SMT Collection on Blu-Ray Disc. Would you buy it?

[Juanblue85]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy support would you guys buy an SMT collection on blu-ray having SMT: Nocturne, SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 with HD resolution, locked at 60 FPS with Trophy Support?

[darkstar2021]

That would be a day one purchase for me. I still want to track down all of the originals though.

[Hamel]

I have SMT: Nocturne and SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 so I wouldn't buy it

[Olethros]

Nope.

[Kenji]

Not for mere HD visuals (which, to my way of thinking, would only make those games look bland) and trophy support. Maybe if we got not only Raidou Kuzunoha in Nocturne but also hints at their connections to the rest of the MegaTen universe, though Nocturne's has been fairly cut and dried since last year. Oh, and higher difficulty modes, more optional bosses, and maybe an optional dungeon or two.

Never mind that this doesn't seem likely in the least...

[Nephlabobo]

For the PS2 games only? No.

For the older ones included as well? Yes.

[Manic Expressive]

If more series started making a blu ray HD collection, that would just rule hard. I hope Santa Monica studios gives everyone a heads up on the whole process of getting it done to run on a PS3.

[Nephlabobo]

Do we all really need to buy our PS2 games over again?

No.

Sony took out BC to screw over customers and re-sell our games to us.

It's despicable and we shouldn't buy any collections, because we're getting shafted.

[Manic Expressive]

Do we all really need to buy our PS2 games over again?

No.

Sony took out BC to screw over customers and re-sell our games to us.

It's despicable and we shouldn't buy any collections, because we're getting shafted.

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

[Eggn0g]

If this started becoming comonplace I would probably buy a PS3. Especially if they started doing PS1 game collections too.

[four_black_hearts]

Definitely not. These games look just fine on my hdtv as-is. :)

[Nephlabobo]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

[Manic Expressive]

u mad?

[Enzeru]

I can't say I would since I can't say I have a PS3. Well, I could, but I'd be lying. ;)

But if I did, then...sure? Maybe? I'd rather have the Raidou games, but with better AA, because to be honest, it's annoying how bad it is at points (ie: when Noromi curls his hair), and DDS and Nocturne wouldn't benefit with 60 FPS...

[Hamel]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

I, for one, didn't play GOW yet.
So getting both games for $40 and better graphics is not a bad deal.

[Nephlabobo]

It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

[Hamel]

It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

How is it a waste of money if it will make them money?besides they ASKED fans in a poll what they wanted and this is what they wanted so if anything they did it for the fans

[marche1990]

TBH, if Atlus made a compillation of the MegaTen games, I would buy it, even without having the console

[Intrigue]

Taking into account the amount of space and data they can write onto a blu-ray disc.
I would buy it if it came with all of the SMT & megaten games.

Of course all the games together are worth more than 60 dollars but to get them at that price would be mind blowing

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It is a waste of time, energy and money.

This is why the bloody PS3 is in last place.

They take away BC because they say they want to focus on PS3 titles and "the future".

Then they release this?

Hypocrites. Bloody hypocrites.

They took out BC BECAUSE people complained that it was ridiculously priced, $600 dollars.
I have the original 80gb WITH backwards compatibility. i managed to save and pony up $500 dollars to pay for it as well. Considering im 18 and managed to do this i find it mind blowing that people can't be patient and put money aside each paycheck to get what they want. Its called planning ahead.

So for people who cry wrong doing for the loss of BC, well i don't know what to tell you besides you missed out. I play all my SMT games on my ps3 it has wonderful quality as well. The internal memory card is a nice feature too =D

Well i'm done now

[Zacewing]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

[Nephlabobo]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

[Manic Expressive]

You don't speak for everyone else, people are always going to have differing opinions. Please get that through your very thick skull.

[Eggn0g]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

But people would be much more likely to buy a collection of SMT games with improved graphics than buy them all individualy.

The BC issue is a real dick move by Sony, though. Apart from this collection thing (which I doubt was planned when they initially took BC out of the PS3), I cannot see a justification for removing BC.

[Zacewing]

You guys have failed to mention that a blu-ray SMT collection would allow people who never got to play the games a chnce to play them without having to spend craptons of money buying them off the internet.

Though it should include older games in the series as well.

They're all available for $30 each on Amazon right now.

So do we need a collection?

No.

Yeah, that's $90 plus shipping (which I've heard the shipping alone can cost like 50 bucks) for Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2. Whereas they could release a collection of all 3 games with better quality visuals as well as include some older games (i.e. SMT, SMT2, Soul Hackers) for like, $60.

[Iris]

Yeah, that's $90 plus shipping (which I've heard the shipping alone can cost like 50 bucks) for Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2.

Unless you're getting shipping from one remote corner of the globe to the opposite remote corner of the globe, I cannot fathom how shipping would in this case approach fifty bucks. I've bought games online from anywhere from Hong Kong to here in the states and generally never gone over ten bucks on a single game, and usually not even over five.

Shipping other stuff from far overseas can get ridiculously expensive (I used to buy manga in bulk from JPQueen and spend nearly as much on the shipping as on the volumes themselves), but games are pretty small and light, so unless you're springing for overnight shipping (which is a luxury, hardly a necessity) it shouldn't be too unreasonable.

[four_black_hearts]

Amazon will ship your order for free if you spend $25.:very_sad:

[Crow T. Robot]

I know this is kinda bumpage, but I'd like to contribute to this thread. As Manic Expressive and Zacewig mentioned earlier, if it's for all SMT not just the PS2 ones then yes yes yes I would buy it.

Also I guess I'm idiot since I like GoW.

[Zacewing]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping.

Like I said before, I wouldn't buy it if it was just a few of the PS2 SMT games, cause I already have them all except for Raidou Kuzunoha 2.

[DamageCity]

As long as they keep Persona 3 out of it #### YEAH I would buy it.

[Nephlabobo]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping

I call B.S.

Find out where he was getting it shipped to.

[Crow T. Robot]

Well, someone on another forum I visit said Amazon was gonna charge him $140 for all 3 games after shipping.

Like I said before, I wouldn't buy it if it was just a few of the PS2 SMT games, cause I already have them all except for Raidou Kuzunoha 2.
Yeah I'm only missing Raidou Kuzunoha 2.

Which 3 games by the way?

[Slarth]

If they are HD remixes of some sort and aren't priced too high, sure they are. Not everyone gave particular games a chance first time around, a sugar coated HD re-release for a reasonable price would definitely justify a buy. I know a lot of people are excited for the upcoming God of War 1/2 blu ray.

No, it wouldn't. And the people excited for GOW are idiots.

I'm excited for the God of War collection as i've never played the originals, but i've got original copies of most SMT so I probably wouldn't but it would give other people a chance to get into the series :)

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

I would be excited to see a compilation Shin Megaten game with improved graphics. I don't have a problem with the way the graphics are now, but that doesn't mean they can't be improved.
I will say though (in accordance with many of the post above me) I would rather if they had a whole "Shin Megami Tensei" collection where all the main branch games were collected onto one disk, and then maybe "Digital Devil Saga" collection where those 2 games got put on a one blue-ray. One for the Devil Summoner games would be nice too. I just think that collection initially listed is a bit hodgepodge.

[Sakubo]

I have almost all the SMT games in the series but if they released this as a blue ray verison for ps3 I would still buy it day one

[Foobar]

Trophy/Achievement systems are a disease, not so much for single player experiences as online ones, but I miss the days when people set thier own goals for games instead of having some system of goals laid out for them.

Such systems seem to encourage more use of exploits and guides instead of exploration and discovery.

That aside, I'd rather just see digitally distributed versions so people can actually play these titles. Probably a ways off from happening, but I'd like some Nocturne on my PSP, I'm still fine with my PS2 version.

[Spacial User X]

Yes, I would

[Evilkinggumby]

Well I can't see them DOING this for quite some time. Doing fan projects like this requires them having enough knowledge of the platform hardware to do this kind of up conversion relatively cheap (i.e. next to 0 budget dollars) so that if they release it with no real turnout they aren't several million in the hole in dev time and dollars.

BUT

If they did it and developed it in a smart, economical way, yes I would likely buy it. I can't see them throwing their older/oldest games all onto a blue ray when those games stacked together wouldn't even fill an old school ps2 disc. Newest and more data heavy games I could see it making more technological sense. So for their oldest, I could see a cheap but viable digital download option(free if purchasing one of the collection Blue rays' as a promotion type thing).

Then stacking newer (ps2) series onto a disc, which would make sense, I would love to see it but with more added to the re-release. As you have seen from a lot of the posts, just throwing a game out there isn't going to convince fans(even hardcore ones, Bless you all!) to throw money at a game they've likely played before 3-4 times over to find and see EVERYTHING. What you need to do is step back and throw in new features. Yes it is likely a cheap way to do it , but look at the newer psp releases.

I looked at some of the video links posted for the 'Behind the Scenes' for the SMT: Nocturne games, and noticed they had a lot of stuff partially dev'd but unused. I could see them re-evaluating that and possibly taking those resources and adding them back now that there is technically "unlimited" time to get the project out. All SMT Nocturne on blue ray with higher FPS, AA, remastered soundtrack (just giving the audio a HD boost really) and the addition of bonus dungeons/content would likely fare a lot better with the fans, because it means hardcore fans will raise an eyebrow and say " whoa, stuff I haven't seen that was intended for the game, adds to the story/lore/gameplay and was originally supposed to be in the game but cut? Intriguing.... "

If they buy is still complete speculation.. but I bet the chances are a lot higher.

As well if they did so with the Persona games (which after doing re-releases already on the psp portable, would be a bit weird), they would have to do something similar. Since p3 already has the FES addition, they likely wouldn't need to add more content to something already rounded out. Since they remixed it a bit for the psp release, creating a "tweaked" ps3 version that allowed users to choose the "original game" or "generation 2" with M/F char's would be fine. And they have a whole TV series based after the game that, if they secured the rights to that, it could be included for an ultimate collector's edition. Then you get the base game with slight changes and a bonus of being able to snag and watch the tv series (for better or worse as I only watched about half of it and got horribly bored) in high def.

Some of the other series would likely have good selling methods as well, though I suspect newer games they've only released within the past 6-12 months wouldn't get the same treatment since that would just cut into their regular game sales a bit. :devil:

[Saburo Hikari]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy supportYou almost got me confused with Gears of War. x_x

[Darkecho]

I'll say pass, but if it were to come out I would probably change my mind right when it releases, as I do that a lot.

[TheDoctor]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

[Nephlabobo]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

No, you are right.

[Tsuko]

I'd rather them working on ports of the games we didn't get like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Devil Summoner, Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers and Shin Megami Tensei: If... than HD versions of PS2 games that we did get.

Selfish me.

I agree (not with the selfish me comment but that they should release the games that havent seen a Western Release)

[True Hollow Demon Kira]

That would be a day one purchase for me. I still want to track down all of the originals though.

i have SMT 1 and 2 on my pc (thank you emulators)...but plan on buying the real ones as soon as i see them....

[Jackstar]

I have tried to play Persona 3: Fes on my HDTV/EDTV using component cables, and the end result is less than desirable. Probably because my 32"/46" LCD TVs are using Twisted Nematic panels, and that's why the colors look washed out. It looked much worse on my 46" as P3 had no progressive scan support to smooth out the jaggies. I ended up unplugging my PS2 and went back to my good ole SDTV which had much deeper colors and sharper graphics.

*For comparisons, I've also tried to play God of War 2 using component cables in 480p on my SDTV and my HDTV, and again the colors look washed out on my HDTV and I very much prefer to play God of War 2 on my SDTV, without progressive scan turned on. Progressive scan on my SDTV tends to darken the games.

Now if Atlus decides to remake Nocturne, P3 (whichever version, original, Fes or P3P) or P4 that takes advantage of HD graphics, I'll buy them all over again on a Blu-ray. This will almost certainly mean lots of work to remodel the graphical assets. However if the transition to Blu-ray involves just 720p/1080i/1080p support then I'm likely to pass, since I'm looking for remakes, not just digitally remastered versions that costs $40 per pop but only gives 5% improvements.

[IceCold_Assassin]

If it had all the previous smt games all in english then hell yes.

[Pantaloons]

Amazon will ship your order for free if you spend $25.:very_sad:

Yeah, Amazon.com is where to go to get these right now if you live in the US for sure. BUT, Amazon.com only ships to the US and other regional Amazon.com sites such as Amazon.ca for Canada don't carry the same stock, even though both countries use the same consoles and software releases.

Found this out when I was going to buy Devil Summoner 2 just ONE MONTH after it was released. Amazon.ca had none in stock and every individual seller was marking it up at least $25-30 over retail value.

[Nephlabobo]

So with the announcement of the GoW collection that has GoW 1+2 on PS3 with HD resolution, 60 FPS and Trophy support would you guys buy an SMT collection on blu-ray having SMT: Nocturne, SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1+2 with HD resolution, locked at 60 FPS with Trophy Support?

No.

Why do we need the same games released over and over again.

You should have bought these games when they came out.

If you missed out, tough luck.

I would rather see Atlus focus on *new* content than rehashing the same stuff again and again.

And Amazon.ca is probably the worst online store I have ever dealt with.

Amazon.com screws Canada over by refusing to ship games there - and doesn't bother stocking Amazon.ca.

[urmean15]

You give me SMT 1, 2, If, 3, DDS 1+2, and hell, throw in one of the Devil Summoners that never got released, and you've got yourself a sale.

[Kromat]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

[Hamel]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

Why?as far as I know NINE sucked

[Vicious1915]

I agree with time and money being spent on SMT I, II, and If...

OH please dear sweet Jack bring us Shin Megami Tensei: If...

I've tried three different times to play that game in Japanese and it's just plain FAIL. PLEASE....I'll pay next gen prices for it, even. Just PLEASE PLEASE bring us Shin Megami Tensei: If...

*sob* *sob* *choke* *hysterical sob*

[TheDoctor]

^ If we just get SMT: If... and Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers I would be happy.

I hope Persona PSP was Atlus JP testing the the market to bring some ports of old games not a reaction to Persona 3's popularity.

I also hope that Atlus USA haven't lost the source key for Soul Hackers O_o.

[Quig]

Trophy/Achievement systems are a disease, not so much for single player experiences as online ones, but I miss the days when people set thier own goals for games instead of having some system of goals laid out for them.

Such systems seem to encourage more use of exploits and guides instead of exploration and discovery.

That aside, I'd rather just see digitally distributed versions so people can actually play these titles. Probably a ways off from happening, but I'd like some Nocturne on my PSP, I'm still fine with my PS2 version.

Trophy whores annoy me too...

[ShinGundam]

Dual Audio please ...

[Sleepless Neko]

If it has the older games in english then yeah and If they enhanched the older game... Hell yeah!

[Jackstar]

You know what? I'm going to do a 180 on my take with GoW Collection. After playing through it, I find it is indeed more than just simple upscaling. There is some good effort on upgrading the models and this is contrasted every time a cutscene (old, unimproved CG) takes place, and the new HD content takes over during the actual game play segments.

So yes, sign me up if there is a SMT collection that sees similar efforts in upgrading! I would love Nocturne, P3 and P4 to be displayed in true HD.

[Soushi_Grapple]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

I can understand w/DDS because its so rare.. but I'd love an exclusive Japan only collection that had Devil Summoner 1, 2, SMT 1, 2, If, P2:IS,.. I'd get those if they released them at all.

I don't think I'd buy an HD bundle as I dont have a PS3 or an HDTV... XD

[Tsuko]

They could make a complication, something like Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner and NINE (Japanese exclusive made into English, if demanded.).

I can understand w/DDS because its so rare.. but I'd love an exclusive Japan only collection that had Devil Summoner 1, 2, SMT 1, 2, If, P2:IS,.. I'd get those if they released them at all.

I don't think I'd buy an HD bundle as I dont have a PS3 or an HDTV... XD

It would be cool if this Collection did happen but it should have the NES Megami Tensei games on it as well and maybe the Last Bible games

[Xelloss]

I would def buy it. PS2 games look like crap on my LCD. Add some trophies, and a few little extras, would be a good lead-in to the next SMT games when they finally hit current gen consoles. They really should do 2, a SMT Nocturne/DDS set and a Persona 3/4 set.

[Oceanborn]

Yes I'd definately buy that, even though I have a backwards compatible PS3 and the PS2 games here. Most of the PAL PS2 SMT games offer an NTSC option, but the rest (DDS1 and the Personas) is pretty annoying... runs slower and is pressed flat. That alone would be a reason to buy a PS3 collection for a little money. Also, Devil Summoner 2 wasn't released in Europe and my old chipped PS2 died on me a couple months ago, just when I was going to buy the game. If that was included in some kind of collection, that alone would be reason enough for me to buy it.

[OceanMachine19]

I would most definitely make this a day one purchase if it did come out. I doubt many people on these boards would be terribly excited about it, as they more than likely have the originals. However, one thing that would personally have me, and more than likely anyone reading this, shaking with anticipation would be if they included translated versions of the old school SMT titles on a bonus DVD.

[Deified Data]

Yes. I would buy this.