Console mover?

[Pibbman]

I'm not talking general public here, but you the reader themselves.

I loved Persona 3: FES, and was looking forward to P4 quite a bit. Now since P4 came out and I love it as well, the franchise has shown me that the developers are smart enough to stick with a winning formula.

Now, when Persona 5 comes out (whenever it does), I'll have to get it no matter what. Which means that Persona has become a franchise (and my first one to do so), that will force me to buy whatever console its released on.

I already got a PSP, PS3 and Wii (I'll eventually pick up a DS again, it was stupid of me to sell it in the first place). So hopefully it'll go to one of them if not PS2. In a nutshell, if it goes 360, first I'm going to have to spend a week crying to myself for going against my promise of never owning a microsoft product (heck I don't even have a Microsoft Operating system), and then buy the stupid thing. But then I would be celebrating with tears of joy as I play P5, and hope it doesn't RROD.

So, I'm wondering if Persona 5 came out on a platform you didn't own, would you buy that platform solely for that game? Or am I the only one that would? Personally I always felt it was stupid to buy a console for one game, but with Persona I can kind of understand why some people do such a thing.

[Hamel]

I would get whatever console the next good SMT comes out to
Like I got a PS3 for Disgaea 3

[Pibbman]

I would get whatever console the next good SMT comes out to
Like I got a PS3 for Disgaea 3

I salute you sir! I like Disgaea 3 as well, I still gotta get around to finishing it, but then again can you ever truly finish a disgaea game? lol.

[dunno001]

For 1 game? Sorry, but no. We have a rule here where all of us must have 5 games for a system that we're interested in before we get it. So if it comes to the PS3, there's a good chance I won't be playing it for a long while, if at all...

[jeffx]

I'm getting a 360 for Star Ocean 4... well I'm getting an HDTV first but you get the idea. I'm just undecided about buying a JPN model or not, given all the SHMUPs I want to buy.

[Moé]

I'm wondering why there is no SMT 4 announced yet.

Kaneko working on Raidou Kuzunoha II, Persona 4 being made before SMT 4, it's rather disturbing.

I just want my demon army back :c

[Eddie Van Helsing]

I have just about every current console, so this isn't really an issue for me. :) I bought a 360 for Bioshock and Oblivion, a PS3 for MGS4, Disgaea 3, and FFXIII, and a Wii for Metroid and Zelda. I also have a DS and a PSP lying around. :)

[Enzo_Kensei]

With regards to the topic, its very hard for me not to buy the console if Persona 5 will be there. But considering the prices of the current generation consoles at my place, I might consider first other elite titles for that system.

If it will be on a PS3, then cool. I'll buy a PS3. Coz aside from Persona 5 (if there is any) PS3 also have some cool games in their rack. e.g. Uncharted, MGS4, upcoming GoW 3 and Disgaea 3.

If it will be on X-box 360, well, I doubt it. I don't like microsoft anyway. I'll just cross my fingers and hope Persona 5 won't be in xbox 360.

If it will be in Wii, its ok.

If its in DS, its still ok. I'm neutral about Nintendo consoles anyway.

If it will be on the PS2, its cool too! In that case I won't have to buy another console just yet.

If it will be on the PSP, that'd be nice! I like Persona 5 being ported to the PSP. ^^

[Silverback1138]

I've got all 3 consoles so I'm good to go!!! Each platform is great in it's own way and personally, there are great games for each so it's no loss. I went from someone who preferred PS2 over XBox to someone who likes the X360 over the PS3. Not to say that I hated the less preferred platforms, but no one should get a free pass. I feel like many other gamers that Sony has kinda dropped the ball on the PS3. Not to say it's a bad system, but they messed up as a company. Just in the same way that I am big MS fan because I've used many of their products from OS, consoles, productivity software and even the Zunes. They've failed in some aspects but they also have some great products. Sorry to include this, I just feel that I should comment when I think that distain is unjustified.

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me, I would actually prefer that Persona 5 be a multiplatform effort so more gamers can have the chance to enjoy this great series.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ your an open-minded person. ^^

[Pibbman]

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me, I would actually prefer that Persona 5 be a multiplatform effort so more gamers can have the chance to enjoy this great series.

I understand your side of the everyone can enjoy it deal, but that comes at a cost when the game is being made for the lowest denominator (in other words, the least powerful system so it's equal across the board.), so it'd just hold back the more powerful system, be whatever one it is.

I don't really think it will happen though, when you look at In-house atlus titles, they are practically all exclusive to their respective consoles.

On another note, I'm fine with any of the Japanese-made consoles. However, honestly I prefer they NOT go the handheld route, while it's definitely cool to use it wherever, but man when it comes to me and Persona games, it's like 16 hours a day of playtime (seriously) and then the rest is sleep. Handheld you'd have to keep charging the battery, you could plug it in, but you better hope you got a comfortable spot near an outlet.

[Enzo_Kensei]

While it could be true that handhelds may lessen our playtime however it also has an advantage to us gamers. It controls us for playing long hours and could damage our eyes. I don't know for some but eye problems in the future would do us big time in the future.

[Pibbman]

While it could be true that handhelds may lessen our playtime however it also has an advantage to us gamers. It controls us for playing long hours and could damage our eyes. I don't know for some but eye problems in the future would do us big time in the future.

It's ok, for Persona they can damage my eyes as much as they want. I consider it taking a "hit" for a loved one. >.> I do take breaks though, about 10-15 minute ones. According to manuals they usually say to take a 15 minute break for every hour of gameplay.

So in reality, it's more like 12 hours a day I play, lol. I had to go a bit over the top with my 16 hour one. xD.

[Silverback1138]

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me, I would actually prefer that Persona 5 be a multiplatform effort so more gamers can have the chance to enjoy this great series.

I understand your side of the everyone can enjoy it deal, but that comes at a cost when the game is being made for the lowest denominator (in other words, the least powerful system so it's equal across the board.), so it'd just hold back the more powerful system, be whatever one it is.

I don't really think it will happen though, when you look at In-house atlus titles, they are practically all exclusive to their respective consoles.

On another note, I'm fine with any of the Japanese-made consoles. However, honestly I prefer they NOT go the handheld route, while it's definitely cool to use it wherever, but man when it comes to me and Persona games, it's like 16 hours a day of playtime (seriously) and then the rest is sleep. Handheld you'd have to keep charging the battery, you could plug it in, but you better hope you got a comfortable spot near an outlet.

Believe me that I'm person who enjoys great graphics (Considering I put together a system to play a game like Crysis), but not having the best graphics doesn't make the game ugly, WoW is a good example, not the best graphics but amazing art design to make a beautiful looking game. The Wii itself isn't a powerful system but good enough to produce great graphics. I'd rather that this series keep the anime look and feel that it does and even the lowest console in this generation could do it justice.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ It goes to prove the saying that HD technology isn't always = fun.

Persona series is cool in their own ways. Anime style of art is one of the major factors why I was hooked and addicted to the franchise.

[Azmid]

I have a 360, PS3, PS2, Wii, PSP and DS still working, so I'm probably fine.

If the game won't get a release outside of Japan, then I'm hoping it will be on PS3, PSP or DS since they are region-free. I wouldn't buy the same console again if it was just because of region-locks.

I have no preference over which console it should go to. Although if they are worried about piracy, seems that the PS3 has the least right now.

[Auden]

i still have to buy any of the next-gen platforms... they're a little too expensive for me now, but i'll manage ^_^ i think P5 might just be better on PS3, since all the latest SMT are on PS2, it's got an already installed base of fans there.

i don't really mind the xbox360 or the wii, they're both great consoles with great games, but i'd rather stay with PS ^_^

[Zephyrous]

P5? No. SMT4? Yes.

Doesn't matter though, I have all the current gen consoles anyways.

[Eternal Sin]

eh im looking forward to both, throw either one down my way

[Pibbman]

So 11 people here would buy a new console for Persona 5 alone. xD

[Eternal Sin]

i cant find anything on SMT 4, are you sure you got your facts straight? No articles, statements, or anything.

[Manic Expressive]

I buy consoles/platforms based on what kind of games I enjoy. Un/fortunately I love all kinds of genres, so I tend to own a lot. I don't think a Persona game would warrant a purchase of a PS3 or 360 alone since there are plenty of good games on each. If they do make another game in this series I hope it's announced long after we hear some kind of word on SMT IV. This is getting pathetic, what exactly is Atlus JP working on? That lame looking DS game? All I can speculate is that they are working hard on that "Shin Megami Tensei" title on PS3 that was announced in 2005, unless it was cancelled?

[Pibbman]

i cant find anything on SMT 4, are you sure you got your facts straight? No articles, statements, or anything.


September 7, 2005 - The PS2 has been the main platform this generation for games in the Shin Megami Tensei series of titles, and it looks like Atlus plans on keeping things that way as it goes into the next generation. According to reports from Japan (particularly Weekly Famitsu), Atlus will be bringing a new entry in the series to the PS3. Currently, the game is going by the tentative name of Shin Megami Tensei.

Known by fans as the "Megaten" series, Shin Megami Tensei has seen four installments on the PS2 and will see a new one shortly in the form of the offshoot Devil Summoner series. The series is known for its demonic themes, with some entries requiring that players suck the souls out of their enemies.

More as it becomes available -- this is expected to be next week at the Tokyo Game Show.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/648/648527p1.html

The article was posted back in 2005. Who knows if it is still in development though. I mean look at Guerilla Games, they had Killzone 2 in dev since 2005, but they have a much larger team. For all we know, Atlus could be working on an engine (doubt it) or something for the PS3 to use.

I hope they make the move soon, Nippon Ichi is already working on PS3 titles. Far as I know both of them are about the same size company.

However, if you recall what the people at Atlus said in the past, they don't announce anything unless they are sure of what they are going to do. So if they DID cancel it, we would of heard of it.

Here is a list that Sony confirmed themselves of games that are said to be released on the PS3.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/651/651540p1.html

I only counted 13 of the 105 to have already been released, but that low number is mostly due to the fact that a lot of the projects listed in it are unnamed or have their project name showing.

[Manic Expressive]

I don't know how long it took to develop SMT III but I hope at least a single screen or bit of information will surface this year.

[Pibbman]

I don't know how long it took to develop SMT III but I hope at least a single screen or bit of information will surface this year.

It's been what....4 years(?) since the last SMT main series game was released? I think we might hear something this year. Gotta keep in mind RPGs are one of the most time consuming games to make, since it's such a story oriented genre, filled with cutscenes to make, voice work, etc.

Although how fast they pushed out Persona 4 after Persona 3 was truly amazing, but they had the engine all done and stuff for them anyways.

[Manic Expressive]

RPG's didn't always have cutscenes and voices to make, sure everyone has standards to meet nowadays but SMT III didn't need ridiculously long cutscenes and voice acting to make it the best game in the entire series. All it needed was its battle mechanics, versatile dungeon design, epic post-apocalyptic demons are your friends etc lol. If Atlus does try to meet today's standards with those things well I sure hope they are absolutely nothing like the Persona games in terms of storyline and style.

[Eternal Sin]

ya but no new information in 4 years? I mean even if the DID barely work on it there would still be something to update.

[Crabman]

Yes, but only because I already have a Wii and 360 wouldn't mind a PS3 :D There are already enough games on the system worth buying in my eyes, but I can't afford it right now. Hopefully by the time P5 comes out it will be a little cheaper (come on April price drop!).

[Taroni]

I'm not talking general public here, but you the reader themselves.

I loved Persona 3: FES, and was looking forward to P4 quite a bit. Now since P4 came out and I love it as well, the franchise has shown me that the developers are smart enough to stick with a winning formula.

Now, when Persona 5 comes out (whenever it does), I'll have to get it no matter what. Which means that Persona has become a franchise (and my first one to do so), that will force me to buy whatever console its released on.

I already got a PSP, PS3 and Wii (I'll eventually pick up a DS again, it was stupid of me to sell it in the first place). So hopefully it'll go to one of them if not PS2. In a nutshell, if it goes 360, first I'm going to have to spend a week crying to myself for going against my promise of never owning a microsoft product (heck I don't even have a Microsoft Operating system), and then buy the stupid thing. But then I would be celebrating with tears of joy as I play P5, and hope it doesn't RROD.

So, I'm wondering if Persona 5 came out on a platform you didn't own, would you buy that platform solely for that game? Or am I the only one that would? Personally I always felt it was stupid to buy a console for one game, but with Persona I can kind of understand why some people do such a thing.

Same here! Didn't like Xbox and Windows is ... well it's better for me then mac but it's got loads of problems

Now to get people to get Atlus to release Persona Rev, Eternal Poison, and Innocent Sin on the PSN eh lol

[tokoshi_x]

Well I only got my Wii and DS. My bro has a 360 so I'm fine on that part. My sister has a PSP so maybe I could borrow that from her. If the next Persona or SMT game would to come to PS3, I'll have to think about it. It will mostly depend on my financial situation when that time comes if I were to invest in buying one.

[Silverback1138]

Like I said before, I would like to get the next Persona or any SMT game on all the consoles. I think it would be great for all gamers who have interest in the series. It would also help Altus gauge interest in the audience of each console. This would be a win for gamers who want to play it and also a win so Atlus can make even more games if more people buy it.

[persona3rocks]

I just wished it would stay on ps2 but i highly dout it!!!

[Olethros]

I would never buy a system soley for one game. That's someone who doesn't know the value of money.

P5 can stay shelved as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure I'll even buy it in support if it comes out ahead of an SMT 4. I'd be too pissed off.

Also, I will never buy a Wii. Period, end of discussion. So if Atlus moves any of their games to that system, they'll have lost me as a supporter.

[Eternal Sin]

well theres plenty more supporters though, but yeah it would suck if it came out for Wii

[Enzo_Kensei]

[quote=Olethros;86747]I would never buy a system soley for one game. That's someone who doesn't know the value of money.

Yep, money is very important these days.

[Pibbman]

I would never buy a system soley for one game. That's someone who doesn't know the value of money.

P5 can stay shelved as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure I'll even buy it in support if it comes out ahead of an SMT 4. I'd be too pissed off.

Also, I will never buy a Wii. Period, end of discussion. So if Atlus moves any of their games to that system, they'll have lost me as a supporter.

You ever thought that maybe a fan finds the experience worth the price of a console?

This is how I look at things when I make a purchase of something. Lets say a console cost $200, and the game cost $35, totaling $235. Now, if you think about how much you make at a job, let's say for this example $15 an hour. That's roughly 16 hours of work, so a full time job it's like 2 days of work.

Next I think, is 2 days of work worth this? Well, in return for that 2 days of work, I'm getting a new console and a game that can last you a good 80-100 hours. 16 hours of work for 80-100 hours of a great game seems like a awesome deal for me, not to mention there is always that potential game down the road in the future for that same system.

Now, not everyone thinks the same way, but I'd hardly say that anyone who spends money to buy a console and a game they really want, as someone who doesn't know the value of a dollar.

The value of something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, just because someone thinks it's worth more or less, doesn't mean they don't know the value of money.

Now if you were talking about a normal drinking straw, and someone pays 200 dollars for one? You might have a point there. Like I said in my initial post, there is only 2 franchise I myself would ever consider such a thing on.

Uncharted which is an 8 hour game, but to buy a console worth 400 and a 60 dollar game....I'd probably think twice before that one. But thankfully Sony has a number of franchises they own that I also enjoy.

Lastly, this post isn't meant to start anything, it's just a more in-depth view of how someone like that would view things.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ I see your point pibbman. :)

[persona3rocks]

Me too And i guess for me i make 9 dollors an hour and i work quite hard for my money and i love persona. So id prolly buy the consolle but there has to be more good game for it to

[Pibbman]

It's just depends on how to think of it. Of course these days the newer consoles also have more bang for their buck, such as Blu-ray for movies and whatnot.

Yeah, but 9 an hour, would mean over 45 hours of work you'd have to do to get that (if you wanted a PS3 for an example). That's quite a bit of money, but if you knew a game you wanted was coming out on a system you dont own, if you were smart you'd plan ahead of time and start saving up. That way the impact of it is less.

Like take 25 dollars out of each check you get, until the game releases you should have enough by time it releases. Most companies announce games months ahead of time anyways.

[Eternal Sin]

A new console is not that expensive unless you're unemployed or in severe debt (or have 12 kids). Thinking "im not buying a console for one game" is a poor train of thought because chances are there's more than one game on that console you would like (if you don't bother to look at them, its ultimately your loss).

Since P5 and/or SMT4 are both RPG games (more specifically JRPGs) heres just a few games on either console that are worth your time.

PS3:
-Eternal Sonata
-Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy versus XIII
-Last Remnant

Xbox360:
-Star Ocean 4
-Tales of Vesperia
-Infinite Undiscovery

This is just naming so big name stuff, theres lots more. Also this is just JRPGs, there are alot more games on both consoles worth the money invested.

EDIT: I can support why each game is worth your time. And even if some games are both 360-PS3, they are in one category only because one version is clearly superior.

[Silverback1138]

What's with the Wii hate? Granted that it's not the most powerful system, but it still has a good library. There is a lot of crap on there too but I don't buy that stuff and I still have about 15 games for the system. If a new SMT game came out for it, I hope they use traditional controls though, no need for motion in that type of game.

[Pibbman]

What's with the Wii hate? Granted that it's not the most powerful system, but it still has a good library. There is a lot of crap on there too but I don't buy that stuff and I still have about 15 games for the system. If a new SMT game came out for it, I hope they use traditional controls though, no need for motion in that type of game.

I don't think it's entirely because of it's power, because the PS2 proves that you can still have awesome games on it despite it's power being even weaker than that of the Wii.

What good games is there other than the core nintendo games and maybe 1 or 2 games outside of that? Really the library is pretty horrible. My Wii hasn't been turned on for about a year and half now. Only reason why I'm keeping it is for the next Zelda game, and perhaps if Atlus unfortunately goes the route of releasing an SMT (or spin off) on that system.

However, I rather that if they move on from PS2, and can't go the PS3 route, that they go to the Wii. I really doubt they'll release on 360, the user base in Japan just isn't there for it. If atlus is smart, they would go to the PS3 because it's proven console there, especially after the sales results from WKC showing that it outsold all the RPGs combined on 360, in the first week alone.

I doubt I'll ever "truly" hate Nintendo, after all we owe a lot to the company for the industry to still be here today.

@ Eternal Sin

Last Remnant isn't even out on PS3 yet. xD. I would add Valkyria Chronicles to that list too, who would of figured that Sega could do such an awesome SRPG.

[Las Lobos]

Well lucky for me I already own a PS3 and I'm proud of it. So if it's a ps3 exclusive, which I can really see happening, then I don't have to worry. I think SMT series belongs to SONY (you know what I mean) I mean ATLUS already has a couple 360 exclusives out now so why steer shy of a console that they've been faithful to thus far with the SMT games. I mean ATLUS could've easily put P4 on 360 but they didn't.

@Pibbman: I only played the demo for "Valkyria Chronicle" and I REALLY liked it, I'm definitely going to buy it when I get the chance, as for The Last Remnant, I don't know. I don't care much for MS, and no I'm not a SONY fanboy, I just prefer SONY just like I prefer MACS over PCs. As for the Wii I loved NES and Super NES, Game cube was alright but they got that awesome Resident Evil remake. Wii just doesn't tickle my fancy.

[Eternal Sin]

@ Eternal Sin

Last Remnant isn't even out on PS3 yet. xD. I would add Valkyria Chronicles to that list too, who would of figured that Sega could do such an awesome SRPG.

FF13, FFv13, Star Ocean 4 arent out for their respective consoles yet either. Though SO4 is going to be released on the 24th of Feb!

[Olethros]

Well lucky for me I already own a PS3 and I'm proud of it. So if it's a ps3 exclusive, which I can really see happening, then I don't have to worry. I think SMT series belongs to SONY (you know what I mean) I mean ATLUS already has a couple 360 exclusives out now so why steer shy of a console that they've been faithful to thus far with the SMT games. I mean ATLUS could've easily put P4 on 360 but they didn't.

@Pibbman: I only played the demo for "Valkyria Chronicle" and I REALLY liked it, I'm definitely going to buy it when I get the chance, as for The Last Remnant, I don't know. I don't care much for MS, and no I'm not a SONY fanboy, I just prefer SONY just like I prefer MACS over PCs. As for the Wii I loved NES and Super NES, Game cube was alright but they got that awesome Resident Evil remake. Wii just doesn't tickle my fancy.

Are you on crack or something? Seriously, the only reason they made P4 was to re-use the same damned engine with the same mechanics. Changing from the PS2 to the 360 would have taken much longer (it still wouldn't be out) and would have been exponentially more expensive.


As for the responses to my statement that buying a console for one game equates to a lack of monetary understanding, I don't think any of you really get it. I could afford it with less than a full days work, but that's not the point either. I think most of you simply won't be able to understand the validity of the statement until you either don't live in a dorm or don't live with your parents. Once you no longer do either of those things, think back on this and I'll bet your view will be very different.

EDIT: Almost forgot; as for the Wii it's not even truly a next (now) gen system so it shouldn't even really be an option. It's a Gamecube with some gimmicky decades old motion control. The people that bought into that scam are suckers.

[DarKaoZ]

If it came in a console I didn't own, then I wouldn't buy a console for P5 alone. But if the system had more games that I was interested in then yes, I might had.

I have a PS3 and a 360, I mostly play my PS3 and I kinda regret getting the 360 for Gears 2, which was a disappointment for me, still it was worth to get for other games that are coming for it.

[Pibbman]

As for the responses to my statement that buying a console for one game equates to a lack of monetary understanding, I don't think any of you really get it. I could afford it with less than a full days work, but that's not the point either. I think most of you simply won't be able to understand the validity of the statement until you either don't live in a dorm or don't live with your parents. Once you no longer do either of those things, think back on this and I'll bet your view will be very different.


I like how you make statements about people you don't even know. >.>

Then again it goes back to what I said before, it all depends on how you view things, if something has that value to you or not.

How are we making you "think" these things of us, do you know our living arrangements? The standard of living cost in the region we live in? There is a number of variables that come into factor here. Now maybe if you actually knew us, you might have something there, but I see nothing for you to even base that assumption off of. Don't be so quick to judge.

[Olethros]

^ A lot of words with little to nothing in the way of evidence, or even of denial, that my theory is incorrect.

I Judge based on a lifetime of being able to accurately read people. Say what you will, but as of yet I stand pat on my initial assumption.

[Sei]

I really like the Wii, I think it was a genius move personally! First rank in sales in all territories would support this!

I wonder why it gets so much hate! I think, when compared to other next gen consoles, it stacks favorably in some areas, not so much in others. But one can't deny it has completely changed a number of paradigms as far as waggling controllers are concerned!

[Olethros]

^ I will concede that as a marketing move, Nintendo made a huge amount of money on the system. I think long term, however, they've badly hurt themselves by abandoning the hardcore crowd. When the casuals move on to the next big "thing" to come out, who will be left to buy their consoles?

[Sei]

There is always the possibility that those casuals will play things other than Wii fit! And it's really hard to deny the possibilities of WAGGLE!

Sei Fact: I play my Wii every day. Neither of my other Next Gen systems can say the same.

I would also honestly say that Nintendo seems to "get" things this time around. I'd point at professor layton. A common puzzle game that wouldn't sell worth anything made a mega hit (in japan for sure, dunno us figures) by adding an interesting plot and endearing characters and a lot of style.

I would love more of that as opposed to "bald guy with guns with a higher resolution beard on which you can make out individual hairs"! But thats just me!

I honestly think you should give it a shot, Wii fit might just be what you need to keep in shape! I hear you aren't getting any younger!

[Pibbman]

^ A lot of words with little to nothing in the way of evidence, or even of denial, that my theory is incorrect.

I Judge based on a lifetime of being able to accurately read people. Say what you will, but as of yet I stand pat on my initial assumption.

I have no reason to prove myself (or the reasoning of others for that matter) to some guy over the internet. What I've been stating since the beginning is how such a thing may be viewed. Believe what you will.

There is always the possibility that those casuals will play things other than Wii fit! And it's really hard to deny the possibilities of WAGGLE!

Sei Fact: I play my Wii every day. Neither of my other Next Gen systems can say the same.

I would also honestly say that Nintendo seems to "get" things this time around. I'd point at professor layton. A common puzzle game that wouldn't sell worth anything made a mega hit (in japan for sure, dunno us figures) by adding an interesting plot and endearing characters and a lot of style.

I would love more of that as opposed to "bald guy with guns with a higher resolution beard on which you can make out individual hairs"! But thats just me!

I honestly think you should give it a shot, Wii fit might just be what you need to keep in shape! I hear you aren't getting any younger!

Professor Layton is entirely Level 5's game. That's cool you enjoy the Wii and what it has, sadly my Wii sees little playtime. I could care less if the graphics are HD, but it's at the level where it's pretty good already. It's all gameplay and if the core games I grew up with are still there, and STILL sticking to the core gameplay.

[Sei]

Professor Layton is entirely Level 5's game. That's cool you enjoy the Wii and what it has, sadly my Wii sees little playtime. I could care less if the graphics are HD, but it's at the level where it's pretty good already. It's all gameplay and if the core games I grew up with are still there, and STILL sticking to the core gameplay.

You are right! I had forgotten about Level 5. I'll correct myself and say that they get it then.

[Shhteve]

I've got all 3 consoles so I'm good to go!!! Each platform is great in it's own way and personally, there are great games for each so it's no loss.

Personally, it wouldn't matter to me, I would actually prefer that Persona 5 be a multiplatform effort so more gamers can have the chance to enjoy this great series.

Agreed.

[Pibbman]

@Pibbman: I only played the demo for "Valkyria Chronicle" and I REALLY liked it, I'm definitely going to buy it when I get the chance, as for The Last Remnant, I don't know. I don't care much for MS, and no I'm not a SONY fanboy, I just prefer SONY just like I prefer MACS over PCs. As for the Wii I loved NES and Super NES, Game cube was alright but they got that awesome Resident Evil remake. Wii just doesn't tickle my fancy.

I'm pretty much the same way. I don't have any microsoft products in my house at all, and like my OS X.

[Silverback1138]

There is always the possibility that those casuals will play things other than Wii fit! And it's really hard to deny the possibilities of WAGGLE!

Sei Fact: I play my Wii every day. Neither of my other Next Gen systems can say the same.

I would also honestly say that Nintendo seems to "get" things this time around. I'd point at professor layton. A common puzzle game that wouldn't sell worth anything made a mega hit (in japan for sure, dunno us figures) by adding an interesting plot and endearing characters and a lot of style.

I would love more of that as opposed to "bald guy with guns with a higher resolution beard on which you can make out individual hairs"! But thats just me!

I honestly think you should give it a shot, Wii fit might just be what you need to keep in shape! I hear you aren't getting any younger!

I agree with you quiet a bit. Believe me when I say that I'm a graphics whore but I also understand that it isn't what truly makes a good game. The Wii is an awesome system, but it's also lacking that people counted Nintendo out and when they realized it was going to be a big hit, most developers were pretty lazy with it and wanted to cash in with half-@ass effort. I can truly say that my Wii almost has double the library of my PS3 for the longest time and the only reason my PS3 gets more use then my Wii is because of the blu ray functionality. Until recently, the PS3 game library actually disappointed me. The library only looks good if you're single console gamer and even then the X360 library looks better overall.

I'm pretty much the same way. I don't have any microsoft products in my house at all, and like my OS X.

I'd like to mention that I've been a Vista user for the past year and while it's not perfect, I've loved it. I use alot of MS products from the X360, the Zune to productivity and developement software. Some of their products definitely aren't perfect but I've also seen many of them as competitively superior in features and functionality. I can understand not liking their products as preference, but I don't think MS is "evil."

Enough about the consoles guys. We should really talk more about Persona or SMT sequels. Everyone here seems great so far and I don't want this thread to become a console war thread. Would rather everyone discuss they can't wait for the next game in the series.

[Sei]

I can't wait for the next game in the series!

[Enzo_Kensei]

My hopes of the next Persona series on the PSP was shattered by the announcement of a remake Persona: Revelation on the PSP.

[reason1313]

With all due respect to the Wii, DS, and 360, i will not purchase one of those to play Persona 5. One console this gen and the game prices as they are ($60) basically keeps me from purchasing one of the above.

Besides, i am quite happy with my PS1-PS2-PS3.

If Atlus finds it in their heart not to stick with localizing to the PS2-PS3, i will wish them a hearty farewell, and with a very sad heart move on. I still have quite a collection of Atlus games to play for the PS1 and PS2 as it is.

BTW, Persona 2 looks great on a PS3. So does Maya ^_^.....

I'm going to be 43 soon, and i can see the end of my gaming days coming, anyways. That is saddening me enough.

[Pibbman]

With all due respect to the Wii, DS, and 360, i will not purchase one of those to play Persona 5. One console this gen and the game prices as they are ($60) basically keeps me from purchasing one of the above.

Besides, i am quite happy with my PS1-PS2-PS3.

If Atlus finds it in their heart not to stick with localizing to the PS2-PS3, i will wish them a hearty farewell, and with a very sad heart move on. I still have quite a collection of Atlus games to play for the PS1 and PS2 as it is.

BTW, Persona 2 looks great on a PS3. So does Maya ^_^.....

I'm going to be 43 soon, and i can see the end of my gaming days coming, anyways. That is saddening me enough.

Pfft, you can never be too old to game. I'll be a 80 year old gaming dude when I'm 80. Heck Kotaku is always doing articles from time to time where they post about some guy in his 70s and 80s who plays video games.

I'll be like the coolest grandpa that no one can beat, because I'll have like...60 years of gaming under my belt by then lol. The only thing that could stop me would be arthritis or something haha. Not to mention studies show that those who play video games well into older age helps keep their mind sharp.

[Silverback1138]

With all due respect to the Wii, DS, and 360, i will not purchase one of those to play Persona 5. One console this gen and the game prices as they are ($60) basically keeps me from purchasing one of the above.

Besides, i am quite happy with my PS1-PS2-PS3.

If Atlus finds it in their heart not to stick with localizing to the PS2-PS3, i will wish them a hearty farewell, and with a very sad heart move on. I still have quite a collection of Atlus games to play for the PS1 and PS2 as it is.

BTW, Persona 2 looks great on a PS3. So does Maya ^_^.....

I'm going to be 43 soon, and i can see the end of my gaming days coming, anyways. That is saddening me enough.

Pfft, you can never be too old to game. I'll be a 80 year old gaming dude when I'm 80. Heck Kotaku is always doing articles from time to time where they post about some guy in his 70s and 80s who plays video games.

I'll be like the coolest grandpa that no one can beat, because I'll have like...60 years of gaming under my belt by then lol. The only thing that could stop me would be arthritis or something haha. Not to mention studies show that those who play video games well into older age helps keep their mind sharp.

Amen to that brother. Whoever said gaming was limited to a certain age group. Society needs to realize that like movies, books, and other forums of media, certain genre's of gaming are targetted towards adults. I'm going to personally teach my kids and grandkids how to deathmatch. There are definitely positive effects of gaming. We can start the geriatric gamers association..lol

[Pibbman]

With all due respect to the Wii, DS, and 360, i will not purchase one of those to play Persona 5. One console this gen and the game prices as they are ($60) basically keeps me from purchasing one of the above.

Besides, i am quite happy with my PS1-PS2-PS3.

If Atlus finds it in their heart not to stick with localizing to the PS2-PS3, i will wish them a hearty farewell, and with a very sad heart move on. I still have quite a collection of Atlus games to play for the PS1 and PS2 as it is.

BTW, Persona 2 looks great on a PS3. So does Maya ^_^.....

I'm going to be 43 soon, and i can see the end of my gaming days coming, anyways. That is saddening me enough.

Pfft, you can never be too old to game. I'll be a 80 year old gaming dude when I'm 80. Heck Kotaku is always doing articles from time to time where they post about some guy in his 70s and 80s who plays video games.

I'll be like the coolest grandpa that no one can beat, because I'll have like...60 years of gaming under my belt by then lol. The only thing that could stop me would be arthritis or something haha. Not to mention studies show that those who play video games well into older age helps keep their mind sharp.

Amen to that brother. Whoever said gaming was limited to a certain age group. Society needs to realize that like movies, books, and other forums of media, certain genre's of gaming are targetted towards adults. I'm going to personally teach my kids and grandkids how to deathmatch. There are definitely positive effects of gaming. We can start the geriatric gamers association..lol

Hahaha, and the Geriatric Gamers Association would be most feared. It'll probably be one of the few things in the world where old people can kick the living crap out of the youngins.

I'll most likely always keep the Persona games and show it to my kids/grandkids. They'll be like "What is this stuff?!...a P...S...2? What's this slot thingy in the front? Wut? Controllers?. Why didn't they make these for the Holodeck?"
"Because back in the old days, we didn't have any darn holodeck things"

On a second note, wouldn't playing Persona on a holodeck (star trek) be friggin awesome as hell? Oh man, gives me shivers thinking of it. Ok, I'm letting my nerd side get out. xD

[Tatsuya]

Without question i'd get P5 if it was released on any system, though i'm not happy with all 3 atm, i have a 360 (which i hate btw) and i'm saving up for a ps3 atm, unfortunately you can guess that i'm gonna get a used one with B/C.

About the age thing, unless world war 3 breaks out and everyone must fight to survive, i'll die with a controller in my hands.

[Zephyr_Fate]

So what are the NPD #'s for P4? It didn't break Top 10 (so it sold <400k in December), but nobody has reported its actual numbers.

[Pibbman]

So what are the NPD #'s for P4? It didn't break Top 10 (so it sold <400k in December), but nobody has reported its actual numbers.

It didn't even make the top 20 list, which was posted a day or two after the top 10 was. I wasn't expecting it to hit that list, but it'd be nice to see what it got. My rough guess would be anywhere from 80,000 to 120,000 copies.

[Tatsuya]

So what are the NPD #'s for P4? It didn't break Top 10 (so it sold <400k in December), but nobody has reported its actual numbers.

It didn't even make the top 20 list, which was posted a day or two after the top 10 was. I wasn't expecting it to hit that list, but it'd be nice to see what it got. My rough guess would be anywhere from 80,000 to 120,000 copies.

It really wasn't made to break the top 10, it did as well as it should have done considering the market it's for, i doubt atlus even made 400,000 copies.

[Azmid]

Game #11 in december top 20 NPD is Wii Music with ~480k. The highest ranking PS2 game is Guitar Hero World Tour (#17) overall. P4 is also not in the top 20 PS2 games (In which GH World Tour is #1). I don't think we'll ever get an accurate # for it. If I remember correctly, the vanilla Persona 3 did ~70k overall when all was said and done though (This information was released as pdf file that included information on how overseas games were doing in atlus jp site). If I had to guess it probably did close to that

[Pibbman]

Game #11 in december top 20 NPD is Wii Music with ~480k. The highest ranking PS2 game is Guitar Hero World Tour (#17) overall. P4 is also not in the top 20 PS2 games (In which GH World Tour is #1). I don't think we'll ever get an accurate # for it. If I remember correctly, the vanilla Persona 3 did ~70k overall when all was said and done though (This information was released as pdf file that included information on how overseas games were doing in atlus jp site). If I had to guess it probably did close to that

Well then, I don't know what the costs are after all fees to print and whatnot, but I imagine they made a nice chunk of money. I don't think Sony has fees like they did when PS2 was the only one out.

I'm thinking of possibly picking up a second copy though.

[God]

For 1 game? Sorry, but no. We have a rule here where all of us must have 5 games for a system that we're interested in before we get it. So if it comes to the PS3, there's a good chance I won't be playing it for a long while, if at all...

I bought Gamecube for Tales of Symphonia

[Las Lobos]

For 1 game? Sorry, but no. We have a rule here where all of us must have 5 games for a system that we're interested in before we get it. So if it comes to the PS3, there's a good chance I won't be playing it for a long while, if at all...

I bought Gamecube for Tales of Symphonia
Yes but then again game consoles back then were alot cheaper to though. Even though I plan on getting a GC for the Resident Evil remake and Metroid games.

[Pibbman]

For 1 game? Sorry, but no. We have a rule here where all of us must have 5 games for a system that we're interested in before we get it. So if it comes to the PS3, there's a good chance I won't be playing it for a long while, if at all...

I bought Gamecube for Tales of Symphonia
Yes but then again game consoles back then were alot cheaper to though. Even though I plan on getting a GC for the Resident Evil remake and Metroid games.

Not really, because the cost of living is constantly changing, as well as inflation.

For example, back when NES came out it was $199, a price many today would be willing to pay for a console. However, in todays dollars that is roughly $400 dollars. It was by no means cheap when it came out.

Using Playstation 2 as an example, it launched at 299.99, which in todays dollar is roughly over $375.

So if these consoles were going to go on sale tomorrow with the value of money today, would you say they are pretty cheap?

[Manic Expressive]

I actually didn't buy a PS2 until it was lowered to $199. I remember I mainly wanted it for FFX and Suikoden III. It's actually really refreshing to see the previous gen games go for so damn cheap now considering I missed out on a lot.

[Crabman]

Game #11 in december top 20 NPD is Wii Music with ~480k. The highest ranking PS2 game is Guitar Hero World Tour (#17) overall. P4 is also not in the top 20 PS2 games (In which GH World Tour is #1). I don't think we'll ever get an accurate # for it. If I remember correctly, the vanilla Persona 3 did ~70k overall when all was said and done though (This information was released as pdf file that included information on how overseas games were doing in atlus jp site). If I had to guess it probably did close to that

Well then, I don't know what the costs are after all fees to print and whatnot, but I imagine they made a nice chunk of money. I don't think Sony has fees like they did when PS2 was the only one out.

I'm thinking of possibly picking up a second copy though.

Put that money towards Nocturne!

[Kyo Kusanagi]

Persona 5 should comes out for PC too. I own a PS2 but I don't like consoles, I like the PC and since many games are coming out only for consoles, I'm thinking about Xbox 360. But if it comes out for PC it would be great. Maybe some fans wouldn't have to buy a console and just play it on the computer.

[truegamer12]

Persona 5 should comes out for PC too. I own a PS2 but I don't like consoles, I like the PC and since many games are coming out only for consoles, I'm thinking about Xbox 360. But if it comes out for PC it would be great. Maybe some fans wouldn't have to buy a console and just play it on the computer.

considering how bad piracy supposedly is on the PC I doubt there'll be a single player player persona game on the PC. I think persona 5 we either be on he 360, ps3, or both

[Fear Toxin]

If it goes to Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 then no I will not buy either as Playstation 3 is way too expensive and not enough exclusive titles I want to play. I currently own a Xbox 360 but the 360 is an unreliable piece of junk (RRoD anyone) and mine is about to get traded in. Now I would get a Wii as there are other games on it already that I want to play. Now if Persona 5 went handheld then I'll not get it as I really have no use for a handheld. I own a GBA and a Game Gear, I barely play either.

[raum215]

I will buy an ez-bake oven to play Shin Megami Demon Cupcake Champion, if ATLUS makes it and releases it in the states.

and I hate cupcakes.

[Olethros]

If it goes to Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 then no I will not buy either as Playstation 3 is way too expensive and not enough exclusive titles I want to play. I currently own a Xbox 360 but the 360 is an unreliable piece of junk (RRoD anyone) and mine is about to get traded in. Now I would get a Wii as there are other games on it already that I want to play. Now if Persona 5 went handheld then I'll not get it as I really have no use for a handheld. I own a GBA and a Game Gear, I barely play either.

Soooo, basically out of everything currently available you only want a Wii, and you're trading in your Xbox because it might RRoD? Am I understanding this correctly? :confused:

[Joaquin8911]

I've always tought about buying another console (360 or Wii) but up 'till now i don't really have a strong reason to do so.

Persona 5 would be that reason. i hope it comes out on PS3 though

[Kyo Kusanagi]

Persona 5 should comes out for PC too. I own a PS2 but I don't like consoles, I like the PC and since many games are coming out only for consoles, I'm thinking about Xbox 360. But if it comes out for PC it would be great. Maybe some fans wouldn't have to buy a console and just play it on the computer.

considering how bad piracy supposedly is on the PC I doubt there'll be a single player player persona game on the PC. I think persona 5 we either be on he 360, ps3, or both
Well then PS3 it's the best option, since no one can "hack" this console, otherwise Xbox 360 has bad piracy too. But It is too expensive and aesthetically
is mmmmm, ugly :D Well, I don't know what you wanted to say, but not all PCers are pirates :(

[Emilio Morales]

Yeah! Of course I do, since Persona series are my favorite. But if the game comes out for the Wii or the 360 then I would probably just buy the game and in the future when I have the chance I buy the console. For me, having the game in my hands is more than enough.

[truegamer12]

Persona 5 should comes out for PC too. I own a PS2 but I don't like consoles, I like the PC and since many games are coming out only for consoles, I'm thinking about Xbox 360. But if it comes out for PC it would be great. Maybe some fans wouldn't have to buy a console and just play it on the computer.

considering how bad piracy supposedly is on the PC I doubt there'll be a single player player persona game on the PC. I think persona 5 we either be on he 360, ps3, or both
Well then PS3 it's the best option, since no one can "hack" this console, otherwise Xbox 360 has bad piracy too. But It is too expensive and aesthetically
is mmmmm, ugly :D Well, I don't know what you wanted to say, but not all PCers are pirates :(
I'm not saying PCer are pirates but piracy is a bigger issue on pc than consoles. As putting the game on the ps3, the only thing I'm worried about is production value. It's expensive to make a game now and there is an exception on graphics

[Fear Toxin]

If it goes to Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 then no I will not buy either as Playstation 3 is way too expensive and not enough exclusive titles I want to play. I currently own a Xbox 360 but the 360 is an unreliable piece of junk (RRoD anyone) and mine is about to get traded in. Now I would get a Wii as there are other games on it already that I want to play. Now if Persona 5 went handheld then I'll not get it as I really have no use for a handheld. I own a GBA and a Game Gear, I barely play either.

Soooo, basically out of everything currently available you only want a Wii, and you're trading in your Xbox because it might RRoD? Am I understanding this correctly? :confused:

Yes, out of the current gen consoles I would only consider owning a Wii. I'm thinking of trading in my Xbox 360 not because it might RRoD but because it WILL RRoD again, it's just a matter of time. It's already been sent in for repairs once and is freezing whenever it feels like it. I just got it back from repair the first week of December. The Xbox 360 is just an unreliable piece of junk. Everyone on my friends list is on their 2nd to 5th Xbox 360. The other 8 consoles I own work as good as the day I got them but the Xbox 360 is just poorly built which is why it has such a high failure rate.

[Olethros]

^ Fair enough. I just wanted to make sure I was getting it right.

[truegamer12]

If it goes to Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 then no I will not buy either as Playstation 3 is way too expensive and not enough exclusive titles I want to play. I currently own a Xbox 360 but the 360 is an unreliable piece of junk (RRoD anyone) and mine is about to get traded in. Now I would get a Wii as there are other games on it already that I want to play. Now if Persona 5 went handheld then I'll not get it as I really have no use for a handheld. I own a GBA and a Game Gear, I barely play either.

Soooo, basically out of everything currently available you only want a Wii, and you're trading in your Xbox because it might RRoD? Am I understanding this correctly? :confused:

Yes, out of the current gen consoles I would only consider owning a Wii. I'm thinking of trading in my Xbox 360 not because it might RRoD but because it WILL RRoD again, it's just a matter of time. It's already been sent in for repairs once and is freezing whenever it feels like it. I just got it back from repair the first week of December. The Xbox 360 is just an unreliable piece of junk. Everyone on my friends list is on their 2nd to 5th Xbox 360. The other 8 consoles I own work as good as the day I got them but the Xbox 360 is just poorly built which is why it has such a high failure rate.

you could alway try to save up for an elite. I heard that one has to problem with RROD. I just don't think it's a good idea to go for a wii

[persona3rocks]

See i think it would be cool for Wii just for the fighting part. i love wii boxing ang i could totally see we with a sword slicing shadows.

[Pibbman]

I haven't even turn my Wii on since...a week after Super Mario Galaxy came out and I beat the game. It might get turned on again for Little King Story though, and that one Vanillaware title for Wii.

In any case, my Wii gets very little use. Only reason why I still have it is for the next Zelda game, hopefully they don't "casualify" it or something, after that comes out, I'll most likely sell mine.

[Olethros]

^ Hey, we actually agree on something!

[septembervirgin]

Actually my "maybe" would depend on the console capabilities, the perfection of the Persona game, and if the cost was not forboding (such as the cost of a PS3 or a X-BOX).

So I'm staving off answering this until there's another option -- my answer probably doesn't matter anyway.

[Las Lobos]

For 1 game? Sorry, but no. We have a rule here where all of us must have 5 games for a system that we're interested in before we get it. So if it comes to the PS3, there's a good chance I won't be playing it for a long while, if at all...

I bought Gamecube for Tales of Symphonia
Yes but then again game consoles back then were alot cheaper to though. Even though I plan on getting a GC for the Resident Evil remake and Metroid games.

Not really, because the cost of living is constantly changing, as well as inflation.

For example, back when NES came out it was $199, a price many today would be willing to pay for a console. However, in todays dollars that is roughly $400 dollars. It was by no means cheap when it came out.

Using Playstation 2 as an example, it launched at 299.99, which in todays dollar is roughly over $375.

So if these consoles were going to go on sale tomorrow with the value of money today, would you say they are pretty cheap?
oh yes good point my friend. I guess what I meant to say or ask God was when he/she bought the gamecube seeing as the price for that console has dropped a buttload.

[jj984jj]

P5? No. SMT4? Yes.
This!!! SMT4 is what matters most, get cracking Hashino.

[Las Lobos]

I do agree about dimming down on the Persona series for now at last and work on the next SMT game. I mean don't get me wrong Persona is a great series one of my favorites buuuut at the same time there's alot of fans looking forward to a next SMT game so why not ATLUS?

[Marnic]

I already have all consoles so it won't be a problem for me if it releases on one console and not the other.

It'll probably be a PS3 release though seeing how popular the PS3 is in japan and all. But I could be wrong though, the xbox has gotten its share of exclusive JRPGs. Eitherway I don't think Atlus would make it a multiplatform release and with the Persona 1 remake for the PSP coming out soon I'm pretty sure it's gonna be release on one of those.

It could also be heading for the Wii if Atlus decides to do the same thing they did with Persona 4 and try to be less fancy about it. I bet there's a possibilty for a port of either PS2 games to the Wii...but other than reaching out for those who don't have a PS2 I don't really see why it's necessary...



...Using the Wii-mote for the fishing minigame?

I'm set to buy it whenever it releases.

I do agree about dimming down on the Persona series for now at last and work on the next SMT game. I mean don't get me wrong Persona is a great series one of my favorites buuuut at the same time there's alot of fans looking forward to a next SMT game so why not ATLUS?

Also, YES. Persona's good but I definitley prefered Lucifer's Call over P3.

[truegamer12]

they did mention a new Shin Megami Tensei back in 2005 for the ps3 but I don't know what happened to it.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/648/648527p1.html

Personally, though I still think they should stick with the persona series

[Tatsuya]

they did mention a new Shin Megami Tensei back in 2005 for the ps3 but I don't know what happened to it.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/648/648527p1.html

Personally, though I still think they should stick with the persona series

I have to agree with you there, persona is definitely my favorite in the megaten series, that said they should make SMT4 soon, either way i'll buy whatever game comes out next.
The only bad megaten game i've ever seen was shin megami tensei NINE, might be where i got that "atlus japan hates microsoft" thing from actually over something about M$ messing with atlus too much, would explain why that's the only game i know of that atlus japan released on a M$ console, either way take this with a grain of salt.

[Las Lobos]

Did that game even come out? It says they pushed it back but....

[Tatsuya]

Did that game even come out? It says they pushed it back but....

In the U.S.? no, but i have played a little of it.

[Las Lobos]

I know this is off-topic but...

How was it with what little you played?

[truegamer12]

I kinda worried about the next-gen atlus games considering what's already out

[Las Lobos]

Yeah I know that's why I was asking since it's not released in the U.S. and I haven't heard a lick of noise from it since it's info was released.

[Tatsuya]

I know this is off-topic but...

How was it with what little you played?

Think MMORPG without the MMO part, here's a synopsis on it anyway:
http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/megaten/megaten7.htm

[Pibbman]

they did mention a new Shin Megami Tensei back in 2005 for the ps3 but I don't know what happened to it.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/648/648527p1.html

Personally, though I still think they should stick with the persona series

I have to agree with you there, persona is definitely my favorite in the megaten series, that said they should make SMT4 soon, either way i'll buy whatever game comes out next.
The only bad megaten game i've ever seen was shin megami tensei NINE, might be where i got that "atlus japan hates microsoft" thing from actually over something about M$ messing with atlus too much, would explain why that's the only game i know of that atlus japan released on a M$ console, either way take this with a grain of salt.

it wouldn't be the only studio that MS has ticked off in Japan. I know that MS and Level 5 are on bad terms with each other, and I think I recall one other one....but can't think of who it was again.

[Blue Mage]

i know this is a little off-topic right now but...i already have all the consoles but if i didn't i would surely buy the console for P5 like i did for Disgaea 3 :tongue:

[Enzo_Kensei]

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/01/15/persona-5-not-set-in-stone-for-ps3.htm

^This. Try to read this. Clearly no P4Fes but Persona 5 on PS3? Not likely to happen.

" In fact, I’d go as far as to say that Persona 5 is more likely to be coming to PS2 than PS3 if it gets released in the near-future "

[Pibbman]

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/01/15/persona-5-not-set-in-stone-for-ps3.htm

^This. Try to read this. Clearly no P4Fes but Persona 5 on PS3? Not likely to happen.

" In fact, I’d go as far as to say that Persona 5 is more likely to be coming to PS2 than PS3 if it gets released in the near-future "






I'd go as far as to say that persona 5 isn't even in development right now lol. If anything they might have someone just tossing around ideas for a story in their spare time.

By the way, how is this a hint towards PS2?

When Atlus USA was asked in December 2008 about their plans for the Persona series in 2009, they ignored Siliconera’s question, but indirectly hint they’ll continue publishing PS2 games. To quote Atlus’ Aram Jabbari: “*glances at the clock* Oh gosh, look at the time, we’ve really gotta skiddoo. *pushes the production staff toward the door* Thanks again, Spencer, always fun gabbin’ with you! Take care now. All the best!”

I don't see it as a hint towards anything personally.

[Enzeru]

I'd go as far as to say that persona 5 isn't even in development right now lol. If anything they might have someone just tossing around ideas for a story in their spare time.


Yeah, but that probably means any upcoming SMT game that isn't on a handheld will most likely end up on PS2, right?

I just hope I don't have to get a PS3 anytime soon...Maybe next generation, Sony.

[Pibbman]

I'd go as far as to say that persona 5 isn't even in development right now lol. If anything they might have someone just tossing around ideas for a story in their spare time.


Yeah, but that probably means any upcoming SMT game that isn't on a handheld will most likely end up on PS2, right?

I just hope I don't have to get a PS3 anytime soon...Maybe next generation, Sony.

Probably in 2010? The PS2 is being said as a 10 year console by sony, so they'll probably stop production next year. They eventually gotta get the PS2 owners to move over to the PS3 you know.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ I agree. I want to see in the future that Persona 5 will set legendary achievements for the PS2. The last ultimate game before PS2 retires in 2010.

BTW, in a more serious matter, there are really several factors that P5 will most likely be in PS2 than PS3. In terms of popularity, PS2>PS3. Production cost is too high for the PS3, let alone upgrading everything to HD graphics. Lastly, Persona series is never about graphics, its about the story. :smile:

[persona3rocks]

Good point Enzo, i dont plan on gettng a ps3 before 2011. because i just bought a wii so im hopeing there a couple giant blowout games for ps2 im hoping p5 will be in there....

[Ark]

^ I agree. I want to see in the future that Persona 5 will set legendary achievements for the PS2. The last ultimate game before PS2 retires in 2010.

BTW, in a more serious matter, there are really several factors that P5 will most likely be in PS2 than PS3. In terms of popularity, PS2>PS3. Production cost is too high for the PS3, let alone upgrading everything to HD graphics. Lastly, Persona series is never about graphics, its about the story. :smile:

Considering Square is rolling out Final Fantasy in 2010, P5 cant really compete with that. Besides if it was to be released in 2010, there would have been an announcement by now. Games, even ones that lack fancy graphics will take time to work out. I bet the script alone will take a while to work out, and the in game animations take forever to develop unless you have a huge team working on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was on PS3, and if it is I rather see Atlus do their graphics similar to Prince of Persia and Unlimited SaGa.

[Pibbman]

I really...REALLY doubt there'll be another Persona game on PS2. I know a lot of people on here have been clamoring for SMT4, they are probably working on that now.

I don't know if Atlus has just one giant "smt team" or 2 groups, like one group is a skeleton group that works on the next title while the full team finishes the one thats being released next.

[Enzo_Kensei]

To ark: I get your point , but about the announcement thing, its possible that they are on the process of making P5 now. Considering lets say, they have 15 months to do it, they would announce it only when it's nearly complete.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not 100% sure that they are making P5 now, but we can't rule out the possibility that they may be starting now.

As of competition, I think, Persona 4 is not competing with Square's Final Fantasy. Each has it's unique game play to experience although I personally love Atlus games than SE games.

They may say that they haven't made any works as of the moment, but Atlus may surprise us anytime soon.

To Pibbman: That could be the case. We also have to consider Atlus Japan's Team. ^^

[Pibbman]

To ark: I get your point , but about the announcement thing, its possible that they are on the process of making P5 now. Considering lets say, they have 15 months to do it, they would announce it only when it's nearly complete.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not 100% sure that they are making P5 now, but we can't rule out the possibility that they may be starting now.

As of competition, I think, Persona 4 is not competing with Square's Final Fantasy. Each has it's unique game play to experience although I personally love Atlus games than SE games.

They may say that they haven't made any works as of the moment, but Atlus may surprise us anytime soon.

To Pibbman: That could be the case. We also have to consider Atlus Japan's Team. ^^

Pfft, I'm sure this'll ruffle a few feathers but....

SMT games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy

I played a few, and it wasn't anything memorable.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ I agree with you. I certainly like and LOVE SMT series or in general, Atlus. :)

[animeboy12]

Have you guys seen the new FF13 trailer? Sqaure might actually step up there game on this one.

Anyway, now that I think about it atlus was never really a hardware company and still aren't. I'm not staying I don't enjoy there games but there not as technical impersive as others.

It's a shame too because I think there game have such a unique style and it's a shame for them to be held back because of graphics

[Onezanagi]

I own a 360 and a Wii, if P5 was made for the PS3 it'd buy one immediately. I still plan on getting one anyway but P5 would make me pick it up sooner.

[Ark]

Have you guys seen the new FF13 trailer? Sqaure might actually step up there game on this one.

Anyway, now that I think about it atlus was never really a hardware company and still aren't. I'm not staying I don't enjoy there games but there not as technical impersive as others.

It's a shame too because I think there game have such a unique style and it's a shame for them to be held back because of graphics

Its largely because Atlus isn't as huge as studios like Square Enix, Konami, Namco-Bandi, etc so they dont have as much resources to throw around. But then again Naughty Dog is smaller than Atlus and look at the game they have for PS3.

[Las Lobos]

Pfft, I'm sure this'll ruffle a few feathers but....

SMT games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy

I played a few, and it wasn't anything memorable.
mhm agreed, but for me just the majority of ATLUS RPGs are awesomer then FF games.

Also I don't think ATLUS is being held back for anything because of graphics, I'm sure that doesn't have much to do with it it's just a matter of storyboard and all that jazz.

[Enzeru]

Pfft, I'm sure this'll ruffle a few feathers but....

SMT games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy

I played a few, and it wasn't anything memorable.

*lol* I'm loving the DS remakes of 3 and 4. Some of my favorite DS games. Otherwise, not so much. xD

Probably in 2010? The PS2 is being said as a 10 year console by sony, so they'll probably stop production next year. They eventually gotta get the PS2 owners to move over to the PS3 you know.

True...Oh well. Wii 2 is coming out 2011-2012, and same with Xbox720. PS4 shouldn't be too far behind. I can wait a few years.
Or they can go multi-platform. xD

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ are they? Officially? Wii 2, and Xbox 720? DanG!

[Silverback1138]

^ are they? Officially? Wii 2, and Xbox 720? DanG!

Not really, but several sites states reliable rumors about the next systems. Personally, I'm excited about them, but the curren gen systems are great for now considering the shape the economy is in. I'd rather get more great games for a couple more years before the next upgrade.

[Enzo_Kensei]

^ oh, I see. Well, if you ask me though, I think there's still enough time for the current gen. consoles to make more games and their life isn't coming to a dead end as of now.

[animeboy12]

Pfft, I'm sure this'll ruffle a few feathers but....

SMT games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy

I played a few, and it wasn't anything memorable.
mhm agreed, but for me just the majority of ATLUS RPGs are awesomer then FF games.

Also I don't think ATLUS is being held back for anything because of graphics, I'm sure that doesn't have much to do with it it's just a matter of storyboard and all that jazz.



Pfft, I'm sure this'll ruffle a few feathers but....

SMT games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy

I played a few, and it wasn't anything memorable.

*lol* I'm loving the DS remakes of 3 and 4. Some of my favorite DS games. Otherwise, not so much. xD

Probably in 2010? The PS2 is being said as a 10 year console by sony, so they'll probably stop production next year. They eventually gotta get the PS2 owners to move over to the PS3 you know.

True...Oh well. Wii 2 is coming out 2011-2012, and same with Xbox720. PS4 shouldn't be too far behind. I can wait a few years.
Or they can go multi-platform. xD

Gameplay-wise yes Atlus wasn't held-back but story-wise they were to emotionally part is persona 4 that I personally think would've had more impact
has the graphics and animation would've been better.

I understand atlus have always been a gameplay first company and I'm happy with that but I am a little disappoint that a game like MGS2, which came out in 2001 still looks better than P4

[Saburo Hikari]

I understand atlus have always been a gameplay first company and I'm happy with that but I am a little disappoint that a game like MGS2, which came out in 2001 still looks better than P4That game concentrated more on innovative graphics, physics, and stealth game-play. P4 is more text-based, which could mean why they didn't concentrate on the graphics as much. Still yes, it doesn't look as good as SMTIII: N or DDS (I think. I've only watched a few clips.). The graphics of Inaba's scenery, Shadow Teddie and Ameno-sagiri do look great though.

[Enzo_Kensei]

Nah, great graphics or not, it doesn't really matter. How many of those games who have great graphics but failed to win positive reviews? The thing is though, at least Persona 4 has presentable graphics and managed to pull of an amazing review from big gaming sites and magazines. That should do more than enough. In the end, graphics is not a major concern here. Well, its just my opinion.

[x_revenge]

i chose option 3 but it mostly depends on how good it is, if it was p3, i would even consider getting a ps3 to play if it was an exclusive, if it was p4 then no i wouldn't buy a ps3 for just it, its just not worth it unless they bring backwards compatibility back

not to mention i can already play any game i want without a ps3, there's virtually nothing on the ps3 i care about, i laughed so hard when i saw that star ocean 4 was a 360 exclusive (something i was supporting from the start, it was pretty satisfying to see the ps3 fanboys going nuts on the gamefaqs forum after the big reveal)

my guts tell me if a megaten game is released on a next-gen console i'll still be able to play it, and i have a sixth sense for these things (not to mention ffxiii going multi-console so i'll be able to play that, too...although it doesn't seem too good from where i'm standing)

[AC/DCmartin]

Even if I want,I dont have the money to buy a new console(WII-PS3-XBOX360)so I REALLY expect that Atlus have mercy and release all the SMT left in the PS2.After all,the PlayStation 1 and 2 are the consoles where the Persona saga and other SMT sagas grew up,am I right?

[BRASSKNUCKLES]

If it comes out for wii or ps2 im all good.
but if it comes out for ps3 i would go and sell my ps2 and gamecube and as much as i could to get the ps3 and game PERSONA 5 WOOT!!!!???

anyone know when its coming out?

[Las Lobos]

There's really no official news of it being in production, so can't say for sure.

[Pibbman]

If it comes out for wii or ps2 im all good.
but if it comes out for ps3 i would go and sell my ps2 and gamecube and as much as i could to get the ps3 and game PERSONA 5 WOOT!!!!???

anyone know when its coming out?

Pretty sure it's not even in production right now, if anything there might be one guy going over story ideas in his head for the next one.

[truegamer12]

I hope we hear some news this TGS or something

[OgGz]

i dont care what p5 will be on coz basicly id kill for a persona game the other game corps shud just give up and join altus and just make persona games that wud suit me fine

[paradox_20]

yes, but that will take sometime....

[Hellel]

Maybe, it depends on the system it would be on.

[Enzeru]

Yes, I would get my parents to buy me the platform that P5 is on...

Unless I'm living alone by then. That would suck. I'd have to say my own money.

[Fatney]

I voted "Maybe (depends on games etc)", because I think it's idiotic to pay so much for ONE game. And I have many friends with at least two of this generations consoles (one with all three of them), so I bet they'd be nice enough to let me borrow the console for one game.

[obake-no-shadow]

I'd like to buy the console where P5 is on. Hope it's multiplatform.

[Crow T. Robot]

Eh I don't really want a new Persona, not yet; Don't get me wrong I love the Persona series but we just got one last year, I give it another year or so. How bout that SMT 4?

[marche1990]

I voted yes, anyway each console have a good share of games, although I would love that P5 went to Wii (the only console I have, besides the Ps2), if not, well, ps3 would be my next choice, it will give me an excuse to buy the ps3 and valkyria chronicles beforehand xD
both psp and ds come next, and the least desired option is the xbox360

[Soushi_Grapple]

Eh I don't really want a new Persona, not yet; Don't get me wrong I love the Persona series but we just got one last year, I give it another year or so. How bout that SMT 4?

I totally agree with this, however, it seems after 2 or 3 games on one console, the series really needs to catch up with the times, although, I wonder... PS2 was kinda the cellshaded era... do you think theyd make 3-D sprites this go around? (Well, I mean like generic flowy sprites... not that I like them better... I wish some titles would focus more on art than graphics, there really is a difference).

Wii - Depends on the controls. Im not fond of the Wiimote. I also dont own a Wii..
PS3 - This would be fine, but I could play this same game on my 360 w/better graphics... PS3 really needs a niche to put it apart from other consoles. I dont own this console yet, but I want it for a few RPGs on it..

360 - The one next gen I do own, but no internet capabilities... If they release it on here, thatd be the best bet for me.

I see Persona DLC in our future.

[nbinney]

you need an option for people who already own all major consoles.

[Evilkinggumby]

you need an option for people who already own all major consoles.

If you own all three, are you really interested in this poll?

Yeah I could see why they would possibly release a game on all major consoles, but I also see their past business strategy as not really going that route.

I personally would love to see Persona released on ANY console beyond the old gen(ps2/xbox) but thats because I own a xbox 360 and have good friends who own the ps3 and wii. So no matter what I would have access to play it.

I don't see them doing that(multi console release) though. They have been focusing their work lately on portable games, which are smaller, easier to develop, and faster to churn out for almost the same cost as a console game($30 on the dc, $40 on psp, $40 for older ps2 games, $60 for ps3(demon souls). I don't know ho wmuch revenue they make off of those but I know there is a huge demand for portable games in japan due to the horriffic public transit system. :) so I am sure they make a fair shake over there.

What I assume is by keeping their name in the public(and fans) eye by releasing these portable games, it helps cover the dev time to work their way towards a next gen dev kit/engine to use for all next gen games on a single system. Once they develop a "kit" for their individual software teams to work off of, they can begin hammering out TONS of titles with very little dev time required. By goin the way of 1 system they can better focus on getting the ball rolling and moving up to the next level. If they try to build for all systems, they open themselves up to a possibly bigger audience, and profit, but they also risk losses and lots of dev dollars wasted. Atlus takes a lot of risks on their 'niche games' so to balance this, they have to play smart in other areas. by devoting to 1 console, it reduces the risk a bit more.

as well after throwing a half dozen or so games at 1 platform, if they manage to soak up a larger then usual share of sales and success, they can measure if there is itchy demand for them to port stuff to the other console, which, if there is enough potential profit, they may be able to gain the interest of additional companies here in the states to assist atlus usa to begin porting.

either way i bet they'll do great on next gen. I doubt they'll have cutting edge visuals or effects, thats never been their swansong, BUT, the one thing they can get (that few next gen games have now) is LONG well developed games. Folk are getting tired of shucking out $40-$60 for a game that is kool but only lasts like 15-20 hours. And when i say 15-20 i mean PUSHING it, unlocking, exploring, grinding, and taking yer time. How many Atlus games were that short? Atlus has been an excellent source of long fun games, and they'll fill that gap when they hit.

I'll really love it. I don't care how flashy the wrapper is, if the candybar inside stinks... I won't buy from that brand again.