Death Smiles 360

[System_Error]

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/deathsmiles/pake.jpg

NTSC-J Release:2009-04-23

Media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAx316P1Ibc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfXGT2X04Q&feature=related

[jeffx]

strong suggestion, backed hard.

[Zachalmighty]

Media needed for my support to be assured.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Day one!

[System_Error]

Media needed for my support to be assured.
Low Quality but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ODdD1SsU0&feature=related

If you do this, I'll forgive you if you do SRT.

[Zachalmighty]

The music is awesomely creepy and the game looks like a pretty solid schmupp. Would buy!

[jj984jj]

I support this, especially since they're doing the "rearranged" mode for it.

[Shikoku]

I'd buy an XBOX360 in a heartbeat if you guys did this. I was planning on eventually importing a JPN one just for this game but if it came to USA....!

[Towel]

I want this.

[bradgaming]

I want all the shmups Japan is getting on the 360 :(. I'm contemplating cancelling my SF4 TE 360 Arcade Stick Preorder and just getting a PS2 to play some shmups. I had a chance to play Death Smiles Black Label at an arcade in Austin, TX. Needless to say it was so much fun if you live near there look up Arcade UFO. Of course the one I played at the arcade looked very pixelated compared to what is coming for Japan 360..


Death Smiles:

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcave-game.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F&sl=ja&tl=en

If you look at some of the screenshots you can actually make out the shape of the heart really well it wasn't that way on the arcade machine I played it on.

I'm so sad someone give me a tissue cause we will probably never see....

DoDonPachi, Raiden IV, Death Smiles, and all the other great shooters they are have or will be getting in Japan

:very_sad:

BURN IN HELL REGION PROTECTION!:devil:

[Luna]

SEXY!

Day one!

(Oh wait... i don't have a 360)

[Sei]

Day one.

[banballow]

Looks fun. Would definitely have to pick it up.

[bradgaming]

Here is a comparison of what I had to play versus what the Japan Xbox 360 will be getting.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/10/deathsmiles_hd_01.jpg

:very_sad:

[grgspunk]

Day one too.

[Boss_Tuff]

Definitely agree, do want.

[Beekeeper]

This game would make me buy a 360. Especially considering it's the second horizontal shooter cave has ever made, unless I'm forgetting something. (I like horizontal ones better than vertical ones).

I don't even own any current gen systems but this game will make me bite.

[Zeether]

I'd so get a 360 for this.

[Ashilyn]

Day One. I love me some Cave shooters.

[foxhunt99]

Day one, please bring it.

[kuponick]

Just got here; glad I’m not the only one to think Death Smiles fits right with Atlus’ brand image :

1) It has that distinct japanese flavor that many Atlus games share.
2) It has gorgeous 2D graphics and fabulous artwork.
3) Like most Atlus games, it requires a certain amount of involvement to be truly apreciated.

Also, Cave (the developper) has definetely built a loyal fanbase, just like Atlus has. More and more people here are aware of Cave’s shmups; the demand certainly exists.

Atlus USA has made a name for itself with quality, unsual japanese games (Shin Megami Tensei being the prime exemple) done justice by excellent localizations. There are cons obviously, but Atlus has the right reputation to achieve success with Death Smiles. And then we can only hope for Dodonpachi and Ketsui…

Thanks for considering the possibility, at the very least :)

[jeffx]

Furthermore, Atlus Japan has published quite a few SHMUPs: Gunbird 1&2 (PS2), Strikers 1945 (Saturn) and Guwange + ESP RA.DE (Arcade, by Cave) come to mind. I understand the market over here isn't exactly as fertile but I'm not sure that Death Smiles entails more risk than, say... Ontanamamramamarmamraa and the other underperforming DS & Xbox 360 games. As long as we don't get Hard Hitter Tennis 2 instead of a shooter...

[kuponick]

Nice info you you brought up, jeffx. I had totally forgotten that Atlus Japan published ESPrade. I dug up one of my old Gamefan magazine (vol. 8 issue 7) in which ECM calls ESPrade "...perhaps the most impressively drawn and animated shooter ever..."

I sure miss Gamefan's hyperbolic writing ! Anyway, I'm quite sure a few Cave shmups have claimed that title since then. What really makes me wish Atlus USA would localize Death Smiles is that, from what I've heard and seen, it's definetely one of the most accessible shmup in Cave's library.

I have the feeling if we could only get ONE of their titles to come over here, others would follow up eventually.

Can't believe it's 2009 and we never had the chance to play even ONE of their games :question:

[dragonlife29]

I support this idea, and I would definitely buy it. I suck ass at the genre, but I do admit I enjoy trying! :oops:

[cj iwakura]

Kind of odd Atlus USA doesn't publish any shmups, since Atlus JP is practically Cave's parent company.


And do genres get any more niche than that?

Aksys forever gained my love by bringing us Shikigami 3.

[jeffx]

Can't believe it's 2009 and we never had the chance to play even ONE of their games :question:

BzZzT!! SMT: Imagine and Princess Debut were made by Cave...

:p:p:p:p

[VMan]

I haven't given up hope that it'll get localized (by somebody, not just Atlus). Especially given Raiden Fighters Aces is finally being brought over (thank you so much Zoo Games), I'm remaining hopeful/optimistic that Raiden IV and Death Smiles will be localized by somebody as well.

[VMan]

And do genres get any more niche than that?



I'd say Roguelikes are. That is why I see the potential.

[Matman]

Here's an interesting article found at Siliconera this that explains a few things:
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/01/30/deathsmiles-gets-a-date-and-an-arcade-stick/

in particular, this statement:
On second thought we could get Deathsmiles. While Aksys didn’t release Castle of Shikigami III on the Xbox 360 here someone is releasing Raiden Fighters Aces in the states. The rumor is budget publisher Zoo Games is responsible. We contacted Zoo Games and haven’t received a comment yet. However, other sources say Valcon Games is the North American publisher. We also contacted them. If I had to guess I would say it’s Valcon over Zoo Games. Valcon Games has a relationship with Success, the Japanese publisher of Raiden Fighters Aces, after their work with Shepherd’s Crossing.Now, this is NOT a guarantee on anything, but leaves a few doors open for people interested in seeing this game released outside Japan. That's better than nothing/hoping.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Atlus USA needs to get on the SHMUP bandwagon. PLS BLV!

[gamerdood]

This game is begging for localization. It would be cheap, since shmups have limited story; but if you advertise this showcasing the awesome art and graphics, gamers will snatch it up in a heartbeat. Come on, I registered here just to leave this comment, please Atlus!

[gsl]

Deathsmiles would make me buy a 360.

I'd do something else similarly outlandish if Atlus then proceeded to offer the Mega Black Label DLC for the game as well.

I'd imagine I'd do something really funky if say Ketsui EX and DDP DOJ Black Label EX also made their way over, but there's no point in getting greedy just yet. Something really funky, tho.

Not sure how much I like the hi-res look of the new sprites as opposed to the original arcade release, but from what I hear you can turn the hi-res mode off, which would be nice. Also, the remixed soundtrack being offered with the Japanese edition of the game would make an awesome Atlus Spoils item.

[xHaseox]

Day one. I'd have no problem buying an Xbox 360 for this.

Need something besides the flood of portable RPGs, Atlus. D: (Which I'll be buying anyways)

[Chidori Boy Uchiha]

i don't know what this game is all about but since Atlus is making it (hope it'll be localized) i'll buy it on day one

[gamerdood]

Here are some related media:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcave-game.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F&sl=ja&tl=en
http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/deathsmiles/index.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcave-game.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F&sl=ja&tl=en
gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0ucrsjn4U

[Vasuki]

I firmly agree with the sentiment to bring this to the english-speaking world. By the gods, this game is possibly the most epic thing I've ever seen. I'd buy it just for the music alone!

...I'm not kidding, I watched the youtube video once then started it over and let it run in the background because the sound is so freaking awesome. This on a YOUTUBE quality video.

[Tatsuya Suou]

This look good, 360 needs more games other than FPS's anyway.

[System_Error]

For real.

[malroth]

Definitely would get this if it ever came stateside. Make it happen, Atlus.

[System_Error]

Hey Atlus I just bought new copies of Shining Soul! See I support you!! Now support me supporting you.

[MonCapitan2002]

I would buy this game. I think it is a damn shame that Shmups don't get more love in the West. They are far more desirable to me than most of the FPS garbage that comes out here. Please consider releasing this title here.

[VMan]

They are far more desirable to me than most of the FPS garbage that comes out here.

Don't lose sight of the fact that you are in the extreme minority when you say that. But I'll gladly celebrate during the day a niche shmup outsells Gears of War X in the U.S. HA!

[gamerdood]

Since I have been buying games from Atlus since Persona 1; this would be a great way to repay my loyalty ( I even bought Growlanser: Heritage of War and it was pretty lame.) Come on, just let Play magazine hear you are publishing this and they will praise you for days.

[MonCapitan2002]

They are far more desirable to me than most of the FPS garbage that comes out here.

Don't lose sight of the fact that you are in the extreme minority when you say that. But I'll gladly celebrate during the day a niche shmup outsells Gears of War X in the U.S. HA!
I know I am. That doesn't change the fact that I am right. All I know is that I can't wait for the genre to die. I've only played one FPS and frankly it isn't good enough or appealing enough to get me into the genre.

[szycag]

This is a must. Many people will buy it just for the awesome style alone. It's also one of the best Cave games to date because anyone can pick it up and get somewhere. Shmups fans here are dying for a taste of what's popular in japanese arcades right now. Please consider bringing this here, I think it would be a success!

[Vialence]

yes!!!! Come Thru For Us Atlus!!! I Back It Haaard!

[gamerdood]

Hehe..back it hard...I mean.....um, me too.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Bundle it with its pretty arcade stick pls!

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dd-77-1-49-en-15-death+smiles-70-38wc.html

[kat_ears_kahrain]

They announced that they would be putting Death Smiles 2 on the 360 as well. (http://kotaku.com/5191325/xbox-360-getting-gothic-lolita-shooter-sequel) Grab up both of them and sell them together!

Goth Loli Shooter for the win!

Heck, the 360 is getting so many shooters that I'm just shy of buying a Japanese system and importing them all.

[JackLantern]

The local Anime store has the arcade version, and it's totally awesome. I want this game.

[dungeon_man]

I'll probably never buy a 360, but I fully support the localization of this game by Atlus. I'll buy a copy just to make my friends watch me play it on their systems. (and cross my fingers for a 360 emulator at some point in the distant future)

[ZosKiaCultus]

Make this happen please!

[LordGeo]

Yeah, this game looks like fun. Wasn't sure until I saw a nice HD video over at YouTube, but after seeing it I have to say that this game has my interest somewhat.

That now makes 2 Xbox 360 games I'd love to see Atlus bring over: Death Smiles and Absolute Blazing Infinity.

[landlock]

Not to be a party pooper but isn't Cave like Namco Bandai (i.e) they refuse to let anyone else work on there games making a NA release awfully unlikely.

[LordGeo]

Not to be a party pooper but isn't Cave like Namco Bandai (i.e) they refuse to let anyone else work on there games making a NA release awfully unlikely.

But Bandai Namco has an American division, Namco Bandai, that can bring the games over. Cave has no American division to bring their games over.

Are you trying to insinuate that Cave doesn't want their games released across the world and potentially bring in more sales? Also, we been given examples of Cave games being brought over... It's just that Cave's 2D shooters have never been brought over.

[landlock]

Are you trying to insinuate that Cave doesn't want their games released across the world and potentially bring in more sales? Also, we been given examples of Cave games being brought over... It's just that Cave's 2D shooters have never been brought over.

I'm saying that I'm sure I remember reading that Cave won't let other companies work on there games which is why none of the games they have control over have ever been released in NA/EU.

The only games that have been released in NA that were developed by Cave are the ones that were published by another publisher and they had no choice about such as Yanya City Skater which was published by Koei.

I could be wrong but it was quite a while ago.

[rapoon]

local arcade has this game. so ####ing fun. I'd love to see it over here. the cabinet is always packed w/ people watching, playing or standing in line.

Cave isn't publishing DoDonPachi Daioujou Black Label Extra, or Ketsui for the 360.

They've worked with atlus in the past, dunno why they'd have a problem bringing this game over. For a shmup, this would probably sell pretty well.

as a lot of you know, Cave approached micro#### about bringing their shmups to XBLA. Microsoft said no. lol! Less than a year later they're asking Treasure to re-make Radiant Silvergun for XBLA. *shrug*

Whoever is making the decisions at microsoft needs to lay off the gas huffing.

[Zombie_Punk]

This game looks awesome to the point of being absurd. Do it Atlus!

[Elizabeth]

Just happened to notice this game in an add on a site I was visiting. For the love of god, Atlus, you MUST bring this over!


...Would the mini-game where you try to lift up the girls' skirts be an issue, though?

[Decept]

Recently just got access to a 360, so this would be Day One. (wait I just realized I can now play raiden fighter aces or whatever. YES!)

bahahaha, a mini-game lifting up skirts

[Elizabeth]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.

[jeffx]

Take your negative attitude out of our Death Smiles thread.

[Elizabeth]

^ Since when is asking a question considered a "negative attitude"?

[Zombie_Punk]

It's a negative attitude when the question is negative.

If this forum was a waste of time I doubt it would be here in the first place.

[Elizabeth]

^ My, what a negative first impression you're giving!

[jeffx]

Elizabeth -> Ignore List
Zombie_Punk -> Friends List

[Elizabeth]

^ Wow, what an a-hole!

[cj iwakura]

You have the Rhythm Rogues in your signature.

You're okay.

[Enzeru]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.
Really? I hear Steal Princess, The Dark Spire, Dokapon Journey, etc were all suggested at some point. That's not to say that they brought them over because of that, but still...

[LordGeo]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.
Really? I hear Steal Princess, The Dark Spire, Dokapon Journey, etc were all suggested at some point. That's not to say that they brought them over because of that, but still...

I do know that Metal Saga was also suggested on the old forums, as I did support the suggestion when it was made, pre-ordered the game, and I still have it.

Whether or not Atlus has picked up titles due to a suggestion and not previous interest before is something that only the actual employees can tell us, but it's not like they've done nothing but bring over titles that we never suggest.

[cj iwakura]

When all's said and done, they do what's best for them as a business. If it happens to coincide with something we suggested, bonus, but if they don't want to localize Growlanser(for example) for whatever reason, nothing'll change that.

[Inzaghi]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.

It's very much worth suggesting games. We keep track of most Japanese releases ourselves, but it can never hurt to have the community bringing stuff to our attention. As others have pointed out, several games that have been posted in the Suggestion Box have later seen English release through Atlus USA. We do read this forum and are aware of every thread posted in it.

As I've said elsewhere, though, what's not worth doing is stumping for games or creating petitions or otherwise "showing support" to try to get us to pick up a title. If people want to use the suggestion box threads to discuss the games, that's fine, but there's no need to bump a thread to move it to the top of the list and show us how much support it has.

[LordGeo]

As I've said elsewhere, though, what's not worth doing is stumping for games or creating petitions or otherwise "showing support" to try to get us to pick up a title. If people want to use the suggestion box threads to discuss the games, that's fine, but there's no need to bump a thread to move it to the top of the list and show us how much support it has.

Though that doesn't stop all of us from posting mainly to "show support" for the games that are being suggested...

[Elizabeth]

Thanks very much to those who answered my question; I never meant to seem offensive or "negative" about it. It was just something I thought of after I posted my support for this game.

See... I'm a little pathetic in that a big part of my life centers around games and I get really bummed when I get interested in an oddball title that probably doesn't have a chance of being released outside of Japan. A section like this where you can suggest games is something that gives me hope and I really don't like getting my hopes for nothing, so I thought I'd just ask. Once again, sorry if it came across rude.

[Towel]

I'd really like to see this published, but I hear Cave are kinda assholes when it comes to licensing their games. They apparently ask for way to much money. Which is why none of their games, hurr durr, have ever come to the States.

[jeffx]

Triggerheart Exelica is from Warashi -- not Cave.

[affinity]

Triggerheart Exelica is from Warashi -- not Cave.

which is why it made it over here in US. :p

yeah Cave is too greedy to deal with. it's a shame.

[Varamathras]

Interesting, but will definitely not be brought over.

[Aizuku]

I'll buy it and an X360 on the same day.

[Magis]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.

This is a negative question. You're basically asking the entire subforum if the entire subforums existence is worth contributing towards or not based on what Atlus percieves, but they're probably aware of the forum considering that they made it themselves.

[bucklemyshoe]

Glad to see there is a lot of demand for this. JP numbers are over 40,000 which is better than Otomedius Gorgeous I believe.

To bring this game over is to make a killing. I'm sure whatever # is pressed just about every copy will be sold. Beyond that, if it is (and I'm sure it would be) successful they can cash in again on the release of Mushihimesama Futari.

I bought the JP version and would gladly buy a translated US version.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn181/BMS_Apple/0509091503.jpg

I don't know who said they wanted to bring DOJ BLEX brought over as well but I suggest getting the PS2 version instead. atleast until the from scratch new port is out because the "current version" was so buggy it had to be recalled.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn181/BMS_Apple/0306091447a.jpg

[solid wii snake]

After the port of Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi Extra for the 360 is released, that game, Deathsmiles, and DoDonPachi Daioujou Black Label Extra could be packaged in one, which would be pretty sweet. Why should the other two Cave 360 ports be ignored?

[bucklemyshoe]

except that cave only ported death smiles. 5pb is in a huge mess over DOJ BLEX and it's stolen source code. while it's been stated a different team worked on the ketsui port, 5pb is also behind it so when it sees the light of day is anyone's guess.

cave is also porting mushi futari.

(if you didn't know 5pb had to place a recall on DOJ BLEX, and they're forced to redo the port again from scratch)

[Elizabeth]

Umm... Is it even worth it to post games we want in this section? I don't think Atlus has ever brought over a single suggestion.

This is a negative question. You're basically asking the entire subforum if the entire subforums existence is worth contributing towards or not based on what Atlus percieves, but they're probably aware of the forum considering that they made it themselves.

Jesus Christ! Let it go!

[bucklemyshoe]

ESPGALUDA II Announced

Atlus BRING THESE GAMES STATESIDE!

[dungeon_man]

I think 95% of this forum's existence is because we'd beg Atlus to create one if it didn't exist, and it gives us an illusion of power.

We can't convince Atlus to publish a title by posting here, they make their decisions internally. However, if they were completely unaware of a Japanese game and it was mentioned here, they might check it out.

At any rate, I support any quality STGs being brought stateside by anybody. I'd even be happy to see some of the PS2 games brought over. Ibara, Psyvariar, etc.

[etrianfan]

There is a possibility for Cave titles.

http://kotaku.com/5351554/is-cave-going-to-release-a-bullet-hell-shooter-outside-japan

The first paragraph mentions

“In a recent blog post, Cave's Makoto Asada talks briefly about meeting with Microsoft and hints at a worldwide release for one of it's titles by discussing looking into support and whatnot for titles and mentions his desire to put out an English language project language

This is the post
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcave-game.cocolog-nifty.com%2Fblog%2F2009%2F09%2Fiza.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Can someone make a better translation ?

I posted this in the off topic as well.

[gamerdood]

I hope this happens.

[ZomDizae]

I dunno - give me Ketsui over those lolis and we'll talk.

[landlock]

They should just release them on XBox live in the US/Europe.

[Kyuketsukimiyu]

I would play this game if it came over. That kind of setting is one of my favorites.

[busterj990]

I would definetly get this game if it came out over here. looks awsome!

[sarshelyam]

Same boat...I'd buy this day one as well. I picked up Raiden Fighter Aces and have Raiden 4 on preorder, but seriously...2 SHMUP releases does not make up for the HOARD they receive overseas. ATLUS, you need to support this genre before it dies completely. This is classic SHMUP GOLD and we need it so very badly.

[gamerdood]

I am still hoping for this game to be released outside Japan. Come on Atlus, I have bought so many of your games over the years, even the bad ones (cough) Demikids (cough). This is my one request.

[ZomDizae]

Same boat...I'd buy this day one as well. I picked up Raiden Fighter Aces and have Raiden 4 on preorder, but seriously...2 SHMUP releases does not make up for the HOARD they receive overseas. ATLUS, you need to support this genre before it dies completely. This is classic SHMUP GOLD and we need it so very badly.
Looks like most future Cave ports won't need any overseas publishers; Mushi futari 1.5 is region free and if all works well Cave will do so with their other titles too. (Here's hoping for that frickin' Ketsui port...)

[gamerdood]

Just wanted to get this some more recognition.

[Tivor]

I'm not a shmup guy, but that game looks AWESOME. :o

I take it it's an Xbox360 exclusive? :(

[gamerdood]

Yeah it is an exclusive. I wish it was for PS3, it is region free.
http://www.xbox-news.com/img8/deathsmiles02.jpg

[etrianfan]

I really hope Atlus releases this game here. I also hope they pick up other Cave xbox ports as well.

[System_Error]

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/01/15/deathsmiles-magically-gets-stateside-release/

HOLY LORD OF AWESOME...

[Sanctine]

I'm just wondering who the publisher is. My guess is UFO Interactive.

Buying this day one.

[cj iwakura]

Wow. I never saw that coming.

[AdrianMorales]

Who is this mystery publisher anyway?

[System_Error]

Hopefully it's Atlus lol

[Sagadego]

siliconera [This Account Has Been Suspended] what!?
the website is gone?

[sdragon21]

siliconera [This Account Has Been Suspended] what!?
the website is gone?

No, the website is still there.
But back on topic, whoever should bring this out, should either release this as a Downloadable title for no more than $20 or if ithey decide to make it a retail game, make it no more than $40, and throw in a CD soundtrack or something in that line.

Anyway, it's just my opinion.

[Enzeru]

Maybe it's just me but I would pay $60 for this if it would help bring more Cave overseas.

[Sanctine]

But back on topic, whoever should bring this out, should either release this as a Downloadable title for no more than $20 or if ithey decide to make it a retail game, make it no more than $40, and throw in a CD soundtrack or something in that line.

I think anyone who actually wanted this game would think differently. I don't think anyone would disagree on wanting it cheaper, but I certainly don't want it as a downloadable title, and I'd be more than willing to spend $60 for it.

[sdragon21]

Just saw some gameplay, and it's a side scroller???

I thought i read somewhere that cave hated making side scrollers.
Either way, it look's pretty good!

[Zombie_Punk]

Despite how much I want this I didn't think we'd actually get it so I'm thrilled at this news. Another day one.

[SomethingDifferent]

Just saw some gameplay, and it's a side scroller???

I thought i read somewhere that cave hated making side scrollers.
Either way, it look's pretty good!

I don't think they "hate" side-scrolling shmups; it's probably just a case of not being used to making them. The vast majority of danmaku shmups are verts - Cave themselves have only three horis in their catalog, Deathsmiles, its sequel and Progear. But IMO, they really should make more. Progear is my favorite Cave game of all time and this one looks fantastic too.

[Dan Druff]

Who is this mystery publisher anyway?
http://www.aksysgames.com/2010/01/18/deathsmiles-on-everyone-lolis-smile-back/
It's Aksys. Now Atlus needs to respond by localizing Melty Blood anything.