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Esoteric

01-08-2008, 12:52 PM

The Matador more or less comes out of nowhere, and I wasn't ready AT all, so he was my hardest fight. Before him, all the enemies were easy, and the game doens't really warn you.

Futomimi

01-08-2008, 03:10 PM

I did like 10 mhours of grinding before the Oni brothers so when I finally got to them it was a ####ing pushover, lol.

For me it was Hell Biker, and then Lucifer, and then Matador (probably just because he was the first fiend and I wasn't expecting him to be so tough... if I replayed he would probably seem a lot easier).

Dim Locator

01-08-2008, 03:36 PM

Matador by the time I fought anyone else of note I had at least one fiend on my side... I don't think Lucifer killed me once...

Kakizaki

01-08-2008, 03:40 PM

Sayckeone

01-08-2008, 05:09 PM

The Matador more or less comes out of nowhere, and I wasn't ready AT all, so he was my hardest fight. Before him, all the enemies were easy, and the game doens't really warn you.
I don 't remember if the Matador was my hardest battle, but he's definitely the one I remember the most.

Dude came from Tokyo and just whooped my ass. The game is basically smooth sailing and relatively simple until that point. That's when you realize you really need to get a firm grasp on the Turn Press System and, from there on, exploit it to the max, otherwise, you're going absolutely nowhere.

DARK HEAT

01-11-2008, 09:13 AM

Finalzidane-X

01-11-2008, 02:08 PM

I curse the Yellow Internet-Noob spirit guarding the last anomaly room in the first Amala Network... All of my demons are like weak to it, and I rushed into it... I´m gonna restart the game... *Booh*

Dim Locator

01-26-2008, 08:01 AM

I think the other one that I had a hard time with was Nyx Avatar in the Graveyard Challenge.

Dave3

01-26-2008, 10:00 AM

I don 't remember if the Matador was my hardest battle, but he's definitely the one I remember the most.

Dude came from Tokyo and just whooped my ass. The game is basically smooth sailing and relatively simple until that point. That's when you realize you really need to get a firm grasp on the Turn Press System and, from there on, exploit it to the max, otherwise, you're going absolutely nowhere.

Same here, he completely kicked my ass at first, pretty much because I didn't really know what I was doing at that point. Once I figured out the Press-Turn System a little better the Matador wasn't really that hard at all.

bullman422

03-19-2008, 10:10 AM

Ironically neither Matador or Hell Biker gave me too much trouble. I was over leveled by the time I encountered Matador and I think plain old good luck was with me for Hell Biker because he was never a major threat. But probably the one fight that did frustrate me was the one against a Rider. I think it was the pale rider but I am not sure. He kept randomly appearing to fight me and at the time I wasn't properly prepared or had figured out what works best against him so I always ended up dying. Eventually I figured it out but up until that point I was really pissed . Lucifer would make the list too although considering he is the game's ultimate boss, that really isn't a major surprise.

Shinogu

03-19-2008, 10:44 AM

I think the other one that I had a hard time with was Nyx Avatar in the Graveyard Challenge.

I think you mean Baal Avatar, but I do agree to some extent. When I fought her in the Tower of Kagutsuchi, for some reason she never summoned her Hallel minions or I wiped her out before she could. Either way she would get them in for the Burial Chamber battles.

Personally, the most annoying boss fight (also the hardest) was completing the Burial Chamber challenge for ####ing Noah. I wasn't going for Maniacs ending, so no Pierce meant I had to create a whole new Vishnu just to have more of a chance of beating him right under the Press Turn limit. Sucked major until I finally got him.

massaker

03-19-2008, 03:24 PM

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5430/58295820041012screen008eu6.jpg

That guy is the badest mofo, wonder how many people he's sent to the Atlus loading screen lol

Zachalmighty

03-25-2008, 12:45 PM

For me the hardest was those three sisters, they had virtually no weaknesses it pissed me off so much.

massaker

04-08-2008, 02:27 PM

Have to say Aciel was a big pain in the ass with sol niger, and the black oni is tough.

Zachalmighty

04-08-2008, 02:52 PM

Have to say Aciel was a big pain in the ass with sol niger, and the black oni is tough.I just fought the dude with Sol Niger last night. Had to fight him three times hoping he missed or did not attack my main character.

Juanblue85

04-21-2008, 01:17 PM

Have to say Aciel was a big pain in the ass with sol niger, and the black oni is tough.

The black oni was really easy if u fought him during the full moon since his shadow appears when he splits into four I believe.

Black-Mist-Ninja

05-10-2008, 03:55 PM

I had a little trouble with Lucifer...but not after I got the uber magitama XD

allie_razakel

05-31-2008, 07:42 AM

piyochan

06-06-2008, 04:30 PM

Matador. Matador. Matador. :evil:

And Metatron, it seems. I heard that Beelzebub was the worst...but I had no trouble with him. And yes, Aciel too. SOL NIGER. 0__0

The rest are all fine and dandy. 8)
Matador's really the most annoying boss in Nocturne

And ironically, Metatron is just a piece of cake... :twisted:
Raise MC & his demon partners' level,
use the support skills properly,
it's not so difficult to defeat him within 10~15 minutes,
so does Beelzebub.

Gen Eric Gui

06-06-2008, 07:52 PM

Well, honestly, pretty much every boss after you get access to a Mitama that has Bright/Dark Might is cake.

V0LK0V

06-10-2008, 08:22 AM

I thought I already posted my response to this thread, but apparently not.

My hardest boss fight was definitely Matador. Definitely.

radius

06-13-2008, 11:43 AM

Matador was the toughest one I face when I played Nocturne for the first time. I fondly remember keep whooping my ass three times in a role. Keep in mind, this was my first Atlus game and I thought, seeing as it was a rpg, it'd be as lenient as a FF game. Boy, was a wrong. :shock: Anyway, once I wised up and realized I had to be careful with my fushions, he never became a problem again. :twisted:

Kakizaki

06-13-2008, 01:46 PM

Well, honestly, pretty much every boss after you get access to a Mitama that has Bright/Dark Might is cake.

Except if they have a resistance to physical.

Gen Eric Gui

06-17-2008, 08:23 AM

Well, that's why I said "pretty much every boss" and not "all bosses".

Fortinbras

07-24-2008, 07:21 PM

The Matador. I remember him because I had to train for a while just to beat him!

mokoi

07-26-2008, 12:46 AM

The black oni...whooped my ass until I noticed the shadow trick.

True Hollow Demon Kira

08-11-2008, 02:20 AM

WOW.....judging by alot it seems 'Matador won the Douche Bag Fiend of the Year Awards'

no one gave me any real problems.....the longest battle i had was incomplete Mara...i had a tug-of-war- healing spell fight....i hit it...it heals...it hits me..my partners heals....but after awhile i realised my Loki had teyarakarn....hehehe she killed herself since i used taunt twice...then she did hades blast and died.....dumb bitch shudda cast megidola

Nyarlathotep

11-03-2008, 05:37 PM

Yuppers. Matador pwned my ass all over the sewers. His agi was brutal and he hit hard. Then I discovered the miracle of Fog Breath and it never left my main.

Hit him once with it and he is not too quick to dispel it.

Emilio Morales

11-04-2008, 07:16 AM

Matador, Trumpeter and Lucifer! Those three were really annoying!

Freikugel

11-04-2008, 06:35 PM

I agree with Dark Heat...

The most difficult boss is matador(For the first time playing this game) after I defeat him...This game is more interesting ..because i think the next boss is easier..even dante n beelzebub..
Matador has a Red Capote(agility/evad max), and then andalucia..It will kill your party at single turn if that is a critical..

After I start with a New cycle..Matador was very easy..^^

lol..

StrikeRaider

11-04-2008, 08:09 PM

I hate Surt. Especially if you don't save first since the terminal isn't obvious in that building. Daisoujo teaches you the importance of buffs though. And Matador for being a jerk with his fancy red cape.

Freikugel

12-19-2008, 06:26 AM

At first MATADOR will be the hardest one!

Raidou89

12-27-2008, 06:28 PM

That ninja demon that made copies of itself piss me off big time.

Sei

12-27-2008, 06:44 PM

I also think Matador is the toughest. All the other ones give you a lot more options. It's a very educational battle though, teaches you the importance of Rakukaja and Sukunda. Or if you level up enough, Fog Breath. You practically need Uzume and Nozuchi for it, though.

Nekoclasm

01-24-2009, 11:04 AM

I'd have to say Matador. Man he smoked me atleast 7 times.

Lucifer was hard too, but I kinda Deserved it :X
Lv66ish, Main was only one with Pierce(w/e that one is called, and his best attack was the lazer eyes) Dante, Titania and Hell Biker. I think I broke my record for the longest boss fight with a 2hr fight XD.

The only thing that saved me from a longer fight was Dantes attack that lowers def, but skyrockets the enemies phy attack.
Ahhh once I get my ps2 back, its a new save to see what I can do in a speed run.

Auden

01-24-2009, 02:39 PM

Matador for me as well.. i remember dying a few times, going back to the mansion and fusing a bicorn... inmune to Zan skills. that was the way i took the matador out.

Elio

02-06-2009, 12:00 PM

Any battle having the Boss Kotowari Battle playing in the background brings bad memories of a cheap, hard and tediously long boss fight. Damn you Noah. How were you supposed to know what next specific attack to use >.< Well it was just long because I only had one demon for the fire and ice attacks (Black froest) and one for thunder and power(dante).

Ahriman was no pushover either especially with apocalypse.

Baal was pretty easy though

Kotowari Boss Battle is now the most song I have listened to in my library:)

MasterPoker

02-08-2009, 06:29 PM

Matador, because I was around Lv13 on Hard. Yeah, no hope there.

Since most of the game, my boss win condition was Life Drain/Mana Drain, Mara was laughably easy. No MP=No Auto-Heal. Ba-al Avatar was tough - I had recently gotten rid of Void Curse - and so I had to adapt a strategy of keeping up a Reflect Phys/Reflect Magic up every single round (using Life Drain to keep enough MP) until I got her out of MP.

Auden

02-10-2009, 04:01 PM

looks like the Matador is winning here XD. another boss that gave me a headache was Mot, i didn;t have any zio skills in my party for some reason... had to go all the way with megido's and bye bye SP T_T

ChinoZaki

02-11-2009, 08:12 AM

The hardest bosses I have faced so far in this game were The Harlot & Hell Biker.

On the other hand...the LONGEST boss battles I faced were Noah & Lucifer for sure.

The FUNNIEST boss battles were definitely Kagutsuchi (giant disco ball wtf) & Mara (lol manikins, more like failikins)

darksora

02-11-2009, 05:26 PM

ALL i did was train so they were all easy maybe noah the first time cause i fought him with just the main and dante and i was a psy attach mainly and no elemental execpt dante's whirlind

Jean-Baptiste Clamence

02-12-2009, 12:32 PM

Sphinx316

02-13-2009, 05:10 PM

I'm stuck at Thor he kind of cruched my will to play.

massaker

02-14-2009, 02:38 PM

All I can remeber of thor is grinding his bones to dust with the epic cog wheels of my demon army. BWAAHAHAHAAAAA!

Sorry I get carried away sometimes.

Is that the part near the start when you get judged or later?

syl

02-14-2009, 10:02 PM

Hardest boss was the Trumpeter b/c I would lose count of how many times he blew his trumpet and wouldn't summon the expendable party member in time.

Jaxx-Leviathan

02-15-2009, 02:21 AM

Having just started playing this game and Matador being my first serious Boss, he's the toughest. And as already pointed out multiple times, the only real problem with him is that he appears at a time where you can't possibly be naturally strong enough. I'm still grinding to be able to beat him. Hopefully I'll have him done sometime today.

mrbakasan

02-15-2009, 02:20 PM

Am I the only one that struggled through Metatron. That battle took forever and was, by far, the hardest for me and my wife.

kufufu

02-15-2009, 04:30 PM

Ongyo-ki gave me a lot of trouble when I went up against him for the first time. Even during the Full Kagutsuchi phase.. DYIN. Turns out that I was really underlevelled and didn't have snazzy skills on my demons.

Oddly enough, all the other bosses weren't difficult. :|

SquishyDuckMan

02-17-2009, 08:24 AM

I'll chime in with the majority here and say the Matador. I was cruising along just fine until I ran into him. I had no dekaja or -nda skills for Ongyo-Ki, so that was painful the first time, but after I learned my lesson it was a piece of cake. The only other boss that really challenged me was Beelzebub. Though I will agree with some that Metatron was a pain.

-AAM

Buffel

02-18-2009, 04:54 AM

I'll also cast my vote for Matador. Certainly one of those battles that stands out for its difficulty.

Honourable mention also goes to Mot for Beast's Eye + Makakaja + Megidoraon spam.

MrBubbles

03-03-2009, 11:14 AM

People kept hyping Matador for me.

"Wait till you meet him".

So I'm breezing through the game and I got the sewers. I was lost because I didn't know what to do so I grinded a while. Then I found the collector and did his quest and I was like, "This game isn't too hard" and I bragged about it online. I asked someone, "How hard is this Madator? I'm at the sewers" and all he responds is "You're about to find out".

I go in and I lost within 5 minutes. Stunned.

Sleepless Neko

03-05-2009, 05:33 AM

Matador... He scares me to the point I don't want to touch Nocturne anymore...
Until I figured the way to defeat him.

And Mot, because of his lovely Beast Eye Chain Combo!

cj iwakura

03-05-2009, 07:37 PM

On Hard 2nd Cycle, Mara actually gave me a hard time, since he kept killing my whole team before I could get an action off.

Null Mind fixed that quickly enough.

NaturalHazard

04-11-2009, 12:38 PM

hehe the Matador got me generally because I wasn't expecting it :P

Oni-Kagura

04-13-2009, 01:20 PM

Matador was probably the hardest boss, unless you count a very early fight against Mara.

seigyukai

07-05-2009, 08:56 PM

Hell Biker actually gave me more trouble than Matador oddly enough. Still the hardest fight for me was Ahriman- he could choose to use dekunda followed by apocalypse to kill you anytime! I could only win by including shiki-ouji in my party so Arhiman would lose his turns whenever he used tentacle... I call cheese on that boss, lol. The most annoying fight however was far and away Noah. I didn't have the necessary elemental spread available amongst my main demons to fight him effectively, so he took about two hours to kill.

MomoChan

10-10-2009, 10:57 PM

Ongyo-Ki.

Before I learned that you needed to fight him at Full Kagutsuchi to see through the illusions, I was hard-pressed to guess which one was not a dope.

The Fiends weren't all that fearsome, except maybe for Trumpeter.

Deified Data

03-16-2010, 02:08 PM

Ahriman, by far, gave me the most trouble, as he had the habit of casting Dekunda as soon as he entered his second form. On my fourth try, he just spammed Apocalypse, and he went down fairly quickly. Lucifer was pretty difficult too, but only because it was a painful test of one's patience.

You'll find Ahriman surprisingly easy if you use spells that buff your own party, as opposed to debuffing Ahriman. I maxed out my party's magic, defense, and agility using -kaja spells and he never bothered using Dekaja on me. I don't even know if he knows it. Ultimately, his Apocalypse/Megidolaon combos were highly damaging, but they weren't capable of wiping out my party in one turn. Heal, and continue to barrage him with random-target, high-damage magic.

My most desperate struggle was against Thor. You don't have a Magatama to protect agaist electricity at that point, and he'll crush you if you're underlevelled.