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cj iwakura
11-16-2008, 06:45 PM
He's the only instructor in the game I actually enjoy paying attention to.

He's the school nurse, and also the one who gives lectures on religious studies and ancient magic practices.

Very informative stuff, especially when he breaks down stereotypes about certain religions and practices.

Is there any more info or reading material on the source material for his dialogue? It sounds like it'd make an excellent read for a publication.


I guess the only other teacher who comes close to speaking on interesting stuff is the one who rants on Japanese history, but he only cares about one era.

Flebsqueeb
11-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Samurais.....

dragonlife29
11-16-2008, 08:08 PM
Dude, I totally agree.

I absolutely loved reading his lessons (especially the Arcana break-down) since I'm into the stuff he'd talk about. I remember writing cult names down on an index card...but I lost it =(

Hamel
11-16-2008, 09:16 PM
I loved it when he used Hebrew in his lessons on the Kabbalah

Einherjar
11-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Yeah, I love how they go so deep into those kinda stuff, it's worth reading. Didn't expect them to actually put things to learn in school. A majority of them are just for lolz (the math teacher).

persona3rocks
11-29-2008, 10:20 PM
yea those are the only lectures i dont just skip throught they are very interesting to me :D

Violinzu_Hiromi
12-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I even went to his extra lectures after school, just to listen. xD

raum215
01-16-2009, 07:45 AM
Edogawa is great, and mostly right.

Most of what he says can be drawn back down to Eastern Works, From Patanjali to Chuang Tze and more Western Sources, such as:

1. Eliphas Levi (thus Psuedodionysus the Architect of Angelology in Catholicism)
2. Rabbinical Tradition that produced the (Sepherim Yetzirah, Bahir and Deunetada),
3. Agrippa (and thus Trithemius and Johan Weir) through Kircher,
4. Aleister Crowley (and thus also Woodrow, Alan Bennett and George Bernard Shaw),
5. and a study from Neville Drury, religious anthropologist who compared and contrasted primitive shamanisms and to Western Ceremonial magick, with a major focus on Golden Dawn magick, as related by Israel Regardie's experience in Stella Matutina. (Part of this was published in "The Magician and the Shaman"

um, I mean - yah- it is neat...

The Majority of the source texts are in the Elias Ashmole wing of the London Museum, and were once part of John Dee's personal library.

(John Dee was my childhood hero before a number of people met him, and still is.)

septembervirgin
01-25-2009, 12:40 PM
He's said a few odd things, actually, and his tarot card descriptions seem almost verbatim from pop books on the subject. He's Mr. Pop Culture Occult of Port City. That's why he's not running a magic item store, I suppose.

Las Lobos
01-25-2009, 01:08 PM
Edogawa is great, and mostly right.

Most of what he says can be drawn back down to Eastern Works, From Patanjali to Chuang Tze and more Western Sources, such as:

1. Eliphas Levi (thus Psuedodionysus the Architect of Angelology in Catholicism)
2. Rabbinical Tradition that produced the (Sepherim Yetzirah, Bahir and Deunetada),
3. Agrippa (and thus Trithemius and Johan Weir) through Kircher,
4. Aleister Crowley (and thus also Woodrow, Alan Bennett and George Bernard Shaw),
5. and a study from Neville Drury, religious anthropologist who compared and contrasted primitive shamanisms and to Western Ceremonial magick, with a major focus on Golden Dawn magick, as related by Israel Regardie's experience in Stella Matutina. (Part of this was published in "The Magician and the Shaman"

um, I mean - yah- it is neat...

The Majority of the source texts are in the Elias Ashmole wing of the London Museum, and were once part of John Dee's personal library.

(John Dee was my childhood hero before a number of people met him, and still is.)
Yeah I was going to say, especially as far as his lectures on Hebrew texts he's pretty dead on, that's another great thing about ATLUS and their knowledge of different religions and religious figures. They know they're stuff and for that I respect ATLUS for taking the time to read up on these things.

tross
01-25-2009, 06:04 PM
I think he's the male equivalent of Professor Trelawney from the Harry Potter series. Unlike Trelawney though, I think he's awesome. I was thinking of Vision of Escaflowne when I was listening to his lectures on tarot cards. Those lessons were great, but gave me too much information to remember. So I thought of Hitomi instead. I also liked his classes on magic. He was one of few teachers who I found interesting. The math teacher was an idiot.

septembervirgin
01-25-2009, 07:00 PM
Well, you know, maybe a few BOTA lectures and you'll see how elementary his teachings are? Not that BOTA is much.

Olethros
01-26-2009, 09:11 AM
Well, you know, maybe a few BOTA lectures and you'll see how elementary his teachings are? Not that BOTA is much.

...and yet even more condescending? Hmmm.

septembervirgin
01-26-2009, 02:05 PM
Well, you know, maybe a few BOTA lectures and you'll see how elementary his teachings are? Not that BOTA is much.

...and yet even more condescending? Hmmm.

Well, BOTA is descended of The Golden Dawn and appears to me to be an entry school with some erudition -- however, it is not a school I would wish to find myself in perpetually, unless in perpetuity I were to discover some relief from illness. Now, given that the Golden Dawn is derived of teachings in a certain Masonic Order of studious Rosicrucians, and this Order is the result of historic forces. I've been advised to avoid the fraud and heartache involved researching the orders prior to the turn of the 19th century, but it appears that the French Republic, Italian comedians, and ex-Catholics figure largely into the generation of Western Occultism in the 18th century -- not to mention a great many claims made by Freemasonic books.

In any case, I apologise if I sound condescending. I rather like some BOTA members. I have attended speeches from BOTA members and viewed their tarot. I found that during two deep illnesses (one in early adolescence, the other in mid-adolescence) I have been encouraged to join BOTA.

I am more the type who is drawn to two entirely different sorts of mystical groups: those of solemn study with solid Masonic presence and sweet, kindly mystical orders with a patina of Christian devotion. Of course due to physical properties (which Naoto would envy me) I am not precisely a candidate for most orders of Freemasonry and hence am blocked from becoming a formal member of Societas Rosicruciana (out of respect even -- after all, I could hoodwink people).

However, this is really altogether more than should go on a public forum. Suffice it to say, I am not a member of BOTA, I do not STRONGLY desire to join (due to their focus on the tarot as the be-all and end-all of the mysteries), and if anything I'd be in the Society of Inner Light, Martinism in conjunction with the le Adroit Humain, or east Asian shamanism/priesthood as separate from Buddhism.

So there. Edogawa is just a graduate from pop-occult bookstore purchases.

Ike.
01-26-2009, 02:13 PM
he's teaching our japanese youth about WITCHCRAFT

Rikuo
01-26-2009, 02:27 PM
Edogawa was the person i wanted a social link with the most!

His breakdown of the Arcana, religious talk, even his teachings on magic from teh olden days.

Edogawa is full of win.