Atlus Brings Devil Survivor to DS

[shimo]

Here are some links.


http://ds.ign.com/articles/924/924868p1.html?RSSwhen2008-10-29_062200&RSSid=924868

http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen29301_devil-survivor-announced-for-the-nintendo-ds.html

[Sei]

Day One!

[jj984jj]

The full name for the new game is actually Megami Ibunroku Devil Survivor. The Japanese words before "Devil Survivor" also precede the Japanese version of that PlayStation classic, Revelations: Persona. The connection between the two games is unknown.
If there even is one! It could just be Atlus tying this to the Megaten franchise since they dropped it for Persona 2 on.

I can't wait to see what it is, hurry up next week!

[illogicaldreamr]

Oh, wow! I can't wait to see the screens for this. I'm hoping for a first person RPG.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

[dragonlife29]

I think I just wet myself! OMG, I can't wait!

[Sanctine]

God damn DS...

Oh well. Never day one until I see some footage.

[DamageCity]

Hopfully it's more adult and less of the teeny bopper crap Persona has become.

[Sanctine]

Hopfully it's more adult and less of the teeny bopper crap Persona has become.

It's on DS. What exactly do you expect will happen?

[Sei]

^ Super serious business apocalyptic computer based demon summoning of course. On the other hand.. yeah.. :(.

[getter77]

Hey since this is the DS....it COULD be a Roguelike! Imagine how insane that could get with the SMT/Persona backdrop and history...

[Sanctine]

Hey since this is the DS....it COULD be a Roguelike! Imagine how insane that could get with the SMT/Persona backdrop and history...

Why would it being on DS have anything at all to do with it being a roguelike?

[Zachalmighty]

MUST COME TO US. I don't care how bad it is as long as it is a FP RPG Dungeon crawler!

[Kakizaki]

^ Super serious business apocalyptic computer based demon summoning of course. On the other hand.. yeah.. :(.

Not funny.

[thinkfreemind]

Woohoo! I'm excited.

[Kid Marin]

God damn DS...

Heh. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

[Sanctine]

Heh. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

So am I, actually.

[getter77]

Hey since this is the DS....it COULD be a Roguelike! Imagine how insane that could get with the SMT/Persona backdrop and history...

Why would it being on DS have anything at all to do with it being a roguelike?

DS is the most popular platform of choice for Roguelikes these days---far and away. So for any RPG announced with no details yet forthcoming, one could guess it to be a Roguelike and not be considered totally insane given the DS library. It really would be a nigh impossible shot in the dark guess for an upcoming undetailed 360 RPG or PS3 RPG considering there's nothing to suggest such games for those systems.

Mainly it was a play off of the notion that since it is for DS it may well be "kiddy".

[James Fiend]

Hey since this is the DS....it COULD be a Roguelike! Imagine how insane that could get with the SMT/Persona backdrop and history...

Why would it being on DS have anything at all to do with it being a roguelike?

Mainly it was a play off of the notion that since it is for DS it may well be "kiddy".I prefer the logic that there are more roguelikes for DS than other systems. The fact that there aren't many roguelikes in general compounded with the SMT fundamentals being pretty incompatible with roguelikes makes me think no.

[RayFoxSith]

Oh well. Never day one until I see some footage.

Here's hoping it's something worth-while.

[cj iwakura]

It'll be a first person shooter taking place in the Devil Summoner universe.

(Hence 'Survivor')



I kid.

Hopefully.

[Kain Mare]

I will probably pick this up a couple of days after the release and read on the reviews.

[Kakizaki]

Hey since this is the DS....it COULD be a Roguelike! Imagine how insane that could get with the SMT/Persona backdrop and history...

Why would it being on DS have anything at all to do with it being a roguelike?

Mainly it was a play off of the notion that since it is for DS it may well be "kiddy".I prefer the logic that there are more roguelikes for DS than other systems. The fact that there aren't many roguelikes in general compounded with the SMT fundamentals being pretty incompatible with roguelikes makes me think no.

Kind of off topic, but I believe the rogue like - DS correlation has more to do with releases in the 'states. There are a ton of rogue likes on other systems in Japan. I wouldn't say that the DS has a higher percentage.

[getter77]

No...DS is the undisputed king of forthcoming Roguelikes. Runnerup is Wii, and none have been announced for any region, nor have been released, for 360 and PS3. Lifetime, PS2 still technically has more Roguelikes, I think, but current trends with Shiren 2 DS coming and who knows what else indicate strongly that usurpation of said throne is coming...leaving the DS 2nd overall compared to the PC----with it trumping the PC when it comes to commercial Roguelikes.

How is SMT incompatible with Roguelikes, if you don't mind my asking? Dungeon Crawling, hard gameplay, lots of little battle details,....all I could see that'd need figuring would be a deepish storyline. It could be a nifty new twist for the franchise since they've already done first person, third person, etc.

[Sanctine]

No...DS is the undisputed king of forthcoming Roguelikes. Runnerup is Wii, and none have been announced for any region, nor have been released, for 360 and PS3. Lifetime, PS2 still technically has more Roguelikes, I think, but current trends with Shiren 2 DS coming and who knows what else indicate strongly that usurpation of said throne is coming...leaving the DS 2nd overall compared to the PC----with it trumping the PC when it comes to commercial Roguelikes.

Even if that were true, it wasn't my point at all. Just because the DS is getting a higher amount of roguelikes than usual, doesn't mean every franchise is going to get that treatment if they're released on that system, nor does it mean they even have a higher chance of getting the rogue treatment.

And I agree with Kaki, as I usually do.

[Kakizaki]

@getter77

^I guess if you purely look at what is coming out currently, then yeah, but at the same time, do we really need a glut of them?

I have never understood why people relate the dungeon crawling mechanics of rogue-likes to that of first person dungeon crawlers. Yeah you hang out in large dungeons and they are both generally game play reliant, but outside of that, I guess I just don't see it. If you turned SMT into a rogue-like, you would basically just have the Pokemon rogues (sorry names escape me). I really don't care to see a further breakdown of skill sets, items, and game play elements (negotiation etc).

[getter77]

Well, remember, my main point was merely a dovetail play on the notion of "Since it is on DS, they will kiddify it"---a notion prevalent due to there being a substantial number of perceived "kiddy" games, RPG and otherwise, on the DS. I was actually kinda going for injecting some optimism versus that sentiment. :)

There's no rule that says they'd have to go in a Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon style should there be a SMT Roguelike of some sort. I could see it working, somewhat, like Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup for the PC only with greatly increased emphasis on Transformations/Mutations of the player character or characters. Or they could go in a Dicin' Knight or Baroque style with their own touches and improvements added to the gist of things. Nothing to say Atlus couldn't create an entirely new variant unique unto itself like has happened several times now across the various graphical Roguelikes on the various platforms over the years.

We're all just guessing here and I could easily be wrong, likely too, but again...the point was that there are other more NIFTY guesses to put forth than "DS Kiddy SMT" even within that same somewhat forced logic. I also liked the AdventureGame notion.

[syl]

I wonder if this will be like Jack Brothers for the Virtual Boy?
Only time will tell...

[QBasic]

Why's everyone so excited...? We know nothing but the title accompanied by a purty logo.

I'm sure everyone here remembers NINE...it looked rad here and there, but when you pop it in...and fire it up...it was asstastic in a variety of fun colors and flavors.

[cj iwakura]

Atlus have been pretty consistent with quality since NINE, I think.
(And I still want to play that.)

[jj984jj]

Why's everyone so excited...? We know nothing but the title accompanied by a purty logo.

Because it's a new game in the Megaten series? We want to know what it is?


I'm sure everyone here remembers NINE...it looked rad here and there, but when you pop it in...and fire it up...it was asstastic in a variety of fun colors and flavors.

Why do you keep bringing up NINE? Atlus Co. completely outsourced the game and Nex has had nothing to do with them ever since.

[QBasic]

Because it's a new game in the Megaten series? We want to know what it is?
Is that a question, or an answer? Whatever it may be, it still wouldn't matter a damn, because it's time for Q to teach you test-tube baby a thing or two:
1-Digital Devil Saga IS NOT a Megami Tensei game
2-Persona is NOT a Megami Tensei game
3-Devil Summoner is NOT a Megami Tensei game

Seeing as Devil Survivor doesn't have a "Shin Megami Tensei" prefix...it also must not be a Megaten game. (The Megaten prefix addon Atlus USA condones to use is pure bualsheeyat).

Hence, since Devil Survivor isn't a Megaten game, there's no reason for you to get excited over a new entry to the series...since there is none. We haven't had one since Nocturne. I guess you COULD count Chronicles Edition...but whatever.


Why do you keep bringing up NINE? Atlus Co. completely outsourced the game and Nex has had nothing to do with them ever since.
Keep? This was just the second time...or first. It could be deja vu on my part. But whatever. I keep bringing it up because it's no different than kicking someone in the nuts. :3 NINE is the Achilles heel. NINE is Devil May Cry 2. NINE is Final Fantasy VIII. NINE is Dirge of Cerberus.

No matter how much you try to deny it or forget it, NINE will always be there, with "Shin Megami Tensei" and "Atlus" firmly embedded onto it. It's there to remind us all how, even with a series like SMT, things can go very, very wrong. It's there to teach us NOT to get blindly and overly-excited about something. Especially if we don't even know what the hell it is.

[System_Error]

Q that was unnecessary


It's a Megami Ibunroku game just like MIP was.


Persona is Megami Tensei pretty much
so is DDS
And Dev Summ

And FFVIII IS NOT A BAD GAME

[Inzaghi]

Because it's a new game in the Megaten series? We want to know what it is?
Is that a question, or an answer? Whatever it may be, it still wouldn't matter a damn, because it's time for Q to teach you test-tube baby a thing or two:
1-Digital Devil Saga IS NOT a Megami Tensei game
2-Persona is NOT a Megami Tensei game
3-Devil Summoner is NOT a Megami Tensei game

Seeing as Devil Survivor doesn't have a "Shin Megami Tensei" prefix...it also must not be a Megaten game. (The Megaten prefix addon Atlus USA condones to use is pure bualsheeyat).

Hence, since Devil Survivor isn't a Megaten game, there's no reason for you to get excited over a new entry to the series...since there is none. We haven't had one since Nocturne. I guess you COULD count Chronicles Edition...but whatever.

I've said this before, but I might as well bring it up again since it seems to be a common misconception. In Japan, all of the games you listed are considered to be sub-series of the Megami Tensei series. In fact, Atlus Japan used to operate an umbrella site for the entire series at megamitensei.jp (http://www.megamitensei.jp); it was abandoned some time ago in favor of their current AtlusNet approach, but as you can see on the Internet Archive (http://web.archive.org/web/20070202025654/http://www.megamitensei.jp/) version of the site, it covered Digital Devil Saga, Devil Summoner, and, yes, Persona.

It's understood to be true on both a corporate and fan level, even in Japan. The only difference between the American approach to the umbrella series and the Japanese approach is that over there, it's implicit, while here, it's made explicit in each game title since the series has much less of a history here.

So whatever else Devil Survivor turns out to be, it is most definitely a Megami Tensei game.

[System_Error]

Thanks Inz, you saved from posting a long rant about Spin-offs & Main games still being the same series.

[Futomimi]

sigh.

[RayFoxSith]

Oh, dear....

[Sei]

Inz wins.

It's a pretty name and logo, and the last time this brand was used, Persona was born. Not the clumsy Mark and Lunarvale one, mind you, but the awesome game that even with one of the crappiest localizations ever managed to shine through.

Thus I'm really looking forward to it. Sure, it might be a cutesy DS thing, but a name like "Goddess Metempsychosis Variant story: Devil Survivor" sort of hints at something... well, apocalyptic, dark, and not necessarily pinks and pastels DS pap. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic.

So we'll see, but honestly, I haven't seen or played anything that would make me lose faith in the Megaten brand, or in Atlus Japan.

I am not sure a outsourced product with a bumpy "Online or not online" history, born of Ms's donations solely and without any inspiration, feeling, or really, reason to be beyond that, and in which the actual people behind the series had rather limited involvement, is the best example of the quality of the series. Or of anything really. Also, Nocturne.

[Olethros]

^ Well said Sei.

[DamnedToBeFree]

lol "Q", you really taught us a thing or two alright. :roll:

[Kakizaki]

^I was gone all day, but since a few other posters have summed things pretty well in response to Q's post, let's let it die so the thread doesn't get ugly.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Okay.

Soooo...no new info until Nov.7th? I'm mildly interested.

[QBasic]

^I was gone all day, but since a few other posters have summed things pretty well in response to Q's post, let's let it die so the thread doesn't get ugly.
Alright.
http://webpages.shepherd.edu/ECOLLI02/chewy-chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg
Cookies for the test tub--I mean, MEMBERS! Cookies for all the members.

[illogicaldreamr]

Thus I'm really looking forward to it. Sure, it might be a cutesy DS thing, but a name like "Goddess Metempsychosis Variant story: Devil Survivor" sort of hints at something... well, apocalyptic, dark, and not necessarily pinks and pastels DS pap. Or maybe I'm just being optimistic.

The ad they've placed looks fairly dark to me. Not anything like the recent Persona games which are more bright colored and have catchy pop songs(Which I am guilty of enjoying).

[Iris]

The ad they've placed looks fairly dark to me. Not anything like the recent Persona games which are more bright colored and have catchy pop songs(Which I am guilty of enjoying).

Yes. This. One image admittedly isn't a lot to go on, but that one image seemed far closer to me to the atmosphere of the main series than to any of the spinoffs. (Which makes me go :D! a lot, personally!)

[Kakizaki]

(Which makes me go ! a lot, personally!)

Me too. Hopefully I don't get burned on that enthusiasm.

[Fuyukaze]

While I'm somewhat excited to hear about this, I'll wait untill they actualy provide some real info on the game. Things like genre, gameplay, screen shots, and such. Sure, if it's in the megaten universe, I'll wager it's got atleast an 80% chance I'll buy it. Thing is, if it's a first person shooter or such, chances are I'm not going to touch it no matter how great some call it.

[James Fiend]

While I'm somewhat excited to hear about this, I'll wait untill they actualy provide some real info on the game. Things like genre, gameplay, screen shots, and such. Sure, if it's in the megaten universe, I'll wager it's got atleast an 80% chance I'll buy it. Thing is, if it's a first person shooter or such, chances are I'm not going to touch it no matter how great some call it.
Even if you can wield the mighty Mara launcher?

[Fuyukaze]

While I'm somewhat excited to hear about this, I'll wait untill they actualy provide some real info on the game. Things like genre, gameplay, screen shots, and such. Sure, if it's in the megaten universe, I'll wager it's got atleast an 80% chance I'll buy it. Thing is, if it's a first person shooter or such, chances are I'm not going to touch it no matter how great some call it.
Even if you can wield the mighty Mara launcher?

Ok, if you play as Alice and fire mini pyro jacks from a bazoka and lob lil frost granades, I'll give it a try. Also, the boss should be something that looks truely scary. Maybe have the feinds as bosses.

[James Fiend]

While I'm somewhat excited to hear about this, I'll wait untill they actualy provide some real info on the game. Things like genre, gameplay, screen shots, and such. Sure, if it's in the megaten universe, I'll wager it's got atleast an 80% chance I'll buy it. Thing is, if it's a first person shooter or such, chances are I'm not going to touch it no matter how great some call it.
Even if you can wield the mighty Mara launcher?

Ok, if you play as Alice and fire mini pyro jacks from a bazoka and lob lil frost granades, I'll give it a try. Also, the boss should be something that looks truely scary. Maybe have the feinds as bosses.

A first person shooter utilizing Alice = Lawsuit. And I'm sure American McGee could use the money.

[Tatsuki]

Gosh this game looks pretty. But SRPG though...

I think Yuzu is my new love.

[jj984jj]

For some reason they went with the odd system, SRPG movement and traditional turn-based battles?? It's from the director of the Growlanser games.

I can't say I like the character art. Other than that it's wait-and-see for me since they a promise a movie when the website opens. I like the way the battles look though, and I love branching scenario SRPGs.

[RayFoxSith]

What.......?

[Olethros]

huh....?

[Evila]

I think they saw these. :V
http://gonintendo.com/?p=61836

Ah, the topic in the SMT forum also has some more info.

[Greyhawk]

Holy crap! Kaneko is doing the monster art? SOLD!

[Fuyukaze]

While I'm somewhat excited to hear about this, I'll wait untill they actualy provide some real info on the game. Things like genre, gameplay, screen shots, and such. Sure, if it's in the megaten universe, I'll wager it's got atleast an 80% chance I'll buy it. Thing is, if it's a first person shooter or such, chances are I'm not going to touch it no matter how great some call it.
Even if you can wield the mighty Mara launcher?

Ok, if you play as Alice and fire mini pyro jacks from a bazoka and lob lil frost granades, I'll give it a try. Also, the boss should be something that looks truely scary. Maybe have the feinds as bosses.

A first person shooter utilizing Alice = Lawsuit. And I'm sure American McGee could use the money.

I believe they'd find it hard to sue over it. Somehow I doubt they own the right to blond headed loli charcters.

[Kakizaki]

huh....?

Well, I believe it is time for me to acknowledge you were right and I was wrong.

I am very disappointed at this point, but I will leave it at that.....

[Olethros]

^ Bah, there's no need for that. I really didn't want my pessimism to be rewarded.

Who knows, though. It's only three scans. I can't imagine I won't support it regardless, but if things go as they seem I share your disappointment.

[Kakizaki]

Some scans look alright, but not the tone I was hoping for.

[Sei]

Known/speculated details thus far:



Director: Shinjiro Takada (Langrisser series, Growlanser series director)
Art Director: Akiko Koto (Nocturne, Devil Summoner 3)
Supervisor and Demon Design: Kazuma Kaneko (Megaten series)
Character Designer: Suzuhito Yasuda (Yozakura Quartet manga)
Positioning makes it look grid based.
-Little icons at the top of the screen make it seem like it's entirely turn-based.
-It looks like the icons on the map represent parties, with each party leader being having two demons by their side. Enemy groups also seem to have three enemies in each?
-EXTRA TURN appears next to the characters' nametags during battle. Is that a bonus for flanking the enemy, or a result of a press-turn-style system? Blizzard, Thunder, and Wind elements all seem to be returning.
-A separate screen for battles?
-Hopefully the seven-day time frame leads to a shorter game focused on a branching story. The Growlanser/Langrisser guy loves that sort of thing, and the SMT series has quite the history of it as well.

Source, neogaf http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340398&page=2

I really like the char designs cept for main, maybe, not Kaneko, but a lot better tha P3 imho.

[jj984jj]

If it really is using press turn in some form then I'll be there day 1. That + demon contracts = OMG I've wanted this game since DDS! I realize that DDS had no demon summoning, but I've been wanting press turn back in a game since then (it feels like AGES). I doubt this rumor is true though.

[Kakizaki]

Known/speculated details thus far:



Director: Shinjiro Takada (Langrisser series, Growlanser series director)
Art Director: Akiko Koto (Nocturne, Devil Summoner 3)
Supervisor and Demon Design: Kazuma Kaneko (Megaten series)
Character Designer: Suzuhito Yasuda (Yozakura Quartet manga)
Positioning makes it look grid based.
-Little icons at the top of the screen make it seem like it's entirely turn-based.
-It looks like the icons on the map represent parties, with each party leader being having two demons by their side. Enemy groups also seem to have three enemies in each?
-EXTRA TURN appears next to the characters' nametags during battle. Is that a bonus for flanking the enemy, or a result of a press-turn-style system? Blizzard, Thunder, and Wind elements all seem to be returning.
-A separate screen for battles?
-Hopefully the seven-day time frame leads to a shorter game focused on a branching story. The Growlanser/Langrisser guy loves that sort of thing, and the SMT series has quite the history of it as well.

Source, neogaf http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340398&page=2

I really like the char designs cept for main, maybe, not Kaneko, but a lot better tha P3 imho.

Based on some of this, maybe I will have to be less hasty. I just wish the art style and tone was closer to Majin Tensei.

[Sei]

I think it's fairly close to the first Persona: High school kids, Devil summoning program in a shape or another. The gear in the screenshots/arts also reminds me a bit of the computer setups in SMT 1 and 2.

Majin Tensei like would be neat, but it sounds pretty okay so far. I like the idea of multiple endings with branching stories, demon negotiation and srpg. been a while since a smt one and I think it could really work.

Edit: Even more info + translation courtesy of jj984jj pasted here for your convenience:

A bunch of translations of what Famitsu had, I think RPGFan did the best/most accurate summary (lol 1UP) so I quoted them:
Atlus today announced first details regarding Megami Ibunroku Devil Survivor, its recently revealed DS title. The game, whose development is already 90% complete, is a strategy RPG taking place in modern day Tokyo. Kazuma Kaneko is serving as the game's demon designer and supervisor. Directing responsibilities rest with Shinjirou Takada (whose has previously worked on the Growlanser and Langrisser series). Art design is handled by Akiko Kotou, whose recent track record includes working on Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne and Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. the Soulless Army.

Because of the appearance of demons in Tokyo, the Japanese self defense forces have sealed off the center of the capital city. Trapped inside the sealed off area, the protagonists are fighting off demons, trying to survive. Unfortunately, the clock is ticking and within a week Tokyo will be wiped out, meaning there is little time to waste. Using a mobile gaming device known as COMP, the protagonist can make deals with demons, persuading them to assist his party in battle. Atlus is promising the additions of new demons not seen in previous installments of the Megami Ibunroku series.

The development team promises to tell a dark tale in classic Shin Megami Tensei fashion. The scenario will feature multiple branches that can be freely explored. Through meticulous interviews, the team has been able to create a virtual Tokyo in the game that should feel very real. Battles apparently will be fast-paced.

The protagonist is a 17-year old senior high school. Apart from this nameless hero, two more characters were revealed in today's update: Atsurou Kihara and Yuzu Tanigawa are classmates and friends of the protagonist. Aiming to become a programmer, the former is a gadget geek. The latter is a childhood friend who happens to have some interest in her classmate.

Megami Ibunroku Devil Survivor will be available in Japan on January 15th for 4,980 yen ($50.17 USD)
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1491.html (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2008/1491.html)
http://www.siliconera.com/2008/11/05/devil-survivor-turns-shibuya-to-a-strategy-rpg-playground/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/11/05/devil-survivor-turns-shibuya-to-a-strategy-rpg-playground/)
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171129 (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171129)

Makes it sound even more like Persona (walled off section of Tokyo) and SMT (Potential nuclear strike! [Majin Thor?]) Really looking forward to this. ULTRA DAY ONE.

[QBasic]

This almost seems like a complete World Ends With You ripoff.

Or...that's what I'd like to say...but seeing as Atlus was making trendy, hip games before SE....

[Kaibigan]

This almost seems like a complete World Ends With You ripoff.

Or...that's what I'd like to say...but seeing as Atlus was making trendy, hip games before SE....

If there are pins used for attacks, fashion being a part in the game dealing with combat statistics, and a douche with headphones, then it would be a complete rip-off.

[SickleCellAnemia]

and a douche with headphones
Does a headphone cable count? :D

[Kaibigan]

and a douche with headphones
Does a headphone cable count? :D

i guess, but he has to be confirmed as a douche.

douche.

sorry to hear about your loss of palin. :(

[SickleCellAnemia]

sorry to hear about your loss of palin. :(
I'm a sad, sad Palin! :frown: Changed the signature to reflect this.

[QBasic]

sorry to hear about your loss of palin. :(
I'm a sad, sad Palin! :frown: Changed the signature to reflect this.
Go back to your Hockey ring. We got games with headphone-wearin' douches to play!

[SickleCellAnemia]

Go back to your Hockey ring. We got games with headphone-wearin' douches to play!
At least Palin didn't have a meltdown at Digital Devil Database.

[QBasic]

Go back to your Hockey ring. We got games with headphone-wearin' douches to play!
At least Palin didn't have a meltdown at Digital Devil Database.
Uh huh. You know, I just noticed a similarity between Palin and DDDB: Both are failures. :)

Besides, it wasn't a meltdown...! >_< It was clear as water that guy wasn't listening to anyone. Anyone. Man, that guy made me miss Tony even more... But I'll admit...I did lose my cool. With good reason...

[Kakizaki]

Come on guys, drop the off-topic stuff. I'm totally cool with a little, but this is getting massively derailed.

[Xfraze]

Known/speculated details thus far:


Character Designer: Suzuhito Yasuda (Yozakura Quartet manga)

I really like the char designs cept for main, maybe, not Kaneko, but a lot better tha P3 imho.

I really like the Yasuda-san's art style.

[syl]

The MC reminds me of countless fans I've seen at comic book conventions.
I guess he'll grow on me.
I don't know how well the Harlot will look on the super-deformed dimensions of a SRPG grid. The Jack Brothers are cute enough to pass in this format.
However, I still look forward to this game.

[greydrak]

Well, the teaser site's up. Not much else other than the somewhat gloomy environment and the spinning red (eye?) thing. This should be an interesting game to keep track of...those screenshots just aren't quite enough....

http://ds.atlusnet.jp/

[Kakizaki]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.

[QBasic]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.
I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3

[RayFoxSith]

It's a spin-off series, IMO.

[Iris]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.
I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3

I would classify including character cameos as a slightly different beast as including sections on entire games.

If the KH book had a section entirely on Final Fantasy VII itself, and not just Cloud/Sephiroth/etc as they appear in KH, then you'd have a case.

[QBasic]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.
I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3

I would classify including character cameos as a slightly different beast as including sections on entire games.

If the KH book had a section entirely on Final Fantasy VII itself, and not just Cloud/Sephiroth/etc as they appear in KH, then you'd have a case.

It does (sort of). It's a little world called Hollow Bastion. :3 Nuttin' but Final Fantasy there.
It's a spin-off series, IMO.
KH is an FF spin off........???

...News to me.

[Sei]

Oh Kaki. Is that a SMT book in general, or a Kazuma Kaneko art book? Since he worked in most SMT games, the latter would prove little.

Kingdom hearts is a remix of Square and Disney characters and probably a bad example of what is part of a series or not. But I'd say FF characters are a big part of it.

Also, Isn't Hitoshura in DDS?

But really, just how obvious does it have to be that the games have a relationship to each other, most of the Ps3 ones use the same engines, have the same bestiaries (or slightly differen't ones), the same monster descriptions, share a lot of systems, a lot of the time have the same artist, etc, etc?

I don't mind Atlus putting the subtitle here, I've actually heard people asking at Ebgames about "the new Shin Megami Tensei" game. Who knows, maybe I'tll be a FF one day!.

[RayFoxSith]

It's a spin-off series, IMO.
KH is an FF spin off........???

...News to me.

Notice the words, "IMO" in my post.

IMO.

In
My
Opinion

[QBasic]

Oh Kaki. Is that a SMT book in general, or a Kazuma Kaneko art book? Since he worked in most SMT games, the latter would prove little.

Kingdom hearts is a remix of Square and Disney characters and probably a bad example of what is part of a series or not. But I'd say FF characters are a big part of it.

Also, Isn't Hitoshura in DDS?

But really, just how obvious does it have to be that the games have a relationship to each other, most of the Ps3 ones use the same engines, have the same bestiaries (or slightly differen't ones), the same monster descriptions, share a lot of systems, a lot of the time have the same artist, etc, etc?

I don't mind Atlus putting the subtitle here, I've actually heard people asking at Ebgames about "the new Shin Megami Tensei" game. Who knows, maybe I'tll be a FF one day!.
You know...this is gonna come as a shock to you twofold: Compared to this one dude, I'm not bitching about the subtitle as much...

And this dude...just so happened to have been a Gamestop clerk. If you want to, you can check to see if hell froze over now.

Okay, as I was saying...I went to order Persona 4, and the dude just sorta started to geek out, but not in a creepy sort of way...just, a gamer way. Quickly soon, the conversation between us switched about the SMT subtitle, and went headfirst into a solo-bitching round featuring him moaning about the subtitle.

Then I looked at the purty sample boxart for Prince of Persia. Me wants.

[StrikeRaider]

I honestly had no idea what IMO meant. Thank you. And The World Ends With You was awesome. Awesome soundtrack.

Otherwise I have no idea where this is going.

[QBasic]

I honestly had no idea what IMO meant. Thank you. And The World Ends With You was awesome. Awesome soundtrack.

Otherwise I have no idea where this is going.
You know, I really really hope Shoji doesn't attempt a WEWY soundtrack...

Sorry to say it, but Takeharu Ishimoto is basically the Nobou Uematsu of our day...a one of a kind. And I want it to stay that way, without clones, veterans or not.

[Kakizaki]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.
I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3

You are really kind of a smart ass. Does the Ultimania book set up similarities, reoccurring characters, and themes that KH and FF share? The book that I have has charts that cross details relations between characters in several of the franchises.

As Inzaghi mentioned previously, Megaten is an umbrella.

Oh Kaki. Is that a SMT book in general, or a Kazuma Kaneko art book? Since he worked in most SMT games, the latter would prove little.

If it was a KK art book, I would have called it a KK art book. This book details many of the titles in the franchise. In one section of the book, it looks at the similarities of the protagonists even cross referencing items of clothing.

[QBasic]

You know, I hate to revive this argument, but I can't believe I have never thought of mentioning this before. I own a 10th anniversary Megami Tensei book from around '97. It does in fact include Devil Summoner, Persona, and a ton of others right alongside the original MT and SMT titles.
I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3

You are really kind of a smart ass. Does the Ultimania book set up similarities, reoccurring characters, and themes that KH and FF share? The book that I have has charts that cross details relations between characters in several of the franchises.

As Inzaghi mentioned previously, Megaten is an umbrella.

Oh, comon now. Why gotta bring up name calling and insulting in here? I sure as hell didn't dis anyone here...I was just trying to make a point!

Besides, YOU brought the argument back up...not me.

[Kakizaki]

A) I didn't insult anyone -- It was a pretty basic observation. I'm sure I could point out more than a few instances regarding something you have said in this thread (test tube babies, I'm going to educate you all, the cookie pic) that could be considered insulting and condescending. Leave it at that.

B) It was less about trying to resurrect an argument and more about an observation. One that is founded on hard evidence as opposed to opinion.

C) If you have a problem with that, you can PM me.

[Sei]

Kaki: OIC.

Is anyone even still arguing that etc etc etc are NOT SMT titles? I thought it was all settled before :(

Also, scans please :)

[Kakizaki]

A point about what? Does Square have an all encompassing FF website like Atlus for Megaten? Is there a book that exists that attempts to tie them together? Or is this just another example of you attempting to argue for arguments sake?

Sei, can't a person make a simple observation about something without people getting bent all out of shape? Everybody else decided to take my comment and run with it.

I'm not sacrificing the binding on this book for scans. I haven't seen it around much.

[Sei]

Huh? about you bringing it up. Boy you seem irritable today, Kakizaki. And I don't argue for arguments sake.

[Kakizaki]

^Like I said, I thought we had moved beyond the point of people running away with what people bring up here. Maybe that is the source of my irritation.

[QBasic]

A point about what? Does Square have an all encompassing FF website like Atlus for Megaten? Is there a book that exists that attempts to tie them together? Or is this just another example of you attempting to argue for arguments sake?

Sei, can't a person make a simple observation about something without people getting bent all out of shape? Everybody else decided to take my comment and run with it.

I'm not sacrificing the binding on this book for scans. I haven't seen it around much.
Isn't it illegal too to scan and upload? =_=

Anyways, I ain't getting bent outta shape... You tell that to the Gamestop clerk that I discovered a few days ago. I'm just presenting my view.

And as a matter of fact...there IS a book that ties pretty much everything SE together, it's titled "Cloud." Volume 2 is actually penned to be released early next year, be sure to look into it. >_> (Actually, Cloud isn't so much as SE stuff...as it is more Nomura stuff...)

[Sei]

The only person bent out of shape is Kakizaki. Nice name calling. "Argue for argument's sake?"

Jesus. You sure seem to value discussion a lot.

[unknown]

I'm disappointed that Kazuma Kaneko didn't do the character designs, but I'll still check it out when it comes out and when I get a DS Lite.

[Kakizaki]

[quote]"Cloud." Volume 2 is actually penned to be released early next year, be sure to look into it. >_> (Actually, Cloud isn't so much as SE stuff...as it is more Nomura stuff...[\quote]

Get back to me when that book is titled something like FF anthology works or anniversary guide and ties all the games, KH and whatever else, together. Not just places them in a book, but attempts to make something out of the relationship they share.

[QBasic]

[quote]"Cloud." Volume 2 is actually penned to be released early next year, be sure to look into it. >_> (Actually, Cloud isn't so much as SE stuff...as it is more Nomura stuff...[\quote]

Get back to me when that book is titled something like FF anthology works or anniversary guide and ties all the games, KH and whatever else, together. Not just places them in a book, but attempts to make something out of the relationship they share.
You're unbelievable.

Screw this. If you wanna call this argument "your win", fine, whatever. But I don't want anything to do with it. It just ain't worth it for me. I have better things to do.

[Sei]

I agree. Did you wake up and decide you needed some reassural today Kakizaki? I don't even see anyone arguing with you.

Randomly insulting people, too? Shouldn't a moderator show a bit more decorum than calling someone a "smart ass?", or "Arguing for argument's sake" when YOU brought the thing up in the first place?. I thought the passive agressive BS was the realm of Arlus, sorry to see I am wrong. Truly dissapointed, too.

It's not even about whether you are right, it's about you being a Jerk today. I am done talking about this. I'll post more info on the game when it's available. Hope you are happy Kakizaki, you win an internet.

[Kakizaki]

^I PMed you long before you made that post Sei. Thank you for reinforcing what I thought.



Anyway, I did lose my cool in reference to Qbasic's response earlier and for that I apologize. It had less to do with his response to me, and more to do with his tone earlier which I felt was pretty condescending to other posters -- so I was snippy. Still, it was undeserved. Instead of editing my posts, I will leave them so people know what I am talking about.

[SickleCellAnemia]

I have the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ Ultimania Book right here. And oh, lookie, Squall and Sephiroth are in it! :3

Does that make Kingdom Hearts a Final Fantasy game? >:3
With this logic I should call SMTIII: Nocturne a Devil May Cry game because Dante's in it.

[Kakizaki]

^You know, it is totally my fault this was even brought up again. I should have worded my initial post regarding that book differently. Not knocking you at all Sickle. Like I said, it is my fault.

If we want have a discussion for this, maybe we should start a new thread.

[QBasic]

^You know, it is totally my fault this was even brought up again. I should have worded my initial post regarding that book differently. Not knocking you at all Sickle. Like I said, it is my fault.

If we want have a discussion for this, maybe we should start a new thread.
I agree.

Devil Survivor!!! Umm...here's a question...for an SRPG...why's it called "Survivor?" =_= ...Survival elements perhaps?

[StrikeRaider]

Because you survive the demonic apocalypse duh. Oh and trying to survive not getting nuked or whatever.

[Sei]

Needs more Majin Thor!

[QBasic]

Because you survive the demonic apocalypse duh. Oh and trying to survive not getting nuked or whatever.
A trendy post-apocalyptic Shibuya....?

...Snazzy. Instead of duking it out for a can of dog food in killer cars, they summon demons to get their hands on that last pair of Nike sneakers...

[Sei]

http://i36.tinypic.com/261f8jo.jpghttp://i37.tinypic.com/732k4h.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2m4ub9f.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2lo5h7d.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/258m2rn.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/34o67it.jpg


http://i34.tinypic.com/aoxl3q.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/ehhoyc.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/1041c9y.jpg


Here are some screenshots and such. I reaaaaaally love the girl's character art. I believe Flonne may get replaced when/if I get around to Photoshopping it to the right size.

[unknown]

Is the blue haired guy the main character?

[Sei]

I think so, he sorta gives me that vibe, but I don't think it has been announced or anything. Selectable sex of main 4tw.

Dig the new sig!

[StrikeRaider]

That sig has been JACKED HARDCORE. And I finally figured it out. The cord is for summoning/capturing demons. Like Raidou's tubes. Only not for storage.

[jeffx]

Sei!!! Nice new avatar. Big change in your life huh?

[Sei]

Thanks! :). I hope I cropped it okay and stuff. I wish there was a better pic

I was sold at Pocky!.

Will miss flonne!.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Bewbs are visible. That's what matters.

[QBasic]

Thanks! :). I hope I cropped it okay and stuff. I wish there was a better pic

I was sold at Pocky!.

Will miss flonne!.
For some reason...as much as I like that character...it's reminding me of Rumiko Takahashi.

I HAAATE Rumiko. With a passion! >:<

...Cool character though! =^.^=

[jj984jj]

I think so, he sorta gives me that vibe, but I don't think it has been announced or anything. Selectable sex of main 4tw.

Dig the new sig!

They do say, he's the unnamed protagonist. The other characters are Atsuro Kihara and Yuzu Tanikawa.

Nice avatar change. You got moar bewbs, less pocky. Just the way I like it. ;) :p

[cj iwakura]

Unknown, what the heck is going on in your sig?

[QBasic]

Unknown, what the heck is going on in your sig?
You know...my sig's pretty badass too... T_T

[dragonlife29]

Thanks! :). I hope I cropped it okay and stuff. I wish there was a better pic

I was sold at Pocky!.

Will miss flonne!.Doesn't it say Rocky? :P


You know...my sig's pretty badass too... T_T

You should see mine! =O Though, I did get moderated for them elsewhere =(

[Sei]

It does, but we all know what it really means :D

[cj iwakura]

Unknown, what the heck is going on in your sig?
You know...my sig's pretty badass too... T_T

Not really sure what's going on there either. :P

[QBasic]

Unknown, what the heck is going on in your sig?
You know...my sig's pretty badass too... T_T

Not really sure what's going on there either. :P
Watch Death Proof. Then, you'll laugh your ass off every time you see my sig. ;-)

[Futomimi]

I watched Death Proof... still not really that funny. or amazing.

[QBasic]

I watched Death Proof... still not really that funny. or amazing.
Then you sir, have absolutely no taste. :<

[SickleCellAnemia]

I watched Death Proof... still not really that funny. or amazing.
Then you sir, have absolutely no taste. :<
LOLOLOLOL :lol:

[System_Error]

I watched Death Proof... still not really that funny. or amazing.
Then you sir, have absolutely no taste. :<




Close....


Wait no, nowhere near close.

[Olethros]

This thread has served to teach me one very important point: How thankless and annoying being a Mod can be. Kaki has an awful lot to contend with here.

[Futomimi]

I watched Death Proof... still not really that funny. or amazing.
Then you sir, have absolutely no taste. :<

Says the guy that finds creativity in Disgaea? lol.

[Kakizaki]

Since we have all gotten in our shots now, let's just concentrate on DS.

[shimo]

:agree:

[Juanblue85]

Here is the first trailer of Devil Survivor brought to you by Gamekyo.com

http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen13546_devil-survivor-first-story-video.html

[RayFoxSith]

I can't stand it when they have a trailer for a game and not have a single shot of any gameplay.

[Sanctine]

I can't stand it when they have a trailer for a game and not have a single shot of any gameplay.

That pisses me off, too. And it gets more frequent as time goes on with Japanese games.

[syl]

Well, it doesn't come out until January.
They gotta build the hype...a lot...

[slayn]

With the game less than three months away, you'd think they'd showcase the gameplay.

[Sanctine]

They gotta build the hype...a lot...

Not showing the game is building hype?

[syl]

They gotta build the hype...a lot...

Not showing the game is building hype?

Yeah, it's a somewhat of risky approach when it comes to advertising/marketing.
The whole idea is to maintain our curiosity and let our imaginations go wild.
Remember the first teaser for the live-action Transformer movie; I didn't see any robots in disguise.

[Sei]

I just remember these ones from Transformers. Better than the movie, too imho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDj9NBNUUqI

[Kakizaki]

They gotta build the hype...a lot...

Not showing the game is building hype?

Yeah, it's a somewhat of risky approach when it comes to advertising/marketing.
The whole idea is to maintain our curiosity and let our imaginations go wild.
Remember the first teaser for the live-action Transformer movie; I didn't see any robots in disguise.

That was also a considerable amount further ahead of the picture's release than the window here is with Devil Survivor -- not to mention 99.9% of people knew exactly what was being dealt with in Transformers.

You would have a little more to stand on if art and screen shots for the game weren't already available.

[DamageCity]

Judging by the screenshots, I really hope there is no voice acting in this game.

[QBasic]

They gotta build the hype...a lot...

Not showing the game is building hype?
That's Nomura's strategy.

It's a horrible strategy IMO.

[Kakizaki]

^It's a strategy you see in regards to many Japanese games. This really isn't exclusive.

[QBasic]

^It's a strategy you see in regards to many Japanese games. This really isn't exclusive.
Well, whatever the case, it's pretty disrespectful to the fans, I think.

[Kakizaki]

I agree.

[unknown]

Site is now up and running with goodies

http://ds.atlusnet.jp/

And those goodies unfortunately suck

[syl]

Yeah, the goodies are kinda lame.
The countdown for the launch for Devil Summoner 2's website was more interesting. Plus, that site had more goodies once revealed.
Maybe, Atlus is playing it a little to cautious.

[Olethros]

^ or they know it's sub-par and don't want to turn people off from it too early.

[QBasic]

Some new/old but highquality screenshots:
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0811/game081112a.shtml

[toszi]

Shoutout to SickleCellAnemia for having an awesome avatar. :D

[SickleCellAnemia]

^Thank you fellow Golden Girls fan!

[QBasic]

^Thank you fellow Golden Girls fan!
O____O That does it... Now I'll have to get creative on my part...

PS...Awesome avatar...

[Kakizaki]

Pre-House Hugh Laurie is what is considered creative these days?...

[QBasic]

Pre-House Hugh Laurie is what is considered creative these days?...
Why not?

EDIT: Creative enough for you?

[shimo]

3 new screenshots.
Here the link:

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/142/14294464/imgs_1.html?RSSwhen2008-11-25_155000&RSSid=933860

[Ike.]

It'll be a first person shooter taking place in the Devil Summoner universe.

(Hence 'Survivor')



I kid.

Hopefully.

GOTY 2010

[Juanblue85]

Nice! it looks like we will be using our DS in-game to summon demons.

[jj984jj]

Yeah, the COMP device looks like a DS. This week's Famitsu reveals 2 more characters, Kaidō and Mari, and talks more about the demons:
http://i39.tinypic.com/ve9mj7.jpghttp://i39.tinypic.com/2dmh8wj.jpghttp://i44.tinypic.com/5mbhp2.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/25a2hed.jpg

- devil union: merger of 2 devils
- at least 130 types of devils
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=14037992#post14037992

[Towel]

This'll be the first DS game I actually buy.

[sfried]

This would be my first foray and introductory game to the Megaten series.

[etrianfan]

Yes Atlus, please bring this game over, along with Elminage DS Remix, and Summon Night X: Tears Crown! Please!!!

[ivan_the_one]

I saw the trailer and it looks badass! I have only one question. is the music in the trailer going to be the same quality in the game? because I don't think the ds can handle it.

[dragonlife29]

Come oooon, Atlus USAAAAA! :D I hope you're already playing this baby to see if it's good enough to bring over =) PLEASE DO :D

[Darkined]

this game is going to be shin megami awesomeness afterall the jack brothers are in it!!!

Also the trailers look awesome on the japanese site, this should definitely be ported and it can be bannered under the smt franchise

[four_black_hearts]

Yes. And. Please.

[Chewbaccaguy]

Just saw the trailer and looks like this game is made of win :D DS needs more SRPG even though theres tons of them out there now

[four_black_hearts]

:agree: !!! If there's going to be such a glut of them, I at least want the ones with some substance!

[Divals]

Ooh, it's 3/4 pseudo-3D sprites.

...want, day one, et cetera.

[jeffx]

Strong sales on release week! Think it would do as well here?

02. Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor (DS) - 55,000 / NEW

Second only to Mario Tennis (wiimake) at 57K...

[Zachalmighty]

Strong sales on release week! Think it would do as well here?

02. Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor (DS) - 55,000 / NEW

Second only to Mario Tennis (wiimake) at 57K...

This confirms we NEEED IT

[four_black_hearts]

:agree: NEEED.

[Evila]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=70674

Another leak, or a mistake? Dun dun dunnnnnnn!

[jeffx]

looks pretty solid to me. whole lotta Atlus Faifthful emails in the coming weeks!

[Evila]

looks pretty solid to me. whole lotta Atlus Faifthful emails in the coming weeks!

Yeah, especially since they're listing Knights in the Knightmare too. I'm just seeing the word 'Devil' too much today so I was terribly confused when I first glanced at it, haha.

[sfried]

Hallelujah!!!

[Zachalmighty]

Where's my Original Generations gaiden GAME?! OI DOKODA?

Though this is good news.

[etrianfan]

If this is true then yay!!!

Now bring over Elminage DS Remix, and Summon Night X: Tears Crown and i'll be even more happy.

[Zeta_Nova]

Where's my Original Generations gaiden GAME?! OI DOKODA?

Though this is good news.

Personally. I was also hoping that SRT OG [PS2] would've been also given the leak along with Endless Frontier.

[jj984jj]

Looks like Nintendo Power had the exclusive unveiling:
http://i44.tinypic.com/4j74og.jpg
http://kotaku.com/5142494/indiana-jones-and-the-staff-of-kings-revealed-in-new-nintendo-power

[Inzaghi]

Looks like Nintendo Power had the exclusive unveiling:

Had. :(

[Enzeru]

Too bad I haven't renewed my NP subscription for awhile now.

[Zeta_Nova]

As for this game though. I'm hoping for like a combination of actors that do Bandai Entertainment and FUNimation related animes as well.

Most notably;
- Todd Haberkorn
- Travis Willingham
- Caitlin Glass
- Stephanie Sheh etc...

[Inzaghi]

As for this game though. I'm hoping for like a combination of actors that do Bandai Entertainment and FUNimation related animes as well.

There's no voice acting in the game.

Also, the first two pages of Nintendo Power's preview feature are now posted online (http://www.nintendopower.com/images/NP239_Shin.jpg).

[jeffx]

Cool thanks for the link. I want to see what they have to say about The Dark Spire though.

[Pibbman]

As for this game though. I'm hoping for like a combination of actors that do Bandai Entertainment and FUNimation related animes as well.

There's no voice acting in the game.

Also, the first two pages of Nintendo Power's preview feature are now posted online (http://www.nintendopower.com/images/NP239_Shin.jpg).

Oooh yeah, this game here is THE biggest reason why I'm buying a DS again. Very excited, and the fact that its in Nintendo Power only adds creditability to the rumors of it's stateside announcement.

[FewtureMD]

I hope this gets better press and marketing ant the last SMT game to come stateside. Demi-kids any one?

[Inzaghi]

I hope this gets better press and marketing ant the last SMT game to come stateside. Demi-kids any one?

Um... what? (http://www.atlus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5)

[Kakizaki]

^Don't deny it! You remember what happened in '96! When will you guys make up for it?!?! When???































:P

[jeffx]

This was obviously a deep and advanced form of sarcasm (*from the future*) that flew way over both of your heads.

[Kakizaki]

^I'm not sure if your comment was that funny, but for some reason I really loled. ;)


Maybe it is my mood right now.

[Olethros]

It was pretty damned funny Kaki. I laughed anyway. 'course it's getting close to 5pm so I am somewhat goofier than usual. ;)

[FewtureMD]

to explain, in '03, Atlus localized SMT: Devil Children Book of Dark/Book of Light, the latest in a series begun on the GBC. They are actually part of the SMT series, just look at any of the ads or one of the cartridges, and under the logo, in 1 mm high script are the words " Shin Megami Tensei". They have all the hallmarks of a regular SMT game, like contracting with demons, and the fact that only the human could level up through battle. Unfortunately, critics played for 5 minutes, called it a pokemon clone, and continued fawning over the latest space-marine FPS to hit the market. (i like a good fps myself, btw) Atlus will need to make sure that this new DS game gets the marketing it deserves. Sorry for being so long-winded...

[FewtureMD]

oh, and good catch jeffx, at SOMEBODY was paying attention :-P

[Zeta_Nova]

As for official site. Will it look something like this (http://ds.atlusnet.jp/index.html)?

[jeffx]

oh, and good catch jeffx, at SOMEBODY was paying attention :-P

Yes, I noticed you just accidentally a Coke bottle.

[FewtureMD]

oh, and good catch jeffx, at SOMEBODY was paying attention :-P

Yes, I noticed you just accidentally a Coke bottle.

I don't get it...

[jeffx]

oh, and good catch jeffx, at SOMEBODY was paying attention :-P

Yes, I noticed you just accidentally a Coke bottle.

I don't get it...

It was a test; you pass. God this is off-topic now. Ban me plz!!!

[FewtureMD]

but seriously, these games were GOOD. In fact they spawned another RPG set right afterwards, and an RTS... all for GBA! and the story was way better than "collect the eight shiny things". I mean, time was going to loop until it destroyed itself! pokemon could never pull that off.
that these games didn't garner any decent sales figures was a crime. No wonder we didn't get any other off beat GBA RPGs, like Mother 3 or Magical Vacation.

[Kakizaki]

to explain, in '03, Atlus localized SMT: Devil Children Book of Dark/Book of Light, the latest in a series begun on the GBC. They are actually part of the SMT series, just look at any of the ads or one of the cartridges, and under the logo, in 1 mm high script are the words " Shin Megami Tensei". They have all the hallmarks of a regular SMT game, like contracting with demons, and the fact that only the human could level up through battle. Unfortunately, critics played for 5 minutes, called it a pokemon clone, and continued fawning over the latest space-marine FPS to hit the market. (i like a good fps myself, btw) Atlus will need to make sure that this new DS game gets the marketing it deserves. Sorry for being so long-winded...

I'm pretty sure Inz understood your point. That is why he referenced all of the SMT related games that have came out in the U.S. since Demikids.

[cj iwakura]

I bought a GBA just for DemiKids.

Wasn't disappointed.

[Kenji]

I'm gonna throw my voice in to call for this game and say I'll buy it instantly, even though it's all but confirmed.

I need a more compelling DS game and I've been hearing this one's pretty damn good. If the rumor of it being a side-story to SMT1 taking place during the JSDF's Tokyo cordon is true, that's even more reason to be excited. For some reason, it being at all related to the original timeline feels extremely compelling to me, even though I'd enjoy this game no matter what continuity it was in.

The art and music styles have also grown on me, and since the music's streamed, all the better. :)