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DamageCity
02-26-2009, 04:01 AM
I know a lot of us have but there is a lot of new blood here who have only played 3 + 4.

Crabman
02-26-2009, 04:48 AM
No, I've only played P2:EP, P3 & P3 FES. I was interested in the series a couple years ago (but didn't have the money to shell out for P1/2), but when P3 came out I decided to take the plunge. Way, waaaaaaay different than I expected but I still love it (I was still expecting rumours and contacts XD). Meanwhile, EP probably surpassed my expectations with it's incredible characters. <3 Ulala & Katsuya:D

Enzo_Kensei
02-26-2009, 05:05 AM
Nope. Thats why I sooo excited about the remake in PSP. ^^

I heard that there will be a rumor system as opposed to the s. link in P3/P4.

DamageCity
02-26-2009, 05:15 AM
Nope. Thats why I sooo excited about the remake in PSP. ^^

I heard that there will be a rumor system as opposed to the s. link in P3/P4.


The rumor system is in P2 but the negotiation system is in P1 and P2.

Azriel Crusnik
02-26-2009, 06:20 AM
I did not even have enough money to buy a PS1 back then.

Terash Cas
02-26-2009, 06:22 AM
Played 10 minutes of it to check if teh game would boot.

Crabman
02-26-2009, 06:29 AM
I did not even have enough money to buy a PS1 back then.

I was a super Nintendo fanboy when P1 came out. Cut me and I'd probably bleed Virtual Boy red.

Oh man, so many memories :D

Emilio Morales
02-26-2009, 07:08 AM
Of course! :D The control was really awkward at first, but once you get use to it, it doesn't bother anymore.

Tatsuya Suou
02-26-2009, 07:27 AM
I wish I could say I did but no. I heard that when atlus first released it, they made a lot of edits to it which made it not as good as the second game. With that being said I can't wait for this to come over here since I doubt that atlus would have to edit it like the first time around.

Vincent Alexander
02-26-2009, 08:04 AM
Ya, bought and beat it a long time ago before I paid attention to Atlus. An OKay game, but nothing compared to P2.

Greyhawk
02-26-2009, 08:48 AM
I've had it for years, but could never finish it. The translation butchery always proved too much for me to bear. Nice to see a classic get the treatment it truely deserves.

hibiki_takami
02-26-2009, 08:55 AM
I played up to the part where you meet the guy who talked in ebonics back when Revelations: Persona was first released... which is not far.

FangzV
02-26-2009, 08:57 AM
I've only played 3 and 4, but I really want to try the first two. (Three if you count P2 as two seperate games.)

Sadly, though, it will take a while before I can actually play Persona 1, due to my significant lack of PSP. D':

cj iwakura
02-26-2009, 11:28 AM
Finished it to completion, true ending and all.


The final dungeon took me almost 20 hours.

I'm not sure I'll ever subject myself to the PS1 version ever again.

Hamel
02-26-2009, 11:58 AM
Never played it as I read about the sucky localization
will play it now that it gets a new one

freakcan
02-26-2009, 12:31 PM
Never played any Persona games. I didn't have a ps One back then, actually I didn't have any consoles during that generation. I will start P3: FES soon.

I don't have a PSP so I doubt I will play the remake.

Delition
02-26-2009, 12:44 PM
I've been trying to finish it, even before the remake was announced, but I can't bring myself to finish it. I'm at the part where you're trapped in the mall with the queen and the 10F dungeon.

jj984jj
02-26-2009, 12:48 PM
Far from completion, I look forward to getting my own copy with the PSP release.

unknown
02-26-2009, 01:04 PM
I started playing it, but I accidentally permanently recruited Brad when I wanted to recruit Ellen, so I kind of lost some motivation to play it >_>

Plus I'm stuck at some warehouse part.

I might start playing it again during the summer after I beat Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment first.

Kakizaki
02-26-2009, 01:16 PM
Picked it upon its U.S. release and completed it. I still play it to this day -- I finally received a card from Lips just a few months ago ;). One of my all time favorites even with the massive localization flaws.

Zephyr
02-26-2009, 01:21 PM
I honestly don't remember hearing about the game back then. I was probably stuck somewhere in Super NES-land.

So no, I haven't played Revelations: Persona.

Olethros
02-26-2009, 01:23 PM
Yup. Bought upon release and finished. Haven't played it again though. Always meant to but somehow never got around to it.

SickleCellAnemia
02-26-2009, 01:43 PM
Nope, Ive only played 3, 4 and 2 Innocent Sin so far, so I'm pretty excited to play the PSP version of 1.

mlisette23
02-26-2009, 01:57 PM
Haven't played it, but as many have already stated I'm looking forward to playing it this fall:D

VMan
02-26-2009, 02:06 PM
Finished it to completion, true ending and all.


The final dungeon took me almost 20 hours.

I'm not sure I'll ever subject myself to the PS1 version ever again.

Oh boy, I remember that it being a pain as well. The slow battle system didn't help matters, either.

Vincent Alexander
02-26-2009, 03:44 PM
SMT used to always have ridiculous end dungeons that made you want to break ####, which is what made those dungeons awesome. P3 and P4 really didn't for some reason though.

BaizDaza
02-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Nope. I own a Playstation 1, but back then I was more into action/adventure/platformer games. I always liked the box art of JRPGs, but that was about it. My parents would usually push me to choose other games they thought were more for my age. :sadness:

Majeh905
02-26-2009, 04:40 PM
Nope....like a lot of people, got into the series when P3 came out. I remember seeing the game used back when EB Games was still selling ps1 titles...and now I regret never purchasing it.

sonickenshin
02-26-2009, 06:13 PM
Nope. I missed out on it. The only game I played in the series is Perona 3 and I'm looking into 2 and 4.

Sanctine
02-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Surprisingly, no. I never had the chance to. The first Persona game I played was Persona 2: EP.

DamnedToBeFree
02-26-2009, 06:25 PM
Nope.

DamageCity
02-26-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm quite surprised at the results so far.

I'm going with Kakizaki, even with it's flaws Revelations: Persona was a great game.

Goodbye CG Philemon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWGBpRmP2Cw

Vincent Alexander
02-26-2009, 07:29 PM
Am I the only one who never cared for Philemon? Igor would bitch slap him into next year.

Philemon
02-26-2009, 07:58 PM
Did someone say they didn't care for Philemon :(?

Of course I played P1 every which way you can :D I'm super pumped about the PSP version, though I will miss the original music.

Sleepless Neko
02-26-2009, 09:27 PM
Nope, only watched my cousin play it.

Tatsuya
02-26-2009, 10:32 PM
I played it but couldn't finish it, the bad translation was too much for me.

SMT used to always have ridiculous end dungeons that made you want to break ####, which is what made those dungeons awesome. P3 and P4 really didn't for some reason though.

Oh man, that reminds me of gozen's cave, aka kandori's second resting place in persona 2:EP, to this day, no other dungeon has given me more trouble than that nightmare.

Vincent Alexander
02-26-2009, 11:38 PM
P2: EP
Gozen was tough enough. I forgot about that place...It was pretty horrid.

TheMagicHat
02-27-2009, 05:14 AM
Persona 1 was recommended to me by a friend, but it was so late that I never could find a copy that wasn't scratched all to hell. Made CG scenes difficult to get through for one thing. Hence, I never could finish it. Thank the deities for P2:EP and now for P1 for the PSP!

Crabman
02-27-2009, 06:15 AM
P2: EP
Gozen was tough enough. I forgot about that place...It was pretty horrid.

The Metals! Eikichi and his stupid Bloody Divorce attack...

Zachalmighty
02-27-2009, 06:36 AM
I have but the english translation and changes swayed me from ever completing it.

Enzo_Kensei
02-28-2009, 07:18 AM
Nope. Thats why I sooo excited about the remake in PSP. ^^

I heard that there will be a rumor system as opposed to the s. link in P3/P4.


The rumor system is in P2 but the negotiation system is in P1 and P2.

Oh I see. Thanks. Now I'm even more hyped! ^^

Sseklebeast
02-28-2009, 07:44 AM
I remember seeing previews and ads for Revelations: Persona but I did not buy it back then. Well I will not make that mistake again.. :)

Hraesvelgr
02-28-2009, 10:56 AM
Picked it upon its U.S. release and completed it. I still play it to this day -- I finally received a card from Lips just a few months ago ;). One of my all time favorites even with the massive localization flaws.

Same here, man, same here. This was my first Atlus game (did they release any other games in the US before this?) and I thought it was pretty awesome. At the time, I wasn't aware of the changes to the English version, but my opinion didn't really change when I found out. From there, I've gone on to buy and play through the Japanese release of the game, but I'll definitely be picking this up on release anyway.

Tatsuya
02-28-2009, 11:40 AM
Picked it upon its U.S. release and completed it. I still play it to this day -- I finally received a card from Lips just a few months ago ;). One of my all time favorites even with the massive localization flaws.

Same here, man, same here. This was my first Atlus game (did they release any other games in the US before this?) and I thought it was pretty awesome. At the time, I wasn't aware of the changes to the English version, but my opinion didn't really change when I found out. From there, I've gone on to buy and play through the Japanese release of the game, but I'll definitely be picking this up on release anyway.

I think last bible was released here first, then jack bros.

Kakizaki
02-28-2009, 11:40 AM
^They did release games in the U.S. prior to the first Persona.

edit - and a lot more titles than Tatsuya listed.

Tatsuya
02-28-2009, 11:44 AM
^They did release games in the U.S. prior to the first Persona.

edit - and a lot more titles than Tatsuya listed.

I was referring to megaten games, but were there any other megaten games released here before persona?

Kakizaki
02-28-2009, 12:09 PM
^I assumed he was referring to Atlus games in general. Maybe I misunderstood. The Last Bible title was released after Persona here.

Tatsuya
02-28-2009, 01:34 PM
^I assumed he was referring to Atlus games in general. Maybe I misunderstood. The Last Bible title was released after Persona here.

wow i didn't know that, i thought it was pre ps1 era when it came out.

mymerrilymemory
02-28-2009, 01:53 PM
got it when it came out... I think I was 13? it was too tough for me then ;A;

Flußkönig
03-01-2009, 08:36 AM
I bought Persona when it was first released, played through it, but didn't think it was all that great of a game. I am hoping that a better translation and a new interface will help improve my opinion.

I don't think I really understood what the game was about the first time I played due to some issues with the translation. I have tried to play through the game a few times since then, but I always end up losing interest about half way through.

Foryth
03-01-2009, 01:15 PM
Nope. I often came close to buying it back then(it was going around 15$ used damnit!) but alas I always picked something else.

LadyRayna
03-02-2009, 09:28 AM
Unfortunately no. The butchered localisation always prevented me from buying it.

Samarecarm
03-02-2009, 06:49 PM
I have never been close to playing the original Persona, but I'm ecstatic about the new one particularly because Shouji Meguro is both composing and directing it (which blindsided me), since he's quickly become one of my favorite videogame soundtrack composers. Although, that is not to disrespect the original soundtrack, because it was probably very good.

slayn
03-02-2009, 07:08 PM
Yes, but not to completion. I'm debating on whether or not to run through it before this new version hits, because I know I'll never go back once a superior localization is available.

RayFoxSith
03-02-2009, 09:29 PM
Never got to play. It's a good thing this announcement came, because I was thinking about buying it if I ever saw it cheap. It's really expensive in some places. >.>

MrBubbles
03-03-2009, 10:51 AM
Nope, but I got a PSP for the remake.

Although I have read the original Persona 1 is legendary for it's localization, on-par with Symphony of the Night's script.

WHAT IS A MAN?

Elizabeth
03-03-2009, 12:23 PM
No, I became an Atlus fan far too late and I never owned a PS1; I bought a PS2 after I finally got fed up with that system getting all the great games.

I still need to finish Persona 2 but I want to get the players' guide; I'm ashamed by how often I whip out a guide while playing MegaTen games but after three years of getting made while playing Nocturne I finally got a guide off of eBay and got the TDE.

Oh, and because I'm super curious, when the PSP version comes out will someone do a comparison between that and the PS1 release? I want to see just how awful the PS1 one really was.

Delition
03-03-2009, 12:43 PM
^I assumed he was referring to Atlus games in general. Maybe I misunderstood. The Last Bible title was released after Persona here.

wow i didn't know that, i thought it was pre ps1 era when it came out.

Revelations came out 3 years after Persona 1, and Jack Bros. came out 1 year before Persona 1 making it the first SMT game in the U.S..

If I had a "The More You Know" picture, I'd use it now.

</useless info>

Lupinzero
03-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Unfortunately I have not played the first one. :very_sad: I only played the third cause my friend brought it then I played it and that was all I needed.

dungeon_man
03-04-2009, 07:19 PM
I've played it briefly through unscrupulous means, but it didn't work well. I don't intend to pay $120 for a used copy of a poor localization on eBay, so this PSP remake is my only hope unless I luck out in a pawn shop somewhere.

Of course, this puts me in the uncomfortable position of needing a PSP, so I'm still on the fence. Bring Growlanser and I'll buy both games.

dunno001
03-06-2009, 01:53 PM
Well, I have played it, but it was a friend's copy, thus I never got to finish it. I do have to say that it makes me think about getting a PSP, but it (the system) really doesn't suit my style of play...

The Random hero
03-09-2009, 03:32 PM
i never got to play the original bu i am definitly going to get the psp remake

Aegis Ages
03-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Yes I have only played 3 and 4.
Never heard of Persona until 3's opening animation sucked me in!
It was so beautiful!

SlyStrife
03-15-2009, 06:54 PM
Yes, played it to completion and loved every single minute of it. I was a little bummed when I heard about the content that we lost out on, but I quickly imported a Japanese copy and proceeded to complete that as well. I was even crazy enough to try and do the Maximum Ambrosia route for the Snow Queen Quest. XD

Regardless I still treasure my US copy, and it is one of the rarest and most expensive PSX RPGs I own.

Kazander13
03-15-2009, 08:59 PM
New blood here myself, but yes I own and love all of the Personas. The first got me hooked for a ridiculous amount of time. The only other game I played at the time was Castlevania SoTN. In fact I can't see the word without still hearing one of the characters shout the word in my head.


It was the first game that had melee, guns, bows, magic, summoning all wrapped in one for me, not counting Phantasy Star which as more of a futuristic setting.

xHaseox
03-16-2009, 08:15 AM
Never had the urge to pay hundreds of dollars for a game widely stated to be past it's prime/never had a prime.

I'll be picking up the PSP version day one, but I'm not expecting too much from it personally.

slayn
03-16-2009, 08:32 AM
I hope that's hyperbole. I've bought the game three times, complete copies each time, and haven't paid more than ~$120 or so TOTAL. And I'm not getting sweet deals from friends, I'm buying from eBay and whatnot.

Sei
03-16-2009, 09:08 AM
In so far as the last dungeon and real ending missing us version could be completed, I did. Optional dungeon and all the strongest personas too.

My brother thought the end of the world was going to happen while I played this game (he had a nightmare to that effect) so I had to sneak playing it when he wasn't around, too.

It was fairly awesome for its time, wouldn't play the US version again, though.

Looking forward to the PSP one.

Inzaghi
03-16-2009, 11:09 AM
In so far as the last dungeon and real ending missing us version could be completed, I did. Optional dungeon and all the strongest personas too.

I don't understand your references to the "missing" ending here and in the other thread. Though the Snow Queen Quest was cut, as far as I know there's no missing content from the main story... I've gotten the "real" ending where Avidea World is the last dungeon most of the times I played the game.

Sei
03-16-2009, 12:51 PM
In so far as the last dungeon and real ending missing us version could be completed, I did. Optional dungeon and all the strongest personas too.

I don't understand your references to the "missing" ending here and in the other thread. Though the Snow Queen Quest was cut, as far as I know there's no missing content from the main story... I've gotten the "real" ending where Avidea World is the last dungeon most of the times I played the game.

Hmm, I refer to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrCOrUZSIjQ&feature=related and to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxgCnM7MfA&feature=related neither of which were in the US version as far as I know, hmm, maybe describing them as a "real" ending depends on perspective but there is an ending (or rather 2) and a chunk of gameplay missing from the US version.

In both threads I referred to the above (Snow queen quest) which I hope is going to be in the PSP version. Excuse my clunky previous post!

Links may contain spoilers as they direct to the endings of said quest, so don't click if you don't want to see them.

Inzaghi
03-16-2009, 03:06 PM
Hmm, I refer to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrCOrUZSIjQ&feature=related and to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxgCnM7MfA&feature=related neither of which were in the US version as far as I know, hmm, maybe describing them as a "real" ending depends on perspective but there is an ending (or rather 2) and a chunk of gameplay missing from the US version.

In both threads I referred to the above (Snow queen quest) which I hope is going to be in the PSP version. Excuse my clunky previous post!

Links may contain spoilers as they direct to the endings of said quest, so don't click if you don't want to see them.

Oh, I see. I think you don't quite understand what the Snow Queen quest is, maybe? It's an alternate path through the game, not something that comes at the end of the main story. I was confused by you referring to it as the "real" ending, because the main story has both a normal and a "real" ending, both of which are present in the US version. Since both of the videos you pasted are from the alternate Snow Queen quest, yeah, they aren't in the PSX version.

Sei
03-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Oh, I was sort of thinking about it in a Chrysler building from Parasite Eve sort of way.

At any rate, here is where you say: "Rest assured, all content on the Japanese release of Persona psp will be included in the US release sans maybe voices" :P

Zacewing
03-30-2009, 11:56 AM
I never played it because I didn't know it existed until a couple years ago.

Also, the localization is horrible and I've heard the game was pretty bad to begin with.

Kakizaki
03-30-2009, 02:51 PM
^The game wasn't bad. Just a bad localization.

Zacewing
03-31-2009, 10:28 AM
Really? A lot of people on another forum I visit frequently said stuff like "Persona 1 has so much wrong with it, it would be better for Atlus to put their money towards making a new game." and stuff like that.

Hopefully if this one does well enough they'll remake both Persona 2 games for PSP.

Kakizaki
04-01-2009, 03:25 PM
^The game itself was fine. It was the localization that hurt it.

AbsyntheDelacroix
04-10-2009, 01:17 AM
I'm playing it right now, and I'm loving every minute of it. Except, well, the translation. Great game overall.

vxicepickxv
04-10-2009, 10:07 AM
No, I never managed to beat it, but it does play on my PS3, so I still have time.

Zeik
04-20-2009, 10:41 AM
Yeah, I've played it. It was technically even my first MegaTen game. I honestly didn't care for it much though, it's probably one of my least favorite games in the franchise.

However this "remake" seems to fixing many of the issues I had with the original, so I'm still looking forward to it. At it's core Persona 1 could have been a solid game, so hopefully this remake can solve the problems the original had and capitalize on that.

Isshin_Ryori
04-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Nah, haven't even played Persona 2 yet, ow was it that P2 have 2 titles? Innocent sin and eternal punishment? i really dont get it...

Shinji_Ryori
04-21-2009, 07:04 PM
Nope, my ps broked before persona 1 was released, good thing atlus will making the persona for psp. I just wish it has better graphics than the old one.^^

But of course, it will be better...I'm sure of it.

Knaaks
04-22-2009, 11:28 AM
I rented it when it first came out, because I was really in to RPGs on the Genesis and Super Nintendo, but I didn't really get it cuz I was, like, 14 at the time, so I played it till I got stuck and then returned it :(
I'm really looking forward to the new one, ever since I played P3, I was itching to try out the first one again, the new translation and everything should make it way better! I still wanna get my hands on a copy of it for the PS1 though, just to have it!

Bass GS
04-30-2009, 11:27 AM
Yep but I lost the Save Data for it and I was near the end too, this may have also started the cycle of NEVER finishing ANY of the Persona games that have come out

Vicious1915
04-30-2009, 11:43 AM
I saw and ad for it in a gaming magazine in '96, and my friend bought it when it was released. I played and played it, never finishing. In 2003, I was browsing through Game X-Change and found a copy in perfect condition for $30. I picked it up, took it home, erased my old save, and started over. I finally beat it in 2008. After almost 12 years of playing that game, I FINALLY beat it, good ending and all.

Son1x
04-30-2009, 11:47 AM
I've only played around 4-5 hours of it. I then found out the remake is coming to PSP (this was around half a year ago) so I stopped. Now I'm waiting for the remake to hit US (or Eu if its faster, but I doubt that...).

Pibbman
04-30-2009, 01:33 PM
Currently playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin, but once I finish that I guess I'll shell out the ridiculous amount of cash those bloodsuckers over at eBay want for P2: Eternal Punishment.

Then that just leaves Persona PSP left for me to play, and I'll have played the entire series.

I've only played around 4-5 hours of it. I then found out the remake is coming to PSP (this was around half a year ago) so I stopped. Now I'm waiting for the remake to hit US (or Eu if its faster, but I doubt that...).

You must have inside sources to find out about it half a year ago, considering news about the game only came out like 2 months ago. :P

Son1x
05-01-2009, 12:24 AM
Wow really? My memory really is bad o.O, I though first info came around the new year.
I certainly remember playing it around new year. I guess I must have stopped playing it for some time or something.

Hitoshura
05-01-2009, 07:34 AM
Currently playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin, but once I finish that I guess I'll shell out the ridiculous amount of cash those bloodsuckers over at eBay want for P2: Eternal Punishment.

Then that just leaves Persona PSP left for me to play, and I'll have played the entire series.

I've only played around 4-5 hours of it. I then found out the remake is coming to PSP (this was around half a year ago) so I stopped. Now I'm waiting for the remake to hit US (or Eu if its faster, but I doubt that...).

You must have inside sources to find out about it half a year ago, considering news about the game only came out like 2 months ago. :P

Hopefully that'll learn you to pay close attention to the deals thread, if you haven't already :P

I managed to snag a copy for $40 back when GQD did all those reprints.

Pibbman
05-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Currently playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin, but once I finish that I guess I'll shell out the ridiculous amount of cash those bloodsuckers over at eBay want for P2: Eternal Punishment.

Then that just leaves Persona PSP left for me to play, and I'll have played the entire series.

I've only played around 4-5 hours of it. I then found out the remake is coming to PSP (this was around half a year ago) so I stopped. Now I'm waiting for the remake to hit US (or Eu if its faster, but I doubt that...).

You must have inside sources to find out about it half a year ago, considering news about the game only came out like 2 months ago. :P

Hopefully that'll learn you to pay close attention to the deals thread, if you haven't already :P

I managed to snag a copy for $40 back when GQD did all those reprints.

I saw it when it was on sale back then at amazon, the fact was that I didn't have any money to buy it at the time.

lrdkyron
05-01-2009, 10:04 AM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

Pibbman
05-01-2009, 12:25 PM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

That's good. Personally I'm sick of all the FPS coming out. I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

My friends argue that it requires "skills", whereas the games I play require nothing according to them. I tell them it requires "strategy", but they don't care about that.

Then I have dreams of being a master tactician, and watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Brains > Brawns

Vicious1915
05-01-2009, 01:49 PM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

That's good. Personally I'm sick of all the FPS coming out. I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

My friends argue that it requires "skills", whereas the games I play require nothing according to them. I tell them it requires "strategy", but they don't care about that.

Then I have dreams of being a master tactician, and watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Brains > Brawns

RPGs take a certain amount of strategy, dependent upon the game, a higher vocabulary, and an imagination. When it comes down to it, if it ever mattered at all (say in actual warfare), your skills as a strategist would translate to a battlefield situation. Not to say you'd instantly be a military strategist, but you'd have an idea at least. Now place them on the battlefield and see if pressing the "x" button still works for them and their skills. =P

Pibbman
05-01-2009, 02:37 PM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

That's good. Personally I'm sick of all the FPS coming out. I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

My friends argue that it requires "skills", whereas the games I play require nothing according to them. I tell them it requires "strategy", but they don't care about that.

Then I have dreams of being a master tactician, and watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Brains > Brawns

RPGs take a certain amount of strategy, dependent upon the game, a higher vocabulary, and an imagination. When it comes down to it, if it ever mattered at all (say in actual warfare), your skills as a strategist would translate to a battlefield situation. Not to say you'd instantly be a military strategist, but you'd have an idea at least. Now place them on the battlefield and see if pressing the "x" button still works for them and their skills. =P

Obviously there isn't any 'x' buttons, but you're right it depends on what type of RPG you're playing too. In my case, my favorite RPG genre is Strategy RPGs, followed closely by the general turn-based RPGs, and Action RPGs in dead last. I think I'd be okay. :D

Kakizaki
05-02-2009, 11:31 AM
^I don't really care for FPS either, but I think both of you are making some rather large assumptions here.

FPS still require a fair amount of strategy. Do they require the same sort of thought processes that are employed while playing rpgs? No, not really, but that doesn't mean FPS, especially multiplayer FPS, don't require tactical / strategic skill and planning.

As for the vocab and imagination comment, that is pretty off base as well. I'm not really even going to bother explaining why.

Basically you guys are doing the exact thing that annoys you both. Easily dismissing a genre because it doesn't appeal to you.

your skills as a strategist would translate to a battlefield situation. Not to say you'd instantly be a military strategist, but you'd have an idea at least.No they wouldn't - real life isn't turn based. You realize your comment regarding strategy is like saying "hey, you play FPS a lot. Your in-game skills of using weapons and understanding how to set up ambushes translates to real life combat." That sounds ridiculous.


I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

It isn't just Americans who are obsessed and it is hardly due to FPS. Strange to make a comment about killing and then say this:

watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Anyway, I'm not trying to come down on you two, but the direction this conversation has taken is pretty silly.

Blizz
05-02-2009, 12:52 PM
I have played Persona Revelations, Persona Innocent Sin, Persona Eternal Punishment, Persona 3 FES and Persona 4. Sadly haven't finished them all.

Vicious1915
05-02-2009, 02:19 PM
^I don't really care for FPS either, but I think both of you are making some rather large assumptions here.

FPS still require a fair amount of strategy. Do they require the same sort of thought processes that are employed while playing rpgs? No, not really, but that doesn't mean FPS, especially multiplayer FPS, don't require tactical / strategic skill and planning.

As for the vocab and imagination comment, that is pretty off base as well. I'm not really even going to bother explaining why.

Basically you guys are doing the exact thing that annoys you both. Easily dismissing a genre because it doesn't appeal to you.

your skills as a strategist would translate to a battlefield situation. Not to say you'd instantly be a military strategist, but you'd have an idea at least.No they wouldn't - real life isn't turn based. You realize your comment regarding strategy is like saying "hey, you play FPS a lot. Your in-game skills of using weapons and understanding how to set up ambushes translates to real life combat." That sounds ridiculous.


I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

It isn't just Americans who are obsessed and it is hardly due to FPS. Strange to make a comment about killing and then say this:

watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Anyway, I'm not trying to come down on you two, but the direction this conversation has taken is pretty silly.

True. You're right. It was mostly a consolation post, yet I will say this: The people I know personally, and have encountered in the public, that play FPS use the same argument that Pibbman's friends use. I wouldn't say it's so off-base that an RPG, which is primarily dialogue, requires good vocabulary skills, and lots of imagination. If you don't have the imagination, then it seems to me that a "fantasy" game wouldn't appeal to you. There are exceptions to the imagination required for a FPS, such as "Gears of War." My point is that most FPS are about a bunch of military guys fighting in a war against other people. That, to me, does not require imagination, and I seriously doubt that it challenges ones' language skills, either. So, your point is made. Mine was simply that I tire of hearing the same idiots' reasons why games WE choose to play don't require any sort of skill at all.

~P.S.~ Regarding strategy, I said you'd have an "idea," which is a pretty broad term.

Kakizaki
05-02-2009, 03:11 PM
My point is that most FPS are about a bunch of military guys fighting in a war against other people.Again, this is a generalization.

I would say a very healthy percentage of rpgs use a medieval fantasy setting. Within this, there are many, many cliches present. I don't find them all that original or imaginative.

Something doesn't have to have a 'fantasy' type context to require imagination. Look at the Metal Gear series as an example. People that have been around here for a while know about the historical issues I have with MGS3. That being said, it took a fair amount of imagination to mesh real world events and settings to make a interesting fictional story. Yeah, that isn't a first person shooter, but I do know of a fair number of FPS that have quite interesting and intricate stories.

And to be honest, what are knights, paladins, mages, etc anyway? Basically just 'military guys' in a medieval fantasy setting. I am kind of taking your statement out of context here and I understand what you are attempting to get at, but I heartily disagree. Minimal, yet effective storytelling is why many of us became interested in the older SMT titles years ago.

~P.S.~ Regarding strategy, I said you'd have an "idea," which is a pretty broad term.That you did, but it was also beside the point. I think most people would realize outflanking your opponent (whether they understand the definition of the term or not) is important even if they had never played a strategy game.

Anyway, if you guys want to continue this, do so in another thread - feel free to make a rpg vs fps thread in the off topic area.

reason1313
05-06-2009, 02:41 AM
I still have my Persona 1 and Persona 2: E.P. US released versions. Still not happy we got jacked on Innocent Sin.

ShinMog
05-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Yeah, I loved my original Persona game. I loved the whole concept, and have been an avid fan of Atlus since then. The one thing that I recall about this game is that I would spend a ton of time in the casino trying to get a bunch of money early to give me an edge. Those were frustrating times... but I do recall that the end result of that was me just demolishing everything with Almighty attacks. I forget the persona I used, tho Mark was the major Offensive guy.

kerestel
05-10-2009, 05:07 PM
I rented 1 back in the day and got up to the final dungeon before having to return it. Last year I found someone to borrow it from and was able to play through the good ending.

Pibbman
05-10-2009, 06:05 PM
I rented 1 back in the day and got up to the final dungeon before having to return it. Last year I found someone to borrow it from and was able to play through the good ending.

So did you just use your old save or what?

kerestel
05-10-2009, 06:07 PM
I rented 1 back in the day and got up to the final dungeon before having to return it. Last year I found someone to borrow it from and was able to play through the good ending.

So did you just use your old save or what?

No, I started back from scratch. When I rented it originally, I only had 1 memory card so I deleted files to make room for more.

Michael_sama
05-22-2009, 10:17 PM
The original Persona is my all time favorite RPG of all time. I beat it several times, though finding out later to be totally jacked because the game was altered heavily and the Snow Queen quest was removed. Thankfully, I have Altus to thank to bringing back this classic, and my personal favorite, with all the goodies back inside.

I do miss the good old sword (melee) and gun attacks of the first Persona that were originally part of the Shin Megami Tensei series. The rifle ruled over all the other character's guns.

Thank goodness it is returning. By the way, I still have the original. Kick it! (Obscure reference, huzzah!)

Iris
05-23-2009, 11:15 AM
Kick it! (Obscure reference, huzzah!)

I have to say, I'll be really sad if Brad doesn't still say "kick it!" in the port's localization. I don't know why but it just gives me this irrational moment of glee every time he does it.

(Brad, Brown, ffffff whatever. HE'LL ALWAYS BE BRAD IN MY HEART.)

Nephlabobo
05-27-2009, 09:14 AM
I got both P1 and P2 EP on Ebay about 6 or 7 years ago for $50. (For both of them! :D )

Aizuku
05-31-2009, 10:43 AM
Unfortunately no. And after learing about how the translation was unfaithful to the Japanese release, I've lost all reason to play it once I've learned about the remake.
I will play the remake. I just want to know if it will be UMD-only or also downloadable.
I'm not sure if I should get a PSP or wait for the UMD-less PSP GO. But if Persona is UMD-only I'll get a PSP.

Sorry if I'm off topic :)

Son1x
06-01-2009, 10:47 AM
I just hope its not DD only. I hate not being able to hold a copy of the game in my hand.

Foobar
06-01-2009, 02:21 PM
I still have my Persona 1 and Persona 2: E.P. US released versions. Still not happy we got jacked on Innocent Sin.

Whole thing that stopped me from looking into getting Persona and Persona 2 after I had played Persona 3 FES and 4. I would have liked to have experienced them in that form, but the fact that neither game was truly complete (and Americanized too hard in localization) turned me off from getting either of them.

I just don't think photoshopping out culture and withholding content are good practices. I'm glad to see that Atlus has changed, though, and that we will finally be seeing Persona's gameplay and story in its intended form.

I just hope a Persona 2 remake including both Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment are in the works so I can have a complete set. :D

King9999
06-01-2009, 02:57 PM
Yes. I'm looking forward to the remake, just to see what Atlus does with the game. The localization might have been bad, but it's been so long that I don't remember. What I do remember is that combat was sometimes frustrating. It's bad enough that there are random encounters, but throw in enemies like the toilet demons, and it's enough to break your controller.

I'm curious...will some of the enemies be toned down?

Iris
06-02-2009, 12:08 AM
I've been playing the port on normal and wishing I'd set it to hard. Don't know if there'll be any adjustments to the difficulty made in localization, but I'm not finding it any harder than I found the PS1 version.

pktazn
06-03-2009, 01:33 PM
No, but I wanted to play it... my friend has it on an emulator though so I've seen how the game is played.

Aizuku
06-05-2009, 05:59 AM
I just hope a Persona 2 remake including both Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment are in the works so I can have a complete set. :D

I hope so too :)

As I understand Persona 2 is a sequel to Persona?

DamageCity
06-05-2009, 06:44 AM
A little piece of me always cries when I read these threads.

dungeon_man
06-05-2009, 08:58 AM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

That's good. Personally I'm sick of all the FPS coming out. I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

My friends argue that it requires "skills", whereas the games I play require nothing according to them. I tell them it requires "strategy", but they don't care about that.

Then I have dreams of being a master tactician, and watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Brains > Brawns


I've played shmups and first-person-shooters that required more strategy than your average RPG. RPGs seem all tactical and strategic because they give you so many options, but the correct course of action is often blatantly obvious. A decision with only one obvious choice is not really a decision. For example, a game might seem to have lots of depth because there are 100 different swords, but there's no real decision making involved as you always just use the strongest sword you can obtain.

This isn't the case with all RPGs. Nocturne, for example, had a lot of depth to the decision making processes and removed most superficial decisions. (Ie, no assortment of weapons and armors to routinely upgrade from town to town. Choice of spell actually impacts combat outcome instead of just offering different animations.)

Anyway, you'll get further in life if you don't act like you're some sort of superior brainy being who doesn't play FPS like the primal beasts around him.

dungeon_man
06-05-2009, 09:05 AM
double post

Moé
06-05-2009, 09:13 AM
I was given a copy of persona 4 by a good friend, because I was tired of playing shooters and survival horrors. I am really enjoying the game and I might actually go out looking for the others in the series.

That's good. Personally I'm sick of all the FPS coming out. I don't understand my fellow americans obsession with guns and killing.

My friends argue that it requires "skills", whereas the games I play require nothing according to them. I tell them it requires "strategy", but they don't care about that.

Then I have dreams of being a master tactician, and watching them get slaughtered on the battlefield because my strategy of flanking/ambush/etc/etc is owning them. I wake up smiling.

Brains > Brawns
Team Fortress 2, S4, Quake, Unreal.



Also, Persona PSP port edited the soundtrack around what

KaoruMikagami
06-08-2009, 06:34 PM
i never play it and i never found it when i buy games

bleeps
06-11-2009, 01:04 PM
I still have my Persona 1 and Persona 2: E.P. US released versions.
Me too! Anyone know if/how the PSP version will affect the value of the original US release copies?

Kakizaki
06-11-2009, 02:41 PM
^How would anyone know how to predict that?

Zengaku
06-28-2009, 11:35 PM
i have played it but only the beginning and it was pretty good i might rent it again since there is a video rental place near me that still lets you rent ps1 games i am hoping they might start to sell them soon so i might buy it and play it some more or just wait until the psp remake and pick that up when i can

Baka-san
07-01-2009, 03:10 PM
Nope i could never find a copy of it...

bullman422
07-02-2009, 09:10 AM
I remember Persona 1 in the preview section of my gaming magazine and it caught my interest. I bought Persona 1 the day it came out and immediately fell in love with it. Granted it was badly Americanized and translated but even that wasn't enough to ruin the game for me. I hope the PSP remake sells well enough for Atlus to think about releasing it for the PS2 at some point.

Yeah I know. Wishful thinking at its worst!!

Andy
07-02-2009, 12:38 PM
Friend of mine rented it and said it was pretty good. I never bothered to play it. I did nothing but play Squaresoft stuff back then.

Elegnaim
07-03-2009, 07:02 PM
I really loved the first Persona. It has a more traditional demon fusion system, kind of, and less "collect X number of cards" like Persona 2 has. It also felt more surreal to me than Persona 2 did. Again, not really sure why, but the entire game just had this really dreamlike quality to it.

Needed way more save points though.

ProudClod
07-04-2009, 12:05 AM
I'm personally making sure that every single one of my friends that has a PSP buys this game. We need good sales. I want an Innocent Sin remake!

Kuma-san
07-04-2009, 07:05 AM
My parents got me this game (because of the K-A rating).
It was good, but I stopped playing when I got to the hospital. The screaming in the background gave me nightmares.

CyberAly
07-15-2009, 04:09 PM
I never played the first one. Actually, the only game i've played is P4, which is brilliant, but of course i'm not expecting P1 to be very similar.

Still, i'm the kind of guy who always gets into a series. I can't play a sequel without then going back and playing all the old ones or others in the series.

I've got my work cut out if I want to do that for the whole Shin Megami Tensei series, so I might just play the old Personas and future SMT games.

Devil Survivor for example.

It's not out in Europe yet though.

I do ramble.

vincent_vincent
07-15-2009, 09:09 PM
Played and finished all Persona games in Order , the first trilogy was brilliant .

Crow T. Robot
07-15-2009, 09:13 PM
Ya, bought and beat it a long time ago before I paid attention to Atlus. An OKay game, but nothing compared to P2.
Yeah P2 is very good. I also played the first one, played all of them. P1 is like over 100 bucks online.

D:

Red
07-16-2009, 03:02 AM
No, sadly not. I guess I'm one of those "new Persona fans" who is too dumb to even beat Persona 3. However, both Persona 3 and 4 were incredible experiences, and if SMT: Persona is anything remotely like either of those games, it bums me out that I missed out on it, and I'll definitely pounce on the chance to play it.

Njdeadhead
07-16-2009, 06:07 PM
I have not played it yet. I just got into SMT games so the only one that I played or playing is Nocturne. Witch is grate so far. I will be getting Persona 1 for the psp the day it comes out.

Romancer_Zero
07-18-2009, 08:48 AM
I pop it in my PsOne every now and then, but I've never felt compelled to complete it.
The encounter rates are just a bit to high for me...

Kakizaki
07-18-2009, 09:33 AM
^Really? I believe the North American version actually had its encounter rate reduced from the Japanese version.

Zacewing
07-19-2009, 11:02 AM
^Really? I believe the North American version actually had its encounter rate reduced from the Japanese version.

Yeah, it did, and battles gave more EXP to compensate.

Kakizaki
07-19-2009, 11:38 AM
^Yeah, I was aware of that. ;)

X-Grunger
07-21-2009, 10:58 AM
im in this moment buying persona 1 for PSX, i need a psp right now btw, to play this remake, obviously, after the psx version

Hellel
07-21-2009, 07:35 PM
Nah, Persona 3 was the first I played..but Persona 2 Eternal Punishment was the first I saw.

Kyuketsukimiyu
07-22-2009, 04:40 AM
I haven't yet, but I really want to. It's to the point that this game has made me firm in my decision to buy a PSP. I'm crossing my fingers hoping that Persona 2 gets the same treatment.
This has certainly made me glad I didn't import the game yet. I was looking into it when I ran into the announcement. I can read Japanese, but honestly I'm mostly glad I get to relax and save a lot of money.

Kesseki
07-22-2009, 05:25 PM
No, I haven't. My first (legal) SMT game was Persona 2, which... I still haven't finished. -_-u

Tello, the Hark!
07-22-2009, 07:52 PM
3&4 ala fin, but am anxious to play 2, I played one for an hour and felt noxious, but the PSP release looks to be big relief in the eyesore that the PS left.

lewness
07-23-2009, 02:45 AM
I was young back then and thought it was scary, so I didn't play it. Several Silent Hill releases later (and also P3/4) my eyes are opened into the goodness I missed so much back then.

On a slightly different topic, I'm also one of the people who have played Suikoden 5 to bits and yet haven't finished the first and second one. Oh, I'm such a heretic!!!

Blackwing Dragon
07-23-2009, 02:54 AM
Triedi t ages ago on the PS 1 and I turned it away in disgust...
I'm sorry but Persona 1 is the single biggest failure Atlus ever made. And so far the only one.
An ugly, boring game with incredibly confusing world map "navigation", if you can even call it that.
I honestly never even beat the second dungeon. SINCE I NEVER FOUND IT..

Fuyukaze
07-23-2009, 01:12 PM
Played the first, loved it, but never beat it. Think I got around half way. Eventualy sold it during my inbetween jobs phase. Got second but have yet to play it. Played 3 and got around 1/3 thru it but never went back. Havent even opened 4 yet.

Kakizaki
07-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Triedi t ages ago on the PS 1 and I turned it away in disgust...
I'm sorry but Persona 1 is the single biggest failure Atlus ever made. And so far the only one.
An ugly, boring game with incredibly confusing world map "navigation", if you can even call it that.
I honestly never even beat the second dungeon. SINCE I NEVER FOUND IT..

Never understood how people could have such a hard time with the navigation in this game. It was pretty easy to pop up the map and clearly see locations labeled.

This game was hardly Atlus's largest failure.

Blackwing Dragon
07-24-2009, 01:43 AM
Compared to what it could have been, what 2 was and what 3 and 4 are now, it was a bare-boned game that was broken and horrible.Trust me, I'm an avid gamer. So while this WAS ......five, or six years ago I beleive? I tried it. I tried to like it, it was Persona for hell sakes! I played it after P2 : EP which I LOVED to death at the tmie, but I ended up totally hating it.

Edit : Hating Persona 1 that is

Kakizaki
07-24-2009, 12:04 PM
^I don't need to trust you. I purchased the first Person when it came in North America in December of 1996, and I have played it for well over 300 hours.

Bare bones compared to P3 and P4? MIP had more spells, demons, demon negotiations, equipment, varied locales and dungeons, and allowed full control of your party. Yeah it didn't have the social simulation aspect, but in many ways MIP was a much more complex game than both P3 and P4.

Blackwing Dragon
07-25-2009, 03:49 AM
Social simulation was a bonus. I wasn't yay or meh about it, it was there, and it did help you out in some ways.
I absolutely, totally despise persona 1, and the fact that you accintally liked it isn't going to change that.
Remember, good things and bad things still sell. Good things sell for quality. Bad things sell because people are clueless.

SlyStrife
07-25-2009, 08:17 AM
Good things sell for quality. Bad things sell because people are clueless.

I really don't want to start an argument (I haven't been on these forums in awhile), but this statement really managed to get me irritated. Forgive me if I take this the wrong way but it kinda sounds like you're claiming that everyone that likes MIP is clueless? Now how exactly does that work? Whether or not you like a game is strictly opinionated but having the audacity to say that the people who differ from you are clueless is just low.

You haven't even conjured up any good reasons as to why you don't like the game (Yes, I have read your previous posts). The only reason you outright stated was that you didn't like the navigation system, and yes I agree it did need a few tweaks. But you made out like it was unplayable and that you "Never found the second dungeon" which I find highly unlikely unless you're illiterate, which I'm sure we can both agree that you're not. It's not that hard to find your way around the map, sounds to me like you just got fed up with the random encounters and turned the game off.

The game is hardly ugly, and what exactly is boring about it? You gave no reasons what so ever to support yourself, it sounds like you're saying that just to be different from the people who constantly support the game. MIP in my opinion has graphics that are very good. For one, the graphics aren't pixelated, the animations are smooth, and I could go on. Sure the 3D parts weren't too impressive, but you have to keep in mind that this was 1996, games weren't as advanced and some companies were just learning how to play around with with the new 3D hardware; of course it's not gonna look as good as later games, I don't even see how you can compare them at all seeing as it's two totally different time periods. It really irks me when people say that this game is ugly and don't even back themselves up.

You really had no right to say what you did, I will flat out say that I don't care for Persona 3 or 4. However, I'm not gonna say that people who like them are "clueless". If you like it, fine, if you don't, fine; no need to go about degrading the rest of us.

Inzaghi
07-25-2009, 10:20 AM
Social simulation was a bonus. I wasn't yay or meh about it, it was there, and it did help you out in some ways.
I absolutely, totally despise persona 1, and the fact that you accintally liked it isn't going to change that.
Remember, good things and bad things still sell. Good things sell for quality. Bad things sell because people are clueless.

Tone it down, please. Criticize the game all you like, but Kaki did not "accidentally" like P1 and there's no call to generally insult fans of the game.

Blackwing Dragon
07-25-2009, 03:00 PM
Well my statement on bad things selling would make more sense in the context in which it was intended.
Which is a certain kind of music where people dress like idiots, wobble and shake around like they are having a seizure, squirm to horrible horrible under-techno 2-beat synthesizer beats while shouting curse words \slurred "gang" slang into the microphone.
That one.

SickleCellAnemia
07-25-2009, 03:26 PM
QBasic #2 confirmed!

Daichieleven
07-25-2009, 09:08 PM
This'll probably be the reason I'll re buy a PSP.

Quig
07-26-2009, 11:22 AM
I played Persona 3 FES & Persona 4 first, then I managed to secure a copy of Revelations: Persona & Persona 2: Eternal Punishment. After playing the last two entries in the series I could not sit down and play the first game. Playing it was just painful because of the outdated graphics, so thank GOD that Atlus is rereleasing it for the PSP with updated graphics and content. I hope that they can release Persona 2 for the PSP without all the censorship (that ruined my gaming experience, so I quit playing after beating the mental hospital on the mountain), and with Innocent Sin or at least a few levels at the beginning to briefly go over the storyline of Innocent Sin so that we (American gamers) aren't to clueless as to what we missed out on.

SlyStrife
07-26-2009, 11:53 AM
I hope that they can release Persona 2 for the PSP without all the censorship (that ruined my gaming experience, so I quit playing after beating the mental hospital on the mountain), and with Innocent Sin or at least a few levels at the beginning to briefly go over the storyline of Innocent Sin so that we (American gamers) aren't to clueless as to what we missed out on.

Not sure what you're talking about here, Eternal Punishment never had any sort of censoring done to it. The game is actually one of Atlus' best translations to date. I think you should pop it in and give it another shot.

Also just to clear things up, Persona PSP isn't getting upgraded graphics, it's just some battle system adjustments, a menu cleanup, a re-translation, and a new soundtrack. Otherwise the game remains unchanged, that includes the original graphics and the first person dungeons.

I apologize if that sounded a little mean, trying to convey emotions over the internet doesn't always go the way that I would like it to. :)

Iris
07-26-2009, 01:35 PM
and with Innocent Sin or at least a few levels at the beginning to briefly go over the storyline of Innocent Sin so that we (American gamers) aren't to clueless as to what we missed out on.

They go over Innocent Sin about halfway into the game, when you visit Mt. Iwato. You don't really need it to understand the game until then, since your whole party is just as in the dark as you are.

And re: censorship...the only thing I can think of is the bleeps in one of Ulala's battle quotes? I actually liked the bleeps, they made it funnier to me for some reason (though I love the EP battle quotes precisely because they're so delightfully cheesy, your mileage may vary).

The only other thing I can think of is one line of optional NPC dialogue that had s--t censored as such, but I only saw profanity in text censored in that one line (they spell the words out normally elsewhere), so I don't think that's really a big deal either, and I assume it's just a difference in who edited that line for the final script or something. (They also seem to go back and forth on whether to space out the ellipses or not. I wouldn't mind seeing the inconsistency fixed if they did a PSP port or whatever, but it's seriously not that important in the grand scheme of things.)

VMan
07-26-2009, 05:49 PM
[QUOTE=Quig;126450]
And re: censorship...the only thing I can think of is the bleeps in one of Ulala's battle quotes? I actually liked the bleeps, they made it funnier to me for some reason

That one was especially memorable for me because that was the very first battle quote that sounded off in the game for me. Back in those days it was rare, (if existent at all) for me to see/hear profanity in games so to hear Ulala say "Out of the way *bleep* bastard!" was quite a delightful surprise.

That and Baofu yelling at her for hitting him too hard.

"Damn *****! Watch that ****! Are you still drunk?"

Or something like that. I'll never forget that one.

grrouchie
07-27-2009, 09:33 AM
I have been into video games for a long time but never into Atlus until recently, I have just started picking up a bunch of SMT games and will slowly work my way through them.
I'm looking forward to the original Persona and will then play P2 (my friend has the PS1 version) and then 3 and 4.

However, amusing story for me, I remember the day that i got my PS1, I went into the GameStop or whatever it was looking for it and FF7 (bought the system just for that game) and while the guy was getting things ready for me I was checking out other games just to see what was out there.

I clearly remember looking at the Persona case and reading the back talking about demons and whatnot and thinking that would probably be pretty cool to play sometime. Made a mental note to look for it after I beat FF7 and that it was pretty cheap at only 19.99.

However, My buddy and I played FF7 all summer long and I went back to school forgetting all about the game.

In fact, until recently I did not even know what game I was looking at, I always just remembered looking at some game involving devils and demons and wondering why I never picked it up. Was when my buddy finally showed me his Persona Games that it hit me and I felt like an idiot for not picking them up.

Oy Vey!

Will
07-27-2009, 10:13 AM
I love to the Persona games. I can't wait for this remake to come out. I really need to get in and reserve it before it's to late.

I'd love to get ahold of the 2nd one that is the only persona game I am missing from my collection.

Zengaku
07-27-2009, 11:15 PM
i am going to pick up the first one soon hopefully and get farther into it than i did the last time i played it. it really is underrated

falconzss
07-28-2009, 01:27 AM
i've played the first one but i still haven't finished it.
can't wait for the the persona psp. the reason to get a psp.

greyshm
07-31-2009, 02:29 PM
I've played all of them. I'm currently working throught P2:IS and P4 (STILL)

Bluerfn
08-03-2009, 02:59 AM
I bought the MegaTen games, but I never really played them. They're all just collecting dust. Truth be told, the only Persona game that I completed is Persona 4.

Doesn't stop me from being intrigued with the first Persona :D

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:lovefirefox:

MissNuki
08-03-2009, 10:08 AM
I had just finished beating FF7 and Suikoden and I thought Persona was the UGLIGIEST game I had ever laid eyes on. Although FF7 was my first RPG, Persona is my all time favorite... (tied with FFTactics)

We beat Persona back in '97 as a kids. It was ungodly long then--- and that U.S. version was with all the original stuff taken out. We took turns to get thru the dungeons and boss fights. Everything took forever.

We even worked to get the hidden student, so we went thru the first couple of dungeons with minus 1 party member. You had to chase the secret kid all over the place--- declining the other 3 kids .

We died SO many times. Even the normal creatures could like insta-kill us. If they started casting status effects you were doomed. Most negative status effects would like continuously sap larger and larger amounts of HP during and between turns. Sometimes the effects would spread to the other kids and start killing them.

That game was so evil. I also liked how it never told you whether or not you were compatible with the persona until you tried to summon it in a fight, in the middle of a dungeon, during a boss fight. You made like 20 cents within 3 hours of trekking thru a dungeon- the money drop was so stingy. But that NEVER stopped the demons from asking you for money to 'Make the whole world go around..." lol

Persona taught me to judge an RPG not by it's glittery, shiny graphics and pretty dudes-- but for the deep storyline, realistic characters, and badass techno that kept me wanting to endure dungeon-walking torture and BS party wipes. I also learned patience and why buffing and debuffing is key to curb-stomping the enemy. It also taught me that casino mini games are not a waste of time and game play.

The original Persona made me fall in love with ATLUS... and RPGs altogether.

SlyStrife
08-03-2009, 10:35 PM
I had just finished beating FF7 and Suikoden and I thought Persona was the UGLIGIEST game I had ever laid eyes on. Although FF7 was my first RPG, Persona is my all time favorite... (tied with FFTactics)

We beat Persona back in '97 as a kids. It was ungodly long then--- and that U.S. version was with all the original stuff taken out. We took turns to get thru the dungeons and boss fights. Everything took forever.

We even worked to get the hidden student, so we went thru the first couple of dungeons with minus 1 party member. You had to chase the secret kid all over the place--- declining the other 3 kids .

We died SO many times. Even the normal creatures could like insta-kill us. If they started casting status effects you were doomed. Most negative status effects would like continuously sap larger and larger amounts of HP during and between turns. Sometimes the effects would spread to the other kids and start killing them.

That game was so evil. I also liked how it never told you whether or not you were compatible with the persona until you tried to summon it in a fight, in the middle of a dungeon, during a boss fight. You made like 20 cents within 3 hours of trekking thru a dungeon- the money drop was so stingy. But that NEVER stopped the demons from asking you for money to 'Make the whole world go around..." lol

Persona taught me to judge an RPG not by it's glittery, shiny graphics and pretty dudes-- but for the deep storyline, realistic characters, and badass techno that kept me wanting to endure dungeon-walking torture and BS party wipes. I also learned patience and why buffing and debuffing is key to curb-stomping the enemy. It also taught me that casino mini games are not a waste of time and game play.

The original Persona made me fall in love with ATLUS... and RPGs altogether.

Seeing people saying stuff like this about Persona 1 makes me happy. I'm glad you like the game so much. ^.^

ShadowYuri
08-04-2009, 12:49 AM
I've never played any of the PS1 Personas. Although I've found out about the series with Persona 3, I already knew the Shin Megami Tensei franchise before, so I think I'll like this game (despite it being very different from the PS2 installments). However, I'm more buying it hoping decent sells will lead to dual remake of "Personas 2". I can't say I'm too psyched about the original Persona...

Dial J
08-06-2009, 05:50 AM
Sadly, I didn't really get into Atlus games until after they released Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis, which was around 2002 if I remember correctly, but for some reason I still never picked up any Megaten games until I found a copy of P2IS for cheap online.

A few months ago I managed to get my hands on Revelations, though, and finally beat it a few days ago. I made it my goal to finish it before the psp port came out.

chirokitsune
08-06-2009, 06:52 AM
It was my introduction to RPGs right after getting my Playstation. I never did finish it though. Got stuck in the final dungeon after running through all my supplies and just couldn't make progress any further in or even get out.

ArkAurelius
08-20-2009, 06:49 PM
Unfortunately No....Thats why im EXSTATIC to see Persona in its roots

Persona 4 won me over, Persona 3 and FES topped it, and now I'll get the chance to play Persona 1

I REALLY need to save up money ASAP

RobotViking
08-22-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm sad to say that I never played a Megaten game before Persona 3. I remember seeing both Persona 1 & 2 in stores when they were out and almost picked them up on more than one occasion, but for some reason never did. So, I'm really happy about the impending rerelease of P1 and hoping P2 will get one as well.

Y2dragon
08-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Actually, it was Revelations: Persona that got me started with the Shin Megami Tensei series. It took me a while at first to get use to it, but it just pulled me in. In fact, I still have the original game and strategy guide to go with it. As well as the game and guides to the rest of them. I always go back to play them all over again.

CoarseDragon
08-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Bought it day one, loved it and have been hooked on SMT ever since. The only reason I bought the game was because of Atlus.

SunshinexKite
09-16-2009, 03:49 PM
yep, I played it a long time ago though, so I don't remember how it was, and my cousin had the game, so I didn't get to beating it. That's why I'm SO pumped up for the PSP remake. :)

vincent_vincent
09-22-2009, 10:47 PM
Bought it day one, loved it and have been hooked on SMT ever since.

Karkarov
09-23-2009, 12:31 PM
Beat it to completion, got both endings, played it through 3 times total. In fact it is sitting right beside me in my "wall o games/dvds/blu rays". I liked the original localization just fine, that was fanboi crying that something was changed not real complaints. Outside of "mark" no character was changed in any big way and frankly looking at the goofy idiot he really was I can't blame them for changing it.

8bitsatatime
09-23-2009, 01:55 PM
No, ive only played P3 and P3:fes. I sadly still havent even picked up P4:very_sad:

littlefuzzy1
09-25-2009, 06:49 PM
I didn't get a PS1 until after I got my PS2 in late 2004 or so. Because of some store credit, and a "broken" trade-in deal at Blockbuster, I went on a game spree. I was having great luck finding most of the Square/Enix games, and lots of the various RPGs and ther really good titles for the PS1 and PS2. I even found Suikoden, and TWO copies of Suikoden II ($6/$6/$15.) Somewhere in there, I found Persona 1 and 2, probably around $10-20 each. Having bought so many games in a short time, I wasn't able to play them at the time. Later, I was becoming more aware of Atlus and MegaTen, so I had to search a bit to get the original Persona 3 w/ goodies. I played that for about 20 hours, but found out FES was coming, so I decided just to start over on that instead of beating the original version.

Eddie Van Helsing
09-28-2009, 08:00 PM
I know a lot of us have but there is a lot of new blood here who have only played 3 + 4.

I played the first, and when I heard that Atlus Japan had redone the game for the PSP and that Atlus USA would do a new localization for the PSP port, I just had to get a copy. My wife gave me a copy for my birthday, and I got the bad ending (http://matthewgraybosch.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/persona-on-psp-first-impressions/) on my first playthrough. I'll just have to play it again. :)

Eddie Van Helsing
09-28-2009, 08:01 PM
No, ive only played P3 and P3:fes. I sadly still havent even picked up P4:very_sad:

Get it now. It's awesome.

Kordero
10-01-2009, 03:43 PM
Well I Played Persona 1, 2, 3 and 4 :D

MomoChan
10-14-2009, 04:42 AM
It was Persona 1 that started me on Megami Tensei as a whole.

First-person-perspective dungeon crawls were new to me then, and I got stuck in the SEBEC building for a whole month.

When I finally figured out how to use the map, I was grossly overleveled with cruddy Personae, so I hit the Velvet Room after getting some demon cards.

I was able to finish the whole thing, but it didn't feel like much of an achievement, especially when I found out that the Japanese original had the Snow Queen Quest arc.

Re-bought the game on import to try it, but I didn't know much Japanese at the time so I had to drop it. My PS1 broke before I was able to go back to it after taking several intensive classes.

Now I'm doing it over again on the PSP. No idiotic Americanization, a halfway decent NA voice cast, and the SQQ intact.

My faith in U.S. localization companies is returning ever-so-slowly.