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Gunloc
10-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Atlus USA doesn't have very much left to release of their currently announced projects. All they have left for this year is Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble, and then it's only Shiren and Trauma Team for next year.
I would imagine that they should start announcing their 2010 Q1 line-up pretty soon. Hopefully Growlanser is one of those games.
mxpowar
10-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Atlus USA doesn't have very much left to release of their currently announced projects. All they have left for this year is Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble, and then it's only Shiren and Trauma Team for next year.
I would imagine that they should start announcing their 2010 Q1 line-up pretty soon. Hopefully Growlanser is one of those games.
I would be very surprised if they didn't, TBH. Growlanser has been released in the U.S. before so there is some brand recognition. Other stuff like Class of Heroes or Kenka Bancho seem like extremely niche titles, even for Atlus. If they can release those games, and pass on Growlanser, then something is very wrong at Atlus.
Kunio-kun
11-04-2009, 12:50 AM
Rowlanserg? Resnalworg?
Good to see that an Atlus lackey is at least perusing this topic... Maybe they can take a HINT?!? Hell, rename it in pig-latin or backwards if you think it would help sales, just publish the frickin' game already!!!
Kunio-kun
11-04-2009, 01:08 AM
Wow, playing Agarest: Generations of War in English is great! I don't even mind that it's several years old!!! The gameplay is a lot like another SRPG... What was that game called again??? Oh yeah, GROWLANSER. Sure wish I could play G1 for the PSP in English...
P.S.- Apologies in advance to Cj Iwakura for the Agarest nod, I saw what you posted previously regarding Idea Factory; they were one of the million companies who contributed to Agarest Wars... But have you ever played that game? It's somewhat similar to the early Growlansers and not as bad as IF's collaborative mash-ups like Chaos Whores or Cross(-ed out) Edge...
jeffx
11-04-2009, 04:29 AM
Rowlanserg? Resnalworg?
Good to see that an Atlus lackey is at least perusing this topic... Maybe they can take a HINT?!? Hell, rename it in pig-latin or backwards if you think it would help sales, just publish the frickin' game already!!!
This will not help at all.
mxpowar
11-04-2009, 06:19 AM
Wow, playing Agarest: Generations of War in English is great! I don't even mind that it's several years old!!! The gameplay is a lot like another SRPG... What was that game called again??? Oh yeah, GROWLANSER. Sure wish I could play G1 for the PSP in English...
P.S.- Apologies in advance to Cj Iwakura for the Agarest nod, I saw what you posted previously regarding Idea Factory; they were one of the million companies who contributed to Agarest Wars... But have you ever played that game? It's somewhat similar to the early Growlansers and not as bad as IF's collaborative mash-ups like Chaos Whores or Cross(-ed out) Edge...
Yeah, I just got Agarest in the mail yesterday. Funny thing happened though, when I started it up, I couldn't figure out why there were no trophies since it had just come out but then I realized it was originally a really old game and only just now localized. At least NISA put in trophies for the english release of Cross Edge, but I guess Ghostlight doesn't roll like that.
Einherjar
11-04-2009, 08:08 AM
I just noticed that Growlanser PSP existed and mistook it as being Langrassir PSP (I got the two names mixed up). And I almost lost my mother loving mind. Because if Atlus did a PSP remake of Langrassir, then there's a chance it could be localized for NA. And if it sold well enough in Japan, there's a chance they could bring Langrassir II to the PSP. And if the first one sold well enough in NA, there's a chance they could localize Langrassir II for NA... And so on and so forth. This would be a highly unlikely scenario, but important and exciting none the less, because only the first Langrassir game was ever localized for NA.
However, they did NOT make Langrassir for the PSP, but instead Growlanser. This is good though, because Growlanser is also all kinds of wonderful. So, to summarize: "What's a langrassir? Give me my Growlanser PSP!". Thank you for reading my dumb story. Good day!
Playing Langrisser IV & V, pretty good.
cj iwakura
11-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Langrisser is really good, but the first one is the best IMO. I've never played an SRPG where you command literally up to 80 individual characters in a single battle.
Kunio-kun
11-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Rowlanserg? Resnalworg?
Good to see that an Atlus lackey is at least perusing this topic... Maybe they can take a HINT?!? Hell, rename it in pig-latin or backwards if you think it would help sales, just publish the frickin' game already!!!
This will not help at all.
I really don't think a tongue-in-cheek plea will sway Atlus one way or the other when it comes to publishing this game; if they make their decision based on that single quote of mine then what would that say about their company?
That said, I stated in my very first post that I don't normally post on message boards and the entire reason I signed up here was to lobby support for G1... My posts have been to keep this thread alive, show Atlus that there are still people out there waiting for this game, and state my disapproval towards P3P (which, to my surprise, is a sentiment shared by several other posters.)
"That's all I have to say about that."
Kakizaki
11-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Quoted from another thread in this sub forum:
As an addendum to Onion's notes: the Suggestion forum is a place to suggest games, not lobby for them. We read all suggestions and take them into account, but posting "call to arms" and trying to overwhelm us with sheer numbers (in the hundreds...) will generally never work.
Kunio-kun
11-06-2009, 06:24 AM
Quoted from another thread in this sub forum:
As an addendum to Onion's notes: the Suggestion forum is a place to suggest games, not lobby for them. We read all suggestions and take them into account, but posting "call to arms" and trying to overwhelm us with sheer numbers (in the hundreds...) will generally never work.
Sorry I didn't take the time to read every f'n comment on this site... I read the first 4 rules by Onion and thought that to be sufficient... And I sincerely doubt that Atlus U.S.A. wouldn't pay attention if enough people lobbied for an Atlus of Japan title like G1 (i.e., the part of your quote that states it would "GENERALLY never work." ) While Atlus does largely publish hardcore niche titles here in the States, you would be a fool to think that some of their business decisions aren't primarily motivated on making a quick buck... Latest case in point: 101 Game Megamix.
So as I previously stated, I'm just here to keep the discussion alive. I want Atlus to realize there are still people interested in playing G1 in English for the first time. And I personally would much rather see anything other than another P3 remake; that's time that could be spent localizing something we haven't seen twice already... Also, don't misinterpret my use of the word "lobby." It's not like I'm writing a petition or getting hundreds of friends to back me up on this; I'm just one person voicing my frustration at this situation...
Kakizaki
11-06-2009, 09:04 AM
^You can drop the attitude man. Seriously, I am getting slightly tired of people getting bent out of shape over ridiculous stuff.
Yeah, you might not be able to read every comment on a message board, but you should make a note to read threads that are stickied by mods - especially when you are new.
You need to rethink your definition of lobby. It is flawed.
AdrianMorales
11-06-2009, 09:30 AM
I am surprised the game has not been annouced yet seeing how it is part of the ATLUS catalog. Maybe we will hear more next year.
Kunio-kun
11-06-2009, 05:30 PM
^You can drop the attitude man. Seriously, I am getting slightly tired of people getting bent out of shape over ridiculous stuff.
Yeah, you might not be able to read every comment on a message board, but you should make a note to read threads that are stickied by mods - especially when you are new.
You need to rethink your definition of lobby. It is flawed.
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No, I don't think it is...
I'm here trying to stimulate discussion with fellow posters on this thread to keep the powers-that-be aware that people are still hoping for a release...
And I'm not having an 'attitude,' nor 'bent out of shape...' That's just me being me... If you knew me you'd know i'm a d**k naturally, I'm not like some people who try to be one... Like I said, I read the first 4 rules by Onion, don't have the time in life to waste on boards; hence, why I don't normally post anywhere about anything... But I do enjoy the Growlanser series and have gotten some good feedback from fellow posters since joining... Peace and chicken grease-
Kakizaki
11-06-2009, 07:04 PM
^That is just it, hardly anyone on the internet actually "knows" anyone when interacting on a message board. "You being you" can come off as abrasive. Being a natural jerk, your words, not mine, isn't an excuse. Like I said before, drop the attitude and talk about the games you like without going overboard.
As far as lobby is concerned, see definition 5 in what you listed. You don't have to write a "petition" or "get hundreds of friends to back you up" as you had previously stated. Lobbying can be the action of one person.
Clephas
11-07-2009, 01:07 AM
Basically, its trying to convince someone with power over decision-making by forcefully restating an opinion over and over again. Since it has already been established that the admins and mods only have a limited amount of input on these matters in the first place and that Atlus has its own reasons and circumstances, perhaps it would be best to stop making sharp edged comments toward them. Expecting them to give in just because we post again and again is kind of ridiculous. I only post here because I hope it will happen... for me its like tossing a coin in a wishing well. I don't seriously believe I an effect the outcome this way.
Kunio-kun
11-07-2009, 08:44 AM
edit - You were warned already - Kakizaki.
Kunio-kun
11-07-2009, 08:57 AM
Yeah, I just got Agarest in the mail yesterday. Funny thing happened though, when I started it up, I couldn't figure out why there were no trophies since it had just come out but then I realized it was originally a really old game and only just now localized. At least NISA put in trophies for the english release of Cross Edge, but I guess Ghostlight doesn't roll like that.
Well there's always the 2010 domestic release of Agarest by Aksys... I heard it was delayed because they were going to add trophies... And have Arthur C. Clarke pen the U.S. translation...
Kunio-kun
11-07-2009, 09:03 AM
Langrisser is really good
I support this claim!
P.S.- Still need the phone card for my Collector's Edition Box Set for the Saturn... :mad:
jeffx
11-07-2009, 10:26 AM
T-T-T-TRIPLE POST
it's like you're BEGGING for this topic to get locked.
daveyd
11-15-2009, 08:38 PM
I really hope it gets released here. Growlanser Generations is probably my favorite SRPG of all time (The only other thing that even comes close for me is Shining Force 1 & 2). I don't even own a PSP, but I'd seriously buy one just to get this game.
mxpowar
11-16-2009, 08:27 AM
I really hope it gets released here. Growlanser Generations is probably my favorite SRPG of all time (The only other thing that even comes close for me is Shining Force 1 & 2). I don't even own a PSP, but I'd seriously buy one just to get this game.
Amen to that, although I would have added Shining Force III (bought a Saturn just to play it), Shining Force CD (which might be my favorite SF game) and also Stella Deus (because it's the only SRPG I've ever played that had huge, lean sprites as opposed to the typical short, squat characters).
tefting
11-27-2009, 12:04 PM
I would be ecstatic if this game was released in the US. Growlanser Generations had the 2 best rpgs I've ever played.
Soushi_Grapple
11-28-2009, 03:45 PM
I really hope it gets released here. Growlanser Generations is probably my favorite SRPG of all time (The only other thing that even comes close for me is Shining Force 1 & 2). I don't even own a PSP, but I'd seriously buy one just to get this game.
Amen to that, although I would have added Shining Force III (bought a Saturn just to play it), Shining Force CD (which might be my favorite SF game) and also Stella Deus (because it's the only SRPG I've ever played that had huge, lean sprites as opposed to the typical short, squat characters).
Hmm, doesn't Eternal Poison have non-squat sprites?
Nonetheless, I'm still anxiously awaiting this game... LOVED 2 and 3 and really want to get more of these games.
I need to relook up Langrisser again.
mxpowar
11-28-2009, 07:31 PM
Hmm, doesn't Eternal Poison have non-squat sprites?Yeah, it's in my backlog. I just haven't played it yet. :frown:
Growfan
01-11-2010, 07:52 PM
I brought Growlanser V about a year ago and became a Growlanser fan almost instantly. I immediately began searching for more and got Growlanser Generation, but was sadden to find that they were the only games to make it to America. I really want to play this game as well as IV, VI, and the PSone original version. I know my post probably won't make a differences, but I just wish to throw my voice in for this game coming to America.
Dragonkingtatsu
01-20-2010, 10:54 AM
P3P Is now announced, and Still no Growlanser...
Please, please!! I'm begging you, bring this over, please!
mxpowar
01-20-2010, 11:22 AM
P3P Is now announced, and Still no Growlanser...
Please, please!! I'm begging you, bring this over, please!
Persona 3 has been released 3 freakin times already while there are great Growlanser games being held hostage over there in Japan. Every time I start to forget about Growlanser, something reminds me like this stupid P3P announcement.
replicax77
01-20-2010, 11:37 AM
But I would really like a chance to play the first Growlanser game. I'm still happy about the port of Persona 3, but I have played that a couple of times already.
cj iwakura
01-20-2010, 12:49 PM
Each new release tosses another mound of dirt onto Growlanser's grave.
marche1990
01-20-2010, 01:18 PM
How hard is to find an used copy of this series (of course, the english version)?. The main problem that I see with this one is that while almost all the games with the Shin Megami Tensei moniker will sell because it's quality guaranteed, I don't think that a lot of people know about the franchise (I didn't knew until I started to lurk around the Atlus forums, for example). But who knows, maybe Atlus will have a change of heart later on
cj iwakura
01-20-2010, 01:40 PM
Growlanser V/Heritage of War is pretty common.
Generations? Good luck. But if you do find a copy, it's not that pricey at all.
Letiumtide
01-20-2010, 04:58 PM
I'll throw my chips in here. A port of Growlanser is a game I want more than anything else possibly being released in the near future. It's ridiculous that this topic has not only more posts than the Persona 3 PSP release but also more views (moreso infact than any other topic on this board), indicating that even guests are more interested in this title than they are of the third iteration of a single game.
It boggles my mind that we seldom see Growlanser games on this side of the pond. We were essentially teased with Generations and then got half of a game with Heritage of War, in which we should have at least recieved VI to complete the game.
Ultimately I'd like to see all of the unreleased titles make their way to us. But for a chance to play the first Growlanser in english, I'd pay a significant amount of money for.
Sanctine
01-20-2010, 05:35 PM
It boggles my mind that we seldom see Growlanser games on this side of the pond. We were essentially teased with Generations and then got half of a game with Heritage of War, in which we should have at least recieved VI to complete the game.
While I above everyone else want more Growlanser games translated, I wouldn't exactly call two complete games a 'tease'. And while I was disappointed we did not get VI, it was an understandable decision on Atlus' part.
Fuyukaze
01-20-2010, 07:05 PM
It boggles my mind that we seldom see Growlanser games on this side of the pond. We were essentially teased with Generations and then got half of a game with Heritage of War, in which we should have at least recieved VI to complete the game.
To which I can only say Langrisser. 2 is always better then 0. I want more Growlanser but I've come to see that as things stand, odds are we will NEVER see another Growlanser game released in the states. With that, I'm going to bow out and never mention the game on these boards again. Same with P3PSP.
cj iwakura
01-20-2010, 08:07 PM
If I had to choose, I think myself and everyone on this board would take Growlanser 1 over VI. Even if VI is better than V, it still uses the new(and arguably inferior) action RPG gameplay.
Ganelon
01-20-2010, 10:11 PM
What I don't like is that Atlus didn't say anything about GLVI. I mean, please think of the importers and if possible, hint at something encouraging/discouraging about the localization chances. I waited a few months for a US release of GLVI for nothing; if the JP version had a pre-order bonus that I missed, I'd be really annoyed.
Now, the importing population probably isn't that large (given how many folks here still don't have GL for PSP) but it'd be nice. If I don't spend my money on an import, that extra money will probably go towards another Atlus game.
And thankfully, by the time this game rolled along, I could see that it was clear Atlus had already shown lost interest in the series due to GLV's sales. I pre-ordered the JP version of this game and appreciate that Atlus stayed true to its tune. For everyone else, borgor's Growlanser translation guide is excellent and should get you through the Japanese game with no problem.
cj iwakura
01-21-2010, 01:38 PM
I'm pretty sure we'll never see Atlus USA out and out say 'sorry guys, we're not releasing this game'. It's bad PR, or something.
viperman
01-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Hello All,
I'm a new member and was reading through this thread. I agree that Growlanser PSP should be released in the States. Until then (If ever) I have decided that I will be buying an import from Japan (one of the game stores in NYC said they can order it for me and it will be twicw the price of a US psp game). My question is where can i go to find a translation book to understand what is being said in the game? Would Atlus know of such a product or service?
cj iwakura
01-21-2010, 06:58 PM
You want GameFAQs.com, not Atlus. I hear there's a pretty good translation guide for Growlanser there.
viperman
01-21-2010, 07:01 PM
True, Just wondering. I had a thought that maybe Atlus might know of it if they knew there are international customers who buy the game as an import.
I could care less about understanding the music. As long as I can understand the dialogue (and especally understand what choices to make in the game and items) otherwise I would see myself losing early and get bored. Let's face it, Japanese is no easy task for someone who speaks and reads English and Spanish.
cj iwakura
01-21-2010, 10:59 PM
I think we're well past zero hour here, but I won't give up hope until the PSP is a dead console. It took how long for Growlanser V to come out here?
I'm trying to spread the word as much as I can, so only time will tell if it makes a difference.
(I feel like we're going to be the new OG Thread at this rate. Hopefully we won't become as reviled.)
daveyd
01-23-2010, 08:17 AM
True, Just wondering. I had a thought that maybe Atlus might know of it if they knew there are international customers who buy the game as an import.
I could care less about understanding the music. As long as I can understand the dialogue (and especally understand what choices to make in the game and items) otherwise I would see myself losing early and get bored. Let's face it, Japanese is no easy task for someone who speaks and reads English and Spanish.
I agree. In fact, I'd be more than fine with them leaving the Japanese voice-overs as long as they had English subtitles.
I'm guessing the main reason this hasn't already been slated for a US release is because V didn't sell so well, but it was released on the PS2 near the end of its lifespan. Besides, V is just much weaker than the earlier games and how well can you expect a game to do when the first in the series was never released in English?
There's such a dearth of quality RPGs (and SRPGs especially) on the PSP that I think a lot of PSP owners would buy *any* RPG. Also, most of the RPGs that have been released on PSP are remakes / ports, while this game has never been released in the US. So I still hold out hope that Atlus will realize that this game would not only sell to current Growlanser fans, but also lots of people new to the series.
Growfan
01-25-2010, 12:22 PM
If I had to choose, I think myself and everyone on this board would take Growlanser 1 over VI. Even if VI is better than V, it still uses the new(and arguably inferior) action RPG gameplay.
I'm in the minority cause I would be happy with either one but I would still ask for the other (and for IV). Actually, I want everything Growlanser related: The art books, the Dramas CD, the mangas, and the novals.
I guess Atlus USA could ask japan to make a PS3 version of IV and VI. The chances are unlikely but it happened before (not particularly a game that I know of and a TV series).
SomethingDifferent
01-25-2010, 12:41 PM
I guess Atlus USA could ask japan to make a PS3 version of IV and VI.
I don't think they can.
It boggles my mind that we seldom see Growlanser games on this side of the pond. We were essentially teased with Generations and then got half of a game with Heritage of War, in which we should have at least recieved VI to complete the game.
To which I can only say Langrisser. 2 is always better then 0. I want more Growlanser but I've come to see that as things stand, odds are we will NEVER see another Growlanser game released in the states. With that, I'm going to bow out and never mention the game on these boards again. Same with P3PSP.
Sorry if I misunderstood your post, but you mean 3 is better than 1. Growlanser II and III were released in a bundle, V was released by itself, and Langrisser was released way back in the day for Genesis and retitled Warsong. Don't forget that Langrisser II in both its iterations was also rom-translated fully by its fans.
There's also a cult favorite computer game inspired by Langrisser called Battle for Wesnoth, which is actually really good and, even better, it's freeware.
cj iwakura
01-25-2010, 03:43 PM
Langrisser was really well-made for its time, and had some crazy epic fights. If Wesnoth is half as good, I have to check it out.
Growfan
01-25-2010, 06:02 PM
I guess Atlus USA could ask japan to make a PS3 version of IV and VI.
I don't think they can.
maybe, but I can anyway dream.
I find it really interesting that P3P, which was giving mixed feelings and at least one import review saying "don't bother. Just play FES.", got choosing over this game, which no one spook out against.
Vyse of Arcadia
01-25-2010, 07:39 PM
There's also a cult favorite computer game inspired by Langrisser called Battle for Wesnoth, which is actually really good and, even better, it's freeware.
You're close to sullying the name of Battle for Wesnoth (http://www.wesnoth.org) by calling it freeware. It's free open source software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html). There's a pretty big difference.
As for comparing it to Langrisser, unfortunately I've never played Langrisser, but from what I understand, the biggest difference is that Wesnoth is on a hexagonal grid. Also, multiplayer. And another cool thing is that anyone can make a campaign, and there are lots of good ones out there.
rpgaddict
01-26-2010, 10:03 AM
I hope that there's still a real chance that Growlanser PSP comes to the US; especially since there are barely any good RPGs on the PSP. I loved Generations! I'd love it if they could bring IV here too (though I guess they probably won't now that the PS2 is kind of dead).
I'm also posting this to show my support for a Growlanser PSP release. It's the missing part of the trilogy. I'd love to see the full story.
cj iwakura
01-26-2010, 03:15 PM
OP updated with shiny Urushihara quotient.
If this thread's going to be here a while, it may as well look good.
Inzaghi
01-26-2010, 03:35 PM
So am I to understand that this is now a lobbying thread, a la the late, unlamented SRT threads? Do we really need this and the discussion thread over in General Discussion?
SomethingDifferent
01-26-2010, 04:31 PM
As I said in the other thread, I think this one has already lost its purpose. Isn't the whole point of these threads to let Atlus know the game exists and we want them? At this point, they obviously already know that very well, so...
cj iwakura
01-26-2010, 05:33 PM
So am I to understand that this is now a lobbying thread, a la the late, unlamented SRT threads? Do we really need this and the discussion thread over in General Discussion?
That was more for general series discussion, but not really, no.
If only one can stay, I'd prefer this one.
Sanctine
01-26-2010, 06:33 PM
So am I to understand that this is now a lobbying thread, a la the late, unlamented SRT threads? Do we really need this and the discussion thread over in General Discussion?
No. I'm still suggesting you guys release Growlanser. ;)
Letiumtide
01-26-2010, 07:12 PM
It's kind of amazing to read the beginning of this thread where so many people had insane faith in Atlus to announce bringing this our way.
I didn't even see anybody mod/admin or otherwise mention anything in the thread. I kind of wish we could just get an answer on these things sometimes.
daveyd
01-31-2010, 08:25 PM
It's kind of amazing to read the beginning of this thread where so many people had insane faith in Atlus to announce bringing this our way.
I didn't even see anybody mod/admin or otherwise mention anything in the thread. I kind of wish we could just get an answer on these things sometimes.
I know what you mean. I'd rather hear an official "we aren't going to localize it" now than be left wondering if it will ever come for the rest of PSP's lifespan.. If Atlus USA decides to pass I suppose there's some chance another company will want to do it...
But if it doesn't get announced by the end of this year I just may import it and refer to the guide; As much as I'd rather have an English release, that's better than nothing.
Hraesvelgr
02-03-2010, 08:52 PM
Companies are in no way obligated to tell the public what games they won't be releasing, as there is little gain in doing so. People just want them to because they don't want to be left hanging with false hope that whatever game will be released, even if it's several years old (I'm looking at you, Front Mission 5). It would be nice to see it happen more often, but let's try to be realistic about it here.
That said, I would like to see more Growlanser released in English.
growlanservoter
02-03-2010, 10:59 PM
Try NIS that seems to be where the SRT boys have migrated to. I still have faith in Atlus releasing this game its not so old as OGS or OGG ;D
mxpowar
02-04-2010, 08:11 AM
Try NIS that seems to be where the SRT boys have migrated to.
Plus, NIS has favored the PSP since the beginning, maybe moreso than Atlus. Sure, a lot of them were Idea Factory games but still...
cj iwakura
02-04-2010, 10:27 AM
Atlus have been pickier with the PSP, but they've had fairly good taste in what they localize.
Clephas
02-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Thing is, this is an Atlus Japan IP. How likely is it that Atlus would let NISA localize it?
Sanctine
02-04-2010, 04:13 PM
Thing is, this is an Atlus Japan IP. How likely is it that Atlus would let NISA localize it?
I don't see why not. That's a pretty dumb question. Growlanser 2 and 3 were released by Working Designs, of all companies. If they were able to get the rights, then a company like NISA (who have worked many times with Atlus before) should not have nearly as much of a problem.
This isn't Namco or Nintendo we're talking about here.
Clephas
02-04-2010, 09:57 PM
I know, but that was then, this is now. Atlus is a much larger company - both financially and staff-wise - than it was back then. It would then only be reasonable for them to have a stronger attachment to their IPs. When a company refuses to let a game from one of their IPs be localized by another company, it usually means they want to reserve the potential profits for themselves... and it is only natural that as a company gets larger, that side of the argument becomes more powerful.
In no way would I not love to have NISA bring this over. I'm simply stating my concerns as they occur to me.
cj iwakura
02-05-2010, 02:58 PM
I think it's a matter of if a company doesn't want to localize a game, it's only polite to give the reigns to someone who does.
Hell, I'll buy it if O3 localizes it.
...
but I'll regret it.
growlanservoter
02-09-2010, 07:17 PM
O3 though releases very little lol. I havent heard anything new from the in a long while.
Killrig
02-10-2010, 12:58 PM
Yeah, I would love to see this over here too. But the fact that it's a PS1 remake makes it a harder sale -- I think. Atlus brought us Persona 1 PSP, as I think the SMT titles are owned by Atlus and perhaps less of a risk with the popularity of Person 3 & 4.
jj984jj
02-11-2010, 05:21 AM
Yeah, I would love to see this over here too. But the fact that it's a PS1 remake makes it a harder sale -- I think. Atlus brought us Persona 1 PSP, as I think the SMT titles are owned by Atlus and perhaps less of a risk with the popularity of Person 3 & 4.
Considering the PS1 game never came out here and the 2D holds up to a lot of 2D games on the market today I don't see why that would be a problem. This is also the first game in the series, there's no better installment to try and attract a larger audience with.
dungeon_man
02-12-2010, 05:44 AM
So am I to understand that this is now a lobbying thread, a la the late, unlamented SRT threads? Do we really need this and the discussion thread over in General Discussion?
Hey, you have the power to stop this at any time. Just release all of the Growlanser games in the US. or use the delete button...
Ladybird
03-03-2010, 06:37 AM
I'd be interested in this. I didn't buy the last Growlanser because of poor reviews, but I liked the Growlanser Collection.
Growfan
03-18-2010, 09:51 AM
I got V before I read those review and think their complaints are silly. Yea, there were a few annoyances in the gameplay, but so much or so bad for the game to have such poor reviews. my only complaints about V are:
1) the friendship medal event, my one and only complaint to AtlusJapan. The problem is that it's far from the end and you have to play though it 3 times to get all the ending. The friendship medal is a nice idea, though, and I think it should be a common element in future GL games (just more in the end)
2) the swearing. Be it minor or major, I hate playing a game and a character suddenly swears. It's even worse if my mother is in the room. and really, if the replacment words used are not ridiculous, who would really notice or even care that there wasn't any swearing in a game. not a true gamer, that's for sure.
As for those few annoyances I mention before, I found them easy to work around, though I'm not saying they shouldn't be fixed in future games.
Nzurozeta
03-20-2010, 07:44 PM
Yes please to more Growlanser! Generations are two of my favorite SRPGs period! It would be a treat to have this game and even Growlanser IV (hint hint?)
CurryStorm
03-23-2010, 12:53 PM
I still can't believe this hasn't been announced. I would buy this, as I would any of the unreleased Growlanser games first day (actually, I'd probably pre-order any/all of them). I just figured that when this was announced with Persona, that it was a sure-fire game to be brought over.
drunkmoron
03-24-2010, 12:19 AM
When I first heard about this, I thought that Atlus would probably bring it over, but now I'm starting to get worried about whether they'll bring it over or not
cj iwakura
03-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Atlus is never going to localize this. Point blank. Start bugging X Seed or Aksys.
Heck, Gaijinworks has a better chance of pulling it off.
That said.
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2010/125.html
It's getting a budget rerelease.
Clephas
03-30-2010, 06:39 PM
I dunno, there is always the possibility. It wouldn't be the first time Atlus chose to localize something years after its initial release.
They should bring this over. Afterall, they are re-releasing it in Japan as part of the "Best Collection."
ZeroBladez
04-04-2010, 10:55 PM
It seems the growlanser series is still well and alive, since their now re-releasing it. I knew i had to register not only for this, but the other growlanser games as well. I would love for this and the other titles to come stateside, so i can add them to the collection along with growlanser 2, 3, 5 (yep, i even bought 5). These are the only already released "japan-only" games that i want. So please atlus, bring this over here (and the others if possible). Thanks.
-ZeroBladez
drunkmoron
04-04-2010, 11:58 PM
I hope there still a chance that Atlus release this since it got rerelease in the "Best Collection" in japan
Clephas
04-05-2010, 01:07 AM
Generally, popularity in Japan isn't enough reason for an investment in the localization process, unfortunately. If it was, there are any number of minor rpgs that would have been taken and localized long ago. Heck, despite being partially an effort from IF, Agarest was enormously popular and is now going to be released here... but no one seriously thought it would be until the last year or so.
It just goes to show that popularity just isn't a good enough reason for Atlus... Growlanser is one of those games that is considered an all-time hit, but with the certain market for Growlanser being restricted to those who played II & III or those few who weren't put off by HOW's crappiness... its understandable that they would hesitate.
Myself, I think it's a bit silly to hesitate, considering how unbelievably better the original is than HOW, but I don't have any input on the internal decisions of video game companies. I wasn't the one burned though, so I can say all I want and not have any true comprehension of the internal reasons for not bringing this over.
ZeroBladez
04-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Would buy this in the first week of release, so please do consider localizing this atlus (a good chance this could do well too, since it is one of the better games out of the series). Plus it's the first game and it's on the psp. This could be a potential decent seller if you think about it.
Clephas
04-05-2010, 10:46 PM
hrm... Didn't Kakizaki ask us not to lobby in here...? Ah well, obsessive fans are obsessive fans... and I'm not one to talk.
Collegesurfer212
05-04-2010, 11:13 PM
MUST HAVE GROWLANSER 1!!!!!!! it would fit so nice next to my GG collection as well as growlanser 5. I would buy it first day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet Another Tim
05-05-2010, 09:50 AM
I'll blame SCEA if Atlus USA won't localize this, given the prior's mandatory English dub inclusion and NO DIRECT PORT policies.
Yes, SCEA still wonders why the PSP sells less than the DS, volume-/sales-wise.
Hamel
05-05-2010, 10:36 AM
I'll blame SCEA if Atlus USA won't localize this,
Or the fact that Growlanser won't make them a lot of profit?
DarkRPGMaster
05-05-2010, 12:09 PM
I'll blame SCEA if Atlus USA won't localize this, given the prior's mandatory English dub inclusion and NO DIRECT PORT policies.
Yes, SCEA still wonders why the PSP sells less than the DS.
Not in this neighborhood. Here it's the other way around.
And yes, we need that PSP version here...preferably within the next 2 years.
Yet Another Tim
05-05-2010, 01:19 PM
I'll blame SCEA if Atlus USA won't localize this,
Or the fact that Growlanser won't make them a lot of profit?
I'm quite aware that Atlus USA only does one print run for any North American Growlanser game.
I'll blame SCEA if Atlus USA won't localize this, given the prior's mandatory English dub inclusion and NO DIRECT PORT policies.
Yes, SCEA still wonders why the PSP sells less than the DS.
Not in this neighborhood. Here it's the other way around.
And yes, we need that PSP version here...preferably within the next 2 years.
Er, I'm referring to the sales volume and not the price tag.
cj iwakura
05-05-2010, 09:52 PM
I'm of the opinion that Growlanser could do very well if marketed properly, especially since unlike Heritage, this is a strategy RPG; and a good one.
SomethingDifferent
05-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Why does this thread still exist?
Inzaghi
05-06-2010, 04:26 PM
Why does this thread still exist?
Because there hasn't been a need to lock it. If it bothers you, stay out.
Collegesurfer212
05-14-2010, 05:03 PM
Lucky Japan it's out now =( I wish it comes here
DarkRPGMaster
05-14-2010, 05:05 PM
Well there's always importing the PSP version and hope there's a translation guide for it...
Onion of Mystery
05-14-2010, 05:17 PM
You may note that we take a dim view of piracy here, DarkRPGMaster. Kindly don't bring it up.
DarkRPGMaster
05-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Duly noted
jj984jj
05-14-2010, 06:13 PM
When XSEED announced their localizing the Falcom games I was interested in I thought the only thing that I want to be localized on PSP now is Growlanser and Team Destiny's Tales games.
That new Yakuza game would be nice too though. ;)
Philemon
05-15-2010, 05:37 PM
I'm hoping Growlanser 1 PSP (and SRWOG Saga Endless Frontier Exceed!) will be strongly considered by ATLUS USA, since they're both great games :)
I'm guessing we'll find out what else they have in store at E3 for this year, since after Trauma Team next week and Hexyz Force the week after, all they'll really have in their release roster will be P3P.
cj iwakura
05-15-2010, 09:08 PM
The PSP is back on the rise. E3 would be the perfect time to reward our patience.
Make it happen, Atlus!
Collegesurfer212
05-16-2010, 02:25 AM
yea Hexyforce looks good so ill pick that one up as well Mimana in one shot and when P3P comes out i'll pick that one up as well even though I have P3 already lol but I really really really REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY hope we hear a release date about G1 at E3. Please look at the responses here Atlus please!!!!!!!!!!!!! we must have this game....wow I just looked at the views for this topic whoa over 32,000 wow just wow lol
Phoenix_Apollo
05-16-2010, 04:28 PM
I would love to see this come out in English. I'm planning on getting a PSP, and I would love to have a chance to play this when I eventually get it, even if it's years after.
Clephas
06-06-2010, 10:46 AM
I'm mostly reviving this thread because Growlanser PSP just got an Atlus Best release in Japan, and while popularity in Japan doesn't necessarily translate to popularity in the US, I'd still like Atlus to seriously consider bringing this over. For Kakizaki's sake, I'll refrain from further posting in this thread, but I do want to stress that this is a game that I and any number of fans desperately want to see localized. As if the sheer number of posts didn't already say that, lol.
Collegesurfer212
06-06-2010, 11:30 AM
I hear I am still hoping this bad boy comes out in america, also I am glad you posted here I did kinda of wanted the count to reach 600 in a weird way lol
mxpowar
06-06-2010, 06:21 PM
So far, Atlus only has P3P on its upcoming release schedule so we're definitely due for some game announcements at E3 very soon. Hopefully, one those announcements is that Growlanser is going to be localized!
cj iwakura
06-10-2010, 03:05 PM
Knights in the Nightmare PSP
Etrian Odyssey III
and some XBL stuff.
So yeah, pack it up, everyone. It ain't happening.
Phoenix_Apollo
06-10-2010, 03:06 PM
I'll still be hopeful until the PSP is dead, but you guys go and do that. I mean, we got Sakura Wars five years after it came out in Japan, just when the PS2 was on it's way out, so it's still possible.
System_Error
06-10-2010, 03:41 PM
Knights in the Nightmare PSP
Etrian Odyssey III
and some XBL stuff.
So yeah, pack it up, everyone. It ain't happening.
Yea as ANNOUNCED stuff. Atlus will have some surprises I'm sure. I hope this isn't one of them though.
cj iwakura
06-10-2010, 06:34 PM
I'll still be hopeful until the PSP is dead, but you guys go and do that. I mean, we got Sakura Wars five years after it came out in Japan, just when the PS2 was on it's way out, so it's still possible.
This is a good point. I never thought that would happen.
atlusphelata
06-11-2010, 04:54 AM
Nisa is different.... they actually are very aware of what the fans want and communicate with them.
DarkRPGMaster
06-11-2010, 08:56 AM
Nisa is different.... they actually are very aware of what the fans want and communicate with them.
Isn't that what Atlus USA does?
horatiosanz45
06-11-2010, 09:29 AM
Usually never. Look at all the game requests and compare that to what they actually do. Sting, internal atlus, a few good games, alot of really bad ones.
That breaks it down.
daveyd
06-11-2010, 11:34 AM
I'll still be hopeful until the PSP is dead, but you guys go and do that. I mean, we got Sakura Wars five years after it came out in Japan, just when the PS2 was on it's way out, so it's still possible.
This is a good point. I never thought that would happen.
Well I'd never say never until the PSP is dead and buried but I'm not holding my breath at this point.
Anyone else think that it's rather lame they're releasing KitN when an English version is already available? Especially considering that game utilized the DS technology so well, I really don't understand the need to localize a PSP port... Sure the translation work is already done but it will still suck up money / resources that could have been used on a game that's never been localized on any platform.
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
Kesseki
06-11-2010, 11:51 AM
Anyone else think that it's rather lame they're releasing KitN when an English version is already available? Especially considering that game utilized the DS technology so well, I really don't understand the need to localize a PSP port... Sure the translation work is already done but it will still suck up money / resources that could have been used on a game that's never been localized on any platform.
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
Eh, they've released the PSP versions of the other Sting games in that series, so it's no surprise. I guess they sell decently.
Still, it'll be disappointing if Growlanser PSP is not a surprise announcement at E3, and I'll pretty much have to give up what little hope is left.
DarkRPGMaster
06-11-2010, 11:59 AM
Anyone else think that it's rather lame they're releasing KitN when an English version is already available? Especially considering that game utilized the DS technology so well, I really don't understand the need to localize a PSP port... Sure the translation work is already done but it will still suck up money / resources that could have been used on a game that's never been localized on any platform.
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
Eh, they've released the PSP versions of the other Sting games in that series, so it's no surprise. I guess they sell decently.
Still, it'll be disappointing if Growlanser PSP is not a surprise announcement at E3, and I'll pretty much have to give up what little hope is left.
I'd end up giving up then too, since we've always gotten a Growlanser game 1 year after Japan's gotten it. Well, we'll find out at E3.
*readies self to import it*
cj iwakura
06-11-2010, 08:28 PM
I'll have to keep from laughing if a translation hacking team pulls it off, but again, I'd rather Atlus did it themselves.
JeremyR
06-11-2010, 10:18 PM
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
Well, you'll already have to endure the tedium of the gameplay that Growslanser games have. So...
KingOfPrinces
06-11-2010, 11:50 PM
I'll still be hopeful until the PSP is dead, but you guys go and do that. I mean, we got Sakura Wars five years after it came out in Japan, just when the PS2 was on it's way out, so it's still possible.
This is a good point. I never thought that would happen.
Well I'd never say never until the PSP is dead and buried but I'm not holding my breath at this point.
Anyone else think that it's rather lame they're releasing KitN when an English version is already available? Especially considering that game utilized the DS technology so well, I really don't understand the need to localize a PSP port... Sure the translation work is already done but it will still suck up money / resources that could have been used on a game that's never been localized on any platform.
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
No I do not think its lame at all. With a ton of new features including a whole new route with new characters, i am totally looking forward to it and Blaze union. But i hope this game gets localized too.
Sanctine
06-14-2010, 06:35 PM
Nisa is different.... they actually are very aware of what the fans want and communicate with them.
Oh, yeah. You mean like they did with Ar Tonelico 2 and Rhapsody DS?
Anyone else think that it's rather lame they're releasing KitN when an English version is already available? Especially considering that game utilized the DS technology so well, I really don't understand the need to localize a PSP port... Sure the translation work is already done but it will still suck up money / resources that could have been used on a game that's never been localized on any platform.
No. This is a solid release. It's a day one for me.
dungeon_man
06-16-2010, 05:03 AM
::sigh:: Guess I might as well import Growlanser PSP and endure the tedium of using a translation guide.
Well, you'll already have to endure the tedium of the gameplay that Growslanser games have. So...
Wrong board, mate.
Anyway, seeing KitN announced makes me feel like everything else we've been waiting for has been passed over. Including Growlanser.
cj iwakura
06-16-2010, 04:07 PM
I didn't really have any faith going into E3.
NIS have a 'hardcore' PSP release planned, which either means Prinny 2 or La Pucelle Ragnarok, so there's that.
And Square's bringing Parasite Eve 3. Heck, I almost want that more than Growlanser. Almost.
DarkRPGMaster
06-16-2010, 05:33 PM
I didn't really have any faith going into E3.
NIS have a 'hardcore' PSP release planned, which either means Prinny 2 or La Pucelle Ragnarok, so there's that.
And Square's bringing Parasite Eve 3. Heck, I almost want that more than Growlanser. Almost.
I want it just as much as I want Growlanser PSP. I hope Atlus doesn't let me down here, because I'd rather not scream "WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!?" for the next 24 hours.
furou
06-25-2010, 09:07 AM
I'd also like it if this game would get a translation.
belborn/
09-04-2010, 10:52 AM
I think Sony has said NoNoNo to a US release.I only wish Atlus would more communicate with us for reasons not to bring that over.the game suggestions forums are a little useless if I see which games will asked and which are come-
mxpowar
09-04-2010, 05:00 PM
Yeah, seriously, it's unfair to leave fans twisting in the wind without any confirmation one way or another.
Clephas
09-04-2010, 05:09 PM
... I believe that this kind of thing is why Kakizaki went through the trouble to complain about this thread...
KingOfPrinces
09-04-2010, 05:40 PM
Why wouldn't sony want this game on their system? Is there alot of bad stuff....?
Phoenix_Apollo
09-04-2010, 08:57 PM
I don't understand why Sony would refuse this. At all. There were a couple on the PS2 after all. It's not like this is Sakura Wars when they just didn't care. The PSP is still a current system.
belborn/
09-04-2010, 11:57 PM
Sony America refuse simply PS1 ports on the PSP.Ok,Persona has come,would you say.But this is more "upgraded" and it is 3D.I can remember which problems Working Designs(RIP) had to bring 2 and 3 over .At the end they were forced to publish them in a bundle.
The same problems had SNK with Metal Slug.There were a XBOX version but no PS2 one of part 3,remember?
I think Atlus would not take the risk of a nearly translated and then rejected game.
drunkmoron
09-06-2010, 08:31 PM
I think at this point, if you want the game you should import it. At this point I really don't see Atlus bringing this over
belborn/
09-06-2010, 11:23 PM
Sure,I could do that.but it is very frustrating to play an RPG,if you can't understand a single word.Especialy a game like Growlanser,where the communication with your teammates is so importend.
tapout113
09-07-2010, 06:39 PM
Sure,I could do that.but it is very frustrating to play an RPG,if you can't understand a single word.Especialy a game like Growlanser,where the communication with your teammates is so importend.
I hear ya...I only import games that I really want to play and if only there is a translation script available online...but reading a script while playing the game kinda kills the game's experience...It would be nice if this game got localized though...I've played the other Growlanser games and they were pretty good
Nezumi
09-07-2010, 08:09 PM
Sony America refuse simply PS1 ports on the PSP.Ok,Persona has come,would you say.But this is more "upgraded" and it is 3D.I can remember which problems Working Designs(RIP) had to bring 2 and 3 over .At the end they were forced to publish them in a bundle.
The same problems had SNK with Metal Slug.There were a XBOX version but no PS2 one of part 3,remember?
I think Atlus would not take the risk of a nearly translated and then rejected game.
This is why people should really complain to Sony about these policies.
cj iwakura
09-07-2010, 08:49 PM
Sony America refuse simply PS1 ports on the PSP.Ok,Persona has come,would you say.But this is more "upgraded" and it is 3D.I can remember which problems Working Designs(RIP) had to bring 2 and 3 over .At the end they were forced to publish them in a bundle.
The same problems had SNK with Metal Slug.There were a XBOX version but no PS2 one of part 3,remember?
I think Atlus would not take the risk of a nearly translated and then rejected game.
This is why people should really complain to Sony about these policies.
That policy holds no water in regards to Growlanser. It has plenty of new content.
nerdtastic
09-19-2010, 08:55 AM
we need this and PSP (preferrably) ports of P2.
do it, atlus.
drunkmoron
09-20-2010, 05:11 PM
Sony America refuse simply PS1 ports on the PSP.Ok,Persona has come,would you say.But this is more "upgraded" and it is 3D.I can remember which problems Working Designs(RIP) had to bring 2 and 3 over .At the end they were forced to publish them in a bundle.
The same problems had SNK with Metal Slug.There were a XBOX version but no PS2 one of part 3,remember?
I think Atlus would not take the risk of a nearly translated and then rejected game.
This is why people should really complain to Sony about these policies.
That policy holds no water in regards to Growlanser. It has plenty of new content.
I hope this isn't a case of a company not releasing one of the better game in a series just because one of the weaker game in the series didn't sell well. This is what cost us Front Mission 5 (I cry about SE not bringing it over every time I see a mech)
Green Card
09-30-2010, 10:44 AM
And now FM has "evolved" into a shooter. I thought that Atlus would pick up Growlanser. It is a shame they haven't.
Clephas
10-02-2010, 04:43 AM
And now FM has "evolved" into a shooter. I thought that Atlus would pick up Growlanser. It is a shame they haven't.
To be honest, its more than a little bit of a waste that they turned Front Mission into a third-person mech shooter... as strategy-rpgs go, the FM series was truly unique.
As for Growlanser... I've already cried a few times because Atlus has chosen not to bring it over. It really is a waste, especially considering the fact that Atlus has been mostly releasing ports and dungeon-crawlers of late... I'd like a new rpg to play from Atlus sometime soon...
mxpowar
10-02-2010, 07:29 AM
And now FM has "evolved" into a shooter. I thought that Atlus would pick up Growlanser. It is a shame they haven't.
To be honest, its more than a little bit of a waste that they turned Front Mission into a third-person mech shooter... as strategy-rpgs go, the FM series was truly unique.
As for Growlanser... I've already cried a few times because Atlus has chosen not to bring it over. It really is a waste, especially considering the fact that Atlus has been mostly releasing ports and dungeon-crawlers of late... I'd like a new rpg to play from Atlus sometime soon...
Um, Growlanser is a port, too.
drunkmoron
10-02-2010, 02:55 PM
At least Growlanser is a port of a game most of us hadn't play before. I already have Persona 3 and Knights in the Nightmare and don't see the point in buying the game again.
Clephas
10-02-2010, 06:19 PM
It's an enhanced port with extra content that has never seen a US release... that's the essential difference. Well, P3P was an enhanced port in its own way... but really, I don't think its appropriate to compare Persona with Growlanser in this case..
Nico87
10-04-2010, 09:39 AM
Imported from NCSX.
Anyway, I'm fine with this not being localized _IF_ they would only give us a reason. :question:
mxpowar
10-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Imported from NCSX.
Anyway, I'm fine with this not being localized _IF_ they would only give us a reason. :question:
If I were a betting man, I'd say the reasons are that Heritage of War sold poorly and that the amount of work required to bring this over does not justify the projected sales numbers, especially considering the dated graphics and the fact that it is on the PSP, which publishers love to single out for its poor sales due to piracy.
I'm not saying I agree with any of this but I do believe that this is what goes through the mind of whoever decides which games get translated and which don't.
Terro
10-05-2010, 02:27 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd say the reasons are that Heritage of War sold poorly and that the amount of work required to bring this over does not justify the projected sales numbers, especially considering the dated graphics and the fact that it is on the PSP, which publishers love to single out for its poor sales due to piracy.
Hmmm well Heritage came out in 2007, so 3 years ago. I know someone like me didn't even HEAR about the game until the past year or so, when I have started to expand myself more in the JRPG genre. So, I'd say a larger fanbase has been established by then, since other games like Persona 4 sure have helped people come to know who Atlus are etc. Still...
It does seem like there is a large fanbase for Growlanser. For Heritage, I was VERY fortunate last year, to find a copy of Heritage CE NEW that was still floating around a Gamestop! Lucky me^^ I have not played it yet, but as a collector, it's sad we have only seen a couple of titles in the franchise...
About the PSP, it seemed like Atlus had quite an interest in the PSP, with Class of Heroes and Crimson Gem Saga releasing really close together. Although Persona 1 didn't do very well, P3P sure did! Maybe it's the fear that a release of Growlanser 1, being such an older title, will have a similar effect that the Persona 1 release did?
I still think it's nice when some JRPG PSP games are still getting released. Piracy or not, there will always be those hardcore fans who WILL buy the item (ESPECIALLY if some sort of preorder bonus/CE is added to the mix!) I know I would get it :) So it is still nice to take chances... Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep was a system seller (I saw alot sell), so maybe more of those fans will discover more JRPGs the PSP has to offer as well?
KingOfPrinces
10-06-2010, 12:05 AM
Imported from NCSX.
Anyway, I'm fine with this not being localized _IF_ they would only give us a reason. :question:
If they did give us a reason everyone would just argue the reason that ATLUS would give.
Nico87
10-06-2010, 10:51 AM
Imported from NCSX.
Anyway, I'm fine with this not being localized _IF_ they would only give us a reason. :question:
If I were a betting man, I'd say the reasons are that Heritage of War sold poorly and that the amount of work required to bring this over does not justify the projected sales numbers, especially considering the dated graphics and the fact that it is on the PSP, which publishers love to single out for its poor sales due to piracy.
I'm not saying I agree with any of this but I do believe that this is what goes through the mind of whoever decides which games get translated and which don't.
Very fair points. Heritage of War wasn't recieved very well in the US either. Lots of mediocre reviews, and I must agree that some of the stuff in the game wasn't executed well at all. Growlanser Generations is what makes me want to play through Growlanser PSP. I thought GG was excellent, with Growlanser II being my favorite.
Thing is, text-heavy RPGs is the last thing you want to play in a language you can't understand a word of, and I wonder if it's perhaps not worth it to use a faq or the like. Nevertheless, it looks great in my PSP collection!
cj iwakura
10-09-2010, 12:46 AM
Heritage of War wasn't a bad game, but compared to 2 & 3, it sure was a bad Growlanser.
Atlus USA did all they could with it, shy of localizing a better one instead.
growlanservoter
10-11-2010, 08:01 PM
Heritage of War wasn't a bad game, but compared to 2 & 3, it sure was a bad Growlanser.
Atlus USA did all they could with it, shy of localizing a better one instead.
It it was well done IMO but the fans demanded 4 and refused to get heritage. I love heritage for what it is but the fans let ATLUS down. I beleive this to be true for some other titles as well. ATLUS takes a big risk for the fans and when they don't buy the games then the series falls throught the cracks.
ErnestLyell
10-12-2010, 04:01 AM
In my humble opinion , HoW is a well-done game itself , but it also stray a little bit away from the original game mechanic , so some fans may not feel like at home with it
And those who are not Growlanser fans would simply be shy away because of its heavily outdated graphic without giving it a try , I just wished Growlanser would have decent graphic like Persona , it's the aspect that Growlanser heavily lacked
If only Atlus would put a little bit more effort into the series , If only ......
I guess it's the end for the legacy of Growlanser -m-
DarkRPGMaster
10-12-2010, 08:41 AM
The irony of that is the fact that Heritage of War introduced me to the series, and how I ended up getting and falling in love with Generations.
Tiamat
10-12-2010, 02:48 PM
I actually like Heritage of War more than Generations. I'm probably the only person you'll find who thinks that though >_>
I thought HoW had a better story than 2 and 3 and I liked the way they tweaked the battle system. The graphics are a SIN but I loved it otherwise. I was worried because the 3D graphics looked so horrid compared to the 2D graphics in generations but I'm glad I got it anyway.
Not a fan of the beginning of HoW though. It's kinda cool that you play different main characters for a while in the beginning but it's also kinda annoying since you know you aren't gonna have the characters for long. Especially the very first one with Seldous...I really didn't like it, and I swear the graphics are even uglier in this part of the game than any other.
Mickeymac92
11-05-2010, 04:26 PM
I certainly hope Growlanser PSP gets localized someday. I've started playing Heritage of War recently (had it for a while but never had a reason to play it) and so far it seems like a fun game. While I know it's a departure from the rest of the series, hearing Growlanser 1 being consistantly called the best in the series makes it a must play in my book. And again, I understand that a localization is unlikely since Heritage of War sold so poorly, but if there's even the slightest chance, I'm swearing an oath to pre-order it as soon as (or as close as possible after) a localization is announced.:)
Collegesurfer212
11-20-2010, 03:24 AM
I hope with the possibility of P2 being localized maybe our dream will come true of growlanser being localized too, even if its been out for awhile its better late than never, maybe they will hopefully take a chance with this title. PLEASE!!!!! But I am happy P2 might get localized here if not I might have a spaz lol
Azul7
11-23-2010, 10:23 PM
Introduced through Heritage of War I really enjoyed it got me interested into the series
Tiamat
11-27-2010, 11:02 AM
I'll keep waiting for this but at some point I am going to buy the import and use a translation guide if I have to. At least the PSP is region free...If I eventually get the japanese version (:() it would be the first game I've ever used a translation guide for. maybe I'll wait one more E3 or something...
Growfan
11-28-2010, 07:55 PM
I'll keep waiting for this but at some point I am going to buy the import and use a translation guide if I have to. At least the PSP is region free...If I eventually get the japanese version (:() it would be the first game I've ever used a translation guide for. maybe I'll wait one more E3 or something...
I'll probably join you (it will be my first Japanese version). Growlanser is the second (and last) series I vowed not to sell.
cj iwakura
11-29-2010, 01:45 AM
Looking at the OP, I really like the PS1 cover more. It looks like things are about to go down.
PSP's cover says 'you get lots of girls and your own loli!'.
Tiamat
11-30-2010, 11:15 AM
I'll keep waiting for this but at some point I am going to buy the import and use a translation guide if I have to. At least the PSP is region free...If I eventually get the japanese version (:() it would be the first game I've ever used a translation guide for. maybe I'll wait one more E3 or something...
I'll probably join you (it will be my first Japanese version). Growlanser is the second (and last) series I vowed not to sell.
I decided to import Growlanser VI and use a translation guide with it. Growlanser PSP still has some chance of being localized (as far as I know...) so I'll get VI instead for now. My ps2 and swap magic are such pieces of crap though. My current plan is to just leave the system on if I get it to work at all, otherwise the game will just sit around looking pretty till I can get my ps2 fixed or get a better one. >_> playing imports on ps2 is such a pain
mxpowar
11-30-2010, 07:42 PM
I'll keep waiting for this but at some point I am going to buy the import and use a translation guide if I have to. At least the PSP is region free...If I eventually get the japanese version (:() it would be the first game I've ever used a translation guide for. maybe I'll wait one more E3 or something...
I'll probably join you (it will be my first Japanese version). Growlanser is the second (and last) series I vowed not to sell.
I decided to import Growlanser VI and use a translation guide with it. Growlanser PSP still has some chance of being localized (as far as I know...) so I'll get VI instead for now. My ps2 and swap magic are such pieces of crap though. My current plan is to just leave the system on if I get it to work at all, otherwise the game will just sit around looking pretty till I can get my ps2 fixed or get a better one. >_> playing imports on ps2 is such a pain
Can you use Swap Magic (or similar device) on a hardware BC PS3?
cj iwakura
11-30-2010, 09:09 PM
I've always suspected there's a statute of limitations with unlocalized games, but hey, look at Sakura Wars V.
mx: no, and if you could, you would have to rip the console apart to pull it off.
Kishou
02-20-2011, 01:33 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ATLUS! Give this a game a chance in America! Working Designs may have kicked the bucket, but this games deserves all the more to be brought to the attention of American gamers as a sort of salute to a great company. Authors get sales on their books when they die, so what's stopping this getting a chance? We all want an English Growlanser 1!
Sorry for pulling a Stealth here, but I'm desperate to know what the updated release of Growlanser has to offer...
Fuyukaze
02-20-2011, 05:00 PM
At this point I'd wager a good months pay we have better odds of seeing the atlus staff do a pie jump wearing ballet leotards then we will of getting this game released.
Thinking about importing that PSP version but as I've yet to even start with my PS1 version, little point in that.
DarkRPGMaster
02-20-2011, 07:13 PM
I guess I'll have to import this beasty too. I just hope somebody has a good translation guide. I'd like to know WTF is being said. <_<
cj iwakura
02-20-2011, 08:25 PM
There's a decent one at GameFAQs, but there's bound to be some lunatic out there planning a translation patch by now.
And hey, Working Designs may be dead, but Victor Ireland's still a busy bee.
There's always hope.
Heck, I'd be happy with a PSN release. I believe Growlanser PS1 is on the Japanese PSN.
mxpowar
02-21-2011, 07:15 AM
There's a decent one at GameFAQs, but there's bound to be some lunatic out there planning a translation patch by now.
And hey, Working Designs may be dead, but Victor Ireland's still a busy bee.
There's always hope.
Heck, I'd be happy with a PSN release. I believe Growlanser PS1 is on the Japanese PSN.
I almost never buy DLC but I would make an exception for this game.
Tiamat
02-21-2011, 11:02 AM
I enjoyed Growlanser VI but I certainly missed out on some (many?) things because I needed translation guide to play it. Rather not have to for Growlanser PSP as well so I'm holding out a while more on the off chance they pick it up.
drunkmoron
02-21-2011, 08:04 PM
I already gave up on Atlus releasing this and order it online a week ago. If Atlus does change its mind and release this, I would pre order it and be there on day one to buy it. However since that probably will never happen, I'll just wait for my copy to come in the mail. It really a shame that they aren’t releasing this, they are probably scared it won’t sell well after Growlanser 5 but this is a completely different game that will probably do well if they release it here.
Tsuko
02-21-2011, 10:01 PM
I already gave up on Atlus releasing this and order it online a week ago. If Atlus does change its mind and release this, I would pre order it and be there on day one to buy it. However since that probably will never happen, I'll just wait for my copy to come in the mail. It really a shame that they aren’t releasing this, they are probably scared it won’t sell well after Growlanser 5 but this is a completely different game that will probably do well if they release it here.
Heritage of War had a different battle system then 1-3, but i dont know why they released Growlanser V instead of IV
I didnt care for HoW much but i still have my copy of it because its a Growlanser game
it would be cool if Atlus of Japan put Growlanser 4/6 together on a PS3 disc and added English Subtitles
God of War and God of War 2 are on a single PS3 disc, same with Ico and Shadows of the Colossus
PS3 is region free so it would give us the chance to play them
cj iwakura
02-21-2011, 10:35 PM
It's kind of a no-brainer, Atlus USA said themselves in their press release; they chose the game with the 'updated' battle system, so it'd look different from the games that killed Working Designs. (Their wording was something to the effect of 'you no longer feel like an omniscient traffic cop'.)
Growlanser IV had the exact same gameplay as II and III. They wanted something that looked improved upon.
Unfortunately, in streamlining the battle system, they also made it more boring.
Growlanser V wasn't a bad game by any means, but there wasn't much strategy involved, either. Take control of Haschen, hit, run, repeat.
And as much as I love the series, let's be realistic(I think I can do that now): a Growlanser anthology would sell like crap here. I don't even think it did that well in Japan.
Wow, that's an unlucky number of replies. Someone else post.
Tsuko
02-22-2011, 12:04 AM
Growlanser II and III didnt cause the end of Working Designs, it was Sony because Sony forced them to release GII and GIII together instead of separately
cj iwakura
02-22-2011, 08:23 PM
Yes, I'm well aware of that, but they still ended the company, one way or another.
Seiferx
02-22-2011, 09:04 PM
I have been dying for at LEAST Growlanser I to be brought to English and i could LITERALLY die happy *_^
I would SERIOUSLY tell all my friends, cousin's, and their cousins with PSP's to buy it (because i know its that good) and our big 300+ family with our Sony-ONLY brand stuff will each buy a copy to make it worth Atlus' time porting it to USA.
Big families spread word like wildfire with us and I would LOVE ATLUS 2DEATH if they can make my one wish to them a reality. SO PLEASE????
growlanservoter
02-23-2011, 03:39 AM
I imported long ago. >< Another growlanser coming to the US is as slim as a main stream SRT game coming to our shores ;D
cj iwakura
02-23-2011, 01:39 PM
Actually, SRT has a better chance. :P It's popular.
Tiamat
02-24-2011, 09:28 AM
I read that Growlanser Generations actually sold well (though it did take working designs a long time to release it) and that the nail on their coffin was actually the next game they were working on. I can't remember the name but they had already put a lot of work into it and sony wouldn't let them publish it.
mxpowar
02-24-2011, 10:03 AM
I read that Growlanser Generations actually sold well (though it did take working designs a long time to release it) and that the nail on their coffin was actually the next game they were working on. I can't remember the name but they had already put a lot of work into it and sony wouldn't let them publish it.
I think it was a Geomon title, possibly #3, but I'm not 100% sure.
CoarseDragon
03-01-2011, 09:28 AM
What a great series this is.
Kou the Mad
04-28-2011, 04:08 PM
i seriously wish this was released here.
us westerners lose out on so many RPGs.
growlanservoter
04-28-2011, 07:34 PM
Talk of Growlaner 4 brought back this old thread lol. There is no way 1 will get a US release it has been out for far to long >< I dont have to many high hopes for G4 PSP to come over either. Maybe NIS or Xseed might try i know xseed gave us the rest of the wild arms series and shadow hearts 2 and 3
DarkRPGMaster
04-28-2011, 07:45 PM
Dont be so sure, dude. It took them 4 years to give us Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation, so I say they'll get to giving it to us...eventually.
Clephas
04-28-2011, 08:53 PM
Dont be so sure, dude. It took them 4 years to give us Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation, so I say they'll get to giving it to us...eventually.
We can only hope...
Yet Another Tim
04-28-2011, 09:18 PM
Actually, SRT has a better chance. :P It's popular.
As long as Namco Bandai is smart enough not to let it get buried by Dragonball, then it has an even better chance. Just look at the previous gaming generation and the amount of "niche/hardcore" in-house franchises Dragonball alone buried, in terms of US chances.
--Tales
--Super Robot Wars
--Ar tonelico
--Summon Night
--Idolm@ster
--Taiko no Tatsujin
As for Growlanser in general, why do I have a vibe if Nintendo went as far as nabbing an exclusivity deal for Growlanser, Growlanser would get a much-needed audience?
While it doesn't help I see and blame SCEA as the reason why Atlus USA gave up on Growlanser's US chances, I suggest instead that we talk to SCEA, call them out on their US localization polices, then challenge them to localize Growlanser.
Tsuko
04-28-2011, 09:19 PM
Talk of Growlaner 4 brought back this old thread lol. There is no way 1 will get a US release "it has been out for far to long" >< I dont have to many high hopes for G4 PSP to come over either. Maybe NIS or Xseed might try i know xseed game us the rest of the wild arms series and shadow hearts 2 and 3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growlanser
two years is not a long time
bmain86
04-29-2011, 01:09 AM
Indeed I second that motion! :agree:
Hopefully sometime in the future where there is an RPG draught, I'd love to hear this games localization announcement.
Kou the Mad
04-29-2011, 12:20 PM
and if they do, maybe they can add a few more features to the game while translating it.
DarkRPGMaster
04-29-2011, 01:00 PM
and if they do, maybe they can add a few more features to the game while translating it.
Now you're just asking for too much. I say they should just translate it and bring it over. At this point I don't care if it has Japanese voices.
Olethros
04-29-2011, 01:48 PM
They couldn't do it anyway. They don't have the staff to make changes to the game code here. Whatever was done in Japan is what comes over here, there's no ability to improve it while localizing it.
Kou the Mad
04-29-2011, 04:48 PM
and if they do, maybe they can add a few more features to the game while translating it.
Now you're just asking for too much. I say they should just translate it and bring it over. At this point I don't care if it has Japanese voices.
i was kidding
DarkRPGMaster
04-29-2011, 05:19 PM
Sorry, hard to tell on the internet.
growlanservoter
04-30-2011, 07:39 PM
If it boiled down to cutting the VA's from the disk to cut costs id be ok with that.
Phoenix_Apollo
05-01-2011, 06:20 PM
You know, the PSP is kind of in a drought as it is. Having a game like this come along would be a real boon for it, I think. Trails in the Sky can only last so long, you know.
Kou the Mad
05-01-2011, 07:06 PM
Sorry, hard to tell on the internet.
you wouldn't be the first to mistake a joke for something serious on the internet.
everyone makes mistakes.
cj iwakura
05-01-2011, 07:40 PM
If it boiled down to cutting the VA's from the disk to cut costs id be ok with that.
I think at this point we'd accept the UMD with a printed script.
growlanservoter
05-03-2011, 01:30 AM
If it boiled down to cutting the VA's from the disk to cut costs id be ok with that.
I think at this point we'd accept the UMD with a printed script.
So true so true. On a side note your coment had me rolling on the ground with laughter. For some reason I pictured myself using my psp as an e reader playing a text only version of G1 :D
Schmitty2364
05-13-2011, 10:29 PM
dude... i just fouind out about about growlanser 2 weeks ago.... and got generations played the crap out of it, loved every second of it and 2 was freakin awesome, i went out got heritage of war havent started it yet but i also have imported every other game in the series and am gonna start playing them with translation guides...... now if only they would just bring all of them state side so i dont have to do some serious masochistic gaming by playing and reading with the translation guides..... oh the pain atlus is about to put me thru....
anyways.... the point is.. so far this series is amazing, lately ive been trying to play alot of rpgs and i find my self losing interest after like 10 hours.. the persona series is a good example of that happening to me... and im not hating on those games it happens with alot of them... but man did generations hold my interests like crazy! i havent loved a rpg this much since suikoden 2 and final fantasy x
cj iwakura
07-19-2011, 06:15 PM
FYI, if you've never seen Growlanser 1 in action(I sure haven't), someone did a great look at it here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29436281
PSX version, but hey.
kratoscar2008
07-19-2011, 07:30 PM
is a shame we wont have growlanser 1 here but the game has a very good translation with talks and others things and about gameplay is like growlanser 2-4 but the spells dont have levels theres not ring system just normal equip weapon armor accesory theres no gems (the accesories take that function) but overall if you understand growlanser 2 gameplay you will be in like home.
Here the main character name is player and is silent so you will feel the persona series vibe.
GrimHouten
07-27-2011, 11:13 AM
well, I guess the only thing left, if to wait for
a_ some miracle(some company other than ATLUS to bring this game)
b_some awesome soul out there, that can translate the script
c_learn japanese and play the game in 3-5 years.
I will go for C for the moment, and hope that in 4 years i can understand enought to play the game
belborn/
07-28-2011, 09:48 AM
Good Luck with that GrimHouten.Then you can be the awesome soul in 4 years:D
Collegesurfer212
08-29-2011, 09:42 PM
Ressurection!!!!! I would love to have this game atlus please!!!!!!!! I don't necro too many threads but for this one I will I would love this game and Growlanser 4 please either in psp or HD remake, I am happily playing Catherine and soon gonna play persona 2 and I would love these two games to come as well so I can play them along the other two I just mentioned and Growlanser 1 and 4 would make my collection that much more complete.
drack530
09-01-2011, 10:00 PM
I would buy the growlanser games if they were rereleased.
Anthony88
09-28-2011, 11:59 PM
I'd pick this up, it'll sit nicely next to my copy of Growlanser Generations.
http://www.makemoneymakemoney.net/1.jpg
http://www.makemoneymakemoney.net/2.jpg
http://www.makemoneymakemoney.net/4.jpg
Collegesurfer212
10-05-2011, 05:18 AM
Come on Atlus please release this I'll give you a cookie if you do
Twilightdawns
10-06-2011, 01:53 PM
The first Growlanser game that I ever played was Growlanser Generations and from then on I have looked for something remotely close but there isn't. Please Atlus don't let this series be left by the wayside it would be profitable as a digital download if nothing else since it would cut down on material costs. All this game needs is a translation and subtitles for cutscenes. We need more Growlanser. Don't let this flickering candle go out.
Brandon
10-27-2011, 03:50 PM
Growlanser I please.
izanagi_the_creator
01-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Any hope? It is a Growlanser remake and the game starts with a "G"..
Shizuka
01-05-2012, 04:58 PM
I also support this request, along with Growlanser IV.
Brandon
01-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Any hope? It is a Growlanser remake and the game starts with a "G"..
It's hard to say... IF the new game happens to be a Growlanser, I would probably have to assume it'd be IV. It's newer (Growlanser I for PSP is still technically a PS1 game), it has a lot more to it, it has the gameplay we're all familiar with (whereas I is a bit less strategic than the later ones), and it's completely standalone. But since Growlanser I is the first one and you technically don't need to play any games with that one, who knows...
cj iwakura
01-05-2012, 08:06 PM
Pretty sure it's much too late for this one.
Don't ask me which I would pick between I and IV, but put a gun to my head?
IV. Because I is at least somewhat summarized in II, which we got.
IV is all new to me. Also, the additions to IV PSP are immense, even compared to I's.
vincent_vincent
01-06-2012, 08:24 AM
Please let it be this one.
daveyd
01-06-2012, 08:27 AM
Any hope? It is a Growlanser remake and the game starts with a "G"..
It's hard to say... IF the new game happens to be a Growlanser, I would probably have to assume it'd be IV. It's newer (Growlanser I for PSP is still technically a PS1 game), it has a lot more to it, it has the gameplay we're all familiar with (whereas I is a bit less strategic than the later ones), and it's completely standalone. But since Growlanser I is the first one and you technically don't need to play any games with that one, who knows...
I agree. Releasing GL1 would be far more risky because the PS1 era graphics would turn off anyone who isn't already a fan of the series. And while I'd love to have I and IV, I'd definitely prefer it be IV because of the more strategic combat.
But maybe if Atlus does localize IV and it sells better than their wildest expectations, they would consider bringing over 1 as well.
Shizuka
01-06-2012, 08:40 AM
If only Atlus did the localization for the games as they were being released in Japan.
izanagi_the_creator
01-06-2012, 09:22 AM
If Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded gets localized, I doubt Growlanser I Remake would be as that there are few Dept. Heaven games that were not localized even though some of them sold well. On the contrary, if Growlanser I Remake is localized, Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded would also be localized almost for sure because it is a superior game in almost every aspect. Personally, I prefer Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded over Growlanser I Remake to be localized. Of course, localizing both games would be great!
KingOfPrinces
01-06-2012, 09:57 AM
If only Atlus did the localization for the games as they were being released in Japan.
From what I read concerning their localization process, that's exactly what they do IF they decide to localize the game.
Onion of Mystery
01-06-2012, 10:30 AM
That is not always the case.
cj iwakura
01-06-2012, 05:22 PM
I'd like to think Atlus JP take the possibility of a US release into consideration when coding a game's text, but I guess that's not as easy with a port.
Hraesvelgr
01-06-2012, 05:55 PM
Please let it be this one.Why would you want it to be this one when IV is obviously superior? I wouldn't turn the original game away, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather get the one we don't have anything on. I mean, GLI's plot is at least summarized in GLII - GLIV doesn't have that.
izanagi_the_creator
01-06-2012, 09:34 PM
Growlanser I Remake does have its good points. It is the prequel..
Tiamat
01-06-2012, 09:56 PM
The good thing about Growlanser 1 PSP is that it's Growlanser 1 :P
kratoscar2008
01-08-2012, 08:05 AM
Growlanser 1 has more plot twist that make the game unforgettable while growlanser 4 has better missions and is by far one of the hardest growlanser the first one has more lovely characters (Ruise and Julian are the best) and in 4 i think only Frane is the more i liked. About graphics i dont see where is the argument persona 1 was almost like a ps1 game and still had got out of japan and sold okay. As what game i would prefer i prefer 4 because in the first there is already a script translation for the plot and in 4 i would want to know what happened. Bottom line anyone of those two is a must buy for growlanser fans.
Tiamat
01-08-2012, 10:59 AM
yeah I'm playing it now and I really like Ruise and Julian too. Also like Wallace cause he's a badass
izanagi_the_creator
01-09-2012, 07:23 PM
I guess I have to play the JP version too..
kratoscar2008
01-10-2012, 02:16 PM
I guess I have to play the JP version too..
YOU MUST. I dont have psp i only play the psx original but is such a great game that i will finish it around 4 more times to get all CGs. The game is easy overall so you dont need that much leveling up or know what abilities are you learning (Only the cure ones). Remember using the guide in the growlanser fan site for more detailed gameplay.
dchiasson
01-19-2012, 09:07 PM
I loved the three PS2 games that were released in the US and intend to buy Grownlanser: Wayfarer of Time as soon as it's available. I'd love to see this one come out in the US as well.
mxpowar
01-20-2012, 10:07 AM
I loved the three PS2 games that were released in the US and intend to buy Grownlanser: Wayfarer of Time as soon as it's available. I'd love to see this one come out in the US as well.
IF Wayfarer of Time does really well, then there may be a chance for this...but it would really have to do well and also, it will probably be PSN-only.
daveyd
01-21-2012, 07:55 AM
I loved the three PS2 games that were released in the US and intend to buy Grownlanser: Wayfarer of Time as soon as it's available. I'd love to see this one come out in the US as well.
IF Wayfarer of Time does really well, then there may be a chance for this...but it would really have to do well and also, it will probably be PSN-only.
:agree: Lets make sure Wayfarer of Time does really well. Honestly I was considering importing this game for $70 so I think I will probably buy two $30 copies of Wayfarer of Time to support it. Maybe 3 if they release a LE.
Tsuko
01-23-2012, 05:06 PM
I loved the three PS2 games that were released in the US and intend to buy Grownlanser: Wayfarer of Time as soon as it's available. I'd love to see this one come out in the US as well.
IF Wayfarer of Time does really well, then there may be a chance for this...but it would really have to do well and also, it will probably be PSN-only.
Don't count the PSP as dying out just yet
Namco Bandai announced this recently,
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/01/23/first-clues-about-case-closed-prelude-to-the-past/
a Visual Novel based on the anime series Detective Conan known to NA as its Americanized version Case Closed
izanagi_the_creator
01-23-2012, 07:19 PM
The PSP is not dying yet in Japan but that is quite irrelevant to ATLUS USA localizing this enhanced port of the PS1 game. I support the idea of localization and will buy the game day one in-stores, of course!
Panfuricus
01-23-2012, 11:15 PM
I would also buy this day one, but I have this feeling growsians around here seem very vocal.
mizugameza
01-24-2012, 09:36 PM
Day one. <3
Hollow_Tears
01-31-2012, 09:59 PM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
daveyd
02-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
kratoscar2008
02-01-2012, 11:40 PM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
They know we want more of Growlanser here but they need our incentive (money duh) to give it a chance. Thanks to persona 3 we got Persona 2 IS so thanks to Grow 4 we have a chance to see grow 1 so WE MUST BUY THE GAME.
izanagi_the_creator
02-02-2012, 05:29 AM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
They know we want more of Growlanser here but they need our incentive (money duh) to give it a chance. Thanks to persona 3 we got Persona 2 IS so thanks to Grow 4 we have a chance to see grow 1 so WE MUST BUY THE GAME.
Only problem is that Persona 2: Innocent Sin was released some time after Persona 3 Portable, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 3 whereas Growlanser (PSP port) is released before Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded. I hope someone will start a fan translation of the game instead. This way, we won't get the awesome English dubs but the game will be like Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PS1) or Front Mission 5: Scars of the War (PS2), Japanese voicing with English subtitles. All you got to do is import the game or buy it at Tsutaya and patch it. The games at Tsutaya are very, very cheap compared to elsewhere. However, Tsutaya is located in Japan only.
At the sound of this, ATLUS USA moderators may feel like clenching their fists but its not like Growlanser will be localized anytime soon one way or the other..
kratoscar2008
02-02-2012, 07:32 AM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
They know we want more of Growlanser here but they need our incentive (money duh) to give it a chance. Thanks to persona 3 we got Persona 2 IS so thanks to Grow 4 we have a chance to see grow 1 so WE MUST BUY THE GAME.
Only problem is that Persona 2: Innocent Sin was released some time after Persona 3 Portable, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 3 whereas Growlanser (PSP port) is released before Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded. I hope someone will start a fan translation of the game instead. This way, we won't get the awesome English dubs but the game will be like Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PS1) or Front Mission 5: Scars of the War (PS2), Japanese voicing with English subtitles. All you got to do is import the game or buy it at Tsutaya and patch it. The games at Tsutaya are very, very cheap compared to elsewhere. However, Tsutaya is located in Japan only.
At the sound of this, ATLUS USA moderators may feel like clenching their fists but its not like Growlanser will be localized anytime soon one way or the other..
Still P2 IS is a psx remake so it can still happen. At least i can dream right:(
daveyd
02-02-2012, 03:11 PM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
They know we want more of Growlanser here but they need our incentive (money duh) to give it a chance. Thanks to persona 3 we got Persona 2 IS so thanks to Grow 4 we have a chance to see grow 1 so WE MUST BUY THE GAME.
Only problem is that Persona 2: Innocent Sin was released some time after Persona 3 Portable, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 3 whereas Growlanser (PSP port) is released before Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded. I hope someone will start a fan translation of the game instead. This way, we won't get the awesome English dubs but the game will be like Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PS1) or Front Mission 5: Scars of the War (PS2), Japanese voicing with English subtitles. All you got to do is import the game or buy it at Tsutaya and patch it. The games at Tsutaya are very, very cheap compared to elsewhere. However, Tsutaya is located in Japan only.
At the sound of this, ATLUS USA moderators may feel like clenching their fists but its not like Growlanser will be localized anytime soon one way or the other..
Still P2 IS is a psx remake so it can still happen. At least i can dream right:(
I think a localization is still entirely possible if Wayfarer of Time sells well.. The PSP may basically be considered dead by most of the bigger US publishers but some of the more niche game publishers don't necessarily think so. When the PS2 was "dead" we saw lots of niche titles like Sakura Wars: So long my love get localized. Xseed seems like they are still interested in releasing PSP games for awhile and Atlus may be too. That the PSP is "dead" may even be considered a plus since there won't be a lot of other upcoming PSP titles to hog the spotlight.
It might be digital download only to cut costs, especially since the Vita can't play UMDs and brick and mortar stores won't devote much shelf space to PSP games, but I think that digital only would make most fans happier than no localization at all.
kratoscar2008
02-02-2012, 04:09 PM
Atlus since we are getting growlanser 4 for the psp we now need you to release growlanser 1 for the psp in the us, and make us growlanser fans very happy.
Oh tell Satoshi urushihara and atlus japan to make enhanced ports for the rest of the growlanser games.:D
I'm sure Atlus knows Growlanser fans want this one too, but they're probably going to wait and see how well Wayfarer of Time sells before deciding to localize this one... Be sure to spread the word about this game, as we are going to need it to sell well if we ever want to see more Growlanser games in English.
I believe someone mentioned in the Growlanser subforum that the reason Atlus JP only remade I and IV for the PSP was those were the 2 most popular Growlanser games in Japan; and therefore, we're less likely to see remakes of the other games any time soon... But perhaps if Growlanser becomes more popular in the West that will influence their future plans for the series.
They know we want more of Growlanser here but they need our incentive (money duh) to give it a chance. Thanks to persona 3 we got Persona 2 IS so thanks to Grow 4 we have a chance to see grow 1 so WE MUST BUY THE GAME.
Only problem is that Persona 2: Innocent Sin was released some time after Persona 3 Portable, Persona 3 FES, and Persona 3 whereas Growlanser (PSP port) is released before Growlanser IV: Over Reloaded. I hope someone will start a fan translation of the game instead. This way, we won't get the awesome English dubs but the game will be like Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PS1) or Front Mission 5: Scars of the War (PS2), Japanese voicing with English subtitles. All you got to do is import the game or buy it at Tsutaya and patch it. The games at Tsutaya are very, very cheap compared to elsewhere. However, Tsutaya is located in Japan only.
At the sound of this, ATLUS USA moderators may feel like clenching their fists but its not like Growlanser will be localized anytime soon one way or the other..
Still P2 IS is a psx remake so it can still happen. At least i can dream right:(
I think a localization is still entirely possible if Wayfarer of Time sells well.. The PSP may basically be considered dead by most of the bigger US publishers but some of the more niche game publishers don't necessarily think so. When the PS2 was "dead" we saw lots of niche titles like Sakura Wars: So long my love get localized. Xseed seems like they are still interested in releasing PSP games for awhile and Atlus may be too. That the PSP is "dead" may even be considered a plus since there won't be a lot of other upcoming PSP titles to hog the spotlight.
It might be digital download only to cut costs, especially since the Vita can't play UMDs and brick and mortar stores won't devote much shelf space to PSP games, but I think that digital only would make most fans happier than no localization at all.
If Atlus wants they can remove the voices too like in grow 4. The psp is a good portable that was left behind because now Bad Graphics is what people likes (See the Wii and DS).
ShadowRaskolnik
02-02-2012, 04:35 PM
If Atlus wants they can remove the voices too like in grow 4. The psp is a good portable that was left behind because now Bad Graphics is what people likes (See the Wii and DS).
That is probably one of the most moronic things I have read in a long time. There are several reasons why the PSP didn't fare as well as the DS in NA, but graphics are not one of them.
kratoscar2008
02-02-2012, 04:53 PM
If Atlus wants they can remove the voices too like in grow 4. The psp is a good portable that was left behind because now Bad Graphics is what people likes (See the Wii and DS).
That is probably one of the most moronic things I have read in a long time. There are several reasons why the PSP didn't fare as well as the DS in NA, but graphics are not one of them.
Mr. http://images.wikia.com/megamitensei/images/0/04/P4-Morooka.jpg for you:D
If Atlus wants they can remove the voices too like in grow 4. The psp is a good portable that was left behind because now Bad Graphics is what people likes (See the Wii and DS).
lol what
My DS has gotten a lot more playtime than my PSP. It has much less to do with graphics and much more to do with the fact that the DS has a lot of quirky, unique titles that do fun things with the touchscreen gimmick, and that happens to appeal to me, while the PSP has some good stuff but tbh most of the PSP games that most appealed to me were...well, ports and remakes.
cj iwakura
02-03-2012, 04:05 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the Growlanser team also make the Devil Survivor games, so they're definitely still working with Atlus JP.
I highly doubt Urushihara works for Atlus, I bet he only works with the Growlanser titles.
kratoscar2008
02-03-2012, 04:22 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the Growlanser team also make the Devil Survivor games, so they're definitely still working with Atlus JP.
I highly doubt Urushihara works for Atlus, I bet he only works with the Growlanser titles.
I remembered that they are supposed to work on Devil Survivor too. I bet too i think that Urushihara is the one to ask Growlanser team to add his work since i have seen all langrisser and Growlanser Chicks doing some hot Posses that leave me to think that the Characters of those series are IP of Urushihara Himself.
Leilee
02-03-2012, 07:38 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the Growlanser team also make the Devil Survivor games, so they're definitely still working with Atlus JP.
I highly doubt Urushihara works for Atlus, I bet he only works with the Growlanser titles.
Wouldn't surprise me if Masaya/Career Soft actually went out of their way to hire Urushihara as a freelancer for their series of games.
Its not like Langrisser or Growlanser series were his first major projects either, he'd done a lot of other work in manga and anime before that. ^^
izanagi_the_creator
02-05-2012, 10:57 PM
I hope the localization of Growlanser I (PSP port) will be considered if Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time sells well..
daveyd
02-08-2012, 06:55 PM
I hope the localization of Growlanser I (PSP port) will be considered if Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time sells well..
Only thing we know for sure is that if WoT doesn't sell well, we won't see a localization of I, and likely will never see localizations of any future Growlanser ports / remakes either.
kratoscar2008
02-08-2012, 07:06 PM
I hope the localization of Growlanser I (PSP port) will be considered if Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time sells well..
Only thing we know for sure is that if WoT doesn't sell well, we won't see a localization of I, and likely will never see localizations of any future Growlanser ports / remakes either.
SHHHs Wood Wood. It must sell well we must not let Atlus trust in us be in vain.
Tsuko
02-08-2012, 09:08 PM
I hope the localization of Growlanser I (PSP port) will be considered if Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time sells well..
Only thing we know for sure is that if WoT doesn't sell well, we won't see a localization of I, and likely will never see localizations of any future Growlanser ports / remakes either.
oh it will
Growlanser Generations sold really well, Growlanser Heritage of War as far as i know sold pretty good despite having a different battle system to it
kratoscar2008
02-09-2012, 07:36 AM
I hope the localization of Growlanser I (PSP port) will be considered if Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of Time sells well..
Only thing we know for sure is that if WoT doesn't sell well, we won't see a localization of I, and likely will never see localizations of any future Growlanser ports / remakes either.
oh it will
Growlanser Generations sold really well, Growlanser Heritage of War as far as i know sold pretty good despite having a different battle system to it
thats the spirit.
KingOfPrinces
02-09-2012, 01:23 PM
This game has been out in Japan for almost three years. If it hasn't been released yet I highly doubt it's coming at all. Regardless of how well Growlanser IV sells.
Kakizaki
02-09-2012, 03:01 PM
^People seem pretty chill in here. No reason to be a debbie downer.
landlock
02-09-2012, 04:38 PM
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the Growlanser team also make the Devil Survivor games, so they're definitely still working with Atlus JP.
I highly doubt Urushihara works for Atlus, I bet he only works with the Growlanser titles.
I remembered that they are supposed to work on Devil Survivor too. I bet too i think that Urushihara is the one to ask Growlanser team to add his work since i have seen all langrisser and Growlanser Chicks doing some hot Posses that leave me to think that the Characters of those series are IP of Urushihara Himself.
Doubt it. I mean Tony Taka does the same things with all the characters from the Shining series'. When you hire a Hentai/Ecchi artist to do you character designs it's just something they most likely accept will happen.
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