Persona 4 General Discussion

[Ike.]

Anybody else catch Serph from Digital Devil Saga on the train in the opening cinematic?

[Pinny]

Not asking for spoilers of course, and sorry I can't answer you, Ike, I don't wanna spoil P4 for myself, even if it does happen to be a little detail.

How do you tell foggy days from cloudy days? Apart from the obvious "foggy days makes it hard to see" thing.

[Ike.]

What I posted isn't really a spoiler, just something to watch out for.

And I don't know. I haven't gotten that far yet. :( I had to drop in the middle of the first boss fight because I had to go to work.

[earl437]

Not asking for spoilers of course, and sorry I can't answer you, Ike, I don't wanna spoil P4 for myself, even if it does happen to be a little detail.

How do you tell foggy days from cloudy days? Apart from the obvious "foggy days makes it hard to see" thing.

It's Foggy after it rains.
So, the foggy day will be the day it Rains, Noticeable by the raining icon on the forecast.

I am going to like the Foggy Day Cycle opposed to P3's Full Moon Cycle

[Pinny]

Sigh...When they said P4 was going to a bit harder than P3 I was glad, but now I see it's true colors: It's "The Answer" hard, and "The Answer" retarded.

I like playing tough games, and like having to use some strategy, but when bosses start being able to 2 shot everyone at once at half health, that's when things get stupid.

Oh yes, and now knocking down enemies doesn't do a thing besides set up all out attacks...Pretty useless to use weaknesses in boss fights to keep, say...A helper enemy from healing the boss now, good job.

So yeah, I guess I'm just going to start playing any new persona games on beginner mode now...I'd rather not, but there is no strategy or "chance to win" against a boss that goes "omg I'm at half health, AoE 200+ damage attack on everyone. You only have 100-140 hp max though? Too bad"

I know it's probably not Atlus USA's fault though, I'm not blaming them.

[TheMagicHat]

Just beat the first boss myself and it was simple enough. Though I haven't hit the first real dungeon...

Still, the dialogue in this game is great! I love some of the choices your character gets.

[persona3rocks]

:o:surprise::p:grouphug:i cant wait to play tomorrow
:seesaw::D

[earl437]

Just beat the first boss myself and it was simple enough. Though I haven't hit the first real dungeon...

Still, the dialogue in this game is great! I love some of the choices your character gets.

The game gets ALOT harder in the first dungeon...
:(

[Zephyrous]

Do you have to go back to the start of the dungeons every time you want to save? I haven't seen a single save point inside one yet. Surely there is an easier way than back tracking to save and going all the way through it again to get where you where

[Sseklebeast]

Wow, I just died on the first dungeons boss... lol omg I'm loving it.

[earl437]

Do you have to go back to the start of the dungeons every time you want to save? I haven't seen a single save point inside one yet. Surely there is an easier way than back tracking to save and going all the way through it again to get where you where

Teddie give you an Item that will allow you to go back to the entrance. You can also buy them in the Shopping District (It is called GoH-M)

When you leave a Dungeon and reenter it you have an option of starting at floor 1 or the last floor you were on.

I really like the fact that this game has more than 1 dungeon like in P3.
Tartarus was cool but, I really wanted more than one simple tower dungeon.
This game offers a different dungeon for each of the foggy/sunny day cycles.

<3 P4

[Zephyrous]

Do you have to go back to the start of the dungeons every time you want to save? I haven't seen a single save point inside one yet. Surely there is an easier way than back tracking to save and going all the way through it again to get where you where

Teddie give you an Item that will allow you to go back to the entrance. You can also buy them in the Shopping District (It is called GoH-M)

When you leave a Dungeon and reenter it you have an option of starting at floor 1 or the last floor you were on.


Oh okay thanks. I forced myself to the 10th floor fighting all the bosses on the way in one sitting and was running low on sp and items so I was getting worried I'd die and lose all that work

[Gen Eric Gui]

Sigh...When they said P4 was going to a bit harder than P3 I was glad, but now I see it's true colors: It's "The Answer" hard, and "The Answer" retarded.

I like playing tough games, and like having to use some strategy, but when bosses start being able to 2 shot everyone at once at half health, that's when things get stupid.

Oh yes, and now knocking down enemies doesn't do a thing besides set up all out attacks...Pretty useless to use weaknesses in boss fights to keep, say...A helper enemy from healing the boss now, good job.

So yeah, I guess I'm just going to start playing any new persona games on beginner mode now...I'd rather not, but there is no strategy or "chance to win" against a boss that goes "omg I'm at half health, AoE 200+ damage attack on everyone. You only have 100-140 hp max though? Too bad"

I know it's probably not Atlus USA's fault though, I'm not blaming them.

I think it's funny that you claim to like games where you have to use strategy to win and yet manage to completely skip over how the strategy in this game works.

You CAN stun enemies and make them lose their turn. You simply have to hit them in their weakness twice to do it. It's done this way specifically so you CAN'T just go "lol hit an enemy in his weakness every turn and he can't ever hurt me lol". You have to totally sacrifice your turn to do it now.

As for the enemies who do so much damage, it's called Buffs and Debuffs. A single Tarunda can cut enemy damage of all types by 25% or more. Stack that with Rakukaja and you can cut damage to almost nothing. And considering that even your starting persona has 2 buffs and a debuff, it should be pretty obvious what to do.

tl;dr: Learn how to play the game before you complain about the lack of strategy plz.

[Juanblue85]

fought the first boss sure liked how he used a lot of bad words. lovely.

[talos-izanagi]

I don't get P4 till tomorrow, it's not too bad but if it doesn't work for my PS3 I'm going to be super-pissed.

[Juanblue85]

I don't get P4 till tomorrow, it's not too bad but if it doesn't work for my PS3 I'm going to be super-pissed.

Um dude I am playing P4 on my 80 GB PS3 that has BC but there are 80 GBs on the market that have no BC.

[superbeast1370]

I don't get P4 till tomorrow, it's not too bad but if it doesn't work for my PS3 I'm going to be super-pissed.

Um dude I am playing P4 on my 80 GB PS3 that has BC but there are 80 GBs on the market that have no BC.

I'm playing this on my 60GB PS3. 100% full BC. upscaled to 720p. looks pretty damn good. it's good to be an early adopter. and Persona 4 looks pretty awesome (not bad at all) in Widescreen (stretched, not anamorphic). Persona (4) is my kind of game because I LOOOOOVVEEEE Rainy Days :P

[Eternal Sin]

I don't get P4 till tomorrow, it's not too bad but if it doesn't work for my PS3 I'm going to be super-pissed.
hell yeah.

[Eternal Sin]

Sigh...When they said P4 was going to a bit harder than P3 I was glad, but now I see it's true colors: It's "The Answer" hard, and "The Answer" retarded.

I like playing tough games, and like having to use some strategy, but when bosses start being able to 2 shot everyone at once at half health, that's when things get stupid.

Oh yes, and now knocking down enemies doesn't do a thing besides set up all out attacks...Pretty useless to use weaknesses in boss fights to keep, say...A helper enemy from healing the boss now, good job.

So yeah, I guess I'm just going to start playing any new persona games on beginner mode now...I'd rather not, but there is no strategy or "chance to win" against a boss that goes "omg I'm at half health, AoE 200+ damage attack on everyone. You only have 100-140 hp max though? Too bad"

I know it's probably not Atlus USA's fault though, I'm not blaming them.

I think it's funny that you claim to like games where you have to use strategy to win and yet manage to completely skip over how the strategy in this game works.

You CAN stun enemies and make them lose their turn. You simply have to hit them in their weakness twice to do it. It's done this way specifically so you CAN'T just go "lol hit an enemy in his weakness every turn and he can't ever hurt me lol". You have to totally sacrifice your turn to do it now.

As for the enemies who do so much damage, it's called Buffs and Debuffs. A single Tarunda can cut enemy damage of all types by 25% or more. Stack that with Rakukaja and you can cut damage to almost nothing. And considering that even your starting persona has 2 buffs and a debuff, it should be pretty obvious what to do.

tl;dr: Learn how to play the game before you complain about the lack of strategy plz.

i like the sound of this! in P3 on the hardest setting, all i had to do was be about 5-10 levels higher and i was garunteed victory.

[Ike.]

Teddie keeps screaming at you to use the Defend command for a reason, folks!

[persona3rocks]

ok so in the game we only have a limited time in the tower and the days nomore laligaging

[RedWizard]

Hi there. I don't know if Atlus staff is reading this particular thread, but I had a bad disc when I got my game from Gamestop. The PS2 said "Please insert Playstation or Playstation 2 disc." After trying several other PS2 games that did work, I returned the game to Gamestop for an exchange. When I was there, the staff mentioned that another customer returned a bad game disc. I checked gamefaqs, and some people have been getting bad discs. So, there may be a problem with how the discs were pressed for some batches.

My second copy works now.

[persona3rocks]

you know how mad ill be if i start playing mine and it freezes i will beat someone:devil::tongue::D

[persona3rocks]

do we have a limited amount of hours to finish this or not cuz m not tha far and ive ben taking brakes

[earl437]

do we have a limited amount of hours to finish this or not cuz m not tha far and ive ben taking brakes

No, there is a limited number of in game days though.
Each in game day has an infinite amount of hours, except doing actions makes the day proceed on.

[Mokkun]

I got my persona 4 with pre-order artbook today sadly my guide book is comming a bit later the box my game came in seemed big enough for both the game, artbook and guide ah well I just like to say, "Thank you so much Atlus for bringing this over the pre-order artbook is very nice again thanks you guys for working on this game I give it a 10/10." =)

I also got the official design works artbook lots of nice sketches and stuff I can't wait to play P4 I only played a little of the first part I'm almost done with P3 so after that it's all P4 for awhile.

Oh and Ike thanks for posting that I'll have to check out the opening cinematic again I didn't notice.

[Tsuko]

Persona 4 is so much fun way better then P3

[persona3rocks]

yes it is and way more challenging

[persona3rocks]

im in love


with a video game and its never felt this right lol

[frequency]

Are any of you playing it on a PS3? Is it fully backwards compatible? Any glaring issues?
I'd like to finally be able to put my PS2 away. It's taking up a lot of space that I'd rather use to properly space out my current gen consoles.

[Ike.]

It works fine on my friend's 60 gig.

[persona3rocks]

y doesnt my health and sp restore after i leave tv land

[earl437]

y doesnt my health and sp restore after i leave tv land

Becuase unlike in P3 there is no Stamina which mean you can explore the TV world for as much time as you want. In P3, your characters would get tired if you explored too long.

This game would be too easy if your HP and SP were healed after returning to the entrance.

[persona3rocks]

so after i fought the first shadow it restored versed the guys shadow and now im out of the tv world and normal world and its still not restored

[earl437]

so after i fought the first shadow it restored versed the guys shadow and now im out of the tv world and normal world and its still not restored

Well you don't really need Max HP in the real world anyways. It automatically restores itself after you go to bed.
RPG tip: 1 Night of sleep will heal any wound you have.

[unknown]

I wish they'd give you a warning when you're about to fight a mid-level boss >_>

Almost lost 2 hours of grinding at Yukiko's Castle, I now appreciate status boosting spells and teammate blocking a whole lot more.

[Sakubo]

I wish they'd give you a warning when you're about to fight a mid-level boss >_>


They gave you a warning. The you feel a presence behind the door, are you sure you wish to enter is a dead give away your going to be fighting a boss. The only real difference is that in persona 3 there was save points before all the boss mobs, even mini boss ones and here so far I have only see it on the real "boss" But I have only just finished the first castle so I dont know what the later areas are like.

[Aegis Ages]

I really like how the protagonist is a bit more belivable. I like how the mysterious voices cause him pain. I was always wondering if in P3 he was having any ill effects from a weird voice just messing with him. I always had the feeling he was going to go insane or something.
It's better with P4 to me.
I haven't succesfully saved Yukiko yet. Just on the 3rd floor I think. Are the social links good? I haven't really encountered any except the magician, fool, and chariot yet.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I really am loving this game so far, although the bosses are giving me a few problems, even on Beginner (in it for plot). I just need to level some. ^_^ The main part giving me problems are the ones with no weakness whatsoever where they have high HP. Its just luck/waiting it out.

One of my other problems is money, but I can always go train more or go to work for that...

BTW, Ike. can't wait to go back and look at that "spoiler" you posted. <3

[persona3rocks]

i just beat shadow chie thought i was ganna die to but didnt

[persona3rocks]

is fog the weird looking cloud on the weather forcast

[earl437]

is fog the weird looking cloud on the weather forcast

No, Fog only happens after it rains for more than 2 days.

[Soushi_Grapple]

I got past Kanji's section, but still can't beat the first optional boss >:p

[persona3rocks]

i cant findthe key to the door in the first castle to beat the shadow ugggggg
how do i do the spoiler thing on the forum

[persona3rocks]

did anyone notice the basketball player. he kinda looks like the main character from p3 i think he does.

i think his name was kou ichijo

[Syra]

Loving the game so far. Just cleared Kanji's dungeon, and I must say this challenge is a bit to adjust to. P3 had it's moments, but 4 does a lot better at keeping that feeling of desperation going. Whats more, Kanji's shadow had to be the first time since Legend of Dragoon that the guard command in an RPG was amazing. From one shot game over, to laugh it off and media? I'll be using that a lot more, that's for sure.

I do miss being able to choose my own weapon though. Sure, I'd probably use two handed swords anyway, but I liked that feature, every new game+ in P3 I'd use a different weapon.

Overall, P4 seems to be a most notably improved experience. There are a few elements that are gone from 3 I miss, but nothing that really harms the experience. I can see myself clocking in another hundred or more hours on it, that's for sure!

[TheMagicHat]

Just beat Yukiko's dungeon. I was right: I am so much more in love with this games cast than I ever was with P3s. They don't feel like the usual over-the-top anime archetypes you'd find in most JRPGs these day, they actually feel like people I know! Even Teddie has some great moments thus far and he's the most cartoonish of them all.


I do miss being able to choose my own weapon though. Sure, I'd probably use two handed swords anyway, but I liked that feature, every new game+ in P3 I'd use a different weapon.
Personally, I like the fact that the MC just has a single weapon type this time. Having to select a favorite weapon from all the ones available in P3 was just too damn tedious. Yay for golf clubs! :D

[thinkfreemind]

So I tried playing the game in my 80 GB (MGS Bundle) PS3 today, but it had a problem. At the bottom right of the screen there were these two bars, one black and the other yellow, which remained empty. It wasn't until I put the game in my PS2 that I realized they were the location description bars. It's not that big of a deal, but this is enough to make me play it on my PS2 instead, which does stink just a little bit since I've been looking forward to using my PS3 again.

Oh well.

[Marlonbr]

WoW, guys. I'm lovin' the game too! I just beat the the first boss in EXPERT mode. But, geez, reading some posts in this thread made me a little anxious... Is the game that hard?!
Sheesh, guess I have to play and check for myself. =P
And, BTW. Don't you guys think Yosuke is amazing? Man, I really like his style!

[Soushi_Grapple]

Im at Rise and beat the first opt boss <3 Beginner mode isnt that bad, about the difficulty I wanted for an RPG ^_^

[jerpar]

I can't wait for Christmas!!!!!!

[Eternal Sin]

Im at Rise and beat the first opt boss <3 Beginner mode isnt that bad, about the difficulty I wanted for an RPG ^_^

Fail, :P. How can you enjoy an RPG if you power through it so quickly? Waiting since May seems hardly justified if you beat it in a few days :P Well, i dont really know what im talking about; i have no idea what order Rise is in, and dont tell me :P But what do you think of the game? Meets all your expectations?

[DokaponObsesed]

edit - Dude, instead of asking people about the games, go to Atlus.com and look at the games' websites. Either that or use a search engine or try Gamefaqs. - Kakizaki

[talos-izanagi]

consider it null since it works like a freaking dream on my PS3 and surprisingly enough I liked Teddie's voice WAY MUCH MORE that damn Fuuka

[System_Error]

What is persona 4 anyway??? :question:
Can't tell you, you're too young.

[frequency]

consider it null since it works like a freaking dream on my PS3 and surprisingly enough I liked Teddie's voice WAY MUCH MORE that damn Fuuka

60GB? 80GB?

I've been hearing the 80GB PS3s have an issue with the bottom left corner (I think), where the location is supposed to be shown. That alone would make me play on my PS2 instead.

Oh and I hated Fuuka's voice too...

[talos-izanagi]

consider it null since it works like a freaking dream on my PS3 and surprisingly enough I liked Teddie's voice WAY MUCH MORE that damn Fuuka

60GB? 80GB?

I've been hearing the 80GB PS3s have an issue with the bottom left corner (I think), where the location is supposed to be shown. That alone would make me play on my PS2 instead.

Oh and I hated Fuuka's voice too...

I just checked and it was a 80 gig....go figure :/ anyways yeah Fuuka's whiny voice can Fuuka off!

The reason why I said if Persona 4 didn't play properly I would be pissed was because it happened to my Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of memories where I had to download a save to get it work.......damn tutorials......

[frequency]

consider it null since it works like a freaking dream on my PS3 and surprisingly enough I liked Teddie's voice WAY MUCH MORE that damn Fuuka

60GB? 80GB?

I've been hearing the 80GB PS3s have an issue with the bottom left corner (I think), where the location is supposed to be shown. That alone would make me play on my PS2 instead.

Oh and I hated Fuuka's voice too...

I just checked and it was a 80 gig....go figure :/ anyways yeah Fuuka's whiny voice can Fuuka off!

The reason why I said if Persona 4 didn't play properly I would be pissed was because it happened to my Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of memories where I had to download a save to get it work.......damn tutorials......

Haha, I had that same problem with KH Re:CoM. So I'm playing on my PS2 instead.

I just want to put away my PS2 already ¬.¬ I have to lay the thing down on its side, so it takes up a considerable amount of real estate on my console table.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Im at Rise and beat the first opt boss <3 Beginner mode isnt that bad, about the difficulty I wanted for an RPG ^_^

Fail, :P. How can you enjoy an RPG if you power through it so quickly? Waiting since May seems hardly justified if you beat it in a few days :P Well, i dont really know what im talking about; i have no idea what order Rise is in, and dont tell me :P But what do you think of the game? Meets all your expectations?

Im actually enjoying it more playing through it quickly. It helps that Ive got about five other games Im working on waiting in the back (Digital Devil Saga 2, Persona 2, Star Ocean First Departure (bonus dungeon), Growlanser III, Xenogears, lol..), but I also planned a New Game + for this one, and the only other game I ever did a New Game + on was Chrono Cross.

Also, I gotta enter the Luminous Arc 2 contest, but the plot is hard to get through its so dull compared to the first game. Im just not enjoying it much. Ive got Infinite Undiscovery at Xmas...

Finally, SO2 PSP comes out at the end of January.

I convinced my Mom to let me take a semester break from college classes (and considering our circumstances its easier if Im home to babysit anyway) so Ive got a ton of free time too lol

[talos-izanagi]

consider it null since it works like a freaking dream on my PS3 and surprisingly enough I liked Teddie's voice WAY MUCH MORE that damn Fuuka

60GB? 80GB?

I've been hearing the 80GB PS3s have an issue with the bottom left corner (I think), where the location is supposed to be shown. That alone would make me play on my PS2 instead.

Oh and I hated Fuuka's voice too...

I just checked and it was a 80 gig....go figure :/ anyways yeah Fuuka's whiny voice can Fuuka off!

The reason why I said if Persona 4 didn't play properly I would be pissed was because it happened to my Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of memories where I had to download a save to get it work.......damn tutorials......

Haha, I had that same problem with KH Re:CoM. So I'm playing on my PS2 instead.

I just want to put away my PS2 already ¬.¬ I have to lay the thing down on its side, so it takes up a considerable amount of real estate on my console table.Square should've tested more thoroughly I mean it's the freaking PS3, someone should have found out about it already.....

[BaizDaza]

Are any of you playing it on a PS3? Is it fully backwards compatible? Any glaring issues?
I'd like to finally be able to put my PS2 away. It's taking up a lot of space that I'd rather use to properly space out my current gen consoles.

What version do you have? I heard it works well with 60 gig.

Oh and for the boss fight... The first one wasn't even hard. The boss on the 8th floor however is a different story. She f'd up my party bad...

Got past it though, and that's where I shut it down last night. I'm going to the soccer practice next time I pick it up.

[Eternal Sin]

Wait wait, so KH RE: Chain of memories does NOT work on 80 Gig PS3? Or does it work with a small glitch? My P4 doesnt display location but im smart enough to figure out where i am lol

[frequency]

Wait wait, so KH RE: Chain of memories does NOT work on 80 Gig PS3? Or does it work with a small glitch? My P4 doesnt display location but im smart enough to figure out where i am lol

You can't get past the tutorial. It doesn't recognize that you've done what it tells you to do for some reason. But apparently there are save files out there you can download that are right after the tutorial. I opted to play on my PS2 instead.

[Eternal Sin]

oh, i see. what if i beat the tutorials on PS2 then transfer file to PS3? Think that would work? I cant try it out right now since im obsessing over P4 :P (and hate managing more then one game at a time)

[frequency]

oh, i see. what if i beat the tutorials on PS2 then transfer file to PS3? Think that would work? I cant try it out right now since im obsessing over P4 :P (and hate managing more then one game at a time)

Yes. If you have that memory card reader thingy (which I don't), then you can play until after the tutorial on your PS2, and then transfer the save file onto your PS3.

[Eternal Sin]

EDIT: Could anyone be so kind and tell me where i can buy HP restore items? The pharmacy is closed, Junes only lets me explore TV, and the only thing i can find is a steak shop and a vending machine. Just so you know i started yesterday and im only at Yukiko's castle so far.

[unknown]

There's a store right next to the weapon store.

[Soushi_Grapple]

The store for items (when you find it) also has a capsule machine (only able to open on rainy days) and a soda machine. Stock up on soda! <3

[Saburo Hikari]

Anyone who doesn't think Nanako is absolutely adorable deserves to be shot by a deadly weapon that isn't an Evoker.

Oh, and I love the soba scene so far.

[earl437]

Anyone who doesn't think Nanako is absolutely adorable deserves to be shot by a deadly weapon that isn't an Evoker.

Oh, and I love the soba scene so far.

Funny. I love the scene where Teddie proves to be the greatest character ever.

He single handedly defeats Rise's Shadow

[Gen Eric Gui]

Devil arcana Slink is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Best Slink ever.

[persona3rocks]

whos it with

[Zephyrous]

whos it with

Not sure if it'd be considered a spoiler but just in case

The nurse at the part time hospital job

and yeah, defiantly the best slink I lol'd when it was the devil too

[persona3rocks]

ys it so funny i guess i have to wait and see

[superbeast1370]

Question? Where the hell can I increase my courage?

[Zephyrous]

Fighting the optinal bosses and getting a part time job that increases courage. (if there aren't any listed yet there will be soon)

[superbeast1370]

Fighting the optinal bosses and getting a part time job that increases courage. (if there aren't any listed yet there will be soon)

which one did you get? or is there only one PTJ? I need it ASAP...in the game...I already have a FTJ in real life :P

[Gen Eric Gui]

The only PTJ that increases Courage is the Hospital, which doesn't open until 5/25 and requires at least level 2 Diligence.

Other ways to boost Courage are to buy the "Men's Life" books from the bookstore and read them at night, or to eat strange things in the Fridge.

IIRC there's a meal at Aiya two times a week that boosts Courage, and their Rainy Day special boosts three random stats that are NOT Knowledge. So you should be able to boost it there too.

[Kain Mare]

Oh and for the boss fight... The first one wasn't even hard. The boss on the 8th floor however is a different story. She f'd up my party bad...

Yea.... that was a challenging Boss fight. D: I'm currently trying to defeat the Shadow Boss in the same area. On my first try (main levels at 15) I managed to get it down 3/4 health before the main character died. D:

[Eternal Sin]

you mean the one at Y's castle?

[persona3rocks]

that was an easy fight. hey sin u ever get your artbook

[persona3rocks]

does anyone know the fusion for jack frost

[Gen Eric Gui]

It's just a basic Magician fusion. There's a chart in your manual.

[persona3rocks]

i dont understand the table explain plez:question:

[Eternal Sin]

that was an easy fight. hey sin u ever get your artbook

against all odds, yes i did. The UPS package delivery service lost the box with the art books, thats why we never got them earlier.

[persona3rocks]

oh thats good then:D how far are u

[Eternal Sin]

im taking my time and enjoying it :D im almost done the bath house dungeon (kanji's). Im trying to bump up my character stats but its going slowly :( Im level 26. How far are you? / what level?

[persona3rocks]

im on 5/09 like a week past yukikos castle thing and im level 16 not so good :frown:
but i have like aton of social links

[Eternal Sin]

nice man! dont you find level grinding to be fun!? :D By the way have you looked through your artbook? Im trying to restrain myself is so hard :P

[persona3rocks]

of course i looked at it theres only maybe 5 or six spoliers and there not even that grand just shows u whos shadow is who and i think the last battle dudes

oh and i love level grinding its amazing way more fun than p3.

[Eternal Sin]

hehe yaaa, battles are more fun because they added a ton of things. I especially like the new "1 more" system. In P3 it was too easy to win, just exploit a weakness and all out attack. But at least now if you want to keep enemies down theres more strategy involved.

[persona3rocks]

exactly:agree:

[persona3rocks]

man something happened and i lost power for like 5 seconds and lost a whole hour of grinding

[Eternal Sin]

>_< that sucks. i lost an hour of grinding a few days ago when i got to the miniboss. it raped my team

[persona3rocks]

lol so u dont have school today im guessing

[persona3rocks]

where do i find the boy in the hat nauto

[Eternal Sin]

naoto is in junes on sunday, tuesday, or thursdays

[Soushi_Grapple]

I guess Im a litle underleveled. I had to use 3 Moon Tsukahimes (sp?) for the Pixel/game dungeon boss. >>; Mostly because he kept killing my MC though.

[MirageEchoSuicideSquaddie]

K-K-K-Kanji Breaker

[illogicaldreamr]

I haven't started playing the game yet since I have a huge back log of games I'd rather finish first. I have, however, been rocking the soundtrack.

I can't the song "Heartbeat,Heartbreak" out of my head.

"heartbreak, heartbreak, you tell me goodbye!"

[dragonlife29]

I haven't died on normal enemy encounters, nor lost any grinding progress :D

I definitely can't wait to play this game again, but on Expert! With P3, I finished it just the once and never felt compelled to play it again...but P4 is so much better in just about every way that it makes me want to play it again--and I'm not done yet!

[Marlonbr]

DragonLife, why didn't you start playing on expert in the first place? Just like me. =P
And the the game's story is indeed interesting. I wonder who the killer might be...
Now that I gave some thought about it, I think Adachi's the culprit. He's a guy like "Hello. I worth nothing", and that's very suspicious for me. Well, who knows. :P

[Eternal Sin]

I WARN YOU ALL!!! STAY AWAY FROM WIKIPEDIA!! It essentially ruined the plot with the first sentence.

[Marlonbr]

^Wow, man, now you sure gave me the creeps!!!!
But you made me curious too! Oh noes...
Nah! I don't wanna spoil my fun! So go to hell, Wikipedia! :P

[Hermes]

I had to use a moon tsuko-thingy in a regular fight once. Enemy advantage with 5 monsters, all of them used Ziodyne on MC. My teammates took hits 2-4, but the last one killed me before I could take any actions.

It sucked.

[Heretic]

I WARN YOU ALL!!! STAY AWAY FROM WIKIPEDIA!! It essentially ruined the plot with the first sentence.

indeed. i got it spoiled for me too. it was still interesting to see how it all turned out though

[Eternal Sin]

True but i can usually determine the conclusion before it happens. And judging by the spoiler, i think (for once) i might of actually got a surprise this time. So thats why im disappointed.

by the way, what is this moon tsuki thing people are talking about?

[Eternal Sin]

"OH! Is that a HARD ROCK? Wait just a moment!"

That line made my day, i love the weapon store :D

[Enzo_Kensei]

I WARN YOU ALL!!! STAY AWAY FROM WIKIPEDIA!! It essentially ruined the plot with the first sentence.

Thanks a lot! I was gonna check Wiki. Damn them, "this ain't a show!, wiki get bend!" ^^

[Eternal Sin]

So uhh does anyone know WHY Rise's persona (Himiko) gets stats? I mean its never in combat so what difference does it make? >_>

[BornofFire_420]

Persona 4 is one of the best RPGs I played in a long time. It is far superior to Persona 3. The camping trip and the club scene was made of win. Now if we can bribe Atlus into translating the new Devil summoner game. Pay raise and a 2 week paid vaction. Plus sweet sweet love on top of copies of Persona 4. You know you want it!

[Hermes]

Persona 4 is one of the best RPGs I played in a long time. It is far superior to Persona 3. The camping trip and the club scene was made of win. Now if we can bribe Atlus into translating the new Devil summoner game. Pay raise and a 2 week paid vaction. Plus sweet sweet love on top of copies of Persona 4. You know you want it!

Seconded.

[superbeast1370]

Persona 4 is one of the best RPGs I played in a long time. It is far superior to Persona 3. The camping trip and the club scene was made of win. Now if we can bribe Atlus into translating the new Devil summoner game. Pay raise and a 2 week paid vaction. Plus sweet sweet love on top of copies of Persona 4. You know you want it!

Seconded.

Third. plus I'll send several packs of beer just to get the new Devil Summoner.

[Gen Eric Gui]

So uhh does anyone know WHY Rise's persona (Himiko) gets stats? I mean its never in combat so what difference does it make? >_>

I actually want to know this too. Why do I have to click through 3 stat boost messages every time she levels up if her stats aren't relevant to anything?

[MirageEchoSuicideSquaddie]

because you're a stupid foreigner who doesn't 'get' it

[Soushi_Grapple]

DragonLife, why didn't you start playing on expert in the first place? Just like me. =P
And the the game's story is indeed interesting. I wonder who the killer might be...
Now that I gave some thought about it, I think Adachi's the culprit. He's a guy like "Hello. I worth nothing", and that's very suspicious for me. Well, who knows. :P

That was my friend's guess as well... >> Im already past that part, so I already know who it is. =p

Sucks about Wikipedia.

I still haven't played Devil Summoner, even though I have had a copy for awhile. X.X

[kelvinc]

All I have to say is this: I just reached July 10, and the new look is blowing my mind.

PS: "Don't fight over me, baby" just made my day.

[Eternal Sin]

haha, i definitely get a few laughs out of this game. Todays funny moment: Listening to Shadow Yukiko rant about how she'll destroy and kill me, first turn of the fight she dies in one hit from brave blade :P

[Gen Eric Gui]

Anybody else catch Serph from Digital Devil Saga on the train in the opening cinematic?


I just watched the opening, and I didn't see him anywhere. Where is he specifically?

[kelvinc]

Teddie: "Wow, this tastes awful!"

I swear I'd hug the stuffing out of that bear one day. :D

[jin07]

How do you go on dates with the various girls? I got into a relationship with Yukiko, but I didn't have any date options. I recall one time after I maxed her social link, there was a SL icon above her. However, it didn't feel like a date, we just went back to the MC's home. Yes, yes I know. Anyway, is this the typical date in Persona 4? Just going back to the MC's home.


Also, what's the point of using Mind Charge/Power Charge? I know it increases your attack once, but wouldn't it be better to simply attack twice? Is the reason why so many people like this skill is for times when casting the spell twice costs more than Mind Charge/Power Charge + spell?

[Pibbman]

How do you go on dates with the various girls? I got into a relationship with Yukiko, but I didn't have any date options. I recall one time after I maxed her social link, there was a SL icon above her. However, it didn't feel like a date, we just went back to the MC's home. Yes, yes I know. Anyway, is this the typical date in Persona 4? Just going back to the MC's home.


Also, what's the point of using Mind Charge/Power Charge? I know it increases your attack once, but wouldn't it be better to simply attack twice? Is the reason why so many people like this skill is for times when casting the spell twice costs more than Mind Charge/Power Charge + spell?

Sadly, the "dating" is nothing like it is in Persona 3, where you can give them presents and the sorts. At least for Yukiko it was, and I believe the same applies for Chie. Not sure about others though.

As your question about the charging. I've thought of that too. For example I noticed in a battle while using chie, doing the god's hand attack, she'd do about 250 dmg. But when I did a power charge before hand, it's about 530 dmg, which is roughly about doing the attack twice. However, if you have her power charge, and then use Heat Riser on her, her attack can go up to as high as 800 dmg. It really depends on how you do it. Some Personas are strong against physical attacks.

Im not sure what you're asking about in the last part though?

[jin07]

Ah. That's unfortunate about the dating. I saw some of the dates in P3 and they looked like fun.

I was wondering if the reason why people like it is for powering up high SP spells. For instance, suppose you want to cast Niflheim on an enemy. You could:

1. Cast Niflheim twice: 48 + 48 SP
OR
2. Cast Mind Charge and then Niflheim: 15 + 48 SP

Both would probably do around the same damage. However, the 2nd options costs fewer SP. Hence, it would save you SP using Mind Charge.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Mind/Power Charge increases the raw power of the attack by 2.5, so it's more than double the potential damage. So it's both cheaper AND potentially more powerful than just casting it twice(only potentially because the random modifier comes into play), especially when you get into the Mega-tier spells and things like Megidolaon.

[jin07]

Mind/Power Charge increases the raw power of the attack by 2.5, so it's more than double the potential damage. So it's both cheaper AND potentially more powerful than just casting it twice(only potentially because the random modifier comes into play), especially when you get into the Mega-tier spells and things like Megidolaon.

Ah. Okay, thanks, that makes sense now. I thought it was a 2x boost since it says something like, "next attack will be twice as strong" in the description. A 2.5x boost explains why it's so highly regarded. I guess on my second run through I'll keep the charge skills.

[Hamel]

and if you cas things that increase your attack with another character it will do even more