SMT Collection on Blu-Ray Disc. Would you buy it?

[Juanblue85]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy support would you guys buy an SMT collection on blu-ray having SMT: Nocturne, SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 with HD resolution, locked at 60 FPS with Trophy Support?

[darkstar2021]

That would be a day one purchase for me. I still want to track down all of the originals though.

[Hamel]

I have SMT: Nocturne and SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 so I wouldn't buy it

[Olethros]

Nope.

[Kenji]

Not for mere HD visuals (which, to my way of thinking, would only make those games look bland) and trophy support. Maybe if we got not only Raidou Kuzunoha in Nocturne but also hints at their connections to the rest of the MegaTen universe, though Nocturne's has been fairly cut and dried since last year. Oh, and higher difficulty modes, more optional bosses, and maybe an optional dungeon or two.

Never mind that this doesn't seem likely in the least...

[Nephlabobo]

For the PS2 games only? No.

For the older ones included as well? Yes.

[Manic Expressive]

If more series started making a blu ray HD collection, that would just rule hard. I hope Santa Monica studios gives everyone a heads up on the whole process of getting it done to run on a PS3.

[Nephlabobo]

Do we all really need to buy our PS2 games over again?

No.

Sony took out BC to screw over customers and re-sell our games to us.

It's despicable and we shouldn't buy any collections, because we're getting shafted.

[Manic Expressive]

Do we all really need to buy our PS2 games over again?

No.

Sony took out BC to screw over customers and re-sell our games to us.

It's despicable and we shouldn't buy any collections, because we're getting shafted.

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

[Eggn0g]

If this started becoming comonplace I would probably buy a PS3. Especially if they started doing PS1 game collections too.

[four_black_hearts]

Definitely not. These games look just fine on my hdtv as-is. :)

[Nephlabobo]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

[Manic Expressive]

u mad?

[Enzeru]

I can't say I would since I can't say I have a PS3. Well, I could, but I'd be lying. ;)

But if I did, then...sure? Maybe? I'd rather have the Raidou games, but with better AA, because to be honest, it's annoying how bad it is at points (ie: when Noromi curls his hair), and DDS and Nocturne wouldn't benefit with 60 FPS...

[Hamel]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

I, for one, didn't play GOW yet.
So getting both games for $40 and better graphics is not a bad deal.

[Nephlabobo]

It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

[Hamel]

It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

How is it a waste of money if it will make them money?besides they ASKED fans in a poll what they wanted and this is what they wanted so if anything they did it for the fans

[marche1990]

TBH, if Atlus made a compillation of the MegaTen games, I would buy it, even without having the console

[Intrigue]

Taking into account the amount of space and data they can write onto a blu-ray disc.
I would buy it if it came with all of the SMT & megaten games.

Of course all the games together are worth more than 60 dollars but to get them at that price would be mind blowing

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It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

They took out BC BECAUSE people complained that it was ridiculously priced, $600 dollars.
I have the original 80gb WITH backwards compatibility. i managed to save and pony up $500 dollars to pay for it as well. Considering im 18 and managed to do this i find it mind blowing that people can't be patient and put money aside each paycheck to get what they want. Its called planning ahead.

So for people who cry wrong doing for the loss of BC, well i don't know what to tell you besides you missed out. I play all my SMT games on my ps3 it has wonderful quality as well. The internal memory card is a nice feature too =D

Well i'm done now

[Zacewing]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

[Nephlabobo]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

[Manic Expressive]

You don't speak for everyone else, people are always going to have differing opinions. Please get that through your very thick skull.

[Eggn0g]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

But people would be much more likely to buy a collection of SMT games with improved graphics than buy them all individualy.

The BC issue is a real dick move by Sony, though. Apart from this collection thing (which I doubt was planned when they initially took BC out of the PS3), I cannot see a justification for removing BC.

[Zacewing]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

Yeah, that's $90 plus shipping (which I've heard the shipping alone can cost like 50 bucks) for Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2. Whereas they could release a collection of all 3 games with better quality visuals as well as include some older games (i.e. SMT, SMT2, Soul Hackers) for like, $60.

[Iris]

Yeah, that's $90 plus shipping (which I've heard the shipping alone can cost like 50 bucks) for Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2.

Unless you're getting shipping from one remote corner of the globe to the opposite remote corner of the globe, I cannot fathom how shipping would in this case approach fifty bucks. I've bought games online from anywhere from Hong Kong to here in the states and generally never gone over ten bucks on a single game, and usually not even over five.

Shipping other stuff from far overseas can get ridiculously expensive (I used to buy manga in bulk from JPQueen and spend nearly as much on the shipping as on the volumes themselves), but games are pretty small and light, so unless you're springing for overnight shipping (which is a luxury, hardly a necessity) it shouldn't be too unreasonable.

[four_black_hearts]

Amazon will ship your order for free if you spend $25.:very_sad:

[Crow T. Robot]

I know this is kinda bumpage, but I'd like to contribute to this thread. As Manic Expressive and Zacewig mentioned earlier, if it's for all SMT not just the PS2 ones then yes yes yes I would buy it.

Also I guess I'm idiot since I like GoW.

[Zacewing]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping.

Like I said before, I wouldn't buy it if it was just a few of the PS2 SMT games, cause I already have them all except for Raidou Kuzunoha 2.

[DamageCity]

As long as they keep Persona 3 out of it #### YEAH I would buy it.

[Nephlabobo]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping

I call B.S.

Find out where he was getting it shipped to.

[Crow T. Robot]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping.

Like I said before, I wouldn't buy it if it was just a few of the PS2 SMT games, cause I already have them all except for Raidou Kuzunoha 2.
Yeah I'm only missing Raidou Kuzunoha 2.

Which 3 games by the way?

[Slarth]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

I'm excited for the God of War collection as i've never played the originals, but i've got original copies of most SMT so I probably wouldn't but it would give other people a chance to get into the series :)

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

I would be excited to see a compilation Shin Megaten game with improved graphics. I don't have a problem with the way the graphics are now, but that doesn't mean they can't be improved.
I will say though (in accordance with many of the post above me) I would rather if they had a whole "Shin Megami Tensei" collection where all the main branch games were collected onto one disk, and then maybe "Digital Devil Saga" collection where those 2 games got put on a one blue-ray. One for the Devil Summoner games would be nice too. I just think that collection initially listed is a bit hodgepodge.

[Sakubo]

I have almost all the SMT games in the series but if they released this as a blue ray verison for ps3 I would still buy it day one

[Foobar]

Trophy/Achievement systems are a disease, not so much for single player experiences as online ones, but I miss the days when people set thier own goals for games instead of having some system of goals laid out for them.

Such systems seem to encourage more use of exploits and guides instead of exploration and discovery.

That aside, I'd rather just see digitally distributed versions so people can actually play these titles. Probably a ways off from happening, but I'd like some Nocturne on my PSP, I'm still fine with my PS2 version.

[Spacial User X]

Yes, I would

[Evilkinggumby]

Well I can't see them DOING this for quite some time. Doing fan projects like this requires them having enough knowledge of the platform hardware to do this kind of up conversion relatively cheap (i.e. next to 0 budget dollars) so that if they release it with no real turnout they aren't several million in the hole in dev time and dollars.

BUT

If they did it and developed it in a smart, economical way, yes I would likely buy it. I can't see them throwing their older/oldest games all onto a blue ray when those games stacked together wouldn't even fill an old school ps2 disc. Newest and more data heavy games I could see it making more technological sense. So for their oldest, I could see a cheap but viable digital download option(free if purchasing one of the collection Blue rays' as a promotion type thing).

Then stacking newer (ps2) series onto a disc, which would make sense, I would love to see it but with more added to the re-release. As you have seen from a lot of the posts, just throwing a game out there isn't going to convince fans(even hardcore ones, Bless you all!) to throw money at a game they've likely played before 3-4 times over to find and see EVERYTHING. What you need to do is step back and throw in new features. Yes it is likely a cheap way to do it , but look at the newer psp releases.

I looked at some of the video links posted for the 'Behind the Scenes' for the SMT: Nocturne games, and noticed they had a lot of stuff partially dev'd but unused. I could see them re-evaluating that and possibly taking those resources and adding them back now that there is technically "unlimited" time to get the project out. All SMT Nocturne on blue ray with higher FPS, AA, remastered soundtrack (just giving the audio a HD boost really) and the addition of bonus dungeons/content would likely fare a lot better with the fans, because it means hardcore fans will raise an eyebrow and say " whoa, stuff I haven't seen that was intended for the game, adds to the story/lore/gameplay and was originally supposed to be in the game but cut? Intriguing.... "

If they buy is still complete speculation.. but I bet the chances are a lot higher.

As well if they did so with the Persona games (which after doing re-releases already on the psp portable, would be a bit weird), they would have to do something similar. Since p3 already has the FES addition, they likely wouldn't need to add more content to something already rounded out. Since they remixed it a bit for the psp release, creating a "tweaked" ps3 version that allowed users to choose the "original game" or "generation 2" with M/F char's would be fine. And they have a whole TV series based after the game that, if they secured the rights to that, it could be included for an ultimate collector's edition. Then you get the base game with slight changes and a bonus of being able to snag and watch the tv series (for better or worse as I only watched about half of it and got horribly bored) in high def.

Some of the other series would likely have good selling methods as well, though I suspect newer games they've only released within the past 6-12 months wouldn't get the same treatment since that would just cut into their regular game sales a bit. :devil:

[Saburo Hikari]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy supportYou almost got me confused with Gears of War. x_x

[Darkecho]

I'll say pass, but if it were to come out I would probably change my mind right when it releases, as I do that a lot.

[TheDoctor]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

[Nephlabobo]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

No, you are right.

[Tsuko]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

I agree (not with the selfish me comment but that they should release the games that havent seen a Western Release)

[True Hollow Demon Kira]

That would be a day one purchase for me. I still want to track down all of the originals though.

i have SMT 1 and 2 on my pc (thank you emulators)...but plan on buying the real ones as soon as i see them....

[Jackstar]

I have tried to play Persona 3: Fes on my HDTV/EDTV using component cables, and the end result is less than desirable. Probably because my 32"/46" LCD TVs are using Twisted Nematic panels, and that's why the colors look washed out. It looked much worse on my 46" as P3 had no progressive scan support to smooth out the jaggies. I ended up unplugging my PS2 and went back to my good ole SDTV which had much deeper colors and sharper graphics.

*For comparisons, I've also tried to play God of War 2 using component cables in 480p on my SDTV and my HDTV, and again the colors look washed out on my HDTV and I very much prefer to play God of War 2 on my SDTV, without progressive scan turned on. Progressive scan on my SDTV tends to darken the games.

Now if Atlus decides to remake Nocturne, P3 (whichever version, original, Fes or P3P) or P4 that takes advantage of HD graphics, I'll buy them all over again on a Blu-ray. This will almost certainly mean lots of work to remodel the graphical assets. However if the transition to Blu-ray involves just 720p/1080i/1080p support then I'm likely to pass, since I'm looking for remakes, not just digitally remastered versions that costs $40 per pop but only gives 5% improvements.

[IceCold_Assassin]

If it had all the previous smt games all in english then hell yes.

[Pantaloons]

Amazon will ship your order for free if you spend $25.:very_sad:

Yeah, Amazon.com is where to go to get these right now if you live in the US for sure. BUT, Amazon.com only ships to the US and other regional Amazon.com sites such as Amazon.ca for Canada don't carry the same stock, even though both countries use the same consoles and software releases.

Found this out when I was going to buy Devil Summoner 2 just ONE MONTH after it was released. Amazon.ca had none in stock and every individual seller was marking it up at least $25-30 over retail value.

[Nephlabobo]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy support would you guys buy an SMT collection on blu-ray having SMT: Nocturne, SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 with HD resolution, locked at 60 FPS with Trophy Support?

No.

Why do we need the same games released over and over again.

You should have bought these games when they came out.

If you missed out, tough luck.

I would rather see Atlus focus on *new* content than rehashing the same stuff again and again.

And Amazon.ca is probably the worst online store I have ever dealt with.

Amazon.com screws Canada over by refusing to ship games there - and doesn't bother stocking Amazon.ca.

[urmean15]

You give me SMT 1, 2, If, 3, DDS 1+2, and hell, throw in one of the Devil Summoners that never got released, and you've got yourself a sale.

[Kromat]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

[Hamel]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

Why?as far as I know NINE sucked

[Vicious1915]

I agree with time and money being spent on SMT I, II, and If...

OH please dear sweet Jack bring us Shin Megami Tensei: If...

I've tried three different times to play that game in Japanese and it's just plain FAIL. PLEASE....I'll pay next gen prices for it, even. Just PLEASE PLEASE bring us Shin Megami Tensei: If...

*sob* *sob* *choke* *hysterical sob*

[TheDoctor]

^ If we just get SMT: If... and Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers I would be happy.

I hope Persona PSP was Atlus JP testing the the market to bring some ports of old games not a reaction to Persona 3's popularity.

I also hope that Atlus USA haven't lost the source key for Soul Hackers O_o.

[Quig]

Trophy/Achievement systems are a disease, not so much for single player experiences as online ones, but I miss the days when people set thier own goals for games instead of having some system of goals laid out for them.

Such systems seem to encourage more use of exploits and guides instead of exploration and discovery.

That aside, I'd rather just see digitally distributed versions so people can actually play these titles. Probably a ways off from happening, but I'd like some Nocturne on my PSP, I'm still fine with my PS2 version.

Trophy whores annoy me too...

[ShinGundam]

Dual Audio please ...

[Sleepless Neko]

If it has the older games in english then yeah and If they enhanched the older game... Hell yeah!

[Jackstar]

You know what? I'm going to do a 180 on my take with GoW Collection. After playing through it, I find it is indeed more than just simple upscaling. There is some good effort on upgrading the models and this is contrasted every time a cutscene (old, unimproved CG) takes place, and the new HD content takes over during the actual game play segments.

So yes, sign me up if there is a SMT collection that sees similar efforts in upgrading! I would love Nocturne, P3 and P4 to be displayed in true HD.

[Soushi_Grapple]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

I can understand w/DDS because its so rare.. but I'd love an exclusive Japan only collection that had Devil Summoner 1, 2, SMT 1, 2, If, P2:IS,.. I'd get those if they released them at all.

I don't think I'd buy an HD bundle as I dont have a PS3 or an HDTV... XD

[Tsuko]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

I can understand w/DDS because its so rare.. but I'd love an exclusive Japan only collection that had Devil Summoner 1, 2, SMT 1, 2, If, P2:IS,.. I'd get those if they released them at all.

I don't think I'd buy an HD bundle as I dont have a PS3 or an HDTV... XD

It would be cool if this Collection did happen but it should have the NES Megami Tensei games on it as well and maybe the Last Bible games

[Xelloss]

I would def buy it. PS2 games look like crap on my LCD. Add some trophies, and a few little extras, would be a good lead-in to the next SMT games when they finally hit current gen consoles. They really should do 2, a SMT Nocturne/DDS set and a Persona 3/4 set.

[Oceanborn]

Yes I'd definately buy that, even though I have a backwards compatible PS3 and the PS2 games here. Most of the PAL PS2 SMT games offer an NTSC option, but the rest (DDS1 and the Personas) is pretty annoying... runs slower and is pressed flat. That alone would be a reason to buy a PS3 collection for a little money. Also, Devil Summoner 2 wasn't released in Europe and my old chipped PS2 died on me a couple months ago, just when I was going to buy the game. If that was included in some kind of collection, that alone would be reason enough for me to buy it.

[OceanMachine19]

I would most definitely make this a day one purchase if it did come out. I doubt many people on these boards would be terribly excited about it, as they more than likely have the originals. However, one thing that would personally have me, and more than likely anyone reading this, shaking with anticipation would be if they included translated versions of the old school SMT titles on a bonus DVD.

[Deified Data]

Yes. I would buy this.

[shk_619]

i'll buy it, cause i don't have them

[Trucido Umbra]

This would only be a great idea if by collection the meaning was every SMT not released in the u.s., uncut & unabridged... for me. For others who can't get a copy of what's out here from the early days at a decent price it would be good for business overall bringing the new fans deeper in.

[ペルソナ]

That makes sense, but I don't know how the people who found out about Shin Megami Tensei because of Persona 3 would feel once they play them... A lot of these people complain(ed) about the difficulty of the original Persona and random battles, which is similar to the difficulty of the other ones and if it's going to be a "collection", I'm not sure if they'll make it easier, since it isn't a remake..... Unfortunately, they don't seem to keen on the way old school RPGs were(funny I should say this considering my age, but I LOVE old school RPGs, and have no idea why most other people hate them so much @_@ :()

[Trucido Umbra]

I don't know, I played P3 before ever touching any of the others, never got into them until I saw the 'evoker' play style of 3. But, now I even love 'Innocent Sin', nothing like the last boss in that one, nor some of those demons with... yeah I'll stop before spoiler needed. Also, before someone tries to say I pirated Innocent Sin, 'fork you' I own my copy, even still have the Lucifer card it came with for the SMT card game promo inside the PS1 case.

But seriously, poster 'Persona' I was talking about all of them on the sony PS1-2 platforms. A huge collector's stash of everything from SMT1 to the first releases that can't be found anymore new without going through a high cost scalper & some even for a used copy.

Not ever going to happen, but I can dream can't I. lol

What I was saying would help business would just be the ones that were realesed here, (even if just limited to PS2 titles as I was describing, the ones hard to find or not in production) not requiring any translation or much corporate loss to go through the trouble of (regardless of what a seasoned fan like myself would expect if willing to pay money for it). Nocturne/Lucifer's Call, Digital Devil Saga's 1&2, those might really help Atlus in the long run with the new crowd of fans who haven't had a chance to touch them.

Age matters not, where your interest lies is all that counts, you can find a way to it if your will is strong enough. I love them & at times hate them myself, I'm kinda chaotic about my gaming playstyle enjoyments, other than just about anything too childish, I can't stand much that isn't adult themed at the least.

[ペルソナ]

I only mentioned the older games because almost everybody else was talking about how they would get it if it had the ones not released here. :D

If I had a PS3, I would get it, because when Nocturne came out, I was 15, so I could only look at the screen shots on the site and listen to the music with an expression of longing written all over my face since I was too young to get it and didn't have a job. Same reaction with Digital Devil Saga, since that was also on the site. Two days ago, I almost started crying when I saw that those sites are still up.(<---- WTF reaction XD).

Anyway, I also want to play the absolute first two games in the series(Mega Ten, of coarse), so if Atlus were to make total collection like most others are suggesting, then that would be awesome. And as a preorder bonus.... forget the preorder bonus, this should be included with every game.... the novels that inspired this series!!! (*o*)

[iLLMaTiC619]

Digital Devil Saga would be cool I have part 1 but need part 2..I would love to play Persona 2 both parts on blu-ray..

I know they don't have next-gen graphics but all the space you can put on a blu-ray I would be down for.

I hope Atlus reads these posts and ideas..With Persona and Demon Souls etc catching the mainstream gamers eye, they can make more money and put these other classic games that some didn't get to play in our hands

[LadyRayna]

I really don’t see the point in re-releasing DDS1&2 and Nocturne, they got a reprint last year and they’re still relatively easy to find. Besides, would it be profitable for Atlus to release such a collection?

[iLLMaTiC619]

I agree..I think peeps want them for PS3 for the trophies and such... I wanna see Persona 2 and the hard to find SMT games

[Trucido Umbra]

I really don’t see the point in re-releasing DDS1&2 and Nocturne, they got a reprint last year and they’re still relatively easy to find. Besides, would it be profitable for Atlus to release such a collection?

I think it's pretty obvious some folks never got a hold of them. However, I see them used on amazon for 30-40$ so people who want them won't get empty wallets, but personally I'm thinking of my dreams to have all the ones from the start as 'persona' suggested, sigh.

[iLLMaTiC619]

I'm lucky I bought a bunch of SMT games from Gamestop and Gamecrazy. I'm caught up except I need Devil Summoner2 and DDS2 also, I'm hunting Persona 2 out here if I can find it, or else I'm going to have to buy it online

[Kain Mare]

Hm... I suppose if it held the original SMT series before the days of PS2, then I would highly consider purchasing it. If it was a collection of Nocturne, DDS1/2 Devil Summoner 1/2 or any of the Persona games, I'd have to decline. I already have them.

I, personally, don't give 2 cents about trophies/achievements for the game. I actually think it would ruin them, but that's a personal opinion. Let the games be as they were, just updated graphics or whatnot.

[LadyRayna]

I really don’t see the point in re-releasing DDS1&2 and Nocturne, they got a reprint last year and they’re still relatively easy to find. Besides, would it be profitable for Atlus to release such a collection?

I think it's pretty obvious some folks never got a hold of them.

Yeah, but if Atlus takes into consideration every single person who never played their games, they’ll go bankrupt because they’ll have to keep on reprinting them forever. There’ll always be someone who didn’t have the chance to buy a certain game and the only way around this, as far as I can see, is digital distribution.

[iLLMaTiC619]

I really don’t see the point in re-releasing DDS1&2 and Nocturne, they got a reprint last year and they’re still relatively easy to find. Besides, would it be profitable for Atlus to release such a collection?

I think it's pretty obvious some folks never got a hold of them.

Yeah, but if Atlus takes into consideration every single person who never played their games, they’ll go bankrupt because they’ll have to keep on reprinting them forever. There’ll always be someone who didn’t have the chance to buy a certain game and the only way around this, as far as I can see, is digital distribution.

I think they will put Persona 2 on PSP.. but if not I like the idea of digital distribution. The people who didn't get to play some of these great games that are hard to find should be able to get the chance to. Persona 3 and 4 drew in new fans and having access to these classic games is a win win situation for both sides

[ペルソナ]

iLLMaTiC619 and everybody else still looking for... I'll call them The Big 3.... I was checking to see if the various stores owned by Game Stop still had Digital Devil Saga, and, I was lucky to find both(and DDS with soundtrack minus box, I'm still shocked @_@) at the store, but if you guys haven't been able to, apparently, they've got some at the warehouse.

Just type Shin Megami Tensei, scroll down, and you'll find both Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. For Digital Devil Saga 2, you'll have to type Digital Devil Saga 2, because that's how they have it in the system(you won't find it with the rest for whatever odd reason). If you people don't have a credit card and don't already know, just go to the store and get a gift card(I used one to get Nocturne). Good luck!

[iLLMaTiC619]

iLLMaTiC619 and everybody else still looking for... I'll call them The Big 3.... I was checking to see if the various stores owned by Game Stop still had Digital Devil Saga, and, I was lucky to find both(and DDS with soundtrack minus box, I'm still shocked @_@) at the store, but if you guys haven't been able to, apparently, they've got some at the warehouse.

Just type Shin Megami Tensei, scroll down, and you'll find both Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga. For Digital Devil Saga 2, you'll have to type Digital Devil Saga 2, because that's how they have it in the system(you won't find it with the rest for whatever odd reason). If you people don't have a credit card and don't already know, just go to the store and get a gift card(I used one to get Nocturne). Good luck!

I got caught up years ago buying SMT and Atlus games at gamestop and gamescrazy. Only one I need is Persona 2 and Digital Devil Saga2 and Devil Summoner 2. I really want to get Persona 2 and looking to trade. money is tight now and can't find it in a couple stores here in San Diego to trade my other games in for it. Imma try and come up so I can get it.

[Trucido Umbra]

^ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00004WLZ7/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1283832037&sr=8-1&condition=used Persona 2 from 44$

DDS2 http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000784XG2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1283832099&sr=1-1&condition=new from 28$

Devil Summoner 2 http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001QTW2GY/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1283832153&sr=1-1&condition=new from 35$

& as for digital distribution, how's that going to work for PS2 titles unless we all use the jailbreak code to mod emulation on the newer PS3's?

[iLLMaTiC619]

^ http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00004WLZ7/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1283832037&sr=8-1&condition=used Persona 2 from 44$

DDS2 http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000784XG2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1283832099&sr=1-1&condition=new from 28$

Devil Summoner 2 http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001QTW2GY/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1283832153&sr=1-1&condition=new from 35$

& as for digital distribution, how's that going to work for PS2 titles unless we all use the jailbreak code to mod emulation on the newer PS3's?

well I have a psp so if they wanna put Persona 2 on psp I'll be happy :)

[iLLMaTiC619]

also ps3 psn store sells downloadable ps1 games..wish they had Persona 2 avalible

[LadyRayna]

& as for digital distribution, how's that going to work for PS2 titles unless we all use the jailbreak code to mod emulation on the newer PS3's?

You're right, at this moment it's not possible, but it could be done with their older games (Atlus Japan is already doing it). However, I still stand by what I said, I don't think it’s feasible for Atlus to release a collection which only includes the DDS games and Nocturne.

[Pharos]

I've yet to buy either of the Digital Devil Saga games so yes I definitely would, I'm doubting it though, Atlus doesn't release remakes in that manner. Plus the only game that gets remakes usually is Persona 3. (and Nocturne I guess)

[Hamel]

Plus the only game that gets remakes usually is Persona 3. (and Nocturne I guess)

And:
Megami Tensei 1&2
SMT 1
SMT 2
SMT If
Devil Summoner
Persona 1
and I think that's it

but yeah... Just Nocturne and P3

[lokaos]

yes and hell yeah I'll get a ps3 to come with it lol XD

p/s my 1st post woo!!!! :grouphug:

[Sanger Zonvolt]

If they came with some graphical updates and extra content added.

[Venus]

That makes sense, but I don't know how the people who found out about Shin Megami Tensei because of Persona 3 would feel once they play them... A lot of these people complain(ed) about the difficulty of the original Persona and random battles, which is similar to the difficulty of the other ones and if it's going to be a "collection", I'm not sure if they'll make it easier, since it isn't a remake..... Unfortunately, they don't seem to keen on the way old school RPGs were(funny I should say this considering my age, but I LOVE old school RPGs, and have no idea why most other people hate them so much @_@ :()
I found Persona 3 and 4 to be significantly easier compared to Persona 1 and 2.

[Hector]

I definitely would buy it.

[Hamel]

That makes sense, but I don't know how the people who found out about Shin Megami Tensei because of Persona 3 would feel once they play them... A lot of these people complain(ed) about the difficulty of the original Persona and random battles, which is similar to the difficulty of the other ones and if it's going to be a "collection", I'm not sure if they'll make it easier, since it isn't a remake..... Unfortunately, they don't seem to keen on the way old school RPGs were(funny I should say this considering my age, but I LOVE old school RPGs, and have no idea why most other people hate them so much @_@ :()
I found Persona 3 and 4 to be significantly easier compared to Persona 1 and 2.

Seriously?
EP had some hard parts but overall P3 and 4 are harder (as long as you don't pick easy)

[Iris]

I don't think P1 was that hard, at least not on SEBEC side. The final battle was nasty if you weren't prepared, because it's a bit of a jump in difficulty, IMO. But aside from that, once you hit level 18 and made Gozu-Tennou and Phaleg, you could rock most things in your path pretty easily. Those two carried me all the way to the endgame, seriously.

As for P2, there are a few nasty battles, but for the most part, I don't think P2 is that bad if you know the ins and outs of the battle system and you take the time to set up a party with good fusion spells. (Though if you don't...well, bend over and apply lube.)

P3 I think was harder than either of them, if we're talking about vanilla version. P3P's pretty easy, though.

[Venus]

That makes sense, but I don't know how the people who found out about Shin Megami Tensei because of Persona 3 would feel once they play them... A lot of these people complain(ed) about the difficulty of the original Persona and random battles, which is similar to the difficulty of the other ones and if it's going to be a "collection", I'm not sure if they'll make it easier, since it isn't a remake..... Unfortunately, they don't seem to keen on the way old school RPGs were(funny I should say this considering my age, but I LOVE old school RPGs, and have no idea why most other people hate them so much @_@ :()
I found Persona 3 and 4 to be significantly easier compared to Persona 1 and 2.

Seriously?
EP had some hard parts but overall P3 and 4 are harder (as long as you don't pick easy)
I was referring to the mechanics, specifically the fusion systems in Persona 3 and 4. In my opinion it makes the game some what easier.

- You have more control over the skills your personae wield.

I found that the skill inheritance system gave me almost an unfair advantage against a lot of the enemies in the later Persona games. In Persona 1 and 2 you had virtually no control over the skills your Persona could learn a side from giving them various items to teach them skills in Persona 1 and Mutations and skill cards in Persona 2. They were still for the most part left to their own devices when it came to the skills they could learn. This could often times lead to odd juxtapositions. You'd expect a higher level Persona to have higher level skills right? Well this isn't always the case in the earlier Persona games. You might come across a Level 70 Persona who has low to mid level starter skills at rank 1 but doesn't learn their Planet crushing skills until Rank 6 or 7. Now I can understand what they were going for, as your persona get stronger they learn stronger skills that's fine. But when you are in a pinch you don't want your ace persona to have a skill slot dedicated to Twinkle Punch while another is dedicated to Megidoladaon do you? But in Persona 2's defense it does employ a battle system that revolves more around fusion skills and what not so even if your persona knows low to mid level skills it's not frozen out of battle until it learns it's best skills.

- Status Buffs

While these play a significant role in the earlier Persona games (seriously Makakaja can turn any mild mannered Persona user into a magical Juggernaut) this is almost taken to insane levels in Persona 4. Deliberate can easily de-fang any enemy (including the final boss) and Heat Riser can make any character into Dr. Manhattan for a day.

- Finally let's not forget our BFF all out attacks.

By the way, I'm not saying Persona 3 and 4 are "easy" I just think that subtle tweaks made the games easier at least for me then their predecessors. In the end I think it comes down to you simply knowing what you are doing and planing for every situation accordingly. If you aren't prepared and don't know what you are doing well they can all be hard. Of course even if you know what you're doing they are still hard...

[kerostar]

Dual Audio please ...

My thoughts exactly. :P

[Demi_Fiend]

of course i would!!

[AjaxNerom]

HDified?! YES!

[OtakuStudy]

I would personally not object to, instead of Nocturne + DDS, having all the three original SMT games in the set, maybe actually having current-gen graphic quality on the first two...

But that is wishful thinking eh?

I wouldn't object to it through, I have DDS2 and Nocturne (Well, Lucifers Core for us PAL region people), but hey, I havent got DDS1 and HD for them would be good =P.

[Asch-no-Okami]

Yesh! I would buy it.

[Kromat]

Depends what would be on it, Persona games have been overdone, but getting something like Devil Digital Saga 1 & 2, SMT Nine (translated), maybe Nocturne, I haven't played any of the PS2 versions, just started with Devil Survivor and really enjoyed it, so I got Strange Journey & Persona 3 (PSP) after that, and have really followed it more because of the mythology, hoping to see new titles by Atlus in SMT universe too, we'll see.

[leonemesis]

Short answer: yes.

Hell, I'd probably buy it even if they put only SMT Nocturne in the disc :devil:

[LuckysRevenge]

I would definitely get something like this. They are already doing HD Remixes of some other series'. Like Prince of Persia Collection, the God of Wars, and coming soon Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, and Zone of the Enders Collections. A Collection of say: Persona 3, 4, and Nocturne would be freaking sweet. I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

[SerphoftheEmbryon]

I would buy it. It seems like a good idea, I'd love to see Serph and his gang in HD lol.

[Setsuka]

I'd absolutely get this. I already own Nocturne, DDS and DDS2, but I'd buy them in HD-ified glory for the PS3 in a heartbeat, and then procreed to play them all again. And *seriously* - dual audio!!!

They could also get away with just releasing Nocturne on Blu-Ray, updating the graphics to HD and I'd still get it, but... shhhh. ;)

Seriously, in the interim until a new SMT comes out on the next gen consoles, this would be a great thing, along with the older SMTs and If on the PSN. Wish they would do that.