Gust titles

[ChipSet]

So when Atlus is going to take over the localization contracts for gust games? I mean did you see the crappy job NISA did over Ar Tonelico 2? Grammar Error, half of the voice track are cut off, some random freeze , a major freeze during on the last boss, a bug that prevent you to kill the ultimate boss of the game . I mean , Atlus did such a good job with SMT,Odin Sphere, Eternal Poison and Persona 3-4.....they should just take over crappy company like NISA....Anyone agree? ;)

[slayn]

GUST

Is it really that hard?

[SickleCellAnemia]

When I saw Guts, I thought this was going to be a game about Global Guts on Nickelodeon, or guts like human organs spewing all over the place. YOU LIED TO ME CHIPSET!

[slayn]

I thought it was talking about a Berserk game :(.

[ChipSet]

GUST

Is it really that hard?

Hahaha , apparently it is... thx to my keyboard dyslexia. Anyway, sorry about that. I fixed some of the typo, but can't fix the subject title ...so can you please give me a break about this ...thx ;)

[slayn]

It's cool, man, I just got all excited about a game starring Guts and my dreams were crushed in one fell swoop.

[Hamel]

It's cool, man, I just got all excited about a game starring Guts and my dreams were crushed in one fell swoop.

There are two games about Berserk (one for the DC and one for the PS2)
Never got translated but the PS2 game looks awesome (I heard it takes off right where the anime ended)

[Atlus!!!]

So when Atlus is going to take over the localization contracts for gust games? I mean did you see the crappy job NISA did over Ar Tonelico 2? Grammar Error, half of the voice track are cut off, some random freeze , a major freeze during on the last boss, a bug that prevent you to kill the ultimate boss of the game . I mean , Atlus did such a good job with SMT,Odin Sphere, Eternal Poison and Persona 3-4.....they should just take over crappy company like NISA....Anyone agree? ;)

Just heard about that. I paid $60 and this is the best they can do? Luckily I didn't open my copy yet so maybe I can return it if they do a reprint.

Rhapsody DS is another game they apparently ****ed up with the game having glitches, grammitcal errors and extra content removed. Looks like Cross Edge is next on the list to be butchered.

[LoligodKamina]

yea Nisa really screw up the localiztion on this game. though the missing voices are understandable since they add teh japanese track to the game.

[raum215]

I know someone who beat the game on normal and never glitched.

His luck was that his revatails went down early in the last fight, so there was no need for Raki to cast Frequency Disruptor (which is what causes the fatal error).

We should all be so lucky as to have our revatails go down early... ;)

[ChipSet]

Just heard about that. I paid $60 and this is the best they can do? Luckily I didn't open my copy yet so maybe I can return it if they do a reprint.

Rhapsody DS is another game they apparently ****ed up with the game having glitches, grammitcal errors and extra content removed. Looks like Cross Edge is next on the list to be butchered.


I don’t think they will do a reprint, or at least I didn’t hear anything about that. I have sent a mail to NISA and ask them if they intend to do something about the freezing issue, so far I receive no reply (before anyone ask, it wasn’t a hate mail ;)) .
Anyway, you should give the game a try, Sure those issue are frustrating, especially because ART2 could have been much better without them, but it’s still good RPG. Worth more then one play through in my case and it’s not that hard to work around the glitch on Raki’s fight, especially if you have god in your team…err I mean Jakuri.


though the missing voices are understandable since they add teh japanese track to the game.

Unlike in ART1, I believe NISA also cut half of the Japanese track in ART2, but I can be wrong on that.

[freakcan]

Haven't played Ar Tonelico 2 yet, so I can't comment on that. But they have done a decent job on previous Gust titles. I'm happy with NISA, plus have extras with their games (dual audio, soundtracks, artbooks).

[Olethros]

This thread amuses me. Please continue.

[ChipSet]

This thread amuses me. Please continue.


Heum....did I miss something?

[Olethros]

^ Nope. It's as simple as the statement seems to be. No hidden meaning, no inside joke, no subtle context. It simply amuses me. I felt the need to share that. That is all.

[Onyx_a87]

While I play my PS2 alot, man this is really annoying. Granted I know for a small company like Gust it would have probably been more cost effective for them to develop this on a PS2 I just kind of wish they didn't because this stamps out any hope for a patch. Of course this isn't their fault its NIS's, hell I even wonder how this missed the Q&A department as its a game breaking bug that makes it impossible to complete the side segments. Right now it doesn't look like NISamerica is going to do anything about it, really rather unacceptable. Granted shouldn't be venting about a rival company on this board but of all the recent translations Atlus has done (and they seem to be ramping that up quite a bit all of a sudden) it would have been nice if they had done Ar Tonelico 2 as it is one of the best PS2 titles I have ever played.

[Zomadar]

Beat the game. No problems.
The severity of the issues is grossly exagerated.

[slayn]

Beat the game. No problems.
The severity of the issues is grossly exagerated.

Assuming you're talking about Ar Tonelico 2, the issue isn't really beating the game, it's beating a bunch of optional boss battles.

[kelvinc]

ChipSet: how did you get AT2? From what I can tell, there's actually no normal way to get this game in Canada. Although I didn't check Amazon.ca at launch time, it's out of stock right now. AFAIK no EB in Greater Van stocks it, and obviously the big box stores don't have it. I'm not desperately seeking it, but it's still on the list of things I want to try out in the near future. It's not like Atlus products like Eternal Poison or P4, where it's pretty much certain to be stocked at any local EB.

Maybe that says a lot about NISA's operations, which are way smaller than Atlus USA. With the economy in the tank and the numerous delays and bugs in the newest releases, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Nippon Ichi decides to try something different in dealing with the NA market.

[freakcan]

I picked up my copy at my local EB. Even though I preordered, I believed there were non preorder copies.

[kelvinc]

On second thought, there's a perfectly good explanation:
The thing is that because I don't want it now, I never bothered asking. It's just that I noticed that I never saw in when browsing in-store.
If only with-artbooks deluxe versions are available, then they may have locked them up.
So maybe they do have them. :tongue:

[CanuckGamer]

I own ATII and while I'm very happy with the game. This whole deal about the bugs saddens me.
Funny thing, it is not over the bugs but the people that bought the game and are treating NISA like cr@p over them. Even saying that you like this game starts a flame war over on the NISA forums. Half the people are saying NISA should just stop bringing games over.
Truly a sad for a small company that has done a great job of giving its fans what they want.

[Flußkönig]

^Yeah, NISA is obviously the victim here. Poor guys, people are just expecting to much from a small company like NISA. :very_sad:

Truly a sad for a small company that has done a great job of giving its fans what they want. Yes, I know I wanted a glitchy game with a crappy localization. Thank you NISA!

[CanuckGamer]

Thank you for proving my point.... *sigh*
I don't know what went wrong with this game but I'm not going to hang them for it.
They have released so many other great games and there are more on the way that I'll forgive them.

[Kakizaki]

They have released so many other great games and there are more on the way

That is debatable.

[CanuckGamer]

If you don't even like their games why bother complaining about them?

[Vincent Alexander]

If you don't even like their games why bother complaining about them?
If you like their games, why bother praising? Wait...that makes no sense.

[Kakizaki]

If you don't even like their games why bother complaining about them?

^Point out in this thread where I have?

That being said, there still is nothing wrong with expressing an opinion on buggy / faulty software. I don't need to be interested in the game to find what has happened with the final release pathetic.

[Flußkönig]

Thank you for proving my point.... *sigh*
I don't know what went wrong with this game but I'm not going to hang them for it.
They have released so many other great games and there are more on the way that I'll forgive them.

I haven't really enjoyed any of NISA's releases outside of a few of the Gust games (which have almost all had crazy glitches and poor localizations) and Grim Grimoire, so I don't really have much reason to forgive NISA at this point.

You seem to think that people should be thankful to NISA for the chance to pay for a game that fails to meet even a minimum standard of competent localization and quality control. Maybe that isn't what you are claiming, but that is the impression I get when I read your posts.

[kelvinc]

Nobody's saying that NISA should deprive non-Japanese audiences of Gust titles. But there's been a string of unfortunate problems with recent releases, like AT2 and Rhapsody, that all can be pointed to NISA, and it's really a disservice to gamers and Gust alike. Maybe NISA needs to get bigger, to something like Atlus USA, to be able to handle the localization work without it being sloppy or delayed endlessly. Or maybe Gust should look to someone else to localize. I don't know 'cuz I'm not an industry expert, but I'm willing to ponder these options.

To put it another way: Squenix is doing the distribution for P4 in Europe. If the alternative is a crappy distribution done by a hypothetical understaffed Atlus Europe, I'd much rather have Squenix do it (despite the love/hate relationship I'm sure many of us have with SE).

[Zomadar]

^Yeah, NISA is obviously the victim here. Poor guys, people are just expecting to much from a small company like NISA. :very_sad:

Truly a sad for a small company that has done a great job of giving its fans what they want. Yes, I know I wanted a glitchy game with a crappy localization. Thank you NISA!

I have all the gust games and have never run into a glitch. They all seem to be the things that 95% of the people will never encounter.

Oh, and the bad locailzations, I saw the complaints over on the NISA forum.
How dare they use made up words like aqua! It’s clearly not a word in any language!(Sarcasm)

Seriously check that place out. It’s hilarious the level of whiney and stupid that permeates the place.

[kelvinc]

Just realized that everything discussed here has already been pretty much covered (http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2838) in Off-Topic Talk.

[slayn]

I have all the gust games and have never run into a glitch. They all seem to be the things that 95% of the people will never encounter.

Have you actually played the games? I mean, it's one thing to own them all, it's another to have actually played them.

[Zomadar]

I have all the gust games and have never run into a glitch. They all seem to be the things that 95% of the people will never encounter.

Have you actually played the games? I mean, it's one thing to own them all, it's another to have actually played them.
Yep, beat them all.

[Daroki]

^Yeah, NISA is obviously the victim here. Poor guys, people are just expecting to much from a small company like NISA. :very_sad:

Truly a sad for a small company that has done a great job of giving its fans what they want. Yes, I know I wanted a glitchy game with a crappy localization. Thank you NISA!

I have all the gust games and have never run into a glitch. They all seem to be the things that 95% of the people will never encounter.

Oh, and the bad locailzations, I saw the complaints over on the NISA forum.
How dare they use made up words like aqua! It’s clearly not a word in any language!(Sarcasm)

Seriously check that place out. It’s hilarious the level of whiney and stupid that permeates the place.

Funny that the same people who are complaining about NISA are probably the same people who don't forgive Atlus USA for the Persona Revelations translation from over 12 years ago.

I think that NISA's going through growing pains like another company we know went through, and as long as good people are at the helm to see them through this period (where they've had two pretty high profile mistakes slip through, Rhapsody's extra content and AT2's glitch on the final boss) history tells us they'll be forgiven some time in 2033.

But only after they re-release ports on the PSP4 and DSiGPS2...

[slayn]

Funny that the same people who are complaining about NISA are probably the same people who don't forgive Atlus USA for the Persona Revelations translation from over 12 years ago.

Crappy translation != game-crashing bug. The two are not even remotely comparable.

Also

NISA's legacy of crap != Atlus caving to the requirements of the times. The two are not even remotely comparable.