more bonus stats in fields than if you were to fuse 2 demons that just just brought.
*I give credit for all those who had said something like this before I did.
Thray-Sama
09-22-2009, 01:25 AM
I've just gotten to the battle where I have to rescue Haru and I can't get to her because my characters aren't moving fast enough even though my hero and the hacker dude already have the demons who can teleport in their parties...
What should I do to improve my chances of success?
Also, does anyone have any advice on fusions?
dungeon_man
09-22-2009, 04:04 AM
Get one with Devil Speed?
Give one person a Demon with Flight or Devil Speed and Demon with Animal Leg, so you can move, attack, and move again. You can go really far like that.
Haru can take a couple hits, but bringing a long-range healer (Fairy or Femme families) helps out when you get close but can't quite reach her.
Gen Eric Gui
09-22-2009, 05:06 AM
Megami family demons have even longer range healing.
Also, Switch helps a lot, so bring an Avatar. Since most of the enemies will gravitate towards Haru, have one team with Devil Speed and Switch approach really fast and then switch places so that Haru is in the middle of your own pack of characters.
You can flee to your hearts content in Free Battles, just not story or boss battles.
Just keep in mind, unlike our OP here, that the traits you give your characters and demons will also go a long way in helping you defeat bosses. Shin Megami Tensei games tend to go against the "outlevel the boss" RPG approach, adhere to it and you'll be destroyed in the bigger battles.
As far as traits go, most of the physical attack ones seem to be derived from Strength and Agility stats, so if you want physical attacks for your hero, you may wish to apply his points toward those stats so you can gain access to physical traits and skills.
Use free battles to crack as many skills as possible, even if you can use the ability yet, you can still crack it for later use. Don't fret if you miss a crack skill in boss or story fights, though, in general you'll get a chance to get them again. Auto Skills are the trickiest ones to collect, so don't feel bad if you don't get too many.
Also, Pierce and Holy Dance are awesome, so its Blitzkrieg, Dual Shadow and any magic/MP/physical boosting ability/trait. Outfit characters with high magic skill with a variety of spells and support abilities, but be sure to team them up with Demons that have physical skills or a mix of magic and physical, just to offset any potential weaknesses in a team. Vice versa for your more physcially built humans, team them up with some magical demons with a physical skill.
Hi,
sorry to hijack the thread but I have a daft question. For the life of me I don't understand how I crack skills. It seems that after certain battles I auto learn skills but how can I choose the ones I want to try to crack?
I think as I haven't done this before I've left my self in a really tricky position; I'm on the third day and have either Bugeikan or KUdan####a battles open to me, Unfortunately I get my ass kicked easily on both.
Any advice would be appreicated.
Thanks
Gen Eric Gui
01-12-2010, 04:48 AM
When you're setting up your party before the battle starts, you should be able to assign Crack skills to each party member. Take note of exactly which enemy you are targeting to learn the skill from, because the character who is cracking the skill has to be the one who actually -kills- that enemy to learn the skill. If somebody else kills that enemy, you won't learn anything.
Hi,
when I go to battle, I have 3 options only - edit team, positions and dispatch, I don't see anyway to set the crack skill. :?
Sleepless Neko
01-12-2010, 05:09 AM
Hi,
when I go to battle, I have 3 options only - edit team, positions and dispatch, I don't see anyway to set the crack skill. :?
Th crack option will appear in day 2 or 3 (I don't really remember). The game will notice you when the option become available.
Hi,
like i said in my OP,I am on day 3 and on my emails I do have one re. cracking.
Is this a bug maybe as I can't see this option anywhere?
Archie55
01-12-2010, 03:06 PM
When he brings back his minons, go for the ones that can heal him. I think it's easiest since then only he can heal himself. If you need more help, then just google Devil Survivor guides or walkthroughs. That's how i got through some of the days. The only have up to a certain point, though.
Silverevilchao
01-12-2010, 04:04 PM
When you're setting up your party before the battle starts, you should be able to assign Crack skills to each party member. Take note of exactly which enemy you are targeting to learn the skill from, because the character who is cracking the skill has to be the one who actually -kills- that enemy to learn the skill. If somebody else kills that enemy, you won't learn anything.
Me, I just got sick of having the wrong people kill them and assigned everyone to the same person. Guaranteed skill crack, muahaha. :P
Back on topic, I know for a FACT that Devil's Fuge is not connected to STR, because my character is ALWAYS a magic nuke (and thus with low STR), yet I still do a sizable amount of damage with the move.
Archie55
01-17-2010, 11:57 AM
So... I assume I can ask this here, but now I'm stuck. I'm on the Beliel battle. I keep leveling up, but it's gonna be a while till I get to 55 or higher. Suggestions?
Kenji
01-17-2010, 01:30 PM
I repeatedly hear from my friends that Belial is one of the toughest fights in the game. I can't say I disagree, because I was very surprised by just how strong he was compared to his minions (who I could drop like punks). This isn't really a strategy, but I'll tell you what I ended up doing.
In my particular game, the protagonist is actually the lowest leveled human in the party, because I treat him like a Chess king and don't risk him in combat if I can help it. My highest leveled member is Yuzu, and much of my strategy revolves around her, so my party tends to spread out at her speed.
I decided I was going to use this as an opportunity to level up my protag, so I loaded him with Bufudyne and Ice Jump, and gave him allies who were fire-resistant. The protag, himself, had Null Fire. However, as it turned out, he was unable to produce enough damage to counter Belial's 10% end-round recovery.
In my second attempt, I replaced Bufudyne with Ice Dance, using the same basic setup. The damage output was marginally better, but not enough to carry a battle.
I ended up putting putting together a provisional solution. I just happened to have Abaddon with Yuzu, and she just happened to be between the protag and Belial on a narrow pathway, so I used my protagonist as a meat shield while she took advantage of Chaos Wave and bombed Belial with Zandyne, which did easily double the damage of what Belial was technically weak to.
So, basically, my strategy ultimately boiled down to using the protagonist as a meat shield, Yuzu as artillery, and Midori and Atsurou to distract the minions. I ended up losing Atsurou, but victory was the reward.
Archie55
01-17-2010, 02:36 PM
K, so, just wondering, what level was Yuzu at? And were there any skills you need to crack in that battle?
Kenji
01-17-2010, 06:44 PM
52. Not sure where that lies on the overleveling scale.
Since she was the one who killed Belial, and I had originally planned for the protagonist to do it, there was nothing I cracked from him.
I don't think I used anything extraordinary, either. There were the skills I mentioned and some other stuff that seemed like a good idea.
Archie55
01-18-2010, 10:01 AM
Yeah, that worked for me, so thanks! now I have to battle Amnae and her army of follwers so I can get to Jezebel with Naoya. I think that it will only take some heavy leveling since I have Hero, Atsuro, Naoya, and Kaido, which are all real powerhouses in mine.
Archie55
01-24-2010, 10:19 AM
Okay, so, sorry if I seem kinda annoying because I keep asking for help, but, now I need help on Jezabel. I have Naoya, Hero, Atsuro, and Kaido.
Edit: If anyone is reading this, than I have gotten past that part. But now I'm stuck on the giant bug bel. I can't remember his name... Belbouzle I think. Not the very high up one, but the one before that. If that helps you help me, then I'd apperciate this.
Kiara
01-25-2010, 07:02 PM
Belzaboul. Ohhh, Belzaboul.
YOU NEED AMRITA AND/OR AFFECTION. If you can't heal status effects, you're gonna have a really hard time here.
First, you've got a wave of demons on your hands. Ohhh, how lovely. Stay out of Belzaboul's overly large attack range (luckily, he can't move) and keep beating them; I recommend cracking Prayer from Norn, but that can probably be done later. While beating up these enemies, don't let your health or mana get too low. Save it for Belzaboul if you can.
When you've defeated two enemy teams, the rest of 'em turn to maggots. Even better, they can plant eggs in your characters, which is an ability called Spawn. Belzaboul can use Spawn, too. After a few turns, these eggs will hatch, dealing a ton of damage, possibly killing the character, and bringing a new team of maggots to the field. If you get egged, AMRITA. Or Affection, if you swing that way. Maggots get in the way.
Maggots are strong against everything, but they have relatively low HP. Go for the leader when you fight 'em. Hopefully, you won't need to fight them too much.
When the maggots appear, run over to Belzaboul and surround him. Attack with all you've got; heal when necessary. By "when necessary," I mean "whenever you get egged." Again, you don't want to deal with more maggots than you have to.
Tyrants are really good to have on your team. They'll delay Belzaboul's turns and give you MP after the battle.
Laksmi's a pretty good healer; I used her when I fought this battle the first time. Astaroth and Hecate are pretty good Tyrants, but you can only have one of each.
It took me a few tries to beat this one the first time. Just keep trying and you'll get it.
Archie55
01-27-2010, 06:36 PM
Thanks, I'll try this. The last help I got from this forum helped. Hopefully this does too. But the one question I have is Why did they have to make the Bel's so freaking hard?? I breezed both Deva battles in the same hour. Without grinding. Partailly because I have the stupid challenges from the beginning of the day. But they were so simple.
Archie55
01-31-2010, 02:52 PM
Sorry, atlus. I've started over. I'm a little dissapointed. I still love the game, but... Eh, the Bel's need to be weaker. I don't think that a game that I am forced to grind nonstop just to barely get by is a favorite. Don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna quit forever, I've just started over. I like a challenge every once in a while, but not to hard. I'm gonna go back to it, but just wondering: Do I have to fight the bel in question on Yuzu's path?
Foobar
01-31-2010, 05:15 PM
Bezelboul is on all paths, to my knowledge.
Grinding isn't going to help you win anyway, only building strong characters and cracking every skill you can is going to help. Merely leveling up never gets you anywhere in a SMT or SMT spin-off game.
Things like Affection, Pierce /w strong physical attacks, Dance magic, Almighty spells are what you want to work toward. Skills that affect movement, physical damage and attack range are also big assets.
Beelzebuol has always been a bastard, regardless of the game he appears in. He's Beelzebub, its to be expected.
Archie55
01-31-2010, 06:14 PM
Aww, well that's kinda a bummer. Well, no point in trying to beat around the bush if the bush is a forest. But hey, I wanted to try different things anyways. Like keep a few people alive. But I heard Yuzu's path is semi easier than Naoya/Kaido's. BUT ONE DAY, YOU SHALL DIE, BELZABOUL. THIS, I SWEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Archie55
02-13-2010, 01:41 PM
Ok. I'm back! Right now, I'm on Beldr, which I won't be stuck on, but I have a couple q's. When Keisuke goes all justice freak, and he summons Yama, what day do I have the ability to fight them? You know, Keisuke and Yama. I think that it has police and normal civies in it. But anyways, after that, are the Bel's ever fuseable? I WANT THEM!!! I'm pretty sure that Lucifer is fuseable.
Kiara
02-14-2010, 04:56 PM
Nope, you can't fuse the Bels, I'm afraid. They're too godmoddy, really- Beldr nulls everything, some of 'em have insane attack ranges, all of them have some sort of attack that can hit anything and everything on the board... They're just meant for boss fights. But you CAN fuse Lucifer once you beat him, which you can do after your first playthrough. Be forewarned that he IS the hardest demon to beat; it's recommended to grind to level 99 to even think about fighting him.
Yuzu's path is, by far, the easiest. I played through all of them, Yuzu being the last. The only Bel you absolutely need to fight for that path is Beldr. There's a way to avoid Belial, but... It's... Not cool. (I did enjoy being called Mr. Failure, though. 8D) Naoya and Kaido have the absolute hardest route, I believe.
As for Keisuke... I accidentally killed him and Mari off the first time I played because I didn't know how to save them. Find Mari's bag and give it to Kaido, then stalk Keisuke like there's no tomorrow (there ain't many tomorrows anyway). I never remember an exact time, so I always just look for anything with Keisuke's name on it. It works quite well P:
Yuzu's path is a good one to take for your first complete playthrough. It's easy to beat (if you lose, you're in pretty bad shape, really), and afterward, you can have all these godmodding demons that'll take out all your enemies in one hit. I love having Hero take out Wendigo when Amane's supposed to. xP
By the way, when the end comes... I love having Garuda on my team. Flight and Phantasma are very handy abilities, especially during the end of every non-Yuzu route.
Archie55
02-14-2010, 06:48 PM
You wouldn't mind telling me how to aviod belial, would you? Fight the Bels is knda unfair. And I wouldn't mind being called Mr. Failure...
Ok, things to do after I hand Beldrs his: find Mrs. Mari's bag, give to kaido, and then... Well, *cues The Stalker on his iPod*.
Archie55
02-15-2010, 07:38 AM
And by the way: If I have a level 30 something demon, in a new game plus, since the humans level go back to 1, does the demon stay at 30? Or does it start at the level that it can be fused at?
Kiara
02-18-2010, 06:01 AM
The demon stays at the level it's at. Trust me, I have level 70+ demons. xD
It's not good for my mental health to avoid Belial... But if you're taking the Yuzu route, I guess it's okay. You have to let Haru die. I did it just to see what would happen. I felt so horrible... xD;;
Archie55
02-18-2010, 03:26 PM
The demon stays at the level it's at. Trust me, I have level 70+ demons. xD
It's not good for my mental health to avoid Belial... But if you're taking the Yuzu route, I guess it's okay. You have to let Haru die. I did it just to see what would happen. I felt so horrible... xD;;
Okay, I'm sorry I'm going to send you to a mental institution, but to I just say "go for it" or do I just ignore that event?
dungeon_man
02-19-2010, 06:41 AM
I don't think the bosses should be easier. They are meant to be challenging. In the case of the Bels, you're talking about a group of demons whose collective power rivals that of God. Of course they're going to be strong.
One trick that may help you if you get stuck is to abuse Blood Wine.
When I fought Belial, I had a guy with a Phantasma demon lead Belial in circles while other members of my party took turns sharing and healing my one Divine demon (Divines all have Blood Wine) which allowed me to Recarm everybody and fill up their HP/MP.
Likewise, I used Blood Wine to recover a bit after killing Belzaboul's minions before rushing the boss. (I stayed out of his range until all of the minions were dead) This was important because, excluding Atsuro with Pierce, everybody had to use magic (or magical reflects) to hurt him.
I've also had good luck using Drain. It goes through any resistance and, if you take away enough MP, it limits their available actions. Fairy - Vivian is good at this.
Kiara
02-19-2010, 03:45 PM
The demon stays at the level it's at. Trust me, I have level 70+ demons. xD
It's not good for my mental health to avoid Belial... But if you're taking the Yuzu route, I guess it's okay. You have to let Haru die. I did it just to see what would happen. I felt so horrible... xD;;
Okay, I'm sorry I'm going to send you to a mental institution, but to I just say "go for it" or do I just ignore that event?
You ignore the event.
Archie55
02-19-2010, 07:58 PM
Okay, I'll pay for your first asylum bill. Thanks for the help, fellow survivor. Did you have any trouble with the end bosses? Like... After Belzaboul? Cuz I'm gonna shank a penguin if Loki and Remiel and any other demons I have are constantly getting killed, lol.
Kiara
02-23-2010, 05:59 PM
The last few bosses are hard, but their turns come slowly. However, I DEFINITELY recommend phantasma or flight (flight is better) for them. It makes life so much easier. I have a Garuda on every team xD
The last bosses are kind of hard, but after playing Yuzu's route, they should be relatively easy. The final boss for Yuzu's route is pretty easy; if you had no problem with the Devas, you shouldn't have a problem here.
I played through Naoya's route first. I'm a sucker for that kind of character. :P Anyway, I did have some trouble, but like I said, Yuzu's route will make your future playthroughs so much easier.
And you know, the dungeon_man's right. Personally, though, I never had the blessing of a Divine. :P I don't believe I had Drain on anyone aside from Keisuke, either. Still, both tips actually look like they might have helped me on my first playthrough xD
Archie55
02-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Yeah, thanks.
...One more question. After I avoid Beliel, can I only take Yuzu's route? Because... I'm pretty sure that all the other endings require you to become the king of, like, everything. Which would be impossible if there is something you missed.
But anyways, I'm going to destroy Beldr soon! I haven't been playing this game very much. I've been so busy lately.
InvisibleMan
02-25-2010, 08:23 AM
I repeatedly hear from my friends that Belial is one of the toughest fights in the game. I can't say I disagree, because I was very surprised by just how strong he was compared to his minions (who I could drop like punks). This isn't really a strategy, but I'll tell you what I ended up doing.
In my particular game, the protagonist is actually the lowest leveled human in the party, because I treat him like a Chess king and don't risk him in combat if I can help it. My highest leveled member is Yuzu, and much of my strategy revolves around her, so my party tends to spread out at her speed.
I decided I was going to use this as an opportunity to level up my protag, so I loaded him with Bufudyne and Ice Jump, and gave him allies who were fire-resistant. The protag, himself, had Null Fire. However, as it turned out, he was unable to produce enough damage to counter Belial's 10% end-round recovery.
In my second attempt, I replaced Bufudyne with Ice Dance, using the same basic setup. The damage output was marginally better, but not enough to carry a battle.
I ended up putting putting together a provisional solution. I just happened to have Abaddon with Yuzu, and she just happened to be between the protag and Belial on a narrow pathway, so I used my protagonist as a meat shield while she took advantage of Chaos Wave and bombed Belial with Zandyne, which did easily double the damage of what Belial was technically weak to.
So, basically, my strategy ultimately boiled down to using the protagonist as a meat shield, Yuzu as artillery, and Midori and Atsurou to distract the minions. I ended up losing Atsurou, but victory was the reward.
That is a very interesting overall strategy, Kenji... I do exactly the opposite: My protagonist is the highest-leveled party memeber because I put him up front and center on every battle, and focus on his leveling the most. I also focus on his Strength, so he is also the one with the most powerful physical attacks. But your approach shows how versatile and deep the battle system in this game is!
Archie55
03-08-2010, 02:06 PM
Question of ya!! I just did what needs to be done in order to avoid Beliel. My death clock didn't change. What's up? Am I going to have to fight a certain beast for my life, or what? I need to know!!
Kiara
03-17-2010, 05:53 PM
No worries, dood. Just keep sailin' through.
Sorry for the late reply. I've been having virus problems lately. C:>
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