RK Vs ? Sequel?

[Azriel Crusnik]

Seeing as how the Devil summoner squeal conversation didn't go so well I thought I post a new one.
1.Is there a release date?
2.Is the original Protagonist till the main character (or is it a descendant)?
3.are there new demons?
4.what new things can we expect?
5.what do you hope to see on a new Devil summoner game that maybe previous didn't have?
6.would you be exited for its release? (if yes why?)(if not why not?)

P.S. please stay on topic ^_^

[Jalopy]

JP Release date of late October.

Same Raidou, same city, 14 years later. New locations include a village far into the countryside.

Twice as many demons as the original.

You're allowed two demons out at a time in combat.

Demon Negotiations return.

Camera is no longer static during battle.

[Azriel Crusnik]

^.....wow great info XD.

[Finalzidane-X]

About the last question, yes. I am excited.

Why? the return of the Dynamic Duo of Kozuma Kaneko and Shoji Meguro. As well the grat Devil Summoner Raidou experience on steroids. Specially using a Demon´s power to change shape in order to perform undercover tasks and running around like an idiot.

You can totally tell I´ll turn to a Geisha and pick on random people.


So far most translations lead to Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Abbadon King, as the Black Ninjas are Foot Soldiers, and the Red Ninja seems to be a High Ranking member of the Avadon King´s army.

[unknown]

14 years later? Holy crap

[Zachalmighty]

I wonder if they will give us this one?

[unknown]

If you guys announce it at Anime Expo, I demand that Raiho plushies and pens that look like those summoning tubes be given away. DEMAND

Though I'd settle for a Raiho keychain.

[Azriel Crusnik]

^ looking forward to goodies right? ^_^

[Lord-Ginji]

^^ hopefully you guys will announce it like this years showing of Persona 4 i was glad i was there and got my Trauma Center pen and T-shirt

but hopefully the budget might be a lil higher next year ^^; ....my blood in the TC pen dried up in a week and i ran out of ink in 2 weeks ~.~ i couldn't scare ppl walking in to my office anymore since i was walking around with a dry syringe with no ink

but thx again for the item

[Hossaria]

About the last question, yes. I am excited.

Why? the return of the Dynamic Duo of Kozuma Kaneko and Shoji Meguro. As well the grat Devil Summoner Raidou experience on steroids. Specially using a Demon´s power to change shape in order to perform undercover tasks and running around like an idiot.

You can totally tell I´ll turn to a Geisha and pick on random people.


So far most translations lead to Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Abbadon King, as the Black Ninjas are Foot Soldiers, and the Red Ninja seems to be a High Ranking member of the Avadon King´s army.
What the hell? And it's Kazuma Kaneko actually.

[DevilRy]

Yay! Kaneko is back in the saddle. I just can't bring myself to play the new Persona. :very_sad:

[mani]

Yay! Kaneko is back in the saddle. I just can't bring myself to play the new Persona. :very_sad:

totally agree:very_sad:

[kufufu]

^ ^

You don't want to play it just because Kaneko didn't work on it?

Lame.

[Hossaria]

^ ^

You don't want to play it just because Kaneko didn't work on it?

Lame.

Yeah, Shigenori Soejima isn't as good as Kaneko, but his designs work just fine.

[DevilRy]

^ ^

You don't want to play it just because Kaneko didn't work on it?

Lame.

Exactly, the games look LAME.

*prepares for flames*

In all seriousness, I just don't like the direction they've taken with the new Persona games. I've played 3 and it's just not my thing. Soejima has too much of a stereotypical anime style and it turns me off. If his stuff does it for you, great, more power to you. I'm not sold on it though and I'm not going to play a game that I think is ugly and been done a million times. There are of course other reasons that I don't have any desire to play them: the bad music, the high school sim aspects, the commu link system, the use of SMT demons as Persona, but that's for another thread. ;)

OT:
1- for Japan: comes out the 23rd.
2- still Raidou, 14 or so years later.
3- looks like 2x the demons as the first game, possibly more. I'm guessing they'll be reincarnated from previous games, hopefully Soul Hackers is one of them.
4- looks like you'll be able to use two nakama in battle. Plus they can help you negotiate with other demons to get them to join your party. You can pass abilities on through fusion at Goumaden - battle, investigation, and memory skills. Up to six "memory" skills can be applied to demons and all transfer over during fusion. This is about all I've gotten from briefly skimming over scans of game mags.
5- Personally, I hope they bring back the "loyalty"-system. You could really abuse that in the older DS titles to your advantage. Here's to hoping that you can get extras for importing save data from Choriki Heidan!
6- Of course I'm excited... but in all honestly I'll probably import like I always do. :)

[Hossaria]

^
Indeed the music is really bad, but I kinda like the main theme "Burn My Dread".

[Azriel Crusnik]

who is this -Kazuma Kaneko?

[Hossaria]

who is this -Kazuma Kaneko?
He's the character designer of overall Megaten series, most protagonists designed by him look like Brian Molko.

[DevilRy]

^
Indeed the music is really bad, but I kinda like the main theme "Burn My Dread".

For some reason that song reminded me of "Ring My Bell," by Anita Ward. :tongue:

[TRUPER7]

http://www.new-moon.tv/
is this the game you guys are talking about

[jeffx]

^ spectacular website is spectacular.
the sequel looks so much better than the original. Please Atlus USA!!! I know the original wasn't all that well received, but this one looks like a winner.

[Hossaria]

^
Indeed the music is really bad, but I kinda like the main theme "Burn My Dread".

For some reason that song reminded me of "Ring My Bell," by Anita Ward. :tongue:
Never heard of it, but do you really hate anime? Cause Kaneko's earlier works had a way more generical anime style than Noejima's.

[DevilRy]

Never heard of it, but do you really hate anime? Cause Kaneko's earlier works had a way more generical anime style than Noejima's.

It's an old gay disco song. :D

Anyway, I don't hate anime, just can't stand a lot of it these days. I'm not a huge fan of Kaneko's stuff pre-Persona though.

[Azriel Crusnik]

Never heard of it, but do you really hate anime? Cause Kaneko's earlier works had a way more generical anime style than Noejima's.

It's an old gay disco song. :D

Anyway, I don't hate anime, just can't stand a lot of it these days. I'm not a huge fan of Kaneko's stuff pre-Persona though.

Sadly there's a limit to happiness.

[piyochan]

The latest promotion video:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1218160_1124.html

[jeffx]

looks superb. I expect a March 2009 USA release.

[paireon]

looks superb. I expect a March 2009 USA release.

We can only hope... Personally, I hope they ship it with the Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne remake like they did in Japan!:D

[Greyhawk]

Never heard of it, but do you really hate anime? Cause Kaneko's earlier works had a way more generical anime style than Noejima's.

It's an old gay disco song. :D

Anyway, I don't hate anime, just can't stand a lot of it these days. I'm not a huge fan of Kaneko's stuff pre-Persona though.

In Kaneko's defense, most of his designs prior to Persona II were part of the "realistic school" that dominated manga and anime in the late 80's-early 90's. By the time he finished work on SMT II & SMT If..., you can see his style moving towards the "porcelian" look that made him so distinguished.

If you ever get the chance (or the finances), import the Kazuma Kaneko Works Vols I-III. Viewing each one in order gives a facinating look at his progression as an artist. It is also rather neat to see just how much (or little) of the core design for your favorite demons have changed over the years.

[Azriel Crusnik]

looks superb. I expect a March 2009 USA release.

We can only hope... Personally, I hope they ship it with the Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne remake like they did in Japan!:D

I seriously doubt this.

[Denninja]

:D I'm so getting that for my birthday on mar28 :D

[DevilRy]

In Kaneko's defense, most of his designs prior to Persona II were part of the "realistic school" that dominated manga and anime in the late 80's-early 90's. By the time he finished work on SMT II & SMT If..., you can see his style moving towards the "porcelian" look that made him so distinguished.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Kaneko-basher. :P He's probably like THE major talent that works on Megaten games and the ONLY reason I still play them. :seesaw:

If you ever get the chance (or the finances), import the Kazuma Kaneko Works Vols I-III. Viewing each one in order gives a facinating look at his progression as an artist. It is also rather neat to see just how much (or little) of the core design for your favorite demons have changed over the years.

There are a couple of websites (English and otherwise) that have scans from these books, as well as the "Pandaemonium" books he released prior to these in the early to mid 90s, so I know exactly what you're talking about. You can clearly see his designs get stylistically more precise, but I think a lot of his early stuff has this real "honest" quality to it that I really like. A lot of his demons are based on actual depictions of these creatures in old/ancient paintings, tapestries, etchings, etc. so it's not surprising that they haven't changed much design-wise.

/nerd

EDIT: vaguely OT:

The first Devil Summoner is a pretty rad, underrated game. I've only been able to play it via nefarious illicit means but it's definitely a shame it's so rare otherwise.