Street Fighter IV

[Dead to Rights]

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Street Fighter IV (ストリートファイターⅣ, Sutorīto Faitā Fō?) is a fighting game and the next installment in Capcom's long-running Street Fighter franchise. It was announced on October 17, 2007. A pre-rendered teaser trailer done in a 3D calligraphic style showed Ryu and Ken sparring in a dark meadow, but no gameplay was shown due the project's infancy at the time. Although Capcom USA owns the rights to Street Fighter, development has been contracted to an internal studio at Capcom of Japan. Nothing else is known about Street Fighter IV at this time.

Official website (http://www.streetfighterworld.com/)

Street Fighter IV Official trailer (http://www.gamespot.com/video/943709/6181186/street-fighter-iv-official-trailer-1)

Is Street Fighter IV 2D or 3D? (http://kotaku.com/gaming/clip/is-street-fighter-iv-2d-or-3d-326207.php)

[Sayckeone]

Do people still play this series?

[SlaughterX]

Sure do!

[EvilHero]

Of course. Nothing like a good tourney.

[dragonlife29]

2D, please.

[Gillian Seed]

I hope Ryu is in it with some quarter-circle fireball action, you know, mix it up a bit.

[EvilHero]

First screenshot:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/SSJVegeta76/sfiv.jpg

http://www.siliconera.com/2007/12/06/street-fighter-iv-3d-but-2d-super/

Everyone is talking about Street Fighter IV today after Capcom revealed a smidgen of information earlier today. Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li and Dhalsim are confirmed to be in the cast. Fights occur in 2.5D and the first screenshot of ready-for-action Ryu popped on 1up. The rest of the information from Capcom is vague, like “new special moves that go beyond any Street Fighter fan’s wildest imagination.” They haven’t announced which system Street Fighter IV is coming out on either, but considering the quality of graphics it’s probably a Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 title. It would be interesting if it was a console exclusive, but that seems unlikely.



About the sole screenshot… do you notice anything unusual? Insert Credit made a humorous observation about the new Ryu. Give the picture a second glance before clicking over to see what’s “up”.



I know we're going to have some cracks about the screenshot :roll:

Edit-
And heres the 1up article:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756

I can't wait for that issue to come out.

[Tenbatsu]

Psst... Ryu... your balls are showing...

[RayFoxSith]

LOL
Interesting method to use. I'd play it.

[Saishu]

I don't like it :(

It doesn't look like Street Fighter to me.

[Sayckeone]

How can you NOT like it? While it's not at all polished looking, it looks like they took 2D SF and attempted to make it 3D. I'm quite positive the final version will be MUCH better looking, while maintaining this general look,.

[EvilHero]

Quite a bit of new info was 'leaked' supposedly, its all rumors right now until the new EGM comes out though.

I think the new graphics look great, I just hope this game is tournament worthy.

[Kid Marin]

Glad it looks quite close to the stylish CG trailer.

[Logan]

I'm digging the new look. I think it looks really stylish. Though this is a long ways from being released, IIRC. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait.

[EvilHero]

Looks like its confirmed that SF4 will be on PS3 and XB360.

[Saishu]

How can you NOT like it? While it's not at all polished looking, it looks like they took 2D SF and attempted to make it 3D. I'm quite positive the final version will be MUCH better looking, while maintaining this general look,.
Never expected it to go the Virtua Fighter route. I prefer the old cartoony style.

[EvilHero]

Never expected it to go the Virtua Fighter route. I prefer the old cartoony style.

This style is completely different than Virtua Fighter's.

[Sayckeone]

What the hell are you talking about? This looks nothing like VF.

[Futomimi]

Saycke, come to chat you POS.

[EvilHero]

Saycke, come to chat you POS.

Off topic, ban plz :P

[Dead to Rights]

2D Gameplay confirmed.

Street Fighter IV Unveiled (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756)

[Sayckeone]

Saycke, come to chat you POS.
I couldn't; I was at work, Mimi, and they monitor the PC at the site I was at. There was an unsecure connection in the building, but I didn't want to risk connecting to it with my laptop.

[Futomimi]

Saycke, come to chat you POS.

Off topic, ban plz :P

:P My first "BAN PLZ" from you? Unexpected.


I couldn't; I was at work, Mimi, and they monitor the PC at the site I was at. There was an unsecure connection in the building, but I didn't want to risk connecting to it with my laptop.

Oh. Well, thanks for telling me to be there while you were at work then! haha.

[Sayckeone]

LOL I told you I might not be able to come it!

[EvilHero]

2D Gameplay confirmed.

Street Fighter IV Unveiled (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756)

Damn DTR you got me excited for a second there. This is old news that I already posted.

:P My first "BAN PLZ" from you? Unexpected.

lol, I was thinking the same thing Mimi. I take my SF very seriously :P

[Dead to Rights]

^LOL

I've been out of it lately.

EDIT: New info from the January issue of EGM via NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215633)

-Producer is Yoshinori Ono, who worked on SF Alpha, SF III, and oversaw Capcom Fighting Revolution

-Ono wants it to be the "second coming" of SF II. Wants it to feel like "homecoming" for SF II fans.

-Online play is planned with potential for microtransactions such as new characters and stages

-The look is not really similiar to the teaser trailer. A "cartoon-shaded style that manages to evoke SF II reimagined in 3d"

- runs in 60FPS

- Gameplay sticking with 2D- Ono wants to "preserve the strategic nature of SF II"

-camera doesn't budge

- Trying to get "as many SFII characters in as possible"

- Takes place after SFII Turbo and before SF III

-Controls are traditional- "in its current early state, the game feels remarkably close to Super SFII Turbo"

- Game is more aggressive- more about attacking than defending. Many of the SF III and Alpha gameplay systems have been scrapped.

- Producer says they haven't decided what platforms or even if there will be an arcade version. Version Shane played was running on a P.C

- Ono suggests Capcom could make a PS2 or DS version if "they deem the market suitable"

-Ono not enthusiastic about making it an exclusive- wants to get it out on as many platforms as possible

[RayFoxSith]

- runs in 60FPS

:D

[Sayckeone]

60FPS really should go without saying this gen. Releasing a game that doesn't run at 60 FPS is like releasing a PS2 title on a blue disc; or releasing a game in SD format. It's inexcusable.

[Logan]

Gameplay vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udl8KCiLA-8&feature=related

It's from 1up and they have a whole interview about it but this here is the short gameplay only video of that. Anyway, it's looking really good IMO. I can't wait for it to come out.

[Arjuna]

#### it reminds me so much of SF III and it isn't going to have parrying. :cry:

[EvilHero]

#### it reminds me so much of SF III and it isn't going to have parrying. :cry:

I liked Parrying, but this new Revenge system sounds like its going to open up so many more possibilities.

[Sayckeone]

I cannot stand listening to those 1up losers talk. They make me embarrassed to play video games.

[RayFoxSith]

^Agreed.
The game looks pretty good in action. Would've liked to have seen more fighters though.

[SlaughterX]

http://www.ene3.com/multi/sf4/vai.jpg

[Arjuna]

That really looks like something SNK would spew out their ass... yuck.

[EvilHero]

That really looks like something SNK would spew out their ass... yuck.

Agreed. I hope this doesn't turn out like the SF EX series did.

At least its getting an arcade release first...

[Sayckeone]

Capcom hired SNK's artist. pls blv.

[EvilHero]

Scans:

http://burndiego.com/photos/60944_viploader555739_122_336lo.jpg
http://burndiego.com/photos/60942_viploader555738_122_195lo.jpg

Famitsu Trailer (slightly newer footage)
http://www.famitsu.com/fwtv/?51212893

[Dim Locator]

So they show Ryu's nuts but no Camel Toe blasphemous...

[SlaughterX]

Finally get to se ethe other Street Fighters in their new HD cell shaded form...

http://ruliweb.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?table=game_ps04&page=1&num=38274&main=ps&find=&ftext

[Gillian Seed]

I like how Street Fighter IV is basically Street Fighter II 3D.

[EvilHero]

Ono said they were going to be in the game, so i'm not suprised. They look pretty good though, that one new chick still looks way out of place.

I'm really hoping we see some Alpha characters. Karin/Sakura/Gen/Guy would about do it for me.

[SlaughterX]

Slightly better pics of what we've already seen...

http://www.ene3.com/archives/020599.html

[Tenbatsu]

The more this looks like the original Street Figher II the more I want to buy this.

[Logan]

Blanka looks awesome IMO. Chun-Li has some major thunder thighs. And I gotta agree with EH, the new fighter just looks wrong for a Street Fighter character. Although I'm curious what she looks like in action.

[EvilHero]

New character has been announced: "Abel"

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/__icsFiles/artimage/2008/02/14/pc_fc_n_gn/3stt0019.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1213607_1124.html

Apparently he has ties with Shadoloo, which could make him an interesting character. Judging by the gloves and shin pads, he looks like an MMA fighter. He also has one of Sean's moves.

[Arjuna]

Gay. Needs some Q.

[Dead to Rights]

Cell phone footage of Street Fighter IV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_Gx3-_Xpk)

[EvilHero]

http://japan.gamespot.com/arcade/videos/story/0,3800076101,20367440,00.htm

Footage from AOU. The first 4 minutes are SF4.

The art style and graphics are looking alot better IMO. I'm getting even more excited for this.

[Logan]

New character revealed. (http://kotaku.com/366743/new-street-fighter-iv-character-leaked)

[SlaughterX]

Home platforms confirmed (http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/street-fighter-playstation-xbox-360-actu-141056.html)... 360, PS3, and... PC!

[SlaughterX]

Online play and console exclusive characters confirmed (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52915)!

Also more good news (http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=71572)!

[EvilHero]

From a press release:

New Trailer, Preorder Campaign Kickoff On StreetFighter.com Immediately Following

When: Saturday, May 31st, 2008 at 10 PM
Where: CBS (check local listings)
URL: http://www.streetfighter.com, http://fight.proelite.com/elitexc-primetime.html

SAN MATEO, CA – May 28, 2008 – Capcom®, a leading worldwide developer and publisher of video games, today announced that the first television commercial for Street Fighter® IV will debut during the CBS EliteXC Saturday Night Fights mixed martial arts (MMA) event. The EliteXC bout takes place on CBS on Saturday, May 31 at 9 PM EST. Immediately following the bout, the Street Fighter IV trailer will debut on the newly redesigned StreetFighter.com, along with the first chance for gamers to preorder Street Fighter IV for the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3™) computer entertainment system exclusively through GamesStop.

Viewers tuning in to catch the first MMA fight to ever air on US broadcast television featuring internet phenomenon Kimbo Slice battling British fighter James “The Colossus” Thompson, will be treated to the network premiere of a 60 second Street Fighter IV trailer and 30 second Street Fighter IV television spots, which feature a combination of stylized CG animation and game play, ending with a call to action that will drive viewers to the newly designed StreetFighter.com website.

On the website, players will be able to watch the new “artistic” trailer, featuring a stylized brawl between Street Fighter favorite Guile and new character Abel along with several other Street Fighter IV trailers and then immediately pre-order the Xbox 360 or PS3 version of the game from GameStop. Fans who pre-order Street Fighter IV will receive a limited edition collectable Street Fighter Tribute artbook, illustrated by top artists from the comic book and video game industries. A countdown currently running on the website tracks the time remaining until the new trailer unlocks.

[SlaughterX]

Website is live (http://www.streetfighter.com/).

[SlaughterX]

First commercial (http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/19122), I hate the music...

[Sayckeone]

^Uh, don't front. That's Faith No More.

[SlaughterX]

It is supposed to inspire faith in this latest entry of Street Fighter, because it's working the exact opposite way of how they might hope... It's just not fitting at all. Like putting an ODB song in a Final Fantasy game or something...

[SlaughterX]

Hands on @ GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/streetfighteriv/news.html?sid=6191980&tag=topslot;title;4&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot)!

[EvilHero]

Capcom released the first in game cut scene on their website:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/trailer/trailer6.html

Strong possibility Akuma will be in the game. It hints that Gouken is alive too!

[Arjuna]

Yeah just like M. Bison is alive. :roll:

Capcom really ####ed up, not one SFIII character in sight yet either. FAIL.

[EvilHero]

^ Yeah but they've played on Gouken being dead alot harder than Bison. He was already defeated in Alpha, then came back, i'm not suprised he did it again. Gouken though, Ryu's story was mostly centered around the fact that Akuma murdered him.

I'm really not that bummed about the Street Fighter 3 characters being absent. I remember when 3S first came out, I didn't have much interest in it (or fighting games in general) at the time because the characters were all different. If Capcom wants to sell this game and resurrect the franchise, they need to bring the memorable characters back.

Now if they slip in some Alpha characters, thats a whole different story.

SF2 Characters > SF3 Characters

[EvilHero]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ECAVVlQ24w

Showing of the second Anime sequence in the console version at Comic Con (Skip to 3:00 to see.)

Cammy is pretty much all but confirmed.

[Foryth]

Now all that would be missing is Sakura. :P I'd like Rolento or Guy, but there's no way that will happen.

[EvilHero]

Someone brought up a good point on SRK the other day about bringing back characters from other series.

The game is based off SFII's fighting system, so having to bring back characters that play off different fighting systems would make it horribly difficult to balance.

I could see it in the future with possible revisions or sequels, but it would take some time on the developers part.

[Kakizaki]

^I don't have a problem with the fighting system or what you said, but I am just horribly unimpressed by the graphics engine.

I would prefer straight up sprites, but I am open to poly builds. This looks kind of bad to me -- like it might as well be a new EX title.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Someone brought up a good point on SRK the other day about bringing back characters from other series.

The game is based off SFII's fighting system, so having to bring back characters that play off different fighting systems would make it horribly difficult to balance.

I could see it in the future with possible revisions or sequels, but it would take some time on the developers part.

It's not that hard to take Alpha characters and put them into SF2's engine. Not at all. It wouldn't be all that hard to take SF3 characters and do it either.

[EvilHero]

^I don't have a problem with the fighting system or what you said, but I am just horribly unimpressed by the graphics engine.

I would prefer straight up sprites, but I am open to poly builds. This looks kind of bad to me -- like it might as well be a new EX title.

Yeah I do agree, that was my initial impression. I'd still welcome 2D sprites (ala GG or BlazBlue) with open arms. They've made changes to the graphics over time, I think they look pretty good (EX doesn't even compare IMO.)

It's not that hard to take Alpha characters and put them into SF2's engine. Not at all. It wouldn't be all that hard to take SF3 characters and do it either.

Alpha characters wouldn't be as bad as 3S characters since not much had changed from ST to Alpha (aside form air blocks, alpha counters and CCs) of course, Alpha was so flexible that all the fighters had so many play style options.

SF3 on the other hand, alot of the characters were designed with the SF3 system in mind (parries, super cancels, meter length/quantity, etc...) Putting them in a system like SF2's just wouldn't make any sense, alot of 3's characters would play HORRIBLY. Changes to them would need to be done.

Look at what happened to MVC2, you dropped Street Fighter characters into a Marvel Fighter with Marvel mechanics. Thats why the game is horribly unbalanced with pretty much none of the SF characters worth playing.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Well I didn't say they should just be "dropped in", that would be ####ing terrible. I said it's not hard to adjust them to the new system. Which it wouldn't be.

[EvilHero]

Balance in Fighting games is delicate, i'm usually not convinced it exists unless you run a loc test (look what happened to SC3....) You can't just simply make changes, you have to see how it works amongst all the other characters on the roster, watch for bugs, glitches, infinites, etc. Then make alterations, and repeat as much as necessary.

Me using the phrase "dropped in" to describe MVC2 might have been a little inaccurate. They did make some fair changes to the SF characters (move properties and such, nothing big or else it wouldn't be believable) but they were still horrible.

[SlaughterX]

The man (http://www.gamesradar.com/f/akuma-in-street-fighter-iv/a-2008081510415774071) is back!

[Arjuna]

I don't like how a lot of his chest is showing.. looks kinda weird. Also think he sounded much cooler in SFIII.

[Saishu]

That reminds me of Mai's outfit. Heh.

[shimo]

There are missing Karin and Sakura from Alpha 3 then SF4 would be awesome.

[Yet Another Tim]

Anyway, just yesterday, I saw an arcade near my college campus that has SF IV.

Unfortunately, I got my ass whooped by a Sagat player (with a 9-win streak), who kept on spamming his projectile as if it were Cable's Viper Beam. :roll:

Since I was pissed off, I told him, "He's not ####ing Cable." >_>

[Gen Eric Gui]

Somebody isn't familiar with...

TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER

That's how tournaments are won, son.

[Arjuna]

I always wanted to imagine the insane idea of Sagat being in SFIII. Could you imagine how broken his EX Tiger Uppercut would be?

[Gen Eric Gui]

I would assume they would scale the damage and make it about as useful as Ken, Ryu, and Dudley's EX Uppercuts, which is to say, not very.

[Arjuna]

I dunno some EX moves are pretty ridiculous. Especially Ken's EX spinkick. I imagine Sagat's Tiger Uppercut would do a ####load if you connected with all of the hits. Too bad it never happened though. :cry:

[Gillian Seed]

There are missing Karin and Sakura from Alpha 3 then SF4 would be awesome.

thats because it is Street Fighter II II




(2 + 2 = 4)




:D

[EvilHero]

The man (http://www.gamesradar.com/f/akuma-in-street-fighter-iv/a-2008081510415774071) is back!

Not suprised, but i'm pretty excited to see him back. Its awesome hearing the old Akuma SF Alpha 2 theme remixed, that #### was so pringles.

Akuma's outfit looks fine IMO, the voice sounds pretty good too. I wonder what the english VA will be like.

Shun Goku Satsu looks pretty beastly too.

Somebody isn't familiar with...

TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER

That's how tournaments are won, son.

Yeah, good thing thats only with O. Sagat, they nerfed the recovery time on his tiger shot afterwards. Doesn't matter considering you can still pick him in the Anniversary collection. Oh well, some of the sickest come backs were against O. Sagat.

I doubt Sagat's fireballs will be a problem in SFIV since you can "parry." That and with the inclusion of Ex projectiles and invincibility frames during supers, most projectile fights won't be as strategic as they were in SF2.

I dunno some EX moves are pretty ridiculous. Especially Ken's EX spinkick. I imagine Sagat's Tiger Uppercut would do a ####load if you connected with all of the hits. Too bad it never happened though.


Eh... I dunno Al.. Ken's EX tatsu was pretty fast. But its a waste of meter to perform unless you can confirm the hit, and if you can combo, you have alot of better options since EX tatsu doesn't knock down. Only time I ever see it used is in the air, usually then it ends up getting parried.

EX shoryus (wether they be Ryu, Dudley or Sagat) are generally only useful during certain situations. I never use them for anti air as all the hits won't land and a regular shoryu is more than suffecient. Only time ex shoryus are good are during combos, during that time you usually have better options (like linking into SA.)

You can do some sick damage on wake up or if your opponent whiffs a throw (it takes some sick reaction time though) that or during one of Dudley's corner juggles.

Unfortunately, I got my ass whooped by a Sagat player (with a 9-win streak), who kept on spamming his projectile as if it were Cable's Viper Beam.

The problem i'm seeing in alot of match videos is that people are playing this like its SF2. Its not neccessarily a bad thing, but theres alot of different mechanics that can help you against characters with a strong projectile game.

Not saying that you should have done something different against the Sagat player you faced, just a simple observation :wink:

[Gen Eric Gui]

Dudley should NEVER, EVER link into his EX shoryuken. There's no point, because nearly everything that can be linked into that can also be linked into his EX Machine Gun Blow, which is way more damaging and opens up sick juggles.

Only time it's ever really useful is on wakeup and your opponent is hovering over you with no super stocked. Which is to say, only against scrubs and poor players.


Edit: as for that last part, they're probably spamming fireballs because that's all most people do in fighters. Average Joe can't figure out how to get around them, so they figure they're the best strategy.

[EvilHero]

^Yeah, like I said. Generally if you have the opportunity to link an ex shoryu, there are far better options to go with.

Although I believe their is a Dudley juggle that involves using his ex shoryu. Same with Ryu.

[Gen Eric Gui]

The only Shoryu juggle I know of offhand is that Ken's LP shoryu can combo into itself in the corner for like 1/3 health.

[EvilHero]

That only works under very special circumstances, or if you Kara Shoryuken. Even then it doesn't do alot of damage, good for meter building though.

The combo I had in mind for Ryu was Ex tatsu in the corner into Ex shoryu. You usually have better, easier to perform options, but sometimes I like to do this for show, or when i'm bored.

I looked up Dudley's, he does have some viable juggles involving Ex Jet upper, but most of them are character specific.

[Gen Eric Gui]

I remember being able to double shoryu pretty regularly on a couple characters, and I didn't play Ken at all. Maybe I was doing on accident what I needed to do?

And it did a lot of damage.

Maybe me copy was ####ed up.

[Arjuna]

Ken's crossovers are the ####ing most brutal ownage.

[SlaughterX]

Collector's Edition (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Furl%3Ds earch-alias%253Dvideogames%26field-keywords%3Dstreet%2Bfighter%2BIV%2Bcollector%2527s %2Bedition&tag=1upcom0f-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325) ($80) and PC version will be $40 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FStreet-Fighter-IV-Pc%2Fdp%2FB001CH2HBK%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dsoftware%26 qid%3D1219425923%26sr%3D8-5&tag=1upcom0f-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)!

Also the game was pushed back to 09... :(

[EvilHero]

I'm not suprised they're doing a collector's edition, I will definetly be picking that up.

Also the game was pushed back to 09...

I was always under the impression it had an 09 release date (somewhere in the first quarter.)

Also, this was already said in an interview with Ono but, Cammy had won the supposed character vote and will definetly be in the game.

I'd post the actual interview, but SRK is down.

[Saishu]

Downloaded the Street Fighter IV PS3 Special trailer. The game looks so damn good in HD, if they keep those special color filters and effects I am going to buy this.

[EvilHero]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s3X0RAPgUSo

:roll:

[SlaughterX]

Official Sticks and Pads by Madcatz revealed!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/srt4mike/SFIV/IMG_0192.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/srt4mike/SFIV/IMG_0195.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/srt4mike/SFIV/IMG_0194.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/srt4mike/SFIV/IMG_0193.jpg

Pad designed are not final. Prices for the pads should be $40, the 360 pads are supposedly wired while the PS3 pads are wireless...

There will be two different sticks, the regular stick for $70 and the Premium (which uses the same parts are the arcade) stick for $130.

[Gillian Seed]

I like the pads, the sticks are cool too, i guess. It was playable at the conference I went to, but every jackass who went and sat down at the cabinets played at Ryu or Ken... Come on people, it is a new game you get to play for the first time, try out some of the new characters for once!

[iammako3]

I like the pads, the sticks are cool too, i guess. It was playable at the conference I went to, but every jackass who went and sat down at the cabinets played at Ryu or Ken... Come on people, it is a new game you get to play for the first time, try out some of the new characters for once!

Might you be a Gamestop manager? (lol, sorry if you've already said so in a nother post!!!) I know they just got back from the big conference.

[EvilHero]

Couple new details emerged.

First off, they revealed the U.S and EU box art:

US:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_eTB004d0cng/SNkt4w-kbZI/AAAAAAAAAYk/XNkUjD6Jir4/s1600/sf4us.jpg

EU:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eTB004d0cng/SNkuEQaPy9I/AAAAAAAAAYs/10j9RPqPvsk/s1600/ussf4.jpg

Also, Gouken is an official character:
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=38165_ac_122_537lo.jpg

[SlaughterX]

CE details...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171727

[Luna]

Hmmm ryu action figure with a pre-ordered copy of the collectors edition.

I might pick this up if I get a ps3 this xmas.

[SlaughterX]

Pics of the CEs...

http://wa2.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/kramez/sfiv_-_x360_final_ce_collection_photo.jpg?v=259650

http://wa2.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/kramez/sfiv_-_ps3_final_ce_collection_photo.jpg

http://www.capcom-unity.com/kramez/blog/2008/12/19/street_fighter_iv_collectors_edition_details_and_n ew_standard_edition_box_for_north_america

[Zephyr]

So... I take it PC doesn't get a Collector's Edition?

[Manic Expressive]

Doubtful considering probably two thirds of PC gamers will be pirating it like there is no tomorrow.

Man those MadCatz joysticks/controllers are ugly, even if they do contain Hori parts.

[Kakizaki]

^I totally missed the original comments regarding those controllers using arcade parts. I would like to see some real conformation on that -- it also doesn't mean they are assembled well.

[Muckamuck]

The description for the sticks on GameStop's site say that MadCatz is trying to replicate the arcade-style sticks as best as they can, which involves using Sanwa parts and giving the base a sort of ergonomic slope.

The Tournament Edition one is a little too pricey at about $150 USD, but I believe it's the only one that contains actual Sanwa parts, which on their own are some of the most expensive around. They're highly popular and rather sturdy.

Tournament Edition FightStick:
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73046

Regular FightStick:
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=73045

[Kakizaki]

^I just know a lot of people seem to believe just because a company states that they use Happ or Sanwa parts, the end product will be quality. That isn't always the case.

[Muckamuck]

Yeah, I'm aware of that, and I just wanted to pull up a source of where I read about the parts being used. I'm a bit skeptical about the whole thing as well since I don't have a very good past experience with MadCatz accessories.

Still, I have to give them props for putting quite a bit of work into assembling these sticks, but we'll just have to wait and see.

[Kakizaki]

^Oh no, it's cool. You just answered my question. I'm in the same position. I've never had any luck with Madcatz junk.

I've just stuck with importing controllers the last ten years -- primarily ASCII and Hori stuff with the occasionally Sega peripheral.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Definitely gonna get that PS3 Collector's Edition. Might get one of those regular sticks...

[EvilHero]

^ Generally, its the quality of parts that make the stick. Back when we'd make arcade sticks, we'd just make sure we got good parts (Ball top, Buttons, Square gate, etc...)

We would generally care less about the case and what not. Just so long as you ordered good parts and knew how to build a stick, you came out with a pretty good quality stick. Mad Catz made the right move using Sanwa parts, so long as they assemble these correctly (seeing as how a couple of guys with no prior electronic experience could, I don't see how Mad Catz could screw this up) I could see something decent coming from this.

Theirs a couple of guys who are working on the controllers/stick posting on SRK, answering questions, taking suggestions and keeping us updated. These guys have had alot of experience building arcade sticks and playing fighting games and have assured us they're putting alot of focus on quality. Not to mention Seth and Ono are overseeing the development.

Don't get me wrong, i'm still skeptical about this whole thing. But i'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

On a side note. I'm really excited to see Rose included in SFIV.

[SlaughterX]

GameSpot impressions of the final version and all hardware...

http://ces.gamespot.com/story.html?sid=6202941&tag=topslot;thumb;1

can't wait until next month.

Also here's a huge preview @ 1up, which would have been the cover story for next month's EGM...

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3172173

[EvilHero]

Yeah that video of Seth showing off all the new hardware pretty much layed any doubts to rest on wether or not Mad Catz would come through.

I can't remember the last time I was this hyped for a video game.

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gszBXzfUw1Y

Seth shows off challenge mode. This is awesome, they took the best aspect of SF EX Plus Alpha, and threw it into SF4. It was an excellent mode to help beginners and intermediate players get into the game and do the more complex moves and combos. The only reason I still put in the SF EX games. :P

They're really paying attention to what the fans want and what should be added into this game. Kudos to Capcom.

[SlaughterX]

Which (platform) version are you getting?

[EvilHero]

I'll be picking up both the 360 and PS3 versions.

[Hamel]

PS3 for me

[Gen Eric Gui]

I don't think this was posted yet.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14211549/street-fighter-iv/videos/sf4_costumes_montage.html

Alt costumes confirmed, but apparently they're DLC, which is FFFFFFFFFFFF. Although apparently you get 5 for free if you get the special edition? That might get me to order the special edition, depending on the price of the costumes. I want a bunch of them, but paying for this as DLC makes me RAGE.

Sakura's is incredibly hot, and Zangeif's Mike Haggar outfit actually makes me want to play as Zangeif.

I JUST GOT SO EXCITED FOR THIS YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.

[Kakizaki]

^That is a screw job.

[SlaughterX]

Accesories review from IGN and 1up!

http://gear.ign.com/articles/948/948655p1.html

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172420

I will probably just pick up an Akuma pad for now, I already have 2 sticks.

[EvilHero]

Pretty much all of those alternate costumes have been confirmed since the game first hit arcades. The only new ones are the console exclusive characters.

I'm really liking Rose's. Almost like a homage to the Rogue in the D&D Capcom arcade game, that or Maria from Jojo's.

While I do agree that having to pay for new costumes is BS. It was a much bigger pain in the ass to unlock them at the arcades. You had to play and earn enough in game currency to purchase them. And you needed ALOT of zeni to buy them.


Although apparently you get 5 for free if you get the special edition? That might get me to order the special edition

Getting an hour long movie with the game won't get you to buy the special edition, but 5 extra costumes will?

[Gen Eric Gui]

Didn't care about the movie. Do care about Sakura in a tiny, tiny karate Gi and Mike Haggar.

And Rose's costume was confirmed to be a throw-back to the D&D Thief.

[EvilHero]

When did Capcom confirm that about Rose's costume? I haven't heard anything from them regarding any of the alternate costumes.

Fei Long's is pretty nice, i'm glad they didn't use the yellow jump suit.

Apparently they cancelled the collector's edition of the strategy guide if anybody cares. I was kinda looking forward to it for collector's reasons, the guide will probably be either useless at worst, obsolete in a few monthes at best. I'll probably just use it for the frame data...

[Zephyr]

I preordered the collector's edition at GameStop yesterday. Apparently it also entered me into a sweepstakes to win an arcade cabinet.

[EvilHero]

Yeah they've got that contest going on now.

I'm more interested in the company wide tournament they're holding. Hopefully they don't limit you to competing with pads....

Edit:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/tournaments/sf4/default.aspx

Looks like they announced the details. Game has to be played on whatever GS decides on, most likely pads. Lame.

[Hamel]

Yeah they've got that contest going on now.

I'm more interested in the company wide tournament they're holding. Hopefully they don't limit you to competing with pads....

Edit:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/tournaments/sf4/default.aspx

Looks like they announced the details. Game has to be played on whatever GS decides on, most likely pads. Lame.

The prizes are not worth it for me as I have a PS3 and not a 360 (and besides I got too used to my HRAP3 now)

[EvilHero]

I could care less about the prizes, I just want to play against the competition in my area.

[Hamel]

I could care less about the prizes, I just want to play against the competition in my area.

Well yes but my guess is we would have to use a 360 controller

[SlaughterX]

IGN reviews... 360 (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/953/953894p1.html)/PS3 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/953/953819p1.html)

[hibiki_takami]

Does anyone know where I can pre-order or even order the Madcatz Street Fighter 4 Tournament Edition sticks? Amazon seems to have forgotten the fact that I subscribed to their notifications and haven't gotten a single email about them

[SlaughterX]

Preorders have been sold out for a while... you're going to have to wait until they produce more, and I have no idea when that will be.

[hibiki_takami]

Preorders have been sold out for a while... you're going to have to wait until they produce more, and I have no idea when that will be.

I just checked. GameStop says they won't have any until April!

[EvilHero]

I preordered for the first shipment and I still haven't gotten mine yet. I even got a call from Gamestop saying that it came in.

You might be better off waiting on the second shipment anyway, alot of people are having issues with the TE sticks (scratches, buttons and stick not working properly, making funny noises.) Hopefully MC gets this stuff taken care of, or else they're right back where they started with me.

[hibiki_takami]

I preordered for the first shipment and I still haven't gotten mine yet. I even got a call from Gamestop saying that it came in.

You might be better off waiting on the second shipment anyway, alot of people are having issues with the TE sticks (scratches, buttons and stick not working properly, making funny noises.) Hopefully MC gets this stuff taken care of, or else they're right back where they started with me.

My friend pre-ordered his and was told that his won't be in until March :/

[EvilHero]

Yeah I just heard from a few others. Looks like even people who preordered way back in the beginning are getting screwed until March. That sucks. :/

[Yet Another Tim]

Going back to Sagat, is he banned in Japanese tournaments in IV? I'm just asking, since SF IV will be one of the 9 games featured in this year's Tougeki tourney.

[Hamel]

Going back to Sagat, is he banned in Japanese tournaments in IV? I'm just asking, since SF IV will be one of the 9 games featured in this year's Tougeki tourney.

Why would he be?

[SlaughterX]

OMG I'm in teh gaem!

http://sf4.15secondtv.info/03_090217044548_0021019_0_12.jpg (http://www.streetfighter.com/myfistyourface/)

[EvilHero]

lol when I saw them do that on the Capcom Unity blog, I nearly #### myself at the creepy Chun li face.

[Gen Eric Gui]

Going back to Sagat, is he banned in Japanese tournaments in IV? I'm just asking, since SF IV will be one of the 9 games featured in this year's Tougeki tourney.

The Japanese don't ban Gouki from their SF2 tournaments.

Sagat won't be going anywhere.

[SlaughterX]

1up (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3172832) review.

Picked up the game this morning, beat it with Ken. The figure is little as ####, should be called a figurine. Seth's second form is pretty damn cheap but if you're patient with his teleporting he's not impossible.

[SlaughterX]

So you can only have 2 people in an online game at once, how wack.

[Shin]

I got it yesterday with the headband from Gamestop for preordering.
I'll be wearing it everyday, XD.

Anyway, I barely got to play it, but I'm thinking I like Sagat.

[Hamel]

So you can only have 2 people in an online game at once, how wack.

I think it's for better connection

[Shadro]

I picked it up yesterday during my lunch break and got to play a bit at school. Overall I like it quite a bit, with I could afford a stick or a better controller for it, but the 360 D-pad isn't to bad to me considering how much Guilty Gear I have played on it. I just hate the fact like half of the cast are charge characters, I fail at doing those moves ><.

[Zephyr]

So you can only have 2 people in an online game at once, how wack.

I think it's for better connection

Ummmm why would you need any more than that in a two-player game?

[Shin]

So you can only have 2 people in an online game at once, how wack.

I think it's for better connection

Ummmm why would you need any more than that in a two-player game?
Spectating?

[Zephyr]

So you can only have 2 people in an online game at once, how wack.

I think it's for better connection

Ummmm why would you need any more than that in a two-player game?
Spectating?

Meh.

[hibiki_takami]

Has anyone tried to see if the party system works for this game on the 360?

Also, I've been at it all day trying to unlock Gouken and I can't seem to figure out how to unlock him.

[Saishu]

Have you guys not played Dead or Alive 4? Or Hyper Fighting for XBLA?

So you move on from one opponent to the next.

[Zephyr]

Has anyone tried to see if the party system works for this game on the 360?

Also, I've been at it all day trying to unlock Gouken and I can't seem to figure out how to unlock him.

A cheat guide said finish Arcade Mode with Akuma. In order to fight Gouken get at least one perfect match, use no continues. Get two finishes with Ultra Combos. Defeat Gouken with an Ultra Combo. I don't know if that's right, but you might give it a try.

[hibiki_takami]

Wow, that anime is over 9000...

[Hamel]

Wow, that anime is over 9000...

I found it ok
Studio 4C don't know how to make Ryu look good
and it was a very open ending

[Delition]

I've got it for the PS3. I completely blow at the game, but if anyone's willing to mess around my PSN name's Delition.

[Zephyr]

Wow, that anime is over 9000...

When Ryu was "powering up". I looked over to my roommate and we both knew what the other was thinking. This joke has probably already been done on the Internet.

[EvilHero]

Also, I've been at it all day trying to unlock Gouken and I can't seem to figure out how to unlock him.

We just unlocked everyone, then proceeded to play through arcade mode over and over. We followed the guidelines that you had to finish with an ultra combo 1-3 times and get a few perfects, but still it was a bit random.

I've been playing mostly with my friends. I did go online on XBL, racked up a 30 fight win streak under my buddies account. It plays like ST, but the execution is much more solid, like 3S's. I was pulling off Chun's EX Legs into Ultra much sooner than I expected.

I'm still getting used to the new stuff though. Abel's moves don't have much priority and I haven't figured out which normals are decent. The focus attack is awesome, but i'm still getting used to that and FADC's. Rose is also alot of fun to play, but her shamwow isn't quite as powerful as I expected...

I'll see you guys online probably next week. I'll be going to that Gamestop tournament on Saturday, then i've got another tourney to go to on Sunday. Add me when you can, i'd love to play all of you.

[hibiki_takami]

Also, I've been at it all day trying to unlock Gouken and I can't seem to figure out how to unlock him.

We just unlocked everyone, then proceeded to play through arcade mode over and over. We followed the guidelines that you had to finish with an ultra combo 1-3 times and get a few perfects, but still it was a bit random.

I've been playing mostly with my friends. I did go online on XBL, racked up a 30 fight win streak under my buddies account. It plays like ST, but the execution is much more solid, like 3S's. I was pulling off Chun's EX Legs into Ultra much sooner than I expected.

I'm still getting used to the new stuff though. Abel's moves don't have much priority and I haven't figured out which normals are decent. The focus attack is awesome, but i'm still getting used to that and FADC's. Rose is also alot of fun to play, but her shamwow isn't quite as powerful as I expected...

I'll see you guys online probably next week. I'll be going to that Gamestop tournament on Saturday, then i've got another tourney to go to on Sunday. Add me when you can, i'd love to play all of you.

Actually, I found out exactly how to unlock Gouken. Basically you have to beat the game with Akuma at least once, then during your playthrough you have to only get the following - no more, no less: 1 perfect, 3 ultra combo finishes. If you get an extra perfect or do an extra ultra combo finish the game will have you fight Akuma instead of Gouken.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Actually, I found out exactly how to unlock Gouken. Basically you have to beat the game with Akuma at least once, then during your playthrough you have to only get the following - no more, no less: 1 perfect, 3 ultra combo finishes. If you get an extra perfect or do an extra ultra combo finish the game will have you fight Akuma instead of Gouken.
Really? Because I got 2 perfects and 3 Ultra Combo finishes and I still fought Gouken and got him.

[SlaughterX]

GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/streetfighteriv/review.html?tag=topslot;thumb;2) review.

[hibiki_takami]

Actually, I found out exactly how to unlock Gouken. Basically you have to beat the game with Akuma at least once, then during your playthrough you have to only get the following - no more, no less: 1 perfect, 3 ultra combo finishes. If you get an extra perfect or do an extra ultra combo finish the game will have you fight Akuma instead of Gouken.
Really? Because I got 2 perfects and 3 Ultra Combo finishes and I still fought Gouken and got him.

That's odd. I had done more than what was required several times throughout the day yesterday and it'd only let me battle Akuma. This was for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 version.

[Sphinx316]

All I can say is..It makes me so ANGRY!!!!

[SickleCellAnemia]

That's odd. I had done more than what was required several times throughout the day yesterday and it'd only let me battle Akuma. This was for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 version.

Maybe unlocking him is different for everyone, lol.

[Shin]

One step closer to getting Seth.
Why did they have to make El Fuerte so nightmarishly diffucult to use!? D:

[EvilHero]

That's odd. I had done more than what was required several times throughout the day yesterday and it'd only let me battle Akuma. This was for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 version.

Maybe unlocking him is different for everyone, lol.

Nah, its just a random occurence. Kind of like unlocking Ultimate Rugal and Shin Akuma in CVS. Just keep playing through arcade mode until he pops up.

[Gen Eric Gui]

It's not random. The trick seems to be in the exact number of Perfects vs. Ultra Finishers you get. I fought Gouken (before even meeting akuma eveR) the first time with 2 Perfects and 3 UCF's, and didn't unlock him. Then I played again with one perfect and no UCF's, and fought/unlocked Akuma.

Then I went through and got 1 Perfect and 2 UCF's and got Akuma again, then got 1 Perfect and 5 UCF's and got Gouken. There's got to be some kind of sweet spot in there somewhere.

One thing I don't see a lot of people point out is that you HAVE to be playing as somebody who has already cleared the game. If it's the character's first trip through Arcade mode you can't meet Akuma or Gouken.

[EvilHero]

Heres what my friends at SRK have been doing:

For simplicities sake (it doesn't matter if you only need just one perfect) do this:

1. Unlock all normal six characters
2. Play through the game again and get 2 perfects and 2 Ultras, no continues to fight Akuma after Seth. Kill him to unlock him.
3. Beat the game with Akuma (not confirmed to be necessary, just do it anyway)
4. Play the game *with any character* and get 2 perfects and 3 Ultras, no continues to fight Gouken after Seth. Kill him to unlock him.

Did this at my house, did these exact steps again at my friends. You may not need to actually beat the game with Akuma and you may not need more than one perfect, but the above steps are 100% working.

AKUMA IS REQUIRED. You can fight Gouken before unlocking Akuma and you will not unlock him.

[Chidori Boy Uchiha]

the most charactrer i hated in this game was that seth guy at theend of the game he sucks

[SlaughterX]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/IMGP0442.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/IMGP0440.jpg

The poster's from GameCrazy.

[Shin]

I got this awesome Headband from Gamestop for preordering

[Sphinx316]

I'm Abel....THROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROW!! ! Such a pain in the ass...

[Hamel]

I'm Abel....THROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROW!! ! Such a pain in the ass...

I'm another player

LEARN HOW TO PLAY AGAINST HIM

[Camanche]

Mmmm Street Fighter. Just picked this up. What's in the collector's edition that makes it $10 more? lol

[SlaughterX]

$20 more...

Pics of the CEs...

http://wa2.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/kramez/sfiv_-_x360_final_ce_collection_photo.jpg?v=259650

http://wa2.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/kramez/sfiv_-_ps3_final_ce_collection_photo.jpg

http://www.capcom-unity.com/kramez/blog/2008/12/19/street_fighter_iv_collectors_edition_details_and_n ew_standard_edition_box_for_north_america

[EvilHero]

I'm Abel....THROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROWTHROW!! ! Such a pain in the ass...

I'm another player

LEARN HOW TO PLAY AGAINST HIM

Seriously, thats what makes this game so fun. You have to think of ways to counter your opponents tactics, once you do, it forces him to come up with new ways to counter yours and the cycle goes on.

Ryu's Shoryuken, FADC, Ultra combo is getting really annoying to do. I can do it on pad no problem, its on an arcade stick thats annoying me.

[Camanche]

$10 more up here. DO NOT QUESTION ME!! :p

[Dead to Rights]

In honor of Ray Ray I will crush you all using Cammy.

[Camanche]

I still haven't even unlocked her. I'm starting to face some good people online now.

[Dead to Rights]

Well I'm glad. Cammy using Cammy would be considered a cheat, IMO.

[Camanche]

I tend to stick with Chun-Li, C. Viper and Dhalsim. How do you change your little picture and status?

[Dead to Rights]

Oh I wouldn't know Ray Ray I don't even own SF IV lolol.

[Camanche]

lol wth.

I figured it out anyway. You have to earn the little titles and pictures.

[Shin]

I don't know who I'm good with, but I am kinda good with Abel and Dhalsim.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Rose and Cammy(the character, not the Canuck, still love her too tho :p) are my favorites so far.

[Gen Eric Gui]

It's all about Gen and Sakura, people.

[EvilHero]

^ Gen's a toughie to pick up, much more complicated character. I played him alot in Alpha and i'm still having a hard time adjusting to how he is in IV. Sakura is more or less the same, only now she can juggle practically anything off of her ex tatsu, UGH... I'm finding her to be a pain to fight.

Playing mainly Ryu and Chun li. Rose, Abel and Bison are my secondaries, i'll be picking up Gen again later too.

Oh and Cammy's garbage IMO, pls blv. :P

[SickleCellAnemia]

EDIT: NVM, you figured out how Cam

[Dead to Rights]

Oh and I suck using Cammy, pls blv. :P

Word.

[Delition]

Does anyone have any hints for using either Cammy or El Fuerte?

I enjoy using both characters, but I fear that I've become too predictable / ####ty as both of them. I've been able to beat a few different people online as Cammy, but I'm nowhere near good.

[EvilHero]

Oh and I suck using Cammy, pls blv. :P

Word.

psh, as if i'd be caught dead using Cammy! :P

Does anyone have any hints for using either Cammy or El Fuerte?

I enjoy using both characters, but I fear that I've become too predictable / ####ty as both of them. I've been able to beat a few different people online as Cammy, but I'm nowhere near good.

Fuerte isn't a very beginner friendly character, you really need to utilize alot of mind games with his dash moves along with his infinite.

Read through this thread for a run down on some of his moves:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=160699

That'll get you started, but your going to need to look up character specific match ups if you want to get really good.

Heres a video of one of the better Elf players:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmBS7V6DI0

I found this more funny than informative, lil shoto's guide to Elf:
http://www.iplaywinner.com/strategy-advice/2009/2/5/el-fuerte-run-stop-fierce-guide-by-lil-shoto.html

As for Cammy:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=168799

I don't play Cammy at all, but from what i've encountered when playing against her, her best range is just outside sweep distance, utilize footsies and cammy's fast back dash to bait out a whiffed poke and punish with a cannon strike or spiral arrow. Spin knuckle works well against fireballs too. Her ultra is also very good for punishing fireball users, got hit from all the way across the screen while throwing an ex kikoken with Chun 0_0

Cammy will take some practice, she doesn't have alot of the tools that make alot of the fighter's effective, so she's kinda low on the tier list (at least for now, anyways.)

[Gen Eric Gui]

^ Gen's a toughie to pick up, much more complicated character. I played him alot in Alpha and i'm still having a hard time adjusting to how he is in IV. Sakura is more or less the same, only now she can juggle practically anything off of her ex tatsu, UGH... I'm finding her to be a pain to fight.

It's one of the many things I loved about his character. He's one of the few characters where it's really noticeable if you're a good player or not. There's a lot to learn, but once you have most of it down he's probably the most dangerous and unpredictable character in the game. Screw those wheel kicks though.

Plus, he's as strong as Akuma despite having Leukemia, which is pretty amazing.

I love juggling off of EX Tatsu. It lets me do Yuri Sakazaki-style uppercut combos; even if they're aren't very effective, they're still cool. And it gives Sakura Otoshi a reason for existing, which is nice.

[EvilHero]

I loved the Gen vs. Akuma intro. I think Gen's the only guy to ever actually block a raging demon. The thing I like most about him is his very obscure normals during his crane stance (crouching fierce that does 1/4 health only on counter hit/crouching short that sends you airborne.) Its a shame they took away his alpha style chain combos and his cancer fist.

I remember Udon killing him off in the comic book, this was before he was announced as a character, of course. Really wrote themselves into a corner there, lol.

Actually got to play some online matches under my XBL tag tonight. I've started playing on best of 5 rounds, 3 rounds isn't enough time for me to get down my opponents strategy. I got to experience first hand just how frusterating a good Sagat player is, i've always just read about it up until now.

[Shin]

If any of ya ever want to fight me online, I have a PS3, so, if you have my PSN, I'm ready for a fight.

[EvilHero]

^ Added you, Shin. Added most of you actually.

Played Hamel today, good matches Hamel, it was fun :D

[Shin]

I'll be playing tomorrow.
Be warned, I'm not that good... XD

[Hamel]

^ Added you, Shin. Added most of you actually.

Played Hamel today, good matches Hamel, it was fun :D

Yes YOU were good
I sucked
(was it 8 or 9 matches?I lost them all)

[Nytebane]

I haven't played it yet...mainly because I felt that after buying Street Fighter Alpha Anthology, I really don't need a new SF game (ever).

Is it really as good as everyone is making it out to be or is all the fuse just because it is an SF game?

Either way, I'll be playing it tomorrow - my friend is bringing it over after work.

[Hamel]

I haven't played it yet...mainly because I felt that after buying Street Fighter Alpha Anthology, I really don't need a new SF game (ever).

Is it really as good as everyone is making it out to be or is all the fuse just because it is an SF game?

Either way, I'll be playing it tomorrow - my friend is bringing it over after work.

Best SF made IMO

[Shin]

I haven't played it yet...mainly because I felt that after buying Street Fighter Alpha Anthology, I really don't need a new SF game (ever).

Is it really as good as everyone is making it out to be or is all the fuse just because it is an SF game?

Either way, I'll be playing it tomorrow - my friend is bringing it over after work.

Best SF made IMO

First one I ever played, but man, I love it!

[hibiki_takami]

It's definitely the most accessible Street Fighter game since SF2. Agreed with everyone ^

[Shin]

No questions there, the only character I seriously have trouble using is El Fuerte and Vega

[EvilHero]

Just got done playing with another Atlus/Arlus member. I'm really glad to see the fighting game scene pick up again after all these years.

I'm just throwing this out there but. If any of you feel like you want to take this a step further, like Street Fighter IV is more than just a game you'll play for a couple weeks then shelve, please feel free to let me know if you have any questions or want any help on improving your game. Anything I can do to help the Fighting game community gain another member.

[Shin]

I'm trying my best to become better, but yesterday I did trounce my friend whos been playing SF since he was little, so I'm starting to feel better about my abilities

[Nytebane]

I haven't played it yet...mainly because I felt that after buying Street Fighter Alpha Anthology, I really don't need a new SF game (ever).

Is it really as good as everyone is making it out to be or is all the fuse just because it is an SF game?

Either way, I'll be playing it tomorrow - my friend is bringing it over after work.

Best SF made IMO

I finally played it yesterday - one of my friends brought his copy over. We did a Vs. tourny and then spent the rest of the time unlocking most of the other characters (except for Gouken).
I have to say - I kind of misjudged the game, I do like it...but Seth does suck some fun out of the game.
I think SFIV will be the last SF game I ever purchase (unless by some chance they release a version with EVERY single SF character in it)

But it's great

[Shin]

Right now I'm gonna work on getting Akuma & Gouken, wish me luck, people!
For Gouken, I need two perfect wins, and 2 Ultra Combo finishes, right?

[Nytebane]

Right now I'm gonna work on getting Akuma & Gouken, wish me luck, people!
For Gouken, I need two perfect wins, and 2 Ultra Combo finishes, right?

Complete the game with Akuma. Then get at least 1 perfect, 3 Ultra Finishes, 5 first attacks and don't use any continues.

So says GameFAQs.

Good luck

[Delition]

The best way to try is to set the rounds to 1.

[Shin]

No worries, I got him on my first try, thank God for Akuma's easy to do (And simply awesome) Ultra combo
Shun Goku Satsu for the win!

[Hamel]

Played against Camanche today
Was fun playing against you and hopefully we will fight again
Practice your defence!

[Camanche]

Yeah, I know. Least I decided to learn how to block. :D

[EvilHero]

I never thought it was going to come, but it did!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/SSJVegeta76/HPIM1783.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/SSJVegeta76/HPIM1784.jpg

[SlaughterX]

Congratulations, I should have one too next month. I just got a pad and I'm about to play my friend for a little while but if I see you on I will send you an invite.

[SlaughterX]

Looks like the PC (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3173983) version will be a GFWL title, if only it had cross platform MP...

Anyway my TE stick should be here sometime this month if MadCatz doesn't screw up again...

[SlaughterX]

There will be a bundle (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002914DLK?ie=UTF8&tag=1upcom0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002914DLK) for the PC version that comes with the Ryu 360 pad for $60. Sucks I've had 2 pads preordered since February and they're holding back controllers for #### like this...

[Camanche]

Is anyone still playing this? I get my tv back this weekend!

[Hamel]

Is anyone still playing this? I get my tv back this weekend!

My TV just decided to give up on me today so I will probably only be able to play this again next week or so

[Yazarc]

Ugh.....I think my TV is on its way out too. I just need it to last until I get back from vacation.

[EvilHero]

Is anyone still playing this? I get my tv back this weekend!

I still play regularly, mostly offline or over XBL, I haven't been on PSN in forever (since my stick stopped working.)

I'm still eager to play some of you, i'll have to get on PSN and just play with a regular controller. :)

[Camanche]

Sounds good. Just give me a week.

[Logan]

I still play regularly, mostly offline or over XBL, I haven't been on PSN in forever (since my stick stopped working.)

I'm still eager to play some of you, i'll have to get on PSN and just play with a regular controller. :)

You got the SE stick for PS3, right EH? I take it they suck just like the old days with Mad Catz? That's too bad, I've been wanting a stick(affordable) but maybe I'll just wait for a fightpad or something. :\

I've gotten back into it. I've been doing a lot of the hard trials recently. So far I've finished Ryu, E. Honda, Blanka, Zangief, M. Bison, and Rose. I've done at least 1 or 2+ with most other characters as well. I can already tell that Gen's are going to make me rage with all the style changing you need to do during combos.

[EvilHero]

Sounds good. Just give me a week.

I'll be waiting. Just let me know.


You got the SE stick for PS3, right EH? I take it they suck just like the old days with Mad Catz? That's too bad, I've been wanting a stick(affordable) but maybe I'll just wait for a fightpad or something. :\


Yeah, I got the standard stick for the PS3, i'm hearing even the TE sticks are having issues though. Mad Catz used high quality sticks and buttons, but it seems like they skimpt on everything else. Tech forum topics talk about wiring and loose washer issues plaguing the sticks.

Mad Catz only has a 60 or 90 day warranty on these. Didn't all the other stuff they sold have a life time warranty? It figures...

I was planning on having Mad Catz fix it, but I think i'm just going to order better parts and put them in myself.

[Logan]

^Damn, that's too bad bro. Mad Catz strikes again. :\ What stick would you recommend if any? I haven't really been able to find any ever since SFIV was released.

I finished up with Guile, Dhalsim, Sagat, and Dan. Although I'm starting to get stuck on a lot of other characters now.

[EvilHero]

^Damn, that's too bad bro. Mad Catz strikes again. :\ What stick would you recommend if any? I haven't really been able to find any ever since SFIV was released.


Generally, anything made by Hori. The real arcade pros (usually referred to as HRAPs) are the most common.

Despite that, any arcade stick can still break (my buddy had a Hori that broke after about 6 monthes) if you're still dedicated enough, its like any other piece of equipment used in competition, know how to fix and maintain it. Most of the really good players just order better parts and swap them in.

Some sticks are easier to mod than others. Some are like the SFIV sticks that came out (swappable parts, plug and play wires) while some others require you to take a soldering iron at them. I had a buddy who recently took a soldering iron to his Tekken 5 LE stick, it was pretty cool.

Damn, all this talk makes me want to play some SFIV. I haven't had time in a while, and when I do, i'm usually dropping it into RPGs. Not to mention, UFC Undisputed comes out next week...

[SlaughterX]

I finally got my TE stick a few days ago, but I need a lot of practice in this game...

[EvilHero]

How is yours handling, Slaughter?

Mines doing just fine, but i've got a friend whose stick is acting up. The actual stick part of it isn't responding so well. Like alot of people, I think he's getting the washer problem.

[SickleCellAnemia]

^Damn, that's too bad bro. Mad Catz strikes again. :\ What stick would you recommend if any? I haven't really been able to find any ever since SFIV was released.


Generally, anything made by Hori. The real arcade pros (usually referred to as HRAPs) are the most common.
I have a Real Arcade Pro 3, it's pretty darn good.

[Yet Another Tim]

And speaking of SFIV and joysticks, is the x-Arcade joystick worth a recommendation?

PS: I'll get me the PC version. Also, TIGER!

http://www.xgaming.com/two-player.shtml

[EvilHero]

And speaking of SFIV and joysticks, is the x-Arcade joystick worth a recommendation?


I wouldn't buy it.

1. Right off the bat, it uses the U.S style 'bat top' (see what I did there? ho!) I don't know about you guys, my Street Fighter Anniversary Edition stick uses one, and its garbage.

2. The button layout. First, the button's aren't sprayed like a traditional Japanese stick. Second, they have those two VERY obnoxious buttons sitting below the other 6. I can't see how you could possibly rest your fingers on the buttons and not have your wrist come into contact with those other buttons. Even if you can disable them, they're still a pain.

3. I don't know what kind of parts it uses, but something tells me they aren't that great.

4. Too friggin big. 90% of the time, I have to lug my stick to someone else's house to play, that one would be too much of a pain to bring with me. Not to mention, it doesn't look like I could rest it in my lap.


Just some personal observations. If that stuff doesn't bug you, then by all means, go for it.

Btw, I finally hopped onto PSN for the first time in forever. Guess who I got to play? Our good friend Kupo! :D

[SickleCellAnemia]

Btw, I finally hopped onto PSN for the first time in forever. Guess who I got to play? Our good friend Kupo! :D

Please tell me you mopped the floor with him...

[EvilHero]

Suprisingly, Kupo's probably the best i've played so far out of the Atlus/Arlus forum members. He just needs to work on some combos and learn some character specific match ups.

[Logan]

^We'll have to play sometime, EH. I'm not great but I may learn something from going up against you at the very least.

And I didn't see Cammy on AT ALL this weekend. Wussed out again IMO. :P

[EvilHero]

^We'll have to play sometime, EH. I'm not great but I may learn something from going up against you at the very least.


Oh for sure, you've been on my list since the beginning, Logan. :P

I actually play more online SF at my buddy's house than I do at home. We just got to the G2 tier on Championship mode. It's a whole new level of competition; intimidating playing against guys with 10,000+ GP, but we've been holding our own so far. One thing's for sure, NO easy victories (no flow chart Kens, either :D)

[SickleCellAnemia]

It's a whole new level of competition; intimidating playing against guys with 10,000+ GP, but we've been holding our own so far.
Holy ####.

One thing's for sure, NO easy victories (no flow chart Kens, either :D)
lol

[MetatronTorment]

I've played it a couple of times over PlayStation Network. I only have, like, 40 GP or something. :lol:

[SlaughterX]

Just ran the benchmark (http://www.4gamer.net/games/049/G004954/20090612078/link.html?http://file.4gamer.net/demo/StreetFighterIV_Benchmark.zip) on my computer, superior version confirmed (if you have a decent rig)... Here are some super high res screens I took using the new filters...

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/SF4R1.jpg

Ink

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/SF4C2.jpg

Watercolor

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/SF4G3.jpg

Posterization

and here's the benchmark results, with everything maxed out (set to the highest settings) including soft shadows, AA, etc...

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb181/Genma_Gouki/SF4Bench.jpg

Now if only this game supported cross platform MP across Live... :(

[EvilHero]

They've already started modding the PC version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeqtvmEAFVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbxQZGsYl5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK1IF2deNcg

[Yet Another Tim]

Guys, Capcom just admitted it overpowered Seth and Sagat.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/13/capcom-admits-to-overpowered-seth-and-sagat-in-street-fighter-iv/

[Gen Eric Gui]

Seth isn't even that powerful. He's got the weakest attacks and the lowest health in the game. And if they're talking about Boss Seth...well...he's a boss? He's supposed to be strong.

Sagat isn't really that strong either. The real problem is that the bottom characters are really bad(Like Vega, Sakura, etc)

[EvilHero]

Guys, Capcom just admitted it overpowered Seth and Sagat.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/13/capcom-admits-to-overpowered-seth-and-sagat-in-street-fighter-iv/

Way to go Capcom, telling the FG community not only something they already knew, but something they found out.


EVO takes place all this weekend, they've got the live feed up here:
http://evo2k.com/live/

Couple of buddies of mine went, wish I could have went with them. One of them ranks as the 3rd best in Michigan, hopefully he has a good performance there.

Hearing what i'm assuming is East Coast players in the audience makes me LOL.