What do you want in Persona 5 ?

[Souji_Seta]

You think that Atlus has deficiencies in developing Persona ?

You have some ideas to modify the new version ?

For example :

You don't want your birthday being pass ?

"Please don't skip my birthday , Atlus ! :D"

I'm make this topic to gather YOUR ideas

The nice ideas will be send to Atlus

NOW " Lets start giving Atlus ideas for Persona 5 ! "

One more Example for E-mail :

Title : I have ideas for Persona 5
From : [insert name here]
To : service at atlus dot com

Persona 3 and Persona 4 lack of birthday system

So Please add the Birthday System to Persona 5

And you should also make the S.Links longer than 10 ranks too

As the game would need to be longer

Thank you ,
[Your name]
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[Zacewing]

Atlus USA is a publisher, not a developer. They don't get to decide that kind of stuff.

EDIT: Also, no more PS2.

[Onion of Mystery]

Pestering our tech support email address for input on something that we don't have any effect on doesn't do anything but annoy the poor guy who has to sift through those emails. That said, I'm going to break your link to keep even more spambots from trolling us.

[PersonaFan]

I felt sorry for this guy.
He just didn't knew this I think.

[Kenji]

Considering how often Atlus employees have to tell people they don't develop games, I think the excuse of "I didn't know" ran out a loooong time ago.

Frankly, I'm surprised they aren't a lot more snippy about it. :P

[jeffx]

bogus thread is bogus.

[Christhor]

Atlus don't develop games? Hmm... Well at least some sites say that they published AND developed Persona 4, including Wikipedia. But then who makes the games? It can't be Square-Enix, is it that Criware thingy?

Well anyway, does Atlus develop any of their games? If not then this sorta reminds me of Enix, who never made a single game...

[Onion of Mystery]

Atlus Japan is a developer and publisher.

Atlus USA is a publisher and localizer, and an arm of Atlus Japan.

[Kenji]

Atlus Japan develops games.

Atlus USA localizes them.

... ninja'd.

[Olethros]

Atlus JAPAN develops games.

Atlus USA localizes them.

(Maybe we get through via repetition? ;))

[Christhor]

Oh... Well then Atlus USA could probably just forward their requests to Atlus Japan, that'd probably be tiring for the though. Well either way I did actually know that it was Atlus Japan that made the games, and that Atlus USA localized them.

[jeffx]

Atlus USA is a publisher and localizer, and an arm of Atlus Japan.

THIS IS HOW WE GET GAME REQUESTS THROUGH TO YOU GUYS NOW EH?

OH, IT IS ON.

http://www.usd376.com/hs/staff/bedorec/Arm-Wrestling-World-Wide.gif

[Emilio Morales]

Wow! Already thinking in Persona 5? Let the series have a little rest! No matter how much I love the Persona franchise, for now I just want to see some cool re-makes, like Persona 1 on the PSP and maybe, maybe (God, please listen to me!) a re-make of Persona 2 Tsumi and Batsu for the PSP too :D

And I want to see what Atlus plans to do with the Megaten franchise on the new generations of consoles (please PS3 :D)

[Zacewing]

Oh... Well then Atlus USA could probably just forward their requests to Atlus Japan, that'd probably be tiring for the though. Well either way I did actually know that it was Atlus Japan that made the games, and that Atlus USA localized them.

Well, that wouldn't work because the staff over at Atlus Japan probably don't understand English all too well.

[Souji_Seta]

Nah , this thread wasn't my idea , is from a Vietnam web , and i just translate it to see what are you guys reaction , i don't think that an email could be a great idea ..
If you don't believe me , check this out ,and plz , it Vietnamese , i'm sure that you won't understand it ...
http://forum.gamevn.com/showthread.php?t=548496
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[P4er2009]

Well, I have played through Persona 3, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 4. I'm kinda dedicated to persona series. There are a few features that I suggest can be incorporated into Persona 5.

1. Keep fusion skills system in Persona 3
If you pay attention to the story of each persona, you will know there are connections between personas, like Shiva & Parvati, Titania & Oberon, Scathach & Cu Chulainn and so on. Peronas with a strong bond can perform the ultimate fusion skills. That's cool!!

2. Update s.link system

In general sense:
The interations with your s.link can be even cloer to the real life. You are able to freely contact your s.link member via phone calls, cellphone text messages, or email.

And even more, I suggest that relationship with certain s.link members will affect story development so that you may have special cutscenes or events.

About lovers:
It's best to have just only one lover at a time. It seems wired that you can date mutiple girls, say "I want to be with you" to all of them, and all of them accpet that. I suggest MC can choose one female from s.links to be girlfriend. All romantic stuffs can focus on MC's only one girlfriend.

Once you decide MC's girlfriend, eveyone would know that. If the female s.link is your party member, the story dailouges would slightly differ accordingly.

3.Fusion skills between MC and his party members

MC and his party member→Best friends: fusion skills of Best friends
MC and his party member→Lovers: Lover's special skills

If Persona 5 can have all of those above, that would be great.

[Souji_Seta]

Well, I have played through Persona 3, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 4. I'm kinda dedicated to persona series. There are a few features that I suggest can be incorporated into Persona 5.

1. Keep fusion skills system in Persona 3
If you pay attention to the story of each persona, you will know there are connections between personas, like Shiva & Parvati, Titania & Oberon, Scathach & Cu Chulainn and so on. Peronas with a strong bond can perform the ultimate fusion skills. That's cool!!

2. Update s.link system

In general sense:
The interations with your s.link can be even cloer to the real life. You are able to freely contact your s.link member via phone calls, cellphone text messages, or email.

And even more, I suggest that relationship with certain s.link members will affect story development so that you may have special cutscenes or events.

About lovers:
It's best to have just only one lover at a time. It seems wired that you can date mutiple girls, say "I want to be with you" to all of them, and all of them accpet that. I suggest MC can choose one female from s.links to be girlfriend. All romantic stuffs can focus on MC's only one girlfriend.

Once you decide MC's girlfriend, eveyone would know that. If the female s.link is your party member, the story dailouges would slightly differ accordingly.

3.Fusion skills between MC and his party members

MC and his party member?Best friends: fusion skills of Best friends
MC and his party member?Lovers: Lover's special skills

If Persona 5 can have all of those above, that would be great.


COOL ...

In general sense:
The interations with your s.link can be even cloer to the real life. You are able to freely contact your s.link member via phone calls, cellphone text messages, or email.


Love this part xD
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[P4er2009]

Besides I hope in persona 5, you can feel the special concerns from your lovers all the time like Aigis & P3's MC.

For one more thing, the persona fusions always keep the players lost in the wide-open sea. You will never know how to fuse to target personas. All you can do is do trial-and-error or view fusion data in Internet or from a guideline book. In persona 5, I hope there would be a fusion manuals, hints, or guidebook in the game for reference.

For instance, the persona data might be sort out by Arcana or Level in Velvet Room. If your target persona is Hell Biker, and learn Hell Biker's Arcana, level requirement, and fusion possibilities.

[King9999]

Here's what I'd like to see in a Persona 5:

1. Drop the restrictive calendar system
In other words, I'd like the next Persona to play more like the games before P3.

2. Skill inheritance needs to be tweaked
Having to deselect your personae in order to shuffle skills around is annoying. Why not just allow skills to be shuffled with the press of a button when viewing the persona result screen? Another feature I've been thinking about is some sort of point allocation system when transferring skills. Basically, the easier it is for a persona to inherit a skill, the less points it would take to carry over. Naturally, skills that a persona wouldn't learn as easily would take more points to learn. This would eliminate skill shuffling entirely, thus reducing the time it takes to get the desired skills on a persona. But the player would still have to think about what skills they want.

3. Put P5 on next-gen consoles
I'd like to see what Atlus is capable of on a next-gen console. I guess that won't happen for some time since the PS2 is still doing very well, but still, I wonder what the developers could come up with when they have more power and storage at their disposal. How many more Personae could be added on BD? :razz:

4. P5 should take place in another country?
This is really a semi-serious suggestion, and probably wouldn't even happen, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. What if P5 took place somewhere other than Japan? How about in North America for a change? Russia? Africa? North Korea? :razz:

5. Less Disposable Persona?
Many RPGs tend to give you a skill that's usable for a while until the next best thing comes along and makes the previous skill obsolete. Persona games are the same way. There's no reason to go back to a previous Persona once you have something that's far superior. Maybe for P5, there would be less Persona overall, but each one would be more meaningful? Like, Jack Frost would have low-level skills to start with, but it would continually gain new skills over the course of the game, sort of like how your party members' Personae do. If you make each Persona unique in some way, you have more of an attachment to it and may not just simply trade it in for Yo####sune.

[P4er2009]

[QUOTE=King9999;111159]Here's what I'd like to see in a Persona 5:

1. Drop the restrictive calendar system
In other words, I'd like the next Persona to play more like the games before P3.
I only played through Persona 3, persona 3 fes, and persona 4. So I can not undertand what do you mean by dropping the restrictive calendar system.
Persona 3 through persona 4 moves the game forwards day by day. Do you mean that you don't want game move like this?

2. Skill inheritance needs to be tweaked
Having to deselect your personae in order to shuffle skills around is annoying. Why not just allow skills to be shuffled with the press of a button when viewing the persona result screen? Another feature I've been thinking about is some sort of point allocation system when transferring skills. Basically, the easier it is for a persona to inherit a skill, the less points it would take to carry over. Naturally, skills that a persona wouldn't learn as easily would take more points to learn. This would eliminate skill shuffling entirely, thus reducing the time it takes to get the desired skills on a persona. But the player would still have to think about what skills they want.

It's a good point. I agree with you. It's annoying to tranfer the desired skills in persona fusions. It always takes tons of yens and time to do this.

The idea of points alloction in skill inheritance sounds good. It's kinda like FF XII, you need to skill points so you can learn the skills you prefer.

My idea is that persona 5 can incoporate skill points, which can be possibly gained through fighting shadows with skills you have. In persona fusion, skills inhertance requires skill points to be performed. The factor that determines the amount of points you may need to comsume is the level of the skills. The higher skills require more points, and the lower skills the less points.
3. Put P5 on next-gen consoles
I'd like to see what Atlus is capable of on a next-gen console. I guess that won't happen for some time since the PS2 is still doing very well, but still, I wonder what the developers could come up with when they have more power and storage at their disposal. How many more Personae could be added on BD? :razz:


[B]It might be very possible. Persona series transplanted to next-gen consoles may have a better improvement in game performance. But I would rather persona series to stay in PS2 though I think the possibility is slim.

[Samarecarm]

Well, I know this thread will not go to the authorities that matter, but I will chime in anyway.

The more I play the Persona 2 games, the more I enjoy the fact that every character is able to summon a different Persona, with the exception of a few (Maya with Maia, etc). What I dislike about Persona 3, and perhaps Persona 4 as well, is that each character is... a Power Ranger. I remember that's why I didn't like Legend of Dragoon, amongst other qualities.

I know the main characters have to be unique, so they perhaps have to be different colors, but...ehck. I think we could live without the blue-red-yellow-orange-green you-get-the-picture characters, yes? This is a small gripe, but thinking about Persona 3's cast based on colors, seems...well, cheap. I believe the first game was not like this, and the 2nd games do not have this as well.

[raiku]

on your bday, it should be a party, where all your S. Links are there and whatever level that link is at you get a item depending on it(like maxed out s. links you get a powerful weapon or a soma)

[Pibbman]

Wow! Already thinking in Persona 5? Let the series have a little rest! No matter how much I love the Persona franchise, for now I just want to see some cool re-makes, like Persona 1 on the PSP and maybe, maybe (God, please listen to me!) a re-make of Persona 2 Tsumi and Batsu for the PSP too :D

And I want to see what Atlus plans to do with the Megaten franchise on the new generations of consoles (please PS3 :D)

Pretty much almost identical to a thread I made a few months back. Anyways on that note, I'm pretty sure Persona 5 won't be seeing the light of day for a long time, considering Play Magazine's interview with the producer at Atlus Japan, has them stating they don't feel it's "healthy" for the team to constantly stay on one franchise (they did P3 then P3:FES and then P4 right after), if you ask me...that's an indication they're planning to work on something else afterwards.

[Iris]

I'd rather see the Persona series take a break for a while.

But in a hypothetical world where they're making P5 now anyway, my main desire would be: no more calendar system, no more social links. Please. It was interesting and innovative the first time. The second time it was tweaked to work a little better, which was nice, but still gave me feelings that I'd been there and done that already. I don't want to do it a third time.

I miss everybody being able to change Personae. Fusion spells were way more interesting in P2 than P3, too.

[Lauro]

i would like an long haired MC.

well, i have long hair ya know, and the two MCs from Persona
3 and 4 have short hair D:

[AbsyntheDelacroix]

I'd rather see the Persona series take a break for a while.

But in a hypothetical world where they're making P5 now anyway, my main desire would be: no more calendar system, no more social links. Please. It was interesting and innovative the first time. The second time it was tweaked to work a little better, which was nice, but still gave me feelings that I'd been there and done that already. I don't want to do it a third time.

I miss everybody being able to change Personae. Fusion spells were way more interesting in P2 than P3, too.

This. I really enjoyed the system, but I'd like to go back to the origins, and no more calendar system plz. It's just too restricting for my tastes.

[Zacewing]

Gender selection, have Personas continuously learning skills (like your other party members), and make the game more forgiving (Protagonist death = Game Over sucks. They could at least give you a chance to revive him).

[Emilio Morales]

I would like to see:

-Contact System.
-Rumor System.
-Multiple Personas for the party members.
-Being able to explore different dungeons along the city, not just a Tartarus or a TV World.
-Dungeon design, in other words, no more randomized dungeons.
-If it's going to have the calendar system again, then let us do more activities for each day, I always feel like I completely lost all my time just to play with a cat outside the house and that didn't leave me time to other more important things.
-More equipment for the characters, like helmet and boots (like in P2).
-Return of Philemon, Nyarlathotep, Demon Artist, Belladona and Nameless.
-A birthday event.
-World map navigation (like any other megaten game) instead of choosing locations in the map.

That's all I can think of now.

[Lauro]

it would be cool if they made ALL the city playable =D imagine that!

[Pibbman]

I'd rather see the Persona series take a break for a while.

But in a hypothetical world where they're making P5 now anyway, my main desire would be: no more calendar system, no more social links. Please. It was interesting and innovative the first time. The second time it was tweaked to work a little better, which was nice, but still gave me feelings that I'd been there and done that already. I don't want to do it a third time.

I miss everybody being able to change Personae. Fusion spells were way more interesting in P2 than P3, too.

Way I see it, if it's not broken don't fix it. These additions that you're saying you don't like, is what has been giving the series the high ratings it got and the additional fanbase.

Personally I like them, and I want to see them stay. I think it adds another layer of strategy to the game. That is budgeting your time, and it makes it seem more realistic too.

[Kakizaki]

Way I see it, if it's not broken don't fix it. These additions that you're saying you don't like, is what has been giving the series the high ratings it got and the additional fanbase.

You realize that is what fans of the pre-P3 Persona titles felt as well right?

[Pibbman]

Way I see it, if it's not broken don't fix it. These additions that you're saying you don't like, is what has been giving the series the high ratings it got and the additional fanbase.

You realize that is what fans of the pre-P3 Persona titles felt as well right?

Probably, the fact remains that changes are gonna happen eventually. Much as I'd like them to keep it where they got it now, doesn't mean I expect they'll have that way from now on. I know there were things in P3 I wish they kept in P4, but oh well it was still a fantastic game.

[Kenji]

-Contact System.
Only if it's a real contact system. I don't want something watered down like in P2, where it feels like I'm just exploiting another set of elemental weaknesses.

-Rumor System.
Yes. I want the rumors to affect the game so radically that different rumor chains cause different endings. I want to be able to change the parameters of dungeons based on rumors. If people start calling me a terrorist that burns buildings down, I want to become said terrorist. ;)

Moreover, I don't want there to be a hub for telling rumors a la the Kuzunoha Detective Agency. I want every response I give to every person to have some effect on the rumors being spread, just like how every answer you give in the main series ultimately plays into your alignment.

[Souji_Seta]

MC 's died = Game over sucks
<-- Really true , i hate that , we could use the others to save him ..
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[Futomimi]

More shota.

[Kenji]

I just had a thought...

What if, by combining the Rumor and S. Link systems, you had the option of spreading a rumor instead of doing the actual work to get a girlfriend? That opens the door to some pretty twisted ####...

[akira121]

:)1. i'd want a girl MC, it'd be a nice change of pace
2. homosexual options in social links
3. after beating a game have a new game+ that carries over leval
thnak you for hearing out my opinion

[AbsyntheDelacroix]

:)1. i'd want a girl MC, it'd be a nice change of pace
2. homosexual options in social links

I see what you did there.

[Ike.]

I would just prefer there not be a Persona 5. The series feels pretty complete to me.

Also, gay relationships in games are never worth the ####storm they cause. See: Mass Effect.

[Zacewing]

I want optional homosexual relationships in P5.

You don't know how badly I wanted to pair Yosuke with the protagonist in P4.

[Rin]

Sorry if I offended anyone here...

[SickleCellAnemia]

:)1. i'd want a girl MC, it'd be a nice change of pace
Well, there's Persona 2: Eternal Punishment...

[QUOTE=akira121;111410]well even though he's not really a gay though...

I've ran into a gay or two.

[Futomimi]

:)2. homosexual options in social links


For me, I really hate yaoi/yuri (No offense to anyone, just my opinion)... Homosexual... You really remind me of Kanji, well even though he's not really a gay though...
Ugh, I shuddered with just imagining P5 with homosexual options... :lovefirefox: (IE is homosexual/lesbians, MF is straight)

uhhh... what? Wow.

[Kenji]

Oh, you know how it goes. It only starts with homosexual "options." Then, before long, the sickos will push for bestiality, incest, polygamy, etc., so you'll be in a foul relationship with Nanako, Koromaru and your dead mom, and the game will be ruined! I even hear that, once they do implement a gay option, there won't be anymore straight options...!

Then the Persona series will be ruined forever and retroactively and Square-Enix will win, what with their... smoking hot, delicious men... That's why we must protect the sanctity of our heterosexual unions with fictional characters!!

[Futomimi]

^ And, apart from that, the Persona series will ruin the sanctity of Britney Spears's 55-hour marriage. Oh noez!

[Shinji_Ryori]

How bout putting extra costumes and MC can equip different types of weapons too.

And adding more place to explore is nice too.

[Onion of Mystery]

Oh, you know how it goes. It only starts with homosexual "options." Then, before long, the sickos will push for bestiality, incest, polygamy, etc., so you'll be in a foul relationship with Nanako, Koromaru and your dead mom, and the game will be ruined!

And we'll call it...
The Aristocrats!

[Olethros]

I've ran into a gay or two.

LOL Sickle.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Oh, you know how it goes. It only starts with homosexual "options." Then, before long, the sickos will push for bestiality, incest, polygamy, etc.
I also want an objectum sexual option so I can have social link options with and go out with a bridge, an automobile, a fire hydrant, and an ocean liner, ALL at the same time!

And make sweet, sweet love to all of em!

[Kenji]

I also want an objectum sexual option so I can have social link options with and go out with a bridge, an automobile, a fire hydrant, and an ocean liner, ALL at the same time!
Oh, the horror! How could you be involved in something so sick, so perverse, so unholy! Even though I envy you for even thinking such thoughts, what with your glamorous lifestyle... God wouldn't allow such things in Tokyo Millennium!!

... except for the car bit.... but only if it's domestic.

And we'll call it...
The Aristocrats!
If you can hire Bob Sagat for narration, I'm totally on board. :D

[Futomimi]

Can it be raining men in Persona 5's weather system too?

[Decept]

Can it be raining men in Persona 5's weather system too?

OH and mermaids. Where there's water, there should always be mermaids with oversized... Personalities. Yes, add them to the social heirarchy that we have created above^

They should be somewhere above a fire hydrant, but definitely below the character equivalent to Bob Sagat. Yes, that should do.

[Rin]

But... I'd rather not...

[Isshin_Ryori]

He didnt know that from the start........thats a shame really

[Futomimi]

Oh, you know how it goes. It only starts with homosexual "options." Then, before long, the sickos will push for bestiality, incest, polygamy, etc., so you'll be in a foul relationship with Nanako, Koromaru and your dead mom, and the game will be ruined! I even hear that, once they do implement a gay option, there won't be anymore straight options...!

Then the Persona series will be ruined forever and retroactively and Square-Enix will win, what with their... smoking hot, delicious men... That's why we must protect the sanctity of our heterosexual unions with fictional characters!!

:agree: Couldn't say it better than that...


Wow, WTF? Seriously? Do you even realize that pretty much everyone in the thread is making fun of you? I was trying not to get serious earlier, but you are ridiculous.

In case you still don't get it, here's what you said with a different minority:

"For me, I really hate blacks (No offense to anyone, just my opinion)... (N-words)...
Ugh, I shuddered with just imagining P5 with black people... :lovefirefox: (IE is black, MF is white) "

Do you even see how inappropriate and ####ed up that is?

[peasantman]

I want optional homosexual relationships in P5.

You don't know how badly I wanted to pair Yosuke with the protagonist in P4.

As a heterosexual I think this would be interesting too. It's already a rated M game, plus I think it would give it a good variance and depth. My main problem with relationships is that it never feels different than just standard social links. But the main problem is that by having heterosexual and homosexual options the MC will essentially be ####ing(or spend a long time) with EVERYBODY and that's just wrong

[Rin]

Oh, you know how it goes. It only starts with homosexual "options." Then, before long, the sickos will push for bestiality, incest, polygamy, etc., so you'll be in a foul relationship with Nanako, Koromaru and your dead mom, and the game will be ruined! I even hear that, once they do implement a gay option, there won't be anymore straight options...!

Then the Persona series will be ruined forever and retroactively and Square-Enix will win, what with their... smoking hot, delicious men... That's why we must protect the sanctity of our heterosexual unions with fictional characters!!

:agree: Couldn't say it better than that...


Wow, WTF? Seriously? Do you even realize that pretty much everyone in the thread is making fun of you? I was trying not to get serious earlier, but you are ridiculous.

In case you still don't get it, here's what you said with a different minority:

"For me, I really hate blacks (No offense to anyone, just my opinion)... (N-words)...
Ugh, I shuddered with just imagining P5 with black people... :lovefirefox: (IE is black, MF is white) "

Do you even see how inappropriate and ####ed up that is?

Well... I've said that it was only my opinion, really... Don't think of it too much... Sorry if I offended anyone though...

[P4er2009]

In persona 5, in addition to the ideas mentions previously, I have two more simple suggestions.

That is...........

One....
I wish Persona 5 can allow the player to choose characters as MC from the start. The character of your choice can be male or femal.... Each character reflects unique perspective of the story.

Two....
I wish Persona 5 can enable mutiple cutscenes or endings based on each choice & action you've made. No more linear story development.

[Pibbman]

MC 's died = Game over sucks
<-- Really true , i hate that , we could use the others to save him ..

It kinda make sense the way it is though, you're playing the game through the MCs "eyes".

More shota.

Oh God.

How bout putting extra costumes and MC can equip different types of weapons too.

And adding more place to explore is nice too.

Soo....sorta like P3? Seriously I MISS that so much. I loved having my female counterparts running around in skimpy armor, but I was really sad to see that taken out in P4. I sometimes wonder if it was because of Naoto.

In persona 5, in addition to the ideas mentions previously, I have two more simple suggestions.

That is...........

One....
I wish Persona 5 can allow the player to choose characters as MC from the start. The character of your choice can be male or femal.... Each character reflects unique perspective of the story.

Two....
I wish Persona 5 can enable mutiple cutscenes or endings based on each choice & action you've made. No more linear story development.

You should go to playmagazine.com and search Persona 4, they have 3 different interviews with the folks at Atlus Japan, and those exact those additions you had were addressed in those interviews.

Its a great read, but for those who are in interest of saving time. They said they have been asked by Japanese players to include an option about choosing genders. However, in the interest of keeping to budget they couldn't afford to do it. So in other words, it's gonna either be male or female. I wouldn't be surprised if P5 has a female though.

For your second one, it was basically the same as what I said before, its all about money and development time. In any case, I whole heartedly agree with those two because I'd love to see different perspectives.

But damn, they just need to bring back heart items and changeable costumes, and I'm pretty much happy. Also bringing back someone to do the item shop's "trading item for item" like Knights Card for Swords or weapons with ailments. I do wish P5 would have status ailments more heavily involved again.

[Kurizu204]

Got to say i agree with some homosexual options in soul links.

Wouldn't mind seeing a female main character but not the option of choosing since i doubt the developers would want to make each cut scene twice.

defiantly would like to see more costumes. maybe adding that to the soul link system. for example where a trendy out fit makes a character like you more.

jack frost as a party member jk jk jk

i'd like to see another animal persona user.

[Pibbman]

Got to say i agree with some homosexual options in soul links.

Wouldn't mind seeing a female main character but not the option of choosing since i doubt the developers would want to make each cut scene twice.

defiantly would like to see more costumes. maybe adding that to the soul link system. for example where a trendy out fit makes a character like you more.

jack frost as a party member jk jk jk

i'd like to see another animal persona user.

Like a black cat. xD I love kitties. :D

[Iris]

I want the rumors to affect the game so radically that different rumor chains cause different endings. I want to be able to change the parameters of dungeons based on rumors.

YES. This this this.

I loved some of the little things you could do with demon rumors and contracts to change dungeon navigation in P2. Like in Club Zodiac, there're all the SP traps on the floors, but if you ask around, you can find out that Otohime is a neat freak, and then if you contract her, you can make her clean it up for you. Or getting the treasure room in the Undersea Ruins (god only knows how much time I spent chasing Aeshma down to get the rumors, since I wanted to get everything).

Or being able to change the properties of your legendary weapons on the fly.

I'd really love to see what kinds of things they could pull off with the current technology.

[Crabman]

...Or getting the treasure room in the Undersea Ruins (god only knows how much time I spent chasing Aeshma down to get the rumors, since I wanted to get everything).

Oh man, she was a pain in the ass, even with a guide!

I agree though, having the rumours have much more effect on the game to the point of changing endings would be awesome.

[mometasone]

Hi, I'm new here but just thought I'd put in my two cents as well.

1. A female MC. Reason: P3/P4 (dunno about 1/2) have male main characters. It may be a style but a simple way to keep things fresh would be to switch about the MC gender which would in turn affect the social link dynamics in future Persona games. It doesn't have to be a super-feminine MC either (just look at FFXIII), and if keeping the male fan-base is an issue then "homosexual" relationships, as mentioned by previous posters, could be supported in this way as well. *As a side note (and very wishful thinking): I really wouldn't mind having Nanako as an MC. Her S.Link was by far the most engaging for me.

2. Different time period (present or future, or even fantasy/sci-fi?). Reason: P3/4 have covered the "present" high school life in a city/countryside setting; as mentioned by others it might be getting a little stale. I think a core part of the Persona experience is Japanese high school life so I don't agree with suggestions for taking Persona out of Japan. However, something that hasn't quite been covered yet is a time jump. Right now a past setting may be too similar to the Raidou Kuzunoha games so maybe a future-based Persona would be better (?), and I mean considerably far into the future. How about when Nanako enters high school (:p)?

3. Have set party members with their own backstories as we do now, but be able to choose which to have as the MC, with the main story changing slightly based on which character is being played. Reason: Huge replay value, huge step forward in character development. This settles any gender/character choice issues...however it may not be a very likely inclusion considering the added effort required to tweak the main story and S.links according to which character is being chosen as the MC. Also, given Japanese developer preference towards scripted stories as opposed to an "open-world" style...

[Ike.]

does anyone else consider the irony of Rin's comments when his signature and avatar are centered around a transvestite

[Olethros]

Thank you. I've been dying to say that myself...

Also, could P5 have more furries please? Teddy was SSOOO not enough for me.

[Pibbman]

I think if you're gonna have a female MC, you better damn well add some homosexual relationships (female and female) :P.

[Ike.]

seriouspost

I'm not by any means opposed to homo relationships in games, but it's not something I like to see included just for the hell of it. Including the homosexual option wouldn't be what most of you seem to think it would in that it would mean you could finally consummate (hur hur) your fanfic fantasies where the Main Character, Yosuke and Kanji form an aggressively nude conga line into the bathhouse. It would mean writing twice for each same-sex character and trying to shoehorn in the gay "option" to date him (I'm just gonna assume a male MC for this post.)

It would involve making every male character straight for the purposes of the story with the potential to suddenly turn gay when you choose the right dialogue option. It requires a lot of really awkward writing, with each male character dropping subtle hints throughout the game in such a way that it would become absurd. Having a gay character is alright, as long as that character is established as being gay long before the option to date him even came up.

Imagine if an obviously heterosexual character like Yosuke suddenly decided to date your MC after a few dialogue choices, which would entail completely abandoning all of the relevant character development after that point. Yosuke's whole thing is that he's angry about the murder of the girl he had a crush on. It reeks of hackish slash fanfic writing.

Not to mention that it would require completely re-writing the story depending on who you date. It's a fact that people react differently to homosexual relationships than they do to heterosexual relationships. It would rob the relationship of its significance if it was just ignored by the rest of the world. So then what would the point of even having a homosexual relationship be? You may as well just have dated a girl character. It's like those breakfast commercials where the lily-white suburban family randomly has a black child come over and eat breakfast in order to be PC.

This is all the kind of thing that people take into consideration when trying to create a compelling story, and probably a large part of why we don't see a lot more homosexual relationships in games like P3 and 4. If you really, really want to see two same-sex characters from your favorite game get together, well... fanfiction.net is free to use, last I checked.

tl;dr: would prefer meaningful homosexual relationships to ridiculous cartoon wank material

[Ike.]

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[Iris]

This is one of my complaints about the social link system in general, actually. I don't feel like it really means crap when I can date every girl under the sun as is, especially not when I can then turn around and date another one as soon as I finish that link -- or even at the same time.

I'd rather a return to the IS way (one choice, feels like it actually means something), or hell, even back to not having dating options at all. If I really want to hook up with everything that moves, there's a wide world of actual datesims I can go play.

[Ike.]

That's true, but there is something to be said for not having to play the game 8 times to see every link.

[Kenji]

tl;dr: would prefer meaningful homosexual relationships to ridiculous cartoon wank material
This.

Snarky comments aside, I'm actually quite neutral about homosexual options. If they're there, cool, if not, also cool. All that matters to me is that they're well-done: I don't want to see American sitcom gay in my JRPG, especially when Persona's overriding strength has been its character-building.

In other words, if having a gay character and a gay relationship is only going to lead to a bunch of buttsecks jokes (and nothing else), I'd rather it just not be in there.

I'd rather a return to the IS way (one choice, feels like it actually means something)
This, as well.

As great as the awkwardness of having to deal with your multiple girlfriends (or your girlfriend's misunderstandings) was, I was disappointed in both P3 and P4 by how inconsequential my choice in girlfriend was. It destroys the illusion of school life and, through that, pulls me out of the game.

[Iris]

That's true, but there is something to be said for not having to play the game 8 times to see every link.

Which goes back to the part where I'd rather they stopped using the link system in the first place.

[Pibbman]

tl;dr: would prefer meaningful homosexual relationships to ridiculous cartoon wank material
This.

Snarky comments aside, I'm actually quite neutral about homosexual options. If they're there, cool, if not, also cool. All that matters to me is that they're well-done: I don't want to see American sitcom gay in my JRPG, especially when Persona's overriding strength has been its character-building.

In other words, if having a gay character and a gay relationship is only going to lead to a bunch of buttsecks jokes (and nothing else), I'd rather it just not be in there.

I'd rather a return to the IS way (one choice, feels like it actually means something)
This, as well.

As great as the awkwardness of having to deal with your multiple girlfriends (or your girlfriend's misunderstandings) was, I was disappointed in both P3 and P4 by how inconsequential my choice in girlfriend was. It destroys the illusion of school life and, through that, pulls me out of the game.

Illusion of school life? Man cheating and that crap was somewhat common back when I was in high school, it kinda make it seem more realistic.

However, I gotta agree with you. I understand what you're getting at, but at the same time what they have makes sense too. Not everyone practices monogamy either.

They could do something where if you start dating another girl, it gives you an option of breaking up with the other. As well as giving the more consequences in your actions, like if another link sees you cheating on them, they either never speak to you again (social link is done and unplayable anymore) or you lose a month or something on doing anything with the link.

[Souji_Seta]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .
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[Iris]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

Setting aside the fact that I find the term "creepy" to describe homosexuality to be incredibly offensive, I do feel compelled to point out:

The Persona series has, in the past, included plot elements such as serial killings (and the P2 ones were much more gruesome than the ones in P4, I should add), zombie Hitler, tentacle monsters, what could be interpreted as implied attempted rape (first murder scene in P4 - your mileage may vary), phallic imagery (not only Mara; Incubus deserves a mention here too, I think), multiple crucifixion scenes, teenagers shooting themselves in the head, drug abuse, underage smoking, attempted murder-suicide, actual suicide, transvestites (check out those folks running the gambling parlors in P1 ffs), killing deities, nudity, implied sex, plenty of innuendo, and I may have missed some things, but it's almost four in the morning and I'm tired.

(edit: for example, I already missed that Ginji Sasaki is a pedo.)

(That is in Persona games alone; I will not even start on Digital Devil Saga and its demon cannibal loli jesus.)

And Persona has, in fact, had homosexual dating options in the past, in Innocent Sin.

If the idea of a gay dating option in future games upsets you that badly, I think it might be time to rethink your gaming choices.

[Pibbman]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

Setting aside the fact that I find the term "creepy" to describe homosexuality to be incredibly offensive, I do feel compelled to point out:

The Persona series has, in the past, included plot elements such as serial killings (and the P2 ones were much more gruesome than the ones in P4, I should add), zombie Hitler, tentacle monsters, what could be interpreted as implied attempted rape (first murder scene in P4 - your mileage may vary), phallic imagery (not only Mara; Incubus deserves a mention here too, I think), multiple crucifixion scenes, teenagers shooting themselves in the head, drug abuse, underage smoking, attempted murder-suicide, actual suicide, transvestites (check out those folks running the gambling parlors in P1 ffs), killing deities, nudity, implied sex, plenty of innuendo, and I may have missed some things, but it's almost four in the morning and I'm tired.

(edit: for example, I already missed that Ginji Sasaki is a pedo.)

(That is in Persona games alone; I will not even start on Digital Devil Saga and its demon cannibal loli jesus.)

And Persona has, in fact, had homosexual dating options in the past, in Innocent Sin.

If the idea of a gay dating option in future games upsets you that badly, I think it might be time to rethink your gaming choices.

lol, I think you took his post a bit too seriously. Poster is 12yo, it's not surprising to see a response like that.

On that note, from what I understand the main reason behind Persona 2: IS not making it here is the nazi and homosexual option, however as far as I know it's just speculation. It could just be that Atlus USA could only afford to localize one of the two.

I'm currently playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin right now, and quite frankly nothing in it really phases me. It's surprising to think that P2: IS came out in 2000, and I think a lot of people were pretty open then.

Also other than Mara and Incubus, we can't forget about Arioch now too. He's suppose to be making a comeback in Devil Summoner: RK vs KA. I can't wait to have my demon partners on the field be both Mara and Arioch.

Anyways, I think a lot of the stuff in SMT has to do with humor, basically comedy relief. Something to sit there and remind you that it's a game, and to have fun.

[P4er2009]

MC 's died = Game over sucks
<-- Really true , i hate that , we could use the others to save him ..

It kinda make sense the way it is though, you're playing the game through the MCs "eyes".

More shota.

Oh God.

How bout putting extra costumes and MC can equip different types of weapons too.

And adding more place to explore is nice too.

Soo....sorta like P3? Seriously I MISS that so much. I loved having my female counterparts running around in skimpy armor, but I was really sad to see that taken out in P4. I sometimes wonder if it was because of Naoto.

In persona 5, in addition to the ideas mentions previously, I have two more simple suggestions.

That is...........

One....
I wish Persona 5 can allow the player to choose characters as MC from the start. The character of your choice can be male or femal.... Each character reflects unique perspective of the story.

Two....
I wish Persona 5 can enable mutiple cutscenes or endings based on each choice & action you've made. No more linear story development.

You should go to playmagazine.com and search Persona 4, they have 3 different interviews with the folks at Atlus Japan, and those exact those additions you had were addressed in those interviews.

Its a great read, but for those who are in interest of saving time. They said they have been asked by Japanese players to include an option about choosing genders. However, in the interest of keeping to budget they couldn't afford to do it. So in other words, it's gonna either be male or female. I wouldn't be surprised if P5 has a female though.

For your second one, it was basically the same as what I said before, its all about money and development time. In any case, I whole heartedly agree with those two because I'd love to see different perspectives.

But damn, they just need to bring back heart items and changeable costumes, and I'm pretty much happy. Also bringing back someone to do the item shop's "trading item for item" like Knights Card for Swords or weapons with ailments. I do wish P5 would have status ailments more heavily involved again.

The internet problems have kept preventing my coming to the forum. It seems to be settled down for now.

I haven't veiwed any single Atlus interview things. But I am honored that my ideas are just other people's thinkings. And I can understand Atlus have to take costs into serious considerations before it realizes the wishes of persona fans.

Just keeping anything good from persona 3 through persona 4 would be already good. I've a great fancy to fusion spells & changable apprerances as you've suggested. I hope persona 5 would keep these two elements.


By the way, I've viewed the cutsenes of persona 2. And I beileve it's still a working versions of persona series.

[Rin]

does anyone else consider the irony of Rin's comments when his signature and avatar are centered around a transvestite

Uhm... Well, maybe you all kinda... misunderstood me (in some parts), or maybe I'm the one who misunderstood you all... But well, I'm didn't hate homosexual options that bad... It's just that... I think this is as good as it is right now... I wouldn't have even thought of dating Naoto if she's really a boy... But, since she's a girl...

And having 1 girlfriend at a time sounded nice enough for me...

[Onion of Mystery]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.

[mometasone]

I wanna see Igor play a more active role in the story :) Guy's "supplying" all the MCs with game-winning personas. Would he be a "bad guy"? Would he seek to test a future MC? Or, given the varying moral choices in most SMT games, what if an "MC" decides to use his/her powers for evil and decides to kidnap Igor to unravel the secrets of the Velvet Room? Alternatively if not Igor then what about his assistants who seem to have their own agendas anyway? I think a good way to keep Persona fresh would be to really play around with the established traits.

Also, about the 1 girlfriend thing I think the consideration for people who don't wanna play the game multiple times to see each story is important. A solution that's not entirely realistic but serves as a simple fix could be: If the MC has more than one girlfriend during an S. Link event, an extra bout of dialogue could be shown with the girl mentioning rumours of MC's romantic exploits, concluding with dialogue choices which have the potential to turn the S. Link to reverse if the wrong response is chosen. The "right" choice may be tied to MC's status traits. i.e. MC has to have a high enough Expression or Courage to worm his way out or something.

Speaking of status traits (what are these things called, I actually don't know..) I'd like to see more considered application of the results of S. Link events. As in, if the MC is having a meal with a friend via an S. Link event at a place which could boost your stats, why don't the stats go up during the cut-scene? It happens sometimes...but not always and it's always baffling to see the characters doing something without having the "regular" effects of that activity being applied.

[Iris]

lol, I think you took his post a bit too seriously. Poster is 12yo, it's not surprising to see a response like that.


I was pretty okay with the concept of homosexuality when I was about that old. I would venture to say I'm not the only one.

So no, I don't find the insulting of an entire sexual orientation inoffensive when it comes from the mouth of someone younger.

And as Onion pointed out, they're rated M for a reason.

[Pibbman]

lol, I think you took his post a bit too seriously. Poster is 12yo, it's not surprising to see a response like that.


I was pretty okay with the concept of homosexuality when I was about that old. I would venture to say I'm not the only one.

So no, I don't find the insulting of an entire sexual orientation inoffensive when it comes from the mouth of someone younger.

And as Onion pointed out, they're rated M for a reason.

Maybe so, but not everyone is you now right? :P I do agree about the game being rated M though.

[Iris]

Okay, so would my being offended still be so unreasonable if we replaced homosexuals with another minority group?

Just wondering.

[Pibbman]

Okay, so would my being offended still be so unreasonable if we replaced homosexuals with another minority group?

Just wondering.

No, my point is that you're being offended by a 12yo that still has a growing to do, it's going to happen in this part of their life while they grasp a better understanding of things. It was never my intention to start some big deal about homosexual/minority groups, nor was I even leaning that way and I'm not gonna bother going that route either because it's not gonna lead anywhere good.

Back on topic, I think it would be interesting to put more routes in. However, that would just end up costing more development time and money. But more seriously, I'd like to see more relationship stuff BEFORE the max social linking. I want to see how relationships expand after they get to together.

[Ike.]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.

Can you explain why Satan has six breasts?

[Onion of Mystery]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.

Can you explain why Satan has six breasts?

To confuse you?
I can't explain why kids like Cinnamon Toast Crunch, either.

[Christhor]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.

Well it's rated 16+ here in Norway atleast. :p

But I do agree, there is nothing creepy about being gay or anything. As long as the character actually IS gay it, TBH I was trying to make Kanji my lover just for giggles. I wouldn't mind having a couple of gay lovers in the games.

One thing I'd like in the next Persona, is that the skills (Knowledge, Courage, etc.) would have a bigger importance. I just felt that even though I had my Understanding at full it did nothing at all...

[SickleCellAnemia]

Can you explain why Satan has six breasts?

To confuse you?
I can't explain why kids like Cinnamon Toast Crunch, either.
Because it's the taste you can see!

[Olethros]

^ That should be your new catch phrase Sickle!

SickleCellAnemia - The taste you can see!

[Fatney]

I agree on the fact that homosexuality could be stupid, like if Junpei suddenly turned gay despite his affections towards women. But it would be cool/funny if you could date Kanji after the Double Date Café event or something. If you chose the "gayest" answers there, Kanji would confront you later and be like "Did any of that... mean anything? http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/Patney6/red_smile.gifhttp://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/Patney6/red_smile.gif"

And then Kanji was the lovers arcana.

Gay people aren't as common as straight people, so about one dateable male social link would be good.

[SickleCellAnemia]

^ That should be your new catch phrase Sickle!

SickleCellAnemia - The taste you can see!

LOL Captain, I'll give it some serious consideration.:p

[Pibbman]

How about adding a "casino" again, like in Persona 2: IS. Man I loved playing blackjack to get money, to trade for prizes like items needed to summon a certain persona.

[Crimson Cloud]

Well I guess to contain all the greatness as in previous title, then an option to call your friends with a cell phone and ask if they want to hang out. I would like to see your characters gaining ability to use magic not just the attack, but of course their magic would be a lot weaker then the ones from persona.

And most of all, I wish that there are real multiple endings, like get an ending with a girl if you maxed her out with some additional options. As for the rest, I trust Atlus :D

[Rin]

I agree on the fact that homosexuality could be stupid, like if Junpei suddenly turned gay despite his affections towards women. But it would be cool/funny if you could date Kanji after the Double Date Café event or something. If you chose the "gayest" answers there, Kanji would confront you later and be like "Did any of that... mean anything? http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/Patney6/red_smile.gifhttp://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u340/Patney6/red_smile.gif"

And then Kanji was the lovers arcana.

Gay people aren't as common as straight people, so about one dateable male social link would be good.

That would be like Persona 2, I think... Jun? Isn't it?

But well, I'm not really used to those kinda things, maybe one of the factors is that my country didn't allow those things, so, maybe it's been rooted all over in my head, but well, I'm not really against it though, but I think it's all up to Atlus now... Sorry to everyone who ever found that my previous post was offensive, I really didn't mean to... :)

[Kenji]

The Atlus forums go down for a few days and I get really far behind...

Illusion of school life? Man cheating and that crap was somewhat common back when I was in high school, it kinda make it seem more realistic.

However, I gotta agree with you. I understand what you're getting at, but at the same time what they have makes sense too. Not everyone practices monogamy either.
I didn't mean that with respect to the man-whoring, I meant "destroying the illusion" in terms of the choice of girlfriend being inconsequential. High school kids all but show off their boyfriends/girlfriends like trophies, what with the constant hand-holding, kissing, petting, etc.

I know that Japanese culture lends itself to being more discreet, but there's no way that having a girlfriend (or eight) will be completely inconsequential to your relationships with fellow students. That's what I meant.

[P4er2009]

The Atlus forums go down for a few days and I get really far behind...

Illusion of school life? Man cheating and that crap was somewhat common back when I was in high school, it kinda make it seem more realistic.

However, I gotta agree with you. I understand what you're getting at, but at the same time what they have makes sense too. Not everyone practices monogamy either.
I didn't mean that with respect to the man-whoring, I meant "destroying the illusion" in terms of the choice of girlfriend being inconsequential. High school kids all but show off their boyfriends/girlfriends like trophies, what with the constant hand-holding, kissing, petting, etc.

I know that Japanese culture lends itself to being more discreet, but there's no way that having a girlfriend (or eight) will be completely inconsequential to your relationships with fellow students. That's what I meant.


I agree that part that having a girlfriend should greatly affect your relatonships with others, as well as other people's opinions on you. Once you had a girlfriend/boyfriend, the rumors surrending you should rationally spread and your interation with your girlfriend/boyfriend should be even more intimate than others. That just makes senses.

In persona 4, having a girlfriend is something that none would notice and care as if nothing has really happened. I am sick of having a secret love in persona 4; it sounds rather unreal to just a girlfriend.

As I recalled in persona 3 fes, MC was summoned by Jupei to the roof for a private talk. Jepei knows something about MC's relationship with Fuuka, and wants MC to treat her well. I think that is a good point but it is not enough.

I hope in persona 5, there would be interations with lovers. And they can do hand-holding, kissing, or romantic talks in the public just like an ordinary high school student would do.

[Iris]

No, my point is that you're being offended by a 12yo that still has a growing to do, it's going to happen in this part of their life while they grasp a better understanding of things. It was never my intention to start some big deal about homosexual/minority groups, nor was I even leaning that way and I'm not gonna bother going that route either because it's not gonna lead anywhere good.

And nobody learns that what they're saying might be offensive and hurtful if it is not pointed out as such.

I did fly off the handle a bit more strongly than I meant to, and I do apologize for that. I'm not going to write an essay here on how society perpetuates a lot of negative crap by projecting the attitude that it's okay to say it, but while my wording of it was perhaps a little more harsh than was called for, it was offensive. More because of societal norms and attitudes than because of the poster himself? You betcha. But still offensive.

I am sorry for how I said it. And I am sorry for bringing that up again like a page and a half later when the topic's moved on, but I was at work for twelve hours. sob.

ON TOPIC NOW SORRY. orz

Looking at the romantic social links, I think what really annoyed me is that you could date every. single. girl. Being able to choose between a romantic or a platonic path was an improvement over P3, yeah (don't even get me started on the EVERY GIRL IS A GIRLFRIEND crap), but if you went romantic, they inevitably fell for your charms as long as you weren't a dick about it. I know Souji's a stud, but come on.

I really would've loved to see a link where you can do everything completely right and the girl still won't go out with you. Because she's already in a committed relationship, or she doesn't swing that way, or she just doesn't care and doesn't want to date, or she's married to the sea or she just really hates your aftershave. Anything.

I want to see some rejection in the house, man.

Or at the very least, I'd like some of the romantic/platonic dividing points to be a little less stupid than a choice between standing there like an insensitive jerk, or comforting a crying girl and suddenly finding yourself on a one-way trip out of Singlesville. Can't there be some middle ground?

[Crimson Cloud]

:agree: With people above that stated changes in the relationship to effect your party. I mean really it's just like having nothing at all and if you were with some of the girls in your party it felt like you were dreaming. I know it's hard to make it for multiple girls because that would result a lot of different dialogues but making it towards the end at least would be a satisfaction.

[P4er2009]

:agree: With people above that stated changes in the relationship to effect your party. I mean really it's just like having nothing at all and if you were with some of the girls in your party it felt like you were dreaming. I know it's hard to make it for multiple girls because that would result a lot of different dialogues but making it towards the end at least would be a satisfaction.

Yeah, I agree. Instead of having mutimple girlfriends without intimate interactions nor romance rumors, I prefer to have just one girlfriend that is really close to MC and everyone knows about.

In addition, persona 5 can incorproate multiple endings & events based up which girlfriend MC chooses. Once your lover is decided, the story surrounding MC and his lover will go on to the end. And social link of your lover would be distinguished from the other ones in that it will affect endings. The points gained from MC's dating or romantic scenes would deicde the final ending of love.

I suggest in persona 5, each choice you've made would matter greatly.

[Vicious1915]

Oh come on , if there's "homosexual" thing .. then i couldn't play it anymore , i'm just 12yrs ;_; And that's kinda ... creepy .

Setting aside the fact that I find the term "creepy" to describe homosexuality to be incredibly offensive, I do feel compelled to point out:

The Persona series has, in the past, included plot elements such as serial killings (and the P2 ones were much more gruesome than the ones in P4, I should add), zombie Hitler, tentacle monsters, what could be interpreted as implied attempted rape (first murder scene in P4 - your mileage may vary), phallic imagery (not only Mara; Incubus deserves a mention here too, I think), multiple crucifixion scenes, teenagers shooting themselves in the head, drug abuse, underage smoking, attempted murder-suicide, actual suicide, transvestites (check out those folks running the gambling parlors in P1 ffs), killing deities, nudity, implied sex, plenty of innuendo, and I may have missed some things, but it's almost four in the morning and I'm tired.

(edit: for example, I already missed that Ginji Sasaki is a pedo.)

(That is in Persona games alone; I will not even start on Digital Devil Saga and its demon cannibal loli jesus.)

And Persona has, in fact, had homosexual dating options in the past, in Innocent Sin.

If the idea of a gay dating option in future games upsets you that badly, I think it might be time to rethink your gaming choices.


Agreed, agreed, and MORE agreed. Also, last I checked, these games are rated M. M= Mature. 12 years old = Not old enough to play M-rated games.

I have to just say that I pretty much agree with Iris' take on things. Mitsuru was my favorite character in Persona 3, aside from Akihiko. I wanted to be her BEST FRIEND, not her BOYFRIEND. Aside from that, I hated Yukari for the most part, and I love the Lovers Arcana. Having to "date" her just to raise the S. Link made me sick. Doing away with social links in general sounds like the best idea yet. Inclusion of a homosexual character, IF there are dating options, or taking the "love" aspect out of the game entirely sounds best to me. I hate love stories in my RPGs anyway (Squall and Rinoa, Tidus and Yuna, RUINED FF 8 and 10 for me).

[Fatney]

Final Fantasy can't do love stories any good at all. But in P3/P4: FEELS GOOD MAN

[Vicious1915]

It doesn't matter who does them, I just think they're lame. When saving the world, who REALLY has time to fall in love...?

[Lauro]

good point, but you have to see that they didn´t usually were like " we have to save the world!" they were, we saved them! good job, now lets relax, and then there was another one threw on the TV, so... they have lifes more than saving the world D:

what i like in all persona games that we can build the MC's Personality.

lol, just came into my mind, being able to have a MC that we can change his hair or something, but it would be lame to change all scenes to match with his hair... so nah D:

[Iris]

I kind of miss just saving the world without daily life, really. A couple games of messing with the school sim was fun, but I was glad to finish high school. How many times do I need to do it again to get my gaming fix? XD

[Souji_Seta]

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.[/QUOTE]

I'm not thinking that the character is gay , what i meant to say is , persona 4 don't have lots of "sexual imagery" , is very rare . But if atlus add the "homosexual" thing , the game might be "stupid" [ i can't find a right word , sorry ] and lost fans [ of course male gamer will increase ._." , but i didn't count it ]
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[Souji_Seta]

But well, I'm not really used to those kinda things, maybe one of the factors is that my country didn't allow those things, so, maybe it's been rooted all over in my head, but well, I'm not really against it though, but I think it's all up to Atlus now... Sorry to everyone who ever found that my previous post was offensive, I really didn't mean to... :)


you're right . My country never cares about games but some country is very hard about it .
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[Iris]

persona 4 don't have lots of "sexual imagery" , is very rare .

D-did we play the same game?

The fact that nobody's flashing the camera every two seconds doesn't change the fact that there's quite a bit of innuendo and a lot of sexual themes in there. And as for actual imagery...Mara and Incubus are pretty phallic, and some of the shadow fights -- Rise is the one who really comes to mind here, though Kanji is also up there, and Chie's dominatrix-shadow isn't exactly innocent, either.

But if atlus add the "homosexual" thing , the game might be "stupid"

If you're calling P2 stupid, them's fighting words. :(

-- joking, but setting that aside: the thing is you keep saying if they add this it's bad, if they add this it's bad, but it's something they've already done, and it didn't hurt the game in the least, and it was pretty easily avoided. Don't want to date a guy? Don't choose the guy! Problem solved.

[Pibbman]

They're rated M for a reason. I'm trying hard to keep from being "the adult talking down to the youngin's about serious business," but the fact of the matter is that there is material in the game that is expressly not for kids. Given the amount of murders, sociopaths, sexual imagery, risque humor, and cursing in the game... If you feel that the worst thing among all that is that a character might be gay, I'm really disappointed.

I'm not thinking that the character is gay , what i meant to say is , persona 4 don't have lots of "sexual imagery" , is very rare . But if atlus add the "homosexual" thing , the game might be "stupid" [ i can't find a right word , sorry ] and lost fans [ of course male gamer will increase ._." ]

I doubt the franchise would lose any gamers over such an issue. If you were to ask me, most RPG players I know are very open people, they would just consider such a thing as another aspect of the game. We're not talking about hardcore making out, and scenes of loud moaning or anything here. The most I've ever seen, as actually seeing the character do it on screen, in a Persona game was a hug.

Best part about RPGs is the fact that you choose the course of how the game is going to go by choices, and like others said I don't think Altus would randomly pop out and force anything on you.

It'd be sad if someone were to stop buying a game just because of a gay option.

[Souji_Seta]

Best part about RPGs is the fact that you choose the course of how the game is going to go by choices, and like others said I don't think Altus would randomly pop out and force anything on you.

It'd be sad if someone were to stop buying a game just because of a gay option.
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Yeah , that's the best . Some choice just for fun , but some choice are important [ like the cutscene at aiya chinese when you chose who is the culprit ] Atlus doesn't warning about this , of course i know the culprit was Adachi , but i want to see what's everyone reaction so i chose 3 different person , and then it turns out that bad ending ...

And now i'm playing the new game + ... Boring ~ ! :very_sad:

And yeah , that'd be sad .
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[Rin]

Best part about RPGs is the fact that you choose the course of how the game is going to go by choices, and like others said I don't think Altus would randomly pop out and force anything on you.

It'd be sad if someone were to stop buying a game just because of a gay option.
~ ! A little Spoiler ! ~
Yeah , that's the best . Some choice just for fun , but some choice are important [ like the cutscene at aiya chinese when you chose who is the culprit ] Atlus doesn't warning about this , of course i know the culprit was Adachi , but i want to see what's everyone reaction so i chose 3 different person , and then it turns out that bad ending ...

And now i'm playing the new game + ... Boring ~ ! :very_sad:

And yeah , that'd be sad .

I think we're just a bit surprised about the homosexual idea... I know they've did that in P2, it's just that the first time I read this, I get the concept of being able to have homosexual relationship with all the boys (the party members and I mean all, except kids or a wifed man)... In P2, its only one guy... One didn't really matter to me, but if its all of them... I would've been pretty shocked...:o

[Souji_Seta]

persona 4 don't have lots of "sexual imagery" , is very rare .

D-did we play the same game?

The fact that nobody's flashing the camera every two seconds doesn't change the fact that there's quite a bit of innuendo and a lot of sexual themes in there. And as for actual imagery...Mara and Incubus are pretty phallic, and some of the shadow fights -- Rise is the one who really comes to mind here, though Kanji is also up there, and Chie's dominatrix-shadow isn't exactly innocent, either.


I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere [ didn't count rise dungeon ]
Aw .. i should stop talking about this thing ... It sounds like i'm a perp .. :D
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[Souji_Seta]

I think we're just a bit surprized about the homosexual idea... I know they've did that in P2, it's just that the first time I read this, I get the concept of being able to have homosexual relationship with all the boys (the party members and I mean all, except kids or a wifed man)... In P2, its only one guy... One didn't really matter to me, but if its all of them... I would've been pretty shocked...:o

Man ... same here , i don't know everything about persona or atlus until i saw this game on magazines ... How stupid am i ....:very_sad::very_sad: Hope there'd a persona 15 xD

A LITTLE OFF TOPIC :
4 Rin : About naoto , i think i saw her earring sometimes when i'm in heaven dungeon

Oh come on ......... 12yo in my country is not a kid anymore you know .. !? [almost mature xD ]
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[Rin]

I think we're just a bit surprized about the homosexual idea... I know they've did that in P2, it's just that the first time I read this, I get the concept of being able to have homosexual relationship with all the boys (the party members and I mean all, except kids or a wifed man)... In P2, its only one guy... One didn't really matter to me, but if its all of them... I would've been pretty shocked...:o

Man ... same here , i don't know everything about persona or atlus until i saw this game on magazines ... How stupid am i ....:very_sad::very_sad: Hope there'd a persona 15 xD

A LITTLE OFF TOPIC :
4 Rin : About naoto , i think i saw her earring sometimes when i'm in heaven dungeon

Well, I've known Atlus for quite a while... Persona 15?? That's a whole bunch of series... I wonder how old we'll be if that really happened...:tongue: I don't think I can still play video games...:). Well, I believe in Atlus, they'll make the best out of it...

Off Topic: Really?? I thought that I've ever saw her with the earrings, but when I look for the image now, I've never found any... Feels weird for me... But, well, its not like it is very important anyway... Just plain curiosity...

[Souji_Seta]

Well, I've known Atlus for quite a while... Persona 15?? That's a whole bunch of series... I wonder how old we'll be if that really happened...:tongue: I don't think I can still play video games...:). Well, I believe in Atlus, they'll make the best out of it...

Off Topic: Really?? I thought that I've ever saw her with the earrings, but when I look for the image now, I've never found any... Feels weird for me... But, well, its not like it is very important anyway... Just plain curiosity...

Well , just look at final fantasy , and i think atlus can do that , they're the best :D .

Off topic : I remember something very small and white on her ears but it's not important , pass :D
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[The_Other_Self]

Hmm... I don't know id I'd be able to play the next persona game if it was relesed on PS3 (Though it would look pretty damn awesome) The Ps3 is just too expensive.

Well, I might as well save up, just in case~

[Pibbman]

Hmm... I don't know id I'd be able to play the next persona game if it was relesed on PS3 (Though it would look pretty damn awesome) The Ps3 is just too expensive.

Well, I might as well save up, just in case~

It's worth it man, plus the price of the system can only go down in time.

[The_Other_Self]

Yeah it's pretty sweet. My sister has one and it's pretty awesome. (I've only played Soul Calibur on it, i dont get round to her place much)

But I'm Soo gonna save up~

[Vicious1915]

With Final Fantasy XIII being released on the 360, that only leaves Disgaea 3 for me to play on a PS3. I want one....but I want to play it... Are there any RPGs I don't know about on the PS3? Also, has the fully backwards compatible one been released? I only want the system if there are RPGs I'll like for it, and if it can replace my Playstation 2.

[Iris]

I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere

Rise's dungeon is a strip club.
Rise's shadow repeatedly offers to take it all off and then basically does a naked pole dance with extremely suggestive noises when you fight her.
Kanji's shadow runs around mostly naked and speaks with a gay lisp about "penetrating the facilities."
Chie's shadow is a dominatrix.
Incubus has a giant dong.
Mara is a giant dong.

I'm not sure if I'm missed any other examples of actual imagery, as I haven't played that much since the month the game came out, but this would get a lot longer if we also went for simple references to anything sexual, like the nurse's advances on you, or Hanako's "c'mere tiger" routine.

[Fatney]

I think Satan's six boobs are really sexual.

[Vicious1915]

I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere

Rise's dungeon is a strip club.
Rise's shadow repeatedly offers to take it all off and then basically does a naked pole dance with extremely suggestive noises when you fight her.
Kanji's shadow runs around mostly naked and speaks with a gay lisp about "penetrating the facilities."
Chie's shadow is a dominatrix.
Incubus has a giant dong.
Mara is a giant dong.

I'm not sure if I'm missed any other examples of actual imagery, as I haven't played that much since the month the game came out, but this would get a lot longer if we also went for simple references to anything sexual, like the nurse's advances on you, or Hanako's "c'mere tiger" routine.

Is...Kanji.....gay?

[Kenji]

Is...Kanji.....gay?
Well, what do you think? You did play the game, right? :P

[Pibbman]

It's a shame they don't have Arioch in Persona, I haven't seen him in 3/4, and nothing yet so far in my Persona 2 playthrough.

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/156850/raidou2_p035.jpg

However, the good news is that he'll be appearing in Devil Summoner 2. I hear Arioch is good friends with Mara though.

[Kenji]

So... Mara + Arioch = The Sanctity of Marriage? :D

[Pibbman]

So... Mara + Arioch = The Sanctity of Marriage? :D

That'd be an awesome fusion spell. :X

[Vicious1915]

Is...Kanji.....gay?
Well, what do you think? You did play the game, right? :P

No, I haven't. In fact, I just finally made it to January 1 in Persona 3 (original version). I skip around a lot, especially with new stuff coming out all the time...

I just wanna know....is he? IS HE? That would be super exciting, and pretty disappointing all at the same time, since I hear he's not a dating option...

[Kenji]

No, I haven't. In fact, I just finally made it to January 1 in Persona 3 (original version). I skip around a lot, especially with new stuff coming out all the time...

I just wanna know....is he? IS HE? That would be super exciting, and pretty disappointing all at the same time, since I hear he's not a dating option...
Oh, you're serious. Well, in that case, I'll be, too. :P

If I recall correctly, in Asian cultures (unlike the West), homosexuality is seen as something you do, not who you are. So, the only answer I can honestly give is a solid "maybe."

It's something you need to come to your own conclusion on.

[Pibbman]

Is...Kanji.....gay?
Well, what do you think? You did play the game, right? :P

No, I haven't. In fact, I just finally made it to January 1 in Persona 3 (original version). I skip around a lot, especially with new stuff coming out all the time...

I just wanna know....is he? IS HE? That would be super exciting, and pretty disappointing all at the same time, since I hear he's not a dating option...

You'll have to play the game to find out. :P

[Vicious1915]

No, I haven't. In fact, I just finally made it to January 1 in Persona 3 (original version). I skip around a lot, especially with new stuff coming out all the time...

I just wanna know....is he? IS HE? That would be super exciting, and pretty disappointing all at the same time, since I hear he's not a dating option...
Oh, you're serious. Well, in that case, I'll be, too. :P

If I recall correctly, in Asian cultures (unlike the West), homosexuality is seen as something you do, not who you are. So, the only answer I can honestly give is a solid "maybe."

It's something you need to come to your own conclusion on.

Is...Kanji.....gay?
Well, what do you think? You did play the game, right? :P

No, I haven't. In fact, I just finally made it to January 1 in Persona 3 (original version). I skip around a lot, especially with new stuff coming out all the time...

I just wanna know....is he? IS HE? That would be super exciting, and pretty disappointing all at the same time, since I hear he's not a dating option...

You'll have to play the game to find out. :P

Understood; However, I never knew that about Asian cultures. I don't want to dislodge the thread, but I don't understand "what you do vs. who you are."
Would you message me a clarification on whether it's seen as a choice or a natural inclination?

>>ON TOPIC

I'd like to see a return to fighting demons in Persona 5. I'd also like to see a return of the contact system. I don't mean as a way of gaining Personas (Personae?) specifically. I just like to halt the tedium of battle for a little demon convo. An even bigger, bolder step would be to merge aspects of Shin Megami Tensei (main series) with the Persona series ~ a la arm terminal comps. =)

[Big Bob]

I'd really like the Persona games to have more minigames. Fishing is the only one I can think off off-hand. Maybe a DDR-ripoff at a karaoke bar? A little minigame where you play basketball or soccer on the days when you don't increase the social link? Amusing dialogue trees when dating? Stuff like that.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere

Rise's dungeon is a strip club.
Rise's shadow repeatedly offers to take it all off and then basically does a naked pole dance with extremely suggestive noises when you fight her.
Kanji's shadow runs around mostly naked and speaks with a gay lisp about "penetrating the facilities."
Chie's shadow is a dominatrix.
Incubus has a giant dong.
Mara is a giant dong.

I'm not sure if I'm missed any other examples of actual imagery, as I haven't played that much since the month the game came out, but this would get a lot longer if we also went for simple references to anything sexual, like the nurse's advances on you, or Hanako's "c'mere tiger" routine.

Don't forget heavily implied Christmas sex!

@Big Bob: Minigames? Really? I wish there were less of them in the industry in general.

[Pibbman]

I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere

Rise's dungeon is a strip club.
Rise's shadow repeatedly offers to take it all off and then basically does a naked pole dance with extremely suggestive noises when you fight her.
Kanji's shadow runs around mostly naked and speaks with a gay lisp about "penetrating the facilities."
Chie's shadow is a dominatrix.
Incubus has a giant dong.
Mara is a giant dong.

I'm not sure if I'm missed any other examples of actual imagery, as I haven't played that much since the month the game came out, but this would get a lot longer if we also went for simple references to anything sexual, like the nurse's advances on you, or Hanako's "c'mere tiger" routine.

Don't forget heavily implied Christmas sex!

@Big Bob: Minigames? Really? I wish there were less of them in the industry in general.

Yeah but the ones like Mu Continent had in Persona 2 were really fun, playing Bingo, Blackjack, etc to gain enough coins for prizes is a nice change of pace at times.

[Souji_Seta]

I don't know , if you see some "sexual imagery" , tell me , coz i can't see it anywhere

Rise's dungeon is a strip club.
Rise's shadow repeatedly offers to take it all off and then basically does a naked pole dance with extremely suggestive noises when you fight her.
Kanji's shadow runs around mostly naked and speaks with a gay lisp about "penetrating the facilities."
Chie's shadow is a dominatrix.
Incubus has a giant dong.
Mara is a giant dong.

I'm not sure if I'm missed any other examples of actual imagery, as I haven't played that much since the month the game came out, but this would get a lot longer if we also went for simple references to anything sexual, like the nurse's advances on you, or Hanako's "c'mere tiger" routine.

Ah..
I don't think it could be the "sexual imagery" , for me , it's pretty normal .....
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[Souji_Seta]

Understood; However, I never knew that about Asian cultures.


Eh ? I'm asian but my country doesn't have that many cultures .. Man , i'm so gonna move to Japan ... it has so many days off :D
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[Iris]

I don't think it could be the "sexual imagery" , for me , it's pretty normal .....

...maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, because I am seriously confused about how you can consider all the aforementioned sexual imagery to be pretty normal, but find the possibility of including a gay dating option to be "creepy." \o_O/

I'd like to see a return to fighting demons in Persona 5. I'd also like to see a return of the contact system. I don't mean as a way of gaining Personas (Personae?) specifically. I just like to halt the tedium of battle for a little demon convo.

MFY. Contacts aren't just about getting stuff for fusion, they're also usually a big part of my resource management strategies. I like having options other than "nuke everything in my path."

Specifically, I'd really like to see a contact system somewhere in between P1 and IS. Four options per person, plus the potential for group contacts a la IS, but I like P1's way of doing the little map of what emotions you were hitting, and some reactions would crank it up higher than others -- it felt a little more smooth than simple HIT IT THREE TIMES AND BANG! YOU'RE DONE.

And also, hilariously, I think I somehow neglected to mention this earlier in the thread (wtf, self). My single greatest wish for Persona 5: let everyone change Personae again. I immensely, immensely prefer having the greater level of control and customization in my party, and one of my favorite things about P2 was how the spell fusion rewarded you for building a party that wasn't just made of individually strong Personae, but Personae that had complementary abilities and worked well together.

Besides the fact that I like it better for gameplay, the ability to change Personae has always felt, to me, much better suited to the original theme of the series -- that we all wear many masks, and that we all have different facets of ourselves that we display according to the situation at hand.

[Souji_Seta]

If i keep talking like this i'm gonna become a perp ..
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[Saburo Hikari]

With Final Fantasy XIII being released on the 360, that only leaves Disgaea 3 for me to play on a PS3. I want one....but I want to play it... Are there any RPGs I don't know about on the PS3? Also, has the fully backwards compatible one been released? I only want the system if there are RPGs I'll like for it, and if it can replace my Playstation 2.You're forgetting the super special fudge chocolate coated awesomeness that is Valkyria Chronicles and the Tales of Vesperia PS3 director's edit.

There's plenty of other reasons to get a PS3. But that's for "Why you should get a PS3" topics.

And now I'm getting off topic.

Anyway, more mini games sound like fun. Actually playing the games in Persona 3's Paulonia Mall arcade would've been fun.

[Pibbman]

With Final Fantasy XIII being released on the 360, that only leaves Disgaea 3 for me to play on a PS3. I want one....but I want to play it... Are there any RPGs I don't know about on the PS3? Also, has the fully backwards compatible one been released? I only want the system if there are RPGs I'll like for it, and if it can replace my Playstation 2.You're forgetting the super special fudge chocolate coated awesomeness that is Valkyria Chronicles and the Tales of Vesperia PS3 director's edit.

There's plenty of other reasons to get a PS3. But that's for "Why you should get a PS3" topics.

And now I'm getting off topic.

Anyway, more mini games sound like fun. Actually playing the games in Persona 3's Paulonia Mall arcade would've been fun.

That's a good point you bring up. Make it even more interesting by having your "score" in the mini-game affect your stats. For example, I remember there was a game that affected your courage in P3, what if you play the game and depending on your score you get so much of courage.

Definitely one of the best ideas I've seen so far in this thread.

[Souji_Seta]

^ Yeah , since there is not many things to do when rain , maybe a mini game could be enjoyable .
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[Vicious1915]

[QUOTE=Saburo Hikari;113135] You're forgetting the super special fudge chocolate coated awesomeness that is Valkyria Chronicles and the Tales of Vesperia PS3 director's edit.

There's plenty of other reasons to get a PS3. But that's for "Why you should get a PS3" topics.

And now I'm getting off topic.
QUOTE]

Ok....but is there a fully backwards compatible system available? It has to be capable of replacing my PS2 ~ otherwise the game selection alone isn't worth buying it.

[Fenix747]

More Yukiko xD sorry normally I'd have real ideas but its the morning sorry

[Rin]

Since there is not many things to do when it rain, maybe a mini game could be enjoyable.

Yeah, but I don't think P5 will have the same system as weather or moon phase like the ones in P3 or P4...



Mara is a giant dong.



Wh-whoa... Now that you mentioned it... I've just realised that it really looked like... a dong... *sweatdropped*

I'd never realised that until now...:surprise:

[Fatney]

Mara is a giant dong.



Wh-whoa... Now that you mentioned it... I've just realised that it really looked like... a dong... *sweatdropped*

I'd never realised that until now...:surprise:

Seriously? You must have a pure mind. It's not even subtle, it's basically a penis on a chariot, and it's supposed to be so.

[Pibbman]

[QUOTE=Saburo Hikari;113135] You're forgetting the super special fudge chocolate coated awesomeness that is Valkyria Chronicles and the Tales of Vesperia PS3 director's edit.

There's plenty of other reasons to get a PS3. But that's for "Why you should get a PS3" topics.

And now I'm getting off topic.
QUOTE]

Ok....but is there a fully backwards compatible system available? It has to be capable of replacing my PS2 ~ otherwise the game selection alone isn't worth buying it.

Well, the 60GB version is 96% compatible, since it has the emotion chip in it, which is basically a PS2. Sony has a website you can use to check compatibility of your games, so you could check that out with your PS2 collection. The more common 80GB has around 85% compatibility.

Keep in mind, if you want the 60GB version, you're gonna have to shell out a lot of money (more so than a new one) for a used one since they aren't made anymore. I paid 450 for my used 60GB, and it still runs like a champ to this day. I saved up money for it, it took a while but I eventually got it.

Anyways, seeing as there is barely any PS2 titles coming out anymore, and I believe after Devil Summoner 2 comes out by Atlus, Atlus will most likely be done with PS2 titles. Especially since their latest e-mail hinted at the game being the "PS2s swansong". You could just check your existing collection with the checker to find out. Mainstream titles are pretty much for sure going to work, you just gotta keep an eye on the more niche titles.

[Souji_Seta]

I haven't decide to buy any console , if Persona 5 releases on PS3 , then im gonna buy it . Man , i'm totally in love with Persona series xD
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[Pibbman]

Since there is not many things to do when it rain, maybe a mini game could be enjoyable.

Yeah, but I don't think P5 will have the same system as weather or moon phase like the ones in P3 or P4...



Mara is a giant dong.



Wh-whoa... Now that you mentioned it... I've just realised that it really looked like... a dong... *sweatdropped*

I'd never realised that until now...:surprise:

I'm pretty sure it will have such a system. Something like the moon phase or similar has always been an integral part of the game. Far as I know, it's found in almost every SMT game. Now, I know persona 2: IS (cant speak for EP) doesnt have such a system, but its one of those few form SMT that I have seen it without.

[Souji_Seta]

But maybe persona 5 don't have the storyline like P4 and P3 , if so , the forecast , moon phase could be disable

Anyways , i think atlus should change the storyline . The stuff "watch Midnight Channel and go save the people " just keep repeat mades me boring ~ ...
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[Pibbman]

But maybe persona 5 don't have the storyline like P4 and P3 , if so , the forecast , moon phase could be disable

Anyways , i think atlus should change the storyline . The stuff "watch Midnight Channel and go save the people " just keep repeat mades me boring ~ ...

Now that you mention it, I never really realized that. I mean I don't really have a problem with the way it was in P3/P4, but after playing P2: IS, and seeing how the story keeps having changes/twists and it's not something like "save them before the end of the month", it's definitely a bit more interesting and unpredictable.

It'd be nice to see Atlus do Persona 5 a little shaken up again, and not so much "do this before the month ends" deal, but rather a story that constantly evolves and has real plot twists.

In any case, I think whenever P5 comes out, they will most likely really shake things up again, and it probably will set itself apart from P3/P4. Atlus is definitely one of the few that constantly tries new things.

[Rin]

I'm pretty sure it will have such a system. Something like the moon phase or similar has always been an integral part of the game. Far as I know, it's found in almost every SMT game. Now, I know persona 2: IS (cant speak for EP) doesnt have such a system, but its one of those few form SMT that I have seen it without.

Oh, what I mean is that it'll not have the exact system twice... Since Souji Seta was talking about rainy days... I don't think they'll use the weather system again... Maybe a similar system would work...

You must've had a pure mind

Its not that I have a pure mind, its just that I didn't really give much thought to those... I'm too lazy to think about that:tongue:, too busy to pay attention to the storyline...

[Souji_Seta]

But maybe persona 5 don't have the storyline like P4 and P3 , if so , the forecast , moon phase could be disable

Anyways , i think atlus should change the storyline . The stuff "watch Midnight Channel and go save the people " just keep repeat mades me boring ~ ...

Now that you mention it, I never really realized that. I mean I don't really have a problem with the way it was in P3/P4, but after playing P2: IS, and seeing how the story keeps having changes/twists and it's not something like "save them before the end of the month", it's definitely a bit more interesting and unpredictable.

It'd be nice to see Atlus do Persona 5 a little shaken up again, and not so much "do this before the month ends" deal, but rather a story that constantly evolves and has real plot twists.

In any case, I think whenever P5 comes out, they will most likely really shake things up again, and it probably will set itself apart from P3/P4. Atlus is definitely one of the few that constantly tries new things.


It really should be .Atlus should made a big improve in Persona 5 , 'course they'll change to the next gen console ,it sure will lost lots of fans , so atlus should mades something to draw the gamers attraction
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[Pibbman]

But maybe persona 5 don't have the storyline like P4 and P3 , if so , the forecast , moon phase could be disable

Anyways , i think atlus should change the storyline . The stuff "watch Midnight Channel and go save the people " just keep repeat mades me boring ~ ...

Now that you mention it, I never really realized that. I mean I don't really have a problem with the way it was in P3/P4, but after playing P2: IS, and seeing how the story keeps having changes/twists and it's not something like "save them before the end of the month", it's definitely a bit more interesting and unpredictable.

It'd be nice to see Atlus do Persona 5 a little shaken up again, and not so much "do this before the month ends" deal, but rather a story that constantly evolves and has real plot twists.

In any case, I think whenever P5 comes out, they will most likely really shake things up again, and it probably will set itself apart from P3/P4. Atlus is definitely one of the few that constantly tries new things.


It really should be .Atlus should made a big improve in Persona 5 , 'course they'll change to the next gen console ,it sure will lost lots of fans , so atlus should mades something to draw the gamers attraction

You think any small change will lose lots of fans. Homosexuality, change in gameplay mechanics, etc isn't going to lose fans. It would have to be incredibly dramatic change in gameplay, but even then most SMT fans I know are fiercely loyal to the franchise.

I was thinking, it'd be nice to bring back spell cards along with those knight/queen/king cards as well. However, the spell cards should have more common type of moves, and the more advanced moves should be about as rare as getting a chewing soul or soma in dungeons. I'm sure there could be some way to implement it with the fusion system.

[IceCold_Assassin]

I want the ability to create your own character....and for your character to talk just a tiny bit more. insted of a nod just say yeah. or goodbye. geez.

[Souji_Seta]

You think any small change will lose lots of fans. Homosexuality, change in gameplay mechanics, etc isn't going to lose fans. It would have to be incredibly dramatic change in gameplay, but even then most SMT fans I know are fiercely loyal to the franchise.

I was thinking, it'd be nice to bring back spell cards along with those knight/queen/king cards as well. However, the spell cards should have more common type of moves, and the more advanced moves should be about as rare as getting a chewing soul or soma in dungeons. I'm sure there could be some way to implement it with the fusion system.

That just my thought man . And the new storyline is not a small change . I'll pass that problem. I made a mistake so sorry , anyways


And yeah , i was thinking the same thing .That's a good idea *clapping hands*
Is very rare to have a item to restore SP . Of course i know the point of the game is nothing could happened in one day but Atlus should increase the item and the boxes
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[Fatney]

I want the ability to create your own character....and for your character to talk just a tiny bit more. insted of a nod just say yeah. or goodbye. geez.

No no no no, he can't talk at all. In P3/P4, he is supposed to represent you, so I just give him my voice in my head. If he talked, it would totally break that illusion.

Also, something that I like a lot about Protag is that he is a good "Default" character. His design is excellent IMO, because he looks good, but it's easy to see yourself in him no matter who you are (well, almost). His gray hair is neutral, and the haircut can look really fashionable or dorky depending on who the player is. The same can probably be said about his clothes too. He can be both manly or "girly" (not really, but not really manly" at the same time, depending on the player. I hope they never add the ability to create your own character.

[Saburo Hikari]

Also, something that I like a lot about Protag is that he is a good "Default" character. His design is excellent IMO, because he looks good, but it's easy to see yourself in him no matter who you are (well, almost). His gray hair is neutral, and the haircut can look really fashionable or dorky depending on who the player is. The same can probably be said about his clothes too. He can be both manly or "girly" (not really, but not really manly" at the same time, depending on the player. I hope they never add the ability to create your own character.Yeah, I agree. The protagonists represent the player, yet they have a personality all their own (We all know that Souji has a strange hobby of eating weird things in the fridge! :p), meaning they can appeal to most audiences.

[Vicious1915]

I want the ability to create your own character....and for your character to talk just a tiny bit more. insted of a nod just say yeah. or goodbye. geez.

No no no no, he can't talk at all. In P3/P4, he is supposed to represent you, so I just give him my voice in my head. If he talked, it would totally break that illusion.

Also, something that I like a lot about Protag is that he is a good "Default" character. His design is excellent IMO, because he looks good, but it's easy to see yourself in him no matter who you are (well, almost). His gray hair is neutral, and the haircut can look really fashionable or dorky depending on who the player is. The same can probably be said about his clothes too. He can be both manly or "girly" (not really, but not really manly" at the same time, depending on the player. I hope they never add the ability to create your own character.

Agreed and disagreed.

While I don't think they should add voice to the character, a character creation step would be a tremendous step up. I enjoy the style Atlus gives characters in the Megaten franchise and I don't think it would be that hard to incorporate a custom character into the game. I understand the options would be a little limited, but I also believe that it could be as customizable as the developers felt like budgeting for.

Also, as I've stated before, I'd like to see a return to former trends in the series, dropping the school sim, return to fighting demons, the use of the contact system, etc. With this in mind, I would be just as happy with Atlus creating a main character with a fully developed personality. In Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, Maya was the main character. She had her own personality, sense of style, likes and dislikes, etc. I was perfectly fine playing as her. She was an excellent character. I know Atlus can create a main character for future games just as well, if not better, and it will nothing like the ambiguous metro-sexual sissy boys of the Final Fantasy series.

On another note, I'd also like for Persona 5 to resemble Eternal Punishment by focusing on adults. It was refreshing to play through an RPG with no children present. As an adult, I appreciate an adult point of view once in a while.

[Kryptale]

I want the ability to create your own character....and for your character to talk just a tiny bit more. insted of a nod just say yeah. or goodbye. geez.

No no no no, he can't talk at all. In P3/P4, he is supposed to represent you, so I just give him my voice in my head. If he talked, it would totally break that illusion.

Also, something that I like a lot about Protag is that he is a good "Default" character. His design is excellent IMO, because he looks good, but it's easy to see yourself in him no matter who you are (well, almost). His gray hair is neutral, and the haircut can look really fashionable or dorky depending on who the player is. The same can probably be said about his clothes too. He can be both manly or "girly" (not really, but not really manly" at the same time, depending on the player. I hope they never add the ability to create your own character.

I understand this view, but all too often it felt as if my character was just an excuse to run around in the world. During story events, it always seemed to me that Yosuke was the game's main protagonist more so than Souji. Because of that fact, it really wouldn't matter to me if future protagonists in the series DID have their own personality and dialogue. To me, it'd pretty much be the same as sitting there and watching Yosuke blabber on about stuff.

As for switching the focus to adults, I really just don't think that appeals to the current fanbase that the series has built. I know it doesn't appeal to me personally. The school setting is something everyone can relate to, and the emotional versatility of teenagers lends itself extremely well to the series. The use of teenagers is probably one of the main draws for a lot of people.

[Vicious1915]

As for switching the focus to adults, I really just don't think that appeals to the current fanbase that the series has built. I know it doesn't appeal to me personally. The school setting is something everyone can relate to, and the emotional versatility of teenagers lends itself extremely well to the series. The use of teenagers is probably one of the main draws for a lot of people.

I agree with this. The emotional aspect of hormonal teenagers does lend itself to persona usage. But for mature games, I don't see what playing as adults would matter. It's just as viable, and honestly, I don't think it would really turn anyone off to the games. A little change is the only thing that keeps a series goin...

[Zacewing]

Please, don't bring back the Contact system. I hated the Contact system in Innocent Sin.

Also, it'd be nice if we could buy SP recovery items like we could in the DDS games.

And it'd be nice if the ending you get is determined by more than the decisions you make in like, 1 or 2 cutscenes RIGHT before said ending is supposed to occur, and instead make your decisions throughout the entire course of the game determine how the plot develops and what ending you get.

[Fatney]

And it'd be nice if the ending you get is determined by more than the decisions you make in like, 1 or 2 cutscenes RIGHT before said ending is supposed to occur, and instead make your decisions throughout the entire course of the game determine how the plot develops and what ending you get.

You are so right. When I heard about the 4 different endings-thing in P4, I expected it to be like you described.

And I also want VARIED different endings. Not endings that are either the short version or the satisfying, long version. I want every ending to be unique, even if it is super happy-everyone lived extremely good lives ever after, or totally devastating ones. I mean, the ending in P4 where Nanako actually dies for good was really sad but otherwise it was just the same as the other endings.

[Denninja]

FUSION SPELLS
ADVANCED S.LINKS
CUSTOM EQUIPMENT
"HEART" ITEMS
THIS IS WIN

[Iris]

The use of teenagers is probably one of the main draws for a lot of people.

I dunno if I'd consider that a big draw when the JRPG market is pretty flooded with teenage heroes (one of the reasons EP was such a novelty).

That said, the series is pitched at teenagers, has been stated in interviews to be aimed at teenagers, and I don't expect another party a la EP anytime soon.

-- which I do find sad, because I love the adult party, and I loved the way EP had the more mature group stepping in to clean up the fallout from the childish mistakes the younger cast made.

Though honestly I think I'd be less apathetic towards teenage parties if they ditched the calendar system and social links again; part of the reason I'm itching so badly for an adult party again is, I'm fairly sure, because I'm getting a little sick of reliving high school in my games. Playing as a seventeen-year-old kid: okay. Playing as a seventeen-year-old kid and budgeting out study time and asking girls on dates: I'd rather be saving the world, thanks. :(

[PersonaFan]

What do I want in Persona 5?
More bear puns :-D

[Souji_Seta]

^ Ha , yeah , I think so too xD
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[Fenix747]

Anyone think there's the chance for a Persona 4 FES like game?

[Zacewing]

Anyone think there's the chance for a Persona 4 FES like game?

No, Atlus has already stated there won't be an FES version of P4.

Hell, P3 didn't even need FES.

Also, I would like the gameplay to be more similar to P2 as well. Like, ditch the calender system and S.Links and make the plot progression similar to P2.

[Fenix747]

Anyone think there's the chance for a Persona 4 FES like game?

No, Atlus has already stated there won't be an FES version of P4.

Hell, P3 didn't even need FES.

Also, I would like the gameplay to be more similar to P2 as well. Like, ditch the calender system and S.Links and make the plot progression similar to P2.


Dang, as I have previously stated I was hoping for more Yukiko, an stuff

[ax_colleen]

maybe a female protagonist? that's sound cool, never heard of one before

I don't want to remove the calendar system and the social links, it's fun...

please ps2, or ds...
other platforms are way too expensive
and, adding minigames will be cool

*imagines a game where all persona users are involved*
no persona 4 FES? aw...

[ax_colleen]

And it'd be nice if the ending you get is determined by more than the decisions you make in like, 1 or 2 cutscenes RIGHT before said ending is supposed to occur, and instead make your decisions throughout the entire course of the game determine how the plot develops and what ending you get.

You are so right. When I heard about the 4 different endings-thing in P4, I expected it to be like you described.

And I also want VARIED different endings. Not endings that are either the short version or the satisfying, long version. I want every ending to be unique, even if it is super happy-everyone lived extremely good lives ever after, or totally devastating ones. I mean, the ending in P4 where Nanako actually dies for good was really sad but otherwise it was just the same as the other endings.

it was just the same as the other endings that nanako dies? I thought she lives in the end when you rescue her from the insane guy, and she meets the protagonist (seta) when he is going to leave, she even promised not to cry or did I understand wrong? :question:

[Ike.]

FUSION SPELLS

^this

[LadyRayna]

maybe a female protagonist? that's sound cool, never heard of one before

Persona 2 Eternal Punishment says hi.

I must admit though, I didn’t like Maya as a silent protagonist.

[PersonaFan]

I'd like a longer game too...
Then we all could enjoy Persona's total wootness for a long time :tongue:.

[Iris]

I must admit though, I didn’t like Maya as a silent protagonist.

oh god, this. I'm all for having a female main, but when it's the same girl who talked your ear off in the prequel, having her go around dotting is just bizarre to me.

That one scene in Ameno Torifune where she and Tatsuya sit by the wall and dot at each other cracks me up every time, though.

[Souji_Seta]

Agreed . A silent protagonist sounds pretty "cold" .
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[Iris]

Silent works for some of them -- Tatsuya was perfect as a silent protag because there were big reasons in his backstory for why he's so detached.

Maya, however, is established in IS as being cheerful, bubbly, and the one who's usually first to speak up about anything -- and then suddenly in EP you don't see her say a word. I'm fond of the silent protags, but taking an established chatterbox and trying to turn her into one is always going to feel strange to me.

[xerosbeat]

alright I've played Revelations: Persona, Persona2: Eternal Punishment, Persona 3, Persona 3 Fes and Persona 4 and after reading some of the posts here my opinion is....

1. the calendar system is very restrictive, perhaps not abolish it altogether maybe just adding more activity options through out the day would be best.

2. the contact system was great but it really all depends on were the game goes, if we keep battling shadows or not.

3. I really liked the summoning system in Persona 2, were you gather arcana cards and summon the according persona "paying" the amount of tarot cards for that arcana, this would really fix the whole not knowing fusion outcome problems.

4. different personas for all characters please - I understand that a specific persona for each character helps better portray their personality but this can still be achieved with different personas, i.e. a character like say Yukiko would be able to summon Amaterasu, Kikuri-hime, Parvati and maiden type charcters, whereas someone like kanji should be able to summon Oni, Berith, Samael; in any case they can also go back to how it was in P2 and have hidden personas that can only be used by a specific character.

5.fusion spells would be great but not just between personas of the same lore

6. it would be great to see the characters armor change just like in P3 fes

[rpgguy999]

to persona 5 i want...

1)Custom Character
2-)Gender Select
3-)MC more Talkative
4-)Fusion Spells
5-)SP recovery items to buy
6-)NO Game Over than the MC dies
7-)A looong game
8-)The MC uses all weapons(just like P3FES)
9-)and...maybe hidden bosses

that's what i think

[holy_]

I love Persona character name that still using Japanese name.
I wish they keep doing that in the future

[Iris]

3-)MC more Talkative

I doubt we'll see this one, and honestly...I wouldn't want a more talkative MC. It's such a long-standing Megaten tradition that having it broken just feels bizarre to me (which might be one of the things that made me so :/ when I was playing The Answer).

I disliked Maya being turned into a silent protag, because she'd been previously established as anything but, but in the case of a brand new MC, I'd rather see them stick with the status quo, for the same reason I'd be highly disappointed if a game came out and didn't have Jack Frost in it somewhere.

[Lee_Kay]

WILL BE PERSONA 4 CONTINUE???i hope SO...Like The PErsona 4 NEXT??

Okay The PErsona 4 Have BEST STORY...but is to early short....WILL BE PERSONA 4 RELEASED FOR SECOND?Persona 4-2....
i think this game will be succes if the second for persona 4 released for ps2

[Lee_Kay]

Story
-Allright,in the story,MC back to his big city,And Their Friends Want to celebrate with MC,Their Friend Like Yosuke,Yukiko,Chie,Naoto,Etc....Come to big city and make a celebrate....
for as long,In the night new mystery back,the city get more shadow in the night and are ghost....The ghost kill everyone who appear in,and the murder case back again..but The killer is very mystery...and now the persona
team like MC,Chie,Yosuke,etc back again for help..

Dungeon
-Talk about Dungeon....Dungeon in the Big Luxurious mansion..
In The Hospital,Etc....
Character
-Same as the persona 4...But are new character
Enemy
-Not just Shadow....But Zombie,Ghost,etc....
Event
-In this event are new and much....Like Go out to check the Mystery Place....Or More
Social Link
-same as the before,but New....in here U can Marry Somegirl in this game in the ending...^^

ATLUS PLeASE RELEASE IT FOR PSP and PS2^^ DON't FORGET I MAKE THIS IDEA FOR 4 MONTH

[Yukichin]

The biggest thing I would want is more choice in who you date; both girls and guys.

[Onion of Mystery]

Lee Kay, you have made the exact same post four times in a 12-hour period. Please stop.

[AbsyntheDelacroix]

Yeah, Persona 4-2. Greatest idea ever since Final Fantasy X-2, and your story is pure gold. I'm sure that deep inside, Onion is taking notes. Because, yeah, Atlus USA develops games.

[Lee_Kay]

-Story
The StoRy Before i Post,is short,i will tell how can the city have a shadow,ghost,zombie???because The Unknown Research Make a this creatures
-Gameplay
Gameplay in this game is more amazing than the before,u can go out with ur friends(Yukiko amagi,Chie,Yosuke,Naoto,etc...)for Explore in the every place like,Old Hospital,Old Mansion,Park,etc....
Shadow,Zombie and the ghost avaible at Night so u can check every place..
-Character
The new character are The Team Rescue,There are:Azumi Yamagi,Kotaro yasuke,Minako kaimi,etc....
-Music
The music is same as persona 4 before,but are new here
-Ending
The MC Can Marry Somegirl in this ending game ^^,But Before That u can Make a Sosial link Relationship..
-Calendar
Start From 21 MArc 2012,and End to 28 December 2013
Okay I will make New Idea if i Found^^GOOD LUCK ATLUS!!U Can Beat That Square-enix Games,although They Make a FF XIII !!

[Lee_Kay]

The Place in The Persona 4-2 Is Big Like In Tokyo,Osaka and Inaba Are Connected From The Cased

C'Mon ATLUS U will Be Stronger....U Will be The Best Developer!!!

[chluophobi]

I fully support Lee Kay's ideas. Come on Atlus, make it so! :3

[Rin]

I think Lee Kay's idea is very interesting, but I guess I remember Atlus stating that they won't make another sequel for P4... But if they'll make one, I'll totally look forward to it...:)

[Lee_Kay]

u can Go By Taxi,Bus,Or Car^^

AtluS i want to help u be 1st Developer Game^^ i will

[rpgguy999]

-Ending
The MC Can Marry Somegirl in this ending game ^^,But Before That u can Make a Sosial link Relationship..


that would be awesome :D

[Lee_Kay]

Union Attack
-The Special in this battle is Union Attack,u can Make a combo union attack with ur friend like "Twin Slash"(Yosuke & MC),etc....

[Lee_Kay]

Bad Ending
- The Bad ending>>MC will Going Far without say a word to his Friends
Normal Ending
-The World BAck To Peace Again and MC make a celebrate with Friends
True Ending
-The World BAck To Peace Again and MC make a celebrate with Friends,But in HERE.....U Can Marry One Girl in this game(Yukiko AMAGI,CHIE SANOTAKA,NAOTO SHIROGANE,RISE,ETC.......)

AtLus GBU^^

[Lee_Kay]

Ok,The Weapon are:
-Azumi Yamagi(Throwing Knife),Kotaro Yasuke(Hand To Hand Combat),Minako Kaimi(Whip),etc.....

GBU ATLUS^^

[Onion of Mystery]

Perhaps you should sit down and figure all this out beforehand instead of posting every single time you get an idea.

[Lee_Kay]

Calendar Not Start From Marc,but Start at 4 May

[DamageCity]

Calendar Not Start From Marc,but Start at 4 May


The calander starts at the begining of the Japanese school year, why would it start from May?

Lee Kay, where are you from?

[Wallabert]

I know it would take god awful amounts of work, but can we have some kinda of character customization for appearance. I don't always like dressing emo or metro. Maybe some hair colors just for starters. Then we can move on to chosing our sex from the beginning.

Id love to see that in the next Shin Megami Tensei as well. Character creation in a way.

I know it may sound crazy but some people dont wanna be a snotty little boys or gothic lolita girls.

By the way P4-2 good deal, id pay 69.99 for that. :D

[Ark]

This is just in general for SMT...and it for the main character to have speaking lines. That and have the main character say lines that can affect the course of the story. If RPG's like Mass Effect and Fable can do this, then certainly SMT can pull this off.

[gerry bob]

About the weapon I prefer a more new weapon like
Gun
Mace
Halberd
And light saber will cool too:D

[Lee_Kay]

Calendar Not Start From Marc,but Start at 4 May


The calander starts at the begining of the Japanese school year, why would it start from May?

Lee Kay, where are you from?

indonesian,u???~

[Evilkinggumby]

First off this is assuming they build the next game on the ps2. And sorry if this looks huge.. just had a lot of ideas knockin' about in the skull as i hammered through these games :) And yeah some of this may be in use with the MMO thats being developed... but I'd still like to see most of it implemented in a regular games or over several volumes.

Jump to the bottom of the post for summary features--->

I would like to see them do something a bit different and pull the story out of japan. I don't need it to be in America, but, they seem to like using the "new guy in town" aspect in their series so why not take the main guy (japanese or whatever they want) and have him actually being an exchange student somewhere else. They talk about having the characters do it in the games, why not try it?

It would allow for an ever greater "fish out of water" vibe for the game. It would allow them to step into some new ground conceptually and pull more of that local lore into it(the persona compendium scapes not only Japanese mythos but many many other countries, which I love). And, by stepping into other territory, they could do Cameo or crossover work with former characters (even briefly) when apropriate. Since they usually only allow the MC the ability to swap persona's at will(or have multiple) this could allow for something slightly Suikoden-esque where you can "gather" a larger range of persona users through the game and better customize a party that you like. There was a lot of characters in P3 and P4 but it still felt limited (say in p4, 2 people that use Ice attacks but none of the other users are "status effect" based? )

I think the one thing I would REALLY love to see is how the characters from all the previous games turned out. I watched about 1/4 the Persona Trinity series hoping to catch glimpses of past characters from P3(then read the Wiki and when I saw only 1 was brought back, stopped watching). The games build so much on character growth and make you understand and even identify with them. It seems such a waste to then abandon them completely. I see a lot of posts for people wanting a P4-2.. so I think that kind of sentiment is common for those that loved the games.

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Did Kanji ever finally settle on leading a normal life? Did Chie go to the academy to really become an officer? And what of Nanako? Is she suffering from traumatic nightmares even years after it all, haunted by the shadows she encountered? (heck considering the explanations given at the end of p4, could not her tortured psyche possibly bring about a chain of events to bring back a need for the Mist? Especially if she started talking about it with her younger classmates who wouldn't realize what they were truly wishing for)

OR the ultimate novelty... If your MC is a sibling of the main character from P3 or 4 and you "read their journal" you could get bonus s.link or dialogue when running across previous characters. (the game would read your memory card and look for previous saved games from p3 and p4 and grab the data for the "s.links" of said characters and apply it to the current game. This could fuel players just trying out P5 to invest in P3 and 4 so see what a difference it makes.)

I'd like to see the game step out of the younger class and maybe move into college age or beyond. What differences are there in adult persona users? Would they have additional abilities or limits?

The games seem to love spanning the better part of a year and at the same time isolate the events and story to 1 particular plotline. Would it possibly be better to expand on this and have a persona game that spans the entire(or mostly so) of the MC's life? It seems a lot of people want customization and options for the game(Male/female, custom hair/clothes/etc) if you took the time to make all that content I think it would be worth it to actually span the story of a persona user from child to adult. Granted yes the logistics of that are enormous, but since some of the games like to be episodic, I would be more then willing to buy installments if you did it split up. Volume 1 being childhood to adolescence(similar to the current games but slightly younger to start) and volume 2 being college age to adulthood. Make a slower progression for the S. Links and a number of people that you could meet or interact with to get those links up. This would sound like ou'd still have to live and play through every day of every year of the characters life.. which would be tedious as all hell. But there is the ability for the dev's to "jump" gaps where things are incident free and move the story ahead. They did it in p3/4 so why not here.

Since they have already developed the base "engine" for their ps3 games, the majority of the dev time and resources are likely still on building the graphics for every locale and every character, and the mobs. Custom content would take a fair shake of work, but not all of it would be timely(recolors for hair and various outfits, building a random engine to "build" faces and characters that are not key players, etc) then it's a matter of story, dialogue, and balancing. There is already what, 250+ persona to toy with? Using the system they built into p3 where you can swap items to get cards to "tweak" persona could be implemented to better make every persona you get helpful(especially if you spread the full deck of persona across a lifetime). That way you could spread the lvl requirement per persona out. I have skipped a lot of persona in my play-throughs for sheer lack of necessity. And there are other ones made that ROCKED but got replaced before any real use.

Not to imply the game has to be grind-heavy at all. But elements for using/getting persona could be applied. Can you only fuse and summon Magician arcana when you're expression and Knowledge are at certain levels? Do you need to be Courageous in order to pull out Titan or Ares?

And while I'm at it.. if you work through a lifetime and develop a character from kid to adult, you might as well grab ahold of the bandwagon thats popular now and have "karma" in place where you can have decisions made early on or throughout the game effect elements of the story or s.Links later. By implementing that you add a NEW element to the series that I am sure folk might appreciate....

Dark Persona Users. Up to this point generally the bad persona users were the antagonists. But, as you work through S.links in p3 and 4 you usually have the options to be apathetic or a total jerk. So why not build a negative s.link system. Either befriend folks and get bonus's to the exp gain when fusing , or build up contempt or hatred from them and when fusing in that arcana, get higher base stats. That way either route would end in a similar result, but allows for a different play style and has more effect on the "trickiness" of interaction with people (e.g. option a makes Ikusu happy, b neutral, wherein c is offensive, but it's not clear which option is what Ikusu wants to hear). That allows for a LOT of replay and experimentation. As well it would allow players to build a "light" deck of persona, a "dark" deck, or a mix. Then you build(program in) a single flag on the 250+ persona in game that visually renders them normal or shadowed and BOOM one graphical setup doubles the database. The abilities of the light and dark persona could easily be the same, and the base nature of each arcana doesn't change, it's more the mild twist on how the MC perceives that aspect of themselves. Sort of like the regular and inverse position of a tarot has 2 meanings for the same card.

(Or, in relation to a feature i talk about earlier with tweaking, choose to either nurture your persona or torture them. Light persona are nurtured and are loyal but Dark persona follow you out of respect, fear, or common goals.This would be in lieu of just purchasing neutral stat items)

So lets recap(for those who don't want to read all that lol)

Persona 5 would sport the following features:

New locations: Live in a small suburban town! Move to the big City! Study abroad and investigate the Shadows on other continents!
Epic story: Play your character from childhood to adult and shape their growth and the future of the world as you see fit! Become close friends with over 40 characters across the globe and fight to save them and the world!
Enhanced Customization: Play male or female, choose your characters "style" then grow and change it as you unlock hundreds of custom items and objects. Purchase materials and items to enhance and empower persona's you want to keep around!
Consequences: Now you have to be accountable for your interactions and can grow into a Noble Hero or make others hate you and step into the malevolent Shadow Master. The fusion database now yields both Dark and Light persona, allowing for over 500 different possibilities!
Familiar faces: Many old faces can be spotted from previous games on your travels. Persona 5 utilizes your old save games to build on previous S.Links and enhance story options!

[Lauro]

Cool Ideas Evil King, i Would really play that persona...
well Atlus USA doesnt make games but they have contact with the Atlus JAP dont they?
they could show our ideas :D dontchu guys think?

[Lee_Kay]

First I Told in The Post Before The Shadow Created By The Unknown Researcher,and The Enemy Have a Dark Persona,There Are 12 Person
-But in here The Battle Would Be one by one and Battle as before in The P4 & P3
Dark Persona Are:
-Takaya Aika(Soldier)
-Jin Katsuyato(Bandit)
-Kaori(Dancer Night)
-or More.....
They Will Fight with u in the story

Hmm,Btw How about The MC in P3?We can use to battle by Load Save data in P3

[Evilkinggumby]

First I Told in The Post Before The Shadow Created By The Unknown Researcher,and The Enemy Have a Dark Persona,There Are 12 Person
-But in here The Battle Would Be one by one and Battle as before in The P4 & P3
Dark Persona Are:
-Takaya Aika(Soldier)
-Jin Katsuyato(Bandit)
-Kaori(Dancer Night)
-or More.....
They Will Fight with u in the story

Hmm,Btw How about The MC in P3?We can use to battle by Load Save data in P3

i don't recall anything worded as dark persona in your last few posts(this newest one aside) . past that I have no idea what you're talking about in this post...

tho i do get the last part about the MC loaded from the mem card. I would think maybe pulling the data from the MC save game from p3 and p4(or even side characters from either) and having you need to "prove yourself" by dualing with them as they were in that game would be fun. they'd just have to modify it slightly like use 50% of the last saved persona available and add another 50% custom to balance or modify the char to make it hard/easy a match.... mostly the balancing would render things pretty sloppy and they'd just pull the old char's name from the save so it LOOKED like your old character.. which'd be kool too

[Zacewing]

Lee Kay, stop posting.

[Olethros]

I wrote quite a bit here...and then deleted it all. No point. This thread, in and of itself, says everything I was going to say well enough on it's own. :frown:

[Lee_Kay]

First I Told in The Post Before The Shadow Created By The Unknown Researcher,and The Enemy Have a Dark Persona,There Are 12 Person
-But in here The Battle Would Be one by one and Battle as before in The P4 & P3
Dark Persona Are:
-Takaya Aika(Soldier)
-Jin Katsuyato(Bandit)
-Kaori(Dancer Night)
-or More.....
They Will Fight with u in the story

Hmm,Btw How about The MC in P3?We can use to battle by Load Save data in P3

i don't recall anything worded as dark persona in your last few posts(this newest one aside) . past that I have no idea what you're talking about in this post...

tho i do get the last part about the MC loaded from the mem card. I would think maybe pulling the data from the MC save game from p3 and p4(or even side characters from either) and having you need to "prove yourself" by dualing with them as they were in that game would be fun. they'd just have to modify it slightly like use 50% of the last saved persona available and add another 50% custom to balance or modify the char to make it hard/easy a match.... mostly the balancing would render things pretty sloppy and they'd just pull the old char's name from the save so it LOOKED like your old character.. which'd be kool too

hehe thats my best idea

[Fatney]

Lee_Kay, do you too much free time? I mean, instead of posting some simple ideas for the next Persona, you have written a whole new game it seems. And most of the ideas are pretty... Unappealing.

Evilkinggumby, your ideas sounds like The Sims(or even The Urbz :|) combined with Persona. Do not want!


Enough critisism: I wish they would make the next Persona pretty different. Sure, I loved the Social Link system and about everything else in P3 and P4, they were pretty unique games and they felt fresh. But that's part of why they were so good for me, it was a new experience. I hope they will give me that feeling again in Persona 5.

Or they could almost completely overhaul the social link system and change some other stuff so it would kinda be the same, but still feel different. And the main Character could probably go to work and be older instead of going to school. Or this "great" idea: Kindergarten!

[RenaCamelia]

Maybe it will be interesting if the MC is an idol or celebrity... like a high school actor/ boys idol/ model/ singer, etc...
then instead of part time jobs it is auditions for TV series or modeling contract...

but maybe the creator prefer something more down-to-earth, haha... what do you think?

[Onion of Mystery]

Evilkinggumby, your ideas sounds like The Sims(or even The Urbz :|) combined with Persona. Do not want!

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7816/simstensei.jpg
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[Evilkinggumby]

haha nice pic onion. cute. That has to be the most creative and artistic slam on me i've seen..ever :)

I wasn't shooting for a sandbox game where you just play the character and their lives in their day to day strife to make friends and get ahead in jobs... I've played a lot of sims 2 (and WAY back... sims 1 ) but not urbz.. so not sure where the similarities you're talking about are with that one.

Mostly I'd like to see the micro turn into a macro for the series. Think big, dream big, make the next one or next few really carry some weight and time and pull in a few more ideas and aspects.

I do agree, the fresh and new feeling of the social links in p3 and 4 will get old an dated feeling if that's the "hinge" that the series bases itself and it doesn't see much change. I would like to see them continue it, or even expand it in ways that make for fun, rather then monotonous, experiences.

But ultimately it would be a way for them to plot and scheme a much larger, longer, complicated web of stories, characters, and events that would dwarf the previous games in comparison, with less dev time on graphics and more dev time on writing story, dialogue, and character progression. I'm not looking to have characters interact, marry, have kids, and retire. I don't want to spend every day monitoring their stats and levels and telling my MC to go to the bathroom(though the fact it was optional to hit a restroom in p3/4 was amusing). What I do want is a logical, well thought out method for them to expand on what they have, grow deep roots back into what they created previously in the other games, and strengthen all of their ideas into a lengthier story. Even if it's on 2 discs or split into 2 volumes sold separately. All the people who burn through the game in the second playthrough mode, I'd hope, are doing it because they both want to see any other new content available, but to play the game more because they LIKE it.

I guess for folks that play because they like to be challenged in collecting every persona 'pokemon' style and could give 2 rats about the characters and story, it'd be a total waste of time. But judging by the forums and posts and stuff out there, it seems like a lot of people actually enjoy and have an attachment(however big or small) to the characters and worlds they've played 100+ hours with.

But hey thats just my pipedream. As some folks have commented , this is Atlus USA and it's more myth then reality anything discussed here would reach the dev's in Atlus Asia. *sigh* Means Lee Kay has a better chance of hbeing heard due to proximity lol. tho.. why doesn't lee kay use the asian boards? :D

[Quig]

Persona 5.

How about taking up in the gap between P3 and P4. If Igors assistant (Margerett, I think it was) is looking for a cure to heal the hero from P3, then how about tying that into P5? Have her get captured and the MC from P5 saves her and helps her out...

[Iris]

Remember when Persona was about being one step behind an antagonist who actually did ####, and having to chase them down and try to stop them without being able to take time to flirt with the cute girl from your school club and eat magic food that makes you smarter?

I miss that.

[OverGAR]

The only things I enjoyed in the previus version (3-4) was the S. Link and the Personas. Was cool going to school and the others crap xD

I want their return to the old story like P2. I mean a bigger city, the calendar system was good but i hate wait for something in the end.
I love P2 and at least I wish the next version take more of the first two, like cooler antagonists, not only shadow battle but people with personas or terrorist or zombies or soldiers. That kind of things, with a darker/bizarre story.

About the calendar we always know that something will happen in the enf of the month or in the fog days. They'll just wait for something for me that's a crap because it lose the surprise.
What happen if we go to the school a normal day and see the corps of studets, that should be kind of cool. Something that take you in full surprise.

Well, that's what I think about a next Persona 5.

[StormofSwords]

Ideas for 5? Well...Don't do something stupid, like put it on the PS3 only. Other than that, it would be fine if it was the exact same as the last two with prettier graphics, in my mind.

[Lee_Kay]

PleAse Released It In PS2,U Will Succes AtLus....
DOn't just WII....
PErsona4-2 Is The WAY

[diis]

i want that it would stay on ps2 and atlus dont work on the beter graphics cause you will fall like everyone, on the other hand you cant make even beter graphics on ps2...

[killua93]

well you all say that this suggestions will not be past to atlus japan but i'll do it anyways

request board system: in P4, i find it inconvenient to talk to every people almost every day to find new quest

1 lover only: lol second this. i feel bad about the MC playing with those girls' hearts

interaction with the cast of other persona games: maybe a cut scene or two would be gr8

new persona designs: more than 80% of the personae in P4 comes from P3. and thats really bad

more cutscenes: only a few cutscenes show every month so i suggest adding more

unique social links: maybe the MC will form a social link with one of his persona or S.link with a shadow.

more interactions (this would make the game more realistic): it would be gr8 if the MC can invite some of his S.links friends to hang out too.

accomplishing something will improve MC's effectiveness in battle: like increases critical dmg, evasion or even double attack when the MC max a social link or status

more stats: five is still not enough raaaaaaawwwrrr. add some stats like coolness, popularity, fitness

able to change the BGM: i was happy they allow it in P3FES becuz i was tired of music being played over and over again while going up a tower with 250+ floors (they just remix it in every block)



there are also some things i have to disagree

other members changing persona: that would ruin the uniqueness and awesomeness of the MC, it would make the game easier (whats the point of playing a game if you don't want to be challenge?) and it will make the game have less party members.

growing persona: that would destroy the social link and fusion system.

removal of S.links: come on, this is the trademark of the persona series

well i would expect that P5 will live up to its name and pass the megaten quality

[kelvinc]

Means Lee Kay has a better chance of hbeing heard due to proximity lol. tho.. why doesn't lee kay use the asian boards? :D

Don't scare me like that.

Reading this thread, I've come to the conclusion that I don't have anything to say about a possible P5, except that I'd probably buy it. My imagination is clearly nowhere near as good as Atlus developers, and nowhere near as broad as newbies with limited English skills. :roll:
(Don't be offended. My experience is that people who get my digs are not my intended targets.)

removal of S.links: come on, this is the trademark of the persona series
Ermm... ....no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelations:_Persona) it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_2) isn't (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Persona).

[OverGAR]

new persona designs: more than 80% of the personae in P4 comes from P3. and thats really bad
Do you really think that for each version you have to change the desing for Each demon/Persona? there are like 400-500. C'mon, wake up.
The persona desing of P3 come from SMT Nocturne and this one have some of the old ones. Each Megante change the desing of some demons. For example the Angel and those Slimes in Devil Summoner 2 have another desingn. I agree that it have to be little by little.

other members changing persona: that would ruin the uniqueness and awesomeness of the MC, it would make the game easier (whats the point of playing a game if you don't want to be challenge?) and it will make the game have less party members.
Persona 1 and 2 were harder than 3/4 so the game Is not easier just because you change something in the system. The MCs were cooler just for their roll in the Story they have their unique Persona and have unique abilities.

removal of S.links: come on, this is the trademark of the persona series
Never was, never will be xDDD

For me It's cool, I don't mind if they keep it.

[Iris]

other members changing persona: that would ruin the uniqueness and awesomeness of the MC, it would make the game easier (whats the point of playing a game if you don't want to be challenge?) and it will make the game have less party members.

It doesn't have to make the game have less party members. P1 still had nine characters (more than P4, I should add!); you simply had to make some choices about who to use for the game, instead of being able to change them out at will. And frankly, I actually prefer a fixed party. It annoys me irrationally when everybody's not roughly on par in levels, but I hate having to switch in characters I never use just to grind and keep them up, too.

Moreover, I don't want the MC to be ~*~the most special snowflake~*~. I find Tatsuya to be the most interesting of the Persona MCs by far, and 95% of that is because he actually has character flaws, and he's an equal part of his party, not some kind of hyped up Jesus figure in the middle of it who everybody else is just there to admire and play second fiddle to. I enjoyed P3 and P4, but honestly, I found it pretty boring after a while how everybody was like YOU'RE THE BEST PERSON EVER, MC ^_____^ all the time.

removal of S.links: come on, this is the trademark of the persona series

Two games out of five. That's forty percent of the series. Less than half.

Ergo: no. Not the series trademark. If anything is the trademark of the series, I'd say it's the psychologically oriented storylines and the way characters draw power from aspects of their psyche and have to overcome darker parts of themselves to realize their true potential. (Oh, P3, you're such a red-headed stepchild of the series.)

[Lee_Kay]

-Your Affection(RemIX)
-I'll Face Myself(Slow MIX)
-Reach For The TruTh
-AND MORE NEW FROM U^^

[killua93]

i read your comments about my suggestion (lol i admit most of my suggestions are bad. they just pop to my head then typed immediately)

i would like to see a persona-user with dual persoality thus resulting to have two personae. lol this is impossible but whats wrong with wishful thinking ^^

[Evilkinggumby]

I enjoyed P3 and P4, but honestly, I found it pretty boring after a while how everybody was like YOU'RE THE BEST PERSON EVER, MC ^_____^ all the time.

Yeah that seems to be a theme for a lot of JRPG's in general. The "savior" mentality. I'm not sure when it became a requirement for the main hero/heroine to be the next super savior of the free world.. but I suspect that'll always be around. I agree with you tho, I actually loved playing the newer version of "The Bard's tale" because for one, it's snarky and sarcastic and full of self referential humor that makes it SO fun(Carey Elwes, c'mon people!) but more to the point, the "hero" is so NOT a hero, not super, not amazing, not overpowered or anything. He's some shlub con artist trying to get a days pay, a warm bed, and maybe some cleavage. lol.

I suspect as the initial "gamer" age increases are there are more and more adults still playing stuff this whole dynamic may change, but, so far it's a slow crawl.

Having a sense of a balance where your character is still a bit more powerful then your group members, but actually giving a little more to each of them so in the end you really have to make use of every little bit of teamwork possible with your party, would be an interesting change. I know teamwork plays into all the games, but because of the versatility and general "power" of the MC usually my other party members, even when apropo level, are still behind the MC in spells and effectiveness (p4 most of my party didn't get their best -DYNE spells until late in the game, wherein I had them on persona about halfway through). So it always seemed like my MC was pulling dead weight. And I HATED running to a fight or boss fight and discovering that X character has NO effective spells or abilities in the fight, so aside from resetting or trying to do it with the other 3, there is no point in them being there. I know in random encounters it's going to happen.. but..for major boss fights.. it..suxx.. Makes having the guide or FAQ more necessary :)

I do take a shine to the concept of having 1 or 2 persona each within your groups party members, especially if you could use fusion for other members (like you have to make sure the new persona is the matching arcana for the member..etc). The game difficulty would have to be amped up a bit, but if they did what I threw into my original posting about extending the games story and length a lot more, it'd be natural(early party members only use 1, later on they can acquire another... etc. heck as it is every party member starts with 1 and "changes" to another in p3/4 so they're ALMOST there now, even if the new persona is just a variant of the original).

And yes I realize that dynamic is 100% contrary to what they've done so far, so I doubt it'd ever be considered. It's just something "fresh" that would be intriguing to see. When someone has a change of heart, or a coming of age moment, they "acquire" a stronger version of what they had, or, something moving in a different direction(e.g. from magic based combat stance, character Yohko starts with an ice based persona to reflect the strong, cold heart she grew up with, very defensive, calculating and logical. She eventually has a change of heart and truly sees what her goals are, so her new persona is fire based, to signify the blazing determination and passion she feels to accomplish her new tasks and commit to a sense of herself. if Yohko still had the ice persona, she is able to keep some of the defensive abilities, whereas she also has a persona for offense and you have to pick which is best in a fight, so, a bit more strategy!)

Or the idea of a "multiple personality", which i liked(thank you, killua93!). Your mc could actually run into someone who seemed to have the ability to pull multiple out(starts with 2, over time may pull even more, up to say 6?) but in time and dialogue the other members start to realize the character is getting more and more unpredictable and "forgetful" as they seem to "acquire" additional persona in battle(or sneaking off at night to their own velvet room.. or rubber room.. lol). It would be similar to a story arc in p3 in that you'd get a late party member, they'd be fairly strong and get pretty powerful as the next few weeks/months progressed in the story, but once you hit their maximum potential, everyone begins to realize the user has a MPD and each persona they collect seems to be a facet of each personality, further making the person unstable and possibly insane.

then you actually have a funky boss fight where you have to fight someone at yer current lvl that has a spectrum of beasties to throw at you... oh the fun of strategizing THAT :)

Since the character would have several personalities, he could be wildly chaotic and strange, but carry an indescribable charisma that keeps him amusing, endearing, and make the party members attached to him, despite the problems arising. That COULD lead much much later to getting that character back (at the 11th hour, so to speak) after a few months/year treatment for their problem and they have a better grasp of who they are, why they had developed the disorder, and how they can control it(to some degree). I realize in the real world MPD is not something you just "cure" in a few months, but, well, this game isn't taking place in reality hehehe . :o

[FangzV]

Having what you say actually have more of an effect on what's going on.
I'd like that.

[kelvinc]

Having what you say actually have more of an effect on what's going on.
I'd like that.

I don't disagree with the idea per se but I do want it done carefully. It should be gradual, in an almost KOTOR way.

What I don't want is, say, having to retrace two months because I pissed off some girl and I can't get some item now. Heck, I'm kinda peeved that I wasn't able to complete a SLink in P4 due to plot developments (especially because I was probably one interaction away, and already rushing thing with said person due to foreshadowing). The corollary of given more decisions is more mistakes, which I can live with in real life, but I'm not as sure if I have the patience for it in a video game.

[trikz84]

well, for one the main persona should not be as weak as izanagi and orpheus where.the should include a birthday system as well as being able to chose the gender of your protagonist. mabe the game should be longer to. also, they need new designs for shadows instead of old re-skinned ones from previous games. and lastly, the game should go next gen.

[scrpioknight016]

I played all of the Persona series (except innocent sin..still trying to figure out how to) and i am quite amazed with how the game and graphics evolved. There a lot of things that I missed from the earlier persona installments that they took out of the recent ones (P3 and P4) though the latest ones have their own unique qualities as well.

Ideas for persona 5..

Main character death: I think they should modify this a little bit. Having the MC die and makes the game over is kind of hurtful especially when you're the type who doesn't save often. I agree it is challenging but it is kind of frustrating when you play the game for six hours and get killed by a HAMA or MUDO spell in the middle of a dungeon and get game over.and it is time consuming too to go back (either use stairs, traesto, or goho-m) and save and go back in the dungeon again. (i almost stopped playing the game 'cause of this haha) and it makes the MC too important haha.. they could modify a little by having an ally resuscitate the main character once since the item pool can be used by everybody. of course there are personae who have endure, enduring soul, and homonculi but you can't equip these personae all the time..and all the party members can endure a mortal blow at SL9, why can't MC?

High school setting: I think they could stray away from the high school setting a little bit and think of a new appealing way (still thinking of one myself) or at least have the conventional RPG style. newer places to visit that seem realistic, (as opposed to P3's tartarus and P4's tv world). i kind of miss P2's sumaru city.it seemed really realistic.

Fusion spells: don't you guys miss this? party members can fuse their persona spells to create a more powerful spell that can attack all with a higher damage percentage? it really kicks ass and the effects are really amazing (in my opinion). P3 has this but it is persona-restricted not spell.

spell variety: atlus took out most of the old spells in P2 and put some new ones in P3 and P4.reduced elements from 11 in P2 (agi, aqua, garu, magna, zio, bufu, frei, gry/megido, hama, mudo) to 8 (agi, garu, bufu, zio, megido, hama, mudo)..and also stat enhancing spells from 5 to 3..

demon contact: i feel they should bring this back..makes the battles more strategic and since they make MC death game over, you can pick your battles and talk to demons to save yourself if he's low and HP and healing items/spells are unusable as well.

unchangeable party persona:i think it restricts the game too much.i dunno i just like more game variety and possibility.change restricted to the main character cuts variety a whole lot.the game has a lot of personae but only one person to equip them all...kind of harsh haha j/k

if they make a P5 i really hope it is amazing.but i will try it out regardless.

[Lee_Kay]

THIS IS THE BEST GAME U MAKE IN THIS YEAR:agree:

[Foobar]

Things I want to see in Persona 5:

Something weird happens... after I get off the subway train.

I'm a transfer student.

There are a string of murders I have to investigate, even though I'm a high school student or journalist and not a police officer or detective.

I meet a nice rich girl, some confidant atheletic guy, a class clown, some other chicks and some mysterious character. Maybe have an animal assist us in the adventure. One of these fellow adventurers will probably be gay. Since the matter wasn't addressed in P3, I'm just going to assume it was the dog.

Everyone will have some kind of personal issue they have to face and overcome. Surprisingly, they will never suffer from body issues, even though we constantly go out to eat every chance we get.

I will meet a strange man than no one else can see but me and a butterfly is stalking me.

There will be a moment where the girls put on kimonos or are caught wearing something that embarsses them.

I will be able to have multiple girlfriends completely oblivious to each other.

Either all the characters will have parents or all of they're all somehow left orphaned cuz their parents are dead or will die during the course of the story (The Final Fantasy III/VIII Principle).

[Evilkinggumby]

THIS IS THE BEST GAME U MAKE IN THIS YEAR:agree:

they won't do a persona 4 part 2 so knock it off ye sillybutt.

and they won't do it this year. I personally would rather they took time to develop anything new rather then bang it out in record time, but lack options, depth, or story.


Things I want to see in Persona 5:

Something weird happens... after I get off the subway train.

I'm a transfer student.

There are a string of murders I have to investigate, even though I'm a high school student or journalist and not a police officer or detective.

I meet a nice rich girl, some confidant atheletic guy, a class clown, some other chicks and some mysterious character. Maybe have an animal assist us in the adventure. One of these fellow adventurers will probably be gay. Since the matter wasn't addressed in P3, I'm just going to assume it was the dog.

Everyone will have some kind of personal issue they have to face and overcome. Surprisingly, they will never suffer from body issues, even though we constantly go out to eat every chance we get.

I will meet a strange man than no one else can see but me and a butterfly is stalking me.

There will be a moment where the girls put on kimonos or are caught wearing something that embarsses them.

I will be able to have multiple girlfriends completely oblivious to each other.

Either all the characters will have parents or all of they're all somehow left orphaned cuz their parents are dead or will die during the course of the story (The Final Fantasy III/VIII Principle).

:bs: lol yeah everything thats been done before.. that'd make a GREAT game... I smell yer sarcasm.. tick and full of bacony goodness :)

[Evilkinggumby]

Merged to previosu post.. No delete post option? ugh...

[Zacewing]

If P5 is going to have S.Links, make the characters' development during their S.Links carry over to the main storyline (i.e. certain lines of dialogue will be different depending on what level certain S.Links are). I hated how in P4 ALL of the characters' development took place during their S.Links. Yosuke is a perfect example of this. Over the course of his S.Link, he gets over Saki's death and matures, but then back in the main storyline he's still making immature sex jokes and ranting about Saki.

[Lee_Kay]

they won't do a persona 4 part 2 so knock it off ye sillybutt.

and they won't do it this year. I personally would rather they took time to develop anything new rather then bang it out in record time, but lack options, depth, or story.


READ MY IDEA IN PAGES 7

[Foobar]

In all seriousness, I wouldn't mind seeing them take a break from the school theme and featured some more grown-up characters. That's really the only interest I had in Persona 2 when the reissue came about, but I can wait for a full remake, really. Still mostly had high school kids in it, though.

[Evilkinggumby]

they won't do a persona 4 part 2 so knock it off ye sillybutt.

and they won't do it this year. I personally would rather they took time to develop anything new rather then bang it out in record time, but lack options, depth, or story.


READ MY IDEA IN PAGES 7

i have read yer ideas. want to really have an effect and have atlus worship your ability to make a game great? post on http://www.atlus.co.jp and enjoy. Then yer talkin to locals and stand a chance.

talking about yer stuff here is doing nothing for the franchise.

[Foobar]

If P5 is going to have S.Links, make the characters' development during their S.Links carry over to the main storyline (i.e. certain lines of dialogue will be different depending on what level certain S.Links are). I hated how in P4 ALL of the characters' development took place during their S.Links. Yosuke is a perfect example of this. Over the course of his S.Link, he gets over Saki's death and matures, but then back in the main storyline he's still making immature sex jokes and ranting about Saki.

Its easy to get over things when you're given time to heal and when the matter isn't brought back and rubbed in your face. But the death of friends and family isn't something you ever "get over," really, you just find away to distance yourself from it. Still hurts, though.

[Zacewing]

If P5 is going to have S.Links, make the characters' development during their S.Links carry over to the main storyline (i.e. certain lines of dialogue will be different depending on what level certain S.Links are). I hated how in P4 ALL of the characters' development took place during their S.Links. Yosuke is a perfect example of this. Over the course of his S.Link, he gets over Saki's death and matures, but then back in the main storyline he's still making immature sex jokes and ranting about Saki.

Its easy to get over things when you're given time to heal and when the matter isn't brought back and rubbed in your face. But the death of friends and family isn't something you ever "get over," really, you just find away to distance yourself from it. Still hurts, though.

Okay, I guess I worded that wrong.

What I meant was, he stops dwelling on Saki's death.

EDIT: Also, in P5, when you use multiple Personas in one battle, ALL of the Personas you used in that battle should gain EXP instead of just the one that you have set at the end of the battle.

[Evilkinggumby]

EDIT: Also, in P5, when you use multiple Personas in one battle, ALL of the Personas you used in that battle should gain EXP instead of just the one that you have set at the end of the battle.

actually I have thought that myself a few times in game. I liked the fact if you hotswapped characters in Final Fantasy x back in the day and they did at least 1 action they'd get some or equal exp. It made fights weird to want to get everyone in at least for a moment.. but if they did some type of exchange where depending on the amount of damage dealt, spells cast or something, it divied up your character's earned EXP amongst them that'd be a more practical method.

[Iris]

This is one place where I liked the P1/P2 way of doing experience -- character experience and ranking up Personae were separate from each other. Everybody gets experience and levels up just for being there, but to rank up your Personae (or get the stat-boosting mutations in P2), you have to actually use them.

I never much like "your experience depends on how much damage you do," because in P1, it always led to whoever had the best agility (for me, always MC) turning into a total experience hog. Though that's also a problem with balance (don't give me a Persona that can wipe out most random encounters at level 18, holy crap).

[blammo]

I can tell you what I dont want: Real time battles! It seems like these are fashionable and with Atlus getting a lot of attention with P3 and specifically P4 I hope they dont cave in and try to really broaden their market with some sort of real time mish mash.

As for what I do want:
Turn based!
True 'next gen' (whatever that means) by that I mean more weather (maybe snow in the winter!) more places to visit and so on.
I think it would look great cell shaded
More 'mature' story. P4 got a little light for my liking.
One Ending!
*rant*
When I put so many hours into an RPG I want one ending! Atlus should grow some balls and deliver the story they want the player to experience. Enough of this good ending / bad ending. Unless you can have so much flexibility in the main story that things change enough to make be feel like I am experiencing something new.... ONE ENDING! */rant*

[Evilkinggumby]

I can tell you what I dont want: Real time battles! It seems like these are fashionable and with Atlus getting a lot of attention with P3 and specifically P4 I hope they dont cave in and try to really broaden their market with some sort of real time mish mash.

As for what I do want:
Turn based!
True 'next gen' (whatever that means) by that I mean more weather (maybe snow in the winter!) more places to visit and so on.
I think it would look great cell shaded
More 'mature' story. P4 got a little light for my liking.
One Ending!
*rant*
When I put so many hours into an RPG I want one ending! Atlus should grow some balls and deliver the story they want the player to experience. Enough of this good ending / bad ending. Unless you can have so much flexibility in the main story that things change enough to make be feel like I am experiencing something new.... ONE ENDING! */rant*

Maybe I am wrong but my friend got digital devil summoner 2 and that is sorta real time battles.. granted the game style in general is a bit different then persona, but it seems to turn it into a button masher. :) and makes battles look a lot more tedious and repetitive.

I don't mind multi- endings if they are well thought out and each has some weight to it. The way they did the "good ending/bad ending" in p4 wasn't thrilling me because the bad endings were just..short.. crappy ones. didn't really do much aside from finish the story and send yer char on his way.

So if they did like, a good and bad ending, and there was a major difference to each, and each was something that applies to the story, has some polish to it and still manages to tie up loose ends, then great. I guess what I am getting at is having the long kickbutt "good" ending, and an almost-as-long bad ending.

and when you get to the spot before those pivotal choices that dictate which ending you get... give a frickin save prompt... none of this blind story "T" crap. :) (or design it so decisions made throughout the game have a weighing system that accumulates to a good or bad ending.. hehehe)

[blammo]

I can tell you what I dont want: Real time battles! It seems like these are fashionable and with Atlus getting a lot of attention with P3 and specifically P4 I hope they dont cave in and try to really broaden their market with some sort of real time mish mash.

As for what I do want:
Turn based!
True 'next gen' (whatever that means) by that I mean more weather (maybe snow in the winter!) more places to visit and so on.
I think it would look great cell shaded
More 'mature' story. P4 got a little light for my liking.
One Ending!
*rant*
When I put so many hours into an RPG I want one ending! Atlus should grow some balls and deliver the story they want the player to experience. Enough of this good ending / bad ending. Unless you can have so much flexibility in the main story that things change enough to make be feel like I am experiencing something new.... ONE ENDING! */rant*

Maybe I am wrong but my friend got digital devil summoner 2 and that is sorta real time battles..

and when you get to the spot before those pivotal choices that dictate which ending you get... give a frickin save prompt... none of this blind story "T" crap. :) (or design it so decisions made throughout the game have a weighing system that accumulates to a good or bad ending.. hehehe)

I am playing Devil Summoner 2 right now and am diggin it. But I just dont want persona to go that route.

I agree with you on the save points- that might break the illusion of the story but I am not going to spend 80+ hours to play the same game again to see a different ending.

[Lee_Kay]

MC Can be sick cause The Bad Weather or etc....

How About it^^?

[OverGAR]

Love the real battles of Devil Summoner but just in the adventure of Raidou. I don't want to see it in other games. Maybe something similar if it's a new spin-off saga.

But Persona have to be like the classic ones, like was always.

MC Can be sick cause The Bad Weather or etc....

How About it^^?

yeah...don't sound so bad, more realistic but I care more about a darker history first. That systems don't sound bad though

[IceCold_Assassin]

I think Persona 5 should go back to where the games were darker. Persona 4 didnt seem all that dark to me compared to the others until late in the game.

[trikz84]

few more ideas. i realy liked the music from p3 and p4 (backside of the tv, p3 fes, and burn my drread especialy.) i realy hope the music is still good. A wierd but possably good idea is for you to pick whitch persona or personae your exp goes too. s. links should acualy have point in the story rather than just being able to make personae of that arcana better. i also think that the special personae should return(izanagi, orpheus and orpheus telos izanagi-no-okami,thanatos.)but stronger of course.lastly, this game should also close the series.

[Tatsuya]

few more ideas. i realy liked the music from p3 and p4 (backside of the tv, p3 fes, and burn my drread especialy.) i realy hope the music is still good. A wierd but possably good idea is for you to pick whitch persona or personae your exp goes too. s. links should acualy have point in the story rather than just being able to make personae of that arcana better. i also think that the special personae should return(izanagi, orpheus and orpheus telos izanagi-no-okami,thanatos.)but stronger of course.lastly, this game should also close the series.

Considering most aren't even linked, it will never close the series, it could go on another hiatus though, which isn't entirely impossible.

[AbsyntheDelacroix]

I believe that only those who haven't played just P3 and P4 should be entitled to make suggestions for the next Persona. This thread is really getting out of hand with noobish statements. Lee Kay, I'm looking at you. P3 and P4 were about the same game, with minor improvements. I'd rather have a different game than another clone, thank you very much.