Will the "Atlus version" have any added features? (Spoiler free please!)

[>:-(]

Will the Demon's Souls from Atlus have any added features compared to the Asian version released months ago? Kind of like what they did with Crimson Gem Saga and Growlanser: Heritage of War?

Or will it just be a simple localization?

[sarshelyam]

There has been no matter-of-fact statements regarding this. I would expect nothing, but ATLUS still has plenty of time in the next 3 months leading up to the release to make a statement. I would suggest bookmarking this forum for an official anouncement if one is coming.

[backspace90]

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll be touching the core mechanics of the game nor adding anything else. I think the difference the NA version will have is the art book ... and guide... Though nothing's official I guess.

[>:-(]

I was thinking of something along new voices or texts. Because from what I understand the Asian version might have been in english, but unlike the Asian version of Siren: New Translation in Demon's Souls the only english was english texts.

[sarshelyam]

That is incorrect. The Asian releases were in FULL ENGLISH, text, dialogue, all of it. The voiceovers were quality as well so there's really no reason whatsoever to redo or add anything in this regard.

[Zeta_Nova]

As with sarshelyam

I'd say your comment is invalid > : - (. And as also reported by Wikipedia's D.S section as well;

There are three different versions currently available:
Japanese: English voiceovers; menus and subtitles in Japanese.
Asian (Hong Kong/Singapore): Both full English and Chinese voicework, menus and text.
Asian (Korean): English voicework; both English and Korean text and subtitles.

[sarshelyam]

You could say whatever you want but it doesn't change the fact I own the game and I KNOW my statement to be fact. Quoting wikipedia is like quoting some homeless guy who has homeowners tips for the masses! You want to argue that? Perhaps this is a factory default that can be changed in the options but as far as I'm concerned the only Chinese is in the manual, everything is else is English Text, English Voice.

The Asian (Hong Kong) release is in FULL ENGLISH...like Siren (I couldn't even find the Chinese options in the menu).

I'm not arguing with you Zeta, I know it may come off like that, but Wiki is the most unreliable source for information presented in a way that SEEMS reliable.

[Kalissian]

You could say whatever you want but it doesn't change the fact I own the game and I KNOW my statement to be fact. Quoting wikipedia is like quoting some homeless guy who has homeowners tips for the masses! You want to argue that? Perhaps this is a factory default that can be changed in the options but as far as I'm concerned the only Chinese is in the manual, everything is else is English Text, English Voice.

The Asian (Hong Kong) release is in FULL ENGLISH...like Siren (I couldn't even find the Chinese options in the menu).

I'm not arguing with you Zeta, I know it may come off like that, but Wiki is the most unreliable source for information presented in a way that SEEMS reliable.

Zeta was agreeing with you, dude.

[Mounce]

You could say whatever you want but it doesn't change the fact I own the game and I KNOW my statement to be fact. Quoting wikipedia is like quoting some homeless guy who has homeowners tips for the masses! You want to argue that? Perhaps this is a factory default that can be changed in the options but as far as I'm concerned the only Chinese is in the manual, everything is else is English Text, English Voice.

The Asian (Hong Kong) release is in FULL ENGLISH...like Siren (I couldn't even find the Chinese options in the menu).

I'm not arguing with you Zeta, I know it may come off like that, but Wiki is the most unreliable source for information presented in a way that SEEMS reliable.

Zeta was agreeing with you, dude.

He was agreeing with, as a starting post, he agrees with him by Zeta telling him what he said was 'Invalid'?..

Dude, you don't make sense.

[sarshelyam]

He was agreeing with me, disagreeing with >:-(. Kalissian seemed to miss the part where I stated I wasn't arguing with Zeta, just pointing out the flaws in wiki's stupid structure.

[>:-(]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

[Mounce]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Well, it seems from what I heard, the NA version will indeed run on it's own servers, so, anything you do on your imported version, will not play with any friends or characters on the NA game..... :\ Different servers D: it's not connected! T_T

So, playing it more, would be a waste? Unless little by little?.... Idunno :\

[mccrackey]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Well, it seems from what I heard, the NA version will indeed run on it's own servers, so, anything you do on your imported version, will not play with any friends or characters on the NA game..... :\ Different servers D: it's not connected! T_T

So, playing it more, would be a waste? Unless little by little?.... Idunno :\

Unless you're a trophy-fiend. Then you can have two platinums for the same awesome game!

[Mounce]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Well, it seems from what I heard, the NA version will indeed run on it's own servers, so, anything you do on your imported version, will not play with any friends or characters on the NA game..... :\ Different servers D: it's not connected! T_T

So, playing it more, would be a waste? Unless little by little?.... Idunno :\

Unless you're a trophy-fiend. Then you can have two platinums for the same awesome game!

Haha, Sony's trophy-system and Atlus's 'Game-servers' are separate/on their own. XD, am sure they'd cancel it out or prevent that from happening, that the trophies will be equally gained and count both versions of the game as 'One'.

[sarshelyam]

You would think that, but that's not the case. I stopped playing before making more than 37% in anticipation of making Platinum on the NA release. Regional variations are separate from one another.

[IceBrazuca]

Would be good if they changed armors to increase defense based on percentage and not points so they could still be usefull after NG++.

I also wish they would make the strong attack for fist weapons like the claws have a MUCH faster wind up. Like half a second cause it already doesn't do much damage, and has horrible range.

[sarshelyam]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Why not consider your play-time with the import as sort of a training ground. Come the time when you pick up ATLUS' release you'll be ready to go and know exactly what you need to do for all of the portions of the game you've completed.

I've wrapped up the game about three times and I'm ready to do it again. Shelved my import and am currently waiting for the release...the perfect Birthday present considering it releases 4 days prior to my big day!

[AgentOtaku]

First post!

Thread appreciated as I too bought the Asian version from way back in Feb.
I haven't actually gotten around to digging into it though due to being pretty busy.
So was wondering if I should dive head first into the Asia sku and then maybe rebuy the Atlus one in Oct. so as to check out the localization/CE

[>:-(]

First post!

Thread appreciated as I too bought the Asian version from way back in Feb.
I haven't actually gotten around to digging into it though due to being pretty busy.
So was wondering if I should dive head first into the Asia sku and then maybe rebuy the Atlus one in Oct. so as to check out the localization/CE

I beated the game (Asian version) 2 weeks ago, honestly the game is all in english so I don't see what Atlus could add more to that. Play it right now, but be sure to play it online so you can do the missions with other people. Solo offline mode is pretty hard actually, I haven't done much solo aside from the first two missions (slime and giant spectral armor bosses) but from what I can say it is pretty frustrating.

I was about to drop the game until I decided the try the online function and damn I am glad I did.

By the way, I am still keeping my Pre-Order for the Deluxe Edition, the game deserves it it is one of the best game I have played in the last year.

[Alkara]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Well, it seems from what I heard, the NA version will indeed run on it's own servers, so, anything you do on your imported version, will not play with any friends or characters on the NA game..... :\ Different servers D: it's not connected! T_T

So, playing it more, would be a waste? Unless little by little?.... Idunno :\

Unless you're a trophy-fiend. Then you can have two platinums for the same awesome game!

Haha, Sony's trophy-system and Atlus's 'Game-servers' are separate/on their own. XD, am sure they'd cancel it out or prevent that from happening, that the trophies will be equally gained and count both versions of the game as 'One'.


The problem is though is separate US servers imo. I mean I dont see alot of people in the United States playing this, maybe about 20k or so, RPGs are that popular here unfortunately. But if all the servers were connected with the Asian version of the game there would be alot of people online at all times to play with, fight against, ect. I dont know, maybe I'm wrong about how many would play the game in the states but who knows, we'll find out though.

[Mounce]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Well, it seems from what I heard, the NA version will indeed run on it's own servers, so, anything you do on your imported version, will not play with any friends or characters on the NA game..... :\ Different servers D: it's not connected! T_T

So, playing it more, would be a waste? Unless little by little?.... Idunno :\

Unless you're a trophy-fiend. Then you can have two platinums for the same awesome game!

Haha, Sony's trophy-system and Atlus's 'Game-servers' are separate/on their own. XD, am sure they'd cancel it out or prevent that from happening, that the trophies will be equally gained and count both versions of the game as 'One'.


The problem is though is separate US servers imo. I mean I dont see alot of people in the United States playing this, maybe about 20k or so, RPGs are that popular here unfortunately. But if all the servers were connected with the Asian version of the game there would be alot of people online at all times to play with, fight against, ect. I dont know, maybe I'm wrong about how many would play the game in the states but who knows, we'll find out though.

That was a concern with me too, about why the servers should be joined, however, they discussed their concerns as to why they made the U.S. servers separate in the Playstation Blog, stating that it's like FFXI, and that when they just started PLAYING, there were already like, massive level 50-70s, at the level cap, going around town as a powerful GOD OF WORLDS! People who've been playing countless hours before then, belittling them as they were 'constantly killed by bees'. Lol

So, its also understandable as to why the servers aren't joined.

As well as, just means less stress on the servers, less lag for US! :D

[jonmarek]

They should do something for people who imported it before they knew it was coming to NA. Like a trade in deal where you get a discount on the NA Version. That way they make money that they otherwise wouldn't, because I'm sure a lot of importers aren't going to spend another 60 bucks on what is essentially the same game. Its just a thought. Also Because it isnt region locked how hard would it be to patch the game to allow people from the NA with an import copy to play on the US servers? Even if they charged money for the patch they would still be making money right? Anyway just some thoughts.

[beastxjason]

They should do something for people who imported it before they knew it was coming to NA. Like a trade in deal where you get a discount on the NA Version. That way they make money that they otherwise wouldn't, because I'm sure a lot of importers aren't going to spend another 60 bucks on what is essentially the same game. Its just a thought. Also Because it isnt region locked how hard would it be to patch the game to allow people from the NA with an import copy to play on the US servers? Even if they charged money for the patch they would still be making money right? Anyway just some thoughts.
I agree but your all missing the point. You cant play with friends, theres no mic support (thank god it would ruin the expierience).So why get the NA release? The AS version is all in English I recieved my copy last week. I was shocked as there was no japanese anywhere, even came with an english manual poster. I hope they dont add anything as far as I can tell they have the most perfectly balanced game I have ever played. Even Diablo 2 after tons of patchs doesnt come close to the balance that this game has. I was debating on getting the NA release but I just dont see the point. The game saves arent even compatible.

[Cold_Drake]

I agree but your all missing the point. You cant play with friends, theres no mic support (thank god it would ruin the expierience).So why get the NA release? The AS version is all in English I recieved my copy last week. I was shocked as there was no japanese anywhere, even came with an english manual poster. I hope they dont add anything as far as I can tell they have the most perfectly balanced game I have ever played. Even Diablo 2 after tons of patchs doesnt come close to the balance that this game has. I was debating on getting the NA release but I just dont see the point. The game saves arent even compatible.

there are ways to meet your friends in the game.

however, both of you need to be at roughly +/- 10 levels. after that, go to a less popular spot and summon them.

if you drop your soul signs at hot spot, you will likely be summoned by anyone.

[Mounce]

I agree but your all missing the point. You cant play with friends, theres no mic support (thank god it would ruin the expierience).So why get the NA release? The AS version is all in English I recieved my copy last week. I was shocked as there was no japanese anywhere, even came with an english manual poster. I hope they dont add anything as far as I can tell they have the most perfectly balanced game I have ever played. Even Diablo 2 after tons of patchs doesnt come close to the balance that this game has. I was debating on getting the NA release but I just dont see the point. The game saves arent even compatible.

there are ways to meet your friends in the game.

however, both of you need to be at roughly +/- 10 levels. after that, go to a less popular spot and summon them.

if you drop your soul signs at hot spot, you will likely be summoned by anyone.

HOT! I was wondering if this would work or not! Curiously questioning myself if I could just go to some spot, tell my friend where I am, thennn, meet up! Cool! :D!!!!!!!!!!

[beastxjason]

Level difference is a good point, why limit the servers? You cant play with somebody or pvp unless within 10 lvls. Greed is why they wont let everybody play together. $$$$ Not this same lvl BS.

[sarshelyam]

Wow beast...you must feel pretty strong about your stance. I really don't see what the issue is considering there will be plenty of people to play with, hunt, or to hunt you. Simply seems like you're complaining simply for the sake of it...

[Soushi_Grapple]

Atlus is better, that's why you get the NA version. =)

[Valaska]

Will the Demon's Souls from Atlus have any added features compared to the Asian version released months ago? Kind of like what they did with Crimson Gem Saga and Growlanser: Heritage of War?

Or will it just be a simple localization?

Hopefully co-op with friends, it would push me and a load of my other friends into actually purchasing it.. lol I was actually planning on getting the collectors edition etc until I heard about it not having actual co-op with friends..
So me and the clique of 7 other people are resorting to Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on PSP instead of Demon Souls... I was actually really digging a lot of the things in Demon Souls its too bad..

[Mounce]

Level difference is a good point, why limit the servers? You cant play with somebody or pvp unless within 10 lvls. Greed is why they wont let everybody play together. $$$$ Not this same lvl BS.

I facepalm, and show massive pity to your logic, and your ability to think or lack-of.

[beastxjason]

Still doesnt make sense. Ending up with 2 copys of the game wasnt what I planned on. Still got NA paid off, feel raped.

[Onion of Mystery]

We're not in the raping business. (You can quote me on that.) If you don't want to buy the game, you don't have to. I'm sure whatever store you have the game preordered with will let you shift your preorder funds to some other upcoming game or store credit.

[beastxjason]

Its the whole server issue I just dont understand why we couldnt play with NA when theres a level restriction. The extra goodies more then make up for it. I absolutely love the game.

[Onion of Mystery]

I'm curious as to what you think Atlus gains from having seperate servers from the rest of the world. It's not like you're being charged to play online or anything. We're not allowed to go discuss reasons behind the business decisions that are made, but your suspicion that we're all sitting at our desks cackling like Montgomery Burns is amusing.

Incorrect, but still amusing.

[SickleCellAnemia]

We're not in the raping business.

Oh darn!

[chi]

So that means would it be alright if I play my Asian version of Demon's Souls now whitout waiting to receive my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition in October? I mean, from what you guys said it will definitly be the same exact game minus different packaging and an "ATLUS" seal.

Why not consider your play-time with the import as sort of a training ground. Come the time when you pick up ATLUS' release you'll be ready to go and know exactly what you need to do for all of the portions of the game you've completed.

I've wrapped up the game about three times and I'm ready to do it again. Shelved my import and am currently waiting for the release...the perfect Birthday present considering it releases 4 days prior to my big day!

demon's souls release in the same day of my birthday

[Mooglepies]

I'm curious as to what you think Atlus gains from having seperate servers from the rest of the world. It's not like you're being charged to play online or anything. We're not allowed to go discuss reasons behind the business decisions that are made, but your suspicion that we're all sitting at our desks cackling like Montgomery Burns is amusing.

Incorrect, but still amusing.

If I had to guess, any bad feeling is due to perceived duplicity on Atlus' part; you've said that the reason for the server split is to stop high level players from horribly raping low level ones and to prevent cases of blatant racism a la FFXI. Since the former is impossible due to game mechanics and anyone that's played the game will tell you that the latter doesn't happen, that leads people to question why exactly you DID seperate the servers.

I for one couldn't care less, but some people stress these things.

[JoeFenix]

I'm curious to see if Demon's souls is going to have the new PS3 boxart font.

Sony says it starts for them with Uncharted 2 but I'm wondering if some third parties will do it first. It looks nicer, I hope they do it!

[sarshelyam]

These topics are growing increasingly tiresome. Even if ATLUS did support cross region server play, what would be the point considering you couldn't (likely) play with anyone until they reach your level?

It just sounds like everyone is simply complaining about having to start all over with such an incredible game. I've played through it 3 times, picking up the North American release, and my only concern is how I'm going to get the day off so I can veg in front of my TV all day...again...

[Mooglepies]

These topics are growing increasingly tiresome. Even if ATLUS did support cross region server play, what would be the point considering you couldn't (likely) play with anyone until they reach your level?

It just sounds like everyone is simply complaining about having to start all over with such an incredible game. I've played through it 3 times, picking up the North American release, and my only concern is how I'm going to get the day off so I can veg in front of my TV all day...again...

I'm not too concerned, but give most people a chance tovent their spleen and they will.

Responding to your post there, however, cross-region play would have been good to ensure the maximum possible playerbase online at any one time. As someone that spent about 2 hours last night trying to find a world to break into and failing, more players is a good thing.

[sarshelyam]

I simply do not agree. At this point in the game, most gamers who have already picked up the title will have been done with the game for some time (by the release of the NA version). I'm not speaking to the late-comers who have recently imported it, but more simply the early day-1 adopters who've gone through the game more than a few times. Opening up the servers wouldn't change that much...

[beastxjason]

I'm curious as to what you think Atlus gains from having seperate servers from the rest of the world. It's not like you're being charged to play online or anything. We're not allowed to go discuss reasons behind the business decisions that are made, but your suspicion that we're all sitting at our desks cackling like Montgomery Burns is amusing.

Incorrect, but still amusing.

If I had to guess, any bad feeling is due to perceived duplicity on Atlus' part; you've said that the reason for the server split is to stop high level players from horribly raping low level ones and to prevent cases of blatant racism a la FFXI. Since the former is impossible due to game mechanics and anyone that's played the game will tell you that the latter doesn't happen, that leads people to question why exactly you DID seperate the servers.

I for one couldn't care less, but some people stress these things.

Mooglepies Thanks that is what I was trying to express. :agree:

[JasonS.]

I've been looking on the internet for differences between the asian and the NA versions, but I can't find any relevant information. So, are there any differences? If so, please list them. Thanks a lot!

[Pibbman]

I'm curious to see if Demon's souls is going to have the new PS3 boxart font.

Sony says it starts for them with Uncharted 2 but I'm wondering if some third parties will do it first. It looks nicer, I hope they do it!

Personally I hope they don't. I dont really care about the new font and whatnot, but what ticks me off is how they changed the case size. Damnit I like my boxes on my shelf to be uniform, and now it's not going to be anymore.

[Quig]

Everybodyspelling error here is just speculating. Until an Atlus moderator says anything about what Atlus might have added, this thread is pure speculation and opinion. When there is information from a credible source, then I'll pass judgement.

[VMan]

I'm curious to see if Demon's souls is going to have the new PS3 boxart font.

Sony says it starts for them with Uncharted 2 but I'm wondering if some third parties will do it first. It looks nicer, I hope they do it!

Personally I hope they don't. I dont really care about the new font and whatnot, but what ticks me off is how they changed the case size. Damnit I like my boxes on my shelf to be uniform, and now it's not going to be anymore.

Be like me and build your collection large enough to warrant keeping your games in storage totes! That way it won't really matter! :tongue:

[Quig]

I heard that they fixed a glitch, and cleaned up a few animates. Of course, that is not including the localization. Don't know whether or not this information was correct...

[Karkarov]

It may just be me but since we already have a "Large Sword of Moonlight" (I wonder what this sword is from?) why not make some new weapons to go with it? How about a Slayer of the Dark, perhaps a "Twin" Fang, and maybe even a White Dragon's Sword? You win Kark points if you know what sword the last one refers to. I always loved that each major weapon in that series had a backstory though if you did your homework.

[pram12]

Looks like they'll correct some Engrish.

[harlequ1n]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.

[Pathard]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.
I've noticed this too. I'm partly Spanish (Rota, family lives in Sevilla) but live in the US at the moment. So, anyways, it's pretty cool seeing this happen. It has happened before, but like you said, rarely. I can't wait for my NA copy. It's so close..

[Kore]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.
I've noticed this too. I'm partly Spanish (Rota, family lives in Sevilla) but live in the US at the moment. So, anyways, it's pretty cool seeing this happen. It has happened before, but like you said, rarely. I can't wait for my NA copy. It's so close..

Another spanish person here. From Barcelona, but living and attending college in the US. I think I will get this title on release day as well.

[harlequ1n]

Another spanish person here. From Barcelona, but living and attending college in the US. I think I will get this title on release day as well.
Hey mate! How's everything going on there? Missing Barcelona already? Nice to see Spanish people attending college in English. I'm attending university abroad here in Barcelona as I'm not Spanish.

[Mytho]

Since I cannot make a new topic, I figured this is the best place to ask this question.

Will the Atlus version require FW 3.0 to play (even offline)? I know that I will need to upgrade to play online, but I really have no desire to play online in the foreseeable future.

I would like to support the North American release of Demon's Souls, especially since it will have an improved translation in addition to bug fixes, but may not be able to if it will require FW 3.0.

[John_Fat]

Since I cannot make a new topic, I figured this is the best place to ask this question.

Will the Atlus version require FW 3.0 to play (even offline)? I know that I will need to upgrade to play online, but I really have no desire to play online in the foreseeable future.

I would like to support the North American release of Demon's Souls, especially since it will have an improved translation in addition to bug fixes, but may not be able to if it will require FW 3.0.


You can still play games online without downloading the new FW patch. I am still using patch 2.80 online, using the "proxy server" option built into the PS3 network settings. I won't download any new FW until they resolve the freezing issues that people are still reporting with several games.

The instructions I followed are here:
http://www.ps3news.com/forums/ps3-guides-tutorials/playstation-network-firmware-bypass-using-only-playstation-3-proxy-98033.html

[Mytho]

Thank you John_Fat. I did not know you could bypass the check by using a PS3 proxy server. This is great news, since I would like to download demos and play newer games without having to upgrade. :)

I will have to give it a shot when I am back home.

[Jorlen]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.

Bug fixing? Is there an official Atlus post stating they have a newer version (1.04) than the Asian servers? I've looked and looked but haven't found any proof. It would be awesome though. I especially hate the "go online and have your world tendency settings borked" bug.

[Karkarov]

Bug fixing? Is there an official Atlus post stating they have a newer version (1.04) than the Asian servers? I've looked and looked but haven't found any proof. It would be awesome though. I especially hate the "go online and have your world tendency settings borked" bug.

What he means is that Atlus is known for always going back over the games they are bringing over to the US and doing additional work beyond translating. Atlus will add the "spoils", they regularly have playtesters look for bugs then get them fixed by working with the original game maker, they tend to redo and improve translations even in games like Demon's Souls that already had English as well. At the very least we will be playing the same version as the asian players, whatever the current number is ;p.

[harlequ1n]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.

Bug fixing? Is there an official Atlus post stating they have a newer version (1.04) than the Asian servers? I've looked and looked but haven't found any proof. It would be awesome though. I especially hate the "go online and have your world tendency settings borked" bug.

Well, I don't recall exactly where I read or listened about bug fixing but a quick google search returned this (http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-333790.aspx) (actual ps3center page doesn't load apparently...)

[Jorlen]

I was very close to importing the Asian version until I found out about the amazing Atlus spoils and the bug fixing + improved translation. In fact, most people on the Spanish forums I dwell on are selling their Asian copies to fund the NA one. This rarely happens among Spanish players.

Bug fixing? Is there an official Atlus post stating they have a newer version (1.04) than the Asian servers? I've looked and looked but haven't found any proof. It would be awesome though. I especially hate the "go online and have your world tendency settings borked" bug.

Well, I don't recall exactly where I read or listened about bug fixing but a quick google search returned this (http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-333790.aspx) (actual ps3center page doesn't load aparently...)

Very interesting. I would love it (and most other import players too) if Atlus would make a list of the bug fixes or changes (apart from the translation) they've done for the NA release! Anyone at Atlus - is this feasible?

[Hobbun]

Are you able to defeat the game solo (without pulling your hair out)?

The reason I ask is I don't know if I will be playing it right off the bat when I purchase the game. And I worry by the time I start it up, people will have played it and moved on to other games. That's the only drawback I could see with this game. It's not something that you can pick up 3-4 years from now and just play it if it is multiplayer dependent.

[Karkarov]

Are you able to defeat the game solo (without pulling your hair out)?

The reason I ask is I don't know if I will be playing it right off the bat when I purchase the game. And I worry by the time I start it up, people will have played it and moved on to other games. That's the only drawback I could see with this game. It's not something that you can pick up 3-4 years from now and just play it if it is multiplayer dependent.

Well Demon's Souls is a single player game with integrated multiplayer. To be more clear, it is a single player game that has some multiplayer components. So yes, you can definitely play it single player and succeed. I don't think you will have an issue with a dearth of players though unless you really do wait 3-4 years to play.

[Hobbun]

Well, I probably won't be waiting 3-4 years to play the game, but it could possibly be a year. I know a lot of you are saying "Why wait so long?" But my backlog is huge and my time to play games is very infrequent. So it could be awhile.

But what I meant by the 3-4 year comment is if you do want to replay it later on down the road, and if multiplayer is important for the game, it makes it difficult to play.

Although you say you can solo the game. I've just heard it is very hard to do so with certain bosses. Either way, I am purchasing the game and look forward to playing it. Maybe I will bump it up on my backlog and try it out.

Thanks.

[Syra]

But what I meant by the 3-4 year comment is if you do want to replay it later on down the road, and if multiplayer is important for the game, it makes it difficult to play.

That depends entirely on the game. Remember Phantasy Star Online? Lots of people still play it(I still play it). It's been almost ten years. Not only that, there are no official servers for the game any longer, yet people still play on private servers. Sure, a lot of games fall flat quickly as far as online community goes, yet others will last years and years. It's hard to say how long any one game will last, but I expect Demon's Souls wont be dead for some time to come. Especially when you consider people who have played this game for a year already, are looking to repurchase and begin once more.

Hell, if you want to play this 3-4 years down the road, I'm sure I'll be there. I never leave a game I enjoy forever. Which is why I hate that Backwards compatibility has become an afterthought of recent times.

[John_Fat]

Since I cannot make a new topic, I figured this is the best place to ask this question.

Will the Atlus version require FW 3.0 to play (even offline)? I know that I will need to upgrade to play online, but I really have no desire to play online in the foreseeable future.

I would like to support the North American release of Demon's Souls, especially since it will have an improved translation in addition to bug fixes, but may not be able to if it will require FW 3.0.


To echo his original question, does anyone who is now playing the game know if it requires FW 3.0 / 3.01 to play?
I am still using 2.80 online, using the proxy server, and I haven't received my copy yet, but I saw someone on my friends list playing Demon's Souls but when I tried to look at his trophies, Demon's Souls not in his trophy list, not even at 0%.... Made me think that the latest firmware is required to play or even see other users' trophies.... :(

Can anyone verify this? It might be somewhere in the fine print or Terms of Service, even if you had the latest firmware before installing it... I know that some games come preloaded with the latest firmware, but I was hoping this game wasn't one of them.

[Mytho]

To echo his original question, does anyone who is now playing the game know if it requires FW 3.0 / 3.01 to play?

Can anyone verify this? It might be somewhere in the fine print or Terms of Service, even if you had the latest firmware before installing it... I know that some games come preloaded with the latest firmware, but I was hoping this game wasn't one of them.

I just popped the game in and I am pleased to report that Demon's Souls does NOT require FW 3.0. :)

[John_Fat]

To echo his original question, does anyone who is now playing the game know if it requires FW 3.0 / 3.01 to play?

Can anyone verify this? It might be somewhere in the fine print or Terms of Service, even if you had the latest firmware before installing it... I know that some games come preloaded with the latest firmware, but I was hoping this game wasn't one of them.

I just popped the game in and I am pleased to report that Demon's Souls does NOT require FW 3.0. :)


Awesome, thanks! I didn't receive my copy yet, still waiting on it from Amazon. Did you ever get your 2.80 working online using the proxy server method?