Lets start giving Atlus ideas for Persona 5!

[Eternal Sin]

So far i think it would be wicked if in persona 5 the main character from P3 (Arisato Minato) and P4 (Souji Seta) are part of your party. Of course we'd have to remove their ability to wield multiple personas otherwise the game would break :P I also think it would be great if all dialogue in the social links were voiced, and consider P5 might be on PS3, it could be possible.

What else do you guys think P5 should have?

[James Fiend]

Atlus USA is going to make part five? They are getting awfully cocky if you ask me...

[Eternal Sin]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.

[James Fiend]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until around Final Fantasy Tactics.

[Zephyrous]

I'd rather have Tatsuya and Maya back then Minato and Seta

[persona3rocks]

i just hope it stays on ps2 im not buying a ps3 just for persona 5 even if im in love with the game series.:very_sad:

[Eternal Sin]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until around Final Fantasy Tactics.

well i didnt feel like typing sqaure, but i meant square enix. theyve made a ridiculous sum of final fantasy titles if you include spin offs and psp/gameboy ones.

[James Fiend]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until around Final Fantasy Tactics.

well i didnt feel like typing sqaure, but i meant square enix. theyve made a ridiculous sum of final fantasy titles if you include spin offs and psp/gameboy ones.I see. Well, I hope Atlus USA incorporates your idea for Persona 5. I would be pretty impressed.

[Eternal Sin]

i will CORRECT what i said. I think persona 5 should incorporate the main characters from P2, P3, P4 as bonus party members. Like you have to do a side quest to unlock them. I forgot to include P2 characters because i never played it, sorry :P i only got into Persona at P3

[illogicaldreamr]

In one of the interviews from the article in Play magazine, one of them did mention they had future plans for the Persona series. Be it Persona 5 or something else, we won't know until the future.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

[slayn]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

We're talking about what Atlus USA should do with the Persona series.

[Zephyrous]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

I agree with this. I'd rather see SMT4 or an entirely new SMT spin off series instead of another damn Persona game

[DamnedToBeFree]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

We're talking about what Atlus USA should do with the Persona series.


Oh, right. My bad. :p

[Gen Eric Gui]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

[slayn]

You're forgetting about a little game called Ar Tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica.

[bodrock]

....I need more info on SMT4 now. I agree with everyone else that the Persona series can chill for a little while, but I do want to see how the Social Links ssytem will evolve.

Also, Atlus, plz consider giving some SMT/Persona love to the PSP. ;p

[slayn]

The PSP doesn't need any SMT games. I think you're forgetting about a little game called Mana Khemia: Student Alliance.

[Kakizaki]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until around Final Fantasy Tactics.

Not sure why people still think this. Enix was the larger of the two companies and actually absorbed Square. Not sure what Tactics you are referring to either as the merger didn't happen until around FFTA.

Also, while this type of stuff can be fun for people to speculate about, let's seriously wonder if the developers even look at these comments....Ya know, like Atlus Japan?

[frequency]

I know this thread won't really do anything (Atlus USA != Atlus Japan), but it's fun to discuss nonetheless :p

I'd also like a new SMT instead of another Persona next. But for Persona 5, I want them to make a radical change. As much as I like P3 (I haven't gotten around to P4 yet, so...), I want something other than an updated social sim + dungeon crawler next time. I'm not sure how P4's story is, but P3's, as much as I enjoyed it, wasn't even comparable to P2 for me. So, I guess, I'd want something new, but more in the vein of P2 than P3/P4.

[Olethros]

Atlus USA is going to make part five? They are getting awfully cocky if you ask me...

They sure are, son. They sure are.

[James Fiend]

well its not confirmed but its a possibility. Why do you say they are getting cocky? Enix is on its like 17th final fantasy title.I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until around Final Fantasy Tactics.

Not sure why people still think this. Enix was the larger of the two companies and actually absorbed Square. Not sure what Tactics you are referring to either as the merger didn't happen until around FFTA.

You're right. I thought I had read somewhere that there were references to Ogre Battle in the original tactics due to Enix influence. I learned something today.

[Eternal Sin]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

360 is only getting more titles for 3 reasons, they're cheaper to develop games on, microsoft buys there way out of anything, and xbox has become as popular as god.

The reason why SMT should stay on Playstation is because nobody wants to buy another whole console just to keep up with a series.

Personally i hate the 360, majority of the games on it are glitchy compared to the PS3 counterparts. I hate strongly dislike it because its existence is the reason why the PS3 isnt doing well. Microsoft's fat ass wallet is buying out everything and suppressing the PS3's potential. I have to go buy a damn 360 just to play star ocean 4, i find that pretty gay.

and why is everyone saying they DONT want to see another persona title next? Correct me if im wrong but everyone here was pumped for P4 so why would you rather another SMT title than P5? Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5

[Saishu]

Correct me if im wrong but everyone here was pumped for P4 so why would you rather another SMT title than P5?
No. I bought P4 just 'cause I liked P3, but I'm not really enjoying it.

I got Nocturne after P3 and that was really good so I for one am looking forward to a new SMT.

[James Fiend]

Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5The people who don't want another persona game didn't want to P3 or P4. They don't want to PAnything. They are getting impatient for a true sequel for the original series.

[frequency]

I'm excited about P4. I'm not any less excited because it's out. It's just that it's been 2 (3 if you count FES as different, since it's a different release) Persona games in a row, and they use a similar system.

We haven't had an SMT since Nocturne. I like SMT more than Persona, and it pains me to see 2 Persona, 2 DDS, Devil Summoner, and Devil Children releases since the last SMT. I think it's about time to get the next one, instead of just working on Persona again.

I also want them to really think about P5. To really put some creative effort into it. And that requires time. So, while all that is happening, next SMT please.

EDIT: I did want P3 and P4 though. I just want an SMT now. SMT is the Atlus flagship title is it not?

[RiotJavelinDX]

I'm excited about P4. I'm not any less excited because it's out. It's just that it's been 2 (3 if you count FES as different, since it's a different release) Persona games in a row, and they use a similar system.

We haven't had an SMT since Nocturne. I like SMT more than Persona, and it pains me to see 2 Persona, 2 DDS, Devil Summoner, and Devil Children releases since the last SMT. I think it's about time to get the next one, instead of just working on Persona again.

I also want them to really think about P5. To really put some creative effort into it. And that requires time. So, while all that is happening, next SMT please.

Very, Very True.

[Saburo Hikari]

I also want them to really think about P5. To really put some creative effort into it. And that requires time. So, while all that is happening, next SMT please.That sounds like a great idea. Develop SMT while thinking about P5 once in a while.

As for a P5, I would like to try a female protagonist this time. Like I said someplace else, a change like this would be nice.

[slayn]

360 is only getting more titles for 3 reasons, they're cheaper to develop games on, microsoft buys there way out of anything, and xbox has become as popular as god.

The reason why SMT should stay on Playstation is because nobody wants to buy another whole console just to keep up with a series.

Statement one and statement two do not match up. If the 360 is as popular as god, then it follows that few people would actually need to buy another console if the SMT series moved to the 360.

Quite frankly, the 360 is the smarter choice for Atlus if they plan to have the next big SMT game, be it SMT4 or P5, see a worldwide release. The Wii may have a monstrously large install base, but the numbers seem to indicate the largest market for RPGs is on the 360. The PS3 isn't far behind the 360 (or at all, I haven't looked at those numbers in a while), but as you pointed out, there are a lot of good reasons to go with Microsoft over Sony.

[frequency]

I also want them to really think about P5. To really put some creative effort into it. And that requires time. So, while all that is happening, next SMT please.That sounds like a great idea. Develop SMT while thinking about P5 once in a while.

As for a P5, I would like to try a female protagonist this time. Like I said someplace else, a change like this would be nice.
Ooooh, a female protagonist would be great. If they keep the entire social sim aspect, I'd love to be able to have romantic relationships with the guys next time. But I don't think it will happen, because the majority of the players are male, and the assumption is that they're straight. Some people have enough of an issue playing as a female character, so getting them to buy a game where it's beneficial to court male characters may not work out all too well.

[Eternal Sin]

Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5The people who don't want another persona game didn't want to P3 or P4. They don't want to PAnything. They are getting impatient for a true sequel for the original series.

If you didnt want P3 or P4 then what are you doing on these forums? If you dont like/want this game then it seems really counter productive to come visit/post on this section of SMT threads.

[slayn]

If you didnt want P3 or P4 then what are you doing on these forums? If you dont like/want this game then it seems really counter productive to come visit/post on this section of SMT threads.

He didn't say he personally didn't want any Persona games, simply that older fans of the series would much, much rather see a true SMT sequel than another Persona game.

Edit to toss in my opinion. I loved Persona 3. I'm loving Persona 4. That said, I'd rather see Atlus take a break from the Persona games for a while and give us SMT4.

[Eternal Sin]

ah i see. Well i havent played any of the SMT games but they look really interesting and fun. I personally dont care which comes first; SMT4 or P5. But i would like to see P5 come after SMT 4 at the very least.

Correct me if im wrong, but it seems like persona is one of the more popular series by Atlus right?

[frequency]

ah i see. Well i havent played any of the SMT games but they look really interesting and fun. I personally dont care which comes first; SMT4 or P5. But i would like to see P5 come after SMT 4 at the very least.

Correct me if im wrong, but it seems like persona is one of the more popular series by Atlus right?

Well, I think people talk about Persona more just because it's more recent. SMT is Atlus' main series. They slapped the SMT name onto Persona 3 for a reason. But, yeah, I think Persona is more popular than SMT these days. Persona introduced a lot of people to Atlus, so... a lot of the Persona people haven't played SMT.

So I can see why people would think Persona is Atlus' main title. Since most people have only played/heard of Nocturne, but have already seen 3 separate Persona releases.

[miruki]

I want a heroine too, I think you should be able to chose if you want a male or female protagonist.. *__* so it wouldn't be awkward for guys to play the game since they wouldn't need to chose the heroine and see romantic scenes with the male characters. Tho.. I'd like it if the possibility to date the same gender would return too, not that I'm much into that but, well I just think it should be there.

oh and I would like it on the PS3 too, so I can finally play it in high-res on our big, big tv in the living room.. :D oh oh, and the 3D models should be much more detailed.. preferably cell-shading style ala DQVIII or Rogue Galaxy, yes that would be nice.

Hohoho.. I'm so naive. :D

[frequency]

There are problems with being able to choose your gender though. For example, you'd have to record all lines that refer to "him" or "her" twice (or I guess you can just record "him" and "her" and then edit it into the line, but with voice intonation and stuff, that might just sound awkward). And how about the animated cutscenes? They would have to use the in-game engine for everything.

Being able to date the same gender is still an issue. Because the current system, you want to build relationships. So a male player will still have to court a male character to take advantage of the benefits of social links.

I think guys just have to lighten up already. I court characters of my own gender all the time in various games, but I'm not particularly disturbed by it.

[Flebsqueeb]

If there is a P5, and it is ported to a new system. I could care less about the graphics, "I think" it would be a waste of space. But with all the disk storage on the new-er consoles, I'd just hope for more depth to everything in general. Ex: more time spent in every day, maybe have an actual class schedule, which would make the player feel more immersed if they could keep it interesting every day. Or extend the game wayyy past a semester in high school (assuming that this P5 project takes place in a school environment). And as for getting old cast members to join your party, I'd rather not it remind me of anything. But instead be fresh.

There's a lot to improve on, but honestly. I could do without persona for a while. If a P5 is announced, I'd have a hard time getting excited for it.

[unknown]

Bring back Demon Negotiation, Strike, Pierce, Slash, Earth.

[ArmedDragoon]

Persona needs a break. Seriously. Especially when Persona 4 just came out stateside. It's times like this that the downsides to a niche series becoming popular are growing ever so apparent...



Of course we'd have to remove their ability to wield multiple personas otherwise the game would break :P


:very_sad:


Bring back Demon Negotiation, Strike, Pierce, Slash, Earth.


Good man. If there's anything I'd want in a Persona sequel, it's a return to the essentials. The lack of Contacts in 3 and 4 depressed me greatly.

[Gen Eric Gui]

You're forgetting about a little game called Ar Tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica.

I don't count crappy shovelware.



The reason why SMT should stay on Playstation is because nobody wants to buy another whole console just to keep up with a series.

Because YOU don't want to buy a new console, you mean? Most RPG fans who own a console own a 360 because that's the system that has them all. I'm sorry you made a poor buying decision, but a lot of people didn't. 360 is the system to develop for if you want to sell an HD-console RPG.

Personally i hate the 360, majority of the games on it are glitchy compared to the PS3 counterparts.

From my experience, most of the glitchy, poor versions of games are on the PS3 because developers don't care since there's a smaller install base and it's harder to program for.

I hate strongly dislike it because its existence is the reason why the PS3 isnt doing well. Microsoft's fat ass wallet is buying out everything and suppressing the PS3's potential. I have to go buy a damn 360 just to play star ocean 4, i find that pretty gay.

No, the PS3 is doing poorly because nobody it's expensive and nobody cares about it's features. MS bought a handful of games that probably weren't going to go to the PS3 anyway, and gay isn't an insult.



and why is everyone saying they DONT want to see another persona title next? Correct me if im wrong but everyone here was pumped for P4 so why would you rather another SMT title than P5? Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5

Because we just got three in a row? Because we like to see the team work on something different? Because, after three games, the ideas are starting to get stale?

P3 and P4 are great, but we want something else now. Most people don't like playing the same things over and over again(Except for FPS fans lololol)

[slayn]

From my experience, most of the glitchy, poor versions of games are on the PS3 because developers don't care since there's a smaller install base and it's harder to program for.

No, the PS3 is doing poorly because nobody it's expensive and nobody cares about it's features.

First point = truth.

Second point = not so much. I love that I have a Blu Ray player that doubles as a PS2. And Valkyria Chronicles is pretty good.

[Eternal Sin]

Dude you don't have to be so defensive, these are meant to be friendly forums. If you want join the "console wars" please go the correct forum. I was voicing my opinion, not seeking an argument. I'm not stupid i know the 360 is superior to the PS3 but it doesn't change my opinion. A lot of the games i want to play are PS3 exclusive, so having a 360 doesn't solve that.

[Zephyr]

Joke thread confirmed.

[cj iwakura]

If P5 makes any improvements, let them branch out the activities more. If I study, I should get to learn things. 'You did so and so' explanations suck.

I'm somewhat tired of the silent protagonist also, but I guess that's a series staple at this point.


If Persona goes next-gen like I expect it to for the next incarnation, they need to pull out all the stops.

And especially a 'reshuffle skills' button for fusion results. That can't be difficult to integrate, and it would save hours.


The return of demon negotiation would be nice, but I can live without it. The shadows in P3/4 are mindless creatures so I can understand it not being a factor.


That's what the new Devil Summoner and the next SMT(get busy, Atlus) are for.

[superbeast1370]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

360 is only getting more titles for 3 reasons, they're cheaper to develop games on, microsoft buys there way out of anything, and xbox has become as popular as god.

The reason why SMT should stay on Playstation is because nobody wants to buy another whole console just to keep up with a series.

Personally i hate the 360, majority of the games on it are glitchy compared to the PS3 counterparts. I hate strongly dislike it because its existence is the reason why the PS3 isnt doing well. Microsoft's fat ass wallet is buying out everything and suppressing the PS3's potential. I have to go buy a damn 360 just to play star ocean 4, i find that pretty gay.

and why is everyone saying they DONT want to see another persona title next? Correct me if im wrong but everyone here was pumped for P4 so why would you rather another SMT title than P5? Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5

well I sure as hell hope it'll be on PS3. I bought all Persona ( and most of the SMT) games on Playstation. if it a SMT game comes out on 360, then it'll be a big no for me. I will not buy another 360. getting screwed several by MS is more than enough. MS are dicks especially that damn MS exec Aaron Greenburg.

[Flebsqueeb]

If your 360 gives you the red ring of death,( ^ not saying yours did, this is just for everyone to use) there is really a simple solution to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avWs4-wD15w

And the bi-weekly maintenance hasn't gotten on my nerves since I started doing it like 6 months ago. It really does work though. Since the huge console update, it hasn't pooped out on me once by the way.

[Frink]

So far i think it would be wicked if in persona 5 the main character from P3 (Arisato Minato) and P4 (Souji Seta) are part of your party.
NO.
5 characters.

[Flebsqueeb]

Oh and I picked this video ^^^^, to show that anyone can do it.

[James Fiend]

Dont get me wrong, im interested in SMT 4 too but i'd rather P5The people who don't want another persona game didn't want to P3 or P4. They don't want to PAnything. They are getting impatient for a true sequel for the original series.

If you didnt want P3 or P4 then what are you doing on these forums? If you dont like/want this game then it seems really counter productive to come visit/post on this section of SMT threads.
My name is not "the people." I quite enjoy the Persona series. I enjoy virtually all the SMT games including the spin-offs, so I think it's probably not counter-productive for me to be on this forum. (Usually.)

[ViolenceJack]

I thought Enix didn't get eaten by Square until Final Fantasy Tactics

Wasnt it the other way around?
Didnt Enix buy Square.

[Kakizaki]

^See my post in this thread VJ. I already mentioned that.

[Futomimi]

I would like another new coat of paint slapped onto Persona 3. Also, we need to be able to summon Jesus with the help of Stalin, but Stalin needs to wear a kitty suit, and speak in sickeningly cutesy puns and random honorifics.

Oh, and I'd like the Press Turn system watered down a little more, please. Maybe it can even be an sRPG with fickle dating sim elements!

[Kakizaki]

^Add the Zodiac and you might be onto something.

[frequency]

If your 360 gives you the red ring of death,( ^ not saying yours did, this is just for everyone to use) there is really a simple solution to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avWs4-wD15w

And the bi-weekly maintenance hasn't gotten on my nerves since I started doing it like 6 months ago. It really does work though. Since the huge console update, it hasn't pooped out on me once by the way.

That never actually worked for me for more than a few days. Maybe I was doing something wrong, but, yeah. I tried a few times.

My fiancee, who is much more technically savvy (and just generally smarter :p) than me, helped me try the penny trick, and it's been working since (like 4 months now), so... If you have the know how, or know someone who does, and the towel thing doesn't work, there are still options... though it voids any warranty you may have, obviously.

Note that after doing the penny thing, we still had to do the towel thing once after. Apparently by making it overheat, it resets something, so even after doing the penny thing, it'll still think it's broken until you make it reset.

I don't really know anything about hardware... Which I guess is kind of strange for someone in my field.

[Al-Kun]

You're forgetting about a little game called Ar Tonelico 2: Melody of Metafalica.

And dont forget Mana Khemia 2 you know!!

Persona 5...
Ummm....
Why not just make a crossover persona from other video games, like Growlanser X Persona, Or Stella Deus X Persona....

[SickleCellAnemia]

I would like another new coat of paint slapped onto Persona 3. Also, we need to be able to summon Jesus with the help of Stalin, but Stalin needs to wear a kitty suit, and speak in sickeningly cutesy puns and random honorifics.

Oh, and I'd like the Press Turn system watered down a little more, please. Maybe it can even be an sRPG with fickle dating sim elements!
OMG DAY ONE!!! =3 =3 =3

[Kakizaki]

Maybe it can even be an sRPG with fickle dating sim elements!

Sega beat them to this years ago with Sakura Taisen.

[Manic Expressive]

Ugh please no characters crossovers unless it's like Hitoshura was in DDS, just a boss.

Why do I get the feeling no future SMT game released will be like Nocturne? If another Persona game is announced before that SMT title that was allegedly for the PS3 is, I think my faith in Atlus will have went kaput.

[Kakizaki]

^I'm still a little in disbelief we haven't seen a port of Soul Hackers.

[unknown]

Everytime someone mentions Soul Hackers and how we'll never get it, I die a little inside ;_;

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Nemissa ;_;

[illogicaldreamr]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

I agree with this. I'd rather see SMT4 or an entirely new SMT spin off series instead of another damn Persona game

Since four is SO many games in a series, right? They better stop churning these games out, it's starting to get like the Tales series.

[Crabman]

I'd like a different battle system. As much as I like the Press-Turn System, it's been in quite a few games now. I still enjoy it's strategy-lite elements (cause I suck at strategy-heavy games), but at the same time, it's time for change for the sake of change.

[illogicaldreamr]

I'd like a different battle system. As much as I like the Press-Turn System, it's been in quite a few games now. I still enjoy it's strategy-lite elements (cause I suck at strategy-heavy games), but at the same time, it's time for change for the sake of change.

Persona uses the Once More system, which is similar to Press Turn. I think it makes the game a little easier, though. Press turn just adds an extra turn when you exploit a weakness, allowing you to only attack 6 times total if everyone exploits a weakness in battle. But with the Once More sytem, when you exploit a weakness, that same person can keep attacking and keep exploiting that same weakness over multiple enemies.

[Crabman]

I can see where you're going, but it's more an iteration than anything else. I mean if you compare FFs there are some pretty substantial differences between combat systems in games. Granted, Atlus probably doesn't have the man power S-E does to create and entirely new system for every game, but it would be nice for something new.

[Balrog]

It would be cool if P5 took place in a nursing home where old people start "mysteriously" disappearing. You could play as some crotchety old man and improve your S.Link with some grandma in a wheelchair(Chariot Arcana). Tartarus could be reskinned to look like a mall which you go to at 5:00 in morning and grind your stats by mallwalking.

[Eternal Sin]

hahaha, replace tarot cards and evokers with pills! the persona's will be your ancestors!

[foolofdeath]

i say they should combine both p3 and p4 in the next persona i say that would be cool and Minato should make a come back also

[James Fiend]

It would be cool if P5 took place in a nursing home where old people start "mysteriously" disappearing. You could play as some crotchety old man and improve your S.Link with some grandma in a wheelchair(Chariot Arcana). Tartarus could be reskinned to look like a mall which you go to at 5:00 in morning and grind your stats by mallwalking.
I assume Death would continue visiting you in your sleep. And the dark hour would be a mysterious hour between 4 and 5 in the morning, where the Old Country Buffet turns into a TGI Fridays.

[Kakizaki]

It would be cool if P5 took place in a nursing home where old people start "mysteriously" disappearing. You could play as some crotchety old man and improve your S.Link with some grandma in a wheelchair(Chariot Arcana). Tartarus could be reskinned to look like a mall which you go to at 5:00 in morning and grind your stats by mallwalking.

Bubba Ho-Tep?

[James Fiend]

It would be cool if P5 took place in a nursing home where old people start "mysteriously" disappearing. You could play as some crotchety old man and improve your S.Link with some grandma in a wheelchair(Chariot Arcana). Tartarus could be reskinned to look like a mall which you go to at 5:00 in morning and grind your stats by mallwalking.

Bubba Ho-Tep?
Nothing about that movie entertained me much except the premise and Bruce Campbell. And sometimes "JFK." I wanted it to be either campier or more serious but I felt like it never was enough of either.

There needs to be more cowboy mummy games though. This would be an appropriate challenge for game development group Atlus USA.

[Kakizaki]

^I was bored by it too honestly. I haven't watched it again since I purchased at its release.

[slayn]

I'm 100% serious when I say that I would buy any game that featured a cowboy mummy in any capacity.

[Gen Eric Gui]

i say they should combine both p3 and p4 in the next persona i say that would be cool and Minato should make a come back also

I have a question for all the people clamoring for Minato to come back.

Did you play finish Persona 3? Or even, you know, get close to the ending in a vague sense? Because if you did, you'd know why having Minato show up in any capacity outside of his own game would -ruin- pretty much the entire point behind the game.

[bluekamikaze]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

[Kakizaki]

^That comment amuses me.

[Olethros]

^ I see what you did there!

[Kakizaki]

Waka, waka, waka!

[dragonlife29]

I believe there should be a Persona 4 sequel! Give me a homosexual relationship! PLEASE!

So unfair T_T Cry moar, etc.

Why is the coolest character into men, but can't be fallen in love with? I was sooooooooooooo disappointed when I was friend zone'd because I thought I did something wrong...but apparently, you can't get with him at all? Man...such wasted potential ='( Curse you, early NeoGAF speculation about a possible gay relationship/S. Link! DAMN YOU!!!! T_T

[James Fiend]

Give me a homosexual relationship! PLEASE!

Alright, fine. I'll be there in fifteen minutes but you BETTER BE READY.

[slayn]

I love this thread.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Everytime someone mentions Soul Hackers and how we'll never get it, I die a little inside ;_;

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/1218605658281.gif

Nemissa ;_;

I just realized that says DEVILSUMMNER instead of DEVILSUMMONER.

Give me a homosexual relationship! PLEASE!

Alright, fine. I'll be there in fifteen minutes but you BETTER BE READY.
HOT!:D:D

[Kenji]

P4's a bit of a special case, since it feels like this is what they would've done if they could've restarted P3's development (not that P3's bad or anything, I love it... but P4 already feels so much more complete and fleshed-out), and they were in a hurry to implement it. I don't think the next Persona would've come out so quickly, if it weren't for that.

Really, I haven't had anything to complain about, but I'd like P5 to be as different from P3 and 4 as those games were from P2... that said, I like how Persona's differentiating itself from SMT, so I wouldn't mind at all if it kept a similar atmosphere.

[Calamari]

Battle strategies are nice, but I wish they could some how incorporate the the formations and rows in Persona 1 and 2. I like how they craftily replaced the negotiations with S-Links tho. Also more customization of your character would nice, a system Like WEWY were you have to keep up with the latest fashion trends.

[Eternal Sin]

it would also be neat to have a.... i forget the name of the combat system... but anyways it would be cool to have a combat system like in kingdom hearts, you'know free roam plus button control. Of course it would probably ruin the persona series doing that.

[James Fiend]

Like WEWY were you have to keep up with the latest fashion trends.

it would be cool to have a combat system like in kingdom hearts...Of course it would probably ruin the persona series doing that.
I don't know if I could disagree more with either of these ideas (except the part where it would ruin the series. I agree with that part).

[Calamari]

Really!? I have yet to see character customization ruin a game, more power to the player IMO.

[ArmedDragoon]

Except TWEWY's fashion trend system wasn't so much character customization as it was an annoying gameplay mechanic.


Persona was never really about customizing anything other than your name and which Persona you use. It was meant to be much simpler than the main SMT series, which has customizing up the wazoo.

[James Fiend]

Customizing is great. Keeping up with fashion trends, kind of obnoxious. The idea that certain kinds of clothes (or armor, accessories, whatever) could boost points for certain social links might be alright.

I hope Aram is writing all this down so his Japanese contact can listen to his suggestions for about five seconds before saying "You bark too much, American dog" and hanging up the phone.

[Olethros]

Like WEWY were you have to keep up with the latest fashion trends.

it would be cool to have a combat system like in kingdom hearts...Of course it would probably ruin the persona series doing that.
I don't know if I could disagree more with either of these ideas (except the part where it would ruin the series. I agree with that part).

Amen, brother James. I would have said the exact same thing if you hadn't beaten me to it.

[slayn]

I hope Aram is writing all this down so his Japanese contact can listen to his suggestions for about five seconds before saying "You bark too much, American dog" and hanging up the phone.

Excuse me, good sir, but I believe that my 200+ hours between Persona 3/FES and Persona 4 makes me quite the expert on the series and Atlus JP should listen closely to my suggestions.

[Heretic]

Excuse me, good sir, but I believe that my 200+ hours between Persona 3/FES and Persona 4 makes me quite the expert on the series and Atlus JP should listen closely to my suggestions.

i put around 400 hours into P4 alone...

does that make me a mega-super-expert!?

:surprise:

:tongue:

[dragonlife29]

Give me a homosexual relationship! PLEASE!

Alright, fine. I'll be there in fifteen minutes but you BETTER BE READY.Thanks for the best four minutes of my life :D



I hope Aram is writing all this down so his Japanese contact can listen to his suggestions for about five seconds before saying "You bark too much, American dog" and hanging up the phone.LMAO, is Aram's contact Tomonobu Itagaki?

[Hermes]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.


Digital Devil Saga? :P

[Hermes]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.


Digital Devil Saga? :P

Not quite. That game was missing a lot of what I liked about the SMT and persona games (like fusions and enemy recruiting). I didn't like the DDS games too much because of their fairly standard RPG style system.

[ArmedDragoon]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.


Digital Devil Saga? :P

Not quite. That game was missing a lot of what I liked about the SMT and persona games (like fusions and enemy recruiting). I didn't like the DDS games too much because of their fairly standard RPG style system.


I thought the entire point behind the DDS series was that it was Atlus's attempt at making a bread and butter RPG with the license. The fairly standard RPG system was intentional.


I'm intrigued by your idea of an idea reversal. There'd be an obvious source of conflict (HUMANS ARE PARANOID AND ONLY JUDGE BASED ON APPEARANCES AND BLAH BLAH BLAH) and we'd get a better idea about how the demons live. Well, other than what we got in SMT II.

[Hermes]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.


Digital Devil Saga? :P

Not quite. That game was missing a lot of what I liked about the SMT and persona games (like fusions and enemy recruiting). I didn't like the DDS games too much because of their fairly standard RPG style system.


I thought the entire point behind the DDS series was that it was Atlus's attempt at making a bread and butter RPG with the license. The fairly standard RPG system was intentional.


I'm intrigued by your idea of an idea reversal. There'd be an obvious source of conflict (HUMANS ARE PARANOID AND ONLY JUDGE BASED ON APPEARANCES AND BLAH BLAH BLAH) and we'd get a better idea about how the demons live. Well, other than what we got in SMT II.

Add in the different factions like you saw in Nocturne and some of the psychodrama of Persona 4, and you've got RPG gold!

Also, I think Atlus could really make a bold statement by having the players start get a feel for the alien mindset of the demons, and have the human antagonists actions seem so bizarre and mysterious (Persona 4 demonstrated wonderfully how they can write a sequence of events to throw off the player and miss the real enemies). That way when the humans' motives are made clear, the player gets a feeling of "oh... that makes perfect sense... that's how I'd act in their shoes" followed quickly by "oh crap... I just agreed that I am the bad guy here."

[ArmedDragoon]

I think it would be interesting for them to make a game (SMT, Persona, or otherwise) that reversed the roles a little. Instead of playing as humans that struggle against/unlock the powers of/ally with the demons, it would be kinda neat to have the game centered on a demon or group of demons. Kinda like Teddie, but more bear-able. The game could easily have the negotiation and a party comprised of monsters aspect of the SMT series, fusions could be a possibility, and I'm thinking a little cannibalism to learn new abilities or develop new traits.


Digital Devil Saga? :P

Not quite. That game was missing a lot of what I liked about the SMT and persona games (like fusions and enemy recruiting). I didn't like the DDS games too much because of their fairly standard RPG style system.


I thought the entire point behind the DDS series was that it was Atlus's attempt at making a bread and butter RPG with the license. The fairly standard RPG system was intentional.


I'm intrigued by your idea of an idea reversal. There'd be an obvious source of conflict (HUMANS ARE PARANOID AND ONLY JUDGE BASED ON APPEARANCES AND BLAH BLAH BLAH) and we'd get a better idea about how the demons live. Well, other than what we got in SMT II.

Add in the different factions like you saw in Nocturne and some of the psychodrama of Persona 4, and you've got RPG gold!

Also, I think Atlus could really make a bold statement by having the players start get a feel for the alien mindset of the demons, and have the human antagonists actions seem so bizarre and mysterious (Persona 4 demonstrated wonderfully how they can write a sequence of events to throw off the player and miss the real enemies). That way when the humans' motives are made clear, the player gets a feeling of "oh... that makes perfect sense... that's how I'd act in their shoes" followed quickly by "oh crap... I just agreed that I am the bad guy here."


I love games that do that, it never fails to make me feel like a jerk.

[Heretic]

the next SMT game should not be console exclusive. every one should enjoy these games. they're amazing!

[mymerrilymemory]

I'd rather have Tatsuya and Maya back then Minato and Seta

Maya Amano: The Senior Years



I wish they would go back to that era of- some evil government/mob boss/ old guy is trying to summon some evil crap to destroy the world instead of......... shadows. Oh no, it is a shadow. How terrifying.

Oh and the fact that you can't customize the other party members personas.
And the lack of demon negotiations.

Compared to the older personas, 3/4 come off as more streamlined 'kid' versions to me.

Honestly I would mush rather have ports of soul hackers and the older devil summoners.

[Eternal Sin]

I'd rather have Tatsuya and Maya back then Minato and Seta

Maya Amano: The Senior Years



I wish they would go back to that era of- some evil government/mob boss/ old guy is trying to summon some evil crap to destroy the world instead of......... shadows. Oh no, it is a shadow. How terrifying.

As much as i agree that shadows lack the sinister feel of true evil, i would greatly prefer shadows over cliche summoning some random evil #### to destroy the world.

I do agree that alot of personas seem silly. Thanatos, orpheus, izanagi, (as a FEW examples) and the well known/liked personae are well designed but some are just straight up queer. Its a shame it takes alot of time to design appealing personae.

Anyways i look forward to SMT 4. I read up on what consists the awesomeness that is SMT and i must say i cant wait to see how far they go with SMT 4.

[Calamari]

Except TWEWY's fashion trend system wasn't so much character customization as it was an annoying gameplay mechanic.

Customizing is great. Keeping up with fashion trends, kind of obnoxious. The idea that certain kinds of clothes (or armor, accessories, whatever) could boost points for certain social links might be alright.

Ya thats what I meant, like if you show up for a date with a classy girl in a hoody and jeans, you wont get the maximum amount of points or you might get lectured and end up with a reversed S-link. I don't even know why I used WEWY as an example, you didn't even get to see your characters walk around in the things you bought.

[Hermes]

I wish they would go back to that era of- some evil government/mob boss/ old guy is trying to summon some evil crap to destroy the world instead of......... shadows. Oh no, it is a shadow. How terrifying.



As much as i agree that shadows lack the sinister feel of true evil, i would greatly prefer shadows over cliche summoning some random evil #### to destroy the world.

I'll admit the Shadows aren't really "evil" in the same sense as summoning Cthulu to eat the world, I really like what they did in P4. They aren't scary in the direct "oh noes it's gonna eat me" kind of way, but in a more subtle, psychological horror. Me being the Jungian-psych-junkie I am liked the Shadows in P4 more than any other persona game. I can't compare it to SMT because it's a different approach. They are literal physical demons and such in SMT, where as Persona makes them more your personal demons.

[Olethros]

Excuse me, good sir, but I believe that my 200+ hours between Persona 3/FES and Persona 4 makes me quite the expert on the series and Atlus JP should listen closely to my suggestions.

i put around 400 hours into P4 alone...

does that make me a mega-super-expert!?

:surprise:

:tongue:

No, it means you got paid to play it.

Or, that you're really, really, really, REALLY sad! :p

[Oksweet]

Why wouldn't Atlus make another Persona? P3 hit it off for them made the series extremely popular imo the franchise is just starting to take off. They're gonna make some serous money...

[Kakizaki]

^No one said they shouldn't but they did suggest it would be nice if Atlus took a break from the series to pursue something else.

I believe Persona was reasonably popular in Japan before P3.

[DivineTrinity]

I think Atlus JP should stop with the Persona series for a while.

I have to agree. They should go back to core series now. Wasn't SMT4 announced for the PS3 back in 2005? We been through P3, FES, P4 and the new Devil Summoner game. What happen to SMT 4? There is no new info at all, is the PS3 hard to develop for and it got cancel?

[Kaibigan]

Here's an idea for Persona 5, Atlus: Don't make it.

[Manic Expressive]

SHUT THE HELL UP RIGHT NOW OR I'LL PUNCH YOU OVER INTERNETS.

[Towel]

Future console SMT titles will most likely be developed for the Wii. Atlus will be able to save a ton of money that way by simply re-using the PS2 engines for another console cycle. With the announcement of DQ11 for the Wii, the system is also ensured a strong JRPG fanebase in Japan.

The 360 has a chance of nabbing the series; but that's only if Microsoft is willing to bankroll the project, as the SMT series does not sell enough copies to re-coup the costs of making a game in HD.

The PS3 doesn't have a chance in hell of getting an installment. No one wants to make a console exclusive for the retard in last place. It's also selling at a slower rate than the Gamecube in Japan. Considering Atlus never developed an Shin Megami Tensei game for the GCN, it's highly unlikely they'll start a vastly more expensive project for a console with lesser sales.

[Kaibigan]

DQ 10, you mean?

[unknown]

If Atlus reuses the same graphics engine, they better make it for the PS2 as well.

[Balrog]

If Atlus reuses the same graphics engine, they better make it for the PS2 as well.

Who do you think they are, Nippon Ichi?

[SickleCellAnemia]

If Atlus reuses the same graphics engine, they better make it for the PS2 as well.

Who do you think they are, Nippon Ichi?

I see what you did there.

[Towel]

If Atlus reuses the same graphics engine, they better make it for the PS2 as well.

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if future titles were multi-platform between the Wii and PS2. The Wii versions will probably have improved performance, like shorter load times, though.

[Heretic]

Excuse me, good sir, but I believe that my 200+ hours between Persona 3/FES and Persona 4 makes me quite the expert on the series and Atlus JP should listen closely to my suggestions.

i put around 400 hours into P4 alone...

does that make me a mega-super-expert!?

:surprise:

:tongue:

No, it means you got paid to play it.

Or, that you're really, really, really, REALLY sad! :p


hey hey hey! i wasn't getting paid to play it! i was getting payed to test it! there was no enjoyment at all throughout the gruesome hours that we put into this bad boy! no enjoyment what-so-ever :D

[ProudClod]

How about, instead of P5, Atlus makes us a Shin Megami Tensei 4? I mean, I love all of the Megaten spinoff games, but I want a nextgen Megaten 4 :)

[ArmedDragoon]

It's nice to see that everyone in this thread has gotten their priorities in order.


Here's hoping that when (not if) Persona 5 comes out, Atlus will have come up with ways to shake up the series even more than they have.

[Las Lobos]

I honestly can see P5 being a PS3 exclusive (yeah I said it) I mean they already have (to my knowledge) one 360 exclusive (if not more) and honestly with developers saying it's hard to work with the ps3 hard ware, it seems to me ATLUS is a pretty smart group to work with it and is willing to do so but to avoid a game console war, I'd say if/when/whatever they make Persona 5 they should make the main character a chick. But I have to agree that they should take it easy on the Persona series, quit while they're ahead. Not that I don't like the series of course I do but still.

[ProudClod]

I honestly can see P5 being a PS3 exclusive (yeah I said it) I mean they already have (to my knowledge) one 360 exclusive (if not more) and honestly with developers saying it's hard to work with the ps3 hard ware, it seems to me ATLUS is a pretty smart group to work with it and is willing to do so but to avoid a game console war, I'd say if/when/whatever they make Persona 5 they should make the main character a chick. But I have to agree that they should take it easy on the Persona series, quit while they're ahead. Not that I don't like the series of course I do but still.

As much as I wish they would make a PS3 exclusive, is it all that realistic? The 360 has A LOT more jRPGs than the PS3. In fact, I can only name 2 exclusive PS3 jRPGs, which is a little sad. The 360 is selling better world wide, and it is gaining quite a bit of pace in Japan. FFXIII is no longer PS3 exclusive. Is it a pipe dream to hope for a PS3 Megaten? Is Atlus going to go with the bandwagon, and develop for 360? I'll follow Atlus wherever they go, but the reason I bought a PS3 (day one), was because I assumed it would be getting a lot of jRPGs. Which it isn't.

[Tsuko]

If Atlus does make a Persona 5 they should return it to its roots with the demon contact system and make a return of Philemon, and please do not use the contract crap that only allows the main character aka silent protagonist only access to the Velvet Room
and please use CG instead of anime for cutscenes and please.... ADD SUBTITLES TO THE CUT SCENES!!!!!!!

[Rocket Science]

If Atlus does make a Persona 5 they should return it to its roots with the demon contact system and make a return of Philemon, and please do not use the contract crap that only allows the main character aka silent protagonist only access to the Velvet Room
and please use CG instead of anime for cutscenes and please.... ADD SUBTITLES TO THE CUT SCENES!!!!!!! I agree with the whole "back to dungeon-crawling" route, but Philemon hasn't been necessary after Persona 2. He was trying to prove that humans could become perfect, and did eventually succeed. It only took the DVA crisis, manipulation of several people, numerous deaths (including total genocide), and the world all but ending twice to do so. It'd be nice to see contacting brought back too. And to be honest, I prefer the anime cutscenes, without the subs. It just makes the game that much more cinematic for me.

I've always thought that P5 should be in the future, involving some sort of MMORPG that in reality has the potential to send people into Makai or something (where they get killed by demons). That way you'd get demons (and contacting) back, the party wouldn't have a freaking clue what to do next, and your mission control could sit in front of a PC/laptop watching them with actual displays and stats from the game showing up on-screen. And the battle music would be techno.

[Megedo Incubus]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

The 360 is only getting these games is because most companies were unsure about the ps3's power when the games were being produced. Now that they have seen it , thanks to MGS 4 and many other games coming out, there's going to be more JRPGs heading to the ps3. And honestly, the ps3 has way better graphics because the 360 is still using HD-DVD's for their games. Toshiba, the major maker of HD-DVDs has stopped production of HD-DVD discs. Blu-Ray has more memory on it and there is no need for compression of graphics on it. I have and play both systems in HD and the ps3 shines way better. If the SMT series wants to keep its ideal of beautiful look and representation, they would be better to go with the ps3.

[Megedo Incubus]

i just hope it stays on ps2 im not buying a ps3 just for persona 5 even if im in love with the game series.:very_sad:

No, you buy a ps3 for all the excellent games that are out or are coming out. I love my ps2 but I love having a ps3 as well. It is worth the money.

[Megedo Incubus]

I think this series needs to let you choose which voice track you want to hear. Having only the English track to hear is annoying. I want to hear what they sound like in Japanese without having to try to import the Japanese version.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Japanese/English audio isn't really a major selling point here, and it just takes up more space on the disc. =/ I personally like not having to read subtitles constantly; most of the time theres only 1 or 2 voices that suck, and theyre usually minor characters.

[dragonlife29]

I think this series needs to let you choose which voice track you want to hear. Having only the English track to hear is annoying. I want to hear what they sound like in Japanese without having to try to import the Japanese version.YouTube?

[Eternal Sin]

The english voices are fine and well done, i'll there are annoying MOMENTS, but im not going to bash the VAs. the english dub is very tolerable, i think you need to be more open minded and accepting, and stop watching so much anime :P j/k

[Manic Expressive]

If Atlus does make a Persona 5 they should return it to its roots with the demon contact system and make a return of Philemon, and please do not use the contract crap that only allows the main character aka silent protagonist only access to the Velvet Room
and please use CG instead of anime for cutscenes and please.... ADD SUBTITLES TO THE CUT SCENES!!!!!!! I agree with the whole "back to dungeon-crawling" route, but Philemon hasn't been necessary after Persona 2. He was trying to prove that humans could become perfect, and did eventually succeed. It only took the DVA crisis, manipulation of several people, numerous deaths (including total genocide), and the world all but ending twice to do so. It'd be nice to see contacting brought back too. And to be honest, I prefer the anime cutscenes, without the subs. It just makes the game that much more cinematic for me.

I've always thought that P5 should be in the future, involving some sort of MMORPG that in reality has the potential to send people into Makai or something (where they get killed by demons). That way you'd get demons (and contacting) back, the party wouldn't have a freaking clue what to do next, and your mission control could sit in front of a PC/laptop watching them with actual displays and stats from the game showing up on-screen. And the battle music would be techno.

He wasn't trying to prove anything in the first Persona and returned. He's most likely gone because he was weakened somehow between the events of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. If Philemon were to return to the series I would want Nyarlethotep to return as well.

[thealchemistoftime]

^ i agree

[Towel]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

The 360 is only getting these games is because most companies were unsure about the ps3's power when the games were being produced. Now that they have seen it , thanks to MGS 4 and many other games coming out, there's going to be more JRPGs heading to the ps3. And honestly, the ps3 has way better graphics because the 360 is still using HD-DVD's for their games. Toshiba, the major maker of HD-DVDs has stopped production of HD-DVD discs. Blu-Ray has more memory on it and there is no need for compression of graphics on it. I have and play both systems in HD and the ps3 shines way better. If the SMT series wants to keep its ideal of beautiful look and representation, they would be better to go with the ps3.

SMT has never been about graphics.

And the reason the PS3 hasn't seen many JRPGs is because it is in last place, and it still is in last place. SMT is not popular enough to re-coup the costs of producing a game in HD, on either of the two consoles. The only way we'll ever see an SMT game in HD anytime soon is if Microsoft bankrolls the project. Otherwise, we're looking at the series going to the Wii, DS, and possible sticking with the PS2 a little while longer.

[Hermes]

If Atlus does make a Persona 5 they should return it to its roots with the demon contact system and make a return of Philemon, and please do not use the contract crap that only allows the main character aka silent protagonist only access to the Velvet Room
and please use CG instead of anime for cutscenes and please.... ADD SUBTITLES TO THE CUT SCENES!!!!!!! I agree with the whole "back to dungeon-crawling" route, but Philemon hasn't been necessary after Persona 2. He was trying to prove that humans could become perfect, and did eventually succeed. It only took the DVA crisis, manipulation of several people, numerous deaths (including total genocide), and the world all but ending twice to do so. It'd be nice to see contacting brought back too. And to be honest, I prefer the anime cutscenes, without the subs. It just makes the game that much more cinematic for me.

I've always thought that P5 should be in the future, involving some sort of MMORPG that in reality has the potential to send people into Makai or something (where they get killed by demons). That way you'd get demons (and contacting) back, the party wouldn't have a freaking clue what to do next, and your mission control could sit in front of a PC/laptop watching them with actual displays and stats from the game showing up on-screen. And the battle music would be techno.

He wasn't trying to prove anything in the first Persona and returned. He's most likely gone because he was weakened somehow between the events of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. If Philemon were to return to the series I would want Nyarlethotep to return as well.

Philemon is in Persona 3, though in a very subtle and indirect way. I forgot the context of it, but I recall a mysterious email (I think involved with the Hermit S Link) from "PHIL." I also could be wrong, but I think it's Philemon's voice in P4 when the MC is first seeing the midnight channel and is hearing a voice calling him the "opener of ways" or something to that extent.

[superbeast1370]

I honestly can see P5 being a PS3 exclusive (yeah I said it) I mean they already have (to my knowledge) one 360 exclusive (if not more) and honestly with developers saying it's hard to work with the ps3 hard ware, it seems to me ATLUS is a pretty smart group to work with it and is willing to do so but to avoid a game console war, I'd say if/when/whatever they make Persona 5 they should make the main character a chick. But I have to agree that they should take it easy on the Persona series, quit while they're ahead. Not that I don't like the series of course I do but still.

As much as I wish they would make a PS3 exclusive, is it all that realistic? The 360 has A LOT more jRPGs than the PS3. In fact, I can only name 2 exclusive PS3 jRPGs, which is a little sad. The 360 is selling better world wide, and it is gaining quite a bit of pace in Japan. FFXIII is no longer PS3 exclusive. Is it a pipe dream to hope for a PS3 Megaten? Is Atlus going to go with the bandwagon, and develop for 360? I'll follow Atlus wherever they go, but the reason I bought a PS3 (day one), was because I assumed it would be getting a lot of jRPGs. Which it isn't.

I can name more than 2 JRPGs for PS3: Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, White Knight Chronicles, and while not an exclusive game, Eternal Sonata is the superior version of the two. and SE is not doing well financially because the games they released on the 360 did not live up the SE's expectations (sales-wise). I wonder if Namco-Bandai is gonna port ToV to PS3...

[slayn]

I can name more than 2 JRPGs for PS3: Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, White Knight Chronicles, and while not an exclusive game, Eternal Sonata is the superior version of the two. and SE is not doing well financially because the games they released on the 360 did not live up the SE's expectations (sales-wise). I wonder if Namco-Bandai is gonna port ToV to PS3...

You named an action game, two strategy games, one RPG that very little is known about, and a game that came out on the 360 first. You followed this by wondering if an RPG that is currently exclusive to the 360 might one day get ported to the PS3.

Yes, the PS3 is certainly the dominant console for RPGs.

[Oksweet]

I honestly can see P5 being a PS3 exclusive (yeah I said it) I mean they already have (to my knowledge) one 360 exclusive (if not more) and honestly with developers saying it's hard to work with the ps3 hard ware, it seems to me ATLUS is a pretty smart group to work with it and is willing to do so but to avoid a game console war, I'd say if/when/whatever they make Persona 5 they should make the main character a chick. But I have to agree that they should take it easy on the Persona series, quit while they're ahead. Not that I don't like the series of course I do but still.

As much as I wish they would make a PS3 exclusive, is it all that realistic? The 360 has A LOT more jRPGs than the PS3. In fact, I can only name 2 exclusive PS3 jRPGs, which is a little sad. The 360 is selling better world wide, and it is gaining quite a bit of pace in Japan. FFXIII is no longer PS3 exclusive. Is it a pipe dream to hope for a PS3 Megaten? Is Atlus going to go with the bandwagon, and develop for 360? I'll follow Atlus wherever they go, but the reason I bought a PS3 (day one), was because I assumed it would be getting a lot of jRPGs. Which it isn't.

Every game the 360 has is playstations imo, beside Halo.....GoW and fable OMG! They shouldn't make multi platform games only exclusives then we can own all 3 consoles and everyone is happy and will shut up about it! And yea P5 and all SMT games should be playstation exclusive.

[Kakizaki]

^How many times can you contradict yourself in basically one run-on sentence?

[Eternal Sin]

Why does everyone argue about the superior console? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Besides, does the fact that people have different taste in consoles than you offend you to the point where you have to jump in and give a full financial analysis to "defend" it? (This is addressed in general, not to a specific individual)

I'd also like to add my opinion: Who cares which console is superior? If i want a game thats exclusive for that console, thats my reason for buying it and liking that console. I don't need, and i really don't like, somebody telling me my opinion is wrong.

[Kakizaki]

^Is that a general comment or addressed towards someone?

[Eternal Sin]

general comment, i should have said that in the comment, i'll edit it.

[persona3rocks]

As much as I like the SMT serious I will not ever go out and buy a console just for a game.
Cuz when I do get around to buying the new console they will just make a new one so there's no point in my opinion. Who need another console i have so many now and I'm not just ganna put one up to gather dust. I just wished Playstation would have stopped on ps2
I understand xbox360 but jeez ps3 and I bet they'll make a ps4 and a ps5. Its never ending!!!:(

[slayn]

Why does everyone argue about the superior console?

I don't argue about which console is superior so much as I come in to point out when people are making blatantly false statements. I have a Wii, a 360, and a PS3, so I couldn't really care less which is the superior console or which system a game comes out on because I'm covered no matter what.

[Eternal Sin]

i understand that man, but im just curious why you actually bother to correct peoples' mistakes? Like, i mean who cares right? I dont know thats just how i am :D

[Oksweet]

^How many times can you contradict yourself in basically one run-on sentence?

Well I guess if your really scrounging for something to say to my comment, I guess I could of a little at the start. The majority of playstation titles are also for the 360. Titles they don't deserve, but playstation is forced to give them to actually be making a profit (DMC4, RE5, FFXII etc.) As for bashing someones grammar over the internet, GG. I'm simply trying to get my point across nothing more. So sorry for not taking the time to write you a perfect novel. I realize this may be your job, to a degree, but seriously.

[Kakizaki]

^I didn't bash your grammar. I questioned how what you have posted previously in this thread made any sense. I didn't have to scour for anything. You flip flopped a handful of times in one small post. I would argue this most recent post in this thread makes little sense as well. Titles they don't deserve? WTH?

On the topic of grammar; how can people get so upset at others when their use of grammar is questioned? It is essential for getting your point across. Do you realize how difficult it can be to make sense out of some of the things that are said here?

I'm not asking for perfection so you can dispense with the snippy comments. I'm far from perfect when it comes to spelling, punctuation, word usage, etc, but at least try. It goes a long way in helping to establish a point or credibility.

[persona3rocks]

thank u very much Kakizaki
im tired of people telling me to capitalize, punctuate and spell right
it makes me angry i dont question them so y do they question me!!!

[Kakizaki]

^You missed the point entirely I take it?


Oh wait...You are being funny?

[slayn]

The majority of playstation titles are also for the 360. Titles they don't deserve, but playstation is forced to give them to actually be making a profit (DMC4, RE5, FFXII etc.)

This is one of the dumber things said in this thread. You can easily turn back the clock a few years and apply that same logic to Sony and Nintendo. This is a business. The point of a business is to make money. The companies involved only care about you as long as you keep buying their products, and if it comes down to keeping a small handful of customers happy by not producing games for a given console, or losing that small handful but gaining a whole bunch more... Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

[DokaponObsesed]

edit - If your posts are getting deleted, there is a point. Drop it and move on. I'm getting quite tired of this. -Kakizaki

[Soushi_Grapple]

persona3rocks, at least you know what a coma, period, and exclamation mark are. <-- general comment towards posters anywhere with bad grammar. I think its a matter of laziness really. How hard is it not to write in complete l33t and throw in a few dots so your thought is coherent?

As far as the game being on nexgen, I dont see why Persona couldnt afford 5 to be on the next gen when P3 has a multitude of spin off media and P4 has done well also. They both did well in the US which is almost just as important, because that means even more profit. It has never been about graphics, true true. =)

Nonetheless, that isn't the point of this topic.

I'd like to see a mixture of new and old features for the next title. Go further back to its roots with the Rumor system, but stick with the S-Links as well. I prefer the SMT style dungeon over P3/P4, but... oh well.

[persona3rocks]

No, apparently I missed the point entirerly! Kakizaki sorry bout that! I was kind of agreeing with you.

[Kakizaki]

^My point was that grammar is important. I have a hard time understanding why people can't comprehend that.

[persona3rocks]

Oh im sorry, I wasn't trying to be funny. I thought your point was that grammer wasn't important. Sorry about the mis-understading Kakizaki.

[Ari]

Ah, well, it seems Kakizaki is hard at work.
You guys work him pretty hard form what i've seen in this thread..


This topic is kind of spinning out of control, this isn't a thread about about the Xbox 360 or the Playstation 3 and which one is better or which one deserves certain titles.It clearly reads "Let's start giving Atlus ideas for Persona 5!"
If you wish to argue about this by all means, please do, but the "Off topic" sub-forum is thataway.
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Let's try not to stray to far from the main subject.

Anyway...
As for Persona 5, i'm thinking Atlus should view the serie another way..
Hm..
Maybe something like you're a being similiar to Teddie who all of a sudden appears in the human world with no memories of his/her past, deviod of human emotion.As you make social links you grow as person and those social links strengthen your resolve to push forward.
Aleast it seems like a nice idea to me. :p

[James Fiend]

Oh im sorry, I wasn't trying to be funny. I thought your point was that grammer wasn't important. Sorry about the mis-comprehension Kakizaki.
So much for your theory that good grammar fosters understanding, Kakizaki. I'm swimming in the deep end of a pool filled with irony.

As for Persona 5, I would like it on the Wii but wouldn't cry if it were on the DS. Unless Atlus intends to really overhaul the series, it would probably be more comfortable on the Wii then the 360 or PS3.

[Kakizaki]

^lol. Well, maybe that should be commentary on my own grammar.

[Sseklebeast]

I want SMT4 on next gen and I want NOW!!! :P

[Kaibigan]

Since this needs to get back on track, I'd like to say again that ATLUS shouldn't bother making a 5th, at all.

[Ari]

^ I see no reason to say it again when when it's already been said quite a few times in this thread.

Being so i'm viewing it from a "What if" angle.
As in /IF/ they made a Persona 5.
All of this is basicly a "what if" thread, seeing as no new Persona are in the near or somewhat distant future.

I'd be in no rush for another Persona as i'm pretty content with Persona4.

Still, some people can hope.

[Kaibigan]

I insist. It's reason enough.

[Ari]

^ Ah, i see, oh well.
I guess i'd have to agree with you anyway since i have that growing doubt of a new Persona game in the back of my mind.

[ProudClod]

Very sorry for starting a console war on here.

I was just hoping that an SMT game IS released on PS3 one day or another. Though it wouldn't be the end of the world if they went to 360. Like I said, I'd follow Atlus wherever <3.

Can we stop with the "this console a is better than console b" bull####? What do you have to gain personally, by devoting your time and energy into dissing consoles you don't own? A lot of ####ing nothing.

Point being is, let's all share some Atlus love, and get back on topic :)

[slayn]

I agree. We should institute a rule saying you can only speak negatively about a console if you own all of that generation's consoles (so this would be retroactive for any Genesis/SNES veterans).

With that in mind...

Wii is for kids.
Xbox 360 more like Xbox 3####ty (it breaks a lot you see)
PS3 has no games.

:)

[James Fiend]

^ Ah, i see, oh well.
I guess i'd have to agree with you anyway since i have that growing doubt of a new Persona game in the back of my mind.
You agree that there shouldn't be another one because you don't think there will be another one?
And wait, why wouldn't there be another one? I'm not sure I get the logic that Atlus wouldn't follow up on their most successful series (spin-off series, whatevs).

[Emilio Morales]

I want to see, the use of tarot cards to summon Personas! :D Maybe if they can fit the same gameplay of P2 and add things like the S. Links and Date Sim then I would be happy enough, I also want to see the contact and rumor system again.

[Megedo Incubus]

I think this series needs to let you choose which voice track you want to hear. Having only the English track to hear is annoying. I want to hear what they sound like in Japanese without having to try to import the Japanese version.YouTube?

I meant I would rather hear the original voices while playing it. I know you can listen to it on youtube but that doesn't help much when you are playing the game and not online.

[Megedo Incubus]

Minato showing up in anything ever would defeat the entire point of P3.

And why does everyone assume the game will be on the PS3? 360 is the system getting all the JRPGs. And lol @ the series staying on the PS2. System is dead, son. P4 is pretty much it's last twitch before rigor sets in.

The 360 is only getting these games is because most companies were unsure about the ps3's power when the games were being produced. Now that they have seen it , thanks to MGS 4 and many other games coming out, there's going to be more JRPGs heading to the ps3. And honestly, the ps3 has way better graphics because the 360 is still using HD-DVD's for their games. Toshiba, the major maker of HD-DVDs has stopped production of HD-DVD discs. Blu-Ray has more memory on it and there is no need for compression of graphics on it. I have and play both systems in HD and the ps3 shines way better. If the SMT series wants to keep its ideal of beautiful look and representation, they would be better to go with the ps3.

SMT has never been about graphics.

And the reason the PS3 hasn't seen many JRPGs is because it is in last place, and it still is in last place. SMT is not popular enough to re-coup the costs of producing a game in HD, on either of the two consoles. The only way we'll ever see an SMT game in HD anytime soon is if Microsoft bankrolls the project. Otherwise, we're looking at the series going to the Wii, DS, and possible sticking with the PS2 a little while longer.

And just why is it in last place? 1. The Wii is a family console and not for hardcore gamers only. It has a lot of features that everyone will love about it. The system itself is marketed as a family console.
2. The price. The ps3 may be the most expensive system, but it is guaranteed to have everything it is supposed to. The 360 base system that is $199 has no hard drive in it. Marketing ploy anyone?
3. The game companies signed the contracts for many games to be developed for the other systems BEFORE the ps3 was even out. Meaning that the chances of it having been done on the ps3 too were slim to none. However, if a company wants to put out a version of one of those games on the ps3 later they can. It was done with BioShock, which had new stuff done for the ps3 version.
4. ps3's library is still small but is beginning to have some of its bigger titles out. MGS4 is out now, GOW 3 is coming out within the next year, and there are many more exclusive titles that sony is landing now. 2009 may be the turnaround year for the ps3 in terms of sales.
5. I agree with you about the popularity of the game not being where it could be. However, you cannot deny that the series has grow tremendously over the past 3 years because of P3 and now P4. More people that play rpgs or just love gaming will look at what the high ratings on the reviews on these games and will want to try it to see if it is really that good.
Sony is the ones that makes the final decision on when the ps2 is completely done. If they decide that the ps3 is the console they want the next installment of the SMT series for playstation to be on, we have to deal with it. I love playing my ps2 and will keep playing may of the games I have for it.
6. Microsoft can try it if they so wish, but the 360 cannot compete with the ps3 when it comes to definition onscreen. Hear me out. Sony knew they were doing the smart thing when they went with BluRay. They knew that it gave them more freedom to let the detail of the work shine without having to compress it so it would fit on the disc. You get a better quality overall. Games on the other two systems have to compress the work so it will fit. It makes the quality drop because of it. If they had went with BluRay for the beginning you would see many of these games as they were meant to be seen.

[dragonlife29]

Sony is the ones that makes the final decision on when the ps2 is completely done. If they decide that the ps3 is the console they want the next installment of the SMT series for playstation to be on, we have to deal with it. I love playing my ps2 and will keep playing may of the games I have for it.
What? I don't claim to know what Atlus Japan's status as a developer is, but if they're independent, they decide what games go on what consoles--not Sony, Nintendo, and what have you.

[Manly Biceps]

I think a Persona 5 would definitely need a stronger main character. Like a really buff guy. He should moderate a video game forum as part of the game. And then he'll go inside the forum world and use his Persona to beat the crap outta users who get out of line.

[mAn-kAt]

This probably has been said and also, this idea would take so much memory for the game to the point of where the game wouldn't have that much extra to do (Unless you didn't show the MC inside a Movie sequence). Anyways, my idea would be have different character models for the MC. What I mean is that either allow you to create the MC from select body parts (You pick the Torso for Holidays and Sundays, you choose what his face looks like etc.). There are major flaws with this idea, but it is just a thought.

That Idea, or at least have a choice of picking a Male or a Female (That would take less memory than my other idea).

[Megedo Incubus]

Sony is the ones that makes the final decision on when the ps2 is completely done. If they decide that the ps3 is the console they want the next installment of the SMT series for playstation to be on, we have to deal with it. I love playing my ps2 and will keep playing may of the games I have for it.
What? I don't claim to know what Atlus Japan's status as a developer is, but if they're independent, they decide what games go on what consoles--not Sony, Nintendo, and what have you.

I'll agree with you on that. I don't know Atlus' status either. I meant that if Sony is still wanting the series to be on their system they would more than likely go on to the ps3. It would be another way for them to sell more ps3's. Yes, Atlus would make the decision on if they wanted to stay involved with Sony or not.

[dragonlife29]

stuffMultiple discs FTW/L?

[mAn-kAt]

stuffMultiple discs FTW/L?

I never really thought about putting the game on multiple discs. That would solve the memory issue (I am going on a limb saying that it would take a lot of memory). Though most people do like the fact that the main character appears in the Movie cutscenes (Like the Movie when you start a new game), so Drawing the main character with all his costumes would be a pain to get on the game (You could draw the character in his School Uniform, but as said in Persona 4, when you are in your uniform on a non-school day, you get looked at weirdly).

So, to answer your idea of Multiple Discs FTW/L, I really think it could go both ways. Also, when you quoted my post, my mind was trying to find where I said "Stuff".

::EDIT::
After re-reading what I posted, I really didn't answer the question of Multiple Discs all too well. The only problem with Multiple Discs would be that the changing of the discs location would feel awkward (you get to July 13 and you go to bed, CHANGE THE DISC. well, something along those lines). You do get the ability to negate memory restraints (Though after think about it, the PS3 and the 360 could probably handle something with this memory without hitting multiple discs. I don't know about the Wii though).

[dragonlife29]

Haha, the "stuff" was just my condensing your entire post.

:P

Anyway, the only point I agree with you on is the choice of playing as male or female. Though, that would mean they'd have to alter S. Links slightly, I think, depending on how they'd want to go about it.

EDIT: 360 and Wii use the same DVD format--DVD9.

[mAn-kAt]

Haha, the "stuff" was just my condensing your entire post.

:P

Anyway, the only point I agree with you on is the choice of playing as male or female. Though, that would mean they'd have to alter S. Links slightly, I think, depending on how they'd want to go about it.

EDIT: 360 and Wii use the same DVD format--DVD9.

It wouldn't be too hard I would think. Some Script changes here and there for either bein Male or Female and the Main Character could be seen in Movies (it would still be a pain to do it, but it would be worth it).

[Soushi_Grapple]

2. The price. The ps3 may be the most expensive system, but it is guaranteed to have everything it is supposed to. The 360 base system that is $199 has no hard drive in it. Marketing ploy anyone?


Um... it does come with the HDD. The used ones at that price don't come with one, but the Holiday Arcade Bundle does come with it. =)

[Kaibigan]

2. The price. The ps3 may be the most expensive system, but it is guaranteed to have everything it is supposed to. The 360 base system that is $199 has no hard drive in it. Marketing ploy anyone?


Um... it does come with the HDD. The used ones at that price don't come with one, but the Holiday Arcade Bundle does come with it. =)

The 360 base system that is $199 has no hard drive in it.

[James Fiend]

I think a Persona 5 would definitely need a stronger main character. Like a really buff guy. He should moderate a video game forum as part of the game. And then he'll go inside the forum world and use his Persona to beat the crap outta users who get out of line.
Freakazoid? That never did get a crappy video game.

[Kakizaki]

I think a Persona 5 would definitely need a stronger main character. Like a really buff guy. He should moderate a video game forum as part of the game. And then he'll go inside the forum world and use his Persona to beat the crap outta users who get out of line.Only if the mod can once again negotiate with demons, skills are reinserted back into the battle system, and his elemental attacks can't simply be "blocked". :P


Also, not sure I understand the point of this thread any longer. We already have a SMT / console war thread.

[Al-Kun]

Ummm.... I want the designer still be Shigenori Soejima, 'coz i dont really like Kazuma Kaneko's drawing....

[slayn]

Ummm.... I want the designer still be Shigenori Soejima, 'coz i dont really like Kazuma Kaneko's drawing....

.....

[Vigiliance Aurelious]

No No lawl... They should NOT stop making persona series.. =o
It IS a addicting xD I guess and it must be on PS2 =(
and yeah I hope the persona 5 main character has its own name and VOICE =/
yesh voice.. xD and and the secret boss will be IGOR XD

[Fuyukaze]

I would like another new coat of paint slapped onto Persona 3. Also, we need to be able to summon Jesus with the help of Stalin, but Stalin needs to wear a kitty suit, and speak in sickeningly cutesy puns and random honorifics.

Oh, and I'd like the Press Turn system watered down a little more, please. Maybe it can even be an sRPG with fickle dating sim elements!

I will support this idea only if all the main charcters are killed off within the first 20 minutes of gameplay. No, not the world, just the main Charcters. Also, We'd need to be able to have more gods hunting people down. Maybe some norse or greek gods.


Eh, as everyone who's followed the SMT main series already knows, it takes forever for a new game in the series to be released. It took how long between the super famicom releases to the PS2 release? All that time in between and all we get are a bunch of damn re-releases and If. Is If even part of the main series even? I figure we still got another 3-5 years before they release SMT 1-3 LE and another 7-10 before we see SMT4. Inbetween that time, maybe we'll get a SMT:What? or a SMT:Who? or some other odd named game with a question mark at the end. Till then, guess we play what they do release or play something else.

[slayn]

I vote for SMT: Then.

[dragonlife29]

Ummm.... I want the designer still be Shigenori Soejima, 'coz i dont really like Kazuma Kaneko's drawing....wat...

[Asch]

I'd like the next Persona game to have less Pop and Hip-Hop music and maybe music more similar to Digital Devil Saga. I'd also like the Social Links to play less of a role in the next Persona game.

[Oksweet]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

Well it would start off alright because the MC is a chick. Then we'd have to start going out with guys, and that would not be very cool.

[BornofFire_420]

I would like to see Persona 5 set in a college university. You could choose what frat you want to join and what you want to major in. By choosing your major it would give you a different ending.The ending we be how you choose to live your life.

Atlus also needs to make the sitution with your girlfriends better. If yyou choose girl A then girl A will sit with you at lunch. Also by choosing girl A your friends will know you are dating each other and be like So your dating girl A and make unique scenarios for that girl. Also by choosing what girl pick it will give you a unique ending. You guys get married or something.

[James Fiend]

I would like to see Persona 5 set in a college university. You could choose what frat you want to join and what you want to major in. By choosing your major it would give you a different ending.The ending we be how you choose to live your life.

Atlus also needs to make the sitution with your girlfriends better. If yyou choose girl A then girl A will sit with you at lunch. Also by choosing girl A your friends will know you are dating each other and be like So your dating girl A and make unique scenarios for that girl. Also by choosing what girl pick it will give you a unique ending. You guys get married or something.

But aren't we just playing Tokimeki Memorial at this point? I have set the volleyball, let's see who spikes it.

[ProudClod]

I would like to see Persona 5 set in a college university. You could choose what frat you want to join and what you want to major in. By choosing your major it would give you a different ending.The ending we be how you choose to live your life.

Atlus also needs to make the sitution with your girlfriends better. If yyou choose girl A then girl A will sit with you at lunch. Also by choosing girl A your friends will know you are dating each other and be like So your dating girl A and make unique scenarios for that girl. Also by choosing what girl pick it will give you a unique ending. You guys get married or something.

But aren't we just playing Tokimeki Memorial at this point? I have set the volleyball, let's see who spikes it.

A dating sim is a dating sim, no matter which way you look at it. A huge part of Persona 3/4 is dating -- why not make it the best it possibly could be? I am also thinking the Highschool setting is becoming a little stale.

What i also really like about his suggestion, is the idea for social links to affect the ending. No more of these b.s. un-necessary bad endings through one dialogue choice. Persona 4 made it even worse, with trial and freaking error, and having to traverse through a million lines of text if you want to get the normal ending. I would like to see the choices i make throughout the game (not on just one night) affect my ending, and for there to be multiple true-type endings (of the same magnitude and length, just different outcomes).

[Gen Eric Gui]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

Well it would start off alright because the MC is a chick. Then we'd have to start going out with guys, and that would not be very cool.

I fail to see the issue with this scenario.

lol @ insecure guys.

[Sei]

Also, not everyone playing the game is a guy!

[Eternal Sin]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

Well it would start off alright because the MC is a chick. Then we'd have to start going out with guys, and that would not be very cool.

I fail to see the issue with this scenario.

lol @ insecure guys.

It has nothing to do with being insecure or not. I just do not have any interest or desire to date guys, in fact it turns me off. If you call that insecure, then i guess only gay males are "secure"

[SickleCellAnemia]

Is If even part of the main series even?
I think it is.

[BornofFire_420]

I had another crazy thought. How about Persona 5 set in a catholic school with nuns? I think that would make for a twisted story.

[Oksweet]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

Well it would start off alright because the MC is a chick. Then we'd have to start going out with guys, and that would not be very cool.

I fail to see the issue with this scenario.

lol @ insecure guys.

It has nothing to do with being insecure or not. I just do not have any interest or desire to date guys, in fact it turns me off. If you call that insecure, then i guess only gay males are "secure"

Holy crap someone stuck up for me! But yea thats what I'm talking about, I'm not into guys.....it would just be weird. If The main character was a chick and you could date other chicks! That would be awesome.

@ Sei: But lesbians are more accepted in todays society then gays. Just as long as they're two hot lesbians that is.

[dragonlife29]

Jesus. ####ing. Christ. ^

Well, I laughed, at least..

[SMTPersona4ever]

LOL I seriously hope Persona 5/ SMT 4 comes back to the ps2 also... Or maybe even the PC because I only own these 2 systems.... I don't even want SMT/Persona games on DS or PSP.. But anyways I really like the idea about having social links to change the ending.. Oh also who would like Persona 5/ SMT 4 on PC? Its been a VERY long while since the PC had much/ any nice JRPGs at all.. What do you guys think?

[mAn-kAt]

The best advice i can give is "If it isn't broke don't fix it" Cause the games are great the way they are.. a choice between a male and a female protagonist is a great idea..

Well it would start off alright because the MC is a chick. Then we'd have to start going out with guys, and that would not be very cool.

I fail to see the issue with this scenario.

lol @ insecure guys.

It has nothing to do with being insecure or not. I just do not have any interest or desire to date guys, in fact it turns me off. If you call that insecure, then i guess only gay males are "secure"

Holy crap someone stuck up for me! But yea thats what I'm talking about, I'm not into guys.....it would just be weird. If The main character was a chick and you could date other chicks! That would be awesome.

@ Sei: But lesbians are more accepted in todays society then gays. Just as long as they're two hot lesbians that is.

I think that if you could control a female MC instead of a Male, would be awesome and to some extent, revolutionary. Most dating sims that I have heard of/played, you have been a male dating women, and picking a women (I have tried the other types of dating sims that I will not speak any more of. I am a bad person). If P5 were to switch the roles where you were the female and you dated guys, I would feel ok with (If you think of the first Fox Social Link request, they could have it to where the male Social Links send you love letters, which would be so cliche it would be in some ways, awful). But then again, this is only my opinion.

@Oksweet: Lesbians are more accepted because of the facade men put on. You see more men putting on the tough guy, manly facade and supporting male on male relationships can be seen as weak. Most women probably wouldn't care if the man supporting male on male relationships, but if you are out with the guys and they saw that, you will probably lose whatever spot you have inside the group.

I have a feeling that the above paragraph is going to get me bitched at from more than one person, but it happens. Also, that above paragraph may make no sense, then I have made a complete ass out of myself.

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@SMTPersona4ever: Given the time from that was between Persona 2 (Both of them) and Persona 3, the PS2 will more than likely be outdated and what not (I can't say the PC will, because the PC is never outdated, only the parts). The Gap between Persona 3 and Persona 4 seemed short, but the quick release of Persona 5 surprised me. On with something that matters. Persona 5 on the PC would probably look beautiful (Hell, if Persona 4 was on the PC it would look beautiful) and it probably wouldn't sell badly either (At least I don't think it would). I would still be a little skeptical due to the reason that it would be on the PC and most people don't really want a single player RPG on the PC, when they could have access to MMOs and Online FPS'. But this is only my opinion.

[DamnedToBeFree]

That thread has gone beyond retarded. Lock plz.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I facepalmed so hard I gave myself a minor case of whiplash.

The hilarious thing is that you all keep bringing up this concept of male x male relationships, when, uh, there hasn't been anything of the sort mentioned! We're talking about a scenario where the main character is a girl, and she would be dating guys. That's not a gay relationship, friends.

The fact that you are so unsettled by this means that you are scared of it, you're scared that in the act of roleplaying as a girl and watching her date men in a normal manner, that this will somehow make you gay, which is hilarious. And that means you're insecure. I'm a guy and perfectly straight and I see no problem in playing a game where I was a girl dating guys.

Drop the macheesemo act, and maybe you'll start having some fun with the idea.

And yeah, I kinda have to say that this line:

But lesbians are more accepted in todays society then gays. Just as long as they're two hot lesbians that is. Is so hilariously offensive to so many groups of people that I really don't think there's anything I can say about it to make you look more like an ass. Although, I do find it funny that you think that all girls playing the game and going for romance relationships with the in-game girls are lesbians. I'd like to hear your side of this, and how you arrived at that viewpoint. I'm genuinely curious.

Damned: The topic was pretty retarded to begin with, if you think about it.

[Kakizaki]

I was cool with this thread meandering all over the place, but now it is getting totally nonsensical. Locked.