Shiren 3!

[LordGek]

Hey Gang,

While I would have assumed this is something Sega would do, if they've decided to drop the ball Atlus needs to seriously consider porting over Shiren 3 (Fushigi no Dungeon - Furai no Shiren 3: Karakuri Yashiki no Nemuri Hime)!

Not only probably THE BEST of the Mystery Dungeon games so far, Chunsoft was pretty clever in how they made this something the hardcore Shiren fans (Yes, take all of my hard won gear and knock me back down to level 1 next time I enter a dungeon) but much more casual gamers would love as well. Basically they greatly toned down the difficulty of the main story dungeon (much more akin to the PMD series with a persistent level and over 30 little dungeons) while giving the hardcore all sorts of nasty challenges post story with both level resetting dungeons as well as tough challenges for the persistently leveled characters (much more than available in Shiren DS).

[Atlus Frog]

Please bring this game to the US with the original Japanese box-art Atlus! Also consider throwing in the Koppa wiimote stand as a pre-order bonus!

http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/61bjijxnuxl.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20080404/shiren02.jpg

[Sei]

Day one, especially if the Koppa thing is there. You did Baroque, this is much better.

[dragonlife29]

I AGREE 100% WITH THIS POST!

With only Baroque and Chocobo's Dungeon to fill my roguelike needs on the Wii, I'm afraid I'll need something new eventually :(

Come on, Atlus, maybe you could even do the same thing as with Growlanser: Heritage of War and skip one of the games and make a limited number of copies.

EDIT: Ooooh, that Kappa thing is so awesome!

[Bid]

I personally think that SEGA will release this along with the DS sequel. Still though, day one.

[LordGek]

Last I heard Shiren DS sold 65,000 units here in the US...is that good enough to consider porting more over or is that #### for DS sales (I really don't know).

Having now played the Japanese version of Shiren 3 since it's release in early June (and I don't even speak or read Japanese) I can testify to it's sheer addictiveness and multitude of ways to play.

I also found it interesting, that for all of the game's many cutscenes, there is no voice over, it is all in text. This indicates to me they already were thinking of a universal release as I'm sure just swapping out text is a much easier task for porters than having to re-voice act it in several different languages.

[Zed]

Day one.

[WooferJet]

Yes! Shiren 3 is my single most wanted game for any system. Only Shin Megami Tensei 4 comes close, but that hasn't even been formally announced, so really nothing comes close. It hurts to know that this might not make it to the US, as it could possibly be one of the best games of the generation, if past Shiren games and Shiren 3 impressions are anything to go by.

[Saphion]

It needs to be done! I actually bought the original Shiren after reading the NeoGAF and DSFanboy hype and ended up buying 3 copies for friends because they need to experience the awesomeness.

I'd easily do the same for Shiren 3!

Pwetty pwetty pweeeaaaaase!

[cj iwakura]

That is a gorgeous cover. Miles above the anime art for the DS release.

[LordGek]

That is a gorgeous cover. Miles above the anime art for the DS release.

Well at least we know if Sega America gets a hold of it we'll see all three of the main characters coming at us in some completely "Double Dragon" like defiant charge.

[tomasdk]

This needs to happen. While you're at it bring it over to europe too somehow pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase. Seriously.

[Kid Marin]

This needs to happen. While you're at it bring it over to europe too somehow pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase. Seriously.
Atlus doesn't publish games in Europe.

I don't know why Sega would pass on Shiren 3. It looks better than most Wii titles and the roguelike genre is not a pariah like it used to be in the west.

[Hero of legend]

I 100% support this as well!

And also, if you're able to add any new features, try to add in 16:9. :P

But PLEASE keep the box art the same! And try to make the logo as close to the Japanese version as possible, you did that for Summon Night: Twin Age!

[Atlus Frog]

Lord Gek, how is the wi-fi features? I read the game has the same feature as the DS game and then some?

[LordGek]

Lord Gek, how is the wi-fi features? I read the game has the same feature as the DS game and then some?

Cute but no big advances here.

Rescuing just like in Shiren DS with the one tweak that besides the standard free random prize for performing a rescue (and additional prizes if the rescuee sends you a thank you), you get rescue points. These rescue points can net you prizes once they pass certain thresholds and I think can get you even bigger prizes if you manage to be like the top rescuer point earner of the month (points gained from a rescue appears to be based on the difficulty of the rescue via the depth and dungeon the rescue is performed in). It's this rescue point thing that will somehow have some cross compatibility with Shiren DS 2 (I'm guessing your earned points can be shared across the two systems).

Three additional Wi-Fi bits:
-Dungeon Fighting: A big misnomer, it is really just a race against others (I think as many as 10 if not more) in real-time to be the first to clear a seven level dungeon. While you all are supposedly racing in the same dungeon at the same time, you are all actually in your own instances of the exact same dungeon, it isn't like you can ever encounter each other or in anyway effect what they find in the level. To also render it more boring, you're character is already 15th level and can take out anything you run into bare-handed (although you do still find stuff). I have never even come close to winning a race and have no idea what can be gained from winning...I think it might be something like rescue points but seems to only be given to the winner.
-Trading Items: I still have no clue how this works. In some of the dungeons there exist both "Sender" and "Receiver" Jars that you should be able to load up and or receive items over Wi-Fi. I know I have sent random crap out over the Wi-Fi but I've never been able to receive anything so I really don't get how this works. This would probably be best with WFC buds as opposed to doing with the general public.
-Downloadable Dungeons: This is the coolest feature of all BUT I don't get what the plan is here. They released 2 dungeons so far, one on July 4th and another on July 18th but then nothing. These are cool dungeons (much like in Shiren DS, it's not really NEW items or monsters, just some fun level resetting dungeons with unique rules/parameters to make things interesting) but I have no clue if they are still planning more or if that was it as these two dungeons were announced long before even the game was released in Early June. I haven't seen any of the FAQ or official pages hinting at the next batch (which I HOPE we'll eventually see as there were many clever downloadable dungeons templates in Asuka Shiren they have yet to add to this game).

[WooferJet]

Ah that dungeon fighting thing isn't too exciting. Then again, this game isn't exactly tailored for multiplayer play, like most turn-based games aren't. I was seriously baffled trying to figure out how they'd do it, actually, so it doesn't surprise that it's more of a quick time trial-style race.

I am interested in the downloadable dungeons and improved rescues, but otherwise it's not a big deal. Single player should be more than enough to keep me busy for a looong time.

[Kakizaki]

I would support this if Sega doesn't move on it.

[LordGek]

Ah that dungeon fighting thing isn't too exciting. Then again, this game isn't exactly tailored for multiplayer play, like most turn-based games aren't. I was seriously baffled trying to figure out how they'd do it, actually, so it doesn't surprise that it's more of a quick time trial-style race.

I am interested in the downloadable dungeons and improved rescues, but otherwise it's not a big deal. Single player should be more than enough to keep me busy for a looong time.

One of the downloadable dungeons in particular, Mystery Shrine, is very clever and original. As stated previously it doesn't actually introduce any new creatures or items yet is a TOTALLY NEW WAY to play the game! I like to refer to it as a "Scooby Doo" dungeon which I hope will make sense once I describe the basic details.

Like many other of these post story dungeons, your level is reset to 1 and you'll start off with nothing more than a rice ball. Here is the nasty twist, every monster you see in this dungeon is INSANELY OVERPOWERED (usually level 3 or 4 incarnations of the monster type) and can kill you in 1 hit. If this weren't nasty enough you'll NEVER find a weapon, shield, or any sort of directly offensive item in the dungeon! So since slaying beasties is nearly impossible all you really can do is RUN for the stairs in each level and pray nobody notices you. To make this seemingly impossible task at least a bit more manageable you will find several pre-identified items that will help you elude and or hinder the opposition. Items like herbs of teleport, wands of paralysis and slow, scrolls of sleep and confusion, etc.). I love how these basic tweaks turn Shiren into a Stealth game ("Solid Shiren"?).

[Atlus Frog]

So since slaying beasties is nearly impossible all you really can do is RUN for the stairs in each level and pray nobody notices you. To make this seemingly impossible task at least a bit more manageable you will find several pre-identified items that will help you elude and or hinder the opposition. Items like herbs of teleport, wands of paralysis and slow, scrolls of sleep and confusion, etc.). I love how these basic tweaks turn Shiren into a Stealth game ("Solid Shiren"?).
Stealth runs? That is a great idea!

So what is your opinion on Shiren 3 vs Shiren DS? Do you think 3 is too easy, or do you think the tweaks and changes are better? Honestly, I was worried that it was too easy, but from what I have read Shiren 3 sounds better and like it has way more length and replay value. Obviously it has better production values. Please give a detailed view on which you think is better.

[LordGek]

Well for one thing, even though I don't really understand Japanese, I've been playing Shiren 3 near non-stop since I got it early June and have no urge to return to Shiren DS (although, to be honest, I'd been playing that now for nearly 2 years off and on so I may have just OD on it a bit).

I found the main story of Shiren 3 kind of cumbersome since it now, even though there is much less back tracking, it seems to go on FOREVER and I really just wanted to get my hands on the Post story stuff (plus having cutscenes in a text you don't understand takes any fun the story may have presented...it has enough weird spins that trying to just guess what might be up via the context of the many detailed CGI bits didn't help much). There are 30+ mini dungeons you'll need to trek through although the majority are just about 7 levels, there are some longer ones in there as well.

I really enjoy the new items as now it really does seem to have the best ideas of the previous Shiren and Torneko games all in one stop.

The ally command/control system is EASILY the best of the Mystery Dungeon series so far. You really do some pretty specific tweaking on how you want your allies to move about and which community items you'll allow them to use IF not simply controlling everyone yourself (although best only done in boss fights as trying to tell all three characters what to do movement by movement is incredibly tedious in just normal dungeon play).

They seemed to have kept ALMOST all of the beasties from Shiren DS (and don't fret, many old favorites you don't see in the main story will show up in the post story stuff) plus a BUNCH of totally new folk with some incredibly clever abilities (few were Earth shattering but just clever tweaks on the old mechanics that I'd have never even thought of as a new ability for the beasties).

My only bitch now is trying to figure out the mechanics to the blank scrolls this time around. I think it should be pretty much the same idea as they were in Shiren DS but often the stuff I write is not working and since I don't understand the error message that comes up in Japanese I can't tell why. I doubt it is spelling errors as I double check my Japanese spelling vs. my various FAQs and it sure looks dead on but then again maybe it's something obvious that I'm missing. As far as I can tell at this point it looks like a handful of scrolls are good from the get go but stuff like Enchant Weapon or Enchant Shield are requiring that you had previously read that scroll ON THE CURRENT RUN which is nasty in the Food Dungeon as these are scrolls that only occur in shops and not that frequently at that (but then the same could be said about the few that do seem to work from the get go so I don't get the difference). I also KNOW that these are scrolls that occur in this dungeon as I could understand if the game didn't want me using scrolls that can never be found in the current dungeon for balance reasons.



So since slaying beasties is nearly impossible all you really can do is RUN for the stairs in each level and pray nobody notices you. To make this seemingly impossible task at least a bit more manageable you will find several pre-identified items that will help you elude and or hinder the opposition. Items like herbs of teleport, wands of paralysis and slow, scrolls of sleep and confusion, etc.). I love how these basic tweaks turn Shiren into a Stealth game ("Solid Shiren"?).
Stealth runs? That is a great idea!

So what is your opinion on Shiren 3 vs Shiren DS? Do you think 3 is too easy, or do you think the tweaks and changes are better? Honestly, I was worried that it was too easy, but from what I have read Shiren 3 sounds better and like it has way more length and replay value. Obviously it has better production values. Please give a detailed view on which you think is better.

[jeffx]

Last I heard Shiren DS sold 65,000 units here in the US...is that good enough to consider porting more over or is that #### for DS sales (I really don't know).

wow. I'm impressed, I never thought one of the most hardcore roguelikes ever made would sell that many copies. That is probably crap numbers in the greater picture, but (and don't crucify me) that's more than VGchartz estimates for Etrian Odyssey 2 (which is my game of the year until Persona 4)

I fully 100% support Shiren 3 coming to the US courtesy of Atlus, who would most likely do a better + quicker job than Sega. Furthermore we need more hardcore Wii games, that's a great big niche that's just waiting to be exploited.

[LordGek]

Last I heard Shiren DS sold 65,000 units here in the US...is that good enough to consider porting more over or is that #### for DS sales (I really don't know).

wow. I'm impressed, I never thought one of the most hardcore roguelikes ever made would sell that many copies. That is probably crap numbers in the greater picture, but (and don't crucify me) that's more than VGchartz estimates for Etrian Odyssey 2 (which is my game of the year until Persona 4)

I fully 100% support Shiren 3 coming to the US courtesy of Atlus, who would most likely do a better + quicker job than Sega. Furthermore we need more hardcore Wii games, that's a great big niche that's just waiting to be exploited.

There is NO DENYING that Chunsoft wrote the book when it comes to addictive roguelikes via the Mystery Dungeon series which clearly both Izuna and Baroque were trying to sort of emulate more than just merely being generic roguelikes.

[jeffx]

^ I'm confused by your long sentence... I'm on your side dude.

[LordGek]

^ I'm confused by your long sentence... I'm on your side dude.

I'm MR. RUN-ON SENTENCE here!

Just that if Atlus has already been willing to publish some of the better IMITATORS of the Mystery Dungeon games, why not publish something from the folk who invented this specific genre of console roguelikes?

I was trying to join in with an "Amen, Brother", not to dispute anything you said if that is what you may have thought.

[getter77]

I would also be very elated if Atlus were to bring over Shiren III on Wii in a grand fashion. Every other Roguelike for the system thus far has been brought over, and as Gek mentions, Shiren III may well be the best wrought of them all thus far.

Sales wise, well, odds are very good that all the Shiren DS folks would buy it, the Chocobo's Dungeon grizzled veterans and newcomers alike would likely buy it to slake their classic or newfound thirst, and the Baroque folk that perhaps came for the story and real timey slaughtering could well stick around to explore the concept that Baroque was trying to shift along an alternate, parallel direction. Izuna fans migth well jump in as well since something resembling their Talisman system is in Shiren III as well.

I sincerely hope Atlus can manage this if the oppourtunity avails itself to them. The Roguelike is one of gaming's oldest yet seldomly venerated and often misunderstood entities and Atlus has shown each one it has brought over the appropriate respect it deserves to the best of their abilities.

[dragonlife29]

Holy ####, I love your "voice" ^ =D

I wholeheartedly agree, old chap *fixes monocle*

[Logan]

I doubt Atlus would touch this. With that said, Day One.

[LordGek]

A semi spoiler I just posted on GameFAQs about some of the differences between the "Food Dungeon" of Shiren DS as opposed to the new form it takes in Shiren 3:

Hey Gang,

As I've been doing nothing but the Food Dungeon in Shiren 3 for the longest time (you sort of need to in order to unlock the Shiren 3's equivalent to Fay's Dungeon) and have become very addicted even if I'm not getting that far. Here are some of the bigger differences from Shiren DS' version of this same dungeon:

-No Gold Laying About: The only way you can make cash in the Shiren 3 Food Dungeon is to seel stuff and the items that will net you the most are key monster meats. While there is some logic in the pricing of corpses, with the monsters with the more useful abilities and higher evolved forms making you more cash, there are many exceptions to the rule. You'll just need to learn early on which corpses are worth hanging onto for their useful abilities and which you're only keeping in hopes of finding a shop to sell them all for buckets of cash.

-No Riceballs in this Dungeon or it's Shops: You'll find that monster meat now restores 20 points of food satiation (as opposed to 10 as in Shiren DS) but unless you use a monster that can generate it's own food, you'll need to live off eating the meats.

-Make Your Own Scrolls: The only scrolls you'll ever find in the dungeon itself are those of remove curse BUT something this dungeon gives you all of the tools to do even fairly early is to make any scroll you want on your own! If you dump any scroll in the water it turns into a "Wet Scroll". Once a wet scroll dries, however, it becomes a Blank Scroll on which you can write any scroll you've already used in the game so far. The trickiest part of all of this is drying the wet scrolls which, if left in your pack only have something like a 5% chance of drying every time you change floors. You can turn this into a 100% chance of drying if you bless the wet scroll first, however, and the monster who's meat allows you to do this is available pretty early on in the Food Dungeon.

-Burnt Monster Meat: Another new concept is that of burnt monster meat (just like normal riceballs, meat is burnt if it lays in your inventory outside of a jar when you are hit by any sort of fire or explosion). Besides being a decent source of food nutrition, every time you eat burnt monster meat (regardless of what creature it may have been previously) will grant you some random ability for the duration of the current dungeon level (usually mirroring some bracelet effect).

[Atlus Frog]

I doubt Atlus would touch this. With that said, Day One.
Why not? They published Baroque on PS2/Wii. And they published Izuna1&2 on DS. There are already two roguelikes translated and relased in the US for Wii.

Post Final Fantasy: Fables it seems like a good idea to me. That game was a good training ground for gamers new to the genre.

Atlus is the perfect company to do this!

[Logan]

That logo in the top left corner on the boxart is what makes me think so. Although if Sega doesn't want to localize this then I do hope Atlus picks it up and makes me eat my words.

[jeffx]

Logan I'm sure you're aware that Atlus USA have published Sega games in the past? I'm assuming there's some sort of connection left, though it's been a while (4 years to be exact)

Similarly, I've also been hoping Atlus can take care of Thunderforce VI, starting a new SHMUP publishing label in the process (much like WD's Spaz)

[Hero of legend]

I have Chocobo's Dungeon and love it! My first dungeon game! :D

So as long as Shiren 3 isn't so difficult that it can make one sick (and it seems like it's not! :P), then I'm ready to get it day one!

Thanks Chocobo, for introducing me to this great genre!

Hey Gek, were there any glitches or slowdown for example, that Atlus could hopefully fix during the localization process if they do bring it over? Best to let them know in advance!

The only thing I've seen that should be added is 16:9 support, but Atlus, PLEASE fix any glitches and slowdown or whatever the game has while you bring it over! 8)

Edit: Also, was anything added to Shiren DS when it was brought over Gek?

[LordGek]

After some 400 hours in (although to be truthful, I think a lot of this is time counting down as I left the system running) I haven't seen any definite glitches (but then again, who knows, maybe stuff I'm accepting as intentional is actually a bug). There might be a little slow down with big crowds but it isn't that big a deal really. The one thing that was driving me nutty so far wasn't so much a real "slow down bug" as much as having to wait for an endless stream of text to scroll by stating something to the effect of, "Frog Man enhanced, Knight enhanced, Knight enhanced, etc." until it covered all of the guys in the room and was then repeated every turn! While INCREDIBLY ANNOYING in this case, it would normally be appreciated if there were just a few folk in the room with me.

Since I played the Japanese Shiren DS (but, again, while not actually knowing any Japanese) before the English port I think it is pretty safe to say that the games were IDENTICAL except for the languages. I think my only lament is that I liked the Japanese system of simply having a single character to represent each of the weapon/shield abilities as many of the abbreviations used in the English port just feel long and awkward.

I have Chocobo's Dungeon and love it! My first dungeon game! :D

So as long as Shiren 3 isn't so difficult that it can make one sick (and it seems like it's not! :P), then I'm ready to get it day one!

Thanks Chocobo, for introducing me to this great genre!

Hey Gek, were there any glitches or slowdown for example, that Atlus could hopefully fix during the localization process if they do bring it over? Best to let them know in advance!

The only thing I've seen that should be added is 16:9 support, but Atlus, PLEASE fix any glitches and slowdown or whatever the game has while you bring it over! 8)

Edit: Also, was anything added to Shiren DS when it was brought over Gek?

[Atlus Frog]

Gek, was there any "perfect bible" or strategy guides for Shiren 3 in Japan? It's rare that I want a guide, but a game like this with all its random dungeons and loot would probably have a cool guide.

Do US companies ever announce plans to translate Japanese games at Tokyo Game Show? I am hoping someone will step up to the plate.

I've contacted

SEGA(email, forums)
XSEED Games
Atlus (email, forums)
IGN (to contact Sega for me)
Gaijin Works (used to be Working Designs)

It really upsets me that this game I would play for many years is not seeing release in the US. Games like this are really rare. This game is certainly the top of the roguelike genre.

[jeffx]

I've contacted
Gaijin Works (used to be Working Designs)

I admire your dedication, but allow me this LOL moment.

[LordGek]

Grr, I gave a big reply to this question but it seems to have never actually posted.

Here are the auto web translated links to my two favorite Japanese Wiki like sites for the game:

http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fsiren3.otogirisou.com%2F&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=3&wb_submit=+%96%7C+%96%F3+

The above is a great site BUT, for some reason, often falls out of it's framed format, usually reloading a few times will whack it back into shape.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://pwp1.atcms.jp/siren3/index.php%3FFrontPage&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://pwp1.atcms.jp/siren3/index.php%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3Dvyv%26sa%3DG&usg=ALkJrhhImomNKEJq_hJH-ZvylaWBZdPNPQ

While this second one is a great site, the translator I'm using here is pretty weak. I prefer the Excite Translator as used in the first post but it consistently chokes and dies on this page.


Gek, was there any "perfect bible" or strategy guides for Shiren 3 in Japan? It's rare that I want a guide, but a game like this with all its random dungeons and loot would probably have a cool guide.

Do US companies ever announce plans to translate Japanese games at Tokyo Game Show? I am hoping someone will step up to the plate.

I've contacted

SEGA(email, forums)
XSEED Games
Atlus (email, forums)
IGN (to contact Sega for me)
Gaijin Works (used to be Working Designs)

It really upsets me that this game I would play for many years is not seeing release in the US. Games like this are really rare. This game is certainly the top of the roguelike genre.

[Baddbear]

I'd love to see this brought to NA. By anyone. It's just a 'must-have'.

[System_Error]

Gek, was there any "perfect bible" or strategy guides for Shiren 3 in Japan? It's rare that I want a guide, but a game like this with all its random dungeons and loot would probably have a cool guide.

Do US companies ever announce plans to translate Japanese games at Tokyo Game Show? I am hoping someone will step up to the plate.

I've contacted

SEGA(email, forums)
XSEED Games
Atlus (email, forums)
IGN (to contact Sega for me)
Gaijin Works (used to be Working Designs)

It really upsets me that this game I would play for many years is not seeing release in the US. Games like this are really rare. This game is certainly the top of the roguelike genre.

Sega announced Yakuza 2 at TGS

[Atlus Frog]

Sega announced Yakuza 2 at TGS
SEGA of America announced they would bring it to the West or are you saying Sega of Japan announced the game?

If Sega of America announces titles they will bring to the West there, just maybe we will hear something about Shiren3 for the US.

[System_Error]

Sega announced Yakuza 2 at TGS
SEGA of America announced they would bring it to the West or are you saying Sega of Japan announced the game?

If Sega of America announces titles they will bring to the West there, just maybe we will hear something about Shiren3 for the US.
Sega of America said Yakuza 2 was coming to the US

[Atlus Frog]

Sega announced Yakuza 2 at TGS
SEGA of America announced they would bring it to the West or are you saying Sega of Japan announced the game?

If Sega of America announces titles they will bring to the West there, just maybe we will hear something about Shiren3 for the US.
Sega of America said Yakuza 2 was coming to the US
Cool. I can't wait for TGS in October!

[Atlus Frog]

Will XSEED pick up Shiren? You should still consider this game Atlus!!!

http://www.therpgo.com/articles/exclusive-xseed-to-co-publish-3-more-games-with-marvelous-091708

Exclusive: Xseed to co-publish 3 more games with Marvelous
by Phil Clayton 09/17/08 at 12:46 am
In an exclusive interview with The RPGO, Xseed Games PR agent Jimmy Soga revealed that Xseed and Marvelous Entertainment USA will be co-publishing 3 as-yet-unannounced games in North America. One of the games, a Wii title, will be announced before the end of September, while the others, for DS and Wii, will be announced at TGS in October.

While we couldn't get Jimmy to reveal the names of the titles, there are still a number of obvious answers that are worth considering. Both Arc Rise Fantasia and Oboro Muramasa Youtouden will be on display at the Tokyo Games Show October 9 through October 12, so it's plausable that one of those will be announced for North America before the end of September, and the other later at TGS. As far as the DS title goes, Steal Princess seems to nicely fit Xseed's M.O.

However, this is all pure speculation. Nothing has yet been confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt, and anything could happen between then and now.

Our full interview with Xseed Games will be published within the next few days, so keep checking back with us. The interview mostly centers around Little King's Story, but other topics are discussed, including Shiren 3 and Xseed's co-publishing agreement with Marvelous Entertainment.

[jeffx]

^ while I won't believe it until it's posted on Siliconera (sorry, my only trusted source for news) this is indeed fascinating speculation for the moment. Let us know when the interview is published.

[Atlus Frog]

^ while I won't believe it until it's posted on Siliconera (sorry, my only trusted source for news) this is indeed fascinating speculation for the moment. Let us know when the interview is published.
Well the latest Nintendo Power says Marvelous is bringing Oboro to the US. They renamed it "Muramasa: The Demon Blade". This is awesome news.

Now realistically that only leaves one un-announced game for Tokyo Game Show and it will more than likely be Arc Rise Phantasia. I hope it is Shiren but I am guessing not. We will find out in a few weeks.

And the interview says this about Shiren...

The RPGO: And last, but certainly not least: bring over Shiren 3 if Sega doesn't please. Thanks.

Soga: We'll do our best :)

[jeffx]

fantastic stuff all-around. I don't care what the haters say, the Wii is still my favorite current console (with the 360 close behind thanks to its army of SHMUPs)

[Atlus Frog]

XSEED is bringing Arc Rise Phantasia and Oboro to the US.

Atlus, you still have Shiren 3 to consider!!! Still no word from Sega, but TGS2008 is not over yet!

[Atlus Frog]

Nothing on this game from Sega, XSEED, or Atlus.

I don't think it is happening which is really sad.

:(

[dragonlife29]

Yeah ^ =(

Wasn't it said that Shiren 2 wouldn't come out here because the first did so poorly in sales? If that's true, 3 has been put to death already...

[illogicaldreamr]

After watching this video, I can safely say that I would consider buying a Wii to play this game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISS30c_WVsI&NR=1

The music is awesome too!

[malroth]

I agree, this needs to come stateside at some point.

[Kakizaki]

Nothing on this game from Sega, XSEED, or Atlus.

I don't think it is happening which is really sad.

:(

I'm kind of late on this, but I am nearly 100% certain that in an article in Play magazine last year, Sega stated they would be bringing this over.

[cj iwakura]

I've contacted
Gaijin Works (used to be Working Designs)

I admire your dedication, but allow me this LOL moment.

You know, I would have agreed with you here, at least until today.

Gaijinworks have reappeared from the shadows. (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172140)

[Kakizaki]

^I've seen some of the posts that story is referring to on NeoGaf. I would wager that nothing will come out of this. Ireland is full of himself.

As much as I like the TF franchise, VI is just average imo and I would be curious to see if it came out this late in the PS2's U.S. lifespan as a budget title. I would also lol a little given what a dumbass Ireland was about Sega back around 97/98 and considering TF VI is a Sega title. Granted it is Sega of Japan, but still.

[cj iwakura]

Victor's had his ego issues, but there's no denying, the man had good taste in games.


Well, for the most part. I hear that Goemon game was trash.

[Atlus Frog]

Atlus, you are like Obi-Wan Kenobi...

You are are only Hope!!!

Bring Shiren to the US for Wii!!!

[Atlus Frog]

I read a recent interview with Vic Ireland and apparently his new company Gaijin Works will do localizations of RPGs also.

So besides Atlus there is some hope for Shiren 3 with Gaijin Works and possibly Ignition Entertainment. Ignition Entertainment is now responsible for Murasama: The Demon Blood since XSEED lost the rights.

So if you want Shiren3 localized please email the following companies...

http://www.gaijinworks.com/

http://www.ignitionent.com/

[Atlus Frog]

OMG!!! Thank you Atlus! Thank you Atlus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.atlus.com/shiren/

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq12/gregorybuczek/screenshot_01.jpg

[Macstorm]

One Sega game down, Shining Force Feather and 7th Dragon to go. :)

[jeffx]

M-M-M-MEGA

TONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNn

[Macstorm]

As awesome as this is, I have to ask... 2010? This was released in Japan a year ago and it will be another year before it hits here. Gotta be a Sega thing.

[Tatsuya]

Well, something to finally get me to get a wii, my wallet wants to kill me though.

[AdrianMorales]

Sweet! I’m glad this is being localized. I do have to ask though: what about Fuurai no Shiren DS 2 Sabaku no Majou (Mystery Dungeon Shiren The Wanderer 2)?

[LordGek]

If this is a joke it's very cruel!!

I so thought this would never happen.

We still might have a chance for Shiren DS 2 but this one came first and Shiren DS 2 had special bonus stuff based from your Shiren 3 progress, so, again, this one HAS to come first.

[dungeon_man]

I think it's odd that Atlus is suddenly announcing all of these 2010 Wii games. Perhaps the 2H09 announcements will be at E3?

Anyway, glad to hear Shiren is coming.

[Birdpoopman]

Hmm, I never actually played any of the Shiren games, so I guess this one is a good one to start with!

[Hero of legend]

WOW, that's awesome! :O

Funny that XSEED's bringing over Fragile, and they brought over RGC for DS, also by Bandai Namco.

Now Atlus is bringing over Shiren 3, and they also brought over Puyo Pop Fever DS by Sega.

Small things lead to bigger things!

Atlus, if you are able to add anything during localization, PLEASE add 16:9, that was a strange ommision from the original release!

But any sort of addition content in the game itslef would be awesome! New weapons? Dungeons? Is that a possibility?

And I'm sure you guys know this but... Please. Don't. Change. The. Box. Artwork.

Thanks! XD

Edit: And of course I now realize I made those requests on the 1st page. lol

[Decept]

One Sega game down, Shining Force Feather and 7th Dragon to go. :)

Please, anybody.

I think I am going to pick up that Shiren on the DS. If I had a Wii, I would buy this.

[Pibbman]

Never heard of this before, but like the others I'm still curious about fall/winter 09 releases.

It looks cool though!

[landlock]

hmmm... Random dungeons + chunsoft = A pass for me personally but good for the people that want it. :)

[Flagg]

Atlus please bring Shiren 2 DS to America too.

[getter77]

Guaranteed purchase and I strongly echo the folks wanting Shiren 2 DS. Bravo Atlus, Bravo.

[tomasdk]

I never thought this would be released outside of Japan. Well done. I just pray someone picks this up for a PAL release, someone has to!

[Atlus Frog]

Of all the companies(Sega, Atlus, Ignition, Xseed, Gaijin, Ubisoft) I asked to bring this over, Atlus was the best choice. I like how they do good translations and they tend to keep the Japanese art. They also have good pre-order bonuses so we may see a soundtrack cd and the Koppa Wiimote stand from Japan!

Shiren & Metroid M are the coolest announcements from E3 this year!

[LordGek]

As I probably said earlier in this thread (almost a year ago) this game held me wrapped for months, the primary game I use my Wii for still and NOW I can finally update my Firmware (Nintendo figured out how to beat the little hack my Freeloader Boot disc used to get around the region lock so I've had to avoid updating my Wii Firmware for the last year or so).

While it might be cute to actually see what was really going on in the game's very convoluted storyline, I'm REALLY looking forward to no longer having to play the game without my little item translation guide by my side (I think I experienced a lot of deaths simply because I FORGOT that I had just the item I needed in my pack already and was too lazy to constantly stop playing to re-look up a few items I was only 70% certain of their function).

[stonesmoke21]

Agreed.

[elf_boobs]

I might pick this up today if I get the time. Excitement!

[Pixel]

Shiren will be my first Atlus purchase since Persona 4. Currently waiting for Amazon to ship.

[El Davicho]

Shiren will be my first Atlus purchase since Persona 4. Currently waiting for Amazon to ship.

I have mine preordered with Amazon too, they moved the release to 'Ships in 1 to 2 months'

[LordGek]

It has at least made it to the EB warehouses as this proves:

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=76742

But who knows when other online retailers will get it or when it will actually show up at the local EB.

[El Davicho]

ok, I jumped the gun.

I emailed Amazon, and they replied that all PREORDERS are scheduled to ship tomorrow, and that NEW orders will take 1-2 months to fill.

[Pixel]

I should have mine Friday. :-)

[chuckins]

Does any one know if Amazon has started shipping yet? I preorder like to months ago and my order still is listed as "Not yet Shipped".

[El Davicho]

Does any one know if Amazon has started shipping yet? I preorder like to months ago and my order still is listed as "Not yet Shipped".

Mine does too...

I emailed them AGAIN today when the availability changed to 2/12, and they once again assured me that it is expected to ship today...we'll have to see. Mine isn't processing yet.