Persona 3 Portable announced for PSP

[satokiba]

Pretty dumb that you ca only choose between Theodore (TERRIBLE NAME IS TERRIBLE) and Elizabeth if you're a girl. :[ Also, more cutscenes? Pretty awesome. Or, I guess ir says "more significant cut-scenes"...WTF does that mean?

More significant, sounds like they'll be longer, with more content. And don't give up hope yet, 'cause, I mean, it'd be stupid not let the male MC choose, maybe they just mentioned her only? I dunno.

[Zacewing]

It looks like they're keeping Fusion spells (thank god).

[Manic Expressive]

People need to stop thanking god in reference to a Persona game lol.

I wish they would do real fusion spells that you can do with your other party members, up to 5 Persona's blaring spells at the same time for epic damage. Who said that it would be a great idea to remove that? Honestly, what were they THINKING? (avgn style)

[unknown]

They probably removed them for gameplay reasons.

It's not that big of a loss, considering you can still do a lot of damage with the fusion spells P3 MC can use.

[Eggn0g]

Damnit, he should have been called Manzibeth :(

I'm assuming they took out fusion spells for balance reasons or something. I wouldn't mind seeing what fusion spells would be like with the Press Turn system though...

[Saburo Hikari]

The Visual Novel style of conversation really suites the psp version of the game. Although I'd still prefer the original, I think the new VN and click style design makes the game much more faster. Than really actually running the whole town. ^^I'm becoming rather fond of the visual novel style, especially since P3 takes elements from visual novels anyway. I will miss the actual character in-game models though. I wanted to see the female protagonist's walking, running and idle animations. I wonder, does the female protagonist put her hands in her pockets too?

Hmm, and speaking of the female protagonist, her design, which looks more cheerful than the male protagonist doesn't match the fact that she has earphones. I mean, the earphones match the quiet characters, and this female protagonist looks more talkative. Of course, I'm not gonna let that small strangeness ruin the game for me.

More scans, sorry if the images are huge!
http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan01.jpg

http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan02.jpgUse a link instead of the whole image! O_o

[Fatney]

http://lastopp.no/filer2/6c7a4ce61ff01d536a92f00d82d22bb2.JPG
Two people attacking at the same time???

[Ephidel]

More scans, sorry if the images are huge!
http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan01.jpg

http://nijiko.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/persona3portable_scan02.jpgUse a link instead of the whole image! O_o

Definately seconded. The huge stretched page makes the discussion harder to read :(

Liking the scans (except for their size ;)) though, even if I feel like a bad person for laughing at the look of the way the female MC gets shoved out of the way in the whole 'party can protect from mortal blows' screenshot.

[satokiba]

http://lastopp.no/filer2/6c7a4ce61ff01d536a92f00d82d22bb2.JPG
Two people attacking at the same time???

Follow up attack.

[Nephlabobo]

That new theme song is ****ing terrible.

[Enzeru]

Pretty dumb that you ca only choose between Theodore (TERRIBLE NAME IS TERRIBLE) and Elizabeth if you're a girl. :[ Also, more cutscenes? Pretty awesome. Or, I guess ir says "more significant cut-scenes"...WTF does that mean?

More significant, sounds like they'll be longer, with more content. And don't give up hope yet, 'cause, I mean, it'd be stupid not let the male MC choose, maybe they just mentioned her only? I dunno.
Oh wait, it means there are no cutscenes. Just still images in the BG. Fail. :[

[Crow T. Robot]

I'm guessing Theodore is Elizabeth and Margaret's bro???

[Fatney]

http://lastopp.no/filer2/6c7a4ce61ff01d536a92f00d82d22bb2.JPG
Two people attacking at the same time???

Follow up attack.

I don't remember two people attacking at the same time even in Follow up attacks in P4.

[Bluerfn]

Maybe some Combo thingy from Avatar Tuner?

[Enzeru]

There are apparently also new Persona from P4. Awesome.

[unknown]

http://lastopp.no/filer2/6c7a4ce61ff01d536a92f00d82d22bb2.JPG
Two people attacking at the same time???

Follow up attack.

I don't remember two people attacking at the same time even in Follow up attacks in P4.

They've changed it apparently so that it's dual attack.

[marche1990]

this is looking better and better, although I can't decide if it's better or not to have a VN style in the gameplay (I have been playing one or two lately, so I'm used to it, but to have it in Persona will change the way of looking the game, and might turn off new players) but, Yay!, the advancements of P4 are here =D, finally the characters will take a mortal blow for me lol, however that makes me wonder, how will the game handle that part, like in P4 maxing the S.Links (while losing some others in the process =/) or some other approach (like leveling the support with only the Fool Arcana)... interesting, indeed.
And I lol'd about Theodore, weird choice for the name

[Enzeru]

this is looking better and better, although I can't decide if it's better or not to have a VN style in the gameplay (I have been playing one or two lately, so I'm used to it, but to have it in Persona will change the way of looking the game, and might turn off new players) but, Yay!, the advancements of P4 are here =D, finally the characters will take a mortal blow for me lol, however that makes me wonder, how will the game handle that part, like in P4 maxing the S.Links (while losing some others in the process =/) or some other approach (like leveling the support with only the Fool Arcana)... interesting, indeed.
And I lol'd about Theodore, weird choice for the name
Apparently it's a reference to Frankenstein. Haven't read that, tho'.

[Kenji]

Well, according to the Googles, Theodore is the name of the author of The Memoirs of Elizabeth Frankenstein, and that's really the only hit.

[Enzeru]

Some official sketch arts!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3494/HkOJqB9ukf11IJzu729qgP2oaU1ZsaSZ.html

You know what would be an awesome spoil? A double sided CD with tracks from the MC on one side and the MShe on the other.

[satokiba]

Some official sketch arts!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3494/HkOJqB9ukf11IJzu729qgP2oaU1ZsaSZ.html


Can I have your babies? 'Cause you're always delivering.

Wow, that joke was unbearable

[Enzo_Kensei]

Some official sketch arts!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3494/HkOJqB9ukf11IJzu729qgP2oaU1ZsaSZ.html

You know what would be an awesome spoil? A double sided CD with tracks from the MC on one side and the MShe on the other.

Thanks for the info and sketch arts. ^^

[Crow T. Robot]

Ohh she's cute.

[Enzeru]

Some official sketch arts!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3494/HkOJqB9ukf11IJzu729qgP2oaU1ZsaSZ.html


Can I have your babies? 'Cause you're always delivering.

Wow, that joke was unbearable
Oh god. xD

EDIT: Haven't seen these new screens posted yet.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1227161_1407.html

[hickwarrior]

Whoa, what's the serious version of raidou kuzunoha doing there?

[Megaknees]

This is my first time posting but I just feel like jumping on the speculation train of what I saw in the trailer. (This might also have spoilers so I'll just warn just in case: SPOILERS DURR HURR!!1!1).

Does anyone else think that the Female MC will take the place of Natsuki? I just assumed that since in the opening video for the game Fuuka and Aigis are in two scenes together, and in one of the scenes Minato is parallel to Aigis, as Female MC is parallel to Fuuka. That or Natsuki and Fuuka would be friends but not as much as the female MC and Fuuka could possibly be, (but if this was the case I wonder how Fuuka's awakening would turn out?)

Also, about the mirror Shinjiro/Ken/Koromaru scene, and where it says "Dissociated State" upside down, and "Dissociative Fugue" right side up. Dissociated State can be caused by the use of some psychoactive drugs (the drugs that Strega and Shinjiro take could be considered that since they were used to control their Personas which are pretty much a mental facade of that person).

However, Dissociative Fugue refers to something else
"Dissociative fugue involves one or more episodes of sudden, unexpected, but purposeful travel from home during which people cannot remember some or all of their past life, including who they are (their identity). These episodes are called fugues. " Source and quote. (http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec07/ch106/ch106d.html)Which is caused by a traumatic event that happened in someone's life. They're both similar but could this indicate a possibility of change in the outcome of Shinjiro's fate, as well as Ken's? I could probably picture some good scenarios that will allow Ken, Akihiko, and maybe Shinji if possible to awaken to their new Personas if he lived. Although there is always the possibility that he could die in both gender storylines (but the whole flash of "The Butterfly Effect" leads me to believe that the slight change of gender could strongly affect not only what could happen to Shinjiro/Ken but all of the characters as well, but then again I guess that would be pretty obvious.) If I'm wrong about anything I posted above please correct me.

...Oh my god I wrote all that? FFFFFFFFFFF I'm going to sleep.

[Zacewing]

If Shinji lived in the female scenario, I'd buy this on day one.

[Einherjar]

I saw some scans, and it seems that they took out free roaming? I'm a bit hesitent... How would that work though?

[unknown]

I saw some scans, and it seems that they took out free roaming? I'm a bit hesitent... How would that work though?

Point and Click + Visual Novel styled conversations/S. Links

Does anyone else think that the Female MC will take the place of Natsuki?

Doubt it, unless they decide to completely remove the bullying and Fuuka being locked in the school thing.

[FangzV]

I saw some scans, and it seems that they took out free roaming? I'm a bit hesitent... How would that work though?

Point and Click + Visual Novel styled conversations/S. Links

Does anyone else think that the Female MC will take the place of Natsuki?

Doubt it, unless they decide to completely remove the bullying and Fuuka being locked in the school thing.

And that Fuuka's persona evolved by Natsuki leaving.

(Spoiler tags just in case, but I don't know if they're needed)

[Enzo_Kensei]

Some official sketch arts!

http://www.famitsu.com/image/3494/HkOJqB9ukf11IJzu729qgP2oaU1ZsaSZ.html


Can I have your babies? 'Cause you're always delivering.

Wow, that joke was unbearable
Oh god. xD

EDIT: Haven't seen these new screens posted yet.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1227161_1407.html

Wow, those gameplay screenshot really are cool. I also liked the p4 battle style. And I'm starting to get used to the VN style and click gameplay to move along. I'll be fast. ^^

[Enzeru]

I found some walls on the site by clicking the moon at night. I uploaded them to PB too.


#1:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/p3p_d_1024x768.jpg

PSP#1:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/p3p_d_480x272.jpg

#2:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/p3p_n_1024x768.jpg

PSP#2:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/p3p_n_480x272.jpg

For bigger resolutions:
http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/extra/index.html

[Eggn0g]

Nice one, Enzeru :) I've been needing a new PSP wallpaper.

[bookmarkmaster]

Persona 3 is going portable, jumping from the PlayStation 2 to the PSP. This was confirmed in the latest Famitsu, who also says that there will be a new main character -- a female. In the scan, you can see this main character as well as what appears to be a female persona. We're with Siliconera in saying that this looks like a female Orpheus. I don't know what all of this is about, but I hope a sex change was not involved.

So that's great: a portable Persona 3 is coming, following up the excellent (and upcoming) Persona 1. But where the hell is Persona 2? I've been daydreaming of getting both parts of the Persona 2 story on one UMD. I think they're holding out on us.

As far as Persona 3 Portable is concerned, there's no other details or release dates. I'd say that you can be pretty sure that Atlus USA is going to pick this one up for us.

[Update: Phoenix Gamma sends us a second scan. It doesn't tell us much, but it looks cool! I see the telemarketer guy in there. Oh, and Coffeesash made us this P3P logo based on the scan.]

[Update 2: Destructoid's Unloved Krow sends us a new scan, this time showing both the male and female main characters. Also, a release date of November 1st is given for Japan.]

[Update 3: Kotaku reports that you will be able to control all your party members manually.]
http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/144717-pers.jpg

[satokiba]

As far as Persona 3 Portable is concerned, there's no other details or release dates. I'd say that you can be pretty sure that Atlus USA is going to pick this one up for us.


There's a release date. November the 1st, 2009. What're you smoking? >_> You just fed us information we all already knew. And it'd be stupid for Atlus USA to give us a release date, before their version of Persona 1 is even released.

[Eggn0g]

He actually copied an old article from Destructoid and pasted it here.

Dunno what the point of that was :/

[Juanblue85]

So I found out that the elizabeth male counterpart's name is Theodore. Hmm I like it. Thanks to siliconera.com

[Enzeru]

Yeah. Unfitting name, IMO.

[Eggn0g]

Theodore's alright, but I still think he should have been called Manzibeth.

[Fatney]

Theodore kinda fits him, but it almost ruins it for me since the only guy I know who is called Theodor is total retard.

[satokiba]

Theodore kinda fits him, but it almost ruins it for me since the only guy I know who is called Theodor is total retard.

Just call him Teddie. Teddie's name, Kanji's appearance, Elizabeth's outfit.

[Ephidel]

Theodore kinda fits him, but it almost ruins it for me since the only guy I know who is called Theodor is total retard.

Just call him Teddie. Teddie's name, Kanji's appearance, Elizabeth's outfit.

Oh damn you, you just broke my perceptions of Manzibeth.
Now I look at him and I hear Teddie's voice. I picture walkabout dates happening to the sound of squeaky walking shoes.
Why why why? :'(

:P

[Fatney]

Has anyone heard on the new (?) audio samples on http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/ ? Click on the girl and you can hear the new battle theme intro. Is it just me, or does this sound very ominous?

[unknown]

http://xcomprandomness.co.uk/2009/09/04/more-p3p-changes-revealed-fewer-anime-and-no-in-game-cutscenes/

They removed my most favorite scene of the game ;_;

When the protagonist first summons his Persona at the dorm, the scene is presented in a battle instead of the original Anime cutscene.

[Juanblue85]

When November comes around for JP players we need to confirm who is the toughest the veteran Elizabeth or new challenger Theodore. You know every time I think about Theodore, Alvin and the Chipmunks come to mind.

[Enzeru]

Has anyone heard on the new (?) audio samples on http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/ ? Click on the girl and you can hear the new battle theme intro. Is it just me, or does this sound very ominous?
I think the battle theme seems normal. What about it seems "ominous" to you?

[satokiba]

They removed my most favorite scene of the game ;_;


"Per...so...na"

I almost came in my pants when I saw that scene. I knew I was going to be hooked to the game, because of that scene.

I'll refrain from bitching, 'cause...PSP, but, grr. :(


Edit: Ooh! Bunch of new stuff on the P3P site! I'll upload any new videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-Z0eC1XAw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsR2Xgp1z1k

For some reason, it won't let me snag where the female summons her Persona. :(

[Zacewing]

Damnit, all of the ingame cutscenes will be removed? -is slightly less interested in the game-

I know they're trying to fit the game onto a UMD and all, but that's still disappointing. ;_;

[Enzo_Kensei]

I still cant understand why they abandoned the anime style cut scenes? Is it because its too big to fit in to the UMD disk? But they already dropped the free roaming game play right? What could possibly went wrong? I really loved the anime cutscenes in P3.

[unknown]

It's probably due to space issues, and also they'd have to animate a new scene for the Girl.

[Enzo_Kensei]

It's probably due to space issues, and also they'd have to animate a new scene for the Girl.

Now it made me realize how small really is the capacity of the UMD. :D

[Juanblue85]

So I just found out that Theodore will named Theodor in Japan which I find very sad. So if the game comes to America please name him with an E at the end it just makes absolute sense.

[satokiba]

So I just found out that Theodore will named Theodor in Japan which I find very sad. So if the game comes to America please name him with an E at the end it just makes absolute sense.

Actually, it's Teodor, and of course they'll change it. Just like Tartarus isn't Tartaros, because Tartarus is a real mythic place. It's all part of localizing the game. They didn't keep Teddie's name "Kuma", either.

[Enzeru]

Edit: Ooh! Bunch of new stuff on the P3P site! I'll upload any new videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-Z0eC1XAw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsR2Xgp1z1k

For some reason, it won't let me snag where the female summons her Persona. :(
Hey, that's my job! :p

I feel neutral about the cutscenes. I'm looking forward to the 3D adaptions of them.

EDIT: I posted the MShe summoning on YTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKFSfHaVN4

[hickwarrior]

Well, less of an impact than the animé cutscene. Maybe it's because the full moon boss battle theme is playing. Why didn't they keep the original music there?

[Kenji]

Just like Tartarus isn't Tartaros, because Tartarus is a real mythic place.
Actually, "Tartarus" is just a Latinized "Tartaros." However, since many people don't know that, it's just easier to go with the Roman form than the Greek.

[Enzeru]

Eye spy a save point!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Save.png

[satokiba]

Just like Tartarus isn't Tartaros, because Tartarus is a real mythic place.
Actually, "Tartarus" is just a Latinized "Tartaros." However, since many people don't know that, it's just easier to go with the Roman form than the Greek.

I didn't know that. o.o; I feel dumb now. D:

<3 Thank you for telling me, though. :D

[Foobar]

It's probably due to space issues, and also they'd have to animate a new scene for the Girl.

Now it made me realize how small really is the capacity of the UMD. :D

Well that and I'd assume they'd want the PSN download version to be a reasonable size as well. You can actually fit a lot on a UMD, its just that outside of a handful of developers, no one really tries that hard on PSP.

[Eggn0g]

I feel neutral about the cutscenes. I'm looking forward to the 3D adaptions of them.

Same here, really. The anime scenes where different, but not particuarly amazing. The game engine handled that cutscene well enough, so I don't mind if that's how they do the rest of 'em.

Looks like we may still get a couple of animated cutscenes anyway though - the Tartarus one looks a bit different, but it's still animated.

[Fatney]

Has anyone heard on the new (?) audio samples on http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/ ? Click on the girl and you can hear the new battle theme intro. Is it just me, or does this sound very ominous?
I think the battle theme seems normal. What about it seems "ominous" to you?

With my headphones I could hear these kinda dark tunes in the background. Just listen closely, and you should hear it.

[Hanamura Yousuke]

This is Atlus just trying to milk us for more cash. Maybe trying to appeal to the female fanbase. But seriously, I think they should be more focusing on P5 or an expansion to P4.

[Fatney]

So this is milking the cow, but making "an expansion to P4" isn't?

[Hanamura Yousuke]

So this is milking the cow, but making "an expansion to P4" isn't?

Well, yes it is. But havent they already milked the P3 cow enough? They are over abusing one of the best games they've made!

[Commander-Lynx]

This could be really good or really bad.

PSP has a notorious nature for having half-assed games.

It's not the systems fault, it's the developers of the game of course, they produce "quick-buck" games.

Games that go nowhere near what the average work towards making a game is.

Though there are quite a few Nice games for the PSP because THEY STARTED FROM SCRATCH like they should have.

Games by Square Enix are good, the final fantasy games are made from the ground up, some other ones do nicely as well but people seem to think that the PSP isn't a full system or something because more often than not it's all recycled from the PS2 counterpart.

Now, this will be a remake, but the quality will no doubt be sacrificed due to the system, I have to say the chances of it being recycled blubber are higher than it impressing you.

But we can all hope, right?

[satokiba]

This could be really good or really bad.

PSP has a notorious nature for having half-assed games.

It's not the systems fault, it's the developers of the game of course, they produce "quick-buck" games.


Everyone seems to forget that the PSP is a handheld. I mean, c'mon, did you really ever play a game for the GBA that was REALLY deep and innovative? Okay, there's Mother...and some others, but. PSP is still pretty good. ._. We've come a long way, and I can name twenty games off of the top of my head that are good on the PSP, which is more tha-- I should be quiet now.

[Evilkinggumby]

I agree with Satokiba. I come from the generation of gamers that pre-dates even the gameboy. We grew up with tabletop LED games and the ColecoVision. (much later)I owned the original gameboy and played it to death when it it(despite the lack of comparable visuals to even a regular nintendo, it was still well above and beyond most portable tech(tiger games) until the Atari Lynx hit)

Being from that gen, my expectations and ability to be impressed by a portable system are likely very different then kids now raised on the game boy advanced, game boy LS and nintendo DS or later. I still find it amazing that they can get near-ps1/2 visuals on a itty bitty handheld system, and make it playable.

Because of this, if P3 is even 75% of the original game it'll still be a helluva fun time to play. I can't say I'd expect it to be BETTER then the original, but I doubt it'd be far worse.. unless Atlus decided to start sh*tting on their own fans, which I (also) can't see happening. They may do a lot of shortcuts, but they're carefully calculated in their decisions.

[Enzeru]

I still find it amazing that they can get near-ps1/2 visuals on a itty bitty handheld system, and make it playable.
I feel the same way. I came from the late GBC era, but I still find it pretty amazing how powerful the PSP is. It even has an analog stick! I always found that just so cool.

[Saburo Hikari]

Shoot, I already pre-ordered the Japanese version of this game. My obsession with P3 dwindled a bit thanks to P4, but it's back up again thanks to this game.

[RaiHo15]

Have they revealed if the Male MC can form social links with the guys of SEES? Because if he can't, would that mean that he can't get battle support from the guys. I'm sorry if this has already been answered.

[Kenji]

<3 Thank you for telling me, though.
No problem. :D I wouldn't have known, myself, if I hadn't taken Latin...

Have they revealed if the Male MC can form social links with the guys of SEES? Because if he can't, would that mean that he can't get battle support from the guys. I'm sorry if this has already been answered.
Unless they significantly change the S.Link/Commu structure, then it looks like the male MC won't be able to interact with male teammates... so, maybe combat support will come after plot events (namely, whatever causes their Personae to evolve).

I guess all we can do is wait and see.

[Enzeru]

Unless they significantly change the S.Link/Commu structure, then it looks like the male MC won't be able to interact with male teammates... so, maybe combat support will come after plot events (namely, whatever causes their Personae to evolve).

I guess all we can do is wait and see.
I would hope that they could just make 2 S. Links of the same Arcana. They could just make the overlapping teammate's card gold.

[Megaknees]

Unless they significantly change the S.Link/Commu structure, then it looks like the male MC won't be able to interact with male teammates... so, maybe combat support will come after plot events (namely, whatever causes their Personae to evolve).

I guess all we can do is wait and see.
I would hope that they could just make 2 S. Links of the same Arcana. They could just make the overlapping teammate's card gold.
I remember hearing this idea from another site that the follow-up attacks, and other combat support would be linked to the SEES Fool Social Link's progression or something of the sort. Doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.

[tross]

Unless they significantly change the S.Link/Commu structure, then it looks like the male MC won't be able to interact with male teammates... so, maybe combat support will come after plot events (namely, whatever causes their Personae to evolve).

I guess all we can do is wait and see.
I would hope that they could just make 2 S. Links of the same Arcana. They could just make the overlapping teammate's card gold.
I remember hearing this idea from another site that the follow-up attacks, and other combat support would be linked to the SEES Fool Social Link's progression or something of the sort. Doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.

That's what I was thinking too. As the fool arcana progresses, you learn new tactics, so why can't follow ups, and the ability to take mortal blows be included as well? That way no one will have to worry about the male characters being excluded from that in the guy version. I'm wondering if the girl version has different social links in place of the female party members as well? If that's the case, it makes sense for both to base it on the fool social link.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ They have to do that hopefully though because its the only thing that I could think of that fits well. :)

[Fatney]

Aww, there goes my hopes of dating Junpei as the male protagonist. You know, if you guys are right.

[Hanamura Yousuke]

Dating Akihiko is a 100% Must if I'm to pick up this game.

[billieK]

music donesn't change if you play with minato: http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/

fatney=> you forget chidori!! ^^

[satokiba]

music donesn't change if you play with minato: http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/

fatney=> you forget chidori!! ^^

MC dates over 9,000 chicks, why can't Junpei?...and he can date MaleMC at the same time.

[unknown]

Because P3 MC is one badass mother####er

Junpei is not.

[Zenieth]

correction, you can make MC into one badass mutha####er, junpei you can not.

[Saburo Hikari]

Regarding all of that "Why is Atlus Japan making P3P before P2P?" that was said earlier in this thread and in the other P3P thread: well this is just an idea, but maybe two different teams are working on these games. Maybe there's one P1P/P2P team and another P3P/P4P(?) team. Same as the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII games or the new Kingdom Hearts games maybe.

[bluekamikaze]

what ever happend to playing games for gameplay and story. it seems like more and more we get away from gameplay and story so we can pretty cut scenes and graphics.. i tell you what i will take story and gameplay over pretty anyday. i dont think it is a big loss to lose the anime cutscenes i always felt they were outta place when most of the rest of story was told in the in game engine.

[Saburo Hikari]

what ever happend to playing games for gameplay and story. it seems like more and more we get away from gameplay and story so we can pretty cut scenes and graphics.. i tell you what i will take story and gameplay over pretty anyday. i dont think it is a big loss to lose the anime cutscenes i always felt they were outta place when most of the rest of story was told in the in game engine.I sort of agree. The anime cut-scenes outside of the OP, beginning, and ending felt kinda off for some reason. Maybe it was because of the low quality, or because the English dub didn't sound good during the anime cut-scenes. Same applies to P4.

I will miss the anime cut-scene for the protagonists' awakenings though. That scene had a stronger effect than this new in-game cut-scene.

[Fatney]

I didn't really like the fact that the awakening is now full 3D. It was one of the coolest moments in the game, so a boring cutscene just doesn't do it... It need a spectacular confusing drawn cutscene with cool music!

[Enzeru]

what ever happend to playing games for gameplay and story. it seems like more and more we get away from gameplay and story so we can pretty cut scenes and graphics.. i tell you what i will take story and gameplay over pretty anyday. i dont think it is a big loss to lose the anime cutscenes i always felt they were outta place when most of the rest of story was told in the in game engine.
Sure, but it's nice when things ARE pretty and DO have anime cutscenes. That said, I thought that the Journey's cutscenes were sub par to the Answer's anyway.

EDIT: Boxart:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/fc4qo4.jpg

Eww, no. Please change, Atlus USA.

EDIT EDIT:
MShe Outfits:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/MsheOutfits.png

Middle = CUUTE!<3

[satokiba]

Eww, no. Please change, Atlus USA.

MShe Outfits...

Middle = CUUTE!<3

Change? D: But...I like it. And she is SO adorable.

[Fatney]

Holy ####, that is what I call amazing box art. Featuring manly Junpei.

[persona3rocks]

I just pre ordered the PSP Go just for this game when it comes out and the other persona game that comes out this month!!!!

[Enzeru]

Change? D: But...I like it. And she is SO adorable.
The box art looks like random fan art, IMO.

[Zenieth]

Why is mshe's eyes glowing red?

[Zacewing]

That boxart is sexy.

[Juanblue85]

That boxart is sexy.

Indeed it is I hope if it comes over Atlus doesn't change it. I remember when P3/FES came over with just characters silhouettes. It was awesome for five minutes.....nah it is cool.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Any preorder bonuses for this in Japan? o.o

Such a shame to miss out on the Major Arcana Tarot cards from the first release... ><;

[Crow T. Robot]

what ever happend to playing games for gameplay and story. it seems like more and more we get away from gameplay and story so we can pretty cut scenes and graphics.. i tell you what i will take story and gameplay over pretty anyday. i dont think it is a big loss to lose the anime cutscenes i always felt they were outta place when most of the rest of story was told in the in game engine.
Sure, but it's nice when things ARE pretty and DO have anime cutscenes. That said, I thought that the Journey's cutscenes were sub par to the Answer's anyway.

EDIT: Boxart:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/fc4qo4.jpg

Eww, no. Please change, Atlus USA.

EDIT EDIT:
MShe Outfits:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/MsheOutfits.png

Middle = CUUTE!<3
Ohhh come on I like it better then the boxarts for 3 and FES.

Is the girl going to be the MC we get to name?

[Enzeru]

Ohhh come on I like it better then the boxarts for 3 and FES.

Is the girl going to be the MC we get to name?
I loved the American FES art; haven't seen the Append or otherwise JP versions.

And yes, that is the MShe.

[four_black_hearts]

Brunettes have less fun.

[Crow T. Robot]

Ohhh come on I like it better then the boxarts for 3 and FES.

Is the girl going to be the MC we get to name?
I loved the American FES art; haven't seen the Append or otherwise JP versions.

And yes, that is the MShe.
Maybe it's just me but the FES boxart looked a bit to plain.

And I stated that question wrong; what I meant to say is 'Do we get to name the Mshe?'

[Enzeru]

And I stated that question wrong; what I meant to say is 'Do we get to name the Mshe?'
Why not? We could name the MC, so...

[persona3rocks]

:question::question:Ok when is atlus ganna put up a site for this game!

[Enzeru]

:question::question:Ok when is atlus ganna put up a site for this game!
Like this? (http://p3p.atlusnet.jp)

[persona3rocks]

Yea but in english I knew about this one already but thanks!

[Yukichin]

Yea but in english I knew about this one already but thanks!

It's not even been announced for American release; there's no reason they'd have a site up for it.

[persona3rocks]

Well the secrets out :) We all know its coming out!

[satokiba]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/extra/index.html

Now it has "Sound 3" and "Sound 4". It's female's version of "Want to Be Close"

[tross]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/extra/index.html

Now it has "Sound 3" and "Sound 4". It's female's version of "Want to Be Close"

I hope this release comes with a soundtrack. Well, first I hope Atlus USA will decide to localize it, but I would also like a soundtrack. I wouldn't mind a female version of the original P3 artbook either lol. Seriously though, if you just announce the game for NA Atlus, I'll be happy.

[satokiba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhwx5nCZqeI

Here's a video with all the music for female so far, and MP3 download links.

[hickwarrior]

Can anyone explain the theme in the female rearrangements. They all seem to feel softer, warmer. Except MD, which seems to be more 'hip'... I'm not sure here, though.

[Enzeru]

Samples are waaaay longer now.

[Megaknees]

Hopefully Shinjiro will be more than just a plot device in this version. :<

[bluekamikaze]

you do have a point there as well.. but i wouldn't want to lose any story or game play just to have them in.

[Enzeru]

Isn't character development a plot device...? :P

My PB links broke because I moved them all here:[/URL]

[url]http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/ (http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona%203%20Portable/)
(http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona%203%20Portable/)

[Megaknees]

I don't see anything in that link.

[persona3rocks]

Doupt it! Would be nice to have the other main character on the team tho. Like if you pick the female the male is still on your team. It's ganan be weird not seeing the crazy blue haired leader after every turn in tartarus. it will take some time to get used too. :(

[Enzeru]

I don't see anything in that link.
That's weird. x.x It works when you go to my album and click it, though...

http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/

Try again? O.o

New Scan:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/?action=view&current=P3PNewScan.jpg

[Emilio Morales]

^The link works for me now.

[Juanblue85]

Woah they didn't do the animated part of when the MC says Per-so-na? Which begs the question if this is the Female MC version then would it also be the same for the male MC? I mean it was animated for him.

[unknown]

Woah they didn't do the animated part of when the MC says Per-so-na? Which begs the question if this is the Female MC version then would it also be the same for the male MC? I mean it was animated for him.

It'll probably be the same for the male MC, just to be consistent.

[Enzeru]

New Scans!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/17SEP-page34.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/17SEP-page12.jpg

It sees there's dating for both Elizabeth and Theodore. No word on whether there will be Elizabeth dating for MShe.

There are seems to be two new S. Links. Rio Iwasaki and Saori Hasegawa. All party members also seem to have S. Links, including...Koromaru...

[persona3rocks]

Awesome

[unknown]

So they've expanded P3 MC's harem.

[satokiba]

So they've expanded P3 MC's harem.

No? Those are female character's exclusive, it seems, from the text and screens. It's probably making up for the ones that don't make sense for female, like Kazu, and the related male swim team links.


It sees there's dating for both Elizabeth and Theodore. No word on whether there will be Elizabeth dating for MShe.

There are seems to be two new S. Links. Rio Iwasaki and Saori Hasegawa. All party members also seem to have S. Links, including...Koromaru...

I highly doubt there will be any female-female or male-male dating, though it was discussed after Persona 4 was made. As much as I'd like that, it just doesn't seem likely, because of the screens and things so far.

I'm glad that all of your party members have S. Links now.

[unknown]

So they've expanded P3 MC's harem.

No? Those are female character's exclusive, it seems, from the text and screens. It's probably making up for the ones that don't make sense for female, like Kazu, and the related male swim team links.


awwwww, but I thought they were going to add new content for P3 MC as well?

Well, we'll see when it comes out.

[Crow T. Robot]

New Scans!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/17SEP-page34.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/FEDKite/Persona3Portable/17SEP-page12.jpg

It sees there's dating for both Elizabeth and Theodore. No word on whether there will be Elizabeth dating for MShe.

There are seems to be two new S. Links. Rio Iwasaki and Saori Hasegawa. All party members also seem to have S. Links, including...Koromaru...
Now that'd be interesting.

I don't remember but, Koromaru didn't have an S. Link in 3/FES right??

[unknown]

No, we just had the walks.

[Fatney]

I don't see why they won't allow us to have same sex-dating. I mean, a large part of the fanbase are fangirls who likes their yaoi. And yuri. I mean, P3 shouldn't be fanservice all the way, but allowing people to date the same sex would make it a better and more immersive experience for some.

[Eggn0g]

So they've expanded P3 MC's harem.

No? Those are female character's exclusive, it seems, from the text and screens. It's probably making up for the ones that don't make sense for female, like Kazu, and the related male swim team links.


awwwww, but I thought they were going to add new content for P3 MC as well?

Well, we'll see when it comes out.

I'm certain they said the male MC would get new content too. I think all his social links are covered arcana-wise, so adding more would be a bit messy.

[Crow T. Robot]

I don't see why they won't allow us to have same sex-dating. I mean, a large part of the fanbase are fangirls who likes their yaoi. And yuri. I mean, P3 shouldn't be fanservice all the way, but allowing people to date the same sex would make it a better and more immersive experience for some.
I'd like to see that, just for the simple fact it'd be something different.

[unknown]

So they've expanded P3 MC's harem.

No? Those are female character's exclusive, it seems, from the text and screens. It's probably making up for the ones that don't make sense for female, like Kazu, and the related male swim team links.


awwwww, but I thought they were going to add new content for P3 MC as well?

Well, we'll see when it comes out.

I'm certain they said the male MC would get new content too. I think all his social links are covered arcana-wise, so adding more would be a bit messy.

I was thinking that they could add in alternative choices to an Arcana, kind of like the Sun S. Link.

new trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i85Itjr_nc

P4 Teacher Lady apparently makes a cameo, which means Rise may appear in September as well.

[satokiba]

new trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i85Itjr_nc

P4 Teacher Lady apparently makes a cameo, which means Rise may appear in September as well.

Is that The Desert of Doors from The Answer? It seems like they WILL explain her story, or new content, at least. Mm, I want it right now. ;_; What makes you say Rise will appear in September? O_o; Kashiwagi was in there, but why the month and stuff...?

I don't see why they won't allow us to have same sex-dating. I mean, a large part of the fanbase are fangirls who likes their yaoi. And yuri. I mean, P3 shouldn't be fanservice all the way, but allowing people to date the same sex would make it a better and more immersive experience for some.
I'd like to see that, just for the simple fact it'd be something different.

I'd enjoy that very much, and it wouldn't take too much to make it happen. But from the screens, they seem kinda like the girl's version shows her dating boys? But, I dunno. We'll see. I can only hope.

[Zacewing]

So maybe P3P will get The Answer after all.

[Emilio Morales]

Is that The Desert of Doors from The Answer?


I thought the same!! The changes they made look really awesome for a PSP game. But I really hope they add some new shadows to fight, 'cause it would be kind of boring to fight the same shadows for third time.

[unknown]

new trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i85Itjr_nc

P4 Teacher Lady apparently makes a cameo, which means Rise may appear in September as well.

Is that The Desert of Doors from The Answer? It seems like they WILL explain her story, or new content, at least. Mm, I want it right now. ;_; What makes you say Rise will appear in September? O_o; Kashiwagi was in there, but why the month and stuff...?

I think the Desert of Doors is just a mode where you can fight bosses again in P3P. Also Rise mentioned in P4 that she was in Gekkowhatever Island filming a secret shoot at Club Escapade during the power outages that the Hermit Full Moon Shadow boss was causing in September.

[Enzeru]

So, new costume for Ken, Hermit S. Link (for girl?) is Saori...Am I the only one now seeing the Desert of Doors? Someone said that one of the doors (which did not see, lol) said "Door of Empress and Emporer"...I think that it's probably just a way to fight hard versions of bosses.

[Eggn0g]

I'm seeing a lot of Shinji in that trailer... is he gonna live this time round or something?

[satokiba]

So, new costume for Ken, Hermit S. Link (for girl?) is Saori...Am I the only one now seeing the Desert of Doors? Someone said that one of the doors (which did not see, lol) said "Door of Empress and Emporer"...I think that it's probably just a way to fight hard versions of bosses.

A second or two after 0:51 of the trailer, I definitely see a level that isn'tTartarus and looks like DoD's levels. :/ Does anyone see it? That wasn't a block in Tartarus, that I know of. And the doors have the masks/symbols for the different Shadow Arcana on them, don't they?

[Enzeru]

A second or two after 0:51 of the trailer, I definitely see a level that isn'tTartarus and looks like DoD's levels. :/ Does anyone see it? That wasn't a block in Tartarus, that I know of. And the doors have the masks/symbols for the different Shadow Arcana on them, don't they?
Ohhhhhh! I see it now! xp

[Saburo Hikari]

Did I see a blushing Akihiko in one of the scans? :3

I also noticed new artwork for the All-Out Attacks and follow-up attacks. That's nice to see.

I also noticed that they are using Persona 4's Social Link rank up notice.

But is it just me, or did I hear the female protagonist's Orpheus with a female voice?! I thought his design was just going to be feminine, not his sex. Isn't Orpehus male in mythology?!

[Kenji]

Isn't Orpehus male in mythology?!
So is Eros.

It's just something you accept. It's easier when you remember that these are more or less just collective unconscious archetypes.

[Persona Fan]

Did I see a blushing Akihiko in one of the scans? :3

He was blushing when he first me Aigis so I don't know where this is going. :question:

[satokiba]

A second or two after 0:51 of the trailer, I definitely see a level that isn'tTartarus and looks like DoD's levels. :/ Does anyone see it? That wasn't a block in Tartarus, that I know of. And the doors have the masks/symbols for the different Shadow Arcana on them, don't they?

Ah, er. I was watching videos of P3, and I guess that place looks like Monad, where you fight Elizabeth? I dunno.

[tross]

The older woman on the beach didn't have a character portrait before, so it's not too much of a stretch to use that as an excuse for a Ms. Kashiwagi cameo. Rise had a gig in the night club in Port Island, which was canceled. I'm assuming it had to do with the hermit shadow.

But I don't think the MC was there at the time. Maybe if you go on a certain day, or more likely, night, you can trigger an event with her? Maybe you can also see her around during some days, in that month? Just a thought. Also, the ranks for social links will be displayed in the same way as P4. And that desert of doors section? I want this even more now.

[ichinukechuu]

It's nice to found that there will be some Persona games for the PSP and I was getting sort of tired of playing a male MC. But I kinda wish that they brought in a P2 remake, I heard a lot of praise coming from that game but I have no luck in finding the game and a playstation memory card. But I'm wondering, is it possible that there will be a Shinjiro social link and a way to prevent his unevitable end?

Did I see a blushing Akihiko in one of the scans? :3

I'm glad that someone spotted that, the whole fact of playing a female MC and establishing relationships with your team mates is the reason that I want to get the game now. When I first played P3 Fes, I had a small disliking to some characters *highlight* Junpei and Yukari . Hopefully the social links will change my opinion to those characters.

[Zacewing]

I'm seeing a lot of Shinji in that trailer... is he gonna live this time round or something?

I would so love this. Shinji was one of my favourite characters but I didn't want to use him cause I knew he was gonna croak in a month. :(

[Foobar]

Meh, Shinji's death was less contrived than Aerith's, I actually got the pleasure of looting him afterward.

[ichinukechuu]

I'm seeing a lot of Shinji in that trailer... is he gonna live this time round or something?

I would so love this. Shinji was one of my favourite characters but I didn't want to use him cause I knew he was gonna croak in a month. :(

I hope Shinjiro lives as well because he was an awesome character and a great team mate. Shame I didn't know he was going to die when I first played the game, I too much relied on him when it came to fighting shadows and some of the bosses.

[Emilio Morales]

Shinji was one of my favorite characters too, because he reminds me of Baofu, and since Baofu is another character from my favorite list, then I immediately felt a connection with Shinji. But as soon as I saw what happened to him... I began hating Ken. And of course, I will never forget one of his coolest lines: "Adios asshole" :D

I really hope Shinji lives, at least in the female scenario, since it won't make any sense for him live on Minato's path.

[Zacewing]

The only thing though is that Shinji's death was the catalyst for Akihiko and Ken's development and Persona evolutions.

[Eggn0g]

I like Shinji, but I think letting him live would bugger the story a bit, unless someone else died in his place.

[ShadowYuri]

I really hope Shinji lives, at least in the female scenario, since it won't make any sense for him live on Minato's path.

The only thing though is that Shinji's death was the catalyst for Akihiko and Ken's development and Persona evolutions.

Putting these two together, I think Shinji could live in the female scenario, because we're sure to get Akihiko and Ken's Social Links, which'll probably make their Persona evolve anyway.

On one of the last scans, I think I saw Akihiko talk to you in the male scenario, but I'm not sure it means we'll get Social Links for all team mates regardless of the MC'gender?

[Gen Eric Gui]

It's like you people didn't even play the game.

Shinji's death directly or indirectly causes every single one of the character's personal growths that lead to their Persona's evolution. If Shinji lives(or can be brought back), it cheapens his death and makes the entire story not work. He's the Heirophant for a reason, and without him dying the Fool's Tale doesn't work.


Putting these two together, I think Shinji could live in the female scenario, because we're sure to get Akihiko and Ken's Social Links, which'll probably make their Persona evolve anyway.


In case you've forgotten, Slinks in P3 don't work that way.

[Enzeru]

For Shinji, I think this would be good:

Ken has a social link, and so does Shinjiro. You can only start one. Whichever one you start lives. If you *really* just have to have both to live, then they could make it so that you have to max his S. Link before his death. That wouldn't make make much sense, though, because how would Akihiko's S. Link evolve? I could sort of see it still evolving if Ken dies (and another idea; he gets a different Persona if you kill of Ken), but both of them living...no.

Seriously guys, mark your spoilers! You're leaking some majour spoilers.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Game's been out forever, so I think it's passed it's "WE NEED TO MARK THE SPOILERS" phase, but whatever.

As for your suggestion, no, killing Ken wouldn't have the same effect as killing Shinjiro. First and foremost, it's not Justice's role in the Fool's story to teach and to help others grow, which is what Shinjiro's actions and death do for the other characters. Second, Shinjiro specifically has more fingers in the various plot pies the game presents; he's involved with Strega to some extent, he was connected to the old SEES group, and he's got more than a few emotional ties to Mitsuru as well as Akihiko. It just doesn't work the same way. Not even close. Your suggestion of giving Akihiko another Persona also completely misses the point of the Persona evolution in the first place.

I'll say it again. It's like you people didn't even play the original game. Which, haha, I gues necessitates the spoiler tags.

[kelvinc]

This is probably one of those instances where the P3/pre-P3 split shows up: stuff like it's not Justice's role in the Fool's story to teach and to help others grow is going to glaze over the vast majority of P3 players who have no idea that the characters in the plot are so closely integrated with the Tarot.
(I speak, of course, from personal experience, 'cuz I didn't realize this aspect of the plot until now.)

As for the evolution of Personas and how the mechanics differ in P3 and P4, what we've seen so far clearly hints that a lot of the mechanics in P3P are borrowing from P4, so I'm not 100% sure that just because that's the way it worked in P3 it would automatically stay that way. But yes, this aspect (plot-driven, not player-driven, persona evolution) was a major device used in the plot of P3 so it'll take some real rabbit-pulling-from-hat to make it work with player-driven persona evolution. (e.g. a player that chooses not to advance the Aigis SLink in a player-driven evolution system would seriously derail the plot.)

My general take on this is that they're taking a very very bold experiment with a very well-integrated arc to try to re-invent it with the female protagonist arc, which understandably riles some feathers. But the notion of an alternate arc appeals to me because I think it dials down a bit of the Chosen One aspect of the original plot: Minato wasn't so much Chosen as he was conveniently located 10 years ago, and it's time we see if the world would be saved if it had been someone else sitting around that bridge.

[Enzeru]

(I speak, of course, from personal experience, 'cuz I didn't realize this aspect of the plot until now.)
This. Not everyone has taken Symbolism III, and you can't assume they have.

As for the spoiler tags, no. Spoiler tags should always be used. I remember this happening with Nocturne, as well. Luckily I was just reading old posts and the spoiler tags are there now, and it's perhaps not the most surprising thing in the world that Shinjiro died, but there's always going to be people who have not yet played the game.

[ichinukechuu]

(I speak, of course, from personal experience, 'cuz I didn't realize this aspect of the plot until now.)
This. Not everyone has taken Symbolism III, and you can't assume they have.

As for the spoiler tags, no. Spoiler tags should always be used. I remember this happening with Nocturne, as well. Luckily I was just reading old posts and the spoiler tags are there now, and it's perhaps not the most surprising thing in the world that Shinjiro died, but there's always going to be people who have not yet played the game.

Sorry about not using the spoiler tag, I'll fix my current post. But anyways, I'm probably one of those people who doesn't go that deep into the game's plot. I mean I love the themes in the game but I never went deep into the tarot meanings. But thing is, this is actually the first game series that I really got into, I adore the final boss, the story, and have the free will of choosing your options. Right now, I'm deciding to buy the Persona remake just for the heck of it and to have the chance to play the Snow Queen quest.

[unknown]

But the notion of an alternate arc appeals to me because I think it dials down a bit of the Chosen One aspect of the original plot: Minato wasn't so much Chosen as he was conveniently located 10 years ago, and it's time we see if the world would be saved if it had been someone else sitting around that bridge.

The odds are, the world would still be saved even if someone else was sitting around that bridge. That being said you bringing up an interesting notion, if Atlus makes it so that P3 MC wasn't involved in the crash but FeMC was, then P3 MC might be hanging around GHS in the female scenario.

But there is a slight chance that FeMC will fail, which would make the game more interesting.

[digitalHECTOR]

I have a question will there be a digital version for the PSP Go, or just UMD version?

[kelvinc]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/product/

Second row, in brackets, (DL kanji stuff) basically says "Downloadable version will be simultaneously going on sale."

[Gen Eric Gui]

(I speak, of course, from personal experience, 'cuz I didn't realize this aspect of the plot until now.)
This. Not everyone has taken Symbolism III, and you can't assume they have.

As for the spoiler tags, no. Spoiler tags should always be used. I remember this happening with Nocturne, as well. Luckily I was just reading old posts and the spoiler tags are there now, and it's perhaps not the most surprising thing in the world that Shinjiro died, but there's always going to be people who have not yet played the game.

Just because some people didn't notice the symbolism doesn't mean you can just change things willy-nilly and it'll still retain the same impact it had. You don't have to be aware of the Tarot symbolism to understand that killing some other character wouldn't have even an iota of the impact that killing Shinjiro specifically had. The story was written for him to die, and if you change that half of the story doesn't make sense anymore. It's just like if they keep Ryoji and Pharos the same in the girl's story; I know that maybe not everybody grasped just who they're supposed to be, but it doesn't make sense for them to be Male if the MC isn't.

You can't just change stuff because "oh maybe some people didn't see the symbolism".


And I bet you're one of those people who gets mad when you say AERIS DIES without spoiler tags, aren't you? I mean, I can understand if the game is new, or if the spoiler is relevant to the entire plot of the game(like the killer's identity in P4), but after like three years I think we're kind of past "DON'T TELL THEM ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHO THE FIRST BOSS IS" territory.

[Yukichin]

And I bet you're one of those people who gets mad when you say AERIS DIES without spoiler tags, aren't you? I mean, I can understand if the game is new, or if the spoiler is relevant to the entire plot of the game(like the killer's identity in P4), but after like three years I think we're kind of past "DON'T TELL THEM ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHO THE FIRST BOSS IS" territory.

Er... the thing is, not everyone who's playing P3 has played it before. I personally am just barely beginning The Answer, and hadn't played P3 until the middle of last year. I think spoilers should still be marked.

And besides... the strictness of spoilers here isn't as bad as, say, GameFAQs. I got modded over there for mentioning Aerith's death... on the Advent Children board. XP

[Enzeru]

Just because some people didn't notice the symbolism doesn't mean you can just change things willy-nilly and it'll still retain the same impact it had. You don't have to be aware of the Tarot symbolism to understand that killing some other character wouldn't have even an iota of the impact that killing Shinjiro specifically had. The story was written for him to die, and if you change that half of the story doesn't make sense anymore. It's just like if they keep Ryoji and Pharos the same in the girl's story; I know that maybe not everybody grasped just who they're supposed to be, but it doesn't make sense for them to be Male if the MC isn't.

I'm not saying *I* want it to be changed. I'm saying that that *could* be something they *might* do. All I was saying is that you can't say that it's "like you haven't even played the game" just because I'm not too educated in symbolism.

OFF TOPIC: In light of this, though, I'm reading How to Read Literature Like a Professor. Good book.


And I bet you're one of those people who gets mad when you say AERIS DIES without spoiler tags, aren't you? I mean, I can understand if the game is new, or if the spoiler is relevant to the entire plot of the game(like the killer's identity in P4), but after like three years I think we're kind of past "DON'T TELL THEM ANYTHING NOT EVEN WHO THE FIRST BOSS IS" territory.Possibly; I don't think I've had many Final Fantasy VII story discussions, to be honest.

[Zacewing]

The MShe story most likely won't be canon anyway. They could change things around so that something else causes Akihiko and Ken's Persona evolutions and development.

[Evilkinggumby]

The MShe story most likely won't be canon anyway. They could change things around so that something else causes Akihiko and Ken's Persona evolutions and development.

Yeah. Ken dies. Since he wouldn't be a viable s.link due to his age (though there are some folk who'd get off on the female MC hookin up with a lil guy) and aside from his little mini-trajedy, he is not really vital to any other story arc. Then by Ken dying, Akihiko has a change of heart because Ken died without fully knowing the truth about his parents/avenging deaths, and Shinji slowly comes to have his own change of heart based on aforementioned events.. or possibly other events between him and Akihiko and Mitsuru later...

that gives you an alternate to let certain char's live, sacrificial char's die(and still a death with some weight, as Ken's story is really sad in itself and the death of a child hits home pretty deep for some folk.. Deaths of teens is also bad but.. well.. if you had to do the sliding scale.. ) and open chances for the Female MC to establish a few links.

Just speculating, mind you. Personally, i could give a rat's. I don't have the psp. :devil:

[Gen Eric Gui]

Since he wouldn't be a viable s.link due to his age

*facepalm*

Yes, because Minato was TOTALLY getting it on with Maiko.

Then by Ken dying, Akihiko has a change of heart because Ken died without fully knowing the truth about his parents/avenging deaths

You don't really get how this works, do you? Shinjiro's death is the only catalyst that works because they've been friends for years and years. It's BECAUSE of Shinjiro that Akihiko acts the way he does, and when Shinji kicks it he realizes that what he had been doing was wrong. Ken is some kid he had just met, and was only tangentally related to through Shinji. In fact, Akihiko's death would likely have more impact on Ken then the other way around. Ken's death would likely be more sad to the player, and to the characters in the game in general, but it wouldn't have even the smallest portion of the impact that Shinji's death has on Akihiko.

I mean, think about it for a damn second. Which would be more likely to be a huge, life-changing experience for you? Some elementry school kid you met a few months ago dying, or your best friend since preschool dying?

I could say it agin, but even I'm getting tired of hearing myself say it. And don't blame this one on "not understanding symbolism", because it's just common sense and basic understanding of the plot for crying out loud.

[Evilkinggumby]

Wow.. I must be gettin rusty in the buckets with the play by play on the game. I thought Akihiko and Shinji were who they were in large part because of the incident that ultimately involved Ken. I'll have to get a refresh when I play through a bit.

Either way I'ma keep fair distance from this ol' conversation from here on out as it sounds like yer getting a bit unhinged and I don't think I, or most other folk having a civil discussion here, deserve it.

So have a happy happy.

[Zacewing]

Why do you want to kill off Ken so badly? ;_;

[Gen Eric Gui]

Either way I'ma keep fair distance from this ol' conversation from here on out as it sounds like yer getting a bit unhinged and I don't think I, or most other folk having a civil discussion here, deserve it.

When the "civil discussion" centers around pretty much ruining everything that was special in the first place about the game you are talking about, you need to be told as such. You could have a "civil discussion" about how great it would be if "Rosebud" was Citizen Kane's favorite brand of frozen vegetables, but just because it was civil doesn't mean it wasn't ridiculous.

And Shinjiro was involved with Ken's accident, but Akihiko wasn't.

[satokiba]

Either way I'ma keep fair distance from this ol' conversation from here on out as it sounds like yer getting a bit unhinged and I don't think I, or most other folk having a civil discussion here, deserve it.

When the "civil discussion" centers around pretty much ruining everything that was special in the first place about the game you are talking about, you need to be told as such. You could have a "civil discussion" about how great it would be if "Rosebud" was Citizen Kane's favorite brand of frozen vegetables, but just because it was civil doesn't mean it wasn't ridiculous.

And Shinjiro was involved with Ken's accident, but Akihiko wasn't.

Is it wrong that most of what you say turns me on? |D Someone with sense, actually seeing the symbolism and things that DON'T need to be changed? Everything everyone says is a fun thought, and I'd kinda like to see Shinji live, but, I agree it would require a large amount of changing.

fds'fd;lsaf. See, this is why people shouldn't remake games. D:

[kelvinc]

I am going to take the optimist's route and assume if certain characters do not live or die as in the original plot, that there will be a coherent, acceptable explanation within the alternate plot that will not screw up all those other plot events and relationships. I am not going to assume that they are going to graft ridiculous events onto the existing plot just to make Shinjiro live.

On the flip side, I am unconvinced by arguments based on what actually happened in the existing original plot to argue against these graft ideas, because this will not be the original plot. If things are pretty close, then there'll be limits to what I think are acceptable changes. Can I see a scenario where Shinjiro lives? Yes, but it would probably also means retooling huge chunks of history like the seniors having fought shadows for years and the whole Amada incident. That's fine with me, because I'm open to the possibility that they might do that.

Honestly, I find GEG to be pretty cool-headed over in DToid comments, and if the morons over there (they're not all morons) can't rile him up, it makes me raise my eyebrow.

[Foobar]

I'm still baffled as to why people think there is a canon.

I mean, canon pretty much ended right with Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment's alternate realities. And that really was not the first time in SMT we've seen this in SMT, either. So couldn't the female protagonist just live in a reality where the male one never existed.

SMT is more of a multi-verse than a universe, after all. In a multiverse, all scenarios are valid and everything happened. Kinda like the last Star Trek movie is set in a divergent timeline - All the events of the previous timeline aren't nullified. They're still relevant and continuing, its just in this new timeline Kirk gets beat up more and Spock gets the girl. They're still Kirk and Spock, thier situation is just different from the original timeline.

Start taking everything as one universe and its no fun.

[Iris]

Why do you want to kill off Ken so badly? ;_;

I agree with this post. ;_; Keep the bullets away from my tiny batman.

[Zacewing]

Why do you want to kill off Ken so badly? ;_;

I agree with this post. ;_; Keep the bullets away from my tiny batman man-nurse.

Fixed.

[satokiba]

Why do you want to kill off Ken so badly? ;_;

I agree with this post. ;_; Keep the bullets away from my tiny shotalicious batman man-nurse.

Fixed.

Fixed.

[Hanamura Yousuke]

For an explination of why to kill off Ken refer to below

TIERS
God Tier:
Arisato, Koromaru

Top Tier:
Mitsuru, Akihiko

Mid Tier:
Yukaricchi, Junpei

STOP CASTING HAMAON ON NEARLY DEAD ENEMIES IDIOT! Tier:
Ken (and get a useful weapon while your at it)

Dead Tier:
Shinjiro XD

[kelvinc]

Oh the other hand, Ken + Koro + Metis means you're pretty much covered for all possible attacks for FES Answer.

But this isn't FES Answer.

I'm not sure if Mitsuru or Yukari would be Top Tier. Mitsuru does have Ice Amp, but Yukari doesn't Marin Karin and has Mediarahan.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Yeah, in terms of what allies actually need to do in P3, that list is all wrong. Mostly because Ken is second only to Koro because of his amazing resistances and his ability to cover so many bases in battle, and because Mitsuru is #### tier because her only purpose in battle is raw damage and your allies need to be SUPPORTING not attacking. Plus, look at all those wasted skill slots. At BEST she's a sub-par version of Yukari.

[satokiba]

Yeah, in terms of what allies actually need to do in P3, that list is all wrong. Mostly because Ken is second only to Koro because of his amazing resistances and his ability to cover so many bases in battle, and because Mitsuru is #### tier because her only purpose in battle is raw damage and your allies need to be SUPPORTING not attacking. Plus, look at all those wasted skill slots. At BEST she's a sub-par version of Yukari.

Ah! Finally, something to disagree with you about.

Depending on your party combination, everyone could be "wrong". The party didn't need to do anything, and I never, not once, /needed/ a buff. Mitsuru was one of my most useful party members. Yukari and Main Character healed, Aigis and Mitsuru dealt damage.

"Actually need to do in P3" is all wrong, indeed, because there is no right.

I never used Ken or Koromaru, and I didn't have any trouble beating it.

If there was a "right" way to use or have party members be, then that would be forcing you not to use them, or only use certain ones, and then the game would fail. Horribly.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I wasn't talking in absolutes. Generally speaking, the best strategy is to have Minato lay smack down and have the rest of the party support him via carrying around elements that he doesn't have (for knockdowns in normal battles) and by doing oddjobs like buffing and debuffing(for bosses), since most allies can't even come close to the damage potential that Minato has and using his turns to do mundane things like healing is ultimately a waste of his potential. I didn't say it was the -only- way to play the game, becuase obviously it is not, I'm just saying that it's arguably the most effective way.

That said, there's always a time and place that the characters are useful. Even Mitsuru, whom I would say was the worst character in the game, was still a must-have character in certain areas, like when fighting the Stasis Giants or any time Minato doesn't have a Persona to cast Bufu.

Ken and Koro are the most useful allies to have around in general, since they unquestionably have the best resistance spreads of your allies and they have a very broad range of skills to support Minato without a lot of chaff like Tentarafoo or Mind Charge for them to waste turns casting.

[Foobar]

Strange, I always considered Akihiko and Koru top-tier. Akihiko has all the best debuffs and Koru does the evasion buffs.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Akihiko is just as good as Ken and Koro offensively, with his large array of attack types (Especially that he's the only character to have debuffs and a Strike-type weapon), but he's not as solid when it comes to defense.

Basically, it comes down to this. You want a character with the fewest possible ways to die while also depriving enemies of turns via nulls. Every character gets one Null and one weakness, and everyone's weakness can be nulled with a Heart Item. So in terms of being able to null enemy attacks/turns, everybody is equal(although Aigis is arguably worse in this regard since Pierce attacks aren't really as common as elements from enemies). However, in nulling out Ken and Koro's weaknesses, you've also granted them full immunity to instant death. Even if, say, Yukari is equipped with Lightning Gloves to null out her Zio weakness, she can still get caught by Mudo and Hama spells. It won't give the enemy an extra turn, but it will deprive you of two turns(Yukari's turn and the turn of whoever has to Res her, probably Minato which is a huge loss to your total output). Koro and Ken have no elemental weaknesses, and once they're resistant to their light/dark weakness they get immunity to death free of charge. And Koro is even better because he gets an additional resistance to Fire that nobody else gets, giving him THREE resistances, which is amazing.

Basically, it comes down to those two in particular being resistant to arguably the most troublesome elements. This is also why Junpei is arguably weaker defensively than the other characters, since his two nulls (Wind, Fire) don't carry additional status ailment nulls(Stun and Freeze from Zio and Bufu, respectively).

[Hanamura Yousuke]

Look, everyone has their different playstyles. I enjoy going all out with elemental attacks and have some healing support. So I wont criticize your methods of fighting.

I can definitely understand how each person has their own tier definitions. But seriously. Ken just wastes all his SP on Hamaon, which is not a definite kill or damage dealer. It is also completely worthless in boss fights. His -Zio skills are fairly weak. Being weak to -Mudo skills causes a massive offset to his few Upsides.

Also, Spears are teh suck.

[satokiba]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/system/sys04-1.html


Oh...hey, this is new. Wait. Who does she remind you of? >_> That dot under her eye... Could it...Could it be?!

If she's got a last name, though, like Enzeru said, I dunno...but...When I look at her now, I can't think of anyone else but him.

[kelvinc]

I've read that she's supposedly the replacement Hermit SLink over Maya. She's some form of SLink, so I have my doubts, though that might not mean much if you recall the plot.
http://xcomprandomness.co.uk/2009/09/24/p3p-reminder-clips-and-music-samples/

But you're not the only one that finds her a bit off. Personally, I find she gives off all sorts of creepy gas station attendant vibe.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Look, everyone has their different playstyles. I enjoy going all out with elemental attacks and have some healing support. So I wont criticize your methods of fighting.

I can definitely understand how each person has their own tier definitions. But seriously. Ken just wastes all his SP on Hamaon, which is not a definite kill or damage dealer. It is also completely worthless in boss fights. His -Zio skills are fairly weak. Being weak to -Mudo skills causes a massive offset to his few Upsides.

Also, Spears are teh suck.


Yeah, everyone has their own method of playing, but that doesn't mean there isn't a way that is more effective then another. It might be my method of playing to make Jupei do healing duty, since he technically can, but this is obviously less effective then letting Yukari or Aigis do it.

If Ken is wasting SP on Hamaon, you're not using the command menu correctly. And given that most of your allies don't really do that much damage anyway and that Hamaon is a 70% chance to instantly kill on anything that doesn't resist light(And is like an 85% chance to kill on things that are weak to it) it's a pretty good use of his turn, generally speaking. And no, his Zio spells only suck compared to Minato, he has equivalent MAG to Akihiko(It might be slightly higher since Aki tends to favor STR) and does about the same damage as his.

As for his weakness, yes, it's arguably worse then an elemental weakness if it's hit, but Mudo is a pretty rare skill among enemies in this game, and it's also painfully easy to Null out, since the Heart Item that Nulls Dark comes from Thanatos, which is a Persona you basically can't miss.

And Spears are just as good as every other weapon type, I have no idea why you would say they were bad. I mean, 2H swords and Axes are the only weapons I can really see as being bad due to their lower hit %, but everything else is practically identical.

[blammo]

Is there ANY chance of Atlus announcing a NA release of P3P at the TGS?

[Zacewing]

Doubtful.

Also, if you set Ken's AI to Knock Down or Full Assault he won't use Hama spells. I usually have him set to Heal/Support, though.

And Minato's purpose isn't ONLY damage. I know some people who use him as their healer because they don't like trusting their healing to the AI.

[Gen Eric Gui]

How many times do I have to repeat myself? I'm fully aware that Minato -can- serve other purposes; one of his biggest strenghts is that he can fill every role you could ever need him to, but the fact remains that he has obscene damage output that the other characters put together can't match, and so his -best- use is for that specific purpose.

Just because he's best at doing one thing doesn't mean he can't do other things(And it also doesn't mean he should just do that all the time, because then you're wasting his ability to perform all functions). It's just that if he's doing other things he is not being used to his full potential. So yes, Minato should have access to healing spells and should heal if things look shaky or if other characters become unable to effectively do so. It's a key to survival, especially in Hard mode or when you're late in the game/in Monad. However, making it his prime directive in battle is a waste when for 90% of situations the AI can handle things just fine, and especially when most battles could be over before anyone has a chance to be hurt if he just goes on all-out offense.


It's like in a fighting game. Arakune is one of the best characters in Blazblue becuase he has an ludicrously effective rushdown/trap game. He can be played other ways, but ultimately the best and most effective way to play him is with trap/rushdown strategies.

[kelvinc]

To put it another way, every other character grows from a Ford Focus to something like a Mustang, or maybe an F-150, or whatever. It's true that Minato can also be a Mustang or an F-150, but nobody else can grow into a Formula One car. So you're using Minato much more effectively as an F1 car than a Mustang, even if you win the game both ways.

But that's something that just takes time to pick up. For example, I never traded gems for cards when I first played P3, and I did just fine (then again, I was on Easy mode), but after trading in for a ton of cards in FES Answer, things were actually a bit TOO easy at the end. I'll never go back to my old way of playing, but I'd think I'd be somewhat ticked or discouraged if someone kept telling "no you really should be doing this and that."

Honestly, for JRPGs, I care much more about the plot than gameplay.

Is this thing thoroughly derailed yet?

[Enzeru]

Honestly, for JRPGs, I care much more about the plot than gameplay.
Uh oh...You've uttered (typed) the forbidden phrase...Prepare to die.

Will update video with Saori's name. @_@

EDIT: Go to the Index Page, choose the first quest (why they didn't use Theodore I will never know), go to the character page, click on Yukari, and click on the box. That finishes the quest and you will be greeted with a short video.

Or, click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNocc-gOKgI)!

[kelvinc]

Honestly, for JRPGs, I care much more about the plot than gameplay.
Uh oh...You've uttered (typed) the forbidden phrase...Prepare to die.
Erm... ...I mean, the gameplay on Atlus JRPGs is so good that it's practically seamless and transparent, so I never dwell on it because I'm totally captured by the equal awesomeness of the plot! :D

[Megaknees]

Obby. (http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q440/Tachibana_Chikoku/Female%20P3MC/ab7696a589cde572e98123369b26ad70.png)FemC is going to have so much fun.

[satokiba]

It's like in a fighting game... Blazblue...

Guilty Gear > BallzBloo

/offtopic

[Gen Eric Gui]

It's like in a fighting game... Blazblue...

Guilty Gear > BallzBloo

/offtopic

For more offtopic fun, I'll point out that Guilty Gear has had more iterations so BB has an excuse for being "worse" at the moment. But they're fixing it, as they're rolling out a new version soon.

[satokiba]

It's like in a fighting game... Blazblue...

Guilty Gear > BallzBloo

/offtopic

For more offtopic fun, I'll point out that Guilty Gear has had more iterations so BB has an excuse for being "worse" at the moment. But they're fixing it, as they're rolling out a new version soon.

It really is pretty, though. I have high hopes for it.

[Enzeru]

TGS 09 Trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWMYxWz1av4

[kelvinc]

Not digging the nonchalant looks of MC and FeMC in the pile-on pic (they changed it for Minato as well, though I can't recall which video I saw that). Otherwise, still awesome.

Also, totally digging the new opening theme song.

[Saburo Hikari]

Obby. (http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q440/Tachibana_Chikoku/Female%20P3MC/ab7696a589cde572e98123369b26ad70.png)FemC is going to have so much fun.Makes me want to see some 4koma comics the female protagonist in Social Links.

Also, I'm really digging the new theme song too. Hope a full version of this song's in the soundtrack if one is released. I didn't like Burn My Dread.

[satokiba]

I didn't like Burn My Dread.

Impossible. D8

[Gachimayaa]

The ad clearly says that the protagonist can be female and it's new.


But why pay again for a game I already played? This is like Square releasing FF I and II on EVERY system known to Mankind and making me pay money each time for the same game...


I arm sad. Me wait for Persona 5.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Posted this in the localize P3P topic too, but the Limited Edition was announced for Japan... tshirt, character sleeves, calendar, ect.

[Enzeru]

Here's hoping for a P3P S. Link Expansion Pack!

The spoils for P3P could be the MShe's soundtrack, and the S. Link Expansion could have the T-Shirt, Calendar, Some Random Thing, and the MC Soundtrack!

But if they put one soundtrack on one side of the CD and another on the other side I'm set.

[hickwarrior]

Meh, I don't like trailers in general anyway... Just let me look at the gameplay. Which I've already seen on youtube.

Anyway, if there's an atlus spoils for this, I hope it's the soundtrack. I would be happy with just that.

[Eggn0g]

But why pay again for a game I already played? This is like Square releasing FF I and II on EVERY system known to Mankind and making me pay money each time for the same game...

Not the best comparison in the world, Atlus have added more new content in P3P than SE have EVER added to FF1+2.

But yeah, I hope this doesnt become a habbit...

[Gwendolyn]

But why pay again for a game I already played? This is like Square releasing FF I and II on EVERY system known to Mankind and making me pay money each time for the same game...

They pretty much did that anyways. I know for certain that Final Fantasy I was released for PSOne, then the FF1+2 games for the GBA, and then they released those two games separately for the PSP.

[satokiba]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/velvetroom/index.html

I can't figure this out. Someone help. ;_;

[Crow T. Robot]

Posted this in the localize P3P topic too, but the Limited Edition was announced for Japan... tshirt, character sleeves, calendar, ect.
I bet the t shirt is gonna be large
/:

[Chaochio]

I wouldn't mind buying the game again. They added enough to have me satisfied with the purchas.e I might wait and see if it goes best seller though. Because then it would only be $20. I really wanted them to add a female protagonist and they did. I really hope they do the same thing for persona 4.

[marche1990]

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/velvetroom/index.html

I can't figure this out. Someone help. ;_;

sure, those are videos that you can unlock, taking one or the two of those "quest" to search for a case, the first one is under the yukari profile, the second one is on the s.link video of the new strength character

[Zacewing]

Well, after I buy P3P I'll probably sell my copy of FES for a ridiculous price on eBay or something so I don't mind buying it again. :P

[satokiba]

Somebody brought up the fact that Shinji's alive in the sixth block in one of the trailers. I haven't played in forever, so I can't remember if that's true or means anything.

[MomoChan]

I found it odd seeing Kashiwagi in the trailer, and during the Yakushima part no less. Could it be that she's... the "woman" with a couple of missed facial hair spots that was trying to reel in Junpei?

If not, then oh well.

[Fatney]

Kashiwagi is not a transvestite. Just so you know.

[Enzeru]

But it would explain everything! xD

[Worm]

This girl looks a little too happy for all the original protagonist's whiny nihilist answers to quests "life is meaningles :(", so that will at least make it a little fun to play through giving the most suicidal replies you can constantly.

[Yukari_Aurica]

Persona 3 for the PSP has been my dream ever since FES was out, so I will--no-- MUST get it!!! I hope Atlus USA WILL localize it in English no matter what...!

[tross]

I found it odd seeing Kashiwagi in the trailer, and during the Yakushima part no less. Could it be that she's... the "woman" with a couple of missed facial hair spots that was trying to reel in Junpei?

If not, then oh well.

No, I think she's The older woman who said that she's "more experienced" I don't think the "beautiful woman?" was female. But I could be wrong. I'm sure he/she would have a character portrait too though, and may be another cameo, though who, I can't say.

[MomoChan]

Kashiwagi is not a transvestite. Just so you know.

Maybe so... but let's just see if the script gets altered.

Because as far as I know, the first two Babe Hunt flops were in groups (3, then 2), and the aforementioned you-know-what was there solo. It also showed in the trailer that Kashiwagi was solo, so I couldn't help but speculate.

[unknown]

Her appearance is probably just one of the new events they added for the P3 MC.

Here's hoping that Rise appears in September for him too...

[Eggn0g]

Yukiko is in P3P
http://yfrog.com/7619307wwwdotuporg2563851j
...Wait, what? I thought she always lived in Inaba?

[kelvinc]

Yukiko is in P3P
http://yfrog.com/7619307wwwdotuporg2563851j
...Wait, what? I thought she always lived in Inaba?

It looks like they're visiting Inaba and staying at the Amagi Inn.

[MomoChan]

Yukiko had short hair at her third year of junior high? How cute. ^o^

[unknown]

P3 MC gets Kashiwagi, and FeMC gets Yukiko?

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/P3-1.jpg

[Yukichin]

Hmmm. I'm a little iffy on her inclusion. It could be really cool, or it could wind up being total fanservice...

[unknown]

Uh, it IS fanservice.

Though this entire game is pretty much fanservice.

[Enzeru]

Young Yukiko = Cute!

[AdrianMorales]

Here is another reason to pick the girl: at one point she takes a trip to Inaba. While visiting, she stays at the Amagiya Inn and meets a younger version of Yukiko.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx178/AdrianMorales_album/P3P/p3pyukiko.jpg

[Kukki]

It seems like you can choose whether to have Elizabeth or Theodore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcFJ4s0yStg
You choose whether you see a man or a woman.

I wonder if this has to do with who you can date?

[Fatney]

I hope the male MC goes to Inaba too. Maybe he'll go on an embarrassing date with Kanji...

[Jalopy]

I hope the male MC goes to Inaba too. Maybe he'll go on an embarrassing date with Kanji...

It doesn't seem like that's the case. The trip is just one of the differences between the two characters. , which was kind of the main point for this week's Famitsu article.




Also, I had posted this in the " Game Suggestion" P3P thread, but I guess it belongs here. Soundtrack information:

Some songs are different depending on the gender. The tracks known to have been replaced are:

http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/special/sound.html

-Semester one school (Track 4)
-Semester two school (http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/index.html , click on MShe during the day
-Town (Track 2)
-Regular battle (Heard during http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/special/pv02-1.html)
-Tartarus Boss Battle - Was on the extra page, then was taken down. It will probably end up on the music page on Monday.
-Joy (one of the S. Link tracks) - currently on p3p.atlusnet.jp/extra/index.html

There's also the new opening move
http://p3p.atlusnet.jp/introduction/index.html

An OST CD is being released in November, so I'm assuming there's more tracks coming, probably some associated with the Vision Quest (The Answer's replacement). The music page on the official site has room for 24 songs (12 MShe, 12 for MC)

[Ryo_Suzuki]

So, does anyone know where I can pre-order the deluxe edition? Play-asia, yes-asia, and ncsx doesn't have it up for sale. I guess I have to pre-order the game only. :(


Maybe I should wait until someone puts it up on ebay...

[unknown]

It doesn't seem like that's the case. The trip is just one of the differences between the two characters. , which was kind of the main point for this week's Famitsu article.

DAMMIT

[Enzeru]

New video~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MncRY77CPU

Nice, lengthy video. Lookin' good!

[MomoChan]

Hopefully, they'd show more vids with the new costumes and the oddball weapons later on as the JP release date inches closer.

Saw a screencap with Mitsuru wearing a Sexy Santa outfit and carrying a big drill...

...talk about fanservice. ^o^

[Zacewing]

Well, the JP release date is in 2 weeks as of tomorrow. I can't believe it's that soon already. O_o

[Jalopy]

I don't expect to see many (or any) more extra costumes than what we've seen so far. Santa for girls, tuxedos for guys, plus the ability to wear seasonal clothing or uniforms in battle.

[Blizz]

Man If atlus comes out with more remakes of persona's Im going to have to buy each one of them lol. Is there any release date for this?

[ShinMog]

No US release date that I know of.

Also, not really looking forward to having to restart my compendium from scratch yet again :(

[Ryo_Suzuki]

http://imepita.jp/20091021/379200
Famitsu gives it a 32

[Enzeru]

Straight 8s. That's good in my book.

[Jackstar]

So, does anyone know where I can pre-order the deluxe edition? Play-asia, yes-asia, and ncsx doesn't have it up for sale. I guess I have to pre-order the game only. :(


Maybe I should wait until someone puts it up on ebay...

http://ebten.jp/p/7015009100101/

If it isn't at Konamistyle or e-Capcom, it is likely to be at ebten. Show Playasia and NCSX this link and bug them to secure copies of it. :p

[Enzeru]

Someone made a translation of a comedy-ish version of the TGS trailer that was up but now replaced by a Thoe wallpaper:

(T = Theodore, E = Elizabeth; I edited it to be slightly less Engrish-y)
E: A~TLUS!!
T: Sis, youn are going too fast!
E: Teo, it already started.
T: R-right..
E: Everyone, nice to meet you again. This is Elizabeth. Finally, the day I can introduce things without my master. Let's show you some...
T: S-Sis! What about me? Only you're speaking...
E: I forgot, this is my not exactly worthy little brother Theodore.
T: What kind of introduction is that?!
E: Hey Teo, we are in front of out customer!
T: Err...
E: Let's begin with this video. We've it watched a lot of times, but it is still amazing to see Persona summoning.
T: It is, but, sis, we should really say more about Velvet room..
E: Hmm... Then let's talk about how long our Master's nose is!
T: W-what?! Why that?!
E: Shhh! Quiet! The battle loading times are supposed to be very short...
T: Whoa. Then these are the normal day time scened? They seem like much more pleasant scenes...
E: PSP is a handheld console, so we optimized it for portability.
T: Op... Optimized?
E: Brother...
T: I.. I know that word! Hahaha...
E: In this version, we get two different kinds of visitors.
T: Whether you're male or female, there will be a lot of unique scenes.
E: I will become a male.
T: No you won't!
E: Teo will become a female.
T: W-what?! N-no I won't!
E: Then our Master will become...
T: P-lease stop!
E: Jam packed with tons of content, must be expensi~ve.
T: Why are you speaking Jika-net style(?)...? Look, it is almost over.
E: Well Teo, time to do this properly
T: W-what are my words?!
E: You can say the title this time. 1...2...3...Go!
T: Ah, uh, Persona Portable 2009 on sale November 1.
E: Sigh, you were supposed to say that in a funny way...

[Andy]

So, does anyone know where I can pre-order the deluxe edition? Play-asia, yes-asia, and ncsx doesn't have it up for sale. I guess I have to pre-order the game only. :(


Maybe I should wait until someone puts it up on ebay...

http://ebten.jp/p/7015009100101/

If it isn't at Konamistyle or e-Capcom, it is likely to be at ebten. Show Playasia and NCSX this link and bug them to secure copies of it. :p

That stuff looks wicked cool. I know Atlus does their NA fans proud, but I'm tempted to get that stuff just in case we don't get spoiled with a huge package over here.

Ken is on my birthday month in the calendar. blah

[Hanamura Yousuke]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the entire Female Protagonist's new battle track? I keep on hearing the first 5 seconds of it, and I long for more!

[Kenji]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the entire Female Protagonist's new battle track? I keep on hearing the first 5 seconds of it, and I long for more!
I doubt you'll be able to (cough) buy the official soundtrack CD until November 25. The game doesn't come out in Japan until Nov. 1, anyway.

It truly baffles me why people insist on asking about downloads on the official Atlus forums...

[Chie_fan]

I'm pretty psyched for this, the fact that it isn't a simple port just makes it even beter.

[Hanamura Yousuke]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the entire Female Protagonist's new battle track? I keep on hearing the first 5 seconds of it, and I long for more!
I doubt you'll be able to (cough) buy the official soundtrack CD until November 25. The game doesn't come out in Japan until Nov. 1, anyway.

It truly baffles me why people insist on asking about downloads on the official Atlus forums...

Are actual atlus employees constantly scanning these forums? Even if they did see it, then what exactly would they do?

Secondly, I asked because this is where all the hardcores whom obsess with persona/persona products gather. Greatly increasing my chances of getting a lead.

[unknown]

Yeah, and if they saw it, they would ban you.

[ichinukechuu]

I don't expect to see many (or any) more extra costumes than what we've seen so far. Santa for girls, tuxedos for guys, plus the ability to wear seasonal clothing or uniforms in battle.

If you checked on the official website, Koromaru has an additional outfit. Also if you checked on the blog posts or on the official site, you'll find that Minako( or MShe) can wear the maid outfit, bikini, or high cut armor. Also if you checked on the blog posts, there's additional images that might make you happy to those who are Shinjiro fans( is it possible he has a social link?). There's an image of Shinjiro smiling, Junpei blushing, and Akihiko in the bed room(possibly the end of his social link if you play as the female).

http://www.famitsu.com/blog/p3p/

[Rednusander]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the entire Female Protagonist's new battle track? I keep on hearing the first 5 seconds of it, and I long for more!
I doubt you'll be able to (cough) buy the official soundtrack CD until November 25. The game doesn't come out in Japan until Nov. 1, anyway.

It truly baffles me why people insist on asking about downloads on the official Atlus forums...

Are actual atlus employees constantly scanning these forums? Even if they did see it, then what exactly would they do?

Yes, we are! Hi there!

Discussion of or especially direct linking to pirated or illegally obtained materials, with special concern for those pertaining to games and products Atlus USA or its parent company has released is frowned upon to the point of immediate, no-questions asked baninnation.

Which means your seemingly innocent inquiry would doom anyone foolhardy enough to post a link.