Is Nocturne the only STM flagship title that has been localized?

[AdrianMorales]

Hey,

I know that there are a million Shin Megami Tensei games out there, but there can only be one main series (just like with Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest series and their spin-offs). What I want to know is this: is Nocturne is the only main title in the series to have been localized so far? To my knowledge, all the rest are spin-offs.

[Yukichin]

That is correct.

[AbsyntheDelacroix]

Officially translated, yes. Fantranslated, no.

[AdrianMorales]

Maybe Atlus JP would do well to develop some more titles that are part of the main series instead of concentrating all of their efforts on these spin-offs. I mean I like 'em and all, but we need Shin Megami Tensei IV. And speaking of SMT IV, whatever happened to the next-gen SMT that was announced way back in 2005 for the PS3?

[Pibbman]

Maybe Atlus JP would do well to develop some more titles that are part of the main series instead of concentrating all of their efforts on these spin-offs. I mean I like 'em and all, but we need Shin Megami Tensei IV. And speaking of SMT IV, whatever happened to the next-gen SMT that was announced way back in 2005 for the PS3?

Far as we know, it's still under development. There were no announcement of cancellation either. I'm hoping we'll be seeing something about it at TGS '09, I doubt we'll hear anything at E3, although I'd be surprised if we did. It's been a bit quiet lately on the SMT front.

Last I read about the game is that Atlus Japan's PS3 team is hard at work on it, my guess is the reason that it's taking so long is probably because they are building their own engine from scratch.

Some people assume it's cancelled because we haven't heard anything in so long, however it should be noted that a quite a few games that were announced back at E3 2005 haven't been released until just recent (2008/2009). One example being Resident Evil 5, it was announced in 2005 but hasn't been released until earlier this year, and that had a huge development team behind it.

[Foobar]

Yeah, SMT IV has just been in the works for a long time. I'm pretty sure now that the PS2 side of the series has ended, we'll more than likely hear something within the next few months about SMT IV.

Nocturne proved to be the cornerstone for all SMT games that followed it on PS2, so I have a feeling SMT IV will prove to be the same for PS3.

[Towel]

The Shin Megami Tensei PS3 title from 2005 never existed. The "announcement" was the result of a mistranslated article from Famitsu.

[yesfan951]

LOL, SMT IV is practically beyond my imaginations capacity! I can't wait to see it! A new Xeno-series would be cool too!

[nbinney]

Believe it or not, the First SMT game to be brought to America was actually Jack Bros. for Virtual Boy.

[Zacewing]

Nocturne is the only main series title to be localized, though.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that Atlus will bring SMT to PS3. They could always bring it to the Xbox 360 or Wii.

Last I heard, Atlus is developing a "high profile" Xbox 360 title. It could possibly be SMT4.

[Crabman]

I don't care which console the next SMT goes on. I already have a 360 and Wii and an SMT of PS3 would just be yet another reason (although likely the reason) for me to get a PS3.

[Dead Flag Blues]

Nocturne is the only main series title to be localized, though.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that Atlus will bring SMT to PS3. They could always bring it to the Xbox 360 or Wii.

Last I heard, Atlus is developing a "high profile" Xbox 360 title. It could possibly be SMT4.

Not trying to be rude, but every post you have regarding the future of SMT you sound like such an M$ fanboy haha. Jus' sayin.

[Digital Entourage]

Developing a SMT game for the XB360 would be commercial suicide.

Just saying. True SMT/persona fans are the same people who are ps3 owners. at least in Japan. The XB360 is basically as dead as it can be in japan, it even fails to present many games worth purchasing in 2009/2010. It's passed its point, MS's paid exclusives have run out and they are shifting towards Natal.

The next SMT game will be either wii, ps2 or PS3. I would expect PS3 to move into HD gaming... but possibly the wii.

SMT games are not highly popular, they sell to niche audiences who are of the hardcore base. the choice of console (other than xb360) will have no effect on sales. But surely the japanese market is the primary concern, which for games of the SMT Type would go to the PS3.

[Zacewing]

Nocturne is the only main series title to be localized, though.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that Atlus will bring SMT to PS3. They could always bring it to the Xbox 360 or Wii.

Last I heard, Atlus is developing a "high profile" Xbox 360 title. It could possibly be SMT4.

Not trying to be rude, but every post you have regarding the future of SMT you sound like such an M$ fanboy haha. Jus' sayin.

I'm not saying it's a for sure thing that it'll be on the 360, I'm just saying it's a possibility.

Developing a SMT game for the XB360 would be commercial suicide.

Just saying. True SMT/persona fans are the same people who are ps3 owners. at least in Japan. The XB360 is basically as dead as it can be in japan, it even fails to present many games worth purchasing in 2009/2010. It's passed its point, MS's paid exclusives have run out and they are shifting towards Natal.

Again, more assumptions.

You do know that Xbox 360's have been selling out all over Japan whenever a high profile RPG (See: Tales Of Vesperia, Star Ocean: The Last Hope) is released, right?

I'm not trying to sound like an MS fanboy, cause I'm really not, but I'm just saying you shouldn't dismiss a possible Xbox 360 release so quickly.

[Digital Entourage]

Nocturne is the only main series title to be localized, though.

Also, I wouldn't be so sure that Atlus will bring SMT to PS3. They could always bring it to the Xbox 360 or Wii.

Last I heard, Atlus is developing a "high profile" Xbox 360 title. It could possibly be SMT4.

Not trying to be rude, but every post you have regarding the future of SMT you sound like such an M$ fanboy haha. Jus' sayin.

I'm not saying it's a for sure thing that it'll be on the 360, I'm just saying it's a possibility.

Developing a SMT game for the XB360 would be commercial suicide.

Just saying. True SMT/persona fans are the same people who are ps3 owners. at least in Japan. The XB360 is basically as dead as it can be in japan, it even fails to present many games worth purchasing in 2009/2010. It's passed its point, MS's paid exclusives have run out and they are shifting towards Natal.

Again, more assumptions.

You do know that Xbox 360's have been selling out all over Japan whenever a high profile RPG (See: Tales Of Vesperia, Star Ocean: The Last Hope) is released, right?

I'm not trying to sound like an MS fanboy, cause I'm really not, but I'm just saying you shouldn't dismiss a possible Xbox 360 release so quickly.



It did, but after developers Namco and Square Enix basically turned their backs on the 360 due to horrible sales, they've gone back to the PS3. There was a presentation by Namco showing that all future tales games in HD will be PS3 only, and the tales of Vesperia ps3 is the definite version. Star Ocean: The last hope was a pretty horrible game. I'm not dismissing it, you started this by not mentioning the PS3 when you talked about the next SMT game. The 360 is dead, let's just face it. With Final Fantasy XIII and Versus being ps3 exclusive (versus worldwide, 13 japan only) you're not going to see any developers pushing the 360 for a long time.

See:
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=18652&region=All
Tales of Vesperia, a very well known game series, highly liked in japan.. total sales only .31m

White Knight Chronicles:
new IP, from an acclaimed developer, but certainly not a well known game..
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7690&region=All
JAPAN only sales.
with us will be close to 600k probably.

Valkyria Chronicles, another new IP, not great marketing, .21m
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=18897&region=All

Star Ocean 4: The last hope, huge marketing, huge title, huge following in japan
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23447&region=All

same sales..


If SO4 was ps3, would of been 500,000 jp.
Vesperia PS3 will sell more than xb a year later.
ff13 will sell close to 2million on PS3 in japan.
Versus will do close to 2million as well.

[slayn]

www.vgchartz.com

That right there invalidates your argument. I could play a game of darts and multiply my score by 1000 and probably end up with more accurate numbers than that site.

[Digital Entourage]

VGchartz uses NDP numbers. they are accurate.

[dungeon_man]

Maybe Atlus JP would do well to develop some more titles that are part of the main series instead of concentrating all of their efforts on these spin-offs. I mean I like 'em and all, but we need Shin Megami Tensei IV.

Do we "need" it? The PS1 generation did not have any new main-series SMT games, but they still had some great spinoffs. I don't want SMT to become another series where they continuously repeat the same game with new maps and story. I'd prefer that they do a new SMT when they have enough ideas to do a new SMT.

Besides, we've got Devil Survivor coming out in a week! What more could you need?

[Olethros]

VGchartz uses NDP numbers. they are accurate.

Sure. And Santa Claus is real. Seriously, that statement right there has destroyed whatever little bit of credibility you still had left. Now you're just another fanboy.

[Decept]

VGchartz uses NDP numbers. they are accurate.

And Santa Claus is real.

I knew it!

I agree with dungeon_man, no need to rush things.

[Digital Entourage]

VGchartz uses NDP numbers. they are accurate.

Sure. And Santa Claus is real. Seriously, that statement right there has destroyed whatever little bit of credibility you still had left. Now you're just another fanboy.

I'm certainly not a fanboy, and I'm totally willing to use another source if you have one. Don't jump to conclusions. Presenting no source is more fanboyism than doing so. The source I am using my be incorrect, but that doesn't make me at fault. If there is a source with more accurate representation of sales, please link me to it. Otherwise we're all just all speculating and saying what we wish to be true. Remember, I'm trying to present a logical reasoning for my thoughts, if you wish to contribute to the discussion shouldn't you provide something for me to say otherwise with? I'm not a fanboy, I welcome my mistakes if you can show me that I am wrong.

[Olethros]

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71867&postcount=24

[Digital Entourage]

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71867&postcount=24

fair enough, but should I go dig up random posts made by admins of the forums before i use a source? This is not a readily available link. I just knew that major publications use VGChartz to display sales. So what is a good source for sales then? I will discontinue using them, and go with NDP only.

[slayn]

So what is a good source for sales then? I will discontinue using them, and go with NDP only.

NPD is pretty much your best bet.

[dungeon_man]

VGchartz uses NDP numbers. they are accurate.

Sure. And Santa Claus is real. Seriously, that statement right there has destroyed whatever little bit of credibility you still had left. Now you're just another fanboy.

Well, he's partially right. VGChartzs uses made up numbers, but then they update their made-up numbers at the end of the month to make them match the top 10 or so games that NPD stats are freely available for.

But yeah, unless a game is a big seller, VGChartz a very rough estimate at best.