Persona Remake for PSP info

[superbeast1370]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172299

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release?

[Manic Expressive]

I sure hope so to make up for that disaster..

Wait remake? I sense a Persona 3/4 makeover.

[superbeast1370]

I sure hope so to make up for that disaster..

Wait remake? I sense a Persona 3/4 makeover.

I've never played the first 2. but I heard bad things about the localization of the first Persona.

I'll definetly buy it if it gets a release.

[Andrew_Fireborn]

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release? I don't see why they wouldn't.

I mean, we got P3 -and- FES. Looking at other companies records, it's rare that special editions ever make it off the island.

[DarKaoZ]

I read it was just a port from the PS1 game but with new scenarios and better localization. But I really hope it's a P3/P4 style remake, since I love P3/P4 style more than P2.

[Pibbman]

Wait wut?!

Theres a Persona remake for PSP? No wai

DUDE THIS IS MAJOR! FIRST DAY BUY HERE! Already got my PSP.

[Sei]

Day one if its a new translation/localization. Day never if they reuse the American psx one!

[Pibbman]

I sure hope so to make up for that disaster..

Wait remake? I sense a Persona 3/4 makeover.

Honestly I hope it uses the P3/P4 combat system.

[Manic Expressive]

I'd honestly just rather have something more like P2..

[Pibbman]

Well it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Since Persona Revelations is before both P2/P3 and P4. They might just add some more story and update the graphics and leave the rest of the mechanics alone.

If they are smart, they might look into reading past reviews on the game for potential issues that arose in them. That way they can see if they can fix the issues while still retaining how the game was meant to be played.

[Manic Expressive]

I seriously want to ask the guy in charge of game mechanics why did they take Fusion Techniques out? Who exactly said "hey let's get rid of something so awesome and useful"?.

There is nothing more awesome than 3-5 Persona rising at the same time to perform an epic spell.

[cj iwakura]

Persona 1 with Persona 2 style movement would take about 90% of the frustration out of it.

[Sei]

^ I think it's probably cause your teammates can't change personas, so you could just spam fusions every fight. Even in P2 where there is unlimited mana, there was a random element in the turn order that would prevent you from doing that, and a lot more variety in spells/abilities so the mix abilities were harder to find. I didn't think Fusion spells worked that great in DDS either.

[Kakizaki]

I read it was just a port from the PS1 game but with new scenarios and better localization. But I really hope it's a P3/P4 style remake, since I love P3/P4 style more than P2.

No. As a long time fan, I will be incredibly upset if this happens -- I can't tell you how frustrated I would be. I want the original with a new translation. However, even if this is the case, I am highly skeptical it would see the light of day here given the current state of the PSP and how difficult it would appear for ports to be released on it in the U.S.

Also, what would a better localization have to do with the Japanese version?

The amount of spells is incredible in MIP. I don't want to see it reduced down to P3/P4 levels. I also like the look of the characters. I can't imagine how I would feel if they were redesigned to mimmick P3/P4. I will say the same for the battle system.

The sprites from P1 and spell effects, are imo, much better looking than the P2 titles. DS on PSP looks very nice with just a few minor touch ups. It really held up well. I imagine MIP might also look quite nice on PSP with mimimal tweeks.

Some of us that prefer the older style game play deserve to have a bone thrown our way.

Persona 1 with Persona 2 style movement would take about 90% of the frustration out of it.Not sure what you mean by this, but I prefer the formations for the first Persona. However, I did like the Persona pool / switching in P2 and fusions, but I agree with Sei that fusions can too easily be spammed. I actually prefer the contact system from 1.

edit - Anyone catch who that little 1UP article was by? ;)

[Pibbman]

I read it was just a port from the PS1 game but with new scenarios and better localization. But I really hope it's a P3/P4 style remake, since I love P3/P4 style more than P2.

No. As a long time fan, I will be incredibly upset if this happens -- I can't tell you how frustrated I would be. I want the original with a new translation. However, even if this is the case, I am highly skeptical it would see the light of day here given the current state of the PSP and how difficult it would appear for ports to be released on it in the U.S.

Also, what would a better localization have to do with the Japanese version?

The amount of spells is incredible in MIP. I don't want to see it reduced down to P3/P4 levels. I also like the look of the characters. I can't imagine how I would feel if they were redesigned to mimmick P3/P4. I will say the same for the battle system.

The sprites from P1 and spell effects, are imo, much better looking than the P2 titles. DS on PSP looks very nice with just a few minor touch ups. It really held up well. I imagine MIP might also look quite nice on PSP with mimimal tweeks.

Some of us that prefer the older style game play deserve to have a bone thrown our way.

Persona 1 with Persona 2 style movement would take about 90% of the frustration out of it.Not sure what you mean by this, but I prefer the formations for the first Persona. However, I did like the Persona pool / switching in P2 and fusions, but I agree with Sei that fusions can too easily be spammed. I actually prefer the contact system from 1.

edit - Anyone catch who that little 1UP article was by? ;)

Some guy named Nick?

I get the feeling since the report is saying that there is all new characters, meaning they probably went with the recent P3/P4 art style, and new scenarios, it would have me believe you might end up being more disappointed than excited.

I never played the original, so I can't share your feelings on the matter. I believe I was like 10 years old at the time that came out, and didn't have a PSX then. Personally I'm just glad at least I can get some experience of the original, since i haven't found the original anywhere, and having to part with the money they want for it these economic times is too much.

[Kakizaki]

^If it is altered to play like P3/P4, than you aren't playing the original. I don't know if I could advise someone to pay what the original Persona is going for these days. I personally love it, but it did have a pretty cruddy translation.

I'm not sure why new characters would automatically imply it is going to have a drastic art overhaul. KK is still around. They may just be giving old "bit" characters more weight in the story or try to tie it more to IS/EP. Same could be said with new scenarios. I'm wondering if there will just be more possible endings or special quests depending on who joined your party as optional characters -- the way the original game was structured could make that very possible.

Nick used to write for Game Fan. He was a pretty well known writer for certain audiences.

[Juanblue85]

OMG Persona remake for PSP. I can't wait since its expensive to get the first one for PS1. NOw if only P2 gets remade that would be lovely.

Kazikaki I know you don't like change but there may be some people that still prefer the Persona 3/4 battle style. I will like whichever as long as I can play th game.

[Manic Expressive]

OMG Persona remake for PSP. I can't wait since its expensive to get the first one for PS1. NOw if only P2 gets remade that would be lovely.

Kazikaki I know you don't like change but there may be some people that still prefer the Persona 3/4 battle style. I will like whichever as long as I can play th game.

Well those people really need to step aside if they didn't care for the game in the first place.

[Pibbman]

^If it is altered to play like P3/P4, than you aren't playing the original. I don't know if I could advise someone to pay what the original Persona is going for these days. I personally love it, but it did have a pretty cruddy translation.

I'm not sure why new characters would automatically imply it is going to have a drastic art overhaul. KK is still around. They may just be giving old "bit" characters more weight in the story or try to tie it more to IS/EP. Same could be said with new scenarios. I'm wondering if there will just be more possible endings or special quests depending on who joined your party as optional characters -- the way the original game was structured could make that very possible.

Nick used to write for Game Fan. He was a pretty well known writer for certain audiences.

Well, regardless of which direction they go, I'm sure I'll enjoy it. That would be interesting to see how a gameplay mechanic is so heavily involved with the story, that changing it would do such a thing.

Just watching a few youtube videos of the gameplay, which aspect are you talking about if changed that wouldn't be like the original? The only thing I really notice so far in difference is that it has formation, and appears to play like the other Persona games, except with no extra turns for exploiting weaknesses and the sort.

EDIT: Wait...I think I might of saw the drain effect? not sure. The more I look at it, it doesn't seem that much different from the gameplay style of P3/P4. It still has ailments, and drain (I think) and that sort of thing.

[Juanblue85]

Good news its a port not a remake so all is well in Kakizaki's world.

[Manic Expressive]

Press turn was something introduced in Nocturne so they adapted it into practically every other game released afterward.

Even so I think enemies still have weaknesses, in P2 they did at least. You took advantage of them with Fusion Techniques which IMO some were broken lol.

[Kakizaki]

Kazikaki I know you don't like change but there may be some people that still prefer the Persona 3/4 battle style. I will like whichever as long as I can play th game.You know that really isn't a fair statement to make -- especially when a game that I dearly love is involved. New games are one thing, but to "change" a game that is pretty damn good aside from a very poor localization is annoying. There may be a lot of people that also prefer the old style and would like a chance to play that again. Please don;t make statements like that. If it is overhauled to a P3/P4 system, a significant amount of game play will be lost - demon negotiations and I would wonder about the bestiary since it is huge in P1.

I would like a chance to play the original content, such as the SQQ, that I missed out on the first time.

Well, regardless of which direction they go, I'm sure I'll enjoy it. That would be interesting to see how a gameplay mechanic is so heavily involved with the story, that changing it would do such a thing.

Just watching a few youtube videos of the gameplay, which aspect are you talking about if changed that wouldn't be like the original? The only thing I really notice so far in difference is that it has formation, and appears to play like the other Persona games, except with no extra turns for exploiting weaknesses and the sort.I'm not sure where you are getting any of this based off of what I said. You encounter several optional party characters during your quest in MIP. None of them change things dramatically. They could change that in new port / remake.
edit - you must have been referring to an early post. Not the one you quote. The game play is the early Persona titles is drastically different than P3/P4 - demon negotiations, the amount of spells, the amount of demons you fight, difficulty, moon phases, etc...

Good news its a port not a remake so all is well in Kakizaki's world.Link please.

[Juanblue85]

Kazikaki I know you don't like change but there may be some people that still prefer the Persona 3/4 battle style. I will like whichever as long as I can play th game.

You know that really isn't a fair statement to make -- especially when a game that I dearly love is involved. New games are one thing, but to "change" a game that is pretty damn good aside from a very poor localization is annoying. There may be a lot of people that also prefer the old style and would like a chance to play that again. Please don;t make statements like that. If it is overhauled to a P3/P4 system, a significant amount of game play will be lost - demon negotiations and I would wonder about the bestiary since it is huge in P1.

I would like a chance to play the original content, such as the SQQ, that I missed out on the first time.

I see your point. sorry about that.

[Pibbman]

Well guys, lets hope Atlus localizes it. I can't see why they wouldn't? I mean Persona 4 came out mid last year, and they quickly localized it for release like what...6 months later?

I just hope there isn't anything cut this time or whatever, even though I haven't played the original, but I hate anything that censors. I found it odd there was guns involved in it, but then I finally realized that Naoto used a gun in Persona 4. Shows you how slow I can be sometimes lol.

[Kakizaki]

Good news its a port not a remake so all is well in Kakizaki's world.

Link Please x2.

[Pibbman]

Good news its a port not a remake so all is well in Kakizaki's world.

Link Please x2.

I'm curious too now. The 1up article says it's a remake. Do you talk to demons in P1?

[Juanblue85]

neoGAF.com

[Kakizaki]

Since Juan is too lazy to give us a direct link:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349052

Pibb -

Yes, you talk to demons. Each one of your party members has a set of skills to negotiate with them. The phase of the moon also affects the demons mood. You need to negotiate with them to get their tarot card. The cards are used to fuse new Persona. You can also negotiate for money and items. The demons reactions are pretty damn funny sometimes.

[Pibbman]

Even with that, I have my doubts about it being a port. From what I have heard, time hasn't been very kind to the first Persona game. It will most likely be a remake if you ask me.

[Iris]

If they were to remake P1 to P3/4 style I would have to frown and throw things at the wall and make angry statements on internet forums.

Yes, P3/4 were fun, but there's a whole magical world of other ways to play out there, guys. While I found the P3 engine very fitting for a game like P3, it would be horrendously out of place in the earlier games.

What I'm actually most worried about with this port is the possibility of Sony killing it for "lack of new content" or whatever it is they like to get nitpicky on with PSP ports. I mean, we didn't get Devil Summoner.

[Sei]

I bet on a port. As far as I know Atlus doesn't spend money on remakes when they can just make a touched up port. With the effort a remake would take they could just make Persona 5, too.

I'm cool with it either way as long as the horrible localization is fixed.

Then again it might never make it here just like Devil summoner didn't.

[Kakizaki]

@Pibbman

^Mah, people exaggerate imo. Aside from the overworld and the 3-D dungeons, the sprites look as good as P IS/EP. I sometimes think people like to regurgitate what they have heard from "others" without experiencing it firsthand. I kind of feel like the who P1 graphics think is kind of snowballing. People don't seem to have a problem with Suikoden 1 or 2. P1's sprites are easily on par.

Yes the battle system is slower in P1 compared to P3/P4, but there is also a lot more to do.

Like I mentioned before, DS on PSP looked pretty damn nice. It easily looks as good as just about any rpg we received in the states. I was actually surprised how clean looked in it. I have confidence a port of P1 would look decent.

edit - I think what Sei is said is pretty valid. I remake would take a substantial amount of effort. On the other hand, maybe Atlus is delaying moving onto the PS3 or 360.

[Yes, P3/4 were fun, but there's a whole magical world of other ways to play out there, guys. While I found the P3 engine very fitting for a game like P3, it would be horrendously out of place in the earlier games.

I agree. P1 would have to be so drastically overhauled, it would be a shell of its former self. The multiple dungeons wouldn't really fit into the whole p3/p4 scheme either. And again, what would happen to the massive bestiary?

[thealchemistoftime]

they can also do the castlevania psp route like having the original psx game as an extra

[Kakizaki]

^Yes, but would Atlus USA bother with retranslating what is essentially bonus content?

The thought of IS/EP being remade frightens me as well. The story in IS is epic. Everything about that game is impressive. I would cringe if it were altered.

[Manic Expressive]

I would welcome a P2 IS/EP remake if only it retained it's battle system or at least is more similar to P4 with fusions techs.

S.links just wouldn't work out in the game since everyone can switch persona as they want, not just the protagonist. (I hate MC)

[Kakizaki]

^I would just hope it retained the negotiations as well. It would almost have to unless the rumor system was eliminated or crippled.

[ceifadorx]

For me if they change the battle to be at least for persona 2 i will be happy.
But i hope they make another translation this game like final fantasy tactics, if not i will not support it.

[Kakizaki]

^I prefer the formations, but I could handle the P2 system. I do wish some spell effects from P1 would be retained in that instance though.

[Pibbman]

Then again it might never make it here just like Devil summoner didn't.

Then Atlus shall face my WRAAATH! :devil:

[Iris]

Blame Sony for that one, not Atlus. :/

[Kakizaki]

^Nah, I believe you should be blaming technical issues with DS PSP.

[PFV]

^Source code, where are you?! :(

[Kakizaki]

^That was a huge blow to me. :/

One of the two SMT related titles I have wanted to see the most over the years.

[Kenji]

Is there really a chance for a P1 remake to come here? I seem to recall Atlus USA wanting to focus on bringing over new titles, not ports of old ones, due to profitability. Wasn't that why DS for the PSP didn't come here?

Then again, Persona's a lot more popular than Devil Summoner...

Then again, Atlus USA is already two MegaTens behind in their announcements... :confused:

[unknown]

I'd like tweaks to the original gameplay battle system to make it more streamline.

But other then that, no Social Links and #### please.

[Juanblue85]

Hey Kazikaki sorry for not supporting a link but I got a better one. straight from the source lets see how this one makes you feel.

http://playmagazine.com/index.php?fuseaction=SiteMain.showJapanPage&Japan_ID=242

[Kakizaki]

^Sorry man. ;) I gave you kind of a cheap shot earlier. I was just anxious. Thank you for the other link.

[Kakizaki]

Wasn't that why DS for the PSP didn't come here?No. Please see a few of the other comments in this thread regarding DS PSP. It is more likely that technical issues prevented DS PSP from coming here. I believe, as PFV pointed out, it was due to lost source code as the PSP version is emulated from the Saturn version of DS.

[Crabman]

Finally, a chance to play the original Persona without having to sell a lung!

I really don't think they should modify it to a P3 style...I've only played P2/P3/FES, but the demon contacts in P2 are ace, and easily make up for the lack of S-Links.

[James Fiend]

I read it was just a port from the PS1 game but with new scenarios and better localization. But I really hope it's a P3/P4 style remake, since I love P3/P4 style more than P2.
Haha, where did you hear that it would feature better localization? Was the original Japanese not Japanese enough?

Anyway, the game doesn't need any updating. A few added quests and/or characters would be fine. I never noticed any problems with the graphics, either.

[Kakizaki]

@Crabman,

I'm glad to hear that.

I'm willing to accept changes to some new titles in the franchise as I can see that they appeal to a different crowd. I can understand that it is vital to draw new people into the fan base. I'm trying to get better about conceding that.

However, I get frustrated when these newish fans dismiss the older titles or criticize those that still want that type of game play. I could kind of see that coming, commented as such a while back, and took a little heat for that attitude. I just hope that new fans remember that SMT and Persona did exist prior to P3/P4 and some of us were into it back then. I'm down for changes, but I also want a few throwback titles every now and then.

[cj iwakura]

Persona 1 with Persona 2 style movement would take about 90% of the frustration out of it.Not sure what you mean by this, but I prefer the formations for the first Persona. However, I did like the Persona pool / switching in P2 and fusions, but I agree with Sei that fusions can too easily be spammed. I actually prefer the contact system from 1.

Referring to the dungeon movement. Isometric > first person. I didn't mind it at first, but the final dungeon of P1 is sheer insanity.

It took me around 15 hours to complete.
(A lot of that was grinding, admittedly)

I did kind of like the formation system, but it tended to be frustrating more often than not.

Gun/sword combat, that I enjoyed. P1 had flaws, but it was a good game at the core. With the right adjustments, they can make it an excellent one.


Also, as I'm enjoying P2 right now, I can appreciate what it offers that P3/4 doesn't even more, namely the fusions, lack of protagonist death = game over, and easier access to every Persona you could ever want.

[Kakizaki]

^Gotcha. I do like first person, but those dungeons weren't designed very well. I could handle IS/EP style isometric dungeons.

I also really liked the gun and swords. I felt like I was playing Shadowrun at first. ;)

The formations could be alright if there was a skill implemented (like the one in Soul Hackers) that would prevent them being messed up during back attacks. I just felt the formations and the more restrictive rules regarding Persona assignment made for more specialized characters.

[Pibbman]

@Crabman,

I'm glad to hear that.

I'm willing to accept changes to some new titles in the franchise as I can see that they appeal to a different crowd. I can understand that it is vital to draw new people into the fan base. I'm trying to get better about conceding that.

However, I get frustrated when these newish fans dismiss the older titles or criticize those that still want that type of game play. I could kind of see that coming, commented as such a while back, and took a little heat for that attitude. I just hope that new fans remember that SMT and Persona did exist prior to P3/P4 and some of us were into it back then. I'm down for changes, but I also want a few throwback titles every now and then.

Just one of the curses that gamers have to live with you know. Especially with games that you end up becoming fond of, any changes made to the gameplay generally can cause mix feelings. However it's usually done to keep things fresh, and allowing the titles feel as they've evolved.

While I had not been fortunate enough to play any of the Persona games before P3, I even had slight mix feelings about some of the things they decided to change in P4 in respect to P3. However, after playing the game I realized that the developer is clearly going for each title being special in it's own way, and it's not meant to be a "P3 sequel" in that sense.

Honestly, if they do localize it here, I look forward to trying out the game that gave birth to the Persona series. Quite frankly the demon negotiation system and whatnot sounds a bit fun to me. I've watched a couple youtube videos of these encounter, and couldn't help but smile at some of them.

One example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU1P1nRqfZU&feature=related) was with these Characters in P2, started to Dance for a Pixie, and the pixie replied "Humans are fun! Pixie wants to become friends.." I couldn't help but imagine a childish female voice saying that. Granted this is from the Persona 2 version, but I imagine the same applies to the original.

I've still yet to play a game from the main SMT series, which I understand demon negotiations are commonplace. I look forward to it when I finally get around to it.

[Kakizaki]

However it's usually done to keep things fresh, and allowing the titles feel as they've evolved.I can understand that, but I think if you played any handful of SMT related titles from the 90s when the series was very popular in Japan, you would understand just how dramatic the recent changes have been -- especially considering how many long time staples from series were eliminated during this last generation of titles.

Evolving is one thing - like the transition between MIP and Persona IS/EP. Wholesale changes are another and tend to alienate some people. But oh well. I have written too much about that on this board already, and I don't really want this thread to go down that road.

Like I said, I am willing to concede some changes to the franchise. I simply won't automatically purchase every SMT related title any longer like I did in the past. I would just like to see a title that plays like classic SMT every now and again.

[EvilHero]

http://www.siliconera.com/2009/01/15/lets-read-gamewave-and-search-for-persona-psp-info/

Gamewave magazine has a listing for something. I don't know if that number in the picture is a release date. If it is, its possible that some kind of port is coming out.

Maybe we'll get the original Persona in all its unedited glory after all...

[jeffx]

edit: might as well delete this post then.

[EvilHero]

Oops. Yeah didn't see it, I don't go in there...

More hits = more business.

Wait, wha...?

Edit:
Thanks for moving this.

[mymerrilymemory]

If this does come here to the states....

let's hope they don't take out a huge chunk of the game this time.

And dumb the difficulty down.

And change peoples character portraits and nationalities.

Cause that would be kind of nifty... I've been staring at my PS1 copy for years, willing myself to finish it... I just can't find it in me.

[Saburo Hikari]

Ah, I've been wanting to try the PS1 Persona games, and it seems like I'll actually finally be able to do it without losing a limb.

I agree, while I absolutely love the P3/P4 game-play, changing the game-play would mean a drastic change in story and the game-play that made the original great. Not to mention it would also be insulting to earlier Persona fans such as Kakizaki here. Many SMT fans are already irritated by P3/P4. :/

I hope to see other SMT remakes too. Oh, and re-releases. I wanna try SMTIII without selling a heart and half a brain.

[Pibbman]

Ah, I've been wanting to try the PS1 Persona games, and it seems like I'll actually finally be able to do it without losing a limb.

I agree, while I absolutely love the P3/P4 game-play, changing the game-play would mean a drastic change in story and the game-play that made the original great. Not to mention it would also be insulting to earlier Persona fans such as Kakizaki here. Many SMT fans are already irritated by P3/P4. :/

I hope to see other SMT remakes too. Oh, and re-releases. I wanna try SMTIII without selling a heart and half a brain.

I went around looking for Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, and I remember the day I got an email about it being on amazon, went to the site and saw it in stock and all that jazz. I'm REALLY hating myself for not getting that.

Anyways, my point is, I'm have an extreme hate towards these SMT scalpers. You can see on ebay/amazon, people selling sealed copies of the reprint. Personally, I'm taking a wild guess that these people are SMT fans themselves, only looking to rip off other fans of the series. How low can you go?

[slayn]

Finally, a chance to play the original Persona without having to sell a lung!

...and it seems like I'll actually finally be able to do it without losing a limb.

Ok, where do you guys live that limbs and lungs go for $60-70?

[RayFoxSith]

I agree with everything Kakizaki said. While I think a lot of people would appreciate it if someone did a remake of, for example, Panzer Dragoon Saga. I just wouldn't want them to go ahead and change the system completely.

I kinda felt that's what happened when Sting made Baroque for the PS2, they kinda gave away some of the dark atmosphere of it by redoing the music or not making it entirely in first person. But then again, I'm a bit weird when it comes to some of that stuff.

It's all for the nostalgia factor. Old school gamers don't want things to be upgraded because it could hamper how they originally enjoyed the game. Think about if someone decided to do a remake of a game you truly enjoyed back in the day and screwed it up. Probably wouldn't appreciate that, right?

And dumb the difficulty down.

If you want an omelet, you gotta break some eggs, amirite? ;)

[Sei]

I thought you could play Baroque in first person?

I never played the Saturn one, was it really different from the ps2/wii ones? I actually rather liked the Wii one, heh.

[Emilio Morales]

Now we're talking about good stuff! Damn, that's an awesome new!

EDIT: And what about the US changes? Are we going to see them again? And the what about the Snow Queen quest? of course, If we see it for North America, hehe

[superbeast1370]

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1943/200901158d0da7342a6f899ad4.jpg

[James Fiend]

If they redo it for an English release, how many snarky references to the previous version would you expect to see?

[Pibbman]

Now we're talking about good stuff! Damn, that's an awesome new!

EDIT: And what about the US changes? Are we going to see them again? And the what about the Snow Queen quest? of course, If we see it for North America, hehe

If it even comes out here, if they go the same route with the edit and crap, I won't be buying it. Nothing I hate more than censorship. The only thing I don't understand is...why was the SQ quest removed?

[Kakizaki]

^Probably time constraints. Atlus possibly rushed to get the game out for the Xmas season in 96.

[Emilio Morales]

Now we're talking about good stuff! Damn, that's an awesome new!

EDIT: And what about the US changes? Are we going to see them again? And the what about the Snow Queen quest? of course, If we see it for North America, hehe

If it even comes out here, if they go the same route with the edit and crap, I won't be buying it. Nothing I hate more than censorship. The only thing I don't understand is...why was the SQ quest removed?

Well, let's hope for the arrival of that remake to North America and no censorship this time! >_<

[Kakizaki]

Reading around on other boards regarding this topic is just ugh.....Not so much because of differing opinions, but because of some of the rampant misinformation. Like this gem from rpgfan:

If anything, this will be a port like Soul Hackers PSP.

Wow, so there was a PSP port of Soul Hackers eh? lol. Someone is pretty confused / misinformed.

Also, I can't tell you how many times on how many different boards I have seen people that still think Sony denied Atlus USA permission regarding the DS PSP title.

[Rocket Science]

MIP on PSP without butcher-isation? I'd kill for that! I hated how Atlus USA handled MIP; childish dialogue, character derailment, lack of proper character development, overlooked cameos, they made the game easy, etc. etc. To be able to play the original as it was made, with a faithful and proper English translation, would be every bit as epic as October 15, 2008 was. All that would be left then would be to convert those heathens who dare say that the first-generation Persona titles are worthless and inferior compared to their sequels. ;)

[PFV]

Atlus USA isn't even the same company that it was back in '96. I'm pretty sure that if MIP makes it back here in remake form, everything will be intact (with the exception of maybe a random mahjong game).

Also, I can't tell you how many times on how many different boards I have seen people that still think Sony denied Atlus USA permission regarding the DS PSP title.
I wonder if this was just the result of people making crap up, or it's just getting confused with Soul Hackers PSX. After playing DS PSP, I can see why it was passed on (meaning how it runs, not how it plays- emulation, blah blah).

[Kakizaki]

^Maybe I am bias, but I thought DS PSP looked and ran just fine. Actually, I felt it looked really nice.

As for the misinformation, I'm not sure. I've even seen people go as far as claiming Atlus reps have stated the "official word" on DS PSP is that Sony denied it. I nagged on the board here for a good couple of years about DS PSP, and never saw anything even remotely close to a statement that would even hint at this.

[PFV]

^Maybe I am bias, but I thought DS PSP looked and ran just fine. Actually, I felt it looked really nice.
You misunderstand. I agree with you on this point. I just meant I could see why (from how the game technically ran), it would've been an undertaking to get it localized.

[Kakizaki]

^Oh, I gotcha. Makes sense. My bad. ;)

[AdrianMorales]

If Atlus USA is bothering with Hammerin Hero for the PSP then they might as well do the same with the Persona Remake. Am I right?

[superbeast1370]

if it makes it to NA, then its free beers for everyone at Atlus USA

[unknown]

if it makes it to NA, then its free beers for everyone at Atlus USA

I'm going to hold you to that

[Pibbman]

If Atlus USA is bothering with Hammerin Hero for the PSP then they might as well do the same with the Persona Remake. Am I right?

Hammerin Hero is just an atlus published title, I dont think it's developed by Atlus. They have an engine built for the PSP I believe, since they have DS on it. They might as well use it. I tried the demo for Hammerin hero it looked really nice and it was fun playing.

[Kakizaki]

^Well right, but I think the point was they are still publishing a game for PSP.

I really don't believe the engines for DS and a Persona on PSP would have anything to do with each other. DS was essentially emulated from the Saturn title.

[cj iwakura]

If this makes it to NA, I'll put my original copy of Persona 1 up for grabs.

[Enzo_Kensei]

I'm looking forward to the NA version, if there is any. I've never got a chance to play the Persona: Revelations back in my old days. Its cool that its about time to catch up and this time, for the PSP.

[Eddie Van Helsing]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172299

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release?

If Atlus USA grabs the remake, I hope they give it a better localization this time around. And, please don't turn Mark into some jive-ass black kid.

[superbeast1370]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172299

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release?

If Atlus USA grabs the remake, I hope they give it a better localization this time around. And, please don't turn Mark into some jive-ass black kid.

XD

[slayn]

There need to be more RPGs with jive-ass black kids.

[James Fiend]

There need to be more RPGs with jive-ass black kids.
While not exactly the same, if you pre-order Afro Samurai, you get a free figurine.

[superbeast1370]

There need to be more RPGs with jive-ass black kids.

eh????

[slayn]

This. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZwMcoDVJM)

[superbeast1370]

This. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZwMcoDVJM)

http://www.friendsvinp.org/Programs/archeol/images/Stoneface-2small.jpg

[Darkined]

sweet now I have something to look forward to feed my persona addiction on the run

[claidhmore]

This makes me happy in the pants, if it's a translation of the port (which is what it looks like). I will buy it in a heartbeat.

[Tsuko]

Atlus probaly knows by now how much we want to see this and Innocent Sin over here, just please make sure its 100% similar to the Japanese version

[Kakizaki]

I would like to see one particular thing remedied in a potential Persona port; experience distribution. It was kind of annoying in the first Persona in that it wasn't even. The characters that were determined to have done the most during the battle, received the most exp. It was very lopsided at times.

[Emilio Morales]

I would like to see one particular thing remedied in a potential Persona port; experience distribution. It was kind of annoying in the first Persona in that it wasn't even. The characters that were determined to have done the most during the battle, received the most exp. It was very lopsided at times.

Yeah that was annoying! I remember that I have Mark with a Persona with the skill NukerMore and he was able to act first and with that attack I was able to wipe most of the enemies and he received a lot of EXP and the other characters were left behind.

[Kakizaki]

^For the most part, outside of a few instances, Mark always lags far behind everyone else for me. I don't find most of the Persona he can equip particularly effective. They seem to usually be physical damage dealers, and with where I place him in the formation, he really doesn't have that decent of range.

[cj iwakura]

His shotgun was great for doing AOE damage, at least.

[Kakizaki]

It was, but since TEC was so completely overwhelming in every area, I pumped all of my points into TEC on the main character at level up. As a result, he is always in the center of my formation. The shotgun isn't as useful for me because of this.

edit - Maybe the TEC stat would have to be rebalanced as well. Maybe it could be similar in effect to the TEC stat in IS/EP in that it raises magic attack and defense and SP growth only.

[blitzxor]

Does the weird email I just got with a silhouetted character in front of a Shin Megami Tensei background have something to do with this rumor?

I enjoyed P3/P4 more than any other RPG I have played in years, so I can only hope there is more on the way.

[Kakizaki]

^No...

[brunbb]

I hope this is just an updated translation to piss off all the P3/4 fanboys.

[Darkined]

I hope this is just an updated translation to piss off all the P3/4 fanboys.

I don't think hatin is going to make them mess this up if they localize it here.

And P3/4 have fanboys because they are actually very good role playing games.

[Manic Expressive]

And so are the rest of the games in the series, I wouldn't have a problem if they were just updated ports since I didn't even really finish the original Persona. Persona 2 is just absolutely perfect the way it is, it doesn't need an update.

[brunbb]

Persona 1 most definitely needs an updated translation. Square EA thinks that translation was weak.

[Kakizaki]

^Everyone thinks the translation is weak. It is a non issue though. I'm not sure why it gets brought up so often. I've never heard anyone argue otherwise.

It was '96 and standards were much different.

[brunbb]

Because it was the "Epic Movie" of translations. Standards were different because people didn't know better.

[James Fiend]

I hope this is just an updated translation to piss off all the P3/4 fanboys.
Why would this piss off the P3/4 fanboys?

[brunbb]

Because of how different the games are.

[Kakizaki]

Because it was the "Epic Movie" of translations. Standards were different because people didn't know better.

It was a combination of things imo. A lot of people may have not known better, a lot of people were desperate for console rpgs in the West and were willing to look past poor localizations, and publishers did not give the console rpg market here enough credit / worth.

Because of how different the games are.I think you probably need to give more of an explanation than that. I get what you are saying, and can see how you may come to that conclusion based off of what is frequently said on other message boards (trust me, it really frustrates me and I said as much in the past), but I kind of see the potential for a snippy flame war here. It's cool that people disagree, but I just want to see some well thought out comments.

[Tsuko]

Because of how different the games are.

lol lol I would love to see a Persona game that doesnt use full anime style gameplay and graphics and Atlus please make sure to add subtitles to ingame cutscenes next time


Persona 4 didnt have any

[Saburo Hikari]

I hope this is just an updated translation to piss off all the P3/4 fanboys.Yeah, this won't piss me off. I want to play P1 and P2 because of how much I enjoyed P3 and P4. Whether I like this P1 remake more or less than P3 and P4, I don't care. I just want to play it, as well as other MegaTen games. =]

[brunbb]

I think you probably need to give more of an explanation than that. I get what you are saying, and can see how you may come to that conclusion based off of what is frequently said on other message boards (trust me, it really frustrates me and I said as much in the past), but I kind of see the potential for a snippy flame war here. It's cool that people disagree, but I just want to see some well thought out comments.

Okay.

Back when Resident Evil 4 was released, it managed to attract more fans than the previous titles. The new fans liked it and went back to play the old ones, and a lot of them were upset and unhappy when they saw how different the games are.

When the Metal Gear Solid collection for PS2 out, there were somehow a lot of people that hadn't yet played MGS1. When they finally did, they basically did nothing but complain about how bad the graphics are and how the gameplay isn't as good.

It's just how a lot of fanboys think. They get so ingrained in thinking a game is one way, only to find out that it used to be a lot different and hate it for being different.

[cj iwakura]

Didn't Persona 1 predate Final Fantasy VII? At very least, I think it came out before FF7 changed the RPG industry forever.

[thealchemistoftime]

it came in 98 in the us

[Kakizaki]

Didn't Persona 1 predate Final Fantasy VII? At very least, I think it came out before FF7 changed the RPG industry forever.

Yes it did. A lot of dates floating around the internet are incorrect. Persona was released in the U.S. in December of '96. I probably have my receipt for it floating around somewhere.

it came in 98 in the us

Huh? What are you basing this off of? Like I said, P1 came out in the U.S. in '96.

[SickleCellAnemia]

words

:roll:

[James Fiend]

Okay.

Back when Resident Evil 4 was released, it managed to attract more fans than the previous titles. The new fans liked it and went back to play the old ones, and a lot of them were upset and unhappy when they saw how different the games are.

When the Metal Gear Solid collection for PS2 out, there were somehow a lot of people that hadn't yet played MGS1. When they finally did, they basically did nothing but complain about how bad the graphics are and how the gameplay isn't as good.

It's just how a lot of fanboys think. They get so ingrained in thinking a game is one way, only to find out that it used to be a lot different and hate it for being different.

I kind of understand what you're saying, but I think Persona is good enough that there wouldn't be the same backlash; especially if they fix the translation and bring back the Snow Queen Quest. The game isn't any more dated than the countless Final Fantasy remakes coming out, and I would argue that the success has so far outweighed any complaints.

[Marnic]

The big questiron here is obviously wether they should or should not remake the first game with the P3/P4 formula.

I never found the first game too appealing, then again I never really beat it. I really wouldn't mind giving it another shot though. But I understand what Atlus is thinking if they actually did change it to feel the same as P3/P4.
After all for many P3/P4 is what defines Persona, most people don't care about the older games.

Remaking the first game entierly will please some and anger others, there's nothing more to add to it.

Personally, I'd rather just have a port of an improved P3 for the PSP to match up to Persona 4's standards.

[unknown]

I am not buying another copy of P3, I've already bought 2 copies and that's good enough for me.

[Kenji]

Judging from the many rereleases of SMTI and II, the new version of SMTIII, and the port of Devil Summoner on the PSP, it just doesn't seem Atlus JP's style to do anything that resembles an overhaul. I think the most we could hope for is a slight graphical cleanup and maybe an extra quest or item. Replacing Kaneko's style with Soejima's or changing the battle system to match P3/P4's interface seems out of the question.

I hope the news is true and that it comes here. After all, I'd like to play P1 for less than a triple-digit price. :D

[Kakizaki]

After all for many P3/P4 is what defines Persona, most people don't care about the older games.You need to be very careful making statements like this. Obviously there are a lot of people that still care about the older Persona titles -- myself included. There were quite a few people that were happy / excited for the fan translation of IS.

I would also disagree that P3/P4 necessarily define Persona. It's cool P3/P4 brought some new fans into the series, but some of us were into Persona long before those two titles.

Replacing Kaneko's style with Soejima's

I get what you were saying with some of the other stuff and agree except for this. Soejima did handle the in game character portraits for Persona IS/EP, basing them of KK's original designs. In the Persona World Guidance book you can see them side by side.

[Kenji]

I get what you were saying with some of the other stuff and agree except for this. Soejima did handle the in game character portraits for Persona IS/EP, basing them of KK's original designs. In the Persona World Guidance book you can see them side by side.
Yeah, I knew this. ;) I don't remember if I learned it here or elsewhere, though. That's why I was talking about "style" rather than the actual artist.

[Kakizaki]

^Ahh, I see.

[Marnic]

[quote]I would also disagree that P3/P4 necessarily define Persona. It's cool P3/P4 brought some new fans into the series, but some of us were into Persona long before those two titles.

I never said that EVERYBODY liked it better, I just said that many of the fans do. Didn't mean it in a bad way.

[Las Lobos]

In response to earlier replies about the battle system, if this remake does end up using the P3/P4 battle system I'm happy with it but like Kakizaki said it's not a remake if they use a different battle system it's just a different game in my opinion, but if they do use the original battle system(s) from P1 or P2 then I'm happy with that to, it'd bring that old school Persona-ness to it's roots for this generation of people who have yet to experience it even those who don't particularly care for the battle systems of Persona 1 and Persona 2. It's been years since I've played these ones and it'd be a very wonderful addition to my gaming library and to the PSP if they kept it the way it should be.

[Enzeru]

I want them to keep it the same so that I can play it as originally intended, but I can also see why others may want to "update" it a bit to comply with today's gaming standards.

[mymerrilymemory]

Replacing Kaneko's style with Soejima's

I just felt my heart sink- I love both of their designs, but Soejima's concept art works best for "high school" designs (if that makes sense?) P2's my favorite game, and comparing his work from then, to now, it's changed dramatically.
Random tangent is random. It just hurts to see try and imagine the game done in P3/4 style :surprise: (you try and imagine it haha)

In the Persona World Guidance book you can see them side by side.

Oh man I just got this last week~! I like to call it the Encyclopedia Britanica for Persona XD I wish I could find the Club Book and Art Tribute to add to my giant collection...

I never said that EVERYBODY liked it better, I just said that many of the fans do. Didn't mean it in a bad way.
If you think about it, it's kind of depressing to us old-fogies who grew up with SMT and the first Personas :\
It's like, yay more SMT/Persona fans.... but most of them will never have the chance to play the first games, or say if they do, I've seen at least in my experience (not saying everyone) the general response to the games is people don't like them as much as P3/4 because there's such a vast difference (which breaks my own heart.)
I can tell you I was expecting something similar to P2 when P3 was first announced and it was kind of wtf to see it go towards such a different direction with all the high school activities and social interaction. In my opinion it just seemed a lot more 'youthful' for lack of better adjective.
But that's just like, my opinion man~

[Jonny The Pie King]

Oh...well...details may mean that I might be picking up a PSP...which I really don't want to do. Already have a DS, Wii, PS3, and PC to play games on. I'd rather not have more stuff to buy :p

Straight port, probably won't get it. Uncensored and retooled for the US (as in, fixed localization), we shall see.

[Saburo Hikari]

I never said that EVERYBODY liked it better, I just said that many of the fans do. Didn't mean it in a bad way.
If you think about it, it's kind of depressing to us old-fogies who grew up with SMT and the first Personas :\
It's like, yay more SMT/Persona fans.... but most of them will never have the chance to play the first games, or say if they do, I've seen at least in my experience (not saying everyone) the general response to the games is people don't like them as much as P3/4 because there's such a vast difference (which breaks my own heart.)
I can tell you I was expecting something similar to P2 when P3 was first announced and it was kind of wtf to see it go towards such a different direction with all the high school activities and social interaction. In my opinion it just seemed a lot more 'youthful' for lack of better adjective.
But that's just like, my opinion man~Yeah, reminds me of those rabid Final Fantasy VII fanboys/girls that refuse to give Final Fantasy I-VI a try. FFVI is waaaay better than FFVII in my opinion. I played a bit of FFVII before FFVI too. Which is why I'm going to try this P1 remake with open arms, regardless of how different it is from my favorite gaming style that is of P3/P4.

[Manic Expressive]

http://i39.tinypic.com/29gen3k.jpg

[Tatsuya]

Well coming form someone who's played most all shin megami tensei series to date (excluding ronde and devil children) i can say that all of the games have their own charm in them, to try to change them is a bad idea.
Don't get me wrong, persona 4 is my favorite megaten game to date(and current all time favorite game), but changing persona 1's style to fit newer audiences would be imo forgetting what made the game so great.

Persona 1 only needs to be streamlined, in that i mean make the controls more bearable(persona 1's controls in overhead view were atrocious), localize the story better, re-add the snow queen quest and not make make mark(masao)black for no reason.
And well basically make all the characters their original selves, the hero looks entirely different in the japanese version too, something that always bugged me is they thought he didn't look right for the U.S. lol.

[diosisback]

The first Persona was the worst in the series (it was one of the first RPGs for the PSX after all) so there is a lot of room for improvement. I hope it will not be a mere port.

[Kakizaki]

^It was far from one of the worst titles in the series. It just suffered from a poor, yet understandable given the time, localization.

It also wasn't one of the first rpgs on PSX...

[Emilio Morales]

It also wasn't one of the first rpgs on PSX...

Suikoden I was one of the first rpgs for the PSX, if I'm not wrong.

[Kakizaki]

^I guess it really all depends on how you look at it. With Persona, as it came out in Japan around late summer / early fall 1996, almost a full two years after the Japanese launch of the PSX, I really don't view it as one of the first rpgs on PSX -- especially when there were quite a few before it; Suikoden I included.

[slayn]

Beyond the Beyond, fools.

[blitzxor]

^Holy crap, that was a TERRIBLE game.

I have posted in here before about how P3/P4 are the best RPGs I have ever played, and have really made me an SMT fan (I just picked up Nocturne and started playing it... a lot different, but so far I'm enjoying it, just got to the first battle with Matador and it's tricky).

That said, I did play Persona 1 when it first came out on PSX. I really enjoyed the game, a lot, for the first 15 hours or so. It then became superbly frustrating and completely unbearable. Keep in mind, it's been years since I played it last, so I might have a very different experience of it today. But the way I remember it, it had lots of room for improvement beyond simply updating the localization.

Now, I'm not necessarily pushing for a P3/P4 style remake either... Despite my abandonment of the game due to extreme frustration, the art style and atmosphere really sticks out in my mind as having been superb. But I do hope they include a number of gameplay tweaks to fix some of the things that pissed me off ss much the first time around.

[Kakizaki]

Beyond the Beyond, fools.

Arc the Lad. :P

[diosisback]

When I said "one of the first RPGs", I was referring to RPGs released outside of Japan.

Sorry for the confusion !

[Marlonbr]

WoW, a remake of Persona Reveleations would be amazing indeed.
And about the gameplay, I believe it would be better if it stayed the same, however, I'd rather see the original japanese characters! No censor at all this time... =P

Just one question, Kakizaki, I saw you posting that the silhouetted image people received from Atlus has nothing to do with this rumor...
Could it be that, there are going to be two different releases? A persona remake, and a another unknown game?

[Kakizaki]

Just one question, Kakizaki, I saw you posting that the silhouetted image people received from Atlus has nothing to do with this rumor...
Could it be that, there are going to be two different releases? A persona remake, and a another unknown game?

No...There was little room for interpretation in that massive hint. Also, it has already been confirmed what that 'hint' was for.

[Marlonbr]

^Has it? So, what was that 'hint' for? I don't have any idea...

[Kakizaki]

^...

http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2828

[Marlonbr]

Heh, I apologize for that. My head is hurting and I didn't have the patience to do a little search, my bad...
So the Devil summoner released is confirmed. Let's hope the same happens for the Persona remake. I'm really looking foward to it. ^^

[Kakizaki]

^First the Persona port has to turn out to be more than a rumor. There hasn't been anything to support that though as of yet.

[Marlonbr]

You're right, Kakizaki, but since I'm dreamer and I love the game, I will keep on believing it's gonna be released! o/

[Kakizaki]

^I can't fault you for that. ;)

[DevilRy]

It's about time. The first Persona was amazing. Too bad I don't have a PSP. :(

[xHaseox]

Announced in Famitsu.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351217

Persona PSP
- 29th April
- Port of the PS1 original
- Revamped UI
- Anime cutscenes

[cj iwakura]

If SCEA block this from reaching the states, there will be blood.

[Kakizaki]

If SCEA block this from reaching the states, there will be blood.

Count me in

We had better see this

Any link to the scan?

[jj984jj]

If SCEA block this from reaching the states, there will be blood.

Count me in

We had better see this

Any link to the scan?

Just this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/ka2329.jpg

Hopefully the new GUI will help getting around easier. I'm a bit sad it's a port with a few changes but if it makes it over (obviously unbutchered) then I'll gladly pick it up.

[Las Lobos]

Yeah doesn't seem like we're gettin much love in info at the moment but it's definitely better then nothing.

[Kakizaki]

If SCEA block this from reaching the states, there will be blood.

Count me in

We had better see this

Any link to the scan?

Just this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/ka2329.jpg

Hopefully the new GUI will help getting around easier. I'm a bit sad it's a port with a few changes but if it makes it over (obviously unbutchered) then I'll gladly pick it up.

Thank you ;). I appreciate that. Okay, I'm squinting here but I might guess the formations are gone. Look at the pic in the bottom right.

I'm cool with the minimal changes. I am just curious how the original designs will utilized in anime cutscenes or if they will be utilized at all. The one still doesn't quite look right to me.

edit - I do still see the original art for the main in a dialog box.

[xHaseox]

Since it's not a straight port, I don't see why SCEA would have a problem with it.

Square Enix was allowed to bring over the Valkyrie Profile port. Wasn't the only update to that title the CGI scenes?

[Manic Expressive]

^About right yes. Atlus had better localize this. If they know what's good for them. ;)

[Kakizaki]

^Get yer butt up to the suggestion area.

[Sseklebeast]

Sounds awesome! I want it :D

[mythus]

if you want my money, get this localized! also bundle it with a jack frost plushie to accompany my Teddy and future-coming Raiho plushie.

[Pibbman]

If SCEA block this from reaching the states, there will be blood.

Count me in

We had better see this

Any link to the scan?

Just this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/ka2329.jpg

Hopefully the new GUI will help getting around easier. I'm a bit sad it's a port with a few changes but if it makes it over (obviously unbutchered) then I'll gladly pick it up.

Thank you ;). I appreciate that. Okay, I'm squinting here but I might guess the formations are gone. Look at the pic in the bottom right.

I'm cool with the minimal changes. I am just curious how the original designs will utilized in anime cutscenes or if they will be utilized at all. The one still doesn't quite look right to me.

edit - I do still see the original art for the main in a dialog box.

from Kotaku.

Persona is a "complete remake" of the 13 year-old PlayStation game. It has more save points, difficulty options, new cutscenes and the game balance adjustments. It will be out in Japan on April 29th.

So it's not a "pure" port. Who knows what game balance adjustments mean.

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/156850/persona_psp.jpg

There is really no reason we shouldn't see this game out this fall (unless they pull another 'technical issues'). However, this time hopefully they'll do the Snow Queen quest, since according to that Retronaut podcast, they didn't do it the first time because they wanted to get the game out in time for the holiday. So Atlus you better not pull off the same thing!

From my understanding, Sony doesn't allow straight ports for localization so this may be why it's technically a "remake" with some additional stuff and things being replaced/added

[Evila]

Better scans here.

http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/2009/02/famitsu-20090206.html

Also looks like the new cutscenes are actually cel-shaded 3D, not drawn.
Anywho, looks cool. Never played the first Persona so I'd definitely get this if there was a US release.

[EDIT] Oh lol my bad. Didn't realize the topic in the suggestions forum was going strong, and these were already posted there. Welp, will leave this here anyways, just in case someone else hasn't seen it.

[Marlonbr]

Simply Amazing!!!! It's for real!!! Yeah!!!
Now we just have to wait a word from Atlus USA. =P

[Enzo_Kensei]

Oh man! Its for real! Atlus USA, better release a NA version soon. ^^

[Emilio Morales]

^Really soon!

Phew! My PSP just came in the rigth time!! :D

[Auragaea]

I am so happy to hear about this that I'm actually about to cry. Yes. I'm quite serious. This game had SO MANY elements in it that I think were much creepier and darker than the current Persona games and I really, really, really TRIED to like this game, but because of the design flaws and horrible translation, I just couldn't enjoy it. But now, I'm just so excited that there might a chance for me to finally play this game in a coherent state!! And I'm also excited that the Snow Queen Quest will be available for us to play!!!! YES!!!! Atlus USA, please, please, please, please, pretty please with sugar on top LOCALIZE THIS GAME!!!!

[Kakizaki]

^Be sure to check out the suggestion area if you haven't already. ;)

[mymerrilymemory]

crap now I have to buy a PSP



...but cell shaded cut scenes? really?

[Darkined]

cell shaded cutscenes are probably used to visually make it connect with p3 and p4

[ryne11]

I JUST sold my PSP to pay for future Eye Surgery. What are the odds? :|

[Tatsuya]

Well i'm not sure about the battle system kakizaki, looks similar to me, though i'm pretty sure the persona system was changed(it looked a little too similar to persona 4's).

[mymerrilymemory]

^I can't even tell a difference based off the tiny screen shots? I don't see too much changed besides the interfacing

cell shaded cutscenes are probably used to visually make it connect with p3 and p4

.....P3/4 didn't even use cell-shading. it was animated.
And there really is no reasoning to even bother trying to 'connect' them. they're way to different to even bother. ...well except to sell more I guess.

But anyways, cell-shading is probably easier for the psp processor to draw than cgi, I just think it's really odd. (I can't recall an SMT with cell shading haha)

[Tatsuya]

^I can't even tell a difference based off the tiny screen shots? I don't see too much changed besides the interfacing

cell shaded cutscenes are probably used to visually make it connect with p3 and p4

.....P3/4 didn't even use cell-shading. it was animated.
And there really is no reasoning to even bother trying to 'connect' them. they're way to different to even bother. ...well except to sell more I guess.

But anyways, cell-shading is probably easier for the psp processor to draw than cgi, I just think it's really odd. (I can't recall an SMT with cell shading haha)
Evila posted this link:
http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/2009/02/famitsu-20090206.html
click on the pictures to see them close up, i'll post them in here in a few though.

EDIT:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/tatsuya1221/54871_p1_122_210lo.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/tatsuya1221/54873_p2_122_125lo.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/tatsuya1221/54876_p3_122_1133lo.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/tatsuya1221/54883_p4_122_726lo.jpg
Sorry about the size, i don't know how to make them thumbnail size.

[mymerrilymemory]

^yeah I've got them saved on my HD already haha

oh did you mean the fusion system? I thought you meant the actual summoning/battle mechanics

[Tatsuya]

^yeah I've got them saved on my HD already haha

oh did you mean the fusion system? I thought you meant the actual summoning/battle mechanics

Yeah i meant fusion, though that does worry me about if the demon contract system still remains.

[mymerrilymemory]

^I don't think it should be too much of a problem. They could just add in tarot cards as a part of a requirement to summon as well. But if they remove it I will be a very sad panda

[Kakizaki]

^yeah I've got them saved on my HD already haha

oh did you mean the fusion system? I thought you meant the actual summoning/battle mechanics

Yeah i meant fusion, though that does worry me about if the demon contract system still remains.

Why would it worry you if the contact system remained? It is much easier to understand than people tend to give it credit for.

Also, I'm not sure how you are coming to the conclusion it will be similar to P4's based off of those screen shots. If anything, the shot of the old fusion chart makes me think it is basically remaining the same.

[Olethros]

^I don't think it should be too much of a problem. They could just add in tarot cards as a part of a requirement to summon as well. But if they remove it I will be a very sad panda

Triple M (my new nickname for you),

This is off topic, but what is your avatar from? Seems awfully familiar.


Also, on topic, this would actually make me consider buying a PSP.
...and yes, Kaki, I'll hit up the suggestion section! ;)

[mymerrilymemory]

^from Devil Survivor, scan from this months issue of Famitsu Wave and lolyay Triple M

I'm going to go out and buy a PSP now, oh well give's me a reason to finally pick up those NIS games I've been staring wistfully at as well. And an excuse to import devil summoner...

[Olethros]

Ah. Yes, that is where I saw it. Thanks Triple M.

[Tatsuya]

^yeah I've got them saved on my HD already haha

oh did you mean the fusion system? I thought you meant the actual summoning/battle mechanics

Yeah i meant fusion, though that does worry me about if the demon contract system still remains.

Why would it worry you if the contact system remained? It is much easier to understand than people tend to give it credit for.

Also, I'm not sure how you are coming to the conclusion it will be similar to P4's based off of those screen shots. If anything, the shot of the old fusion chart makes me think it is basically remaining the same.

I haven't played it in at least 8 years, so you probably know more about that then i do, so how did it work in the original?
I think i'm getting it mixed up with persona 2.

[Kakizaki]

^You raise the interest level of a demon. Once it is maxed, you get its tarot card. You only receive one tarot card from each demon and you only need to combine / fuse 2 cards to create a Persona. It is pretty simple. That pic with Igor and the x's and o's is a fusion chart.

Each player character has 4 unique negotiation skills. The characters utilize these independently - that is there are no team negotiation skills like in IS and EP.

The phases of the moon also play heavily into how a demon will respond to negotiation skills.

I hope that makes some sense. Let me know if it doesn't.


Side note, this Persona has some of my favorite overworld music.

[marto_motoko]

Everyone lets rush over to the suggestion area so we can contribute there, and keep the convo there. :D

This is SO awesome!!! We better get it come this fall. :tongue:

[Kakizaki]

^I literally can't express how much I want this game. I feel like I am reading that November of '96 issue of GameFan all over again....

[Eldorado112]

ya dont remake persona 1 to p3 style! and id like a new game. a persona game just for psp. IT would be cool if you could pick to have a girl or a boy as the mc but other than that no remakes it gets rid of the originality and could completely ruin the game

[Kakizaki]

^Don't know if you missed it, but they aren't making the first Persona to fit into the P3/P4 mold. Looks like good old classic MIP. ;)

[Eldorado112]

what game is that?

[Foryth]

MIP = Megami Ibunroku(sp?) Persona = Persona 1

;)

[Inzaghi]

They seem to have dropped the Megami Ibunroku (as well as the "Be Your True Mind") for this version, though. It's just Persona.

[Quig]

I can't wait for this! Hopefully, it will come out here before Christmas!

"Last year's Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 was the best reviewed PS2 game of the year, and certainly one of the best RPGs available. But it all began back on the original PlayStation with Persona, before the series merged with the Shin Megami Tensei name. And if you didn't get a chance to play the first Persona before, you'll soon get your chance...in handheld form.

According to Kombo, Atlus is readying a port of the cult classic for the PSP, and it will feature "new characters, along with new storyline elements and additional scenarios." We're not sure if it will boast enhanced visuals just yet - although it probably will - but we do know it's scheduled to release in Japan on April 30. It's unlikely we'll see a simultaneous worldwide launch (hell, it's damn near impossible), but here's hoping the game will come to North America not long after it launches in the Land of the Rising Sun. RPG fans are probably quite familiar with Persona, but if you're a little younger, you probably never got the chance. Sure, it looks out-of-date and wasn't among the elite role-playing titles of the 32-bit generation, but it still holds a special place in the hearts of many RPG fans. Back then, there were so many great titles to choose from, and the mere fact that Persona is even remembered amidst the likes of unbelievable Squaresoft gems is a worthy accomplishment. Will it stand the test of time with this port?

Here's hoping it does, and if you desire an excellent old-school role-playing experience on the go, keep a sharp eye out for a U.S. release date. We'll let you know when/if they announce it."

http://www.psxextreme.com/psp-news/1476.html

[xHaseox]

I wonder if the localized version of the port will have Shin Megami Tensei slapped on it somewhere.

[Kakizaki]

If there is a localized version.

[Dave3]

According to 1up the game will have a new soundtrack from Shoji Meguro, who is also the director. The game will also feature new difficulty options (I hope the original difficulty will be left intact as well.) and the anime scenes are being done by Kamikaze Douga.

Link: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172608

[Gemini]

I wonder if the localized version of the port will have Shin Megami Tensei slapped on it somewhere.
You can be your ass they will add again the "Shin Megami Tensei" label just to sell more copies, as usual.

[slayn]

hmm yes how dare a company try to sell more copies of their game through brand recognition

[xHaseox]

I wonder if the localized version of the port will have Shin Megami Tensei slapped on it somewhere.
You can be your ass they will add again the "Shin Megami Tensei" label just to sell more copies, as usual.

You say it like it's a bad thing.

[Ike.]

I wonder if the localized version of the port will have Shin Megami Tensei slapped on it somewhere.
You can be your ass they will add again the "Shin Megami Tensei" label just to sell more copies, as usual.

So is Persona not an SMT game now...?

[Gemini]

You say it like it's a bad thing.
Considering Persona is not part of the "Shin" series, it is bad indeed. But hey, this is marketing!

So is Persona not an SMT game now...?
The creators were pretty clear on this: they called the first Persona "Megami Ibunroku" for a reason, in fact. They also said they wanted to create a new series, not a branch to Megami Tensei (yes, no Shin).

[SickleCellAnemia]

Considering Persona is not part of the "Shin" series, it is bad indeed. But hey, this is marketing!

^Shouldn't you be working on a certain translation? *coughfirstwordisdevillastwordishackerscough*

[Gemini]

^Shouldn't you be working on a certain translation? *coughfirstwordisdevillastwordishackerscough*
That never was one of my projects, so... NO. ;p

[Kakizaki]

According to 1up the game will have a new soundtrack from Shoji Meguro, who is also the director. The game will also feature new difficulty options (I hope the original difficulty will be left intact as well.) and the anime scenes are being done by Kamikaze Douga.

Link: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172608

I'm kind of curious / concerned about a new soundtrack. I loved the soundtrack of the original :/ .

[mymerrilymemory]

^Seconding, I really hope this is a rumor... but alas I cannot read kanji :c

^Shouldn't you be working on a certain translation? *coughfirstwordisdevillastwordishackerscough*
That never was one of my projects, so... NO. ;p

OH HO.

[DevilRy]

http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/

The CG-cut scenes look pretty dumb. :frown: Frankly, it really does look like they're trying to fit the first Persona in with the visual style/world of the new ones: slightly bigger heads than necessary, modern-manga stylings, etc.

Honestly I'm pissed about the soundtrack. I know Meguro did a lot of the tracks from the original, but if they redo the soundtrack to be like the new games than screw this remake. I'll stick to the original. Despite many of P1's problems, it's soundtrack was NEVER one of them and I'd resent it's removal. It's seriously some of the best video game music I've ever heard period.

[Kakizaki]

Despite many of P1's problems, it's soundtrack was NEVER one of them and I'd resent it's removal. It's seriously some of the best video game music I've ever heard period.

I totally agree.

[triverse]

I can't wait for Persona to come to the PSP. It will be awesome, remake or not.
But, if it is a remake why not just save the extra money and release the original on the PSN for $5 or so and spend money on a new version (of course they are saying there will be extra stuff).

[Las Lobos]

Holy ATLUS, 13 years....played it when I was 8 and I still remember it, good times glad to see it coming back. Thanks for those scans to. Also about the soundtrack, I agree with Kakizaki I don't want them to change it, I liked the soundtrack in the original this is something I think they should keep in the PSP version.

[Dave3]

I enjoy the original soundtrack quite a bit as well. I was rocking out to the boss battle theme while playing just earlier today. I'm hoping the new soundtrack will be at least somewhat influenced by the original. I generally enjoy Meguro's music anyway, so I still have faith that it'll be pretty good.

[ceifadorx]

Guys, do you know what extras will be in this game?
I mean extra persona, equipament, character.

[Auragaea]

Really...? I hope that when they say "new" soundtrack, they mean rearranged soundtracks cause I really loved the songs in P1.

[Kakizaki]

Guys, do you know what extras will be in this game?
I mean extra persona, equipament, character.

Its a bit early. I'm not sure anyone knows yet.

[Emilio Morales]

So, "Syujinkou" is the name of the MC?

[Inzaghi]

So, "Syujinkou" is the name of the MC?

Shuujinkou is just the Japanese word for "hero," essentially. Back during P3's production, I used to listen to the translators talk about Shuujinkou in Japanese and wonder what game they were talking about, because we weren't publishing anything with a character called Shuujinkou.

[Emilio Morales]

oooh!! Thanks for letting me know ;)

[mymerrilymemory]

Persona trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsztIwrUNs



.....with what sounds like Shoji Meguru music..............

[Inzaghi]

Persona trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsztIwrUNs

.....with what sounds like Shoji Meguru music..............

Well, Shoji Meguro is directing the remake. But he also worked on the original game (did some of my favorite tracks) so I don't think there's too much need to worry that he doesn't know what the original Persona sounded like.

[Sseklebeast]

Interesting..

[Juanblue85]

Persona trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsztIwrUNs

.....with what sounds like Shoji Meguru music..............

Well, Shoji Meguro is directing the remake. But he also worked on the original game (did some of my favorite tracks) so I don't think there's too much need to worry that he doesn't know what the original Persona sounded like.

I really like Shoji Meguro's music. That's why I own most of the soundtracks that came with the SMT games (minus SMT: DS RK vs SA) in the US.

[Emilio Morales]

Awesome!! :)

[mymerrilymemory]

Well, Shoji Meguro is directing the remake. But he also worked on the original game (did some of my favorite tracks) so I don't think there's too much need to worry that he doesn't know what the original Persona sounded like.

ah, really? the only soundtrack I have is P2:EP. I had no idea he worked with the first one. I get my name's mixed up all the time too, so that doesn't help

[DevilRy]

Meguro did *some* of the music from the original Persona, but the majority of the soundtrack was composed by Hidehito Aoki & Kenichi Tsuchiya. Meguro was responsible more for the "repeating" tracks, such as the Velvet Room, Satomi Tadashi, etc. Most of them aren't bad, but considering what he's done recently... I know people love the guy here, but I just can't stand him now. When I played Persona 3 it was with the sound off. :( Most of Meguro's tracks on the MIP soundtrack sound like the "Mortal Kombat"-techno song from the bad 90s movie.

My favorite track in MIP was "City 2 Disaster," the Maki's World walking around town music (I'm not sure, you may have to be on the "light"-side of town). There's a lot of really dark, ambient and downright experimental tracks on the soundtrack. 95%, if taken out of context, probably couldn't even be identified as game music.

[Kakizaki]

My favorite track in MIP was "City 2 Disaster," the Maki's World walking around town music (I'm not sure, you may have to be on the "light"-side of town).

Mine too! I get this weird feeling that reminds me of light reflect off of water when I hear it. And yes, you do have to be on the light side of town. Sometimes I just sit there to avoid battle so I can listen to that track. ;)

Meguro did *some* of the music from the original Persona, but the majority of the soundtrack was composed by Hidehito Aoki & Kenichi Tsuchiya. Meguro was responsible more for the "repeating" tracks, such as the Velvet Room, Satomi Tadashi, etc. Most of them aren't bad, but considering what he's done recently... I know people love the guy here, but I just can't stand him now.

This is what I kind of thought regarding MIP's soundtrack. I'm trying to be optimistic that he doesn't get too crazy -- the Velvet Room in MIP only had the one looping track so I guess he can go nuts there. I'm just nervous as P3's music seriously turned me off.

[Pibbman]

Product Info:http://gmstar.com/psp/persona.html
The official site isn't up yet, but gmstar has as usual let the cat out of the bag in terms of what to expect from this release:

- All the original FMVs will be remade by Kamikaze Douga, and there will be many brand new FMVs as well to enhance the storytelling.

- Shoji Meguro will be arranging all the original BGM and the vocal tracks will feature Yumi Kawamura, the vocalist for the Persona 3 tracks.

- The interface has been fully revamped to take advantage of the full widescreen view for the benefit of all users.

- Both the original scenario and the Snow Queen scenario will contain additional dungeon floors not found in the original. The new dungeon elements will also contain tricky puzzles and extra content for the player to unravel.

- The game has been fully rebalanced to enhance the playing experience from the original version. The encounter rate and dungeon designs have been tweaked as well. There will also be multiple difficulty settings to more player choice.

- Battle animations can now be skipped entirely, and the battle load times have been decreased to 2/3 the rate of the original game.

- There will be many more save points available throughout the game, and for portable fans the game will also feature a quicksave feature.

- A beautiful 2D town map has been created for the game to bring it up to the standard of the rest of the series.

Not sure if it was posted yet. A couple of them were new to me.

[Emilio Morales]

Thanks for the info Pibbman! I'm really looking forward to this one, let's hope it comes intact to North America.

[Kakizaki]

^Emilio, have you been up to the suggestion area? Check out the PSP thread. ;)

[Manic Expressive]

After seeing that trailer there is no doubt in my mind it's coming. The J-Pop is just a dead giveaway, the newer fans will eat that #### up.

[Kakizaki]

^If that was inserted to attract them, and it gets localized because of it, that is a small concession I am willing to make. ;)


As long as the rearranged tracks don't get too crazy.... :P

[Sseklebeast]

Kaki are you saying you do not want to 'Burn your dread' Persona 1 style? o;

*cackle*

[EvilHero]

- There will be many more save points available throughout the game, and for portable fans the game will also feature a quicksave feature.


Oh thank god. Next to the SQQ, I wanted this more than anything.

[urmean15]

Now I'm wishing I had a PSP.

[Enzo_Kensei]

Uhmm. I have a question regarding the graphics of the remake. Is it gonna be like the PS1? Judging by the early Japanese trailer, i think only the cut scenes are cell shaded but the battles aren't or am I just misunderstanding it.

[Tatsuya]

Uhmm. I have a question regarding the graphics of the remake. Is it gonna be like the PS1? Judging by the early Japanese trailer, i think only the cut scenes are cell shaded but the battles aren't or am I just misunderstanding it.

From my understanding the graphics will be cleaned up but the same, though in the sprite based areas i'd say that's a good thing.

[Emilio Morales]

^Emilio, have you been up to the suggestion area? Check out the PSP thread. ;)

I already did, Kaki ;)

[Enzo_Kensei]

Uhmm. I have a question regarding the graphics of the remake. Is it gonna be like the PS1? Judging by the early Japanese trailer, i think only the cut scenes are cell shaded but the battles aren't or am I just misunderstanding it.

From my understanding the graphics will be cleaned up but the same, though in the sprite based areas i'd say that's a good thing.

Oh I see. So, its like what they did with the P3 graphics to P4. Not new only cleaned up.

What do you mean by sprite areas by the way?

[EvilHero]

^ The cell shaded cut scenes are completley new and will be replacing the cut scenes from the original.

And I believe when he says sprite areas, he's referring to the character sprites that you see during the exploration and combat modes of the game.

[Tatsuya]

^ The cell shaded cut scenes are completley new and will be replacing the cut scenes from the original.

And I believe when he says sprite areas, he's referring to the character sprites that you see during the exploration and combat modes of the game.

Correct, imo those were some of the best on the ps1, better than P2's even.

[EvilHero]

^ I thought so too. The animation was much better too IMO (character's hair and clothes would blow when they summoned a persona for example.) I was a bit disappointed when I first played Persona 2 after finishing 1.

[SlyStrife]

^
Not only that, I thought the persona animations were much smoother than in Persona 2. That's kinda what distracted me from the slow game play, not that I really minded it much in the first place. ^_^

[mymerrilymemory]

^ I think it's more because of all the animation they tried to pack into the P2 battle scenes- like when doing a huge fusion spell the game will lag down massively because of all the effects :1

[Kakizaki]

^I would have to respectfully disagree. Fusions in P2 were cool, but overall, ES and IS have far fewer crazy spell animations than did MIP. Not to mention I have only ever witnessed the unprompted Persona special attacks in MIP once in 300 hours worth of game play time. I have no idea how many there might be.

[SuburbanHell]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172299

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release?

Please, please, please Atlus, for the love of god, localize this game and bring it to us.

I need a reason to actually use my PSP.

Edit: Hoping they'll re-translate using the original japanese characters and dungeons, I want to finally see the Snow Queen quest and Not Mark...who's actual name escapes me at the moment...on an English version of the game.

...Course if you wanted to create a full blown PS3 version of Revelations remade, I wouldn't object to that either. :D

At least something till P5 comes out :tongue:

[Tatsuya]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172299

if it happens, will Atlus USA pick it up for a NA Release?

Please, please, please Atlus, for the love of god, localize this game and bring it to us.

I need a reason to actually use my PSP.

Edit: Hoping they'll re-translate using the original japanese characters and dungeons, I want to finally see the Snow Queen quest and Not Mark...who's actual name escapes me at the moment...on an English version of the game.

...Course if you wanted to create a full blown PS3 version of Revelations remade, I wouldn't object to that either. :D

At least something till P5 comes out :tongue:

Mark=masao.

Anyway as for my view, i'd love for this game to come over as is, i don't need swag or anything for this game (not that i needed it for any atlus game, but i love it all the same ^_^), just a full translation would be great.

[SuburbanHell]

Mark=masao.

Anyway as for my view, i'd love for this game to come over as is, i don't need swag or anything for this game (not that i needed it for any atlus game, but i love it all the same ^_^), just a full translation would be great.

Thanks, I totally had forgotten his name.

I agree with you, swag would be a bonus of course, but I would be just as happy to have a full playable version of the game, I fell in love with the Persona series in 1996 and have tried to get my hands on all things Persona since. Hopefully a remake of Revelations means that we'll get to see Innocent Sin come to us someday, too.

[SlyStrife]

^ I think it's more because of all the animation they tried to pack into the P2 battle scenes- like when doing a huge fusion spell the game will lag down massively because of all the effects :1

Yeah, the lag was pretty noticeable, more so in EP I think since the spells were better animated in that game... but it wasn't bad to the point where I was gritting my teeth.

Not to mention I have only ever witnessed the unprompted Persona special attacks in MIP once in 300 hours worth of game play time. I have no idea how many there might be.

The only special ability I ever got to see was Leviathan's... I think it was some uber awesome attack that did a lot of damage when the user was at low health.

[Kakizaki]

^Funny. The only special attack I saw was also from Leviathan.

[Tom]

"Mark = Masao"

Actually, Masao Inaba's nickname is actually Mark in the Japanese version, believe it or not! :)

On a similar note: Hidehiko Uesugi, who was called "Brad" in the original English translation... is nicknamed "Brown" in Japan.

[SlyStrife]

O_o

It's Tom! Good to see you here my friend! ^_^

I'm pretty sure the official guide book lists all those special abilities. I have to flip through it again when I get the chance, I'm quite curious as to what some of the others are like.

[Hamel]

"Mark = Masao"

Actually, Masao Inaba's nickname is actually Mark in the Japanese version, believe it or not! :)

On a similar note: Hidehiko Uesugi, who was called "Brad" in the original English translation... is nicknamed "Brown" in Japan.

That explains why I saw a picture with the name マーク

[Saburo Hikari]

I'm quite sure Atlus will do a localization, and a great localization at that. They have translated every SMT game so far, no? Look at P3 FES.

[Hamel]

I'm quite sure Atlus will do a localization, and a great localization at that. They have translated every SMT game so far, no? Look at P3 FES.

No they haven't

[Saburo Hikari]

Sorry, I forgot some games like Devil Children. But in any case, I'm confident that a localization will happen.

[Hamel]

Sorry, I forgot some games like Devil Children. But in any case, I'm confident that a localization will happen.

What?we don't care about Devil Children
We want the first two Devil Summoners