Persona 3 Portable announced for PSP

[B.K.]

It has a brand new, female protagonist, so it looks like it isn't just a straight port of the game.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2e5nugz.jpg

[Iris]

I guess there's still milk left in the cash cow, huh.

[Yukichin]

I'm... really curious as to what on earth it is. Any news?


EDIT: I wonder if you can choose your gender. You can see P3MC in the shadow of what looks like female Orpheus...

[jj984jj]

I guess there's still milk left in the cash cow, huh.

That's basically what I thought too, and it'll inevitably be localized. You better localize Growlanser as well Atlus!

[Yukichin]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/563280.jpg?t=1250578070

[RV0LVr]

Hell yeah I can finally date some guys in persona!!!!!!! :eek:

seriously...I'd totally day one this though,as long as they don't outmilk this particular cow with P3P FES

[AdrianMorales]

Hell yeah I can finally date some guys in persona!!!!!!! :eek:

seriously...I'd totally day one this though,as long as they don't outmilk this particular cow with P3P FES

I take it you are quite excited about going on a man date:) Anyway, the game should be great. Here is hoping that P4 is next in line for the portable treatment.

[Yukichin]

According to people on GameFAQs:

-Characters are all controllable
-It is a port of P3
-Selectable gender of player, male or female, with several things unique to female and new additions to male
-5 difficulty levels
-Releases November 1

I wonder if you'll be able to date guys as the male protagonist, or if you have to stick to girls again. Either way, I'm really excited now.

[ila]

Please tell me you're taking that info with a grain of salt. It's GameFAQs. People say stuff.

[iloveatlus]

this is wonderful news, i cannot wait

[Hraesvelgr]

Oh, for the love of... Hopefully they'll at least make the game more tolerable to play. If there are no good combat/dungeon exploring improvements, I will absolutely not even touch this.

[Juanblue85]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2dmf668.jpg

[Andy]

If it has full party control, then hell yes.

[Juanblue85]

It appears it does you have the choice of AI or full party control like in P4.

[Enzeru]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2dmf668.jpg
I love that character art. I'll probably have to play the game twice just so I can do both genders. :p


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/563280.jpg?t=1250578070
I wish that picture was taken better, but the screens look like it's gonna be a full on thing. 3D battles and everything! This is awesome.

[jeffx]

My first thought was "too soon" but since this won't realistically be getting a US release until say, mid-2010, I guess it'll feel right then. So +1 support, although this thread is pretty futile. We ALL KNOW Atlus USA will take care of this.

(Sadly, at the expense of Growlanser PSP)

[RV0LVr]

I take it you are quite excited about going on a man date:) Anyway, the game should be great. Here is hoping that P4 is next in line for the portable treatment.

Well yes....but I might have over did it due to fangasm :tongue:

again...I shall support this! 8)

wow...my PSP game library is getting bigger thanks to Atlus,I never thought I'd see the day come

[Bluerfn]

Noooo......Atlus, you're draining my wallet!!!

...wait what, I don't have a PSP...

....

Noooo.... my wallet will be completely dry!!

[Haderach]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

[syl]

As much as I like Persona 3, this announcement isn't going to make me go buy a PSP.
The female MC is cute and her Orpheus has its own Beyonce-approved, wind machine.
I do like the innovations Atlus made for P3 PSP and hope those features over to Persona 5.

[slayn]

Horrible Atlus, just ####ing horrible.

-1 Sale for Persona PSP

I refuse to purchase any Atlus games until I hear about a Persona 2 port, this is one of the worst moves I have ever seen in gaming. I'm talking on the scale in comparison to companies like Working Designs.

[Flußkönig]

Ugh, having already played through P3 and FES I have absolutely no interest in this.

Also, I agree with Slayn 100%. It is really disappointing that Atlus is skipping P2 IS and EP for this junk. I was really looking forward to IS finally getting an official release in NA.

[Onion of Mystery]

Horrible Atlus, just ####ing horrible.

-1 Sale for Persona PSP

I refuse to purchase any Atlus games until I hear about a Persona 2 port, this is one of the worst moves I have ever seen in gaming. I'm talking on the scale in comparison to companies like Working Designs.

Is this you talking, or the guy you copy/pasted your post from in the other thread?

[slayn]

That would be a copy/paste.

[Zacewing]

If they make Shinji permanently playable, I weill be getting this day one.

[Fatney]

If they make Junpei datable, I'm going to buy this game EVEN HARDER.

[System_Error]

Although I'd rather have NEW games, I see where this is coming from as a business move. Still want P2 with IS&EP on 1 umd but thats not up to Atlus USA. So uh Atlus, do Growlanser first k.

[marche1990]

HELL YEAH!! finally an excuse to buy myself a psp (and the pair of persona titles :3) damn, I already want it xD
hopefully it will be released in january by these lands, as I can't get enough of the SMT series (seriously, just got nocturne and I'm loving it, and have already passed P3FES and P4... dang, no other series has gotten me as much as this one, and so fast in fact ¬¬)

[unknown]

Jesus christ

Persona 3 is now the FFVII of the SMT series.

I think I'm passing this one, unless Atlus announces SMTIV at the Tokyo Game Show.

[SlaughterX]

Already bought this game twice... I'll pass, 3rd time is not a charm in this case.

[Pibbman]

Hmm. I'll pass. I'm actually slightly disgusted by this move Atlus. Seriously, I don't think many will buy this for a 3rd time.

[Yukichin]

Please tell me you're taking that info with a grain of salt. It's GameFAQs. People say stuff.

Yes, but the person seems to be translating the article. Also, it was copy-pasted from a user at Neogaf.

What I want to know is if this will be P3, pr P3:FES.

[nbinney]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

uhhhhh, what?

Besides from P3P and FES(and at least they have new content), what other ports where there? Keep in mind that Persona PSP is a remake.

And if you want to get technical, every SMT game that's been released in America can be considered a spin-off, including Nocturne since it doesn't follow the original story.

[Pibbman]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

uhhhhh, what?

Besides from P3P and FES(and at least they have new content), what other ports where there? Keep in mind that Persona PSP is a remake.

And if you want to get technical, every SMT game that's been released in America can be considered a spin-off, including Nocturne since it doesn't follow the original story.

actually I kind of agree with him. That was the first thought that came to my mind, trust me its not a good one either. But its no real matter, not like im gonna buy it for a third time.

It almost seems like SE is making it acceptable in the industry for this type of thing.

[Tee23]

Well I'm not going to lie, I'm excited about this game. Sure milk the cow for what its worth, but jeeze, I found this series to be worth my while. Some may believe that I just may be pouring my money into a cash cow but, I believe that P3 has so much replay value that if there going to add a new stuff to it, I'll buy.

Though, if the PS2 had the functionality of DLC, P3 would be one ridicioulous JRPG in the market.

[satokiba]

I loved playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin, and I even liked Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, and I think if they're going to remake either of those, I'd rather have it in 3D with major changes, but the same story, but nothing will satisfy everyone. I'm so happy that they're doing this, and I'd be equally as happy, even if this was an announcement for Persona 1:FES PSP, or something. I love all of their games, and anything they put out, I'm going to love.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Considering I never completed the original P3 and watched my friends complete 3 and then FES, I'd probably play this just for the party control. I'm not digging the female character design, looks like a chopped up rehash of Rise.

Right now, I'd rather have P2 and Growlanser, but I would hope to get this released here eventually. It sounds like it has enough improvements to keep it interesting, but it really needs to have the FES content too.

[Saishu]

I'll take it. Though it would be more interesting if Yukari was playable.

[Zacewing]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

uhhhhh, what?

Besides from P3P and FES(and at least they have new content), what other ports where there? Keep in mind that Persona PSP is a remake.

And if you want to get technical, every SMT game that's been released in America can be considered a spin-off, including Nocturne since it doesn't follow the original story.

Uhh, no. The PSP version of Persona is a port. The gamerplay is pretty much the same as the original.

[Fatney]

It should have the content from FES, but I kinda doubt it since as far as I know FES already used about 4GB of the regular PS2 discs. But at least I hope they will vary what's already there, like exchange some social links, make ALL of your team members social links, and implement most of the gameplay changes from P4 in to P3. The ability to control your team members is already confirmed, so we can hope.

[RainbowDespair]

Fix my major problem with P3 (no direct control option), make it portable, add a female protagonist option along with new stuff? Yeah, I'll buy it.

[Ryo_Suzuki]

I'm buying this day 1.

So is this going to fit in one UMD? I think they can only hold 2.5 gb. Download only?

[Eggn0g]

If they make Junpei datable, I'm going to buy this game EVEN HARDER.

I would Day 1 the **** out of this game if you could date Junpei. With both male and female MCs <3

I really hope it's not exclusive to PSPGo though, that would suck.

[slayn]

It almost seems like SE is making it acceptable in the industry for this type of thing.

Wrong. The people that buy SE games are making it acceptable.

Uhh, no. The PSP version of Persona is a port. The gamerplay is pretty much the same as the original.

Also wrong. By your argument there is not a single game that has ever been remade since all the "remakes" have had the same gameplay as the original and are therefore ports.

Persona PSP is a remake.

[Crimson Cloud]

Female dating females anyone? :p

OK, so most of you played P3 and know the ending of this game, so I'm kinda wondering, won't it be a bit cruel having that same ending with female character? :confused:

[Ark]

It should have the content from FES, but I kinda doubt it since as far as I know FES already used about 4GB of the regular PS2 discs. But at least I hope they will vary what's already there, like exchange some social links, make ALL of your team members social links, and implement most of the gameplay changes from P4 in to P3. The ability to control your team members is already confirmed, so we can hope.

The game and FES were on the same disc, and the max I think a PS2 disc is capable of is 4GB.

[Ark]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

uhhhhh, what?

Besides from P3P and FES(and at least they have new content), what other ports where there? Keep in mind that Persona PSP is a remake.

And if you want to get technical, every SMT game that's been released in America can be considered a spin-off, including Nocturne since it doesn't follow the original story.

actually I kind of agree with him. That was the first thought that came to my mind, trust me its not a good one either. But its no real matter, not like im gonna buy it for a third time.

It almost seems like SE is making it acceptable in the industry for this type of thing.

Ill agree with you too, porting old games and polishing them is a pretty lame practice. I'd rather have the developers work on new games, rather than polishing up an 3 year old game. Assuming they sell it cheaper this time around, I'll buy it since FES was the first Atlus game I ever bought.

And I'd be surprised if a P4 port came out, especially when Atlus said at the time "No P4 FES is planned."

[Yukichin]

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

uhhhhh, what?

Besides from P3P and FES(and at least they have new content), what other ports where there? Keep in mind that Persona PSP is a remake.

And if you want to get technical, every SMT game that's been released in America can be considered a spin-off, including Nocturne since it doesn't follow the original story.

actually I kind of agree with him. That was the first thought that came to my mind, trust me its not a good one either. But its no real matter, not like im gonna buy it for a third time.

It almost seems like SE is making it acceptable in the industry for this type of thing.

Ill agree with you too, porting old games and polishing them is a pretty lame practice. I'd rather have the developers work on new games, rather than polishing up an 3 year old game. Assuming they sell it cheaper this time around, I'll buy it since FES was the first Atlus game I ever bought.

And I'd be surprised if a P4 port came out, especially when Atlus said at the time "No P4 FES is planned."

Well, it wouldn't exactly be a P4 FES. It'd just be a port of P4.

[Zacewing]

It almost seems like SE is making it acceptable in the industry for this type of thing.

Wrong. The people that buy SE games are making it acceptable.

Uhh, no. The PSP version of Persona is a port. The gamerplay is pretty much the same as the original.

Also wrong. By your argument there is not a single game that has ever been remade since all the "remakes" have had the same gameplay as the original and are therefore ports.

Persona PSP is a remake.

No, it's really not. The graphics are the exact same as the PS1 versuion, and so is the gameplay. The only difference between the two versions is that the PSP version has different music, and it has the new CG cutscenes. Everything else about the PSP version is exactly the same as the PS1 version.

[Enzeru]

And I wouldn't be surprised if a P4 port came out, even though Atlus said at the time "No P4 FES is planned."
This.

[iloveatlus]

Horrible Atlus, just ####ing horrible.

-1 Sale for Persona PSP

I refuse to purchase any Atlus games until I hear about a Persona 2 port, this is one of the worst moves I have ever seen in gaming. I'm talking on the scale in comparison to companies like Working Designs.

Is this you talking, or the guy you copy/pasted your post from in the other thread?

ban him plz, hes not loyal

[iloveatlus]

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/atlus-usa-understandably-silent-on-persona-3-psp-announcement--336.html

this is what atlus had to say " Nothing to discuss :) "

that means atlus is bring it to state

[slayn]

No, it's really not. The graphics are the exact same as the PS1 versuion, and so is the gameplay. The only difference between the two versions is that the PSP version has different music, and it has the new CG cutscenes. Everything else about the PSP version is exactly the same as the PS1 version.

Except the localization, which is being redone.

Also the inclusion of the content that was cut from the original (American) release.

And there are a fair number of graphical tweaks.

Also the new music and cut scenes you mentioned.

But yes, other than those major changes, this is exactly the same and totally a port.

[Olethros]

Hmm. I'll pass. I'm actually slightly disgusted by this move Atlus. Seriously, I don't think many will buy this for a 3rd time.


I never, ever in a million years thought I would be able to say this honestly, but here goes: I agree with Pibbman.

Uggh. That really was as distasteful as I thought it would be.

[slayn]

Horrible Atlus, just ####ing horrible.

-1 Sale for Persona PSP

I refuse to purchase any Atlus games until I hear about a Persona 2 port, this is one of the worst moves I have ever seen in gaming. I'm talking on the scale in comparison to companies like Working Designs.

Is this you talking, or the guy you copy/pasted your post from in the other thread?

ban him plz, hes not loyal

ban him plz, hes a sycophant

[Enzeru]

Difficulty Levels:

-Beginner
-Easy
-Normal
-Hard
-Maniacs

Maybe people would be exited if they called it Maniacs edition, like Nocturne. :/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175637

[Hraesvelgr]

If they make Junpei datable, I'm going to buy this game EVEN HARDER.Yeah, for me, it'd be the opposite. Be better if it was an optional thing, like with P4, because I hate Junpei... and most of P3's male cast, now that I think of it...

Jesus christ

Persona 3 is now the FFVII of the SMT series.I have to agree with that, especially when you consider that P3 is what got a lot of SMT players into the series, much like FFVII did back in the day. Even if the scale is considerably smaller.

OK, so most of you played P3 and know the ending of this game, so I'm kinda wondering, won't it be a bit cruel having that same ending with female character? :confused:So it's cruel when it's a female character, but okay with a male? What?

Except the localization, which is being redone.

Also the inclusion of the content that was cut from the original (American) release.

And there are a fair number of graphical tweaks.

Also the new music and cut scenes you mentioned.

But yes, other than those major changes, this is exactly the same and totally a port.The first two hardly qualify it as a remake, especially the latter if you've already played the Japanese version.

The graphical tweaks aren't really major.

New music that's more repetitive and done supposedly for the sake of loading doesn't really make me think "remake". Not to mention there's less music.

I can agree with the cutscenes, but all in all, I wouldn't consider any of these "major" changes. To be honest, I'd consider it more of a touched up, dumbed down port with minor "improvements", but I believe they call this sort of thing an "enhanced port". FFIIIDS and FFIVDS are remakes. I would barely consider Persona PSP more than a port.

[iammako3]

I'll buy it! However, I will be super-excited if you can date boys. SMT games have a distinct lack of dating boys. . . (save Innocent Sin, of course)

[Muckamuck]

I found the announcement rather interesting, yet strange. Interesting in that I kinda expected it with the surge in RPGs for PSP over the past year, and strange in that it's Persona 3 again. On a PSP. While invoking Rule 63.

I can understand a PSP port, but then the game would need even more streamlining. More save points? Save anywhere? Shorter blocks?

The inclusion of the female protagonist for the PSP version strikes me as something Atlus was going to do in the first place but didn't quite flesh out, but that's just me taking a look at the concept art again.

[TheDoctor]

Here I was hoping that the next port would've been Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers.

It seems like 3 versions of a recently released game is a little too much. I'm probably of the minority that thought playing Persona 3 once or twice was enough.

We've got SMT: Strange Journey so it's not so bad.

[Fatney]

It should have the content from FES, but I kinda doubt it since as far as I know FES already used about 4GB of the regular PS2 discs. But at least I hope they will vary what's already there, like exchange some social links, make ALL of your team members social links, and implement most of the gameplay changes from P4 in to P3. The ability to control your team members is already confirmed, so we can hope.

The game and FES were on the same disc, and the max I think a PS2 disc is capable of is 4GB.

That's what I meant, if they are to include the original game, FES and the extra stuff that's going to be in the portable version, they would most probably have to downgrade graphics a lot to fit a UMD.



OK, so most of you played P3 and know the ending of this game, so I'm kinda wondering, won't it be a bit cruel having that same ending with female character? :confused:So it's cruel when it's a female character, but okay with a male? What?


I think he meant that it's already been spoiled what's going to happen with the girl.

[thealchemistoftime]

wait a sec the hairpins on the female mc are shaped like the number XXII i thought fool was 0

[Zacewing]

No, it's really not. The graphics are the exact same as the PS1 versuion, and so is the gameplay. The only difference between the two versions is that the PSP version has different music, and it has the new CG cutscenes. Everything else about the PSP version is exactly the same as the PS1 version.

Except the localization, which is being redone.

Also the inclusion of the content that was cut from the original (American) release.

And there are a fair number of graphical tweaks.

Also the new music and cut scenes you mentioned.

But yes, other than those major changes, this is exactly the same and totally a port.

Yeah, but the first two don't really count because the game originated in Japan and thus the first two don't apply there. Just because it has a redone localization and they decided to include the Snow Queen Quest this time around doesn't make it a "remake" for us and a "port" for Japan.

[Iris]

wait a sec the hairpins on the female mc are shaped like the number XXII i thought fool was 0

Some interpretations of the tarot place the Fool at the end, rather than the beginning.

[Eggn0g]

http://www.gamingunion.net/news/atlus-usa-understandably-silent-on-persona-3-psp-announcement--336.html

this is what atlus had to say " Nothing to discuss :) "

that means atlus is bring it to state

Yeah, I think that was bound to happen anyway. It's Persona for Gods sake.

[Zacewing]

wait a sec the hairpins on the female mc are shaped like the number XXII i thought fool was 0

Some interpretations of the tarot place the Fool at the end, rather than the beginning.

I think XXII might be either the Aeon arcana or the Universe arcana?

[PainKilleR-[CE]]

I can understand a PSP port, but then the game would need even more streamlining. More save points? Save anywhere? Shorter blocks?

If you flick the power switch on the PSP it goes to sleep and you can just resume from where you left off later. They don't really need to change anything, though it might be helpful for some people if they did.

wait a sec the hairpins on the female mc are shaped like the number XXII i thought fool was 0

Some interpretations of the tarot place the Fool at the end, rather than the beginning.

I think XXII might be either the Aeon arcana or the Universe arcana?

The number XXII on the Fool is usually attributed to Belgian decks, but is more common in modern decks than it was in the past (and it was more common not to number it than to give it either XXII or 0). The numbering has more to do with the role it plays than anything else, though, so it could be said that by choosing XXII, they're choosing a stronger role for the Fool than they would with 0.

On the other hand, the Tarot is often interpreted as the Fool's journey, wherein the Fool would progress from 0 to XXII, transforming from nothing to the highest of trump cards.

[satokiba]

When it's said the "story changes" for the female, I wonder if they mean like, plot change, or character changes? I wonder what could be different, OH. And does this mean Ryoji will be female, and look like the female protoganist?! And what about the Yukari shower scene? Or the hot springs! What about going to the female hot springs?

[SickleCellAnemia]

And what about the Yukari shower scene?

Junpei shower scene all but confirmed???:devil:

[Enzeru]

And what about the Yukari shower scene?

Junpei shower scene all but confirmed???:devil:
Pssh, Akihiko all the way.

[Ark]

It should have the content from FES, but I kinda doubt it since as far as I know FES already used about 4GB of the regular PS2 discs. But at least I hope they will vary what's already there, like exchange some social links, make ALL of your team members social links, and implement most of the gameplay changes from P4 in to P3. The ability to control your team members is already confirmed, so we can hope.

The game and FES were on the same disc, and the max I think a PS2 disc is capable of is 4GB.

That's what I meant, if they are to include the original game, FES and the extra stuff that's going to be in the portable version, they would most probably have to downgrade graphics a lot to fit a UMD.



Well it wont be much of a loss if they had to downgrade graphics. What you are thinking of makes as much sense as trying to watch a 1080p movie on a 4" screen. It may be better quality, but you won't be able to appreciate the difference in quality on such a small screen.

[Ark]

When it's said the "story changes" for the female, I wonder if they mean like, plot change, or character changes? I wonder what could be different, OH. And does this mean Ryoji will be female, and look like the female protoganist?! And what about the Yukari shower scene? Or the hot springs! What about going to the female hot springs?

I guessing things like that will be written from a female's point of view. I'd doubt they would re-write so much script and re-do all those animations.

[Enzeru]

On the space issue, cutting out the voice acting would take out a sizable chunk of the size of the game.

[Nephlabobo]

I wanted Innocent Sin.

This seems like a cash grab. :(

Nowadays Atlus = Square Enix

ports and more ports, spin offs and more spin off... this is boring.

That's not quite fair considering we got Devil Summoner 2 and Devil Survivor in the same year, and we're likely getting Strange Journey next year.

I do agree that there's too much milking of P3 though.

The PSP deserves better than ports only.

[satokiba]

When it's said the "story changes" for the female, I wonder if they mean like, plot change, or character changes? I wonder what could be different, OH. And does this mean Ryoji will be female, and look like the female protoganist?! And what about the Yukari shower scene? Or the hot springs! What about going to the female hot springs?

I guessing things like that will be written from a female's point of view. I'd doubt they would re-write so much script and re-do all those animations.


Well, awhile back, Sony SUPPOSEDLY said as a rule of thumb for remakes, that x amount of percent would be new content. I wonder if they'll use the Reincarnation soundtrack for it? And they're going to have to change a little bit to even be from a female's point of view. The beach scenes, the hotsprings, some of the other things that are specifically for male. Like, what about Mianto's room placement, aren't the males on one floor, and the females on another?

Furthermore, I wonder what her "official" name, will be? I'm thinking about naming her Minato Arisato, just because.

[satokiba]

I wanted Innocent Sin.

The PSP deserves better than ports only.

I think they should remake Innocent Sin completely, instead of porting it like they did Persona. I'd love to see the characters with 3D models, in a 3D enviroment, the dungeons, especially the last one, would be so awesome to look at.

And the PSP DOES deserve more than ports or even remakes. I want a new SMT game for PSP, and I want some kind of Persona VS/Persona fighter. :/

[Nephlabobo]

If there's a P4 port, I'm going to be pissed.

New content for PSP please.

[Kenji]

Well, I have a few thoughts on this...

1) I did not see this coming... at the very least, not so soon.

2) I predict both episodes of P2 showing up on the PSP at some point, though I would've rather those come out before P3P.

3) It looks like the portable-exclusive generation of MegaTen is all but confirmed. P5 may find its home on the PSP, too. I wouldn't complain.

4) The only reason I'm considering buying it is the female protagonist. Hopefully, there'll be enough changes to the flow of the story and gameplay to justify this. I'll probably never play the male character on this version unless the additions to his scenario are significant.

5) Finally, we will be able to enter the Junpei Zone.

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

I'm really excited to play this...it may be that I never actually played Persona 3 that makes me so excited though. I played (and loved) P4 but didn't want to downgrade controls, so I never played 3. But this makes me want it really bad.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Didnt see anyone discussing this yet:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/563280.jpg?t=1250578070

[Reynard]

Huh. I admit I'm curious about how the plot tweaks would go. But not enough to play the game yet again. Hell, I've got enough of an Atlus backlog as it is. I suppose that if they release a few games that I don't want, I'll have more time to work through it. :)

[satokiba]

Didnt see anyone discussing this yet:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/563280.jpg?t=1250578070

Male Elizabeth? Hm. I feel that..that IS Elizabeth herself, and the actual entity that is her, is like a genderless thing. Maybe? Or maybe they just changed it for fanservice reasons. :( He's really cute, though. It'll suck if it's just for the female protagonist... if you're able to choose her gender as well, then I'll be happy. Also, I didn't think of it before, but what about the MMO? Does Female MC become Maya, and find her own little Tatsuya in the game? Does that mean she has a male teacher, then? And what about Chidori with Junpei x Female MC, and what about Kenji as a datable character, and his teacher-ness? And...what if they make Tanaka datable?! I doubt it, though.

[Soushi_Grapple]

satokiba, I'm sure the Manzabeth/Elizabito as he's been called is exclusive to the Female's story, considering the Velvet Room is of your own mind. That's why Belladonna was replaced, theoretically.

I'm wondering if the male and female MCs will interact myself; not on a huge level, but since there are some plot changes (minor as they may be at the moment), who knows?

[Zacewing]

And what about the Yukari shower scene?

Junpei shower scene all but confirmed???:devil:
Pssh, Akihiko all the way.

I agree with this post.

[satokiba]

satokiba, I'm sure the Manzabeth/Elizabito as he's been called is exclusive to the Female's story, considering the Velvet Room is of your own mind. That's why Belladonna was replaced, theoretically.

I'm wondering if the male and female MCs will interact myself; not on a huge level, but since there are some plot changes (minor as they may be at the moment), who knows?

So, er, Elizabeth = Belladonna? Or is it like, everyone that appears within the Velvet Room, isn't existent at all, and just reflections of the mind? Are you projecting yourself onto an entity, or separate entities, or is it just you seeing yourself, or...what?

Also, I was wondering that too, but doesn't that mean they'll have to create personalities and names for both characters? I think it's just going to be an alternate universe for either choice.

[iammako3]

Didnt see anyone discussing this yet:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/563280.jpg?t=1250578070

*whistles* Hello hotness! I hope the release comes with an artbook!

[ProudClod]

I just started another replay of P3FES, and was missing all the awesome additions of Persona 4.

I'll stop my playthrough, and wait for this to get localized. Day one. :)

[pariah164]

Hell to the no.

Smiling Protagonist, PINK Orpheus with a heart shaped bow, male Elizabeth...

No. No no no. I'm not buying another Atlus game unless they bring Persona 2 Innocent Sin over in some form. I hate this so, so much.

[Yukichin]

Hell to the no.

Smiling Protagonist, PINK Orpheus with a heart shaped bow, male Elizabeth...

No. No no no. I'm not buying another Atlus game unless they bring Persona 2 Innocent Sin over in some form. I hate this so, so much.

Er... there IS the fan translation...

[Ark]

I wanted Innocent Sin.

The PSP deserves better than ports only.

I think they should remake Innocent Sin completely, instead of porting it like they did Persona. I'd love to see the characters with 3D models, in a 3D enviroment, the dungeons, especially the last one, would be so awesome to look at.

And the PSP DOES deserve more than ports or even remakes. I want a new SMT game for PSP, and I want some kind of Persona VS/Persona fighter. :/

Come to think about it, a SMT fighter of some sort would be a really good game, assuming that they make characters like Raidou, Jack Frost and Lucifer playable...

[Ark]

Hell to the no.

Smiling Protagonist, PINK Orpheus with a heart shaped bow, male Elizabeth...

No. No no no. I'm not buying another Atlus game unless they bring Persona 2 Innocent Sin over in some form. I hate this so, so much.

And I wouldn't waste my money on IS/EP unless there's significant changes/extras to it.

[DrJonAngus]

Hm... very interesting, but I don't think I'd want to start my game from scratch. I just beat Persona 3: FES about 3-4 weeks ago so it might be that I think it is too soon to even think about another play through right now. I think this is a bit too much for a game to have 3 releases in a couple year span. Don't get me wrong, this port is actually sweetening the deal of getting a PSP, but just a tiny bit. I think it would be nice to play on a long trip somewhere if I didn't have anything else to play. I definitely want Persona 2: Eternal Punishment and Innocent Sin a million times more in any case. I hear they are the best Persona games, so I'm heavily anticipating a release. I think this is just fan service, which isn't a bad thing, but not everybody wants to buy Persona 3 again. I'm glad a lot of you are happy, but as somebody who is somewhat new to the series, I really would like to see the other Shin Megami Tensei games re-released and other various ideas. I personally like the dark setting of Nocturne and DDS, so I'd like to see Atlus expand on those type of games instead of porting over Persona 3 to the PSP.

[Gogmagog]

I don't miss a IS/EP port that much. What really annoyed me about P1/P2 was the horribly complicated negotiation system. I had to do trial and errors and keep a huge list of the responses that worked. If I was to ever buy a update of P2, it would have to have something that streamlined the process.

[AdrianMorales]

According to RPGfan, 'Persona 3 Portable will only include the original game, and not The Answer portion of Persona 3: FES'.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2009/410.html

[Kenji]

What really annoyed me about P1/P2 was the horribly complicated negotiation system.
Really? I felt like I could set my watch to it.

Unlike the main series contact system, P2's was so simplified and consistent that it felt like another weakness-exploitation battle system... except I got tarot cards instead of EXP. That actually made it very boring to me.

Contrast that to Shin Megami Tensei, which I'm finally playing through seriously. While there are patterns, I still have to stay on my toes for those times things don't go as planned... especially around female demons, can't seem to get those down to a real pattern...

[Manic Expressive]

Hm... very interesting, but I don't think I'd want to start my game from scratch. I just beat Persona 3: FES about 3-4 weeks ago so it might be that I think it is too soon to even think about another play through right now. I think this is a bit too much for a game to have 3 releases in a couple year span. Don't get me wrong, this port is actually sweetening the deal of getting a PSP, but just a tiny bit. I think it would be nice to play on a long trip somewhere if I didn't have anything else to play. I definitely want Persona 2: Eternal Punishment and Innocent Sin a million times more in any case. I hear they are the best Persona games, so I'm heavily anticipating a release. I think this is just fan service, which isn't a bad thing, but not everybody wants to buy Persona 3 again. I'm glad a lot of you are happy, but as somebody who is somewhat new to the series, I really would like to see the other Shin Megami Tensei games re-released and other various ideas. I personally like the dark setting of Nocturne and DDS, so I'd like to see Atlus expand on those type of games instead of porting over Persona 3 to the PSP.

This goes to all the fans with a similar or mutual feeling on this; more than ever come show your support!

http://atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=129241

[Crimson Cloud]

So it's cruel when it's a female character, but okay with a male? What?.

Easy there pal, don't put your thoughts in meaning of my sentences. I think that it's cruel ether way but much more for female lead, so I'm expecting them to tweak some things. With two playable characters means that lots of stuff will be cut off no doubt, especially with S.Links.

[Nephlabobo]

I wanted Innocent Sin.

The PSP deserves better than ports only.

I think they should remake Innocent Sin completely, instead of porting it like they did Persona. I'd love to see the characters with 3D models, in a 3D enviroment, the dungeons, especially the last one, would be so awesome to look at.

And the PSP DOES deserve more than ports or even remakes. I want a new SMT game for PSP, and I want some kind of Persona VS/Persona fighter. :/

Come to think about it, a SMT fighter of some sort would be a really good game, assuming that they make characters like Raidou, Jack Frost and Lucifer playable...

Ugh. No.

Don't want a remake, don't want a fighting game.

All I want is a nice official version of Persona 2: IS.

[nbinney]

I want a new SMT game for PSP, and I want some kind of Persona VS/Persona fighter. :/

Come to think about it, a SMT fighter of some sort would be a really good game, assuming that they make characters like Raidou, Jack Frost and Lucifer playable...

I already played such a game, it was called Arcana Heart :-p

[Fatney]

It should have the content from FES, but I kinda doubt it since as far as I know FES already used about 4GB of the regular PS2 discs. But at least I hope they will vary what's already there, like exchange some social links, make ALL of your team members social links, and implement most of the gameplay changes from P4 in to P3. The ability to control your team members is already confirmed, so we can hope.

The game and FES were on the same disc, and the max I think a PS2 disc is capable of is 4GB.

That's what I meant, if they are to include the original game, FES and the extra stuff that's going to be in the portable version, they would most probably have to downgrade graphics a lot to fit a UMD.



Well it wont be much of a loss if they had to downgrade graphics. What you are thinking of makes as much sense as trying to watch a 1080p movie on a 4" screen. It may be better quality, but you won't be able to appreciate the difference in quality on such a small screen.

P3 didn't exactly PUSH the PS2 graphically, it's mostly the art direction that made it seem so fresh and good. Honestly, the graphics seemed like a very good PSP game. So with a "large" graphical downgrade, it might look pretty bad. My guess is that they will exclude most of the FES-stuff, especially "The Answer", so PS2 still has its own version.

And what about the Yukari shower scene?

Junpei shower scene all but confirmed???:devil:
Pssh, Akihiko all the way.

Oh god, I didn't think of that. But yes, Akihiko is the more smooth guy, so he will probably be in the shower (if that scene will still exist), sadly... STUPID SEXY JUNPEI.

And as some of you mentioned, the hot springs and so on... That was totally made for guys, so in the female part of the game I bet you're going to spot the guys and be all mad like the rest of the girls. As for the beach dating, you're probably going on a stroll with the girls in the woods instead.

[Soushi_Grapple]

According to RPGfan, 'Persona 3 Portable will only include the original game, and not The Answer portion of Persona 3: FES'.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2009/410.html

Meh, I hate Aegis anyway. So this works for me.

I really want P2 PSP but as I stated in another topic, this could be making the money needed for such a port or even something as triumphant as SMT IV, P5, or more freakin' spin offs. XD

[Kenji]

Actually, now that I think of it, a female Orpheus has precedence in the series (I recall seeing complaints on that, somewhere).

In P2, Eros is depicted as female, presumably because of Lisa.

[Liquid Fire]

According to RPGfan, 'Persona 3 Portable will only include the original game, and not The Answer portion of Persona 3: FES'.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2009/410.html

The Answer is not being included? Well, I guess I'll just skip P3P and just wait until P3P: FES comes out.

[Kain Mare]

^ Heh... that could be a possibility... as downloadable content. :| But then again, that's thinking too far ahead, imo.

[Inzaghi]

Actually, now that I think of it, a female Orpheus has precedence in the series (I recall seeing complaints on that, somewhere).

In P2, Eros is depicted as female, presumably because of Lisa.

I've never seen anyone be overly bothered that Mara is male, either.

[Tears of Ash]

I am somewhat excited at this announcement. I never beat P3 or P3FES because I think I have concentration issues with RPGs these days, but I always tend to finish portable RPGs.

And perhaps with cwcheat.prx on my psp it won't take an ungodly amount of hours to get everything there is to get in the game.

[Gogmagog]

I wonder if there will be gender-flips for everyone in your party? I hope Mitsuru/Yukari stay the same since the MC could do a big sister/listtle sister relationship going.

[nbinney]

Actually, now that I think of it, a female Orpheus has precedence in the series (I recall seeing complaints on that, somewhere).

Maybe P3P will pull a Digital Devil Saga and merge the male and female characters together.

[satokiba]

Actually, now that I think of it, a female Orpheus has precedence in the series (I recall seeing complaints on that, somewhere).

In P2, Eros is depicted as female, presumably because of Lisa.

I've never seen anyone be overly bothered that Mara is male, either.

Mara isn't male? It's neither gender, it's just a giant phallus because of the Japanese play on words. Does being a giant wee-wee count as being male? ._. Really, do ANY of the Persona have any definite gender?

Edit: And er, Mara, would be the demon that tried to tempt Buddha, a male demon, so why would anyone protest about "his" gender being "male"? I don't think it's referring to any of the female Gods with the same name.

[Gen Eric Gui]

The only demon whose gender ever bothered me was Vile Arioch. That's supposed to be a guy? Riiiiight.


For anybody who is interested, I wrote an entire freakin' essay on my main issues with P3P. It's up at Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Gen+Eric+Gui/why-i-think-p3p-is-a-bad-idea-145042.phtml). Yeah, it sounds horrible at the start, but read it all the way through before you start sending me hate mail.

[Enzeru]

For anybody who is interested, I wrote an entire freakin' essay on my main issues with P3P. It's up at Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Gen+Eric+Gui/why-i-think-p3p-is-a-bad-idea-145042.phtml). Yeah, it sounds horrible at the start, but read it all the way through before you start sending me hate mail.
Nice article. I never really thought about how you meet Aigis and how Junpei etc. can't be date-able because other people take their S.Links. Less incentive to play as Minako, lol (plus no Kenji. :[). I also really agree with the whole Commands menu thing. That's why I hate when people complain about that. I only ever specified everything for every character in boss battles in P4.

[brigadeleader]

I've been reading a lot about this new port and I can't wait till Atlus releases this state side! :D

[brigadeleader]

Edit: nvm missed that it was posted... ^_^; feel pretty stupid now...

[Enzeru]

I don't really like the P4 movement, and now it seems to be forced...


BETTER SCANS!
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/1250718854741.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/New3.jpg?t=1250730050
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/1250718712963.jpg?t=1250722945
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/New4.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/page1.jpg

[brigadeleader]

Are you talking about the square button movement?

I'm not really sure I understand how this games movement goes...

Is it cycle and press like Devil Survivor? or do you move about the area and press a button when you want to go somewhere else?

[Enzeru]

Yeah. Here's some stuff I found, mostly from neoGAF.

"...seems like they've taken out complete free-roaming after the shcool hours, instead you'll browse menu's to select where you want to go and who you want to talk to (i-e most non-dungeon stuff is sprites and pre-rendered images, probably to save UMD space), and not actual textured area's."

[brigadeleader]

Hmm, Interesting...

Well so long as they keep the NPC conversations intact I won't mind much.

Is there any word on the new Maniacs mode?

[Enzeru]

From what I've heard, if you NG+ on it, nothing carries over but your name.

[brigadeleader]

From the looks of things they'll probably cut voices from most of the game to save space.

But, since they've casted a voice actress for the new female character I wonder if battle voices will remain intact.

[Kenji]

Well, let's see...

Yeah, it looks like out-of-Tartaros interactions will be handled by menus... though, irony of ironies, those sprites in the classroom and mall almost make it look like P2. :P

Female protagonist has her own combat stances, and they ("they" from one example, I know) certainly give off a different vibe from her male counterpart, just like her appearance. I have a hard time believing this girl will do things in the same manner he did or elicit the same reactions from her comrades. It goes beyond gender.

I do hope that this is reflected in her scenario, along with the exposed player/slut double standard (i.e. they had better not automatically restrict her to one and/or zero boyfriends).

I know it's fifteen years too late for this to be a viable comparison, but does anyone know how different the dialogue was in Shin Megami Tensei if..., depending on whether the protagonist was male or female?

[Enzeru]

Was this in the PS2 version? I can't see it in FES...Jobs, maybe?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/PersonaPSP.png

[brigadeleader]

Was this in the PS2 version? I can't see it in FES...Jobs, maybe?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/PersonaPSP.png

Maybe... I just checked both Vanilla and FES and didn't see any board.

If it is part-time jobs then I wonder what they could be for? :question:

A new S-Link? or would it be just for money and an increase in parameters?

[Eggn0g]

Kenji beat me to it, I was just about to say that the out-of-dungeon screens looked a bit like Persona 2 XP

The board is new, looks like some of that 'extra content'. I'd assume the part-time jobs come with social links, since money alone wasn't much of an issue in Persona 3.

The female character does defenatly give of a different vibe to the male MC, I have a feeling that she'll have different dialouge choices as well.

Although it's not entierly clear, the game seems to be holding up very well graphically, although I am a bit worried about framerate/slowdown issues.

The only thing that's really bothering me is the female characters menu colours - I think purple would have been better.

[Emilio Morales]

I don't really like the P4 movement, and now it seems to be forced...


BETTER SCANS!
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/1250718854741.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/New3.jpg?t=1250730050
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/1250718712963.jpg?t=1250722945
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/New4.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/opfer_gv/page1.jpg

Thanks for the scans. But for what I can see, the conversation mechanic remains me of Devil Survivor. Looks promising. :)

[Soushi_Grapple]

I think the female MC should've looked more dark. She is totally throwing off the vibe of the game for me right now. ;o;

[satokiba]

Female protagonist has her own combat stances, and they certainly give off a different vibe from her male counterpart, just like her appearance. I have a hard time believing this girl will do things in the same manner he did or elicit the same reactions from her comrades. It goes beyond gender.


You're a badddd person for judging a book by its cover! I mean, c'mon...she could be an eating machine, lazy, super-charming, slut who...wait. :/ You're right, it doesn't work. People with their double standards, wouldn't like a girl with the same "personality" as Male. Regardless, I guess it's that Fool arcana thing, the ability to be everything and nothing at the same time that Atlus wants you to believe made everyone react that way with the main character.

But there's still hope! Learning that the 3D, big, textured areas have been replaced with choices and menus, is actually good news, because the more room they have to change her story, the more it will make sense. And hopefully Man-Elizabeth is a sign of the many changes they will include. Because if they changed a "small" detail like Elizabeth's gender, don't you think they HAVE to change the glaring things?

[jj984jj]

Video clips: http://www.famitsu.com/blog/p3p/1226724_2045.html

Outside of Tartarus is indeed static with cursor movement now. The camera was already a bit tough sometimes in the PS2 version, I guess at least they're designing this port with PSP in mind and making it faster.

[Enzeru]

Video clips: http://www.famitsu.com/blog/p3p/1226724_2045.html

Outside of Tartarus is indeed static with cursor movement now. The camera was already a bit tough sometimes in the PS2 version, I guess at least they're designing this port with PSP in mind and making it faster.
Nice find. I wanna hear more of the BGM, but oh well. The interface is also a lot smoother than I expected, so I'm not really complaining anymore. I didn't think you'd use a cursor. Also, since they kept in Fuuka asking how you've been as voiced, I hope the rest of the game is voiced as much as in the original.

[nbinney]

Outside of Tartarus is indeed static with cursor movement now. The camera was already a bit tough sometimes in the PS2 version, I guess at least they're designing this port with PSP in mind and making it faster.

Phantasy Star Portible did this was well, and I found it a lot easier to get to the action instead of wasting time running around an over-sized city.

[Emilio Morales]

Wow, that's looks amazing! And it's true what nbinney said about Phantasy Star Portable, you can go to the action really quick instead of wasting time on traveling. I do feel like a little bit of Devil Survivor in it, which is a good thing for me. Day 1 for me!! :D

EDIT: But I want to hear something about Strange Jurney first, Atlus. ;)

[unknown]

Ugh that first bgm that plays on the first video, is terrible.

[Kenji]

Well, I'm replaying P3F, right now... and wandering the town on foot can get pretty irritating when you do it everyday. I know it's part of the illusion, but I think I can part with it.

The new soundtrack is interesting, I wonder it's just for the female scenario or both?

And Social Link with Ken? Cool.

As for the combat, I could've easily fooled myself into believing I was looking at P4, especially once the battle ended. It's nice that they're bringing the combat advancements in, not that I had much of anything to complain about in P3.

[Eggn0g]

Ugh that first bgm that plays on the first video, is terrible.

I dont mind it tbh. The second school BGM in the PS2 games was much, much worse.

[Andrew_Fireborn]

I never finished the copy of FES I have... exactly because of the lack of party control turning them into more of a liability than an asset while dungeon crawling.

It'd be interesting if they -could- fit FES into it. Though I hope it's not for Download, I loathe the thought of the PSPGo, and I hope it crashes and burns because no one's released anything it can use.

I can understand a PSP port, but then the game would need even more streamlining. More save points? Save anywhere? Shorter blocks? I can't see the Tartarus blocks really taking up that much data. Outside the boss floors, and the "You've gone as far as we'll let you for now" floors, the randomization would reduce them to a set of rules. And I really can't see a table of data taking up more room, floor per floor, than a fully mapped one. Even the boss floors were made of the same 'tiles' as are used in the random floors.

Though we might see less variation in the floor's skins.

[unknown]

Ugh that first bgm that plays on the first video, is terrible.

I dont mind it tbh. The second school BGM in the PS2 games was much, much worse.

I like the second school BGM a lot more.

[satokiba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGz2iUgDhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNahc3Twqws

I uploaded them to YouTube, in case the site didn't work for anyone, and to spread the love around. 8D

[Fatney]

It's good that there's new BGM (at least in some parts). I think this game will feel "reborn" maybe, with a new character, every team member is now a social link etc. I kinda wished for P2 portable more, but honestly, I've fantasized about this too.

[Zacewing]

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?

[Onion of Mystery]

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?

This is possibly the wierdest thing I have heard someone complain about regarding the information available.

So far.

[Eggn0g]

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?

It makes sense imo - it's not like there's much to look at on the screen.

[Yukichin]

I like having the protagonist's portrait on the side of the screen.

Also, why are some of the characters in white for part of the game?

[Soushi_Grapple]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGz2iUgDhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNahc3Twqws

I uploaded them to YouTube, in case the site didn't work for anyone, and to spread the love around. 8D

You get free hugs and a cookie. I'm checking these out as soon as my gf gets home with her iphone. Sounds awesome.

[Liquid Fire]

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?

I'm going to have to agree with you. I would prefer the portraits to be were they should be, on the right.

[marche1990]

ehhh... I think that that video confirmed a S.Link or two on the female side (or at least it seems, and besides the Ken one)
Junpei seems to have a (!) icon above, and the pattern to answer what he ask seems the same of the S.Links, just like Yukari
also, I liked the new music x3

[Kenji]

Also, other screenshots have shown Chihiro talking to the male protagonist, and she shares the Justice Arcana with Ken. Kenji is also shown in male scenario screenshots. That leaves two possibilities:

1) The female protagonist will feature the male allies as S. Links, replacing their traditional counterparts, who will remain available to the male protagonist. This is the most likely.

2) Multiple characters per Arcana... and only some Arcana, which will only serve to complicate the S. Link process.

[nbinney]

Wow, that's looks amazing! And it's true what nbinney said about Phantasy Star Portable, you can go to the action really quick instead of wasting time on traveling.

I didn't mind it in Persona 3, it's just that cities in Phantasy Star Universe were too damn big and it'd be easy to get lost between the item store and the mission center. At least in P3 the most spread out points were just S.Links.

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?
I agree, it's just unusual. Again, pointing to Phantasy Star Portable, the character images were in the middle but they were from the waste up and took up most of the screen so it looked closer to normal.

[iammako3]

So, the video showed the game being played on a PSPGo. That makes me wonder if P3P will be a Go-only title. That would take the restrictions on memory away. But. . . then I'd have to buy a Go. I like my UMD-style PSP. :-(

[Crabman]

Is it just me, or does this iteration almost seem more pop-art than Persona 3? The music, the dialouge and interaction system - the streamlined changes makes it seem more plastic than the original P3. I don't really have qualms with that, given that the sharp ironies of P3 (compared to P4 or even other SMT games, relatively stereotypical characters which you have to care for, for example) made it more enjoyable for me.

[Nephlabobo]

Unless there's something truly groundbreaking, there's not enough incentive for me to pick this up a third time.

I'm not a fan of double dipping (Metal Gear Solid games irritate me with that) and TRIPLE dipping is just a slap in the face to fans. Especially in such a short amount of time.

And I'm peed off that Innocent Sin got passed over.

[Zacewing]

Eww, the dialogue portraits are in the middle of the screen now?

This is possibly the wierdest thing I have heard someone complain about regarding the information available.

So far.

It just looks weird to me. Probably because I'm just too used to having the portraits off to the right.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I never finished the copy of FES I have... exactly because of the lack of party control turning them into more of a liability than an asset while dungeon crawling.

And again, I do not understand this sentiment AT ALL. I mean, the game even tells you how to use the commands tab in the battle menu. Do people just forget about it? If you tell Yukari to heal/support, she will heal you! If you tell Junpei to knock enemies down, if he meets enemies that are weak to fire he will cast Agi on them! This is not a terribly difficult concept.

[Pichu0102]

Can't say I'm a fan of not being able to just walk around and explore outside of the dungeon. Plus how are we going to run around with our hands in our pockets now?

[StrikeRaider]

Need to chill Gen. People will always be retarded or just hate not being able to tell what their party members what to do. Honestly the only annoying one is Mitsuru. But putting her on full assault usually rectifies this.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I'm just sick of hearing it. I know I'm not the only person who figured this out, but a lot of the time it feels like it.

Anyway, I wrote a guide (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Gen+Eric+Gui/public-service-announcement-how-to-control-your-allies-actions-in-battle-in-persona-3-145260.phtml). Everyone can has.

[satokiba]

Also, other screenshots have shown Chihiro talking to the male protagonist, and she shares the Justice Arcana with Ken. Kenji is also shown in male scenario screenshots. That leaves two possibilities:

1) The female protagonist will feature the male allies as S. Links, replacing their traditional counterparts, who will remain available to the male protagonist. This is the most likely.

2) Multiple characters per Arcana... and only some Arcana, which will only serve to complicate the S. Link process.

Maybe you get to choose between two, if you hang out with one, you can't get the other? Or maybe S. Links are halved? Dunno, just throwing stuff out there.

Can't say I'm a fan of not being able to just walk around and explore outside of the dungeon. Plus how are we going to run around with our hands in our pockets now?

AND SKATING. We can skate no more. Did anyone do that? Where you went half walk/run, and he moved without moving his feet enough times? He kinda flew/skated. I shall miss that, but not too much.

[Gen Eric Gui]

AND SKATING. We can skate no more. Did anyone do that? Where you went half walk/run, and he moved without moving his feet enough times? He kinda flew/skated. I shall miss that, but not too much.

lol, I did this a lot. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

[StrikeRaider]

Thinking about it, the only reason you 'needed' direct control in P4 is to take advantage of the guard mechanic. Although stand by would make them guard instead?

[Kenji]

I know I'm not the only person who figured this out, but a lot of the time it feels like it.
I know what you mean.

I had figured out how to properly delegate in my first playthrough, but Hard Mode made me learn how to turn that into an art (i.e. buffs and debuffs). Now there are whole dungeon-crawling sections where the MC does nothing but give orders and soak up experience.

I had enough faith in my comrades that I could set their tactical priorities, hit "Wait," and leave. By the time I came back, an All-Out Attack was waiting for me.

In some ways, I was actually a little disappointed that direct control was implemented in P4, because it meant there were less tactical commands in the Tactics menu. I do hope P3P doesn't reduce the options.

[Enzeru]

Hmm...It's true that PS: P used a similar movement control as P3P. Still, PSU was really hard to move around in, so I think there was more of a reason to do so in PS: P than P3P.

And I agree that the characters being in the middle of the screen facing you feels weird. It's like playing a visual novel. Still, I like the new dialogue choice box. I really think P5 could end up on the PSP.

[Zacewing]

I have issues with the AI too at points. Sometimes the AI can be good, other times it's awful.

The one thing I hated was that your party always healed based on who has the lowest HP number rather than HP percentage. So you could have Koromaru below half HP and Yukari would still have like 75% of her HP left and she'd heal herself instead of Koromaru because she has the lower HP number.

I much prefer manual control in either case. It makes battles more fun for me.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I have issues with the AI too at points. Sometimes the AI can be good, other times it's awful.

The one thing I hated was that your party always healed based on who has the lowest HP number rather than HP percentage. So you could have Koromaru below half HP and Yukari would still have like 75% of her HP left and she'd heal herself instead of Koromaru because she has the lower HP number.

I much prefer manual control in either case. It makes battles more fun for me.

Exactly, that was my hugest problem. I hate not being able to control my characters and make my own mistakes instead of letting some AI do it for me; I feel almost cheated. I should try to pick up the original again; I stopped because of the Tables (whom I promptly kicked butt on in P4).

[blammo]

I don't own a PSP but may get one for thins (if there is enough different content) but for those that have one are there other good games for it?

[MrPopo]

So, the video showed the game being played on a PSPGo. That makes me wonder if P3P will be a Go-only title. That would take the restrictions on memory away. But. . . then I'd have to buy a Go. I like my UMD-style PSP. :-(
I could have sworn that you don't need a PSP Go to buy the download only titles. It just means that you can't get a physical UMD. The PSP already supports full PSP games off the PSN.

[zzy0600]

I wonder when wii the US version be released...After all, really look forward to it

[marche1990]

well, depending of the genre, they are
for example, if you like rpg's the most blatantly obvious is in the banner of these forums, coming in september. Atlus has published some titles on the psp that may be worth checking out, like Crimson Gem Saga. From Sega we have the sequel to Valkirya Chronicles, an amazing PS3 game, and from Square Enix we have Dissidia (ok, not really an rpg but it was based on one and have some elements of it xD), and from what a friend has told me from his playthrough of the japanese version it was good
Racing titles we have the new Gran Turismo
Action titles have god of war and monster hunter
fighting titles will have Soul Calibur broken destiny, Tekken, and, if you like obscure titles, Fate/Unlimited Codes
and if memory serves me right there will be a new resident evil on it.
I can't remember a lot, and those are some titles that I have in my radar when I buy a psp.
I think that you will have a chance to choose when you go to your local store =D

EDIT: there is new opening, here is the link:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1226792_1124.html

[Gen Eric Gui]

I have issues with the AI too at points. Sometimes the AI can be good, other times it's awful.

The one thing I hated was that your party always healed based on who has the lowest HP number rather than HP percentage. So you could have Koromaru below half HP and Yukari would still have like 75% of her HP left and she'd heal herself instead of Koromaru because she has the lower HP number.

I much prefer manual control in either case. It makes battles more fun for me.

Well, given that your characters have pretty even defenses as long as you keep up on their armor, wouldn't it be BETTER to heal the person with the lower HP number? I mean, if Junpei has 250 out of his 700 HP left, and Yukari has 200 out of her 300 left, Yukari is the character closest to death, because even though Junpei has lost a far greater % of his HP, Yukari still has a lower total and is more likely to get killed. IMHO, healing based on % health remaining is not optimal to survival.

Soushi: Have you read a word I've said? You have perfect control over your characters! You can 100% predict exactly what a given character will do under a given tactic, so switching tactics is almost exactly the same thing as manually selecting commands.

[unknown]

The only major issue I had with AI control in P3, was whenever I was charmed, they always prioritized healing me instead of dis-charming me.

Never had the Mitsuru using Marin Karin, when I was dying, issue.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Yeah, Yukari will only attempt to heal status ailments if everyone is sufficiently healed HP-wise, and she's the only character capable of healing ailments, so it can get a little messy. Your best best is to just set everybody to heal/support when facing enemies that can charm you, so you raise the chance that everyone will be fully healed if you get charmed.

Or to, you know, have a Persona with Null Charm. Charm is a pretty rare ailment, so it's not that difficult to prep an anti-charm Persona ahead of time.

[iammako3]

So, the video showed the game being played on a PSPGo. That makes me wonder if P3P will be a Go-only title. That would take the restrictions on memory away. But. . . then I'd have to buy a Go. I like my UMD-style PSP. :-(
I could have sworn that you don't need a PSP Go to buy the download only titles. It just means that you can't get a physical UMD. The PSP already supports full PSP games off the PSN.

You can play them if you download them on a memory stick, but if the game turns out to be a lof of GB, you'd need to buy a big memory stick to do it, which could be a bother since they can get pricey the higher you go.

[nbinney]

You can play them if you download them on a memory stick, but if the game turns out to be a lof of GB, you'd need to buy a big memory stick to do it, which could be a bother since they can get pricey the higher you go.

8gb for $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171311

[satokiba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRkM-fM7wg&NR=1

The opening is out already?!
...

[unknown]

You can play them if you download them on a memory stick, but if the game turns out to be a lof of GB, you'd need to buy a big memory stick to do it, which could be a bother since they can get pricey the higher you go.

8gb for $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171311

I can't wait until the 16gb sticks are affordable.

[nbinney]

I can't wait until the 16gb sticks are affordable.

I paid $40 for a 64mb SD card back in 2004. It's crazy how fast the prices drop on flash memory.

BTW, whats the max size a PSP can read anyway? They keep changing so I totally forget.

[syl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRkM-fM7wg&NR=1

The opening is out already?!
...

I was suprised too.
I feel like I'm watching an anime music video rather than a video game opening.
The tune is definately something I'd hear in a shounen anime, easy on the ears and gets stuck in your head.

[Emilio Morales]

As far as I know, "Kita Shuuhei" (the responsible of Breakin'Through aka Persona Trinity Soul's opening) was the one who sang this new opening.

[Enzeru]

BTW, whats the max size a PSP can read anyway? They keep changing so I totally forget.
32 GB, which is also the max a Memory Stick Pro Duo can hold.

[brigadeleader]

Here's a link to someone who has caught most of the words that flash during the opening.

http://community.livejournal.com/gekkoukanhigh/348668.html

[blammo]

From Sega we have the sequel to Valkirya Chronicles, an amazing PS3 game,

I didn't know about this! VC is my favorite PS3 game by far... VC2 and P3P may be just worth the price of admission.

BTW- I just cant wait to see what can be done with the Canvas Engine in terms of RPGs- amazingly beautiful.

Cheers!

[Enzeru]

From Sega we have the sequel to Valkirya Chronicles,
SERIOUSLY?! Since when? I've always wanted to play that, but with no PS3...

[satokiba]

As far as I know, "Kita Shuuhei" (the responsible of Breakin'Through aka Persona Trinity Soul's opening) was the one who sang this new opening.

Kita Shuuhei?!
Isdgdssdgafjkasfdsajgds. Kita Shuuhei is so adorable. I didn't recognize his voice one tiny bit, if that's him. He re-sang Memories of You/Kimi no Kioku and it was really good.

[Emilio Morales]

As far as I know, "Kita Shuuhei" (the responsible of Breakin'Through aka Persona Trinity Soul's opening) was the one who sang this new opening.

Kita Shuuhei?!
Isdgdssdgafjkasfdsajgds. Kita Shuuhei is so adorable. I didn't recognize his voice one tiny bit, if that's him. He re-sang Memories of You/Kimi no Kioku and it was really good.

Yeah, those songs are really cool and in a completely different way from the originals. I'm not really 100% sure about him singing this song though, but a friend told me that.

Next time, I would like Gackt to sing the opening :P :lol:

[Soushi_Grapple]

I'd like to see Gackt sing the opening... if Ayumi Hamasaki could do a darker theme than her usual stuff, itd be totally awesome if she could do a Persona or SMT opening song.

I rather liked Burn My Dread and the P4 opening, didn't care for the FES remix. I heard the battle music was changed for P3P? (Haven't gotten to high speed to see it yet..) but that sucks... alot.

[satokiba]

I'd like to see Gackt sing the opening... if Ayumi Hamasaki could do a darker theme than her usual stuff, itd be totally awesome if she could do a Persona or SMT opening song.

I rather liked Burn My Dread and the P4 opening, didn't care for the FES remix. I heard the battle music was changed for P3P? (Haven't gotten to high speed to see it yet..) but that sucks... alot.

I think only the female's battle music is changed, at least, that's what everyone's saying.

[Chibi_Kaji]

So, the video showed the game being played on a PSPGo. That makes me wonder if P3P will be a Go-only title. That would take the restrictions on memory away. But. . . then I'd have to buy a Go. I like my UMD-style PSP. :-(

No, it will see a UMD release as well. They are probably showing it off on the PSP Go since it will come out around the same time(I think).

[Emilio Morales]

So, the video showed the game being played on a PSPGo. That makes me wonder if P3P will be a Go-only title. That would take the restrictions on memory away. But. . . then I'd have to buy a Go. I like my UMD-style PSP. :-(

They're killing two birds with one stone IMO. Promoting the PSP Go! and P3P at the same time. I would not be surprised to see all future PSP games being shown on the PSP Go! from now on.

[Enzeru]

I have to ask: What the heck is a Go-only game? The only thing the Go can do that the 1000-3000 can't is Bluetooth.

[Saburo Hikari]

Found out about this pretty late, it being summer and all and me not being on the computer as much.

So yeah, I'm really excited about this game largely because of the new female protagonist. A female protagonist in the next Persona game was discussed in the Persona 4 forum, and I guess Atlus thought the same thing. Yeah sure, Atlus is milking Persona 3 like Square Enix does for Final Fantasy VII, but Persona 3 is one of the greatest games that I've ever played (Although Persona 4 takes that cake). I do want Atlus to stray away from Persona though since there are other fans that are waiting for something different, but I can't help but support Atlus in this remake. Especially since...I prefer the atmosphere of Persona 3 and 4 over the ones in other Megami Tensei games. >_>; Sorry...

I don't really like the new school, city, and battle theme though. I love Want to be Close, When Moon's Reaching Out Stars and Mass Destruction. But maybe I'll grow to like them. And I agree with the strange pink menus. I'd prefer it to stay blue, since that color is the theme for the game. Purple or even black might work better...

And you anti-Persona 3 people may hate me for this, but I hope there's a Persona 4 remake as well, as long as there's a female protagonist too.

[marche1990]

From Sega we have the sequel to Valkirya Chronicles,[/URL]
SERIOUSLY?! Since when? I've always wanted to play that, but with no PS3...

It was a while ago, I first read that in Kotaku (actually, most of the VG news I read are from there, like the announcement of P3P xD)
the funny thing is that it seems that it will borrow some elements from the persona series, most likely the social sim ([URL="http://www.siliconera.com/2009/07/14/valkyria-chronicles-psp-sequel-takes-a-tip-from-persona/"]link (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1226792_1124.html)) so, it will be interesting
EDIT: on topic, just read something. AFAIK, P3P will be in the two formats, it's just that any game that gets released after the release of the PSPGo will be in both UMD and PlaystationStore simultaneously, so I think that there is nothing to be afraid

[satokiba]

And you anti-Persona 3 people may hate me for this, but I hope there's a Persona 4 remake as well, as long as there's a female protagonist too.

Run. Far away, before they destroy you. D: Persona 4, will never, ever, ever make any sense with a female protagonist. So, so, so many things would have to be changed. Teddie would have to be female, which in turn would have its own repercussions, and other things would needed to be changed from there. Before they remake P4 for any platform, they need to start a Persona 2: IS remake/port. :/ I don't mind this P3P thing at all, but doing P4P would make me go, "๏̯͡๏".

Instead of a remake for the PSP, how about an original game? I'm tired of playing the same story over again, and I'd like to play an SMT game on the go. I think a more actiony game would go well on the PSP, like a Raidou game.

That said, I'd still buy P4P with a female protagonist, just 'cause I love you, Atlus.

[unknown]

P4P would be easier to do plot wise, just give the female protagonist, Izanami as a Persona, make Izangai the villian, and as easy as 1,2,3, you got yourself a female scenario

[iammako3]

I have to ask: What the heck is a Go-only game? The only thing the Go can do that the 1000-3000 can't is Bluetooth.

Ah, when I say "Go-only" I mean that they won't release a UMD of it. Yes, you can download PSP games to memory cards if you dont have a Go, so I guess I should say digital-release games instead. Sorry!

[Gen Eric Gui]

P4P would be easier to do plot wise, just give the female protagonist, Izanami as a Persona, make Izangai the villian, and as easy as 1,2,3, you got yourself a female scenario


Except that wouldn't really make sense either. Izanagi has no reason to go on a crazy revenge quest against Izanami; it only works the one way.

[unknown]

P4P would be easier to do plot wise, just give the female protagonist, Izanami as a Persona, make Izangai the villian, and as easy as 1,2,3, you got yourself a female scenario


Except that wouldn't really make sense either. Izanagi has no reason to go on a crazy revenge quest against Izanami; it only works the one way.

But Izanami never tried to go on a crazy revenge quest against Izanagi in P4, she only did the things she did because humanity desired it. And the only, sole reason why P4 Protag got Izanagi as a Persona was because Izanami "sparked" his abilities.

[Enzeru]

on topic, just read something. AFAIK, P3P will be in the two formats, it's just that any game that gets released after the release of the PSPGo will be in both UMD and PlaystationStore simultaneously, so I think that there is nothing to be afraid
No. Every 1st Party Game after the Go is released will be both DD and UMD. 3rd Party published games may or may not be both, they may only be UMD or DD.

[Saburo Hikari]

For anybody who is interested, I wrote an entire freakin' essay on my main issues with P3P. It's up at Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Gen+Eric+Gui/why-i-think-p3p-is-a-bad-idea-145042.phtml). Yeah, it sounds horrible at the start, but read it all the way through before you start sending me hate mail.Read your article, and I agree. But I'll just say that the female's story is non-canon and that it's there just for fans, especially the female fans of Persona 3.

[unknown]

Wow, your articles discusses some stuff I never even thought about when I played P3.

And I agree.

I can't go into every single instance used in the game, because that would take about 100 blogs more then I have time to write

DO IT

[Yukichin]

For anybody who is interested, I wrote an entire freakin' essay on my main issues with P3P. It's up at Destructoid (http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Gen+Eric+Gui/why-i-think-p3p-is-a-bad-idea-145042.phtml).

I will say that your article was well-written and I can definitely see many of your points. The thing is... you're worrying a little too much. We haven't seen enough of how the female side will be or how they'll canonize it and it sounds, quite honestly, like a "OMG THE ORIGINAL WAS HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IF THEY CHANGE *ANYTHING* IT'S WORSE" sort of moment. We just need to wait and see.

[Enzeru]

So some new news from a NeoGAF user who read this: http://www.biccamera.com/bicbic/jsp/w/catalog/detail.jsp?JAN_CODE=4984995900469


Bic Camera's game description for P3P is pretty interesting. It confirms certain things we already know, like how you can control team mates in battles, and the game has been entirely rebalanced. It also confirms that there are "many popular systems" from Persona 4 which will be implemented into P3P. Most important of all, it confirms that it is the female route which will be receiving "brand new tracks" from Meguro for both the daily life parts as well as battles. So this means that for the male route, I doubt there will be changes in the music which is already there. It basically confirms two different soundtracks depending one which gender you select.


Also, the P3P official site is open.

p3p.atlusnet.jp

Also: the main site's Product Page says it's for the PlaystaionPortable, lol

[Foobar]

For what Atlus does "milk" they are totally in the right to do so, even moreso than other companies that milk stuff to death. Atlus not only steps up produces original titles themselves, but go to bat for a lot of other developers and publish thier games here in the US.

That and despite the success of two prior versions, people still have a hard time finding the game or missed out on it.

That aside, the various facets of the story are only bound to the male character because some people want them to be, not because they have to be. There doesn't have to be a female version of Pharos just because the protagonist is now female, particularly considering you don't have apply any kind of realism to his existance anyway. The man replacing Elizabeth, on the other hand, is a simple thing to do. Elizabeth had no major ties to the main plot, so this new guy wouldn't either.

The initial scenario with Aigis can be changed as well. She's going to be important to either version of the main character anyway.

[satokiba]

Also, the P3P official site is open.

p3p.atlusnet.jp



Yay! The female main character calls her Persona Orpheus. I'm happy.

Also, love how they're saying "ORIFICE" instead of Orpheus, rofl.

[DrJonAngus]

So... does this mean the female character dates all the males in the game? I'm not really interested in playing the female MC, but that has been a burning question because wouldn't that make her a slut? I mean no offense of course.

[Kenji]

So... does this mean the female character dates all the males in the game? I'm not really interested in playing the female MC, but that has been a burning question because wouldn't that make her a slut? I mean no offense of course.
Answer that question yourself.

If you look at a male character having multiple girlfriends and think "pimp," "mack," etc., then look at a female character doing the same thing and think "slut," "whore," etc... what does this say about you?

Well, what does it say about you?

This game might provide a decent opportunity for us to look into ourselves, regarding this question.

[DrJonAngus]

I'm wasn't sure what route Atlus would take. I was kind of asking everybody else their opinion, dick

[unknown]

Double standards lol

[Kenji]

I'm wasn't sure what route Atlus would take. I was kind of asking everybody else their opinion, dick
Aww, did I hurt your feelings? Get over it.

Point is, Atlus doesn't really have to do much besides present the situation and let us tread water in our own double standards. It might be better that way, rather than telling us explicitly that the double standard is wrong. Then we have to look at ourselves and evaluate our own perceptions, hence, "Answer that question yourself."

You really need to think about the things I say before you come back with your knee-jerk reactions.

[DrJonAngus]

It's honestly not even that important. Why would me feelings be hurt anyways? "Oooh, a bad man on the Atlus Forums was a big meanie head to me." I'm sure I won't lose sleep over it. I think you are rude and don't care for your douche baggery. I have much better things to do than argue a trivial point about a, what I feel, pointless addition to a game with somebody who has an opinion I could care less about.

[Kenji]

It's honestly not even that important. Why would me feelings be hurt anyways? I think you are rude and don't care for your douche baggery. I have much better things to do than argue a trivial point about a needless addition to a game.
"Trivial?"

The double standard of how promiscuity is perceived between men and women is important in any society that believes it treats the sexes equally. In regards to the new material P3P presents, this could arguably be the most important thing.

You're the one who used the word "slut" when referring to the female main dating multiple guys. I pointed at that as an example of a societal double standard and asked for you to answer your own question, since this is (in my opinion) the most respectable path for Atlus to take.

If you see that and can only think of it as me being a "dick" or a "douche bag," then maybe you should stop asking complicated questions.

[DrJonAngus]

Personally, I think the female MC's promiscuous behavior can be unbecoming of her. I can't imagine the Femal MC dating Nozomi at all. If she has numerous gentleman callers at once, then yes, I think she is a slut. The whole double standard issue is subjective to the player, however. Some people think it is fine to "play the field" as it were, but different strokes for different folks I suppose. It's just a game though, so I don't see it being a hot button issue. That is why I said it was trivial because this issue is in the context of a video game. If we are talking about real life here, I personally think a girl who gets around quite a bit is not worth dealing with. I should know because I've dealt with this situation quite a few times before. I just figured I'd see what everybody else said. Also, Kenji, I used such vulgarities because I dislike your general demeanor towards me ;)

[SickleCellAnemia]

Personally, I prefer the term "man slut". :D

[DrJonAngus]

Personally, I prefer the term "man slut". :D

Well, the MC *Spoiler* makes sex with every girl you max the social link for *Spoiler* You could say man slut, but I prefer Hughe Hefner. I find it funny how it is implied rather than flat out stated what he does with said ladies. I bet there is some kid saying, "Why did he stay at her house in her room a while longer?! I want to know what they were doing! Maybe they played an intense game of Monopoly and needed to extend their hanging out session by 30 minutes in order to make find out who won." I bet this kid I was in middle school with couldn't figure it out considering he didn't know what masturbation was until he was 14 and I had to explain it to him in health class. I could have spared that last bit of course, but I still find it hilarious.

[Evilkinggumby]

Though I won't GET a psp to play this game.. I am glad they decided to do it. What it means is they're finally taking steps to test the waters and see how well a game will do with a male or female protagonist. if by modifying p3 to allow it, and if the game actually still feels solid and not compromised by adding that change, then great. if the game sells phenomenally well when it hits and makes them a: proud of the game with such changes and b: a buttload of revenue, then all the better for them to continue work on their next gen projects.

Very smart Atlus. Testing the waters here and now with a psp title rather then with the next volley of games. :) Lost revenue for taking a risk on a psp title isn't as catasprophic as if they made p5 and had dual MC's and it flopped because guys freak out over the concept. or hell.. if p5 had a female MC only.

As for sluts and whores.. c'mon.. the issue that could(and should, in the proper forums) be tackled is far from a trivial one, but it's not like how the game addresses it will change and effect the minds of the world like some weird hypnotic trick. I think there should be equality in th egame, where as in the original game the MC could.. do certain things.. the MC in the psp(male or female) should also be able to do certain things.

Since they only IMPLY adult situations in latter stages of some of the relationships(keeping this only slightly spoilery by being VERY vague) it is truly up to the player to choose how they see the events going down. That, for Atlus, is very smart. They can't control the player's opinions, and since there is so many ways to have an opinion on this type of topic, they keep it generally neutral and hint at it but don't make anything concrete. *hidden*some can play and think 'oh oh a sleepover! woo pajama party!' and and other can throw down the Barry white and bow-chika-wow-wow their imaginations to death. *hidden*

Choice. it's what it's all about.

But yes they should, and likely will, keep it balanced in that either sex would have the ability to date multiple people at the same time. or that neither could(thus allowing for a LOT of replay to see each S.link through). Since there is a double standard in most every civilized country in regards to this, the company, whether on one side of the fence or not, has to remain conscious of such things and be smart about how it deals with it. To ignore that, and just do whatever they want, can get them into a world of hurt.

[Enzeru]

Well, the MC *Spoiler* makes sex with every girl you max the social link for *Spoiler* You could say man slut, but I prefer Hughe Hefner. I find it funny how it is implied rather than flat out stated what he does with said ladies. I bet there is some kid saying, "Why did he stay at her house in her room a while longer?! I want to know what they were doing! Maybe they played an intense game of Monopoly and needed to extend their hanging out session by 30 minutes in order to make find out who won." I bet this kid I was in middle school with couldn't figure it out considering he didn't know what masturbation was until he was 14 and I had to explain it to him in health class. I could have spared that last bit of course, but I still find it hilarious.
What the...? I think a middle school kid would get it. Actually, maybe it would be more forced. ;] I would know.

[satokiba]

I think it's like someone mentioned, that the female protagonist, with her difference in personality, has to establish S. Links with only the SEES team members, to balance the bonds the male MC makes without effort. I dunno, that would disappoint me greatly, but they haven't showed her in any S. Links yet, and some of them don't make sense, like the male sports team, Kenji, Junpei. :/ Although, they could be forced to work, by making the female MC manager of a team, Kenji just...forgetting about his teacher girlfriend, and Junpei only feeling sympathy for Chidori, as opposed to a strong relationship. I dunno. Just seems like S. Links with SEES only for female is likely. And it seems like they'll all be platonic.

[Saburo Hikari]

As for sluts and whores.. c'mon.. the issue that could(and should, in the proper forums) be tackled is far from a trivial one, but it's not like how the game addresses it will change and effect the minds of the world like some weird hypnotic trick. I think there should be equality in th egame, where as in the original game the MC could.. do certain things.. the MC in the psp(male or female) should also be able to do certain things.

Choice. it's what it's all about.

But yes they should, and likely will, keep it balanced in that either sex would have the ability to date multiple people at the same time. or that neither could(thus allowing for a LOT of replay to see each S.link through). Since there is a double standard in most every civilized country in regards to this, the company, whether on one side of the fence or not, has to remain conscious of such things and be smart about how it deals with it. To ignore that, and just do whatever they want, can get them into a world of hurt.Atlus might borrow another thing from P4 and give you the option say to the Social Link character whether you want to date them or not.

Since they only IMPLY adult situations in latter stages of some of the relationships(keeping this only slightly spoilery by being VERY vague) it is truly up to the player to choose how they see the events going down. That, for Atlus, is very smart. They can't control the player's opinions, and since there is so many ways to have an opinion on this type of topic, they keep it generally neutral and hint at it but don't make anything concrete. *hidden*some can play and think 'oh oh a sleepover! woo pajama party!' and and other can throw down the Barry white and bow-chika-wow-wow their imaginations to death. *hidden* Some people complain that the screen turned black during these scenes, but I think it's great too. After all, the player is the protagonist, so the player can imagine whatever they want about what happened while the protagonist spent time with the Social Link character.


I'm just worried on how Atlus will juggle the Social Links. After all, a bunch of the non-SEES members have the same arcana as the SEES members.

Also, I wonder how the story cut-scenes will play out. I hope it's not character portraits only. A bunch of the cut-scenes only work with the in-game models.

[Enzeru]

Also, I wonder how the story cut-scenes will play out. I hope it's not character portraits only. A bunch of the cut-scenes only work with the in-game models.
They could play out like a visual novel and text could describe what happens.

[unknown]

Also, I wonder how the story cut-scenes will play out. I hope it's not character portraits only. A bunch of the cut-scenes only work with the in-game models.
They could play out like a visual novel and text could describe what happens.

This

A lot of NPCs that didn't have character portraits are most likely going to get one this time around.

[Zacewing]

I wonder what sort of hijinks will occur in the female scenario once Ryoji shows up. :p

[devilpyro]

why do people overly wanna persona 2... aww, but rather than persona 3 female counterpart im more dreaming for persona 4 female counterpart :D

even this one was opposition of minato which kinda sad since i wanna see minato f version :(

[satokiba]

why do people overly wanna persona 2... aww, but rather than persona 3 female counterpart im more dreaming for persona 4 female counterpart :D

even this one was opposition of minato which kinda sad since i wanna see minato f version :(


You see, there are these things called numbers. And they have an order. One, then two, then three. If you're doing remakes, it's kind of nice if you go in order. And you've obviously never played Persona 2, or you'd "overly wanna", as well.

[Enzeru]

You see, there are these things called numbers. And they have an order. One, then two, then three. If you're doing remakes, it's kind of nice if you go in order. And you've obviously never played Persona 2, or you'd "overly wanna", as well.
It would be kinda weird if you were a newcomer to the series

"So, wait...There's Persona for PSP, and Persona 3 for PSP, but...No Persona 2...?"

"Yup."

"Well, I guess I should hold off buying Persona 3, than."

[Eggn0g]

"So, wait...There's Persona for PSP, and Persona 3 for PSP, but...No Persona 2...?"

"Yup."

"Well, I guess I should hold off buying Persona 3, than."

That isn't too bad by RPG standards. Remember what happened to Final Fantasy before 7?

"OK, so we have Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3... and 7? Have we missed something here?"

I think most RPG fans dont get too fussed about the numbers at the end of their games anymore :p

[hickwarrior]

"So, wait...There's Persona for PSP, and Persona 3 for PSP, but...No Persona 2...?"

"Yup."

"Well, I guess I should hold off buying Persona 3, than."

That isn't too bad by RPG standards. Remember what happened to Final Fantasy before 7?

"OK, so we have Final Fantasy 1, 2, 3... and 7? Have we missed something here?"

I think most RPG fans dont get too fussed about the numbers at the end of their games anymore :p

I would just think it's a game. Although, it IS kind of hard to go back to previous installments of the game once you have seen the more 'advanced' one.

But for persona, they somehow can get away with it. Not so much from P3 to P4, I think they are the most alike in the persona series. But they can get away with doing SMT:P then going to P3P and then to P2, because P2 is, IMO, dramatically different from P3 and 4. not too much from P1, but still enough to see it as timeless.

This is why I think they can get away with porting P3 before remaking/porting P2.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Really, since 2 and 3 aren't too connected as far as I'm aware, it shouldn't be a problem. Back then, I think buying games out of order wasn't an issue and some may delay a purchase now simply to research the series and see what game needs to be played first, then go pick it up. I don't think its really an issue :p

I'm very happy to hear the male MC's music should stay the same and glad the female gets new music. It mixes things up.

Still a little worried about SLinks though... The love/not love option sounds like the best path. Like the Chidori paths in P3 originally, maybe whether you date Junpei or not will affect that.

[Syra]

Well, while I was hoping for a Persona 2 remake, since I never got to experience that game, I am glad to see a female protagonist option. One thing about the Japanese RPG market I've always hated, is the obsession with forcing the player into a specific character role. It's also one thing I've always praised the MegaTen series for, and that is the fact it generally attempted to give you enough control over the leading character to make them *your* character, not the game's character. This was done better in Nocturne, than in Persona 3 and 4, but the concept was still there, especially when you intentionally approached the game as a role-player, not as a completionist.

The one thing that was always an issue for me, was the fact you had no visual control over the character. You were always the male silent protagonist with no means to branch out of that. The fact they are adding a female version of the story is a solid move for me, even if it is still a pre-designed one(which in this case, makes sense). It means that you have far more control over the way the plot plays out than before, simply by deciding on a different gender. Granted, I'm sure they wont take it much farther than just flipping various gender roles around, but it's a first step, and that's what is important here.

Heck, even Fallout 3 didn't do much beyond changing "him, he, that guy" to "her, she, that girl," but it was enough to feel you had more control over the story, and more importantly, over your character. For that, I have to say I'm glad to see they're doing this. Besides, for newcomers to the game it adds a lot more replayability.

[Yukichin]

The one thing that was always an issue for me, was the fact you had no visual control over the character. You were always the male silent protagonist with no means to branch out of that. The fact they are adding a female version of the story is a solid move for me, even if it is still a pre-designed one(which in this case, makes sense). It means that you have far more control over the way the plot plays out than before, simply by deciding on a different gender. Granted, I'm sure they wont take it much farther than just flipping various gender roles around, but it's a first step, and that's what is important here.

I mostly agree with this. I mean, for fanarts and doujinshi and fanfictions it's nice to have a set visual design (and even name!) for a character, but I'd love to be able to visually design my own. Unfortunately, from what I've seen of games with that sort of stuff (which, quite honestly, is limited to Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology and Phantasy Star Portable), either the animations seem really low-budget (TotW), or something feels off about the character models (PSP).

But I would still love to be able to design my own character. I loved Minato's design in P3, but I really didn't like Souji's bowl cut...

[Eggn0g]

I mostly agree with this. I mean, for fanarts and doujinshi and fanfictions it's nice to have a set visual design (and even name!) for a character, but I'd love to be able to visually design my own. Unfortunately, from what I've seen of games with that sort of stuff (which, quite honestly, is limited to Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology and Phantasy Star Portable), either the animations seem really low-budget (TotW), or something feels off about the character models (PSP).


Dont base your judgements on those two games - character customization can be done VERY well. Mass Effect's a good example of this.

[vgslo]

THANK YOU ATLUS for making this games state side... 8)

The music CD too!!! Thank you!!! Pre-oder now at Amazon for the music CD...

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n205/diablo2cain/per.jpg

[unknown]

For a second there I thought the game was out already and I was like WTFBBQ I NEED TO GO TO GAMESTOP TOMORROW.

[Enzo_Kensei]

Hmmm... I'm kinda excited about this Persona 3 Portable thing. But as excited as I can be, I can't comment too much about this game. I'll be waiting for some more official info and perhaps pictures and videos.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Enzo, there are a few videos up and alot of generic artwork that will get slapped onto the cover, I'm sure. XD

[Enzo_Kensei]

Soushi: Yup2. I agree. Actually I already stumbled upon some videos about P3P. The opening was great. I'm really eager to know the name of the girl and the boy servant of igor too. ^^

[Yukichin]

Soushi: Yup2. I agree. Actually I already stumbled upon some videos about P3P. The opening was great. I'm really eager to know the name of the girl and the boy servant of igor too. ^^

Sounds kinky...

[Zenieth]

The name of the male assistant is kanji, he's a fan of sewing and loves to use random things to beat people over the head with.

[Zacewing]

The name of the male assistant is kanji, he's a fan of sewing and loves to use random things to beat people over the head with.

I lol'd.

He...actually does look like Kanji though. O_o

Actually, he looks like Akihiko and Kanji had a love child.

[satokiba]

Actually, he looks like Akihiko and Kanji had a love child.

Kanji and Akihiko, mmmm...wat? >_>

[Fatney]

When I think about it, Kanji and Akihiko do fit together, somewhat. Too bad this contradicts my own personal fantasies, but oh well.

[Enzo_Kensei]

I agree too. The boy one was perhaps their child. Lol. But he's more like kanji than akihiko though. ^^

[Enzeru]

Soushi: Yup2. I agree. Actually I already stumbled upon some videos about P3P. The opening was great. I'm really eager to know the name of the girl and the boy servant of igor too. ^^

Sounds kinky...
Makes me think of this (took from GFAQs):

Protagonist: Oh damn...looks like I don't have the right persona to fuse for Black Frost.

Igor: Perhaps...I could help you with that? In exxchaaannnge for another arrangement.

*female Protagonists rolls her eyes, sighs and begins to unbutton her blouse*

Protagonist: Alright..lets get this over with.

Igor: Excellent...you are being a most marvelous guest.

I agree too. The boy one was perhaps their child. Lol. But he's more like kanji than akihiko though. ^^
His face makes me think of Kanji but his body is totally Akihiko.

[FistMara]

Makes me think of this (took from GFAQs):
[I]
Protagonist: Oh damn...looks like I don't have the right persona to fuse for Black Frost.

Igor: Perhaps...I could help you with that? In exxchaaannnge for another arrangement.

*female Protagonists rolls her eyes, sighs and begins to unbutton her blouse*

Protagonist: Alright..lets get this over with.

Igor: Excellent...you are being a most marvelous guest.
lol that's awesome. I hope that's how it is in game because then I will be making black frosts and metatrons and whatnot all the time.

And Manlizabeth. You can't forget about Manlizabeth.
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/FistMara/manlizabeth.jpg
This is my (poorly made) image I created in a few seconds of what I thought Manlizabeth would look like. Boy, was I wrong.

[satokiba]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/system/sys01.html

New videos for system gameplay!

Uploaded them to YouTube:

Male Conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUbSnm5gAgg

Female Conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcKNxpw1G4

Again, just in case anyone's on a mobile device or can't access the site.

[Syra]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/system/sys01.html

New videos for system gameplay!

Uploaded them to YouTube:

Male Conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUbSnm5gAgg

Female Conversation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pcKNxpw1G4

Again, just in case anyone's on a mobile device or can't access the site.


You know, I really dislike the increase in Dating Sim feel they seem to be adding. I liked P3/4's conversations, how you still had the actual characters on screen, animating. This whole "generic 3-D backdrop, completely devoid of life" style conversation is really disappointing by comparison. Certain games can get away with it, but considering how P3 was designed, it just doesn't seem like a good change at all, especially when you're supposed to be in a crowded school room, only to see empty desks everywhere.

[unknown]

You know, I really dislike the increase in Dating Sim feel they seem to be adding. I liked P3/4's conversations, how you still had the actual characters on screen, animating. This whole "generic 3-D backdrop, completely devoid of life" style conversation is really disappointing by comparison. Certain games can get away with it, but considering how P3 was designed, it just doesn't seem like a good change at all, especially when you're supposed to be in a crowded school room, only to see empty desks everywhere.

The S. Link System IS a dating sim, so in a way those changes do fit.

And you have to remember P3P is being designed for the PSP in mind, there is no way Atlus can fit Persona 3 with all the new Girl stuff on a 1.82gb UMD without converting a big chunk of it into a visual novel.

[Syra]

The S. Link System IS a dating sim, so in a way those changes do fit.

And you have to remember P3P is being designed for the PSP in mind, there is no way Atlus can fit Persona 3 with all the new Girl stuff on a 1.82gb UMD without converting a big chunk of it into a visual novel.

I don't deny that, but I still don't like it. I abhor visual novels, but I enjoyed P3 primarily because it took a similar concept, and gave it more of a "The Sims" feel, where you actually had control over your actions, and a character on screen. The VN style hurts that in my opinion.

It isn't going to break the game or anything. You'll have the same amount of control, but the presentation is still disappointing, and I can't help but be dissatisfied with that. On the plus side, they do seem to be improving the combat portion of the game with a lot of P4's features, so I suppose it's a trade off.

I'd still rather have a 4gb download off PSN, and no UMD's if that allowed for better presentation, but I'm not about to say the game is a failure for one ugly quirk. There are certainly worse things out there.

[Enzeru]

Looks great. ^^ So I assume that's the same conversation, but it shows the difference of when you're a boy and when you're a girl? I couldn't read it, but it made sense that Yukari only came up to you if you're a girl.

[Enzeru]

I'd also like to point out that if you click on the MShe's tarot card, Mr. Ekoda asks a question, and if you get it right, you get a sample of the MShe and MC's map BGMs.

[Fatney]

I really like the music for the girl. I can't wait to hear more of the new tracks.

[Enzo_Kensei]

The Visual Novel style of conversation really suites the psp version of the game. Although I'd still prefer the original, I think the new VN and click style design makes the game much more faster. Than really actually running the whole town. ^^

[Emilio Morales]

More scans, sorry if the images are huge!
http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan01.jpg

http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan02.jpg

[Enzeru]

Details from neoGAF (Yawee and duckroll, to be specifix):



-Combat assistance from allies are in like P4 (follow-ups and taking lethal hits)
-Shows off some new Persona, like Neko Shogun from Soul Hackers and P4.
-Equipment is handled like P4, so you don't have to talk to party members to swap their gear.
-More significant cutscenes than we've seen so far.

---There's some explanation of the Skill Card system, too, but I can't make out what it is.
---More info about Elizabeth and "Theodore"

It says that when each Persona reaches a certain fixed level, you obtain a Skill Card. Using that Skill Card will allow you to pass the skill to another Persona.

Also, it says that when playing as a female character, when you first enter the Velvet Room you get to select a male or female assistant for the Velvet Room.

Pretty dumb that you ca only choose between Theodore (TERRIBLE NAME IS TERRIBLE) and Elizabeth if you're a girl. :[ Also, more cutscenes? Pretty awesome. Or, I guess ir says "more significant cut-scenes"...WTF does that mean?

[unknown]

Looks like they're keeping strike, slash, and pierce...thank god, I was worried that they'd remove it.