Revelations Persona

[Tsuko]

why did Persona 1 have to be tossed into a Blender before being released over here with new character photos, no Snow Queen route, and the few traces that the game took place in Japan were the Shrines and a few other things

[Sayckeone]

You're annoying.

[Tsuko]

You're annoying.

Aren't we all?

[Azriel Crusnik]

never played this but would love to play it one day.

[Sayckeone]

You're annoying.

Aren't we all?
Not like you.

[Tsuko]

never played this but would love to play it one day.
Even though it was tossed around and made easier for those of us here that arent good at rpgs, its still a good game regardless and well worth buying unless its above 50$

When i say "here" i mean the US not the forums btw

[Kakizaki]

Dude.......Jesus....You are asking this about a game that was released at a time when hardly anyone would release rpgs in the 'states -- especially ones that weren't based in medieval fantasy. Atlus took a huge risk and wanted to get the game out before Xmas. I believe there are hardly any Atlus USA staffers left from that period -- maybe Yu?

Seriously. Doesn't common sense come into play? This was December of 96. Come on......

[Sayckeone]

^Not even Yu Namba. Either it was Tomm or Gail that made it very clear that those who worked on Persona 1 no longer worked at Atlus. Whomever it was went so far as to say that NO ONE that worked at Atlus at the time was still there.

[Kakizaki]

Ohhh, okay. ;) For some reason I thought at least Gail was there.

Even if someone would have been there, it was 96 and understandable.

[Sayckeone]

^Oh word! even is that case; but yeah. At the time, Gail was possibly the one who was there the longest, and I would say he join after P1.

[Kakizaki]

^Yeah, I think you are right. I can't find much about him previous to 98.

[Hossaria]

never played this but would love to play it one day.
Even though it was tossed around and made easier for those of us here that arent good at rpgs, its still a good game regardless and well worth buying unless its above 50$

When i say "here" i mean the US not the forums btw
I think we all must forget about the american version of this game, it's like the "black sheep" of Atlus USA.

[Kakizaki]

Yeah, people need to keep in mind what the state of the rpg market was in the U.S. at the time, and that the title has no bearing on current Atlus USA localizations.

[cj iwakura]

I'm thankful we even got the game. Even with a mediocre translation, it still stood out as being unique.

I knew nothing about SMT when I played it, and just the setting alone struck me as something special.

[jeffx]

I Day One'd this game!!! But I don't know where it is today :(

[Kakizaki]

It is just unfortunate the DS localization was scrapped for the Saturn. I have a Gamefan magazine where there was even a tentative release date slated. :(

[James Fiend]

It is just unfortunate the DS localization was scrapped for the Saturn. I have a Gamefan magazine where there was even a tentative release date slated. :(I'd love a portable version of Persona. Then again, I was sort of shocked at the drop in quality (aesthetically) for Disgaea on the DS, so maybe I need to work on my PSP.

[Kakizaki]

^The PSP port of DS is pretty nice looking. Shame it couldn't make it here either.....

[Inzaghi]

I'm thankful we even got the game. Even with a mediocre translation, it still stood out as being unique.

I knew nothing about SMT when I played it, and just the setting alone struck me as something special.

Yeah, I got it because I'd bought my PSone for FF7, and I wanted an RPG to play until that was out, and Suikoden and Persona were your only choices in 1996. I think even with the heavily garbled translation, enough of the important subject matter and themes shone through for it to blow my mind.

[Tsuko]

^The PSP port of DS is pretty nice looking. Shame it couldn't make it here either.....

Atlus should localize Devil Summoner PSP, PSP will be alive for a long time, They would make alot of money off it

[Kakizaki]

^They can't for apparent technical reasons. At least that is the rumor.

[cj iwakura]

Then they've better have told Atlus JP not to screw up the all-but-guaranteed Soul Hackers port.

Second time's the charm.


A retranslated Persona PSP would also be excellent for similar reasons.

[Tsuko]

Then they've better have told Atlus JP not to screw up the all-but-guaranteed Soul Hackers port.

Second time's the charm.


A retranslated Persona PSP would also be excellent for similar reasons.

yea, it would be great to see any of those come out over here, I've heard a rumor that Atlus USA tried to bring Soul Hackers over here years ago for PSX but Sony of America refused to allow it

[James Fiend]

A retranslated Persona PSP would also be excellent for similar reasons.
Yeah, I think this is a better point than wondering if the original would have been better if it were complete. It's like asking if a game would have been better if it were better.

[Kakizaki]

Then they've better have told Atlus JP not to screw up the all-but-guaranteed Soul Hackers port.

Second time's the charm.


A retranslated Persona PSP would also be excellent for similar reasons.

You would think SH may be guaranteed, but it has been almost 3 years since DS was released on PSP.

Unfortunately, even if it did happen, I could almost see the same thing occuring again since SH was released on Saturn (then PSX) originally.

[DevilRy]

Dude.......Jesus....You are asking this about a game that was released at a time when hardly anyone would release rpgs in the 'states -- especially ones that weren't based in medieval fantasy. Atlus took a huge risk and wanted to get the game out before Xmas. I believe there are hardly any Atlus USA staffers left from that period -- maybe Yu?

Seriously. Doesn't common sense come into play? This was December of 96. Come on......

I don't remember it being that bad... If anything that was around the time of an RPG boom in the states.

I mean take any RPG fan's top ten list of RPGs of all time. Just about every one consists mostly of games from before Persona was even released: Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Dragon Quest IV, Final Fantasy III, etc. etc.

I'll grant you the medieval-themes, but a bungled localization is a bungled localization. To still give Atlus USA guff for it is pretty ridiculous agreed, but I don't think it excuses what they (and under the influence of other notorious third parties) did to it.

Btw, Kakizaki, what's up? :p

[Kakizaki]

^Herro. ;)

[bullman422]

I'll never forget when I first read about this game in the preview section of EGM. It definitely had my interest as it looked very offbeat and nothing like the other RPG out there (at least in America). I got it the first day it came out and have been pretty much a Megaten fan ever since. Sure it was far from perfect. Trying to pass off a modern day japan as modern American even with Dojos visible all over the place was laughable. Even worse was the translation. The main characters are supposed to be high school students but you'd be hard pressed in believing that when you hear stuff like " Hey! Shut up" or "No! You're stupid". It sounds more like you are dealing with preschoolers than preteens. Oh and then there is the whole white/black Mark (Yo Wuzzup!) silliness. Oh wait! On second though never mind... :D

Anyway despite those goofs, Persona One is still one of my all time favorite RPG. I loved the modern setting, creating personas, and demon contacting (something sadly missing from the latest sequels) and I would highly recommend it to anyone who can still find it without paying mega inflated Ebay prices.

BTW. In case there are a few of you who still don't know, if you have a game shark you can still play the snow queen quest. You'll need a good FAQ to help you through most of the game since most of it isn't untranslated and text appears as garbage, but you should still find it enjoyable at least when it isn't kicking you in the butt too much.

[DevilRy]

Plus, in the SQQ you get to fight Taro!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7443/torogi8.gif

[cj iwakura]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

[Hossaria]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.
Mara isn't just a penis, he's the almighty phallic god.

[Kakizaki]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

It would be worth it.

[bullman422]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

Considering you are fighting demons and able to summon personas like Lucifer and Beelzebub, I am surprised the game got a E/K-A rating in the first place.

[DevilRy]

They left Pandora alone too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/phantomlimbs/pandora.gif

[QBasic]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

It would be worth it.
God bless online console stores?

[James Fiend]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

It would be worth it.
God bless online console stores?

Credit cards are usually less accessible than games rated Teen for chilluns.

[Hossaria]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

Considering you are fighting demons and able to summon personas like Lucifer and Beelzebub, I am surprised the game got a E/K-A rating in the first place.

Well, they were renamed, obviously...

[bullman422]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.

Considering you are fighting demons and able to summon personas like Lucifer and Beelzebub, I am surprised the game got a E/K-A rating in the first place.

Well, they were renamed, obviously...

Maybe in a few cases like Satan = Dark angel (USA), I would agree.

But with others like Rushifaa Lucifer = Lucifer, Beruzabubu Beelzebub = Beezlebum, and Roki Loki = Loki, I don't think they tried too hard in censoring them.

[Zachalmighty]

Plus, in the SQQ you get to fight Taro!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7443/torogi8.gif

That thing is a sicker version of Mara lololo.

[Blizz]

I really miss Persona Revelations it was the first game I ever played when i was young but it was not my game. My cousin had it and lost it. I would buy this game dosn't matter the price to me. This game is a classic but there is no were to buy it I searched the internet for hours. I cant find one store with the game. Then i reliezed that u cant. Couple months ago. Why cant atlus re sell the game. With all the hype I bet people would buy it now more then ever. Especially since persona 3 fes and persona 3 did so good. Why can't they do a remake of Persona Revelations. For the playstation 2. What if atlus sold persona 1 revelations with the new persona like a double pack I bet a lot of people would buy it. Even though it would cost a lot I know more then 300 people who would buy it.

[Terash Cas]

I really miss Persona Revelations it was the first game I ever played when i was young but it was not my game. My cousin had it and lost it. I would buy this game dosn't matter the price to me. This game is a classic but there is no were to buy it I searched the internet for hours. I cant find one store with the game. Then i reliezed that u cant. Couple months ago. Why cant atlus re sell the game. With all the hype I bet people would buy it now more then ever. Especially since persona 3 fes and persona 3 did so good. Why can't they do a remake of Persona Revelations. For the playstation 2. What if atlus sold persona 1 revelations with the new persona like a double pack I bet a lot of people would buy it. Even though it would cost a lot I know more then 300 people who would buy it.

I bought mine off of ebay a few months ago..I think I got it for around 63 dollars.. Looks like it is $90+ now.

[GFSummoner]

I hate "lost" games.

I've only lost two my whole life.

I'm fine with Persona: Revelations the way it is. I can't imagine doing another playthrough of it.

[Kakizaki]

^I think you would change your tune if we ever received a "true" version of it. A significant amount of the game was cut out of our version - easily enough to warrant a 2nd play through for most people.

[bullman422]

^I think you would change your tune if we ever received a "true" version of it. A significant amount of the game was cut out of our version - easily enough to warrant a 2nd play through for most people.

Besides the snow queen quest and the horribly Americanized translation of the main quest, do you know if anything else was cut or censored in persona one Kakizaki? I know one minor edit was done at the local bar (beer logos were removed) but was there anything else.

[Arcana]

I've played only the USA version because in Europe wasn't released. So I don't know what the differences are, but the version I played was good enough...

[Yeaster]

Then they've better have told Atlus JP not to screw up the all-but-guaranteed Soul Hackers port.

Second time's the charm.


A retranslated Persona PSP would also be excellent for similar reasons.

yea, it would be great to see any of those come out over here, I've heard a rumor that Atlus USA tried to bring Soul Hackers over here years ago for PSX but Sony of America refused to allow it

Aww man, I would DIE if Soul Hackers were released in the US! That game looks incredible, and it'd be great to play an old MegaTen game before the series sold out.

[Soushi_Grapple]

^I think you would change your tune if we ever received a "true" version of it. A significant amount of the game was cut out of our version - easily enough to warrant a 2nd play through for most people.

Besides the snow queen quest and the horribly Americanized translation of the main quest, do you know if anything else was cut or censored in persona one Kakizaki? I know one minor edit was done at the local bar (beer logos were removed) but was there anything else.

Kakizaki, Id like to know this as well, actually.

All of the changes/edits are what prevented me from playing this game. I tried it, but the first person view is enraging.

I was smart and got mine after P3 was announced for the US. I knew it would skyrocket, so I got it for $60 on Ebay. I had DDS1 (preordered the box set on Amazon when it came out. It just looked awesome and had a neat plot IMO), Nocturne, and Persona 2 at the time. Now I have all the PS2 titles released here. =)

Oh, and what technical issues were the problem with making Soul Hackers PSP releasable in the US? If it worked in Japan, Id imagine itd work here just fine being the same software-- region free software I might add XD

[slayn]

Oh, and what technical issues were the problem with making Soul Hackers PSP releasable in the US? If it worked in Japan, Id imagine itd work here just fine being the same software-- region free software I might add XD

The issues were thematic, not technical.

[Soushi_Grapple]

Oh sorry XD I guess I read the post wrong.

Thematic makes much more sense o.O Too bad... I think games got away with a lot more in the past, really. (Still in shock they edited the cross in a spell in Star Ocean: First Departure but left a dog enemy urinating on you in instead) <-- wtf

[bullman422]

LOL! Having looked at the poll results I would like to have a conversation with the one dill weed out of twenty one who voted "NO"!

[Taroni]

I don't know if it's been said but I would love to see in the PSN store one day, SMT released for playstation, especially the Persona, ( I don't think Innocent Sin be hard to get okay'd nowadays, but still...)

[Darkined]

that would be awesome if they put these games on the PSN because it would probably cost much less than reprinting and they could make money while appeasing all the fanboys and fangirls. i am unsure of the process but i am sure that putting ps one games on psn is way easier than virtual console titles

[Auden]

i never got the chance of plaing P1 or P2... here where i live we didn't really get many games in local stores at the time, these days i always preorder or order from amazon [god bless amazon XD] but i'm dying to know how these 2 were. maybe i;ll get lucky someday

[James Fiend]

that would be awesome if they put these games on the PSN because it would probably cost much less than reprinting and they could make money while appeasing all the fanboys and fangirls. i am unsure of the process but i am sure that putting ps one games on psn is way easier than virtual console titles

I don't think Siren 2 would have gotten nearly as much attention if it wasn't a PSN store exclusive in America. I'd like to see a better version of Revelations for download.

[Taroni]

i never got the chance of plaing P1 or P2... here where i live we didn't really get many games in local stores at the time, these days i always preorder or order from amazon [god bless amazon XD] but i'm dying to know how these 2 were. maybe i;ll get lucky someday

Same here, heard of them, but ... even p3,3fes and p4 I had to order online, (yay for Credit cards) Sadder is, we have an EB games and when I tried to preorder fes and p4 it's like I had 3 heads...

[Sepherest]

"Stupid people can be happy when ruled by a smart people!"
Ahaha, I loved the narm in that game!

[DevilRy]

I'll field these. I'm such a dork for the first Persona anyhow.


Besides the snow queen quest and the horribly Americanized translation of the main quest, do you know if anything else was cut or censored in persona one Kakizaki? I know one minor edit was done at the local bar (beer logos were removed) but was there anything else.

I don't have an itemized list or anything, so this is all just off the top of my head, but here goes: As far as I can remember, the Japanese "red alert" announcer after you fight Kandori (/Guido) in the b1 level of the Sebec building was cut. The conversion of Yen to Dollars wasn't straight-up either and you ended up getting a lot more money (and experience for that matter) in the US version. There's no "Now Loading" screen in the Japanese version. The default control scheme was altered slightly. The dialog is a little-less Saturday-morning-cartoonish in the Japanese version too, but not by much. It's been so long since I've played the US version so I might have missed something. =_=

All of the changes/edits are what prevented me from playing this game. I tried it, but the first person view is enraging.

It's like that in the Japanese version too. I like the FPV though. :tongue:

Oh, and what technical issues were the problem with making Soul Hackers PSP releasable in the US? If it worked in Japan, Id imagine itd work here just fine being the same software-- region free software I might add XD

Soul Hackers would first have to be translated. Plus if you don't like Persona's FPV, Soul Hackers is 100% FPV. :P

[bullman422]

Thanks DevilRy. Most of what you mentioned I already knew about from Henry's excellent walkthru of the game (found at gamefaqs) but I didn't know about the red alert announcer. Was he removed due to time constraints or did he say or do something very risque?

[DevilRy]

^
As near as I can tell the Red-alert is just some electronic-voice sounding off numbers. There are more or less separate soundtracks for the SQ and Sebek storylines, so the SQQ-one isn't in the US version obviously. Also, in the Japanese playing manual Igor's name is translated as "IGORL." That's probably just a typo though.

[DevilRy]

Also, I'm pretty sure this was edited in the US version:
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/screenshots/loveisdrug.jpg

[Ark]

Well, that would mean farewell to Revelations' E/K-A rating.
Wasn't this the year where Mortal Kombat was making headlines for having violent/obscene content? Also, even today a M rated RPG is rare.

[Kakizaki]

^No it wasn't the same year.

[DevilRy]

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/screenshots/badweiser.jpg

The beer ad you weren't supposed to see. It looks like it says "Badweiser," but I guess the Miller people might've had a problem with it.

[Enzo_Kensei]

I've never played it yet, but for me, a complete one=better one. ^^

[bullman422]

Also, I'm pretty sure this was edited in the US version:
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss83/personaworldguidance/screenshots/loveisdrug.jpg

If you are referring to the thing that looks like a fetus (I assume that is what it is), surprisingly that made it by the censors although I'm not sure if the "Love is Drug" mat made it through. I assume the Badweiser logos got 86ed to avoid any possible lawsuits since Sega got successfully sued a few years earlier when they used Marlboro logos on one of their games.

Wasn't this the year where Mortal Kombat was making headlines for having violent/obscene content? Also, even today a M rated RPG is rare.

Persona came out in December 1996 nearly a year and a half after Mortal Kombat. Funny you should mention it though because with all the fury over Mortal Kombat practically no one even mentioned Robocop vs The Terminator (Sega) which came out the same year. During normal play it was more violent than MK and then it was even worse when you used a code that made the violence more graphic (i.e. bloody severed heads flying in the air) and included women.

[DevilRy]

^
I meant the "LOVE IS DRUG," welcome mat. :D I think the fetus-thing is a fetus version of the "half-man," a fairly popular (Japanese?) anatomical model similar to the "Bucky" life-size skeleton model.

I'll post screens of whatever else I notice as I play through the game.

[bullman422]

^
I meant the "LOVE IS DRUG," welcome mat. :D I think the fetus-thing is a fetus version of the "half-man," a fairly popular (Japanese?) anatomical model similar to the "Bucky" life-size skeleton model.

I'll post screens of whatever else I notice as I play through the game.

Thanks DevilRy! Oddly enough that photo you posted reminded me of the snow queen quest. If you play that quest in the USA version (using a gameshark code of course) there is an occasional glitch that often reverts characters back and forth between their Americanized look and their Original Japanese one though their up close sprite will remain unchanged.

[yesfan951]

I had to go thru absolute hell to get Persona 1, and I was very dissapointed to learn about the whole "snow queen" thing. I hate how slow paced the game is, but thats about the only problem I have with it.

[unknown]

Since I don't feel like making a new topic for it, the first chapter of the Persona 1 manga has been translated by a scanlation group.

[Sleepless Neko]

Since I don't feel like making a new topic for it, the first chapter of the Persona 1 manga has been translated by a scanlation group.
Really? Which group?

[anbu]

i always wonder, what happen to that philmon guy (im not sure about the name), the one who's wearing a butterfly-sort mask??? i forgot the story of this game. i only see igor and not this guy anymore in the sequels of persona...

[Sleepless Neko]

Philemon appeared in Persona 2 (both), you can even punch him.

Maybe he lost interest with humans after P2:EP event.

[anbu]

Philemon appeared in Persona 2 (both), you can even punch him.

Maybe he lost interest with humans after P2:EP event.

never finished p2:ep lol.

isnt he igors boss or something?! i wonder if we're gonna see him again...


Since I don't feel like making a new topic for it, the first chapter of the Persona 1 manga has been translated by a scanlation group.

i wanna read that manga so badly... pls pm me about it. i cant seem to find it anywhere.

[unknown]

Since I don't feel like making a new topic for it, the first chapter of the Persona 1 manga has been translated by a scanlation group.
Really? Which group?

The Kindan no Aku and Behind the Mask scanlation groups are scanning it, they just released Chapter 2 today. Sorry about the late reply, been busy with midterms.

So far I like the Persona 1 manga a lot more then the P3 and P4 one, the author did a good job in giving P1 MC a personality and is so far faithful to the original story. Too bad Tokyopop didn't bring this one over instead of SMT Kahn.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/Persona-BYTM-v1c02p061.gif

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/Persona-BYTM-v1c02p065.gif

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x165/arcstuff/Persona-BYTM-v1c02p068.jpg

[Kenji]

Not too fond of the art, but it's sure as hell better than Kahn's horrid style...

[SlaughterX]

Well if anyone is interesting in own this travesty, I just listed my copy on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=230332371690).

[Emilio Morales]

$100 O__o

[gamerdood]

The art could have used Kaneko's touch.

[slayn]

Well if anyone is interesting in own this travesty, I just listed my copy on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=230332371690).

You do realize that it's highly unlikely anyone will pay that much with a superior port on the way, don't you?

[SlaughterX]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290303241017

BTW I think that's ES's ebay account...

http://attr-search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&pfmode=2&pfid=1413&alist=a14&a14=24232&catref=C6&from=R40&dfsp=32&gcs=1135&satitle=persona+-2&sacat=139973%26catref%3DC6%26curcat%3Dtrue&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=60803&fbfmt=1&sabfmts=2&fobfmt=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00002SU93/ref=sr_1_olp_4?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1237830549&sr=1-4

The only complete copy on Amazon is $120, and most other complete copies on ebay with BIN are that price or higher, so I think $100 is pretty fair, but I will consider offers if it doesn't sell at that price.

[Kakizaki]

^I'm not trying to pick on you Slaughter, but I am contemplating pulling those links due to you hawking your stuff. I mean, Ike had his thread locked for just posting pics of the store he worked in.