PDA

View Full Version : Persona Remake for PSP info


Pages : 1 [2]

Tom
02-09-2009, 12:49 PM
I care about Devil Children. :very_sad:

I've completed fan-translations of Black Book and Ice Book, but both have not been fully hacked. I've also done direct-to-text translations of every release aside from Messiah Riser (but I've beaten Messiah Riser). I think it's unfortunate that the only games which were translated were Light/Dark, which are by far the worst games in the series...

I think that if people had played Black/Red/White Books, you'd have a lot more Devil Children fans. The hacker working on Black Book is showing some preliminary pictures from the Black Book translation:

http://picasaweb.google.com/tauwasser/ShinMegamitTenseiDevilChildrenBlackBook#

BRASSKNUCKLES
02-09-2009, 02:55 PM
I have actually done some research on this game and it actually looks pretty good and its coming out soon and Cheap(time for me to get a PSP:))

SlyStrife
02-09-2009, 04:35 PM
"Mark = Masao"

Actually, Masao Inaba's nickname is actually Mark in the Japanese version, believe it or not! :)

On a similar note: Hidehiko Uesugi, who was called "Brad" in the original English translation... is nicknamed "Brown" in Japan.

Wasn't Eriko's nickname Elly in the Japanese version if I remember correctly? If so then Ellen actually isn't that bad of a change. :P

Gemini
02-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Wasn't Eriko's nickname Elly in the Japanese version if I remember correctly? If so then Ellen actually isn't that bad of a change. :P
Thou stand correct. ;0

DevilRy
02-09-2009, 09:22 PM
From this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/STR1389-0001.jpg to this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/STR1405-0001.jpg to this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/faggymain.jpg

Now it's Atlus Japan's turn to butcher the hell out of the art for this game. WTF, Atlus?!?!? What was wrong with the original game art? If you're going to redo it, AT LEAST make sure it looks better than the original. No wonder Kaneko doesn't do anything for them anymore.

And why *add* CG-cut scenes instead of just cleaning up the ones that were already in the game (like Philemon's hip-defying, rotating waist)?

Adding J-Pop to the game is practically criminal. I mean I thought the whole original point of the series was that it *WASN'T* some chinsey, stereotypical anime...

The more and more I read about this remake, the more and more I feel totally alienated from the Persona I grew to love. :(

unknown
02-09-2009, 09:45 PM
They're still using the P1 character portraits, the only things that were redone and added were the Cel-shaded CG cutscenes. And I think the character art above is just showing the models off.

Mary looks alright though in the CG scenes...for some reason P1 MC looks kind of strange.

As long as they don't go crazy with the J-pop and insert it everywhere in the game, I don't think adding a new intro with the song makes it a chinsey, stereotypical anime =\

DevilRy
02-09-2009, 10:13 PM
^
Nah, they re-did all the character art to fit in with the style of the new CG cut scenes. And, from what I've read so far on Japanese BBS's and news blogs, the entire soundtrack is getting a full Meguro overhaul.

The storyline was always pretty stereotypical of Japanese anime and HS dramas, but it never *looked* like it was. Now it looks and sounds and basically IS your typical, modern Japanese anime.

Sigh...

:(:(:(:(

unknown
02-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Damn

I just took a closer look at the scans and I think you're right about the character art being redone.

I wish Kaneko redid the designs in his Nocturne/DDS/P2 style and had Soejima do the in game portraits again.

Tom
02-09-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm with Devilry on this one... Many of these "upgrades" seem more like downgrades to me... The music on the official website is even worse than the music in the trailer. See for yourself...

http://persona.atlusnet.jp/

This is Persona?

The music is one of the biggest draws to Persona... Using this Persona 3 style music isn't going to make Persona 3 fans like Persona 1... They'll still hate the dated battle system... It's just going to alienate the old fans who (used to) like it.

The main character looks like even more of a wuss than he did in the American version now... The music blows, the changes are miniscule... It's a shame, really. I had my hopes up.

Hamel
02-09-2009, 11:06 PM
I really like the music
but I guess that's just me huh?

Kakizaki
02-10-2009, 12:51 AM
From this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/STR1389-0001.jpg to this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/STR1405-0001.jpg to this: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/avatars/faggymain.jpg

Now it's Atlus Japan's turn to butcher the hell out of the art for this game. WTF, Atlus?!?!? What was wrong with the original game art? If you're going to redo it, AT LEAST make sure it looks better than the original. No wonder Kaneko doesn't do anything for them anymore.

And why *add* CG-cut scenes instead of just cleaning up the ones that were already in the game (like Philemon's hip-defying, rotating waist)?

Adding J-Pop to the game is practically criminal. I mean I thought the whole original point of the series was that it *WASN'T* some chinsey, stereotypical anime...

The more and more I read about this remake, the more and more I feel totally alienated from the Persona I grew to love. :(

I understand some of these concerns and I'm right there with you but take a look at this:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1221836_1407.html

Notice how the original character art is still in place in the dialog boxes and battle status?

That still doesn't remedy my fears about the music though...

Gemini
02-10-2009, 03:23 AM
I wish Kaneko redid the designs in his Nocturne/DDS/P2 style and had Soejima do the in game portraits again.
Considering the results in IS and EP, god I wish they did the same here too. What the hell is wrong with them? That revamped Naoya design sucks so much it's totally embarrassing.

/me facepalms in despair

Sei
02-10-2009, 07:31 AM
I really like the music
but I guess that's just me huh?

I have no problems with the new music either as long as they don't mess with the pharmacy theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs3BY-K8e4w&feature=related) or the Velvet room theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSbgrxp_uo&feature=related) I'd love those in a soundtrack :D

I agree with the cg stuff now being not so pretty, I wish they would get better animation if they are going to go for that.

Oh well, still day one. I like the hard difficulty option!

I think as Devilry said, this series has always been about generic Japanese anime style high school drama but just didn't look like it. Here is the anime trailer for Eternal Punishment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Gk-onicEc&NR=1 So I really don't think the anime thing is either a change or something that came from nowhere.I have no problems with their changes though, and I don't think they are really comparable with what Atlus USA did. I hope they remake 2 as well, I'd day one that too.

Then again, P2 already looks pretty good, so maybe there is no need. But then I would really like hard difficulty options in all of them :)

Emilio Morales
02-10-2009, 09:08 AM
I'm also pissed off that Kaneko isn't re-doing the characters design or whatever, it seem that he's not working on any title as the main designer (like he use to be in Persona 2, for example), they're just using his demons designs.

Anyway, they mention something like "A beautiful 2D town map has been created for the game to bring it up to the standard of the rest of the series." Do they want to make the P3/P4 music style the "standard" for all the series, you know the whole thing of the J-pop (I don't mind 'cause I like that style though).

Inzaghi
02-10-2009, 09:19 AM
No wonder Kaneko doesn't do anything for them anymore.

I'm also pissed off that Kaneko isn't re-doing the characters design or whatever, it seem that he's not working on any title as the main designer (like he use to be in Persona 2, for example), they're just using his demons designs.

I don't understand this. You do realize he designed new demons and the entire cast for Raidou 2, right? That's all Kaneko art.

Anyway, they mention something like "A beautiful 2D town map has been created for the game to bring it up to the standard of the rest of the series." Do they want to make the P3/P4 music style the "standard" for all the series, you know the whole thing of the J-pop (I don't mind 'cause I like that style though).

In this particular case, I think they mean that pretty much every post-P1 game has a nicer-looking map than P1's Super FX Chip thing. Making it look like P2 or Nocturne or Raidou is probably what they're talking about.

Emilio Morales
02-10-2009, 09:28 AM
No wonder Kaneko doesn't do anything for them anymore.

I'm also pissed off that Kaneko isn't re-doing the characters design or whatever, it seem that he's not working on any title as the main designer (like he use to be in Persona 2, for example), they're just using his demons designs.

I don't understand this. You do realize he designed new demons and the entire cast for Raidou 2, right? That's all Kaneko art.

Yeah, even on the Devil Survivor there are new demons. But I would want to see Kaneko's character's designs for the Persona series, since the Persona series was the first thing I saw related to Megaten and to Kaneko's work, I totally felt for those awesome characters and when I heard about the designs of Persona 3 I was like O_O. And that Raidou design doesn't look as the first one O_O

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 09:34 AM
I am just hoping there is an option to use black Mark's portrait and pixel art if there is a NA version this remake/port. White Mark is an abomination. In the new animated scenes he looks like some kind of monkey thing rather than a human. :frown:

I don't even remember what the music from Persona sounded like aside from a few tracks, so I guess it wasn't that great. I for one am looking forward to hearing the new tracks.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 01:49 PM
I am just hoping there is an option to use black Mark's portrait and pixel art if there is a NA version this remake/port. JAPANESE Mark is an abomination.

Fixed.

In the new animated scenes he looks like some kind of monkey thing rather than a human. :frown:

They all look like monkey-people, with those big heads and stick bodies.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 01:59 PM
I don't understand this. You do realize he designed new demons and the entire cast for Raidou 2, right? That's all Kaneko art.

I don't think he did the character art, maybe the demons, but from what I've seen a lot of them have been in previous SMTs and DSs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/phantomlimbs/raidou2.jpg

I mean, it's either an imitator or he's seriously lost his touch. Either way: :(:(:(:(:(:(:

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 02:03 PM
I'm with Devilry on this one... Many of these "upgrades" seem more like downgrades to me... The music on the official website is even worse than the music in the trailer. See for yourself...

http://persona.atlusnet.jp/

This is Persona?

The music is one of the biggest draws to Persona... Using this Persona 3 style music isn't going to make Persona 3 fans like Persona 1... They'll still hate the dated battle system... It's just going to alienate the old fans who (used to) like it.

The main character looks like even more of a wuss than he did in the American version now... The music blows, the changes are miniscule... It's a shame, really. I had my hopes up.

^
Also, this.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 02:14 PM
I am just hoping there is an option to use black Mark's portrait and pixel art if there is a NA version this remake/port. JAPANESE Mark is an abomination.

Fixed.

I was just referring to the apparent color of Mark's skin, not his ethnicity. But awesome if that makes you feel better. :tongue:

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 02:22 PM
I am just hoping there is an option to use black Mark's portrait and pixel art if there is a NA version this remake/port. JAPANESE Mark is an abomination.

Fixed.

I was just referring to the apparent color of Mark's skin, not his ethnicity. But awesome if that makes you feel better. :tongue:

Doesn't make me feel better, he's just pointedly not Caucasian. None of the characters are.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 02:35 PM
So what about the character design other than his school outfit makes him look "pointedly not Caucasian?"

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff23/Funkygish/090206persona3_masao400.jpg

His skin tone looks Caucasian enough to me.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 02:44 PM
Well, his skin tone is a burnt umber rather than a raw umber. He definitely doesn't look like a white guy.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 02:59 PM
^ Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that there is no way you would think that that illustration of Mark (which is an illustration from the psp remake/port) looks like a white guy? Or maybe it just doesn't exist because you don't like it?

This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

Inzaghi
02-10-2009, 03:07 PM
This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

This being the same guy claiming an impostor drew the character designs for Raidou 2 so that his belief that Kaneko refuses to have anything to do with the series anymore can be upheld, I can't say I'm surprised.

Sseklebeast
02-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Rofl - This is pretty funny. :P

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 03:32 PM
^What server did you play EQ on Sseklebeast?

This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

This being the same guy claiming an impostor drew the character designs for Raidou 2 so that his belief that Kaneko refuses to have anything to do with the series anymore can be upheld, I can't say I'm surprised.
Yeah, I did a double take when I read that but it didn't really register at the time. I mean, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't know who did the character designs on the game that you are localizing. I guess there is always the possibility that you were being deceived.

Spectralpulse
02-10-2009, 03:38 PM
I just noticed a video over at Joystiq
I hope all they do is translate to english direct from the JP version if the do bring it over. Persona was the first game i bought for my PS1, I sold it along time ago and missed it since.

http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/aa9f6a35

Sseklebeast
02-10-2009, 03:51 PM
^What server did you play EQ on Sseklebeast?

I started on Torvonnilous back in 2000 when Kunark was first released. It was my main server for years but I transferred to The Tribunal for a few months back in 2007 and then transferred to Povar ( was a bad choice for me ) . I ended up back on Torvonnilous ( well Fennin Ro now due to the mergers ) and retired at lvl 80. My main was an Iksar Beastlord and I can say that SoD kind of killed the game for me. It was a good run while it lasted though!

What server were you on?

James Fiend
02-10-2009, 04:54 PM
So what about the character design other than his school outfit makes him look "pointedly not Caucasian?"

His hat. (Don't get angry, I'm being facetious!)

Sei
02-10-2009, 05:00 PM
I like the original "Mark". He looks fairly quirky/interesting. The black mark always felt out of place to me, even before I knew that he really well, was out of place.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 05:22 PM
^I will give you quirky. Autistic or mentally handicapped is another description that I would use for Mark's original design.

^What server did you play EQ on Sseklebeast?

I started on Torvonnilous back in 2000 when Kunark was first released. It was my main server for years but I transferred to The Tribunal for a few months back in 2007 and then transferred to Povar ( was a bad choice for me ) . I ended up back on Torvonnilous ( well Fennin Ro now due to the mergers ) and retired at lvl 80. My main was an Iksar Beastlord and I can say that SoD kind of killed the game for me. It was a good run while it lasted though!

What server were you on?I played for about 5 or 6 years on the Tribunal server, but I had already quit by 2007. I think there was someone in my guild with a very similar name though, so that I why I asked.

His hat. (Don't get angry, I'm being facetious!) Angerrr Rising!

Sseklebeast
02-10-2009, 06:34 PM
^Ahh gotcha :)

BTW back on topic : Personally I think the PSP version looks fine as far as character art and CGI are concerned. As for the music, well I'd like to hear more before I can make an opinion on it.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 07:21 PM
^ Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that there is no way you would think that that illustration of Mark (which is an illustration from the psp remake/port) looks like a white guy? Or maybe it just doesn't exist because you don't like it?

This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

He looks like a mid 90s Japanese teenager. Are you retarded? Why do you have to be so hostile because I don't think he looks white? Is my opinion seriously that irksome to you? Seriously, maybe you should cut down on the caffeine intake. :o

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 07:36 PM
This being the same guy claiming an impostor drew the character designs for Raidou 2 so that his belief that Kaneko refuses to have anything to do with the series anymore can be upheld, I can't say I'm surprised.

Yikes, well, his Japanese wikipedia page doesn't credit him for Raidou 2, so whatevs. If it is him, he's definitely lost his touch.

Inzaghi
02-10-2009, 07:40 PM
This being the same guy claiming an impostor drew the character designs for Raidou 2 so that his belief that Kaneko refuses to have anything to do with the series anymore can be upheld, I can't say I'm surprised.

Yikes, well, his Japanese wikipedia page doesn't credit him for Raidou 2, so whatevs. If it is him, he's definitely lost his touch.

You know what does credit him for Raidou 2? The opening movie of the game. But yeah, Wikipedia is probably a more reliable source here.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 07:49 PM
This being the same guy claiming an impostor drew the character designs for Raidou 2 so that his belief that Kaneko refuses to have anything to do with the series anymore can be upheld, I can't say I'm surprised.

Yikes, well, his Japanese wikipedia page doesn't credit him for Raidou 2, so whatevs. If it is him, he's definitely lost his touch.

You know what does credit him for Raidou 2? The opening movie of the game. But yeah, Wikipedia is probably a more reliable source here.

He did originally *DESIGN* the characters, that doesn't mean he actually illustrated the concept art or what they ended up using as assets.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 08:01 PM
^ Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that there is no way you would think that that illustration of Mark (which is an illustration from the psp remake/port) looks like a white guy? Or maybe it just doesn't exist because you don't like it?

This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

He looks like a mid 90s Japanese teenager. Are you retarded? Why do you have to be so hostile because I don't think he looks white? Is my opinion seriously that irksome to you? Seriously, maybe you should cut down on the caffeine intake. :o
God, you are lame. I am retarded. Cut down on the caffine? Why don't you back your claims up with something substantial rather than pulling stuff out of your ass.

Now I am going to go cry because of all of your insults and whatnot. :very_sad:

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 08:14 PM
^ Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that there is no way you would think that that illustration of Mark (which is an illustration from the psp remake/port) looks like a white guy? Or maybe it just doesn't exist because you don't like it?

This must be some really serious stuff for you to be bull####ting so hard.

He looks like a mid 90s Japanese teenager. Are you retarded? Why do you have to be so hostile because I don't think he looks white? Is my opinion seriously that irksome to you? Seriously, maybe you should cut down on the caffeine intake. :o
God, you are lame. I am retarded. Cut down on the caffine? Why don't you back your claims up with something substantial rather than pulling stuff out of your ass.

Now I am going to go cry because of all of your insults and whatnot. :very_sad:

All I said was A) Mark didn't look white and B) Kazuma Kaneko may have not done the character (keyword here, pay attention now) ART for Raidou 2, as evidenced by his lack of accredit on his Japanese wikipedia page.

As for statement A, I illustrate people for a living so I know a thing or two about skin tone. As for B, this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/phantomlimbs/raidou.jpg does not look like it was drawn by the same person as this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/phantomlimbs/raidou2.jpg

Deal with it or don't, but please don't cry. ;)

Hamel
02-10-2009, 08:20 PM
http://www.new-moon.tv/

Go to the character page and tell me it's not his style

Kakizaki
02-10-2009, 08:23 PM
^Guys can we both chill out a bit... Cool to disagree, but please dispense with the personal shots / junk. This isn't the Haven or the DDD. I don't want to see things tailspin.


edit - not directed at you Hamel.

Flußkönig
02-10-2009, 08:38 PM
If you say so, I am still not seeing the skin tone thing and I had no clue that Japanese teens in the 90's dressed like that, but if you are serious and just not trying to be a know it all dick then I guess I can accept that. :grouphug:

Okay, so I would like Atlus to include an option to choose black Mark's portrait and pixel art. Japanese Mark is an abomination. I would hate to have to play the game looking at something like that.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 08:45 PM
http://www.new-moon.tv/

Go to the character page and tell me it's not his style

I've been to the official website before, trust me. Gotou is a bit iffy, but the rest are definitely Kaneko, but that wasn't my point. Kaneko's art is just not being used as the assets I've been seeing shuffled around for this game, is alls I'm sayin'.

DevilRy
02-10-2009, 08:51 PM
If you say so, I am still not seeing the skin tone thing and I had no clue that Japanese teens in the 90's dressed like that, but if you are serious and just not trying to be a know it all dick then I guess I can accept that. :grouphug:

D'aawww... :tongue: You should check out Japanese magazines like Kyuti and such. Japanese teens *still* dress like that. D:

Okay, so I would like Atlus to include an option to choose black Mark's portrait and pixel art. Japanese Mark is an abomination. I would hate to have to play the game looking at something like that.

I have to admit that would be kind of cool. :agree:

Saburo Hikari
02-11-2009, 01:35 AM
*Compares the two Marks* Yep, Black Mark looks much better. And turning him to a White/Japanese guy seems pretty insulting if you ask me.

Hamel
02-11-2009, 02:27 AM
*Compares the two Marks* Yep, Black Mark looks much better. And turning him to a White/Japanese guy seems pretty insulting if you ask me.

...huh?
Mark is Japanese ATLUS USA changed it

xeno
02-11-2009, 02:41 AM
I too hope they translate P1 on PSP, and IMO, the changes shouldn't matter as much, I'll be glad for being able to get it rather then not, should it get released in the US.

Also, I found this change log on QJ.net, and I thought it was interesting, I looked through this topic and didn't see it, so here it is.
http://www.qj.net/Laying-down-the-cards-the-Persona-PSP-changelog/pg/49/aid/128777

syl
02-17-2009, 07:24 AM
Not to sound ungrateful, but it would be nice if Atlus double-dipped with the Persona 1 remake and ported it to the PS2 six months later!

xeno
02-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Here's some more info on the PSP persona 1.
http://www.qj.net/Persona-character-trailers-site-now-up-Special-Edition-info/pg/49/aid/128945

Sounds cool IMO :)

Kenji
02-17-2009, 07:34 PM
Looks good to me. :)

I also can't help but notice Maki's beauty mark is gone... at least, I think she had one...

I like the in-game music, too. What about the old school fans? How different are these BGMs from the originals?

anbu
02-17-2009, 09:27 PM
i was hoping they would get rid of the first person view inside the dungeon. arrrgh!
why dont they just say its an enhanced port... this is not a remake. the more i see the videos the more it is just an enhanced remake. i wish they could completely remade this game like ff4 on the ds. but to late now... i wonder if new fans that have played p3/4 will be disapponted when they play this game. hehehehehe.

if you have an option to pick only one, which one will you get this game or devil survivor for the ds??? this question is for those ppl who played the original revelations: persona on the ps1.

ufofreek
02-17-2009, 11:58 PM
persona remake is happening by the end of this year xd

Dave3
02-18-2009, 11:26 AM
Some videos on Siliconera: http://www.siliconera.com/2009/02/18/watch-some-psp-persona-movies/

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-18-2009, 12:03 PM
i was hoping they would get rid of the first person view inside the dungeon. arrrgh!
why dont they just say its an enhanced port... this is not a remake. the more i see the videos the more it is just an enhanced remake. i wish they could completely remade this game like ff4 on the ds. but to late now... i wonder if new fans that have played p3/4 will be disapponted when they play this game. hehehehehe.

if you have an option to pick only one, which one will you get this game or devil survivor for the ds??? this question is for those ppl who played the original revelations: persona on the ps1.

ya know something i loved atlus after i had played p3 i didn't play p1 and p2 but i have faith in atlus that's why i know i won't be dissapointed even after seeing the videos which included some clips from the game the graphics weren't as i excpected but i'm more than sure that the gameplay the cutscenes the story are all awesome :)

anbu
02-19-2009, 10:11 AM
i still love perosna 1 but i dont like to play it anymore...maybe. i hate how you recruit those demons, by convincing them...but i can tolerate it a little bit.

i just wished that they overhaul the game sprites or the character design to look more like p3/4... this game is really alot different than any persona game.

i wish they made it look more like persona 2... that one is much bettter. i just saw some new vids on youtube, and it disappoint me more and more. but lets see... im probably wrong...i hope.

no matter what i did (played it the 2nd time), i was never able to force myself to finish the first one, and those were the times i was hungry for rpg. lol. it was that bad for me.

Hitoshura9999
02-19-2009, 10:49 AM
We need more SMT games, not only persona, and it doesnt have to be for PSP, atlus can do reprints

Emilio Morales
02-19-2009, 12:36 PM
Those cut scenes look very cool! But it would be cooler if they have voice acting, but in the end probably is for the best to be mute :p

DevilRy
02-19-2009, 12:58 PM
I also can't help but notice Maki's beauty mark is gone... at least, I think she had one...

That's weird...? Her "mother's mark" is sort of a minor plot device with Chisato in the Karma Palace.

I like the in-game music, too. What about the old school fans? How different are these BGMs from the originals?

They sound a lot like the "Hyper Rearrange," remix stuff that Meguro did for other R&D 1 games in the late 90s. I guess they're not quite the horrible I was expecting. They're a lot more up-tempo than the originals though which where generally pretty ambient.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-19-2009, 01:04 PM
i still love perosna 1 but i dont like to play it anymore...maybe. i hate how you recruit those demons, by convincing them...but i can tolerate it a little bit.

i just wished that they overhaul the game sprites or the character design to look more like p3/4... this game is really alot different than any persona game.

i wish they made it look more like persona 2... that one is much bettter. i just saw some new vids on youtube, and it disappoint me more and more. but lets see... im probably wrong...i hope.

no matter what i did (played it the 2nd time), i was never able to force myself to finish the first one, and those were the times i was hungry for rpg. lol. it was that bad for me.

yeah i would agree about making the graphics like the ones in p3 and p4 they were great so i would about the dungeon crawling but still i haven't tried it yet so i can't decide now not until i play it

Flußkönig
02-19-2009, 01:45 PM
I love how some of you guys want to cut out pretty much everything that people like about the first Persona game. I think you might have had a point if this was a port of a snes game or something, but given the facts you might as well just be saying that you really don't want Persona, just Persona 5.

DevilRy
02-19-2009, 02:01 PM
I love how some of you guys want to cut out pretty much everything that people like about the first Persona game. I think you might have had a point if this was a port of a snes game or something, but given the facts you might as well just be saying that you really don't want Persona, just Persona 5.
^
:agree:

Kakizaki
02-19-2009, 03:17 PM
They're a lot more up-tempo than the originals though which where generally pretty ambient.Probably the best way of describing it. It is a little too up tempo for me at this point, but definitely not a deal breaker for me interest wise.

I love how some of you guys want to cut out pretty much everything that people like about the first Persona game. I think you might have had a point if this was a port of a snes game or something, but given the facts you might as well just be saying that you really don't want Persona, just Persona 5.No doubt. This is really getting on my nerves. I think of lot of people new to SMT or Persona tend to forget that there were quite a few of us around prior to P3/P4, and that some of us actually liked the way the old games were.

This was always my largest fear about a new or expanding fan base. I know this attitude isn't necessarily representative of new fans as a whole, but it still gets to me.

Azriel Crusnik
02-19-2009, 03:34 PM
I have never played the original game's so I can't say I will be disappointed if the re-make doesn't come to the US. (though I wouldn't playing the game)

anbu
02-19-2009, 09:28 PM
so this is where the bias opinions of cult fans come in huh?!. lol.

anyways,

the story (and the atmosphere of the game) was good in the revelations: persona on the ps1 but the gameplay was different. for me it was bad. lol. it reminds me of hoshigami. nice art style and all but bad gameplay. but atleast persona 1 has a better gameplay of the 2.

lets just hope it comes out good and doesnt disappoint alot of fans, with this enhance port.

persona 1 made me think twice of getting digital devil saga 1 and 2, nocturne, devil summoner... but persona 3/4 thats a different story, since i always like the theme of the persona series of (highschool) students summoning demons and the setting is present time and not those in medieval fantasy...

but the games of the smt series and its spin-offs have really improved alot now... its more forgiving in terms of gameplay... even i was surprise with the gameplays of persona 3/4, nocturne, digital devil saga... but its to late before i realize it since some of those games are rare. lol. but first impressions do last~

im pretty sure alot of new gamers will react to the psp persona port once its release... they dont know how different the game is. hahahahaha.

but i still love the persona series, and its different theme and style no matter what. thats what sets it apart from other rpg games, really.

i always wanted square enix to make an rpg game that has a similar theme to persona series (this was before persona 3 came out)... highschool kids invovle in a fantasy adventure and the setting is in present time. im not sure about the world ends with you, since i havent played that one. lol.

Kakizaki
02-19-2009, 10:49 PM
so this is where the bias opinions of cult fans come in huh?!. lol.

What is that supposed to mean? As if your opinion isn't biased either?

Everything you mentioned previously was simply based on your opinion. You prefer the game play of the newer Persona titles. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way as you, but that doesn't negate the fact that there are a lot of us who actually prefer the older style titles.

Auragaea
02-20-2009, 07:22 AM
Well, I started with P3, yet I love P1 just as it is. The only thing I didn't like about P1 was the gameplay but just because it was too tedious. If anything, I really despise the simplicity of P3's and P4's battle system since it makes hitting an enemy's weakness the core of the gameplay.

slayn
02-20-2009, 07:30 AM
That reads very awkwardly. "I love everything about this game except the gameplay." It just sounds odd.

Crabman
02-20-2009, 12:43 PM
New trailers look pretty good. I was expecting a fully 3D game like P3/P4 (the initial screenshots weren't very clear), but it doesn't really matter. I'll play it anyways :)

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-20-2009, 12:53 PM
same here

Kakizaki
02-21-2009, 10:23 AM
^I'm not sure why some of you would even want Atlus to attempt an engine like that on PSP.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-21-2009, 10:25 AM
what's up with the psp anyway? it's a very good device for it's size

Kakizaki
02-21-2009, 10:33 AM
^That may be, but it still isn't as powerful as a PS2.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-21-2009, 10:56 AM
yeah i know but it's nearly the same

marto_motoko
02-21-2009, 11:14 AM
yeah i know but it's nearly the same

....You're joking, right? :bs: How in the living heck can you even state that?

As for the topic at hand, just give me Persona as Persona should be. I don't want Persona 5, I simply want the original redone, like it is.

After all, no offense to those whining about the way the game looks, but for us older fans of the series, this was our little treat, since we've been dry-heaving on Persona 3 and 4, which while they're good games, just lack the dark, brooding essence of the regular-line of MegaTen games. Persona, while one foot in the high-school train, still was a very dark game, with the ambiance in sound we'd grown to love, so for us, it worked great. Not only but the way you explored the dungeons in first person was something that to us (older fans) was a very appreciated sentimentality, since that's how the start of this series was.

Meguro's music for this so far doesn't really fit. Honestly, I'd rather they give you an option in the beginning of the game between Arrange music, and Original, like they do in 2-D fighting games.

Persona 3 and 4 are great, but there's a much, much darker universe of MegaTen out there than that. Some of you guys should give it a chance, rather than complaining that there's a lack of hippity-hop, and light-heartedness in your Persona soup. Take it for the ingredients it has to present on its own.

Kakizaki
02-21-2009, 11:30 AM
^Well put. I agree with pretty much everything you have said.

For a while, some of us that preferred the older style SMT and SMT related titles tended to act pretty curmudgeonly (especially myself) regarding the newer titles, and we occasionally took flak for that. It is pretty funny how the tables turn when a old style game is announced.

I sound like a broken record, but I think people tend to forget that there were fans of SMT in North America long before P3.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-21-2009, 11:54 AM
i get the point somehow and it's true i haven't played the older persona games but that doesn't mean i forgot about it i mean if i have a psx now i would buy them gladly

unknown
02-21-2009, 01:14 PM
^You do know that the PS2 is backwards compatible right? That and there are alternative means of playing the older SMT games now, including Persona 1, and both of the Persona 2 games.

Saburo Hikari
02-22-2009, 12:53 AM
yeah i know but it's nearly the same

....You're joking, right? :bs: How in the living heck can you even state that?

As for the topic at hand, just give me Persona as Persona should be. I don't want Persona 5, I simply want the original redone, like it is.

After all, no offense to those whining about the way the game looks, but for us older fans of the series, this was our little treat, since we've been dry-heaving on Persona 3 and 4, which while they're good games, just lack the dark, brooding essence of the regular-line of MegaTen games. Persona, while one foot in the high-school train, still was a very dark game, with the ambiance in sound we'd grown to love, so for us, it worked great. Not only but the way you explored the dungeons in first person was something that to us (older fans) was a very appreciated sentimentality, since that's how the start of this series was.

Meguro's music for this so far doesn't really fit. Honestly, I'd rather they give you an option in the beginning of the game between Arrange music, and Original, like they do in 2-D fighting games.

Persona 3 and 4 are great, but there's a much, much darker universe of MegaTen out there than that. Some of you guys should give it a chance, rather than complaining that there's a lack of hippity-hop, and light-heartedness in your Persona soup. Take it for the ingredients it has to present on its own.Even though I prefer P3 and P4 and haven't played Persona 1/older SMT games, I still agree. Remake, but don't change too much.

P3 and P4 were made for a different audience (Which includes me.). I don't think it's a bad thing because I think they wanted to try something new (High school life sim/less dark theme). It does however become bad when fanboys/girls of P3 and P4 start saying the other SMT games are not as good.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-22-2009, 04:11 AM
yeah i know but it's nearly the same

....You're joking, right? :bs: How in the living heck can you even state that?

As for the topic at hand, just give me Persona as Persona should be. I don't want Persona 5, I simply want the original redone, like it is.

After all, no offense to those whining about the way the game looks, but for us older fans of the series, this was our little treat, since we've been dry-heaving on Persona 3 and 4, which while they're good games, just lack the dark, brooding essence of the regular-line of MegaTen games. Persona, while one foot in the high-school train, still was a very dark game, with the ambiance in sound we'd grown to love, so for us, it worked great. Not only but the way you explored the dungeons in first person was something that to us (older fans) was a very appreciated sentimentality, since that's how the start of this series was.

Meguro's music for this so far doesn't really fit. Honestly, I'd rather they give you an option in the beginning of the game between Arrange music, and Original, like they do in 2-D fighting games.

Persona 3 and 4 are great, but there's a much, much darker universe of MegaTen out there than that. Some of you guys should give it a chance, rather than complaining that there's a lack of hippity-hop, and light-heartedness in your Persona soup. Take it for the ingredients it has to present on its own.Even though I prefer P3 and P4 and haven't played Persona 1/older SMT games, I still agree. Remake, but don't change too much.

P3 and P4 were made for a different audience (Which includes me.). I don't think it's a bad thing because I think they wanted to try something new (High school life sim/less dark theme). It does however become bad when fanboys/girls of P3 and P4 start saying the other SMT games are not as good.

:agree:

Enzeru
02-22-2009, 12:55 PM
P3 and P4 were made for a different audience (Which includes me.). I don't think it's a bad thing because I think they wanted to try something new (High school life sim/less dark theme). It does however become bad when fanboys/girls of P3 and P4 start saying the other SMT games are not as good.
I disagree. I think that fans of the more traditional SMTs have reasons that they prefer them over the new Personas, just as the Persona 3/4 fans have reasons why they dislike the more traditional SMT style. They simply have preferences; no one game is nessacarily better than the other in all merits, as you're statement seems to imply.

Don't get me wrong, though; I came for the dating sim, and I stayed for the "hardcore" RPG.

Kakizaki
02-22-2009, 03:40 PM
^I think you are correct to a degree, but I also have a feeling that there are a great many P3/P4 fans that haven't even played the older titles they are making judgments on.

Chidori Boy Uchiha
02-23-2009, 03:57 AM
well i haven't played the older titles but i think they are pretty good

N1GH
02-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Please have option of keeping the old translation from US Persona 1 :]

jeffx
02-23-2009, 11:48 AM
^ Please don't. If that's what you really want, how about just sticking the original PSX Persona on your PSP?

Gemini
02-23-2009, 01:42 PM
Please have option of keeping the old translation from US Persona 1 :]
Thanks for your masochism. The whole Persona community sure will appreciate your message, and I'm also sure Atlus will follow your fabulous advice!

Tatsuya
02-23-2009, 08:28 PM
Please have option of keeping the old translation from US Persona 1 :]

please god no, it's not even comically bad like zero wing.

Shin
02-24-2009, 03:57 AM
Seriously, I'm pretty sure Atlus feels shame from the localization of Persona 1, its just BAD.
I mean they changed the race of one of the characters for crying out loud!

Ike.
02-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Seriously, I'm pretty sure Atlus feels shame from the localization of Persona 1, its just BAD.
I mean they changed the race of one of the characters for crying out loud!

They changed the races of all of the characters, except the one who was white to begin with. But then she wasn't white enough, so they made her blonde, I guess.

SlaughterX
02-24-2009, 12:49 PM
So I haven't read throught his huge thread yet, but did they say they were going to add in the content that was cut from the original PS release? I need to get rid of my PS copy of this game ASAP...

massaker
02-24-2009, 12:58 PM
Awesome!

Hopefully Square Enix will pick this up for European release, like P4. Otherwise I'm not sure if we'll see it. A reason to own a PSP finally, we get crap all on it here.

Anyone know if PSP's are region locked?

kelvinc
02-24-2009, 01:05 PM
PSP games aren't region locked (though the technology is there, because UMD movies were, back when those were still around). I've bought plenty of North American games for my HK PSP.

Luna
02-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Woohoo! Look where this thread is now!

~Edit
Can't wait for this game, it's going to be day one pre-order!

Kenji
02-24-2009, 04:22 PM
@ massaker: The DS, PSP, and PS3 aren't region-locked... one of the beauties of the modern age of gaming, in my book, because nothing's more irritating than Europe getting something that America doesn't, or vice-versa.

It certainly didn't help that the PAL-NTSC conversion is the most irritating goddamned thing on the face of the modding earth... if you knew how much money I'd spent trying to play the PAL Forbidden Siren 2, only to fail and rely on the NTSC-J version with an online video walkthrough... :mad:

iammako3
02-24-2009, 06:34 PM
^Well put. I agree with pretty much everything you have said.

For a while, some of us that preferred the older style SMT and SMT related titles tended to act pretty curmudgeonly (especially myself) regarding the newer titles, and we occasionally took flak for that. It is pretty funny how the tables turn when a old style game is announced.

I sound like a broken record, but I think people tend to forget that there were fans of SMT in North America long before P3.

I am glad you keep mentioning that *some* of you prefer the older style games as I'm one of the odd ones who started with Persona 1 but enjoy the newer games in the series over the old. I do kind of miss demon negotiation (even if it made me too lazy to do battles and I'd simply negotaite instead. . . which was fun, but sucked when boss time came around), but not enough to prefer the old to the new. (And I'm a *really* odd one in that the DDS games are so far my favorite SMT games!)

Despite that, I still love Persona, old or new, so this will be a DMF1 purchase for me!

FewtureMD
02-24-2009, 11:30 PM
I just hope we can access the "Snow Queen" story branch. And hey, if this does well enough, we could get a port of P2 with BOTH parts intact. :D

Enzo_Kensei
02-25-2009, 06:10 AM
So, got any new pictures for the new Persona game? Japanese pics of course. ^^

animeziggy
02-25-2009, 01:44 PM
:agree: Finally

Ghroth
02-25-2009, 03:37 PM
hey guys i was wondering how the s links worked in the first game i really loved persona 3 and 4 and my favorite thing was the slinks they were so emotional snd deep.

TheMagicHat
02-25-2009, 05:02 PM
S-links weren't in any of the Persona games before P3, far as I recall. So no making lovey-dovey with your favorite girl(s) this time. :p

Kakizaki
02-25-2009, 06:38 PM
As Magichat alreardy stated, there are no S-links.

Vincent Alexander
02-25-2009, 06:41 PM
And I'm a *really* odd one in that the DDS games are so far my favorite SMT games!
Nothing crazy about that. DDS1 is still my favorite SMT.

unsquared
02-25-2009, 10:06 PM
Nothing new, but I've been listening to this (http://persona.atlusnet.jp/) on repeat practically all day. ;;

Vincent Alexander
02-26-2009, 08:07 AM
I must be a loser, because the background on that site reminds me of Bleach.

iammako3
02-26-2009, 04:22 PM
I must be a loser, because the background on that site reminds me of Bleach.

Man, I feel pretty loserish too as I just played with the butterfly on that site for about 5 minutes straight.

Also, I can totally see how that background reminds you of Bleach.

Enzo_Kensei
02-28-2009, 08:32 PM
I must be a loser, because the background on that site reminds me of Bleach.

It reminds me of Bleach too. Not only because of the butterfly but also because of the moon effect. ^^

Lupinzero
03-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Well for the re-make im not ready...but my girlfriend has a PSP...:D

jj984jj
03-10-2009, 07:17 AM
Website updates:
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/sound.html
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/system/index.html

Tatsuya
03-10-2009, 11:34 AM
Website updates:
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/sound.html
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/system/index.html

that music in the battle scene...
I'm not really sure how i feel about that, though i will admit the random battle music in the original i didn't like, this sounds out of place a little.

The other one is alright, but it does feel different than the original.

Emilio Morales
03-10-2009, 11:45 AM
The more I hear about this game, the more excited I feel!! I can't wait for the US localization!

Tatsuya
03-10-2009, 11:48 AM
i'm not quite sure, but i think they simplified range in this game, i noticed masao a.k.a. mark was able to attack a middle row enemy, in the original i believe he didn't have the range to do that.

Kakizaki
03-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Website updates:
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/sound.html
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/system/index.html

that music in the battle scene...
I'm not really sure how i feel about that, though i will admit the random battle music in the original i didn't like, this sounds out of place a little.

The other one is alright, but it does feel different than the original.

I'm still uber excited for this title, but I am little let down by the direction the music continues to head in. I was hoping it wasn't going to be such a drastic overhaul. Oh well, you can't get everything you want.

The original soundtrack was just so memorable to me.

Vincent Alexander
03-10-2009, 05:43 PM
Website updates:
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/sound.html
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/system/index.html

that music in the battle scene...
I'm not really sure how i feel about that, though i will admit the random battle music in the original i didn't like, this sounds out of place a little.

The other one is alright, but it does feel different than the original.

I'm still uber excited for this title, but I am little let down by the direction the music continues to head in. I was hoping it wasn't going to be such a drastic overhaul. Oh well, you can't get everything you want.

The original soundtrack was just so memorable to me.
Agreed. The new music sounds fine by itself, but as replacement to the old stuff---not at all.

anbu
03-11-2009, 09:51 AM
new gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvdBv738xU&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

old gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgeMI2cNpaQ&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

Emilio Morales
03-11-2009, 10:49 AM
I'm glad that we can hear voices at the battles ^o^ but are we going to hear them in the localized version?

cj iwakura
03-11-2009, 10:50 AM
I hope the new music keeps the P1/P2 'loop' tradition(the track leads into a new melody at the end of every battle, regardless of what point it's at).

Rebochan
03-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Wow....these tracks are in a completely different style. It's more consistent with P3/4. They're still freaking amazing, but...I did download a rip of the original track since it was so highly praised and you can't even tell this is from the same game.

xeno
03-11-2009, 06:54 PM
I found some new video's on that same site...

http://www.qj.net/New-vids-for-Persona-PSP-show-off-battle-system-branching-storyline/pg/49/aid/129401
The main character's walking mannerisms remind me of Tatsuya Suou.

Emilio Morales
03-11-2009, 07:11 PM
^That's the same way he walks in MIP, so you can probably say that Tatsuya Suou's walking mannerism reminds you of the P1 MC. ;)

anbu
03-11-2009, 08:10 PM
im kinda sad that the sprites still looks the same with the sprites in persona 1 psx.

Soulhouf
03-13-2009, 02:56 AM
new gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvdBv738xU&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

old gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgeMI2cNpaQ&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

Okay Atlus, you gave me a reason to not buy the PSP version.
Why the battle theme has been changed for this ugly j-pop? :|
I also prefer the old interface.
The only thing that needed a change in battle is the game speed.

Sad :(

Tsuko
03-14-2009, 06:50 AM
....... its the full game unlike Last Time, I didnt like the battle system on the PS1 version because of the sound it makes when you choose commands is very irritating

Samarecarm
03-14-2009, 01:54 PM
new gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvdBv738xU&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

old gameplay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgeMI2cNpaQ&eurl=http://www.siliconera.com/2009/03/11/persona-battles-then-and-now/

Okay Atlus, you gave me a reason to not buy the PSP version.
Why the battle theme has been changed for this ugly j-pop? :|
I also prefer the old interface.
The only thing that needed a change in battle is the game speed.

Sad :(

Just because there's a woman singing in the background does not make it J-pop, does it? I didn't play the first game but from the samples there's still a gloomy sound to a few tracks, including the battle track which is decent; it sounds a little more serious than Persona 4's track. Either way if it hurts your ears then that's unfortunate.

Personally I really like to hear how Mr. Meguro is evolving. From Digital Devil Saga to Persona 4 to the remake for PSP, and keeping in mind the contexts of the particular games, I'm more than pleased with his work. We've only heard less than a tenth of this soundtrack.

EDIT:

In fact, for the people unsatisfied with Meguro's work so far, you should be thankful he's even Directing the damn game. Perhaps without him the project doesn't exist.

Kakizaki
03-14-2009, 02:19 PM
In fact, for the people unsatisfied with Meguro's work so far, you should be thankful he's even Directing the damn game. Perhaps without him the project doesn't exist.Easy there. You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but people could just as easily call you out for formulating an opinion regarding the soundtrack based on limited experience with the original. It's fine that people have differing opinions, but tone it down when you are simply speculating. The original soundtrack was held in pretty high regard by many. ;)

The samples provided at this point definitely do not sound as ambient as the original soundtrack (It is much more upbeat and pop-like. Maybe that is why people are comparing it to J-pop), but then again, there are only a limited few tracks currently available for preview from the reworked track.

Samarecarm
03-14-2009, 02:52 PM
In fact, for the people unsatisfied with Meguro's work so far, you should be thankful he's even Directing the damn game. Perhaps without him the project doesn't exist.Easy there. You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but people could just as easily call you out for formulating an opinion regarding the soundtrack based on limited experience with the original. It's fine that people have differing opinions, but tone it down when you are simply speculating. The original soundtrack was held in pretty high regard by many. ;)

The samples provided at this point definitely do not sound as ambient as the original soundtrack (It is much more upbeat and pop-like. Maybe that is why people are comparing it to J-pop), but then again, there are only a limited few tracks currently available for preview from the reworked track.

I apologize. As somebody who didn't experience the first game I shouldn't be so harsh, and I understand the soundtrack is a 180. But I'm taking it for what it's worth so far, specifically a game Directed my Shoji Meguro. Sorry for being so redundant with that fact, but I've said a few times that it really surprised me he's doing it because I only knew him as a composer. To know that he didn't even have a hand in the first game makes the remake even more interesting to me.

Tatsuya
03-15-2009, 12:17 AM
In fact, for the people unsatisfied with Meguro's work so far, you should be thankful he's even Directing the damn game. Perhaps without him the project doesn't exist.Easy there. You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but people could just as easily call you out for formulating an opinion regarding the soundtrack based on limited experience with the original. It's fine that people have differing opinions, but tone it down when you are simply speculating. The original soundtrack was held in pretty high regard by many. ;)

The samples provided at this point definitely do not sound as ambient as the original soundtrack (It is much more upbeat and pop-like. Maybe that is why people are comparing it to J-pop), but then again, there are only a limited few tracks currently available for preview from the reworked track.

I apologize. As somebody who didn't experience the first game I shouldn't be so harsh, and I understand the soundtrack is a 180. But I'm taking it for what it's worth so far, specifically a game Directed my Shoji Meguro. Sorry for being so redundant with that fact, but I've said a few times that it really surprised me he's doing it because I only knew him as a composer. To know that he didn't even have a hand in the first game makes the remake even more interesting to me.

Here's some music to compare with the new ones, the first one needs a good 10-20 sec to get good
Second map:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjefW3OV2ao
Battle:mid-boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d7Adchbmyk&feature=related
city 1 school revisited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdiN-Ta5nU&feature=related
Persona awakening battle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxPXm2uoCU&feature=related

Sei
03-15-2009, 11:01 AM
Hmm, I like the old battle music better. Oh well, I don't think the new one is that bad, but it certainly lacks the.. hmm, it's hard to explain. The old one felt more grave to me.

Samarecarm
03-15-2009, 12:23 PM
In fact, for the people unsatisfied with Meguro's work so far, you should be thankful he's even Directing the damn game. Perhaps without him the project doesn't exist.Easy there. You are definitely entitled to your opinion, but people could just as easily call you out for formulating an opinion regarding the soundtrack based on limited experience with the original. It's fine that people have differing opinions, but tone it down when you are simply speculating. The original soundtrack was held in pretty high regard by many. ;)

The samples provided at this point definitely do not sound as ambient as the original soundtrack (It is much more upbeat and pop-like. Maybe that is why people are comparing it to J-pop), but then again, there are only a limited few tracks currently available for preview from the reworked track.

I apologize. As somebody who didn't experience the first game I shouldn't be so harsh, and I understand the soundtrack is a 180. But I'm taking it for what it's worth so far, specifically a game Directed my Shoji Meguro. Sorry for being so redundant with that fact, but I've said a few times that it really surprised me he's doing it because I only knew him as a composer. To know that he didn't even have a hand in the first game makes the remake even more interesting to me.

Here's some music to compare with the new ones, the first one needs a good 10-20 sec to get good
Second map:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjefW3OV2ao
Battle:mid-boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d7Adchbmyk&feature=related
city 1 school revisited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAdiN-Ta5nU&feature=related
Persona awakening battle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxPXm2uoCU&feature=related

I enjoyed those very much (especially the world map theme) and more of what I could find on there. It's completely different. I probably would be satisfied with the soundtrack either way.

Inzaghi
03-23-2009, 01:41 PM
There's a new trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hluoWuMUmdw). A few new CG scenes are visible, as well as snippets of the new overworld map and some redesigned interface screens.

Kakizaki
03-23-2009, 04:09 PM
^Nice. You get a quick glimpse of the new maps - although I had no problems with the old ones. Any idea if there will still be random encounters on the new town maps?

unknown
03-23-2009, 05:37 PM
I'm pretty sure there will still be random encounters Kakizaki, it looks like they just changed the maps to make it easier to navigate IMO.

Kakizaki
03-23-2009, 06:22 PM
I just kind of thought the random encounters may be more difficult to implement due to how they functioned on the old map. If you remember, certain / different enemies would be encountered in different areas of the town map. With the distances between buildings seemingly reduced, I have to wonder how this would work. It isn't really a big deal at all, but I'm just curious.

Emilio Morales
03-23-2009, 09:40 PM
The whole game looks awesome!!! And the maps remind me a lot of Persona 2.

Rocket Science
03-25-2009, 01:02 AM
Yeah, the maps do remind me of P2. I recall reading somewhere that they don't have random encounters, and the similarity of maps between P2 and this seem to support that. I also have a sneaking suspicion that they'll use the same battle transition in P2 for this game...

Kenji
03-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Trailer looks good to me. I'm also particularly fond of the battle theme (since I've seen this theme played in combat, I assume it's the battle theme). Maybe I'd feel differently if I had played the original PSX release, but even then, I think the soundtrack shown so far has been of pretty high quality.

Tsuko
03-27-2009, 08:50 PM
It would be very cool if other SMT followed suit like this and get remakes

unknown
03-28-2009, 01:56 AM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Tsuko
03-28-2009, 09:47 AM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?

Kenji
03-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?
Can't speak for unknown, but Soul Hackers has the consistent claim of being a better game and/or less irritating than the original Devil Summoner.

That and it's cyberpunktastic?

Tsuko
03-28-2009, 12:53 PM
Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?
Can't speak for unknown, but Soul Hackers has the consistent claim of being a better game and/or less irritating than the original Devil Summoner.

That and it's cyberpunktastic?

i can understand that but would perfer the original so i could know what happens leading up to Soul Hackers

Kakizaki
03-28-2009, 06:01 PM
That and it's cyberpunktastic

So was Devil Summoner.

unknown
03-28-2009, 09:29 PM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?

Because of delicious Nemissa

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Tatsuya
03-29-2009, 08:27 PM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?

Because of delicious Nemissa

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Well that and soul hackers is definitely the better of the 2.

Tsuko
03-30-2009, 06:46 AM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?

Because of delicious Nemissa

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Well that and soul hackers is definitely the better of the 2.

I like the story for the First Devil Summoner then i do with Soul Hackers

Tatsuya
03-30-2009, 10:41 AM
I just need a Soul Hackers remake.

Soul Hackers??? but the original Devil Summoner never even made it over here, why do you want the sequel over the original one?

Because of delicious Nemissa

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Well that and soul hackers is definitely the better of the 2.

I like the story for the First Devil Summoner then i do with Soul Hackers
I like both's story(though soul hackers is better in story too imo), but it's not just story here, the battle system and interface are also better than the first devil summoner as well.

To be honest, considering this has a part in the shin megami tensei series it would be likely to sell well even with the first person view, but i guess persona will tell.

xeno
03-31-2009, 04:27 PM
My posting news is probably getting old, but for those who don't know, theres another video on P1 on PSP.

the video and some additional news is here:
http://www.qj.net/Persona-video-forming-and-saving-battle-formations/pg/49/aid/129928

vxicepickxv
04-11-2009, 12:01 AM
It's kind of amusing, I bought Persona 3 because I liked the original Persona. I bought Persona 2 because I liked Persona 3. I bought FES because I liked persona 3, and I bought Persona 4 so that I won't have to pay 100 dollars to play it in about 2 years.

I'm looking forward to this. Too bad nothing's up on the SCEA website yet.

reason1313
04-11-2009, 05:18 PM
I still have my copy of Persona 1, but i don't quite remember the translation being all that bad. However, i don't understand a word of japanese, so i'm not understanding if the complaint is in regards as to how much of the game changed due to cultural differences or if it's just people's personal opinions.

Hmm, if i wasn't replaying Suikoden 1-5 atm, i'd go back and check it.

I really did enjoy demon pacts. Nothing funnier then seeing them get pissed.

I just wish we could see innocent sin brought over. That would be a day one buy for me. It's also the only game in the Persona series i don't own.

Emilio Morales
04-11-2009, 07:51 PM
I just wish we could see innocent sin brought over. That would be a day one buy for me. It's also the only game in the Persona series i don't own.

A re-make of Persona 2, both Tsumi and Batsu, for the PSP would be the best! And a good chance for us to have Tsumi! They could even use the translation patch of Gemini and Tom and give him credit! n__n

...

*sigh* It's good that dreams doesn't cost anything :D

Zacewing
04-13-2009, 08:05 AM
If this one does well, Atlus might remake Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment.

Sleepless Neko
04-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Ah, They finally shows the Opening:
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/movie_op_01.html

Looks pretty artistic.

edit: wrong link

Samarecarm
04-17-2009, 09:35 PM
Ah, They finally shows the Opening:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q771C0MD

Looks pretty artistic.

I was wondering if any of the graphics on the official website would be in the game somewhere. Plus, I was also curious to how the music on the site would sound in the real game (not half instrumental, though I like that a lot also). Thanks for the link 'tis really cool.

Kenji
04-18-2009, 11:07 AM
Ah, They finally shows the Opening:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q771C0MD

Looks pretty artistic.

"Yours (disc 3)?" What the hell?

Thanks for the J-pop, but that wasn't really what I clicked on the link for.:question:

Samarecarm
04-18-2009, 12:05 PM
Ah, They finally shows the Opening:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q771C0MD

Looks pretty artistic.

"Yours (disc 3)?" What the hell?

Thanks for the J-pop, but that wasn't really what I clicked on the link for.:question:

:exclaim: So much for making assumptions. Honestly, I didn't click the link, but I saw the opening on the official site, of course.

xeno
04-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Ah, They finally shows the Opening:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q771C0MD

Looks pretty artistic.

"Yours (disc 3)?" What the hell?

Thanks for the J-pop, but that wasn't really what I clicked on the link for.:question:

I was fairly curious about that as well, that can't be Persona related...Well....It could, but it seems kinda unlikely...

Sleepless Neko
04-18-2009, 10:20 PM
Crap... I put the wrong link!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9J1jA4Kdg

From the official site
http://persona.atlusnet.jp/special/movie_op_01.html

Sorry for that -_-a

Isshin_Ryori
04-21-2009, 07:51 PM
Tch, There's gonna be one helluva party if that happens.

Blizz
05-02-2009, 01:58 PM
Is there going to be Snow Queen remake as well? Im buying Persona Remake when it first comes out to North America hopefully.