It would be nice if Teddie summoned his persona by saying, "Bear-sona!"

[OmniImmortal]

Wouldn't it? Bear puns ftw!

[Avenr]

It would be even cooler if his persona were pedobear. xD
It would be really cute if he did that. xD

[Hamel]

I would laugh if he did that

[Inzaghi]

Way, way ahead of you.

[XenoAcid]

Way, way ahead of you.
Oh dear. :D

[Kaisos Erranon]

Oh hell yes.

[unknown]

Oh god.

[punkrocker_271]

^oh for god sakes please dont be in the game

[dragonlife29]

Way, way ahead of you.=O

:D

[Sseklebeast]

Rofl I love it and hate it at the same time.

[Rikuo]

O.o
Dear god that would be cute, funny, creepy, and awesome at the same time

[QBasic]

It certainly isn't un-bear-able. :-D

[Hamel]

It certainly isn't un-bear-able. :-D

I request that you change your nickname to Ikutsuki now

[QBasic]

It certainly isn't un-bear-able. :-D

I request that you change your nickname to Ikutsuki now
That was bear-ly clever.

[dragonlife29]

Speaking of Teddie, I love his voice :D

[QBasic]

Speaking of Teddie, I love his voice :D
It's bearific.

[Olethros]

Rofl I love it and hate it at the same time.

:agree:

[slayn]

This is a horrible idea.

[DamnedToBeFree]

This is a horrible idea.

:agree:

[Onion of Mystery]

It's just ursine of the times.

[James Fiend]

This is clearly an important selling point.

[Kakizaki]

This is a horrible idea.

:agree:

It's just ursine of the times.


That........was horrible.

[StrikeRaider]

Nah this idea bearly great.

[Kakizaki]

I'm reallllly hoping this is a joke.

[Ike.]

Way, way ahead of you.

stop ruining this franchise

[Camanche]

It's just ursine of the times.

That totally made me laugh, it was so bad. :D

[OmniImmortal]

Don't know why some of you are hating on this idea...

It definitely ain't ruining the franchise. I find it pretty clever...

[James Fiend]

It's a weird little bear. What could he say that isn't ridiculous?

[Olethros]

^ In and of itself, it's a minor annoyance. I think the fact that it's a representation of a larger trend is what has people irritated.

[StrikeRaider]

Then blame the japanese people not the translators. I think Teddie and his puns are bear-y adorable.

[Kakizaki]

@Olethros

^Bingo.

I know where this might be headed, but I will say this; SMT has always had some light-hearted and silly characters, but their tone was still decidedly different retaining some characteristics that could be enjoyed by an older demographic. I'm not so sure of some of the recent additions.

Although who knows....maybe he says something the equivalent of Bear-sona in the JP version? I hope not.........

[Kaisos Erranon]

^ In and of itself, it's a minor annoyance. I think the fact that it's a representation of a larger trend is what has people irritated.

What larger trend? Bad puns?

Oh, come on. Ikutsuki was awesome because of the puns.

"Tired of seafood? They also make GROUND beef!"

Teddie is going to be just as awesome, if not more so because all his puns have a theme.

[Kakizaki]

Then blame the japanese people not the translators. I think Teddie and his puns are bear-y adorable.


Easy dude. No one really outlined where their "blame" was focused. For all you know Olethros is referring to the direction of the series in Japan as well.

That being said, it isn't always in the best interest of the game to stick with exactly the same dialog -- although I realize some people do get pretty upset (I have from time to time). IIRC the dialog in Vagrant Story was pretty bland compared to the English localization.

FTR, I couldn't stand Ikutsuki.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Japanese Teddie says "Per-kuma", so that's really the only way to translate it.

I've never played older SMT games, but I fail to see how them becoming more light-hearted is a BAD thing.

This one seems to still rely on mature themes, like, hmm, serial killings.

The 90's was too GRIM AND DARK, in any case. Good to see some idealism.

[Kakizaki]

^That is your opinion and you are totally entitled to it, but some of us were attracted to the darker elements of SMT and feel the series has shifted dramatically. Some of us feel kind of neglected / alienated. It wouldn't be a "BAD" thing if it wasn't a persistent trend. Serial killings, violence, and whatnot don't automatically equate to substance that mature audiences enjoy. It is how they are handled. Anyway, this has been gone over a lot here though and there isn't much of a need to now. It wasn't really the point of the thread.

The 90s were dark? Dude, every decade has moments of darkness. Idealism? Did you happen to witness the decay of authoritarian forms of communism in the Eastern European bloc in the late 80s and early 90s? Please....comments like that are highly subjective. I honestly believe many people could find rational reasons to believe that the current state of the world is much darker than the 90s. The nineties I grew up in were filled with pastel colored clothes, the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, and boy bands. Hardly dark and grim.

[slayn]

Japanese Teddie says "Per-kuma", so that's really the only way to translate it.

I've never played older SMT games, but I fail to see how them becoming more light-hearted is a BAD thing.

This one seems to still rely on mature themes, like, hmm, serial killings.

The 90's was too GRIM AND DARK, in any case. Good to see some idealism.


There are enough RPGs out there that deal with idealism. The grim atmosphere and dark themes are the exact things that made the SMT series stand out from the background noise, and a lot of this has been sacrificed to make the games more mainstream.

For the record, I enjoyed both Persona 1 and 2 (and will play Innocent Sin once I mod my PSP), and I also enjoyed Persona 3 and have pre-ordered Persona 4. At the same time, when comparing the older games to the newer ones, I can definitely understand how older fans are turned off by some of the elements that have been drastically changed or cut out altogether.

[James Fiend]

I think with the way that SMT seems to be branching in so many directions, it isn't a big deal to change up the themes. On the other hand, it isn't hard to see why older fans would be frustrated, since it could seem like Persona has overtaken the possibility for a sequel to Nocturne.

[Kaisos Erranon]

^That is your opinion and you are totally entitled to it, but some of us were attracted to the darker elements of SMT and feel the series has shifted dramatically. Some of us feel kind of neglected / alienated. It wouldn't be a "BAD" thing if it wasn't a persistent trend. Serial killings, violence, and whatnot don't automatically equate to substance that mature audiences enjoy. It is how they are handled. Anyway, this has been gone over a lot here though and there isn't much of a need to now. It wasn't really the point of the thread.

The 90s were dark? Dude, every decade has moments of darkness. Idealism? Did you happen to witness the decay of authoritarian forms of communism in the Eastern European bloc in the late 80s and early 90s? Please....comments like that are highly subjective. I honestly believe many people could find rational reasons to believe the current state of the world is much darker than the 90s. The nineties I grew up in was filled with pastel colored clothes, the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, and boy bands. Hardly dark and grim.



I mean fiction-wise, not real-world wise. The 90's was the birth of the (terrible, if you ask me) "dark anti-hero" archetype.

And I would like to point out that the game is still M-rated. It's not really meant to appeal to a younger demographic, from what I can see...

[Zachalmighty]

Whatever we do, please stop with the bear puns!

[Olethros]

The game is rated M, yet there are colorful plushie bears and numerous pre-pubescent posters (not to mention lurkers) champing at the bit to play this. :confused:

[Kakizaki]

Again, M rated doesn't automatically mean it is mature. I guess if you want to take everything at face value, than sure, yeah. GTA games aren't necessarily mature to me even though they are M-Rated.

edit - beat me O. That was directed to the other person.

I mean fiction-wise, not real-world wise. The 90's was the birth of the (terrible, if you ask me) "dark anti-hero" archetype.

I'm sorry, but the 90s was not the birth of the anti hero. I don't know if you could even pin it down, but the theory behind it has existed for a very, very long time. From a purely Japanese standpoint, I wrote a research paper for grad school last fall that dealt with prevalent cultural themes in Japanese popular culture. I frequently dealt with anti-hero archetypes in 60s and 70s cinema. Everyone familiar with anime has heard of Go Nagai.

Secondly, without the anti hero concept, the SMT series as we know it would not exist. I would suggest you have some background in the older games in the series. Out of curiosity, what SMT / SMT related titles have you played?

[Kakizaki]

Whatever we do, please stop with the bear puns!


I concur.

[slayn]

I mean fiction-wise, not real-world wise. The 90's was the birth of the (terrible, if you ask me) "dark anti-hero" archetype.

And I would like to point out that the game is still M-rated. It's not really meant to appeal to a younger demographic, from what I can see...

The 90s saw an explosion of anti-heroes, but it was by no means the decade that spawned them, or even made them popular.

And Persona 4 is rated M for pretty much the exact things Persona 3 was rated M for (with the addition of Alcohol Reference), and to be honest, I don't think Persona 3 should have been rated M.

[Kaisos Erranon]

The game is rated M, yet there are colorful plushie bears and numerous pre-pubescent posters (not to mention lurkers) champing at the bit to play this. :confused:

Colorful plushie bears with dark pasts.

And those posters shouldn't be legally allowed to play this.

Again, M rated doesn't automatically mean it is mature. I guess if you want to take everything at face value, than sure, yeah. GTA games aren't necessarily mature to me even though they are M-Rated.

My point was that they really can't legally market this game to kids, regardless.

And no, GTA isn't mature, but it sure as hell isn't appropriate for people under 17...


I'm sorry, but the 90s was not the birth of the anti hero. I don't know if you could even pin it down, but the theory behind it has existed a very, very long time. From a purely Japanese standpoint, I wrote a research paper for grad school last fall that dealt with prevalent cultural themes in Japanese popular culture. I frequently dealt with anti-hero archetypes in 60s and 70s cinema. Everyone familiar with anime has heard of Go Nagai.

Secondly, without the anti hero concept, the SMT series as we know it would not exist. I would suggest you have some background in the older games in the series.

That wasn't what I meant, really... The concept has existed for a long time, but it wasn't used constantly in everything until the 90's.

Because I appear to be unable to really get at what I'm saying, I'm referring to this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier).

And yes, I probably should play older SMT games. I only really like Persona, though...

[QUOTE=Kaisos Erranon;71417]
And Persona 4 is rated M for pretty much the exact things Persona 3 was rated M for (with the addition of Alcohol Reference), and to be honest, I don't think Persona 3 should have been rated M.

I seem to remember several characters shot, people exploding, and an elder evil descending upon earth.

That alone would get you an M-rating in the States.

[LadyRayna]

And here we go again...

I've never played older SMT games, but I fail to see how them becoming more light-hearted is a BAD thing.

If you haven't played them, you're in no position to say such a thing. And yes, you should play the older ones, most of them are great games.

Also, I agree with Kaki and O.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yeah, done here. Not gonna convince anyone of anything, due to inexperience, so I concede.

[Kakizaki]

And no, GTA isn't mature, but it sure as hell isn't appropriate for people under 17...

That really has nothing to do with what we are saying. We are making a distinction between a M-rated game's content and what is considered to be mature. Like I said, violence and serial killers don't automatically equate to a "mature title".

That wasn't what I meant, really... The concept has existed for a long time, but it wasn't used constantly in everything until the 90's.

I'm sorry but that article you posted is worthless. You are basing your opinion off one internet article that references subject matter from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and is dealing primarily with American kids? Not to mention it is basically comprised of pure conjecture. Chanbara, Ninkyo, and Jitsuroku films dealing with Samurai and Yakuza featured anti heroes often for decades.

Again, check out 70s anime. Many prominent series featured an anti hero on a consistent basis.

[Inzaghi]

Although who knows....maybe he says something the equivalent of Bear-sona in the JP version? I hope not.........

As someone else already mentioned, the "Bear-sona!" line is the rendering of what was "Perkuma!" in Japanese. Most of the bear puns seen in the trailer were also bear puns in Japanese as well, so we're not introducing silliness into the game that wasn't already there.

[Sei]

I think you refer to "Everything I read and watch" and not "Everything as in Everything" when you say "The concept has existed for a long time, but it wasn't used constantly in everything until the 90's".

Personally, I've played pretty much every instance of SMT and a lot of it's side stories, and have trouble getting upset at the softenification of Persona. Demikids, hello?.

I personally think that formulas deliver boring, predictable games, if whoever is in charge of Persona now has a strong, inspired idea of how they want the games to be, that's great. I thought Persona 3 was pretty good, and am looking forward to 4. This doesn't take from IS or EP, but really, part of what makes them great is how inspired their plots were.

This doesn't mean that I think P4 is inspired, but rather, that I feel it takes an unfair beating because of it's new artist and things like Kuma (which granted is, to me, a horrible concept). And honestly, I didn't think P3 was all that bad, either.

Innocent Sin is a great game, by the way, everyone should play it and thank Gemini for his efforts.

[XenoAcid]

Here we go again with the old vs. new.

[Kakizaki]

^I don't think any of us said anything about the artist for P3 and P4 as many of us know what other work they have done in previous Persona titles.

To counter what you said Sei, I agree new ideas are nice, but as I have said in the past, when you have a series as old as SMT, you have a following that definitely finds appeal in the "formula". When you almost totally reject it, as has been the case in the last several SMT related titles, it tends to put some of that older fan base off. Yes change is nice here and there, but I have been waiting to see a title that is similar to the older ones. When or if that ever happens, I will gladly admit I am wrong.

[OmniImmortal]

Are bear puns and a seemingly non-serious character really going to ruin the overall experience for you guys? I think Teddie is going to be an interesting character to get to know better...

Anyways, the main thing that draws me to P3 and P4, is how they both combine a light side and a dark side together... Even though the persona series may be getting somewhat lighter recently, it doesn't necessarily mean the trend will continue for other SMT-related games.

Also, it's a nice change from other games related to the smt series. I think that mainly because it's sort of lazy to just make all of your games with just dark stories, and that change can actually be good on occasion. Even then, this "drastic change" you guys seem to be talking about doesn't really look like that much to me.

The primary reason I've played SMT1-3, the DDS series, and the persona series, is because of their gameplay... A great story+excellent character development is a nice bonus to me, but it isn't really what you should focus on.

[Kakizaki]

Here we go again with the old vs. new.

No, I will attempt to not let it get out of hand although as long as everyone is respectful, it isn't a big deal. It is just a little overly done now I guess.

Plus someone was attempting to take a new angle on it with this "anti hero" take.

[Kakizaki]

The primary reason I've played SMT1-3, the DDS series, and the persona series, is because of their gameplay... A great story+excellent character development is a nice bonus to me, but it isn't really what what you should focus on

I generally don't overly focus on story (although the Persona titles were far more story dependent than the other SMT related titels) but that was the beauty of SMT games to me in the past. There were always competent and compelling stories. I never felt that the lack of cut scenes or dialog detracted from the stories or meant a lack of story, but the recent ones DDS onward have had characters and stories that totally put me off.

And it isn't simply about light heartedness vs darkness. It is also about the simplification of everything from skill sets to game play elements.

Even though the persona series may be getting somewhat lighter recently, it doesn't necessarily mean the trend will continue for other SMT-related games.

And I will gladly admit I am wrong if this day ever comes, but the recent trend has not really indicated I will be.

[Futomimi]

I mean fiction-wise, not real-world wise. The 90's was the birth of the (terrible, if you ask me) "dark anti-hero" archetype.

.................................................. ....

I'm guessing that you aren't very well-read. Dostoyevsky? Hemingway? Poe?

edit: Damn, Kaki beat me to this.

[Kakizaki]

^I didn't even think of that. lol. :/

[Kaisos Erranon]

I mean fiction-wise, not real-world wise. The 90's was the birth of the (terrible, if you ask me) "dark anti-hero" archetype.

.................................................. ....

I'm guessing that you aren't very well-read. Dostoyevsky? Hemingway? Poe?

edit: Damn, Kaki beat me to this.

Durr durr I am dumb.

Durr durr.

Once again I overstep my bounds by making incorrect assumptions, and people older than me prove me wrong with simple logic.

I really, really hate being young.

I was attempting to refer to the whole "90's anti-hero" fad that ended up spawning bad characters like DMC's Dante and Frank Miller's version of Batman, but I don't seem to be able to get my point across.

And that wasn't my bloody point in the first place... I was attempting to point out that I was sick of Darker and Edgier stuff, and maybe something more lighthearted would be a good thing, especially in an increasingly dark world. Fiction is about escapism, after all.

But whatever. There's no point to arguing something I can't effing win.

[Kakizaki]

^Well, at least you can take it in stride dude. That is respectable. Your references and connections are kind of weak. Yeah Batman might have inspired something down the road in the 90s, but something inspired Batman much earlier. Keep in mind that is just an example for example's sake. Like I said much early, there was a 60s anti hero "fad" and another one in the 70s and again in the 80s. It crops up a lot. I wouldn't base my opinions off of one internet article.

I was attempting to point out that I was sick of Darker and Edgier stuff, and maybe something more lighthearted would be a good thing, especially in an increasingly dark world. Fiction is about escapism, after all.

I guess this where I can get confused. I always associated SMT stuff with "dark". If I was after something more lighthearted, I would be looking at another series -- or at least I would have at one time. I guess that is where P3 comes in with the new crowd it has drawn.

[StrikeRaider]

I'll say it took the lightheartedness of P3 to draw most of my friends and me in. We all said P3 was dark and it is compared to the Tales/FF series, but if you compare it to other SMTs than it is rather light. I think what everyone is worried about is that all the other SMTs are going to be affected by the new lighthearted take of P3/4. I figure once the new Devil Summoner comes out they won't have to worry anymore.

And we all must have a lot of free time after midterms eh?

[Kaisos Erranon]

I'll say it took the lightheartedness of P3 to draw most of my friends and me in. We all said P3 was dark and it is compared to the Tales/FF series, but if you compare it to other SMTs than it is rather light. I think what everyone is worried about is that all the other SMTs are going to be affected by the new lighthearted take of P3/4. I figure once the new Devil Summoner comes out they won't have to worry anymore.

This. Just, this.

[Futomimi]

The new Devil Summoners are almost just as light-hearted, and even more streamlined gameplay-wise, than the new Personas. I liked Raidou vs the blah blah blah, and many here didn't, and even I will admit that it's pathetically easy. That is another huge problem with the updates to MegaTen.

[TheMagicHat]

I guess it's the same in this situation as with every other artform: They just don't make 'em like they used to. :yawn:

The only other game in this series I've played was EP way back when, and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Still, I doubt I could begin to relate to the old school crowd where the other MegaTen games are concerned, so I'm just going to enjoy what we've got now.

[Sei]

I still have hopes for the next Raidou. It looks okay thus far. Agree on difficulty. Although Fes sorta fixed that and I'm hoping P4 has a difficulty slider as well.

DDS is pretty hard on hard!

[Kakizaki]

I would probably be more accepting of the changes to Persona if DS wouldn't have been so radically altered from its predecessors or vice versa. That is why I have a hard time believing the series will suddenly have a title that will revert back to the older style.

[QBasic]

I would probably be more accepting of the changes to Persona if DS wouldn't have been so radically altered from its predecessors or vice versa. That is why I have a hard time believing the series will suddenly have a title that will revert back to the older style.
I'm....not so sure.

Let's just say I have this real lingering feeling that the new DS and P4 aside, the next installment will feel eerily close to...Soul Hackers, or P2 mood.

It seems like a gut jump...but, well, that's just how it feels. =/ It ain't exactly me hoping for it either, since I don't have the slightest problem with all these recent changes to the franchise.

[Kakizaki]

Let's just say I have this real lingering feeling that the new DS and P4 aside, the next installment will feel eerily close to...Soul Hackers, or P2 mood.

And you are basing this off of?

[QBasic]

Let's just say I have this real lingering feeling that the new DS and P4 aside, the next installment will feel eerily close to...Soul Hackers, or P2 mood.

And you are basing this off of?
Instinct, impulse, and inspiration.

Never failed me before. (68% of the time)

[Kakizaki]

^Cool for you man.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I have little faith or reason to rely on your intuition. ;)

[QBasic]

^Cool for you man.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I have little faith or reason to rely on your intuition. ;)
I didn't list intuition. :(

[James Fiend]

I still have hopes for the next Raidou. It looks okay thus far. Agree on difficulty. Although Fes sorta fixed that and I'm hoping P4 has a difficulty slider as well.

DDS is pretty hard on hard!

FES hard mode kicked my ass occasionally in Tartarus but the storyline quests have been a breeze thus far. How challenging is the Answer?

[Hamel]

I still have hopes for the next Raidou. It looks okay thus far. Agree on difficulty. Although Fes sorta fixed that and I'm hoping P4 has a difficulty slider as well.

DDS is pretty hard on hard!

FES hard mode kicked my ass occasionally in Tartarus but the storyline quests have been a breeze thus far. How challenging is the Answer?

Harder than the Journy that's for sure

[StrikeRaider]

Remember all the floor bosses you've ever fought in Tartarus and make them regular enemies. That and the fact that there is no compendium.

[sora4126]

The lack of compendium really pissed me off, I hated actually thinking of which personas to fuse and which to keep normal for now.

[OmniImmortal]

So, you hated it because you had to think more? Ok... Perfectly reasonable reason to hate something.

[unknown]

The lack of compendium really pissed me off, I hated actually thinking of which personas to fuse and which to keep normal for now.

lol They did that on purpose, to make it harder.

[sora4126]

@ unknown: I'm aware of that... thanks for obvious statement though.

@ OmniImmortal: I never said I didn't like it. I was frustrated about it 'cause it felt different than the journey.

[unknown]

You are welcome?

Most people get pissed off at things they don't like lol

[Olethros]

You guys crack me up...too bad it's not intentional.

[Balrog]

I'm a little disappointed that this topic isn't about my graphics hack of persona 2 where I made everyone a furry.

[Olethros]

^ See? Now that was intentional funny. Good job. You guys could learn from him. :p

[Futomimi]

I'm a little disappointed that this topic isn't about my graphics hack of persona 2 where I made everyone a furry.

PATCH PLZ!

[sora4126]

Please share your amazingness Balrog.

@ unknown: Depends on the kind of game, games like I Wanna be the Guy and Kaizo Mario World give me similar feels, call me a masochist but I know plenty of people who get pissed at games but still love them.

[StrikeRaider]

Like those that can beat every megaman boss without taking a hit?

Just the sprites or do their speech reflect their new furriness?

[Coritj]

This topic has gone beary far from its original premise.

But he really says "Bear-sona"? *laughs* Awesome, the more I hear of Teddie the more I think he's gonna end up being one of my favorite characters.

[QBasic]

This topic has gone beary far from its original premise.

But he really says "Bear-sona"? *laughs* Awesome, the more I hear of Teddie the more I think he's gonna end up being one of my favorite characters.
When it comes to things getting off-topic on these forums, we all have to bear with it.

[Coritj]

This topic has gone beary far from its original premise.

But he really says "Bear-sona"? *laughs* Awesome, the more I hear of Teddie the more I think he's gonna end up being one of my favorite characters.
When it comes to things getting off-topic on these forums, we all have to bear with it.


Rofl, nice one.

[OgGz]

actually he does say bear-sona

[Daroki]

actually he does say bear-sona

True, but the last post in the thread was in November, before we knew that. :) Just reading along the old school vs. new school thing. I liked Persona even with the bad translation because of the darker subject matter, but I still think we're talking about which shade of black is darker when compared to things like FF or AI, etc; Then again, Nocturne would seem to be the darkest shade, where Persona 4's a shade of grey.

Oh... insert bear pun here... fo' sho.

[Saburo Hikari]

Bear-y good OmniImmortal! You must be psychic! Who knew Teddie would actually say "Bear-sona!"

And looking back at this old vs. new too, at least the newer games are still good compared to J-RPGs like Final Fantasy. They're just not as good as the older games, at least to you SMT veterans. I personally am not enjoying SMT: Nocturne at the moment, so shoot me.

[JGray]

So, he does say Bear-sona? GOOD! I thought I was hearing things for a moment.

[Rin]

Speaking of Teddie, I love his voice :D

Really? I always feel that his voice didn't really suit him... Especially in the human form... And his voice in the Japanese and US version are way too different...

[P4er2009]

Sometimes I've found Teddy really said "Bearr-sona"

[BRASSKNUCKLES]

Doesnt he already say bear sona?

if not i hope this is a joke i cant take another Bear Pun

[Rin]

Sometimes I've found Teddy really said "Bearr-sona"

Well, yeah... To tell you the truth sometimes I felt that he's really saying "bear-sona"... But, I'm not too sure anyway...

[True Hollow Demon Kira]

i thought he does say bear-sona!

[Ike.]

i thought he does say bear-sona!

Are you real?

[Souji_Seta]

? I think Atlus was add it to the game , coz sometime i heard "Bear-sona"

[Olethros]

This thread (the fact that it STILL exists particularly) makes the baby jesus cry.

(Seems he cries a whole lot around these parts)

[Zacewing]

He DOES say "Bear-sona".