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beastxjason
08-05-2009, 10:05 AM
This is so messed up you rescue him hes in nexus he dissapears, wtf is going on with this npc? He never even gave me the key to the king? So frustrating. Been to numerous forums and have scene the same complaint over and over again. Might want to add that to the things to do for the na release. :very_sad:

Silent_gig
08-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Ostrava isnt broken, when he disappeares from the Nexus it probabaly means your close to King Allant.

Hes supposed to give you the key to Doran on the steps leading up to King Allant. If hes not there then youve missed something out. (Like rescuring Biorr of The Twin Fangs from his prison)

Kalissian
08-05-2009, 03:27 PM
He's not broken.

SPOILER















You have to rescue him once in each section of 1-x. If you keep him alive, he'll give you a key to the door guarded by the red eye knight in 1-1.

beastxjason
08-07-2009, 08:13 AM
I got 53 posts on my site and other numerous sites stating same thing. Rescued in 1-1 doesnt appear after at all. On 2nd playthrough I immediately killed him to avoid the drama.

Potato21
08-07-2009, 08:20 AM
He's not out in the open like he was in 1-1,Spoilers...probably?




go down into the wall instead of just running right across it, explore a bit and you'll find him behind a gate asking for help

GamerSam
08-10-2009, 03:54 AM
nevermind what they ^^^ said.

Jorlen
10-01-2009, 07:55 AM
In my many playthroughs, I can confirm that Ostrava is bugged in the asian 1.04 version but it's RARE.

What seems to happen is you rescue him in 1-1 but if you happen to redo that level (i.e. die) he will need rescuing again. IMO once rescued he should disappear from 1-1 but he doesn't. Now, something happens to him in 1-1 (the bug) rarely that will cause him to a) Not show up in 1-2 and b) Not leave his usual drop (key) he would when he gets killed.

I've experienced this myself so I can confirm that it happens.

CUR715
10-01-2009, 02:17 PM
He's not bugged at all!

Aside from the fact we know you have to save him on 1-1, 1-2 & 1-3:

If you're on NG+ and don't help him on 1-1 after he drops down, the Blue Eyed Knight will probably kill him!

Just today, i started a brand new game - I met Ostrava and helped him, then i went to the Dragon's nest and did a suicide run to grab the Strength Ring (totally worth it). When i respawned and got back to his location, he was already down to 20% health - so i let him die and picked up the Mausoleum Key, then left.

ZomDizae
10-01-2009, 02:40 PM
What CUR715 said, he is not broken but he get's easily killed on your second visit - especially in NG+ and up. The problem is with the item drop itself, if you reenter 1-1 after Ostrava is being killed without the player noticing, the key will spawn where he died. Now, if you're not aware of this and just leave and reenter 1-1, the key is gone! Once the key is dropped it's the exact same behavior like other dropped items; exit the stage and they vanish.

Before patch 1.03 got released, Ostrava was indeed glitchy as hell, especially in 1-3. But now that this is fixed, people messing up just assume "it must be the Ostrava glitch I've heard of"...

Quig
10-01-2009, 04:06 PM
Sure... Don't know anything about this yet, but I do remember reading someplace that Atlus did fix a few glitches for the North American release, as well as clean up some lines. Hopefully, these things you speak of, they looked into.

ZomDizae
10-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Sure... Don't know anything about this yet, but I do remember reading someplace that Atlus did fix a few glitches for the North American release, as well as clean up some lines. Hopefully, these things you speak of, they looked into.
ATLUS has nothing to do with fixing the game - it's all in FROM SOFT's hands and they already did so and released the patches for the Japanese & Asian versions too.

Jorlen
10-02-2009, 05:58 AM
What CUR715 said, he is not broken but he get's easily killed on your second visit - especially in NG+ and up. The problem is with the item drop itself, if you reenter 1-1 after Ostrava is being killed without the player noticing, the key will spawn where he died. Now, if you're not aware of this and just leave and reenter 1-1, the key is gone! Once the key is dropped it's the exact same behavior like other dropped items; exit the stage and they vanish.

Before patch 1.03 got released, Ostrava was indeed glitchy as hell, especially in 1-3. But now that this is fixed, people messing up just assume "it must be the Ostrava glitch I've heard of"...

I thought I read somewhere that special items (yurt's armor, ostrava's key) stay at the spot of death even after exiting/reloading that stage. I guess it's not true. Well that explains a lot then!

ZomDizae
10-02-2009, 11:18 AM
I thought I read somewhere that special items (yurt's armor, ostrava's key) stay at the spot of death even after exiting/reloading that stage. I guess it's not true. Well that explains a lot then!
I'm not sure if the Gloom Set vanishes or not but I can pretty much confirm that Scirvir's drop in 2-2 doesn't respawn upon re-entering: Pushed Scirvir down the ledge -> reloaded the game, loot was there -> before picking up loot I... uh... let's just say "I slipped" -> re-entered 2-2, no loot to be found. -_-
I assume all NPC drops work the same.

SasugaRIVAL
10-07-2009, 06:48 AM
In the deluxe edition strategy guide they mention something weird about Ostrava in 1-2 that you have to constantly rescue him if you rescue him once before killing the tower knight.

I didn't read this so I went ahead and rescued him and then decided to go back to the nexus for arrows to kill the dragon. Will i have to keep going into that tunnel with the crossbowmen to save him everytime until I kill the tower knight? The strat guide was unclear about this.

ZomDizae
10-07-2009, 07:03 AM
In the deluxe edition strategy guide they mention something weird about Ostrava in 1-2 that you have to constantly rescue him if you rescue him once before killing the tower knight.

I didn't read this so I went ahead and rescued him and then decided to go back to the nexus for arrows to kill the dragon. Will i have to keep going into that tunnel with the crossbowmen to save him everytime until I kill the tower knight? The strat guide was unclear about this.
No, he is already rescued from that place there, I *think* the strategy guide is more referring to the fact that he wanders around after being freed and can easily be targeted by respawning enemies. As long as you always check on him, you should be fine.

Karkarov
10-09-2009, 06:31 AM
Yeah Zom is correct, he will respawn but his initial encounter you saved him from is clear. He tends to wander some though so he may run into some enemies. As long as you are quick about getting to where he is you will likely beat him to any mobs that will pose a threat to him.

Ckarasu
10-09-2009, 10:42 AM
Where is he in 1-3? I never encountered him in my run through there.

Deiser
10-09-2009, 01:04 PM
I defeated Phalanx then went back and rescued Ostrava in 1-1 for the first time (and also killed every enemy that would encounter him on his route). However, after doing that I went back to the Nexus and noticed that he wasn't sitting on the beam in the main area. I go back to 1-1... and he's completely disappeared, despite making sure that he was completely safe.

Has he moved on to 1-2?

Sferzar
10-09-2009, 01:11 PM
Yeah, once you rescue him in 1-1 he goes and gets himself in trouble on 1-2. He wil go to the Nexus once you saved him there.

Karkarov
10-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Where is he in 1-3? I never encountered him in my run through there.

He appears in front of the gate the fat official blocks. You need to proc that event then return to the nexus and then come back to get him to be there.

Ckarasu
10-09-2009, 05:21 PM
Where is he in 1-3? I never encountered him in my run through there.

He appears in front of the gate the fat official blocks. You need to proc that event then return to the nexus and then come back to get him to be there.

I already found him.

SpiritThief
10-09-2009, 09:09 PM
So is it easier to just kill him and get the key? I'm wary about saving him in 1-2. I've beat the tower knight but I still need to go back and get him now.

Won't he get killed by the dragon?

ZomDizae
10-10-2009, 03:09 AM
So is it easier to just kill him and get the key? I'm wary about saving him in 1-2. I've beat the tower knight but I still need to go back and get him now.

Won't he get killed by the dragon?
He doesn't walk around where the dragon is - he just works his way towards the top of the first tower.

Demon Baby
10-11-2009, 09:29 AM
I wish i knew more about this bug. I rescued him in 1-1 and died later on. After beating the phalanx, he's not behind the gate in 1-2. Later on I went to get the theif ring, and I didn't see him or his drop. Not sure if I should start over or what.

Is this a game breaker or what? I don't want to continue if this will cause problems later on.

Karkarov
10-11-2009, 03:14 PM
I wish i knew more about this bug. I rescued him in 1-1 and died later on. After beating the phalanx, he's not behind the gate in 1-2. Later on I went to get the theif ring, and I didn't see him or his drop. Not sure if I should start over or what.

Is this a game breaker or what? I don't want to continue if this will cause problems later on.

Are you sure you stayed with him after the rescue. There is one particular foe in 1-1 that WILL defeat him in combat if you let him fight them alone. Even if you did on your second visit he can potentially walk into that same foe again if you don't get there first. It is possible when you killed phalanx he was simultaneously getting slaughtered somewhere else.

Obsidian
10-11-2009, 04:22 PM
Someone please help me with this one...

I saved Ostrava in 1-1.
I saved Ostrava in 1-2.

Ostrava apparently died and is now in my Nexus.

I have not received a key or seen any kind of drop from Ostrava in 1-1 or 1-2.

What am I missing?

Sferzar
10-11-2009, 04:33 PM
So you haven't received the binoculars nor the dark moon grass? (or whatever that is called.) Ostrava goes to the Nexus once you save him both times. I believe there is something else you have to do on 1-3 to get his key.

Obsidian
10-11-2009, 04:43 PM
I received the Telescope as well as the Dark Moon Grass, but I didn't receive a key. I haven't entered 1-3 yet, because I haven't seen an archdemon (no idea where that is yet), but I was just trying to make sure I hadn't missed something.

Karkarov
10-11-2009, 04:50 PM
I received the Telescope as well as the Dark Moon Grass, but I didn't receive a key. I haven't entered 1-3 yet, because I haven't seen an archdemon (no idea where that is yet), but I was just trying to make sure I hadn't missed something.

If you have the tower knight down and he is in the nexus you are good to go. He will stay in the nexus until you enter 1-3 for the first time. You need to rescue him there (almost impossible not to notice his encounter once he spawns) and if you kill the boss right after or before the rescue you are in the green. In 1-4 there is no rescue etc you just eventually reach him.

Obsidian
10-11-2009, 05:01 PM
Thank you!

Demon Baby
10-11-2009, 05:12 PM
Are you sure you stayed with him after the rescue. There is one particular foe in 1-1 that WILL defeat him in combat if you let him fight them alone. Even if you did on your second visit he can potentially walk into that same foe again if you don't get there first. It is possible when you killed phalanx he was simultaneously getting slaughtered somewhere else.

Yeah, after i rescued him, I was just curious as to where he was going. I followed him a bit and he was just walking in circles so I moved on. The whole area was cleared out anyway.

Apparently he's not super important anyway, so I reckon I can still finish the game without him.

ddh4ms
10-12-2009, 01:00 PM
Yeah Zom is correct, he will respawn but his initial encounter you saved him from is clear. He tends to wander some though so he may run into some enemies. As long as you are quick about getting to where he is you will likely beat him to any mobs that will pose a threat to him.

I can vouched for this, because thats how my Ostrava dissapeared. Either he died or something weird happen.

I did multiple restart to farm the red eyed knight after rescued Ostrava. I did not go and check him.
by the time i killed Phalanx, i went to the place where he was supposed to be found in 1-2. I didnt see anyone there...
ugh...

is Ostrava side quest important???

Numenor
10-17-2009, 06:27 AM
I got a question about this. I saved him in 1-1,1-2, and 1-3 even got the Pure stone. Now when I killed the Blue dragon the only thing that was there was the BP form of him.... Any ideas? I wanted Doran's armor ...

NG+ Ostrava is a dead man in 1-1 :mad:

DocBooch
10-17-2009, 07:36 AM
@Numenor, the same thing happened to me in the Asian version on my first play through. I let him die by the blue eye in NG+ in 1-1. :devil::devil:

HijiriOni
10-17-2009, 03:04 PM
I have to agree something is broken with Ostrava

I rescued him in 1-1, he appeared in my nexus sitting on the beam, then after I went to 1-2 he dissappeared from the nexus and I can't find him in 1-2 at all, I've looked everywhere...even checked a guide where he's located and watched a youtube video, he doesn't appear in the spot where the video shows at all. I've since killed the tower knight and he still doesn't appear.

Is there some CT/WT requirement to get him to appear?

TechnicolorPants
10-17-2009, 03:37 PM
I liked Ostrava. Saving him three times made me feel like he was a friend. Even when my Large Sword of Searching was backstabbing him to his death, I felt bad. I didn't care about his loot, just the key. That Doran armor will be worth my temporary sadness.