HALP! (Sort of...)

[QBasic]

I trust you...this thread isn't what it seems from the title alone.

...

Okay! So, I have this really cool Machete avatar. I love it. However, as badass as Machete is...I'm tired of it, and I can't decide a new one! Hence...I need le'help!
http://i37.tinypic.com/35i11qv.png
1-Hanging Around
2-Rider & Saber
3-Bananas
4-Phonebooth Villain
5-Steroids
6-A platypus
7-Kickass dancer
8-Gentleman
9-Dijkstra
10-Mr. Satan/Hercule

Also...don't limit this thread to just my avatars alone or anything...I'm sure a few of you want some switches too! So let it be...a creative think-tank.

[jeffx]

2/8 no gore on mah atlus forumz plz

oh #6 is cute too. though these things are venomous.

[Sei]

Either 2 or a better picture of a platypus. That one sort of looks like a snake to me.

[QBasic]

oh #6 is cute too. though these things are venomous.
The only venomous mammal in the world, I believe.

Either 2 or a better picture of a platypus. That one sort of looks like a snake to me.
http://i36.tinypic.com/257d5af.png
Dot?

[Sei]

Approved!

[DamnedToBeFree]

The first one.

[QBasic]

@_@;;

Let's see...the avatar to get at least like...4 approvals I guess. @_@

[shimo]

Number 2 and 6 works for me.

[QBasic]

Okay...3's good enough.

Platypus it is!

Okay...you all can have this thread now.

[StrikeRaider]

Your sig makes me think of incest. I prefer rider riding saber! Makes me think of its roots.

[Zachalmighty]

His sig is from Death Proof, which makes him awesome in my book.

[QBasic]

His sig is from Death Proof, which makes him awesome in my book.
I take it you actually have A book. ;-)

[Olethros]

....sigh....

[Kakizaki]

His sig is from Death Proof, which makes him awesome in my book.
I take it you actually have A book. ;-)

What exactly is this meant to imply?

[DamnedToBeFree]

His sig is from Death Proof, which makes him awesome in my book.
I take it you actually have A book. ;-)

What exactly is this meant to imply?

Reference to the movie. Kurt Russel's character has an actual book where he makes notes on people he meets.

[Kakizaki]

^Ah, I see. Clever tie-in.

[Zachalmighty]

So clever I didn't even notice what he was trying to say. Though Kurt Russel's book was about who he stalked, am I right?

[cj iwakura]

#2.

Or 6.

[Sei]

So clever I didn't even notice what he was trying to say. Though Kurt Russel's book was about who he stalked, am I right?

You are right!. I actually had forgotten about the book in question as well.

Good movie, but I sorta liked the Robert Rodriguez one better. Name evades me at this time.

[Futomimi]

Planet Terror. I liked PT better as well.

[Sei]

Thanks Mimi!. Yeah, I thought it was an awesome zombie movie. I think they said they were actually making movies out of a couple of the fake trailers. If they actually make Machete, I'll be happy.

Trailer made us laugh quite a bit :)

[Futomimi]

Yeah, it was pretty good, and a better, more clever homage to grindhouse movies than Deathproof. Plus, I love anything involving Tom Savini.

[Sei]

Don't forget the thigh machine gun!

[Olethros]

...sigh again...

[Zachalmighty]

Can't wait for Quintin's next movie about Nazi's in WW2.

[Kakizaki]

^Which movies is he going to rip-of......I mean pay homage to with that?

[Zachalmighty]

^Which movies is he going to rip-of......I mean pay homage to with that?

lol! I don't quite now, as far as my knowledge of his movies, Grindhouse and Kill Bill were the only homages he created.

[DamageCity]

^Which movies is he going to rip-of......I mean pay homage to with that?

lol! I don't quite now, as far as my knowledge of his movies, Grindhouse and Kill Bill were the only homages he created.

Jackie Brown

[Futomimi]

and Pulp Fiction...

[Sei]

and Reservoir dogs...

[Zachalmighty]

Really? I never drew the connections!

But using that logic I could say that the Green Mile (probably mixing the wrong name to the movie I am thinking of) was a rip-off or homage to Cool Hand Luke.

[Kakizaki]

^No I'm sorry to say you really couldn't make that connection.

[Futomimi]

What? Cool Hand Luke is about a guy that can't conform to prison life. The Green Mile is about a docile man (thrown into prison for someone else's crime) who has healing powers.

If you mean One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which is the other prison movie that comes to mind, the novel came out in 1962. Cool Hand Luke didn't come out until 1967.

[Camanche]

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about a man pretending to be mentally ill to get a free ride in a mental institution and about how his wild personality effects the fellow patients and staff. And how he is 'dealt' with. I do have the right book, right?

[Sei]

You do cammy. That movie makes me cry.

[Olethros]

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about a man pretending to be mentally ill to get a free ride in a mental institution and about how his wild personality effects the fellow patients and staff. And how he is 'dealt' with. I do have the right book, right?

Quite right. I prefer not to think of this one too often, though.

[RayFoxSith]

Jack Nicholson was good in that, though.

[Olethros]

I agree. It just hits a personal nerve for me. I don't dispute that it was a great movie, though.

[Futomimi]

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is about a man pretending to be mentally ill to get a free ride in a mental institution and about how his wild personality effects the fellow patients and staff. And how he is 'dealt' with. I do have the right book, right?

You're right, it was a mental institution, not a prison. ####, I'm retarded.

[RayFoxSith]

^But with the way they treated people back then you could mistaken an institution for a prison.

[Olethros]

^ It's not always much better these days either. If you've never seen the inside of one (no, I wasn't a patient!) I really don't recommend going.

[Pixel]

I agree. It just hits a personal nerve for me. I don't dispute that it was a great movie, though.

^ It's not always much better these days either. If you've never seen the inside of one (no, I wasn't a patient!) I really don't recommend going.
Right, right. It's okay, your secret is safe with us. ;)

[Olethros]

lolol

[Camanche]

My mother has had a mental illness (I won't say which because it's damned serious) her entire life and has been in and out of mental institutions when I was growing up. I used to have to visit her in there..

I've been in the mental health ward of the hospital (a patient) for several months as well to check if I could have the same problem (which I don't, thanks for putting me in the lockup, incompetent health system).

This book means more to me then most people could imagine. I read it when I was young. It helped me confront things like suicide and many of the other issues I had to understand about mental illness and the way people are treated in those places. It never made me cry though. It was something different for me. What did you think on it Olethros? I have some interesting views on the mental health system and they are rather negative.

[QBasic]

^Which movies is he going to rip-of......I mean pay homage to with that?
=_=;;

...He's making a WWII movie titled "Inglorious Basterds" (Yes, "basterds", not bastards). It stars Brad Pitt, Samuel L. Jackson, Mike Myers, Diane Kruger and B.J. Novak.

As for DP and PT...yes, I also like Planet Terror more. But, you can't take out the fact that Death Proof has some seriously funny ass lines...and probably one of the top 10 car chases in movie history.

[Kakizaki]

d:O

I enjoy some of his movies, but for others I prefer to watch the source material he is ripping off...I mean paying tribute to.

[QBasic]

d:O

I enjoy some of his movies, but for others I prefer to watch the source material he is ripping off...I mean paying tribute to.
Okay. When he made Pulp Fiction...what did he rip off?

Please, enlighten us. :3

[Kakizaki]

t(-_-t)

What part of this....:

I enjoy some of his movies, but for others I prefer to watch the source material he is ripping off...I mean paying tribute to.

....confused you? Did I say all of his movies were complete rip offs? Did that imply all of them were a little too close to the vest? Please, enlighten me.

Besides, anyone who can use a search engine can easily look up films that influenced Q and PF.

[Kakizaki]

Actually, when I think about it, off the top of my head there are some pretty blatant nods to Deliverance within PF -- pretty simple connection without thinking much. Imagine what we can up with if we really try.

I image IB will be a 'homage' to Kelly's Heroes and the Dirty Dozen.


edit - Walken + Watch = Deer Hunter. Wow, I'm not the only one that noticed.......

[QBasic]

Actually, when I think about it, off the top of my head there are some pretty blatant nods to Deliverance within PF -- pretty simple connection without thinking much. Imagine what we can up with if we really try.

I image IB will be a 'homage' to Kelly's Heroes and the Dirty Dozen.


edit - Walken + Watch = Deer Hunter. Wow, I'm not the only one that noticed.......
Coincidence! That's like saying "OMG! Die Hard 2 has Bruce Willis playing John McClane...that's SUCH A RIPOFF FROM THE ORIGINAL DIE HARD!!!!"

...Ok, maybe not like that. But you get the picture.

[Kakizaki]

^No, I don't get the idea. After I wrote that, I did a quick search. There is a decent amount of info regarding it. Like I said, search for yourself.

I take it you have never seen the Deer Hunter? If you had I doubt you would call it a coincidence.

edit - I don't have a problem with PF. I do like. I also don't have a problem with homages, but I do get quite tired of people who fap over QT and act like he is some uber original genius. He makes a living solely on homages -- some of which are waay too close to their source material.

[QBasic]

^No, I don't get the idea. After I wrote that, I did a quick search. There is a decent amount of info regarding it. Like I said, search for yourself.

I take it you have never seen the Deer Hunter? If you had I doubt you would call it a coincidence.
I did see it. I'm self-admittedly a movie geek. And no, I wouldn't call it a rip off...

Now, Guy Ritchie movies...THOSE, you can pretty much call rip offs... Tarantino, sure he borrows...but the dude has his own style, clearly.

If you're an artist with no inspiration, then you're pretty much like a writer who can't read.

[Kakizaki]

^Yes, a style that is heavily borrowed from others. Sam Peckinpah comes to mind.

Inspiration and stealing the canvas itself and claiming it is yours are two entirely different beasts.

[QBasic]

^Yes, a style that is heavily borrowed from others.
Dude...there's a whole lot of ####alkin' and misconceptions about it...but Tarantino ain't a rip off artist.

And that's that. End of story, end of discussion. >:<

[Kakizaki]

^Ah, no. It isn't the end.


As a fan of chanbara and yakuza films, I can say with absolute certainty it isn't outlandish to call QT a rip off artist.

[QBasic]

^Ah, no. It isn't the end.


As a fan of chanbara and yakuza films, I can say with absolute certainty it isn't outlandish to call QT a rip off artist.
Kaki, to engage in an argument or debate, you need at least a pair.

You're number 1, and I ain't number 2. Find someone else to bicker with. :)

[Futomimi]

I would argue that you are a huge pile of number 2.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Kaki, to engage in an argument or debate, you need at least a pair.

You're number 1, and I ain't number 2. Find someone else to bicker with. :)
You're such a child.

[Kakizaki]

Qbasic,

Dude, don't play that card -- especially when people are being respectful. No one was bickering. Maybe you can explain to me why it is alright for you to respond to my posts and I can't reciprocate?

This is a public forum. You make a comment, and someone replies. That is how it works. If you don't like it, either don't post or don't reply in threads if you have no interest in someone replying to you.

You are only reinforcing the comment that I made in reference to you in another thread. If this is what you previously referred to as 'backing me in a corner' you are quite mistaken.

[QBasic]

Qbasic,

Dude, don't play that card -- especially when people are being respectful. No one was bickering. Maybe you can explain to me why it is alright for you to respond to my posts and I can't reciprocate?

This is a public forum. You make a comment, and someone replies. That is how it works. If you don't like it, either don't post or don't reply in threads if you have no interest in someone replying to you.

You are only reinforcing the comment that I made in reference to you in another thread. If this is what you previously referred to as 'backing me in a corner' you are quite mistaken.
Well...first and foremost...this thread isn't even ABOUT Tarantino. It's about me picking out a new avatar. The chosen winner was of course God's sick joke-er, I mean the platypus.

It's YOU all that decided to do some stupid switchflip. And I mostly remained cool throughout it.

Besides...it's not card, nor is it childish. You started a debate which I have no intend to finish. >_>;; Is that so impossible to comprehend? I said what I wanted to say, and the reason why I said "the END IS ZE END" is because I KNEW you'd wanna start a whole new debate it...

Call it clairvoyance... @_@;;

=_= As I said...You think he's a rip off artist, I don't. You wanna debate about it....I don't. :( Is that so wrong?

[Kakizaki]

Who resurrected my simple comment?

Did I? Nope.


Like I said, if you weren't interested, then leave it be. Don't whine about it later.

[QBasic]

Who resurrected my simple comment?

Did I? Nope.


Like I said, if you weren't interested, then leave it be. Don't whine about it later.
Well...I resurrected that just to say Death Proof had a badass car chase, and that I also like Planet Terror more, and to inform you of Inglorious Basterds... :<

YOU'RE the one all moaning about him being a ripoff artist...I didn't say a PEEP prior...

[SickleCellAnemia]

Besides...it's not card, nor is it childish. You started a debate which I have no intend to finish.
I think that's called bitching out.

[Kakizaki]

No Q, you continued and asked on my input regarding Pulp Fiction.

If you were really that intent on not continuing this, you would look at what you have written in this thread previously, understand your folly, and drop it.

Okay. When he made Pulp Fiction...what did he rip off?

Just in case you forgot.

[QBasic]

Besides...it's not card, nor is it childish. You started a debate which I have no intend to finish.
I think that's called bitching out.
Really. Don't try those hockey ring provoke-tactics on me. :<
No, you continued and asked on my input regarding Pulp Fiction.

If you were really that intent on not continuing this, you would look at what you have written in this thread previously, understand your folly, and drop it.
Fine. I won't drop it. If you wanna argue so bad, I'll fight wif ya.

Homage =/= ripoff. Inspiration =/= ripoff. Borrowing =/= ripoff.

Interviews. Self-written statements. Geeking out. All of that is found all over the place regarding Tarantino.

The line between ripoff and homage can be reeeaaallly blurry sometimes...and as long as the creator denies blatant thievery and says it's a homage, all the other opinionated viewers' rants pretty much amount to nothing.

Biggest reason for that...when homages are concerned...due credit is given. In ALL his films, Tarantino ALWAYS gives due credit to his inspirations in one way or another: either through interviews, or easter eggs found in his movies.

THAT is what seperates him from ripoff artists. He's a writer who cites his sources.

[Futomimi]

Who resurrected my simple comment?

Did I? Nope.


Like I said, if you weren't interested, then leave it be. Don't whine about it later.
Well...I resurrected that just to say Death Proof had a badass car chase, and that I also like Planet Terror more, and to inform you of Inglorious Basterds... :<

YOU'RE the one all moaning about him being a ripoff artist...I didn't say a PEEP prior...

He made one comment about Tarantino ripping off a movie. It wasn't even two sentences long. You were the one that turned this into a debate in the first place by going all fanboy.

[Kakizaki]

Alright let's get this thread back on track. Since Q is upset that this thread was derailed from his avatar topic onto a topic that was generating more interesting, let's just concentrate on the avatars.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Besides...it's not card, nor is it childish. You started a debate which I have no intend to finish.
I think that's called bitching out.
Really. Don't try those hockey ring provoke-tactics on me. :<
I call it as I see it.

[QBasic]

Alright let's get this thread back on track. Since Q is upset that this thread was derailed from his avatar topic onto a topic that was generating more interesting, let's just concentrate on the avatars.
Naaah dude. I'm cool. Read above, I'm cool with it.

[QBasic]

No Q, you continued and asked on my input regarding Pulp Fiction.

If you were really that intent on not continuing this, you would look at what you have written in this thread previously, understand your folly, and drop it.

Okay. When he made Pulp Fiction...what did he rip off?

Just in case you forgot.
And how many times did you say or refer to rip off before I asked you that? :3

[Kakizaki]

And how many times did you say or refer to rip off before I asked you that? :3

Q, I'm being quite polite with you here. If you want to try to continue to attempt to push buttons, do it elsewhere. I'm getting quite tired of this. It is pretty apparent to others what you are trying to do.

[QBasic]

edit - I gave you fair warning dude and let you get your little shots in. I thought I was pretty fair in doing that since everyone was being kind of testy. I have even let some of your posts go in the past when they probably should have been edited for subtle jabs at people here. I'm tired of this. You have been warned. Kakizaki.