Growlanser 1: PSP remake

[Green Card]

Put me in that camp of those who think Wild ARMs 2 is horrible. The first one has better characters and story but they were both too easy - Wild ARMs 2 was a breeze I may have died once the entire game.


And Atlus USA deserve Growlanser, especially with the love they've been showing the PSP lately. I almost can't imagine them passing it up for another company to localize.

What do you mean they deserve it? Can't they localize anything Atlus JP develops? I don't know how it works.

[Sanctine]

Even the best fansubs can't match up to a good localization, especially if voice work is involved.

Of course they can. Obviously, the games can't be voiced properly, but I'd say games like Persona 2: IS, Tales of Phantasia (PSX) and Utawarerumono had just as good unofficial localizations as what some of the heavy hitters can produce.

Oh, and Mother 3.

I highly doubt it'll be Growlanser, but if so, awesome. Better someone than no one.

More likely will probably be something like a BoF or Tales game though(if Namco lets them have it).

I dunno, I think Growlanser has a much better chance of making it over than Breath of Fire 3 or Tales of Eternia, especially at the hands of XSeed. They were the only two native PSX of those series' games that had PSP ports, AFAIK, and it's rare that either Capcom's or Namco's games get translated and sold by third parties.

It may very well not be Growlanser, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Atlus doesn't exactly have the best track record localizing these games.

Wild Arms 2 is terrible

Love this game. Great game, awful translation.

[Lucethira]

Even the best fansubs can't match up to a good localization, especially if voice work is involved.

Of course we'd prefer a legit localization, that's quite obvious. ^^; That's why we have to depend on professional companies. Growlanser is quite a long game which would take time to do, also Atlus has lots of other games going on currently and in near future, I believe. However, it looks like many fans are getting restless, and some have already decided to import. Can't really blame them given the track record of localized Growlanser titles. For those who can't import, if this Growlanser is not localized, it would obviously disappoint plenty of people, and a fansub may just be inevitable. (And would be a shame IMHO.) That said, we'll just have to be more patient. E3 is coming up.

[growlanservoter]

Speaking of localizations have you seen the subs for Endless Frontier amazing I haven't seen 1 minor error/mistake ATLUS totally blew my expectations with it and I love it. They are more than capable of doing an awsome job of localizing it. In fact I don't want crumby fandubs for Growlanser PSP. I 'd prefer ATLUS to sub it :D

[Aika]

Been watching this thread everyday. ;_;

But...correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the only game announced thus far that fits the description "enhanced remake of a classic PSone RPG" Growlanser? Well, aside from Persona (even then that's a bit MORE than enhanced). Aside from those, I've not heard about any other remakes for PSOne games. :question:

/Edit:Not counting any Tales game, either. Namco doesn't allow anyone to publish that series other than them.

[Macstorm]

Seriously, all the speculation of XSEED's game being Growlanser? You Atlus Faithful sure do lose faith pretty quickly in your company.

[Decept]

I still believe, Macstorm. I still believe.

[jeffx]

I'm just gonna ignore this thread until E3. IF Atlus don't announce it by then, well yeah I'll be losing a bit of faith.

I still think they should have announced it at the same time as Persona PSP. But they probably announced that one so far in advance to save some bandwidth on their server. Can you imagine how big the request thread for that one would grow? I still remember the P3 FES one(s)... man that was outta control.

[growlanservoter]

Growlanser is a double edged sword here in the US I have come to realize this the past few months. I can uderstand where atlus is coming from if they are hesitant to release this here. Id rather them not release Growlanser than go under cause of bad sales. :(

[Macstorm]

You've got to look at release windows. When they announced Persona PSP there was a ton of games in the upcoming window, but most (all) had been leaked by Amazon.ca. They wanted a win, so bam, Persona PSP announcement. The thing is, the game's still a ways off, so there's a longer window from announcement to release. I imagine the same is true with Growlanser.

I know that some people have doubts about this because of the prior Growlanser games not making it over, but I have no doubts, it's just a matter of when. The formula is there, it's a PSP game, not a game on a system that retailers have trouble supporting (ie. PS2). Atlus isn't afraid of the PSP, see Class of Heroes, Crimson Gem Saga, and those games aren't even Atlus Japan developed where Growlanser is.

I'll go a step further, if you want stats. If not, stop reading now.

I looked at the time between Japanese release and NA release confirmation for some of Atlus's games (Yggdra PSP, Eternal Poison, LA2, P4, Ys 1&2, Dark Spire, Dokapon Journey, Devil Summoner 2, CGS, Persona PSP). The average number of days from Japanese release to NA announcement was 113 days after Japanese release. This was skewed from Persona PSP's announcement 64 days before Japanese release, one of only two games on this list like that. Going with the 113 days, we can say that a September confirmation of Growlanser would still fall within Atlus's normal time frame.

I went a little further, too. Using the games on that list that have an actual release date, I looked at the time from NA announcement to NA release. The average was 110 days. If you estimate a Sept 1 release for Persona PSP, that would be a high 189 days and would bring the average up to 118. Either would still have Growlanser PSP coming out before the end of the year.

It's all about patterns. These patterns aren't set in stone, but they tend to be within this range somewhat. Forget E3, come October if you don't have confirmation, then worry. :)

[Aika]

Seriously, all the speculation of XSEED's game being Growlanser? You Atlus Faithful sure do loose faith pretty quickly in your company.

Speculation doesn't mean a loss of faith. I'm just wondering, as I believe others are, what other PSP games would fit that description.

[Macstorm]

Seriously, all the speculation of XSEED's game being Growlanser? You Atlus Faithful sure do loose faith pretty quickly in your company.

Speculation doesn't mean a loss of faith. I'm just wondering, as I believe others are, what other PSP games would fit that description.

That interview didn't say it was a PSP game.

EDIT: And just remember, speculation makes a spec out of U and some guy named lation.

[Green Card]

Seriously, all the speculation of XSEED's game being Growlanser? You Atlus Faithful sure do loose faith pretty quickly in your company.

Speculation doesn't mean a loss of faith. I'm just wondering, as I believe others are, what other PSP games would fit that description.

That interview didn't say it was a PSP game.

EDIT: And just remember, speculation makes a spec out of U and some guy named lation.

True, but most playstation ports, "enhanced" or not, are ending up on the PSP.

[Macstorm]

True, but most playstation ports, "enhanced" or not, are ending up on the PSP.

True as well. I'm not saying this won't be on the PSP, I'm just saying that it's not stated to be.

[ryuukiee]

Please bring this game to the US! The growlanser games are truly amazing. I'm not sure why everyone hated heritage, I sure didn't it was a great game!

[OverGAR]

Still waiting Growlanser IV and VI xDD

Of course i want this remake of the first one. I'm praying for you Atlus.

[ShadowYuri]

First video revealed, here :

http://www.n4g.com/psp/News-326054.aspx

Come on, Atlus USA !

[jeffx]

Wow, so much English already, plus every item/skill depicted in that video is written in Katakana...

Love the music.

[ShadowYuri]

And so do I.

At least, those who import shouldn't have too much trouble to play it. Until we have an official announcement. ><

[RivalShadeX]

That looks so great, hopefully we hear an announcement for a U.S. release at E3 this year...

[RivalShadeX]

I wish I was in the video game industry, just to go to E3 and see Atlus there XD

[OverGAR]

First video revealed, here :

http://www.n4g.com/psp/News-326054.aspx

Come on, Atlus USA !

Awesome!!! I'm really wating for this!! *praying to Atlus USA*:)

[cj iwakura]

That looks kind of sluggish, to be honest.

[jeffx]

I assume you've played 2 and 3? That looks very much like 2 to me.

[cj iwakura]

Repeatedly. But something about that video doesn't seem as fluid as 2 and 3.

[OverGAR]

I assume you know the first version on psx It wasn't so fluid as this (very slow was if you ask). But now the dynamic is similar to the II and III, don't lie saying is not fluid as those because the difference is not that much.

The 2d sprite is the same, they don't improve that, of course the second and three look better in graphic.

[mdoty1]

I am yet another of the many people who have joined the forums to ask that the Growlanser remake on PSP be released in the US. It would be a shame to pass on this especially since Growlanser 2, 3, and 5 have been brought stateside. Please bring the original out here as well. Thanks.

[growlanservoter]

Here is a wierd idea I just had if ATLUS released the PSP port of G1 they could include 4 or 6 as the the collectors swag ;D
Play-asia gave me the heads up they are getting my game ready to ship so ill have it on the 14th all well it was worth asking ATLUS to translate it though. :) Well back to endless frontier.

[RivalShadeX]

That is really not going to happen, they would lose millions of dollars.

They should release 4 & 6 in a set like 2 & 3, isn't that a better idea?

[jeffx]

That is really not going to happen, they would lose millions of dollars.

You mean 100 billion dollars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY).

[RivalShadeX]

haha, nice gag...

[Tatsuya Suou]

I agree that IV and VI should be in a set if atlus were to localize them. At the end of day for me is that I want the Growlanser games yet to be brought over here. It bugs me that we get II, III and V but not the others, so it is a good thing that the first one is being remade for the psp.

I sometimes find myself posting videos that relate to the game that is being discussed and this should be no different. I found this nice vid of Growlanser I-V that show of the beautiful character art know by Urushihara. The only gameplay of the remake was already posted and the others share the same similarities in it, or so I think. Well I'm of to bed to get ready for work and as usual bring Endless Frontier with me. Later, PERSONA!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2nJI_Mpg24&feature=related

[OverGAR]

Mmh the IV and VI together, what a splendid idea :agree:

I'd buy 999999999999999999999999999999999 copies of a collection like that xD

[RivalShadeX]

They should do a boxset with some extras too, and sell the boxset limited edition for about $59.99 or $69.99, and then sell a game only standard edition for $39.99 or $49.99.

And have the disc arts different for the different versions (Limited and Standard) like Working Designs did for Growlanser Generations.

[cj iwakura]

^Except we want Atlus to stay in business.

[RivalShadeX]

Amen to that...

I want Atlus to exist even after I'm dead.

[Constraint]

They should do a boxset with some extras too, and sell the boxset limited edition for about $59.99 or $69.99, and then sell a game only standard edition for $39.99 or $49.99.

And have the disc arts different for the different versions (Limited and Standard) like Working Designs did for Growlanser Generations.

Working Designs paid too much attention for their fans instead of thinking ahead of their plans. Hence why they're a down business.

[Decept]

They should do a boxset with some extras too, and sell the boxset limited edition for about $59.99 or $69.99, and then sell a game only standard edition for $39.99 or $49.99.

And have the disc arts different for the different versions (Limited and Standard) like Working Designs did for Growlanser Generations.

Working Designs paid too much attention for their fans instead of thinking ahead of their plans. Hence why they're a down business.

Well fans do pay the bills in a way. However, I think that would require too much. I am sure everyone here would just like the game localized and Atlus will probably grace us with something nice if they happen to do it.

[drunkmoron]

They should do a boxset with some extras too, and sell the boxset limited edition for about $59.99 or $69.99, and then sell a game only standard edition for $39.99 or $49.99.

And have the disc arts different for the different versions (Limited and Standard) like Working Designs did for Growlanser Generations.

The thing about doing limited and standard edition of a game is that it only really possible for games that sells a lot. For example game like FF12, GTA, and Soul Calibur sell like 1 million copies so if 5% of copies sold are limited edition that 50k limited edition sold. For a game like Growlanser if 5% of copies sold are limited edition that would only be 5k (probably less). So for niche games like Growlanser limited edition would sell way too little for it to be worth wild unless Atlus jack up the price for them.

[RivalShadeX]

true, but I'm sure everyone on here would buy a limited edition. I would buy both if they did different disc arts for the different versions...

[ErnestLyell]

1 more day till the launching :D

Limited edition or not,I just want the game to get localized :devil:

[growlanservoter]

1 day till Iam playing Growlanser PSP :)

[mxpowar]

Just an FYI, but a Lunar Silver Star remake for PSP has been announced so that might be the PSOne classic that Xseed will be localizing and not Growlanser. I'm still hoping for this game to be localized because it would be a real shame if it stayed in Japan for the second time.

[drunkmoron]

Just an FYI, but a Lunar Silver Star remake for PSP has been announced so that might be the PSOne classic that Xseed will be localizing and not Growlanser. I'm still hoping for this game to be localized because it would be a real shame if it stayed in Japan for the second time.

Xseed localizing Lunar make a lot more sense for me then them localizing Growlanser. I just can't picture Xseed localizing Growlanser for some reason

[jeffx]

Why is this Lunar thing popping up in EVERY SINGLE THREAD? We already have one (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3590).

[Tatsuya Suou]

Luna is nice, but let us get back on topic. Now there are some of you talking about if atlus were to have a limited edition of this game or more to the point, IV and VI, then it will cost them too much money and would fail in sales.

I will now show the two collator sets and try to explain the differences in price and demand as well as what I think atlus should do for both games.

What we have here is the Limited Edition set for Growlanser Generations (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4074/growlansergenerationsup.jpg) and what it contains. This set which goes for 80$ contains a Soundtrack containing 20 or more tracks, a deck of playing cards with the II and III cast, a ring with chain & pouch and a watch with gift case. As you know this has both II and III so for its price and the extras make it an ideal set.

Next is the Growlanser: Heritage of War Limited Edition (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7815/teasergro.jpg) that atlus brought over. This one has a multi-media disc that has music and artwork, three collector pins, two lenticular cards, a keychain and a 100 page artbook. This one only has Growlanser V (aka Heritage of War). Though not as good as the previous set (only V and no IV) this is also good.( however the media disc and artbook are the best additions to this set) The extras were not as fancy as the ones in the Generations set but for 50$ and with a stand alone version, it is more easer to obtain.

Now this is only my option but as far as overall demand between the two, Growlanser Generations was the better set. Not only that it had two games for the price of one, the extras were worth the money. Both the soundtrack and cards can be easily done but the real deal is the ring and watch. Both are well crafted and have a pouch and case to hold them in. And the ring is a real duplicate of the GEM rings in the games. For what its' worth WD went all out with this one, maybe because they knew it would be there last game. Was it the cause of their downfall? Who knows? All I know that they did indeed thought about the fans to the end, I still love this set to this very day. As I said before Atlus one mistake with Heritage of War was only having that and not IV: Wayfarer of the Time to go with it. Even if the extras couldn't top the ones in Generations, it would still sell for having both games in one. ( I own both and even though I said that V’s extras aren’t as great as Generations, I still love both of them equally)

Now as to what I think atlus should do with this and VI. I feel that if they do a collector set they should keep it simple as before but worth paying extra for it. They could include a media disc with it, or a soundtrack similar to Generations.
They could also include another art book like the did with Heritage of War, or even make a game themed item like the ring and watch, maybe another gem ring would do or perhaps a figurine. Or they can go the extra mile for IV and VI by including non other than the Growlanser IV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgreNAjIxSs&feature=related) /OVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IhPVNU-W8&feature=related)on a separate dvd. This alone can make an excellent spoils because not only it tells the story for IV and has yet to be released in the US but it will show more of the beautiful artwork of Urushihara. However this would work more with the suggestion for VI to go with IV. For the psp remake they could do a data disc showing a chronological history of I though VI with artwork of all six games. The artbook that atlus had with Heritage of War dose have artwork of the games before it (including IV) but with this I suggest an updated version that includes VI as well.

So that’s what I think would work for Limited Edition of both the remake and IV and VI. I hope atlus would think to bring these games over so we could have Urushihara finest RPG series complete in the US.

[growlanservoter]

Ah beans I am stuck and there are no guides on game faqs yet lol.

[OverGAR]

Ah beans I am stuck and there are no guides on game faqs yet lol.

Then wait for a fast english realese xD

[Tsuko]

The thing is, SCEA will not allow straight ports to be localized, so this title (and Persona for that matter) have to have at least some changes (can be minor) in order not to be considered a straight port. If they do this, this title will be allowed over here.

In any case, I'm a HUGE SRPG fan, and I'd love to have this. (it is SRPG right?)

Sony doesnt do that anymore, they lost alot of money in the past because of it

[aprilsmay87]

I'm just posting here to give my support for a Growlanser port! I purchased Generations on impulse a few years ago and have been a fan of this little-known series ever since. Growlanser II in particular was a great game, and I mainly want this to be localized so that I can learn more about the awesome characters that were a part of that game.

[ShadowYuri]

Four new videos (with voice acting), and new screenshots featuring Wallace.

http://www.n4g.com/psp/News-329192.aspx

[growlanservoter]

That vid was epic thanks for posting it. :D

[Aizuku]

Other than Growlanser 2, 3 and 5 what else did we get in NA? These are the only ones I played, it seems to me that the first, fourth and sixth never saw a NA release.


Atlus USA should bring the whole series here. I think Growlanser for the PSP is the first real reason for me to get a PSP, and I will if that's the only way I'm gonna play.

[aprilsmay87]

Other than Growlanser 2, 3 and 5 what else did we get in NA? These are the only ones I played, it seems to me that the first, fourth and sixth never saw a NA release.


Atlus USA should bring the whole series here. I think Growlanser for the PSP is the first real reason for me to get a PSP, and I will if that's the only way I'm gonna play.

Yes, those three are the only members of the Growlanser series that have been localized for the U.S. I've personally only played Generations (made up of II and III).

With regard to the whole series, I think it'd be a good thing for them to all come over as well. I heard IV is easily one of the best in the series (people talk about it like VI in the Final Fantasy series). The first Growlanser game is of special importance though. Even if we don't get the other games, we will have access to a trilogy of sorts if it is released (made up of I, II, and III, which--if I'm not mistaken--are all connected to each others' histories). I honestly would be happy with just Growlanser I because it's been the only game in the series that I have REALLY REALLY wanted to learn more about over the last couple years since I've completed Generations.

[Tatsuya Suou]

As I said, I own Generations and Heritage of War. I don't know much of IV but if what the post above said is true than it is more of a reason for atlus to include it with VI. (And I can understand now why there is an OVA for IV)

And just to prove a point on my last post. I was in my local mall that has two gamestops in it. And both gamestops have used copies of Growlanser Heritage of War and no Generations. So like a said before, even though atlus "discontinued" the game, Heritage of War can still be found with little problem.

[growlanservoter]

4 will never come over here :(

[Tatsuya Suou]

Dude never give up hope. Atlus can still include this with VI regardless how old it is. For those who wonder about the anime I found a clip of it in case those missed on my other post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgreNAjIxSs&feature=related

[cj iwakura]

I'm pretty sure IV is never coming out here. VI has a chance, but that's looking radically bleak right about now.

[LordGeo]

I'm pretty sure IV is never coming out here. VI has a chance, but that's looking radically bleak right about now.

Well, it took Spectral Force 3 two years before it came over, and this July will be Growlanser VI's 2nd year since release... So it could still happen.

Not likely by any means, but still possible.

[ShadowYuri]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about the Growlanser PSP remake ? :P

[Tatsuya Suou]

I'm pretty sure IV is never coming out here. VI has a chance, but that's looking radically bleak right about now.

Well, it took Spectral Force 3 two years before it came over, and this July will be Growlanser VI's 2nd year since release... So it could still happen.

Not likely by any means, but still possible.

Well it was worth a try, I still hope for the best. Who knows, atlus could surprise us with the two games and the remake at the same time.

[cj iwakura]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about the Growlanser PSP remake ? :P

It's practically the same topic, since we all want both G1 and G6. :P

[RivalShadeX]

This became the Growlanser game suggestion thread, not just Growlanser PSP, because we all want them sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[growlanservoter]

Its easier having one growlanser thread than 3or 4 lol. :D

[RivalShadeX]

:agree:It really is, plus, it's easier for them to see that we want all of the missing Growlanser games here...

[Tatsuya Suou]

Soooo, should we make this the Growlanser series thread?:p Also thread of Growlanser VI: Precarious World is over here (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=565)

[GFSummoner]

Atlus, if you guys bring this to the US, I will buy a PSP! Although it isn't much of a incentive, since PSP purchases do not directly benefit your company- I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't the port of Valkyrie Profile or the Final Fantasy faire or any of the PSP-exclusive titles, but the slight possibility of first Growlanser game to reach American shores has got me counting my money.

I have enormous respect for the Growlanser series and Atlus.

[RivalShadeX]

I bought a PSP for Atlus publishing Riviera and Yggra Union on PSP (even though I had the Gameboy Advance Versions)...

[ShadowYuri]

(Yggdra Union on PSP was a HUGE improvement over the original, IMO)

Since Atlus just announced another game for fall 2009, we can start to cross fingers, maybe we'll hear about this in the following weeks !

[Gear Master Blitz]

I will always keep a small amount of hope until Atlus comes out and officially says "We won't localize this game." It's a shame that more people haven't discovered the awesomeness of the Growlanser series. I guess it's just not "mainstream" enough, like the FF games where all they have to do is say "it's released" and people will run for the stores to buy a copy without knowing anything about how good or bad the game is. (Please no FF sucks or FF rules flames, I'm not saying either, it's just an example.)

[replicax77]

With E3 coming up maybe there will be an announcement? I hope for one anyway.

[kat_ears_kahrain]

Apparently it was the second best selling game the recent week...
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Gimme my Growlanser! WARGH!!

[Kari]

Second best under the new Bleach fighting game. Bleach sold 40k-some, Growlanser sold 23k.

[kat_ears_kahrain]

Second best under the new Bleach fighting game. Bleach sold 40k-some, Growlanser sold 23k.

Yeah, but I'm already expecting that Bleach game to come out over here eventually... Growlanser though... I keep hoping.

[growlanservoter]

I got to say the game is asome so far it's not as frustraiting like 4. In fact all the difficult areas in the other 5 games don't compare to alot of the garbage you put up with in 4. (Hugs his copy of growlanser 4) <3

[RivalShadeX]

You've imported them all? I want to but I'd have to buy a Jap. PS2 and then I still need to learn Japanese... :D

[cj iwakura]

I've imported IV just to check it out. Combat seems like more of II & III's goodness, but the first female you meet has the worst design ever.

[Dragon God]

Should this make it here, I'd love to give it a shot.

[growlanservoter]

I own the 3 english releases and then I imported 4 & 6 and modded my ps2. Then when it finally breathed its last I broke down and imported a Japanese Ps2 with fate unlimited codes and Acrcana Hearts 2 with my taxes I recived. :D I've never played 1 until now.

[Tatsuya Suou]

Like I posted in this thread (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6&page=44), I just don't have the money to either mod a PS2/PS3 or get a Japanese unit. Even if I would to get one, I would need a translation so I can know the story. It is good for those who want to know what the gameplay is like by importing, but for me the story is just as important. Hope this and the others come over here soon.

[growlanservoter]

This tread has the highest post number after the super robot wars thread I am begining to see a similarity lol. And that is that we will be waiting an eternity for an answer. Anyways back on track can anyone point me to a good faq for this game I seem to be stuck and I can't figure out where to go next lol.

[Tatsuya Suou]

lol Got that right, as of now both threads need to be in five stars in order for a better chance to see results. And the fact that you’re now stuck after just getting the game is reason only of me not partake in importing RPGs.

[Decept]

And the fact that you’re now stuck after just getting the game is reason only of me not partake in importing RPGs.

That, and good or bad, I still need somewhat of a story to keep me going sometimes.

[CurryStorm]

I also really hope this gets translated. I would buy this day 1 along with GL4 and/or GL6. I just finished GL5 and enjoyed it more than I did GL2 and GL3. I read so many bad reviews and negative comments about GL5 that it took me to now to finally open it up and play it, but I'm sure glad I did.

[growlanservoter]

There should be a faq up for it sooner or later for now ill go back to playing 6 .

[Clephas]

C'mon Atlus, bring this over. You know you want to.

[ShadowYuri]

Let us cross fingers it will be announced next week at E3. ;)

[ErnestLyell]

Hmm,as faithful as I think I am,I don't think that's going to happen :(

So don't bite your tongue if it doesn't happen :devil:

Although I still hope that it will make it :frown:

But Atlus has neglected Growlanser way too much :grouphug:

[Tatsuya Suou]

I will only agree with you once atlus announces the games. You never know, they may surprise us.

[Macstorm]

Just wait, people. Tomorrow will have Atlus fans drooling.

[Tatsuya Suou]

Indeed; one can't say for sure until tomorrow. To end this with a bang I have below a compilation of all of the Growlanser openings, from I to VI. Hope you enjoy and we will see tomorrow.

The Growlanser Saga
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkM_WF42fE&feature=related)

[ErnestLyell]

Hmm,1 more day to go :D,how many hours remained again ?

I hope that Atlus will somehow surprise me ;)

Nice vid,Tatsuya,but I prefer the NA OP for Growlanser II and III :seesaw:

[Tatsuya Suou]

Thanks! :) I found it not to long ago. I agree that I like the English version of Growlanser III; it's one of my favorite RPG OPs. Below it the other video I posted a few pages pack, a nice little amv of I though V. I’ll call it “ the Growlanser Legacy”.


The Growlanser Legacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2nJI_Mpg24&feature=related)

[growlanservoter]

Woot thanks Tatsuya Suou that was awsome 6 still has the best opening IMO

[Tatsuya Suou]

Glad you liked them. Personally I love all of them, but my favorite is III. Also for all who view this thread. We still have tomorrow for more announcements by atlus. You never know, this might be one of the games to get announced.

[growlanservoter]

Macstorm its tomorrow and iam not drooling ;p

[Tatsuya Suou]

Oh wow I just realized something, aside from a few games earlier in the morning, this and SRT:OG are the only ones to that stayed on the top. (I guess I am somewhat to blame for that) I'm sure we will find out someting sooner or later.

[Decept]

Looks like the door has been closed on this for now.

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118613#post118613

[Aika]

Looks like the door has been closed on this for now.

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118613#post118613

This game being announced was the only thing I was waiting for this E3. Needless to say I'm incredibly disappointed...

[Tatsuya Suou]

I am still waiting for tomorrow. The door may be closed, but we can still get announcements this week.

[Decept]

I only say that cause he said in his post "last un-announced" so I could be wrong, and I actually hope that I am wrong.

[Aika]

They pretty much said that was it, though. :/

I don't really see another company picking it up, either...

[SomethingDifferent]

This game being announced was the only thing I was waiting for this E3. Needless to say I'm incredibly disappointed...

My thoughts exactly. I was waiting for this or Sacred Blaze, turns out neither one was announced.

Still, it's not like E3 was our last hope or something. I still believe Atlus will bring this over at some point. Remember how long it took for Poison Pink and the GBA Summon Night games to be localized?

[Aika]

This game being announced was the only thing I was waiting for this E3. Needless to say I'm incredibly disappointed...

My thoughts exactly. I was waiting for this or Sacred Blaze, turns out neither one was announced.

Still, it's not like E3 was our last hope or something. I still believe Atlus will bring this over at some point. Remember how long it took for Poison Pink and the GBA Summon Night games to be localized?

That's true, but it seems Atlus already has a ton of stuff on their plate. How much more can they afford to handle? With every new announcement I just feared that was one step farther from them localizing this.

Not that I mean to be a downer... I've just been waiting for someone to pick up this game since its PS1 days and really thought this stood a chance of getting picked up once it was announced for the PSP. :/

Out of curiosity, though, how long did Poison Pink and the Summon Night games take?

[SomethingDifferent]

Out of curiosity, though, how long did Poison Pink and the Summon Night games take?

Poison Pink/Eternal Poison took nine months (just checked the release date... strange, I was pretty sure it was exactly one year... but whatever).

As for the Summon Night Swordcraft Story games, three years (!) for the first and two for the second.

I don't know if I would still have any hopes for Growlanser after three years (I sure don't have any hopes left for VI anymore >_>) but I wouldn't be surprised if the announcement came around February or March next year. Until then, we can only do our best to keep the hope alive.

[Tatsuya Suou]

Well I am keeping hope alive. Even if it is a small chance, I still want to believe that atlus will try one more time with this game. (Though I may have to surrender on IV for the now)

[Aika]

Out of curiosity, though, how long did Poison Pink and the Summon Night games take?

Poison Pink/Eternal Poison took nine months (just checked the release date... strange, I was pretty sure it was exactly one year... but whatever).

As for the Summon Night Swordcraft Story games, three years (!) for the first and two for the second.

I don't know if I would still have any hopes for Growlanser after three years (I sure don't have any hopes left for VI anymore >_>) but I wouldn't be surprised if the announcement came around February or March next year. Until then, we can only do our best to keep the hope alive.

I actually own all those games, but was never aware they took that long to be announced! Well, that is encouraging. :O

It's just so easy to get discouraged with this title because it was passed up before, I just hope this time around it has a better chance. I long gave up on the other Growlanser games, unfortunately... Then again Sony announced at their conference that over 100 PS2 titles will be released this year, so, maybe...? I honestly would not mind if they announced it and I had to wait two years for it, it just would be nice to know if they were even at least interested. :/

[Lucethira]

That's true, but it seems Atlus already has a ton of stuff on their plate. How much more can they afford to handle? With every new announcement I just feared that was one step farther from them localizing this.

Not that I mean to be a downer... I've just been waiting for someone to pick up this game since its PS1 days and really thought this stood a chance of getting picked up once it was announced for the PSP. :/


Much agreed and feel for you. I'm playing the Japanese version anyway but it feels unfair that those who don't know Japanese cannot properly enjoy it, especially the fans who've wanted to play it since 'Generations' by WD.

Well, it is still "relatively" early for this game to have an announcement and there is plenty of time before losing hope. Growlanser isn't a high-priority for Atlus, and it'll just take some time. For example, if I am correct, 'Growlanser V' was released in Japan in August 2006, and it wasn't until May of 2007 (that's 10 months later!) that the announcement for a NA release showed up (for September 2007, five months later).

Either way I hope they know there's great interest in this game and I daresay our patience should be rewarded.

Side note, I love Aika! Skies of Arcadia's lovely.

[growlanservoter]

No announcement :( I figured as much Growlanser is the niche of niche titles that we may never see again ><

[ErnestLyell]

Sigh,so there is no announcement after all :frown:

Somehow I'm not surprise :bs:

I've been waiting for the localizing of this game for 10 years and there's still no hope :frown:

What a shame ! :very_sad:

BAh,whatever,I don't care anymore,Jap or Eng,I'm off to study Japanese:devil:

[Clephas]

I think its kind of ridiculous that Atlus isn't seeing fit to bring this over. Growlanser has enough fans to easily support a release... just look at this thread.

[growlanservoter]

Thank god for region free games :D I ccouldnt have afforded a Jap PSP ^^

[Tatsuya Suou]

That is true, unfortunately that only applies to the PSP/DS and the 360/PS3. I can't even consider buying a Japanese’s PS3 after finding out today that my US one broke down. By the way are you still stuck on the game?

[growlanservoter]

nope I am almost finished with it now ^^

[Decept]

nope I am almost finished with it now ^^

I don't think I could play it without a story.

[OverGAR]

nope I am almost finished with it now ^^

I don't think I could play it without a story.

Me neither, I don't Know japanese and I'm so sad :sad:

[Lucethira]

Worst case scenario, if no US company publishes this, you could import and follow the English translated script of the PSX version on Gamefaqs. I reckon that fan-translating the new scenes in the PSP version could be accomplished quicker than AtlusUSA even announcing a NA release, if it ever exists.
But constantly having to turn your eyes from the game screen to a script in order to play is no fun and would make you dizzy

Growlanser doesn't deserve to have to be played like this.
All you can do is give them more time and try not to get fed up with waiting so long.

[aprilsmay87]

I can understand the dissapointment with the lack of an e3 announcement, but why all the hopelessness? IMO, Growlanser still has a great chance of being localized. Lots of Atlus fans would buy it, it's the first in its series, it's a relatively stable PSP RPG, and it's effective in basically the same vein that Persona is effective (namely, a PSP remake that does the originals justice).

I think someone (check out Macstorm's post on page 9) said that we shouldn't lose hope until the fall comes and goes. Apparently Atlus' game release schedule is pretty staggered and depends on a number of things (including the presence of leaks). I've heard a number of people say that the NA announcement of Persona was too early. Alongside of this is the fact that many feel Atlus' e3 lineup was kind of empty or disappointing, which I can certainly understand--it seems like no attention was paid to the top two requested games on this forum and releases for the second half have not been fully fleshed out (ex.: Persona doesn't yet have a release date). So why lose hope? It's honestly hard for me to do so because I can picture Atlus announcing a Growlanser localization anywhere from now until October. Plus, if what Tatsuya said is true, it's not like the admins are completely ignorant of our support for Growlanser.

I apologize if anything I wrote above is wonky or incorrect, I honestly don't know as much as others do about release dates and things like that in the gaming industry. I DO frequent lots of forums for news on my favorite games, though, so I'll be sure to mention anything I come across. :) If this thread on Neogaf is to be believed, a lot of people (besides just us) are waiting for some news on Growlanser-->http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364043&page=3.

Don't lose hope, people!

[growlanservoter]

The guide iam using has a full story break down /translation so you can better understand the game ^^

[ErnestLyell]

That translation guide of Borgor is an excellent FAQ but I still want to get the game localized or wait for someone to make a patch

I don't want to turn on my PC and play the game while reading the FAQ,it's a kind of electric waste :devil: (I played the original PS1 game on the emulator so......it's more convenient to read the FAQ) :D

BTW,I'm losing my hope now,little by little

My hope gauge now is 97/100 but I guess it will drop soon enough

P/S: Aw man

[JQJDaMan]

Please bring this game to the U.S. Atlus. There are a lot of fans in the U.S. that want to play this game in English

[Crevanille]

Honestlyu seeing as companies these days only seem to really care about their bottom line I seriously doubt on any moreGrowlasner titles past or future to come out stateside. I mean the decision to release Heritage of War over Wayfarere of Time was. quite frankly. a huge mistake on Atlus' part simply becasue Wayfarere of Time was just a superior game overall compared to HoW. Now I could be accused as being ignorant of the inner policies concerning what games get released where but the fanbase speaks for itself in its shared desire to see these rare gems on US shores. I've been a loyal Atlus supporter for quite some time but to be honest I'm just tired of only seeing priority given to games that will get the most returns versus actually caring about the niche titles that the fans cry out for.....

Every now and then I'll be surprised to see that these games get to come out but more often then not I find myself wondering if these "suggestion" threads amount to little more then as an outlet to vent in which case I may as well resign myself to forgo posting again anytime in the near future as complaining about these issues seldom if ever engenders a positive response.

that being said I would agree that giving Atlus time would be the most prudent thing, if not the only thing to do with regards to an NA release of Growlasner 1 for the PSP. To be honest having seen the PSX original, Wayfarer of Time and Precarious World for the PS2 come and go without nary much a glimmer of hope with regards to a US release I'm just tired of even hoping. It's the the reason I now refuse to even buy or support NIS America titles never mind their total lack of care and incompetence with the localizations of their last few titles.

I apologize for the rant but I'm just fed up with Atlus' poor decisions on releases as of late.
Now I'm not talking about any games in the Megaten metaseries or what have you but to not see any other IPs of note is just sad pure and simple.

Again I apologize for the rather lengthy rant but I'm just a huge Growlanser fan who, like many others I'm sure, is just tired of hoping for the series to recieve the chnace it so richly deserves. ...

[SomethingDifferent]

If you posted that at least six months from now, I'd sympathize with you. But right now... for the love of God, people, IT'S TOO EARLY! >____>

The game just barely got released in Japan and we all know (or at least should know) announcements for less popular games usually take longer than something like Persona. This IS coming over sooner or later, just have a bit of faith in Atlus and chill out for now.

[Macstorm]

If you posted that at least six months from now, I'd sympathize with you. But right now... for the love of God, people, IT'S TOO EARLY! >____>

The game just barely got released in Japan and we all know (or at least should know) announcements for less popular games usually take longer than something like Persona. This IS coming over sooner or later, just have a bit of faith in Atlus and chill out for now.

Preach on, brother. People need to have some patience.

[cj iwakura]

Sometimes I fear the die hard Growlanser fans are actually hurting our chances.

[ErnestLyell]

Who knows ..... ;)

We've been waiting for 10 years so it won't hurt that much if we wait for 1 or 2 more years :devil:

But if Atlus chooses to drop this title for good then it's useless to wait :frown:

I hope Atlus will give us a little more hints :bs:

.......Whatever,God bless you Atlus :agree:

[drunkmoron]

Some of this talk reminds me of how the thread for growlanser 5 went with all the pessimism and we all know how that turns out. Don't lose hope, this game was released in Japan only a month ago. It took Atlus a whole year to release G5 and they didn't even announce it until half a year after its release in Japan

[Lucethira]

I can understand the exasperation of waiting so long. Sometimes it has even proved to be futile. Currently, less than half of Growlanser series made it to NA, and even the ones that did, struggled to get here.
Hopefully this time is different. Why, it could secretly be in localization production right now. However, to me it's better to be pessimistic and get pleasantly surprised than to be optimistic and get let down.

[jeffx]

From a Siliconera interview (http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/12/the-e3-2009-shin-megami-tensei-interview-part-1/):

What’s going on with Growlanser?

YN: It’s doing very well in Japan right now. Over here, we really don’t have any plans at this moment.

Woah, hey there Growlanser fans... put down your weapons!

[OverGAR]

:frown::frown:

Okay they don't planning nothing now and It is bad new for me.

[ErnestLyell]

So Atlus confirmed itself that they don't really have any plan for this series right now ..... How surprising :seesaw:

In a Silconera interview long ago,they said that GL never exploded in the USA just like Persona did .....:mad:

Well it's true if Growlanser got translated but they didn't.....:mad:

I have a theory like this : :idea:

GL I&IV got translated => The gamers have another opinions about the whole series => The sale ratio of this series improves => Atlus realize the potential of GL =>An even better GL V (or VI) is created => we wouldn't be here frowning over this title :lol:

But the theory above failed right at the first phase ,so .......:frown:

Who knows.....maybe we will see GL got translated in another 10 years :yawn: in a 3D style :o

Whatever .....I hope that Atlus will at least make GLVII :grouphug:

[Tatsuya Suou]

You know I feel you on the disappointing news as of late; it’s the same thing as SRT. You're theory is a bit more sane than the one I posted for the one in SRT: OG. But like you said who knows, I'll wait it out by the end of the year than I may consider importing the PSP one. (consider it more if there are plans later in the year on a translation of it)

[Lucethira]

YN: It’s doing very well in Japan right now. Over here, we really don’t have any plans at this moment.

Pessimistic Lu: I'm not surprised. I'm glad I learned Japanese, I'm playing Growlanser PSP right now, so it doesn't matter to me if it gets localized. It just feels unfair somehow. After all it wasn't too long ago that I was in the same boat.

Optimistic Lu: If I'm not mistaken, I believe that in the gaming industry, its workers are under "non-disclosure pacts", so they cannot reveal their real plans if the time is not right. Either way it would naturally take 1-3 years before we possibly see a NA release.

[growlanservoter]

Yea for 3 year intervals...XP Quite personally though I never took to persona or the devil summonor series. But any any case is it possible to get the game via download from the PSN network like capcom is doing with Fate/unlimited codes for the PSP?

[cj iwakura]

Look at the bright side: that was their same stance on Persona 3: FES, and that did get a release. Let's positive thinking, or something.

[Gunloc]

I wouldn't give up hope yet. Atlus totally dodged the question in a recent RPGamer interview so they might just be playing coy.

With the amount of really niche PSP titles they have released lately, I don't see why they would pass over one that already has a loyal fan base.

[Macstorm]

Does anyone really think that Atlus would just come out in an interview and say "Oh, we're going to release that, but we can't really say anything about it now... oh wait. Whoops. Ignore what I just said."

[Aika]

The only positive side to this is that it's not a flat out "no." They've denied interest in games before. I'm just not sure what to think at this point since they did pass on the game the first time around on the PS1...so, yes, my faith is a little rocky (and I believe I have every right to feel that way).

Is it odd for any company to at least say something along the lines that specific titles are being considered or looked into? I never expect any company to just come out and say they have it, and I don't think anyone here was expecting that, either.

[Decept]

The problem is if they said anything other than what they did, it would have been mistaken as "OMG they are releasing Growlanser!"

Look at the reporter that took "the next persona will be on either PS3 or 360" to "OMG, Persona 5 will be released on PS3/360." or something along those lines, I don't remember the exact quote.

Macstorm is right.

[Aika]

Ah, I forgot about that "Persona 5" article. That's a really good point.

[Tatsuya Suou]

Macstorm dose indeed make a good point. Interviews tend to blow things out of proportion. Just because they said that there are no plans does not mean they will not bring the game later. Plus it is for question on persona interview so anything unrelated will not be given a definite answer. (the same can be said for SRT:OG) Atlus psp line up is only growing so in time this game will be included soon. Ninja Vanish!!

[ErnestLyell]

Sigh.....,still no news :frown:

Still waiting :yawn:

BTW,can anyone upload a complete save game for Growlanser IV and VI (including all the CG scenes),I never got all the endings but I still want to see all the CGs

[cj iwakura]

Not looking good, is it? :( If they pass this up in favor of more mediocre PSP RPGs(*coughCrimsonGem*), I'm going to be most saddened.

[ErnestLyell]

Sigh,they would rather to localize some half-bad RPGs than a long-time series ? :yawn:

I think they should give this series 1 more chance,it's their fault to choose GL V to localize in the first place. :frown:

If not,then I think that the end of this series is coming near :frown:

[RivalShadeX]

Crimson Gem Saga is actually a really good game, but I agree that I'm surprised they went for that instead of a series like this...

[cj iwakura]

It could be, but I've heard it's ridiculously easy. It's not exactly an in-depth experience.

I won't knock them for localizing Growlanser V. Better something than nothing, but they shouldn't judge the series' merits off the failure of a mediocre Growlanser.

[RivalShadeX]

Difficulty is irrelevant in whether the game is good or not, nor does it have to do with how in-depth it is...

[Zombie_Punk]

I would say difficulty is relevant to whether or not a game is good. If it is difficult to the point where it is not fun, I would think that would make a bad game.

[ErnestLyell]

Still waiting :grouphug:

God bless Growlanser :seesaw:

[cj iwakura]

If they are still localizing this,they better be planning one epic reveal.

[shatteredhalo]

I literally created this account for the purpose of saying...

Day one. >.>

[Aika]

If they are still localizing this,they better be planning one epic reveal.

I'd be satisfied and shocked if they localized it at all at this point. Lately I find myself not caring much about their recent announcements. :frown:

[cj iwakura]

If they are still localizing this,they better be planning one epic reveal.

I'd be satisfied and shocked if they localized it at all at this point. Lately I find myself not caring much about their recent announcements. :frown:

I can see why, since they're going out of their way to localize every PSP game except Growlanser.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I was really looking forward to seeing this translated, especially by our beloved Atlus... ;__;

Here's hoping for a surprise reveal.

[Aika]

If they are still localizing this,they better be planning one epic reveal.

I'd be satisfied and shocked if they localized it at all at this point. Lately I find myself not caring much about their recent announcements. :frown:

I can see why, since they're going out of their way to localize every PSP game except Growlanser.

That's exactly what it seems like to me. I'm sure they are hesitant due to Growlanser 5 not selling all that well, but that's a bit unfair to judge the rest of the series's sales based on that.

I'm just really confused with their choices of games thus far, many of which I've purchased and enjoyed, but haven't sold all that well. I mean, really, who thought something like My World My Way or Crimson Gem Saga (both of which I own and DO enjoy playing, though) would produce better sales? I really...don't get it. :frown:

[Soushi_Grapple]

I don't know if it has anything to do with it, because IIRC both sets had a regular release, but does it have anything to do with all the games in the past being released as uber editions?

[cj iwakura]

Growlanser could sell strictly on account of its cult status. If they can give Devil Summoner 4 a one-shot release, Growlanser deserves the same chance.

[ErnestLyell]

I must admit that I'm rather bored with the SMT series lately ,IMHO :yawn:

I play Devil Survivor for about an hour and then turn it off right away :very_sad:

I think they should create a fresh change and give Growlanser a chance to see the sun rise in America :devil:

A limited edition for this game is fine by me ;)

Whatever,blah blah blah blah ..... :yawn:

[Inzaghi]

I play Devil Survivor for about an hour and then turn it off right away :very_sad:

Interesting you should say that, since it was directed by Shinjiro Takada, the Growlanser series director.

[jeffx]

Le Zing.

[cj iwakura]

I play Devil Survivor for about an hour and then turn it off right away :very_sad:

Interesting you should say that, since it was directed by Shinjiro Takada, the Growlanser series director.

Interesting.


And I like Devil Survivor, frustrating battles aside.

[cj iwakura]

Never mind.

[Lucethira]

Interesting you should say that, since it was directed by Shinjiro Takada, the Growlanser series director.

It does not matter even if the whole team was the same. Different games are different. Even among the Growlanser series with the "mainstay 3" (Takada, Haduki, Urushihara) each installment is kind of a different experience.

Anyway... I believe y'all still have plenty of time to wait out since localizations take at least several months after the JP release. Take a "mainstream" example, Final Fantasy Dissidia. Released last year in Japan but just "recently" (well, 1 and half months ago) got a NA announcement. I just hope your patience will be rewarded for Growlanser. Might I add Growlanser 1 is kind of a long game with lots of blabbering, which would take time in localization production.

[cj iwakura]

I really hope you're right.

[ErnestLyell]

Being created by the same director doesn't mean that the game is gonna be the same :)

The theme of Growlanser is somehow lighthearted while the theme of Devil Survivor is somwhow dark (the same with the whole SMT series) :o

And lastly,Growlanser is a strategy RPG game where you could freely roam around while DS is a Turn-based-grid game where you choose location to go to,the gameplay is way too different how could they be similar in the first place ?:confused:

I hope Shinjiro Takada didn't follow the SMT style and keeps the Growlanser style for DS instead :devil:

Honestly,if they managed to mix Growlanser and SMT gameplay,it will be a brand new
fresh change :)

...............Never mind me

Lately,I find myself lose interest in a lot of things

And I hope they add more content to the US version,if it will ever be localized :devil:

How about localize Growlanser for the PS2 ?

[Ozymandias]

Yeah why not just make a really limited release like with Stella Deus.

Don't make this become another Earthbound situation (even though that game does admittidly have a higher status) where the amount of people sending demands alone would of ensured the game breaking even only to have Nintendo go "Why would we release this obscure title that wouldn't sell?"

I have faith that I will be hearing something in the Fall

[Kakizaki]

Can some of you stop with the emoticon abuse? It doesn't help the readability of your posts...

[Olethros]

:o:devil: Wait a minute here. :surprise:

Emoticons can be abused???? :confused::frown::very_sad:

Poor little guys, can't somebody help them? :grouphug::agree::lovefirefox:

[SickleCellAnemia]

:agree::agree::agree::agree:
Hugs to Olethros and Kaki!!!
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug::grouphug: :grouphug:

[Tatsuya Suou]

:lol:.....Damnit you two..

Anyway in regards to Inzaghi stating that it was Growlansers director, Shinjiro Takada at the helm of Devil Survivor is somewhat of a moot point. As Lucethira said that even though it was from the same director, it is still two different games. The results as to whether or not a new type of game made be a director of another type will turn out good varies. For example, MGS Hideo Kojima made other games like Policenauts, Snatcher and Boktai. Each fundamentally different from each other and each have made a name for themselves. (one series that is not of those three that Kojima made is one of my favorites, Zone of the Enders) I can't say Devil Survivor is good or not because I haven't played it (plus I not a fan of first person RPGS, dragon quest ex.) though I do like its style and how it is loosely connected to the SMT series.

For those who are getting impatient, don't worry; this will come down the line soon for the US. Atlus is constantly bringing many PSP titles that won't see the light of day anywhere else. I mean they just surprised many with Rumble of the Kenka Bancho (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3949) (tentative name lol) a game nobody will think will come over here. I feel that right now this has a better chance than IV and VI; for now I will have to give up on seeing them to the US. (I hope they get re-released for the PS3) And you can bet when it dose come here then we will see spoils for it; The question will be then what kind of spoils. :)

[ErnestLyell]

If they already announce Kenka Bancho,....... :bs:

I don't know why they still haven't announce Growlanser yet if they ever plan to localize it ? :seesaw:

[Gunloc]

Well, Kenka Bancho 3 came out in Japan last year, so it's not like they skipped Growlanser in favor of it.

I'm trying to stay hopeful, it's still my most wanted Atlus game by far and I hope they'll deliver.

[Kesseki]

I'd also buy it, for what it's worth. :) And preorder for spoils.

[Macstorm]

How ever many times I have to preach patience, I will. Believe.

[growlanservoter]

I have patience cause i have all the grolanser games :) i can wait lol
I have been playing Super robot wars :D

[Soushi_Grapple]

-waits patiently -

[kat_ears_kahrain]

-waits patiently -

Eh... I'm always impatient when it comes to games. *starts tapping foot*
*tap*
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*tap*
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*tap**tap**tap**tap**tap*

...I wonder what else I can play, since this isn't looking likely...(*cry*)

[ErnestLyell]

blah blah blah blah blah :bs:

Hmm,whatever,they'd better localize Growlanser :exclaim:

I wish that Working Designs were alive,they are truly fantastic publishers :frown:

[CoarseDragon]

I really enjoyed Growlanser (all of them) putting it on the PSP is a great idea. Or even PSN would be fine.

[Hraesvelgr]

I wish that Working Designs were alive,they are truly fantastic publishers :frown:Hm, yeah, outside of the fact that they released their games at ridiculous prices, had horrible voice acting, a few minor (but irksome) changes to their localization and took forever to release one game... I guess they were interested in some titles that would be considered niche even amongst the niche market, but... can't say they were too great outside of that, in my opinion.

But hey, if Atlus decides to release more Growlanser, I'm fine with it.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I didn't find WD's VAs that bad... I rather liked them. But the prices and the wait (according to some, I didn't find them until the rerelease of Lunar 2) sounds pretty lame to me. I neverminded the jokes because they didn't interfere with the plot that I remember. I don't see what everyone's problem with it was aside the fact that Victor is a jerk, their prices were double what other PSX games were, and the wait between games was horrible.

I'm proud of Atlus USA, releasing so many games each month I can't keep up. ;p

[ErnestLyell]

I think WDs' VA is decent enough :devil: And the wait is actually just a small problem considering that we know the game will surely be localized.For instant,right now,we're still waiting for something that's very far away to reach

And WDs, despite its flaws ,is the publisher that you'll want to count on to release such a niche game like Growlanser :seesaw:

BTW,I hate SCEA and their dirty play on Growlanser Generations :mad:

[Goldark]

If they are going to localise the Growlanser series then they could try Langrisser while they are at it ;-)

[Soushi_Grapple]

Goldark, you stole the words from my brain! XD

[Clephas]

I don't remember any of the Working Designs games being overpriced... though the deluxe version of Growlanser was indeed high-priced above the standard for PS2 games.

[cj iwakura]

If they are going to localise the Growlanser series then they could try Langrisser while they are at it ;-)

You have the classiest username/avatar.

[Clephas]

Yeah, I compliment you on your taste in games, Goldark. Dragon Force is easily one of the best games of all time.

[Soushi_Grapple]

One of the few WD games I still need, IIRC. Curse you Sega CD and/or Saturn, your RPGs steal my monies. ;o;

[cj iwakura]

If it wasn't for Lunar, Dragon Force would be the best WD game of all time. It's still a solid contender for sheer replay value.

[Clephas]

I dunno. I still play Dragon Force now, and I don't even get a vague urge to play Lunar anymore. Dragon Force is a game I've beaten over a hundred times and I still enjoy playing it... Lunar just didn't have that kind of replay value.

[cj iwakura]

Agreed, but I replayed Lunar and it was still very good and worth a second run. Even if it doesn't quite have replay value going for it, it does have challenge.

[Clephas]

True. And Lunar's story is compelling, for all that it might seem like normal rpg fare to experienced players.

[zippedpinhead]

I have bought two different copies of Growlanser generations and Heritage of War.

I Wish it was easy just to translate the game and release it via PSN only. It would eliminate the costly packaging, distribution, and merchant sections of the distribution chain.

The best part would be that they could still offer bonuses (like a downloadable soundtrack via PSN, kinda like Street Fighter II HD remix). I am sure that some people would get angry about their choice, but I know that everyone here that truly wants the growlanser series would purchase it.

[mxpowar]

I am sure that some people would get angry about their choice, but I know that everyone here that truly wants the growlanser series would purchase it.

Only because in that case, we would have no other choice. For example, I'm going to try and import Record of Agarest War from Europe rather than download it from PSN. If they went the download-only route, I would be glad to finally be able to play it but also resentful towards Atlus that they did it this way, especially if they charge anything over $20. Games are ridiculously expensive if you can't offset the cost by selling them later or trading them in.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Games are just too expensive to release that way-- at least newer titles. It's good when its an alternative to something suckier, like shelling out $60 for BL FFVII, when you can just download it on PSN for $10, especially when you're not one of those "OMFGTHECOMPILATIONROXXORS" people, and just want to enjoy a game for what it was. Although, I don't feel the compilation ruined it, but I wish theyd use the money to possibly do the same for other titles. FFIV has a sequel... (and so did X, but does that really count? It was more of a fun run through a field than a game) I wanna see more done w/the PSX FF games, or FFVI.

...sorry I got off topic. XD

Growlanser!! WANT!!! x.X

[Gunloc]

While a digital release would be better than nothing, I'd much prefer a retail release. I like having the box, manual and such along with my game. Plus then the game would be eligible for an "Atlus Spoils" version.

[cj iwakura]

I think we'd better pull up a chair and chill with the SRT Original Generation thread. We'll be here a while.

[OverGAR]

I will waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttt.... ..for this gaaaameee...................:yawn:

[growlanservoter]

Cj is right SRT and Growlanser threads should have a fiesta and drink and smoke whatever they want lol.

[ErnestLyell]

Sighs,still no news yet :yawn:

[Tatsuya Suou]

I think we'd better pull up a chair and chill with the SRT Original Generation thread. We'll be here a while.

Cj is right SRT and Growlanser threads should have a fiesta and drink and smoke whatever they want lol.

I agree with you two, smoke em if you got em! Even though I don' smoke.

But as it stands my money is that this will come first due to it being on the psp. Those waiting for SRT OG will have to see if the game will be rerelease on next gen consoles.

[Dragonkingtatsu]

No confirmation yet? My import sense is starting to tingle.:devil:

[Crimson Cloud]

I'll join in guys, even if it's lost cause. I love Growlanser and I'm definitely supporting this thread. :agree:

[Dragonkingtatsu]

After hearing about P3P I've become quite negative about the chances of this being released here :(

[Macstorm]

Logic filter broken, does not compute.

[System_Error]

Yea I hope Atlus skips P3P & does this. Because seriously P3P is not needed.

[Kesseki]

Or they could both come out and everyone can be happy. I don't see how P3P affects this at all.

[Kain Mare]

I hope for both, actually. That way I can play Growlancer when I want stylish art characters and epic storyline and P3P when I want to battle demons during the night. I'm looking for both the imports around their respective release dates.

I support this thread.

Edit: Reminds me of Xenogears second disk and Final Fantasy 8. For those that don't know, Square scrapped Xenogears to work on FF8, thus why the second disk to Xenogears is so rushed and how FF8 still sucked (I liked the story, mind you.) At least, this is what my bf tells me when ever we get into game quality arguments.

[cj iwakura]

Persona 3: immensely successful

Growlanser: only a handful of people care, if that


It's no contest, really.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I hope for both, actually. That way I can play Growlancer when I want stylish art characters and epic storyline and P3P when I want to battle demons during the night. I'm looking for both the imports around their respective release dates.

I support this thread.

Edit: Reminds me of Xenogears second disk and Final Fantasy 8. For those that don't know, Square scrapped Xenogears to work on FF8, thus why the second disk to Xenogears is so rushed and how FF8 still sucked (I liked the story, mind you.) At least, this is what my bf tells me when ever we get into game quality arguments.

Wow... I love FFVIII to death; I'm a little more annoyed now that they did that. >> SE could've made the second disc to VIII flow a little better if they were rushing 'gears.

Nonetheless, I'm concerned by P3P as well... its more popular, more people want it... no doubt it will get released over Growlanser.. when was this PSP remake for Growlanser announced anyway? I wasn't here when the topic started and I'd like to think someone would've at least said "its coming" or "were considering it" or "its hopeless" by now...

[Kesseki]

If Atlus really wanted to bring this over, I don't think any other game releases would affect that. It's not like they can only localize one game at a time.

Can't remember when Growlanser PSP was announced but it only came out in May of this year so there's still some time yet before I'd file it under hopeless. And comments telling us outright whether a game is coming or hopeless seem to be very, very rare, if nonexistent.

[Olethros]

If Atlus really wanted to bring this over, I don't think any other game releases would affect that. It's not like they can only localize one game at a time.

Can't remember when Growlanser PSP was announced but it only came out in May of this year so there's still some time yet before I'd file it under hopeless. And comments telling us outright whether a game is coming or hopeless seem to be very, very rare, if nonexistent.

This is correct, except in the rare instances where the game getting suggested is such an outright joke that they can't resist joking about it. (see the cat game suggestion thread for evidence of this).

[jj984jj]

If Atlus really wanted to bring this over, I don't think any other game releases would affect that. It's not like they can only localize one game at a time.

Can't remember when Growlanser PSP was announced but it only came out in May of this year so there's still some time yet before I'd file it under hopeless. And comments telling us outright whether a game is coming or hopeless seem to be very, very rare, if nonexistent.

There's still only so many games they can bring over so obviously other game releases do affect how many titles they can localize at some point. Any RPG using the Persona brand on an active system is guaranteed to be localized, Growlanser not so much. I think this is still a bit more on the safe side though, like I said on the first page this would be easier to get people to than VI, and it's a first party game.

[Crimson Cloud]

Persona 3: immensely successful

Growlanser: only a handful of people care, if that


It's no contest, really.

There are lot of SRT: OG/OG Gaiden fans out there as well but Atlus doesn't care about it. They listen to fans sometimes but sometimes they are just... :yawn:

[marche1990]

lol. Why skipping P3P? It's a great game and I think that a lot of people would buy it (myself included, since I don't own any version T.T)
and about growlanser.... not so sure, I didn't even knew that it existed XD, and by now I only know what it's written in the wikipedia

[ErnestLyell]

They decide to add more heroines to P3P just like they did to Growlanser :)
But the expansion in GL PSP is not really that good actually :very_sad:

So,anyone has high hope for P3P should not be disappointed when it's realeased :devil:

They should concentrate on making a new game rather than just expand an already expanded game :o

[OverGAR]

You have a point, expandid an expandid game, they could do another exclusive Persona with a female heroine however they only doing the same game with som changes. Still psp don't get exclusive games....and they bring Kenka Banchou or Class of Heroes...I'd lol

Anyway, I finish Growlanser psp in japanese.......freaking awesome!! this game is badass. You can have Richart in the new path =0 I unlocked Melfy Ending, now I'll unlock Amelia one <3

I didn't understand the story in the new path, What happened with Justin and what did he do to Melfy? Still I like Melfy but she never join you. I find Amelia more love point LOL because at least she join you and save you.

[Kunio-kun]

I registered for this forum just to lobby for Growlanser PSP...
Discussion going on at Siliconera got me thinking about it- http://www.siliconera.com/2009/09/22/rumored-japanese-psn-import-section-seems-likely/

It sucks that Atlus or another publisher has yet to localize the first Growlanser. I know it's not the most popular series, but I imagine it would sell better than 33-50% of their other releases... I mean, could it seriously not outperform the latest Bumpy Trot game??? Oh well, at least I'll have 101 In 1 Megamix instead... YAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

And I imagine I'll be the first (and last) person to say it: F*CK P3P... I could care less about ANOTHER annual tweak to a game that has been brought here twice before... That's on par with NIS announcing Disgaea 1 for the 360 with an extra Horse Weiner subquest. It's :bs: .

Thankfully newer publishers like Aksys, Ignition, Rising Star and Xseed are gaining momentum... I can only hope that the next time a game like Growlanser, Langrisser, or Terranigma is developed that it gets the worldwide release it deserves. And I certainly hope that when a solid game gets overlooked the first time around the same mistake is not repeated twice...

[growlanservoter]

No I agree with you on the P3P release sense we already got the ps2 releases. Games like Growloanser and Super Robot Taisen/Wars get swept under the rug and I have to say besides the first vandal hearts game Growlanser and SRT are the best Strat RPGs out there :) Both are addicting and very niche, and only available via Import ecept for the very few releases we have ahd here in the US so far 3 different games from both series have been released. G2,3,5 SRT OG1,2, OG endless Frontier. Endless Frontier got me addicted and then I bought OG1 and 2. But back on topic I cant seem to get the featharian girls ending ><

[Pibbman]

I've seen a lot of people here saying they don't really care for P3P, because we already had two versions of it. I wonder if Atlus USA is still gonna do it?

I mean, this kind of thing may work with the Japanese market, but the North American market isn't the type to buy the same thing over and over. Ok so PS3: FES worked, but I don't see it happening again a third time.

Personally I'd still like to see this. I'm a fan of the artist.

[Spinja446]

Well it's time for me to stop lurking this forum, I am a huge fan of the Growlanser Series, so I support this thread. Please Atlus localize this! :)

[Green Card]

I've seen a lot of people here saying they don't really care for P3P, because we already had two versions of it. I wonder if Atlus USA is still gonna do it?

I mean, this kind of thing may work with the Japanese market, but the North American market isn't the type to buy the same thing over and over. Ok so PS3: FES worked, but I don't see it happening again a third time.

Personally I'd still like to see this. I'm a fan of the artist.

Persona is pretty popular so I wouldn't be surprised if they brought it over since its on the PSP. I for one won't be buying it a 3rd time but I know a couple that will - they just picked up FES though so it wouldn't be their 3rd copy. I would much rather see Growlanser here but like the others I don't see it coming here over P3P. We can only hope they both come here.

[cj iwakura]

Maybe we should start bothering Atlus JP to fix whatever's keeping it from being localized.

Slackers. :P

[Kunio-kun]

Maybe we should start bothering Atlus JP to fix whatever's keeping it from being localized.

Slackers. :P

Yeah, I'd be interested to know if another publisher inquired about the rights to localize it (a la Working Designs with 2 and 3.) Was Atlus' asking price too high because it's an 'established' IP??? Sucks that NO ONE has been able to put it out in English...
I am glad to know that I'm not the only one who is still holding out hope that we'll see G1 released over here, or that P3P is shameless overkill...

[Soushi_Grapple]

If we get P3P, I'd at least hope some of the profit could go to localize a less popular game ala Growlanser...

[Tsuko]

i too would like to see this over here, i enjoyed 2 and 3 alot, 5 was soso
i would have liked to play 4 and 6 as well

[ErnestLyell]

Maybe Atlus is just afraid they would step on the same track just as WDs used to do :devil:

Yeah,and P3P should just get a critical overkill :seesaw:

[Clephas]

I would sacrifice a goat to Atlus if they brought his over. Would you like it bled or burnt?

But seriously, I badly want to see this game come over, if only because it is one of the two games in the series that I haven't played yet badly want to in English. Growlanser I, the first in the series and arguably the best... I want to play it so bad that I can taste copper whenever I think about it.

[zippedpinhead]

The problem with this game series is that the working designs translated titles suffered from the usual WD problems. Primarily Victor Ireland, and constant infighting with Sony and then a limited print run which was not limited (the special packaging which I consistantly found years after release) and the standard packaging which I only found once (when I received it as a gift).

Atlus's decision to localize Heritage of War made sense on paper. Stand alone title, with a potential sequel if sales are good, VS IV which had what could be considered at the time as dated graphics and easy sell sequel potential.

Sadly, Heritage of War did not sell well. In my area, each gamestop has at least one copy of HoW still on the shelf. Hopelessly marked down ($29.99 last I checked, might be $19.99 now though).

Growlanser 1 has suffered from being passed over on the original Playstation. If it had been released it may have sold well. Other similar titles were succeeding in America at the time, and it would have probably been well received. Skipping that initial entry and jumping in to the two sequels hurts continuity, lets existing fans know that they missed something, and will always leave us wanting.

I have resigned myself to the knowledge that I will never play what has largely been considered the best entry of the Growlanser series. This places G1 in the same category as Tales of Destiny (PS2 remake), Tales of Destiny 2, Soul Hackers, the first four games of the Sakura Taisen series, Namco X Capcom, Ys IV, Ys V, and Fatal Frame 4.

Of course, I am still holding out hope for Ys VII, but that is really another rant for a different thread.

[Kishou]

I never played Growlanser game tbh (I know, must suck not knowing how good this is), which is why I'm also hoping this gets localized. I mean, yeah, it's a game that probably doesn't sell well and people would rather play games that have titles that are most familiar with them (Final Fantasy with their new remakes, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story,, Kingdom Hearts 365/2 days, even P3P) that most would over look any other game, thus, no good sells. I mean, in a way, P3P is a good marketing strategy, but they're starting to turn into Square-Enix if they're trying to add multiple spinoffs of an already ok game which will soon make it overrated (like Final Fantasy VII, and on a much lighter case, X).

If Atlus wants to localize P3P, let them. Despite our protests, old and new fans alike will probably be into the new gender-role. But I would wish that they'd consider sending this over too, because there's always some dedicated fans of a lesser series that would buy this. It would make me a happy camper to play this and enjoy the series of what merits it has in the remake of the first (given if it's good that is; some folks didn't like all the changes for Persona 1 PSP after all).

[Haruhi_claw]

I would think Atlus USA takes games from their parent company quite seriously when considering what to localize. They put tons of TLC into Heritage of War with that nice premium package, yet still didn't sell all that well. I'm among those who bought it new and still own.

We've heard little of the Atlus 2010 lineup beyond Trauma Team. So G1 still has a chance. Especially with the digital release possibility like Persona 1 PSP. Not being held back by limited print runs should help this kind of game.

[Hraesvelgr]

Growlanser V had a limited print run even for an Atlus game, so it's not that surprising about its sales.

[Clephas]

HOW's failure was because the game was poorly made and a departure from what made the series fun in general.

[ErnestLyell]

Growlanser V's fast-paced battle system is a new fresh change to the Growlanser franchise,but many people is unable to cope with that change ;)

I myself dislike it at first but gradually learn to love and accept it ;)

Besides,Growlanser HoW is actually just half of an item. The later half of the game is in the sequel ,Growlanser VI.

Too bad,if Atlus is able to fit 2 games into one with 2 DVDs.The sale may actually increase :seesaw:

[cj iwakura]

HOW's failure was because the game was poorly made and a departure from what made the series fun in general.

This.

It wasn't a bad game by any means, and it had a good localization, but it can't compare to 2 & 3. Or 1. (HINT)

Still, every Growlanser fan should own it. The artbook is beautiful.

[mxpowar]

HOW's failure was because the game was poorly made and a departure from what made the series fun in general.

This.

It wasn't a bad game by any means, and it had a good localization, but it can't compare to 2 & 3. Or 1. (HINT)

Still, every Growlanser fan should own it. The artbook is beautiful.

Yeah, I kept the artbook and sold the game. :wink:

[Soushi_Grapple]

I just need to finish III so I can get around to playing V.. even if they aren't really connected.

[growlanservoter]

I saw that what does idea factory have to do with growlanser?

[Clephas]

Idea factory? Nothing.

[mxpowar]

I saw that what does idea factory have to do with growlanser?
That was just cj iwakura's signature. Completely unrelated to this thread.

[cj iwakura]

Yeah, I despise Idea Factory with a fiery passion. They should be kept far away from anything beginning with R and ending in G.

[Onion of Mystery]

Rowlanserg? Resnalworg?

[jeffx]

Rowlanserg? Resnalworg?

I LOL'd

[mxpowar]

Yeah, I despise Idea Factory with a fiery passion. They should be kept far away from anything beginning with R and ending in G.
Well, sure, their games are kind of poor, but I will always be grateful to them and O3 for developing and publishing, Chaos Wars, respectively. I was glad to suffer through that game just to see characters from Shadow Hearts and Gungrave again. C'mon Nautilus and RED, gimme some sequels.

Uh, back on topic, please localize Growlanser PSP, Atlus. I pre-order most of your games and this would be no different. It would be very sad if Heritage of War was the last Growlanser game I got to play. *shudders at thought of playing HoW*

[Wildarms]

Theres a good game from idea factory coming soon for psn, its called agarest war and it looks great, i hate when people judge games just by the brand, atlus started barely known as well, u know?, i started to know it since thousand arms or tactics ogre, i would be in serious problem if i was only buying squ*resoft or Squ*re En*x games just because they made final fantasy lol.

Anyway i've only brought and played the fith one i think (heritages of war) and loved it, ive always been looking to play another one of this tittle and portable better!

[BiffSlamkovich]

I just noticed that Growlanser PSP existed and mistook it as being Langrassir PSP (I got the two names mixed up). And I almost lost my mother loving mind. Because if Atlus did a PSP remake of Langrassir, then there's a chance it could be localized for NA. And if it sold well enough in Japan, there's a chance they could bring Langrassir II to the PSP. And if the first one sold well enough in NA, there's a chance they could localize Langrassir II for NA... And so on and so forth. This would be a highly unlikely scenario, but important and exciting none the less, because only the first Langrassir game was ever localized for NA.

However, they did NOT make Langrassir for the PSP, but instead Growlanser. This is good though, because Growlanser is also all kinds of wonderful. So, to summarize: "What's a langrassir? Give me my Growlanser PSP!". Thank you for reading my dumb story. Good day!

[landlock]

C'mon Nautilus

Nautilus were shut down by Amaze Ent.

It doesnt look good for Growlanser does it.

[mxpowar]

C'mon Nautilus

Nautilus were shut down by Amaze Ent.

It doesnt look good for Growlanser does it.
Well, then substitute Nautilus for either feelplus or Amaze, whoever owns the rights to Shadow Hearts.

I still haven't given up on Growlanser since Atlus has barely announced any upcoming games. As far as I know, there is only Kenka Bancho and Zeno Clash, so Atlus will probably be announcing more games soon.

Just curious, how possessive are Atlus Japan with their IPs? I mean if by some chance Atlus USA doesn't pick this up, is it possible that Xseed or NISA or some similar company can pick this game up?

[jj984jj]

Well, then substitute Nautilus for either feelplus or Amaze, whoever owns the rights to Shadow Hearts.

Amaze has the IP, they've been making pachinko slot games with it, feelplus is where the talent behind the games went.

[cj iwakura]

C'mon Nautilus

Nautilus were shut down by Amaze Ent.

It doesnt look good for Growlanser does it.
Well, then substitute Nautilus for either feelplus or Amaze, whoever owns the rights to Shadow Hearts.

I still haven't given up on Growlanser since Atlus has barely announced any upcoming games. As far as I know, there is only Kenka Bancho and Zeno Clash, so Atlus will probably be announcing more games soon.

Just curious, how possessive are Atlus Japan with their IPs? I mean if by some chance Atlus USA doesn't pick this up, is it possible that Xseed or NISA or some similar company can pick this game up?

If they're willing to make the effort and Atlus USA isn't able to, I can't see why not.