sigh i'm not a happy camper at the moment(spoilers)

[mordaki987]

:mad: alright i'm not a very friggen camper at the moment. friggen am level 30 and no matter what i do i can't avoid a friggen confrontation or run in with the stupid friggen pale rider as i'm trying to get through the last bits of the tentra tunnels. i'm about ready to say to hell with this game i mean how the hell does atlus expect us to get any friggen where if we can't even escape from a fight that isn't even a boss? I mean if pale rider is supposed to be the equivialent to death from the persona 3 and 4 games then we at least had the option to escape from him. and this whole negotiate crap i do enough of in shin megami tensei online imagine to know that it's annoying as all hell. at any yet consider this a rant an ask for spoilers whatever you take it as thats probably what it is but there has to be some bloody way to keep myself from encountering this pain in the royal patoot!

[Pibbman]

No way of avoiding them, they'll even follow you to a different area if you do so. Just gotta keep your luck stat high, and hope that when they do the luck roulette, that you get a good one.

Weakness, support skills, healing. I believe Pale rider is weak to Zio, and Red Rider is weak to Ice (I could have the two mixed though). The bosses are only gonna start getting harder from this point on too.

UPDATE: I noticed that Pale Rider doesn't apparently have any weakness? I mixed up pale rider with white rider for the Zio weakness. Pale is definitely worst than White and Red, since it can summon another rider. I haven't had the chance to try mind attacks yet though.

[Enzeru]

I know that White Rider is weak against Bufu/Ice, because that's what I used to get it off my back...